The "Portal Giveth" Edition

Brad Brownell and the Clemson basketball team welcome a new big man to Tiger Town.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Each time or Clipson Sports Talk with Lawton Swan.

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we'll get into some conversations from Tigertown. We heard from
K Club yesterday. Well, we got some wide receivers to

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get to here on the program. We still got Antonio
Williams on the docket as well. Whole lot of shaking
going on in the Upstate as we get ready for
where Clempson's spring game coming up on Saturday, Tiger baseball
heading across the country as they will take on Cal

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take it on the Bears out in California. And also
one of the other things I do want to talk
about this Clemson basketball team, which has been I don't
I don't even know what the this is probably not
the best word for it. What do you call it? Eviscerated?

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Is that what's strange about what's going on in Clemson
right now with the basketball team is it's not as
if this is a bad basketball program at this moment.
But it's also hard to gauge how good they're going

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to be this coming season, or even how good you
should expect them to be given all of the losses
that they've got on the roster. But they have gone
out and apparently they have landed a big man in

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Nick Davidson, rising senior out of Nevada six two hundred
and thirty eight pounds. Versatile would be I think the
apropo term for Davidson. You know, Clemson covets and really

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likes the big man who has the ability to shoot
from the perimeter, and that's exactly what Davidson will provide
the Tigers. Playing in the Mountain West. He averaged fifteen
point eight points and six point five rebounds per game
this past season, shooting nearly forty percent from beyond the art.

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He averaged twelve point two points per game a year ago,
and according to two four seven, when you talk about
prospects in the portal, Davidson was rated as the twenty
seventh best portal prospect and according to on three, they
have him rated as the number two overall center in

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the portal. So Clemson picking up a good talent there.
And I think one of the other aspects of this,
especially from the Clemson side of things, is when do
those names and numbers or start to balance out and

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become favorable for Clemson Because right now your back is
against the raw. Excuse me, your back is against the wall.
I mean, looking at the roster next season, the Tigers
have just seven of fifty roster spots currently taken. Now,

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I don't know what the timeline looks like for players
that you might can bring in who maybe decide that
they want to enroll in college early, Like, are there
some really good freshman fellows out there that well, I
guess technically they'd be juniors at this point, not yet
seniors in high school, rising seniors that maybe have the

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credits to graduate and want to go to college and
make a little money. I mean, that's something I'll throw
out there that might be a possibility. The other thing
is going to be certainly going out and bringing in

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guys who can play. I think the big problem that
you have more than anything is who are the sophomores
out there in the world basketball that want to come
in and sit and stay and and and be around
the program for a while, Because that's just not the
norm at this point. And minus that, it's gonna take

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you a while to get continuity on this roster because
you're kind of running yourself into a situation where it's
last in, first out. The last players on the roster
are the first ones to leave the program, and that's
not a good way to try to build a roster
for consistency over the years. I mean, you take a

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look at it right now. The freshman Trent Steinauer, Zach Foster,
and Chase Thompson, who was recently named the Player of
the Year in Minnesota by the way the red shirt
freshman Dallas Thomas and red shirt freshman Ace Buckner. Those
five players, again, you can't project any of them out

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for the long haul at clem in any way. But
they're not juniors, assuming they stick around until the twenty
twenty seven to twenty twenty eight season. And when you
think about how long that seems from right now, I
mean that is a while. And again there's no guarantee
that those guys are gonna that any of the true

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freshmen Thompson, Foster, Steinau are even gonna play, so they
could be freshman again, it wouldn't be juniors until twenty
twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, assuming that they all stick around.
It's really just not a great spot to be in.
And how quickly I think Clemson brings in the next

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three pieces, I think you've got to bring in at
least three more guys that can play legitimately play through
the portal. Then you can start to maybe backfill those
final few spots on the roster. But until this thing

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gets out to like ten out of the fifteen scholarship
spots taken, I don't even know how you how you
get excited about the future Like if Brad Brown now
had a microphone set in front of him right now,
and you said, how do you feel about the program?

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And he said, oh man, we're really excited about this
coming season. I would say, how what? What is it
about it? The fact that it's coming, the fact that
next year will be here eventually. I mean that to
me is the biggest issue that you're dealing with. There

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is no real continuity to the roster to give fans
even excitement. If the imagine if the football roster looked
like this, imagine that what if? So? What are there
seven out of fifteen so about half? Could you imagine

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if the football roster had forty some of my players
on it right now, like forty three players, you guys
would go crazy. You say, Swanny, how in the world
are we supposed to expect anything from this group next
year when we've only got half of the roster piece together? Now,

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can this team make a run to the NCAA tournament?
You can't tell me that. Can this team make a
run back to the Elite eight? You have no idea.
There aren't enough pieces. This is this is like buying
a puzzle at the yard sale. Have you figured the
puzzle out. Yet, No, we don't have nearly all the pieces.

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So again, how quickly they start to get some of
these pieces in place? I think are a big deal.
A zero three, four five, zero zero eighty six text line,
phone line. All right. NCAA Tournament Action gets back out
at Saturday, six O nine pm on CBS. It's top
seed in Florida and top seeded Auburn. Auburn. It's the

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number one overall seed in the tournament. All number one's remaining,
by the way, So Florida and Auburn now the SEC
facing off on CBS six O nine pm Saturday. Florida
enters the game thirty four and four. Auburn enters the
contest at thirty two and five. Looking back at the

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season for these two teams, Florida beat Auburn ninety to
eighty one at Auburn earlier this year. I believe that
was the lone time that those two teams faced off.

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They didn't battle in the SEC tournament. But Auburn had
come into the NCAA Tournament on a bit of a skid.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
They lost three out of their final four games, falling
to Texas A and M. More on the Aggies in
a minute, falling to Alabama and falling to Tennessee in
the final game of the regular season or in the
final game for them in the in the SEC tournament.

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They lost to Alabama in the final game in the
regular season. But now having watched those two teams play,
I mean, I think this is going to be an
absolute slugfest between two SEC schools for the right to
play in the National Championship. Conversely, Houston and Duke facing

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off on the other side. That game set to get
going at eight forty nine pm on CBS on Saturday.
Duke is a team that I picked to win the tournament.
Duke also beat Auburn earlier this year eighty four to
seventy eight. You saw Duke absolutely smoke Alabama, and I

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think that there was a narrative about the ACC that
probably was a bit unfair for the league, even though
Clemson in Louisville had poor performances in the NCAA Tournament,
I think that the ACC was undervalued going into the
NCUBLEA Tournament. And I think, if anything, we're now seeing,

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especially with the way Duke plays, that the Blue Devels
are a very, very talented team. And probably the fact
that Clemson is one of three teams that beat them
this year probably gives you an idea about how good
the Tigers are. The only other losses for Duke came
to then number one Kansas in the sixth game of

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the year and number nineteen Kentucky in the third game
of the year. Duke's been on a tremendous run outside
of that lost to Clemson, and they do not look
like they're slowing down at all. But one of the

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other things about this it bothers me. We we come
out of the gate with the NCAA tournament like gangbusters.
That Thursday two weeks ago was unbelievable, Thursday Friday was amazing,
and then we pretty quickly whittle it down the Sweet
sixteen and that, you know, those games are really good.

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That weekend, the old Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you guys
all juiced up, and then man to make us wait
till Saturday just feels like it feels like a gut punch.
I kind of wish we were playing those two games
tonight on Thursday night and then have Saturday night be
the championship. Really, who who amongst us wants to wait

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up on Monday night for that national title game. Come on,
let's admit it, none of you. At some point we
got to start embracing the fan and stop embracing what
we think the metrics are going to be. Until we
play a championship like the Super Bowl on a Saturday,
like the NCAA tournament on a Saturday, we really won't
know what those numbers are going to look like. It's

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all just projected. Let's book one on a Saturday and
see and if it overperforms the Monday night game for
the entirety or the Sunday night game in the Super Bowl.
Since let's go with it, Like, how much could you
possibly lose over the long haul if you were wrong?

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Not much? But what if you're right, you'd make more money.
You would make more money. So I'm all about that,
all right? Final thing? I said it earlier this week,
I'll stand by it. What if Texas am fin win something.
They were a game away from winning the national title

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in baseball year ago and their coach left. Buzz Williams
has taken the job at Maryland. Buzz Williams arrived at
Maryland and pledged loyalty and stability but I saw a
TikTok on Buzz Williams, and what they talked about was,

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and I didn't realize this, but Buzz Williams has had
his stints at as a head coach at major universities,
essentially running it about every six years, and it's kind
of his plan. He coached at Marquette from eight to

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twenty fourteen and grew that program. He parlayed that into
taking one of the bottom teams in the AEC at
Virginia Tech. He coached there for five years, built that
program up to kind of a mid tier ACC school,
and passed it off. Goes to Texas Tech in twenty nineteen,

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builds the aggies up, makes him a better program, and
you know by the time you get out of there.
The only one I would say he really missed on
was he didn't leave Marquette early enough. He should have
left Marquette probably after they made an Elite eight run
back in twenty twelve twenty thirteen. Instead he hung around

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another year. They finished sixth You're starting to be compared
not to the previous guy, but to what you've already done.
And he packed it up and went to Virginia Tech
in his third year, he got Virginia Tech to the
NCAA tournament and they were there. In his fourth and
fifth year, he got him to the sweet sixteen. What
do he do? Pack his backs for? AE and M

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misses a tournament the first two years, gets to the
niit finishes as the runner up. Continuing to build gets
to the round sixty four. Hissed around the thirty two
twice at A and M packing it up head to Maryland,
and the TikTok that I saw was a guy that
knows Buzz Williams and said, this is kind of his mindset.

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Build the program up. He'd loved to win a national title.
Don't get me wrong on that, But build a program
up as high as you can, and then be cautious
and conscientious of when the team might be compared to yourself. Right,
like when you're being compared to the other guy and

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you're doing better than the other guy did, Hey, everybody's excited.
But the second that you fall off of the mark
that you've created, then nobody wants to remember that the
other guy was doing pretty poorly before you got there.

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They're just gonna say, hey, what happened to our team
being one of the top programs in the country. Why
aren't we back in the NCUBA tournament. People are fickle
and forget how far you brought them. And so now
he'll head to Maryland to take over a Maryland Terrapins

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basketball program that was just in the NCUBLEA tournament. Of course,
Maryland is one of those programs that I love to
focus on and talk about because of their long standard
tradition in the ACC and a lot of people, a

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lot of people can't stand that. I give Maryland a
whole lot of combo here on the program, but I've
always kind of loved to hate Maryland. And this is
a Maryland team that went to the Sweet sixteen this
year and got taken out of the tournament by Florida
eighty seven to seventy one. They beat Grand Canyon in

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the opening round. They got the face off of Colorado
State in round two as the Colorado State Rams the
twelve seed, had advanced. They slipped by Colorado State on
a little traveling violation. My buddies like to say, I
like to say that it was not a travel either way. Though,

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Maryland Therapids get a really good head coach in buzz Williams,
and I might argue that this is the best landing
spot he's ever had in terms of where the team
is at the moment he takes it over. If he
can do what he's done at other programs to elevate
this Maryland program, they'll have a legitimate chance to make

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a run to the final four. You can almost bank
on that. All right, quick break, we'll come back with
more here on a Thursday afternoon. Stay with US Clemson Sports.
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Coming up on Saturday, it will be Clemson spring game,
not going to be televised, which obviously is a is
a weird one. There will be alcohol sales. We've mentioned
that here on the program earlier in the week. A
lot of people thought that was an April Fools joke.

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Lots open for tail getting at eight am. Tiger Walk
will take place at eleven thirty am. That's also when
the gates will open to the stadium. Kick off for
Clemson Spring game set for one o'clock. They will have
metal detectors in effect and they will have a clear

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bag policy for the spring game. You can listen to
the game on the Clemson Athletic Network or on Clemson
Tigers dot com. They've also got events for the kids
like the be a Tiger Field Day. Tiger Field Day

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brought to you by BASF and Seneca. That's a free
youth clinic from nine to noon. It'll take place on
the Little John Long and it's free and open. Their
children grades kindergarten through sixth Clemson student athletes participate in
leading event activities. Parents are encouraged to attend with their children.

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BASF and Seneca provides a kid friendly, STEM focused interactive
activity station, and the Clipson University College of Science will
provide an interactive e education station where kids can fling
balls with the Physics Department, explore Rubik's cubes and math
games with the Department of Math and Statistical Sciences, investigate

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native and exotic bird, reptile, amphibians, and mammimal species with
the Department of Biological Sciences. So all of that will
take place just before Clempson Spring Game. Also, from eight
am to one pm, Clemson'll host their surplus sale, which
I know a lot of people like jersey, shoes, polos,

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jacket shorts, pants, bags, and more. I don't know if
any of that stuffs game war, and I've never been.
That would be the thing I think most people, most
people would really gravitate towards is game worn gear. I

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know in the past they've had some helmets things like that.
Maybe that would be maybe that would be in the
quote exclusive gear categories over there for Clempson Spring Game.
Now if you want to know what I want to
know or what I want to see out of the

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spring game, couple of key things here. First and foremost,
I want to see how Christopher Vezina plays and looks.
I don't need to see Kate Club Mac throw a pass.
I don't. You can have Kate Club to be the
coach of one of the teams, for all I care.

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I want to see what Christopher Vezina looks like. I'm
also intrigued to know what some of these young backup
running backs look like. Davidson is the Mummy, you know,
how are things developing and progressing there? Adam Randall, how's
he looked. I'm interested to see Tristan Smith the wide

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out simply because Clemson's had a lot of really good pieces,
or had a lot of really good pieces in the
white out room a year ago. And you go out
and you get a kid who I think kind of
gives you some vibes around what you have with the
bigger rangier wide receivers, more so like t Higgins than

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Mike Williams, but that you know, that that type of
player that you feel like you know, I hope, I'm
hoping he'll be the type of player that you feel
like you could put a ball up, put it somewhere
where really he can only get his hands on it
and have him come down with it. Then defensively, you know,

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I think when you start to separate this is the
hard part of these games, When you start to separate
your talent, you start to diminish the impact that any
one player can have because perhaps the guy that would
be beside him impacting the game positively on Saturday is
you know, is on the other sideline right not not

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right there, And so it's very tough to I think
look at those aspects of a team, the defensive front,
the cornerbacks, and go, yeah, you got a good evaluation
off of it, because everything split, and I think that

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impacts the defense more than the offense outside of the
offensive line, honestly, because like play makers by nature are
kind of one on one deals, and certainly having a
better offensive line in front of you might set things
up a little bit differently for the running back. But

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that running back is kind of a solo act. And
you could probably make the argument about corners in that
same respect. But that defensive line, if it's not as
disruptive because it's a spring game and you got the
roster spread out, then perhaps those guys in the secondary

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don't look as good because the wide receivers have a
lot more time to run routes. And so I think
the split rosters a little bit detrimental to the defense.
And I think for Clemson fans that want to see
Tom Allen's defense, I think it's tough to really get
a good evaluation of that from what you get on

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Saturday and Death Valley, from what you will get on
Saturday and Death Valley. All Right, quick break, we'll come
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Stay with us. Rolling along on a Thursday, Lord and Swan,
hanging out with you. I was eating some grapes during

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the break and I started thinking about this. This may
be terrible. I don't wash my grapes or fruit. Occasionally
I'll wash an apple. Am I I mean, is this

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am I on some level of strange that you can't
get on, Like, is that too much? Is it is
this saying? Is this grape chemically coded? And I'm going down.
Is that what's happening here? Should I go ahead and
draw up the old will? I mean, I I've been
eating grapes for years without washing them. I'm feeling pretty good,

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you know what I think. I think here's the thing.
I assume. And if you go to like a wedding
or somewhere where there's grapes, like if you're being fed
in your chair while someone's fanning you and you're eating grapes,
I'm assuming those grapes have been washed. I've never thought

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about that, but I don't. I don't think about it
because I don't wash them myself. Trying to think what
fruits other than the occasional apple I do wash. I
mean most most fruits that I eat you don't eat
the outside. But I I don't wash strawberries. Now it's

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not to say that my wife doesn't, for my kids
or whatever. I have no idea what they're washing fruit
habits are. I just I go for it. Let me
let me throw this in the Google machine. I gotta know.
These are red dragon grapes. They are phenomenal. By the way,

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Should I wash wash my grapes? I don't know. If
I'm gonna like the results here people, We're gonna we're
gonna take these answers live right here on the air. Yes,
you should wash grapes before eating them to move potential dirt, bacteria,

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and pesticide residues.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Holy crap, I am freaking out.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Especially since they're on the quote Dirty dozen list.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Being dumb you know how to get mad.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I call you a dummy.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
As with any produce, even those with inedible skins, washing
grapes before eating isn't an option. It's a mandate. Oh okay,

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here we go. Hold on, Is it okay to eat
unwashed grapes? All right, we've got we We might have
a potential come from behind wind right here? Are we clear? Yes? Sir?

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Are we clear?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Crystal?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
While you might be tempted to skip the wash, it's
generally recommended to wash the grapes. I can feel the
condemn it its and pesticides. Again, there's that mention of
the Dirty dozen. No, what is okay? Please? Someone text

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the program, just one, just one of you amongst us here,
please hit me up. I mean I'm doing I'm doing fine,
Like I'm hanging in there. I'm hanging in there just

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because grapes. Just because grapes are on the Dirty Dozen,
I feel fine. I don't wash my grapes. I must.
I'm impervious. I'm gonna live for a thousand years. I've
been eating the Dirty Dozen without washing them for forty

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eight years. I just I'm all I'm saying is, listen,
if you're out there driving around in your car today
and you've got a bag of grapes beside you, and
you didn't wash them. According to reports, they're on the

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Dirty dozen list, But but don't worry about it. I
don't wash my grapes either, and I'm doing just fine.
I think I'll enjoy one during this segment. A zero
three four five zero zero eighty six. Again, these are
Timpson Red Dragon grapes spectacular. I had no idea that

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you had to wash grapes like it was a mandate.
I thought it was like optional. They should put that
on the box. Does it say it on the box
here Tasty treats. I don't see wash on the box anywhere.
You'd think it'd come with instructions. Some of us just

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think fruits are healthy for you, not covered in microbes
and pesticide residues. But you'll learn something new every day
here on the show That Shakes the south Land. So
that's the way it goes. AO three four five zero
zero eighty six. Al right, coming up around the band.
Something I have not seen in the world of sports before.

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We've seen baseball games where it's a no hitter, but
guys have gotten on base, etc. Things like that, right,
but I've never seen a game end the way the
matchup between Boston College in North Carolina into this weekend,
because the celebration was immense for a no hitter. It

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was immense, But pump the brakes. Pump the brakes because
it turns out, due to a technicality, it wasn't again.
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for more of the show The Shakes the south Land
final segment of Our Number one. On a Thursday afternoon,
Clemson sports sal Lot and swanp with you. All Right,
So get this. I know Clemson's got a big baseball
series this weekend out in California. But this past weekend,
obviously they went over the little short hop over to

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Atlanta to take on the Yellow Jackets, and Timbray's coming
up in Our Number two. Timberray tweeted out that Georgia
Tech outscored Clemson twenty eight to fifteen over the weekend,
but the Tigers won the series two games to one.
He said it reminded him of the nineteen sixty World

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Series when the Yankees outscored the Pirates get this, fifty
five to twenty seven, but lost the World Series four
games to three. I mean it happens, right, you have
a couple of blowouts and then you have four tight

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ball games or whatever. But man to dominate, and I
do mean dominate a series like that, fifty five to
twenty seven the World Series, no doubt, not just like
a weekend set. Obviously, you couldn't play Yankees and pirates

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back in the day in Major League baseball, other than
being in the postseason, that is a good change major
League Baseball has. Maybe we talked about major League Baseball
yesterday in the Torpedo Bats, I would say that's been
a good change. The ability to play games against non
league teams during the regular season. You got a chance

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to have like the little Subway Series every once in
a while between the Yankees and the Mets. I think
it kind of keeps things fresh to have some new
meat on the proverbial bone in the land of professional baseball.
On the college baseball front too, though, talking about strange things.

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In the North Carolina Boston College series this weekend, North
Carolina's pitchers dealing absolutely dealan and he's on the verge
of a no no a little no hitter action, if

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you will. Aiden Hall, a senior for the Tar Heels,
has a no hitter in the ninth inning, trying to
put it away, and the Boston College batter hits at
a little no ubber up the line hits a runner

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who was on first base, and because of that the
runner is ruled out. But in the midst of North
Carolina celebrating the no hitter. It turns out that because

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the ball made contact with the player, it's not considered
a no hitter because that guy that was on base
was called out by the play and hit by the

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pitch or hit by the ball, so that actually is
scored as a hit and then out, and so he
didn't get the no hitter. How do you handle that?
I mean, as a player and team, I think we're
celebrating like you had the no hitter. I think I

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think it's gotta be the way you handle it. Now,
Armando Galarraga's near perfect game that he had and I'll
be honest, probably deserves to be a perfect game. They
probably should go back and fix that one. Jim Joyce
just missed the call. And while there's a lot of

(39:28):
criticism of Jim Joyce, in fairness to Joyce after the
game and there was no replay back then after the game,
he was, you know, he was saddened by it and
apologized for it and admitted that he had gotten the
call wrong. They incorrectly ruled that Jason Donald was safe

(39:54):
and from that moment forward, outside of you know, other
mistakes that he had in his time, I'm as an umpire,
that was the one that stood out for most people
because of you know, that's an era of television where
when you were watching ESPN or whatever, ESPN two would say, oh,
we're going to take you out to this game, and

(40:15):
you start following it a little bit, and then you
get into that eighth inning, that ninth inning, and here's
a guy getting a chance or about to have a
perfect game, and Jim Joyce gets the call wrong. If
you forgot what that play sounded like or what that

(40:36):
moment was like, I mean heartbreaking, so much so that
Fox Sports put together a show about it, or a
game about it, or not a game about it. Yeah,

(40:57):
a show about it called a perfect Game. Here's what
it sounded like. And back in May of twenty twenty,
Armando Galarraga says he wants wanted MLB to overturn this
play and officially recognize his perfect game, which would have
been just the twenty first I think at that time

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would have been just the twenty first perfect game in
Major League Baseball history. I'll double check that, but here
it is. Here's the call.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Round ball, right side Cabrera. We'll cut it off. Coll
the LGA turns, he's out there, he's safe, He is safe,
he is safe at first thing, and here comes Jim Latmian.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Completely missed it. I mean it was unbelievable, absolutely blew
the call. And so currently in the history of Major
League Baseball just twenty four of those. But when you
include Armando Galarraga, which you should, there have been twenty
five in Major League Baseball. You know what. I was thinking,

(42:14):
We had Timbarey, but I believe he is unavailable today
because he's working this week on the golf tournament. So
more of me when we return right here on the
show that Shakes the South Lane.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Each time for Clipson Sports Talk with Luwton Swan, call
me Swanny.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
It is our number two. That's drivetime writer on the
show that Shakes the south Land, Clemson's Sports Salt Long
and the Swine hanging out with you. William qualkin Bush
typically joined us on Mondays, saw his post on social media,
and he confirmed to us yesterday that he is going
to going to I said to Houston, I got basketball

(43:27):
on the mine, that he is going to cal for
the Clemson baseball game. I think the other reason I
may have said Houston is because that was where his
flight stopped. That was his first layover as he was
making his way, according to his social media account. So,
William qualkin Bush going to be on the call with

(43:50):
the Clemson Tiger series against the cow Bears in that
game tomorrow nine pm, start time nine pm. So we
talked about the Clemson Tiger football team, obviously with the
spring game coming up this weekend. But you know, there's

(44:13):
a lot of buzz right now. I don't know if
y'all have noticed all the buzz around Clemson, just feeling
like with the returning the amount of returning talent that
they have, that these guys are truly one of the

(44:39):
top teams that have a chance to be one of
the top teams in the country this coming season. And
you know, cade Klubnick, you think about his play a
year ago versus two years ago, and it's night and day.

(45:01):
The biggest problem that I think you have is kind
of what I was saying about buzz Williams earlier, right
you starting to get compared to your new self, and
even with potentially a similar amount of talent around him

(45:24):
and maybe even a better wide receiving room, is it
reasonable to expect more from Clubnick this season? I think
that's a hard thing to say yes to. Now, he

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was not perfect. He was not Trevor Lawrence freshman season,
just in the sense of maybe the type of plays
that he made, especially late in the year, that's when
Trevor really took off. But compare k Klubnick's stats to

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Trevor Lawrence or maybe even Deshaun Watson. I think those
are the two fair comparables, and you know, his numbers
stack up really well, and so to expect another year

(46:41):
at an extremely high level is something that I think
because of the way Deshaun Watson played in college and
because of the way Trevor Lawrence played in college, I
think a lot of us start to feel like you
should be able to maybe get another good season out

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of out of Kate Clubnick now ca this past season
was three h eight of four eighty six. That's a
sixty three point four percent completion percentage. Sixty three point
four percent. You compare that to Deshaun Watson. He he

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outperformed him every year. Deshaun Watson's worst completion percentage was
sixty seven percent his final season his junior year sixty
seven point eight. As a sophomore sixty seven point nine
as a freshman. So Watson's completion percentage far superior to

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Kate Clubneck and now I have a theory on it.
I'll get back to that in a minute. Trevor Lawrence
similarly nearly seventy percent completion percentage for Lawrence his final year,
sixty nine point two. Prior to that, sixty five point
eight and sixty five point two his freshman season with

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Clemson won the national title. How they was passing yard
stack up thirty six thirty nine for ki clubnet thirty
six thirty nine would only top Deshaun Watson's freshman season,
where he played eight games. Remember he was the backup.

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He threw for fourteen hundred and sixty six that year.
Watson threw for forty one hundred as a sophomore forty
five ninety three nearly forty six hundred is a junior,
so Cage's numbers dwarf by comparison to those numbers from Watson.
His numbers are similar, though to Trevor's. Trevor, playing fifteen

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games as a freshman, threw for thirty two hundred and
eighty yards. Kate Clubteck outperformed freshman Kate Struggle bus to
speak here, Kate Clubnick's junior season outperformed Trevor Lawrence as
a freshman. Lawrence as a sophomore through for three thousand,
six hundred and sixty five yards, just about thirty more

(49:24):
yards than Trevor last season and then his final year.
It was a ten game season, you might recall, so
kind of unfair to compare though, thirty one hundred and
fifty three and ten games. So Lawrence's numbers we're gonna
be huge. If you go out and extrap l eight
a fifteen game season, he might be at like forty

(49:45):
five hundred, like right at Toshaan Watson's Clemson leading all
time mark. But either way, from that sense, he's kind
of in the ballgame with with Trevor. Thirty six touchdowns
to six interceptions a year ago for club Nick, thirty

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and four for Trevor when he won the title, thirty
six and eight when he played for the championship. Similar
numbers there. As a matter of fact, you might could argue,
statistically speaking, Caid clubbicks junior season is most similar to
Trevor Lawrence's sophomore year, when he went fourteen to one
and lost in the National Championship to LSU. Watson's interceptions

(50:34):
ballooned his final two years thirty five and thirteen, forty
one and seventeen. Watson threw thirty picks his final two
seasons at Clemson. That's fifteen a year. Cade's much safer
with the ball in that respect. Now, the other side
of it that you don't factor in at all here

(50:54):
is Watson's ability to rush the ball, Trevor Lawrence's ability
to rush the ball, and at this point, not that
Caid hasn't. We saw it on full display against Pitt
where he broke into the open field and made a
huge run. But I don't think there was any doubt

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that Watson and Lawrence were more adept rushing the ball
than Kate Clubnick has been during his first three seasons,
although last year seven touchdowns for four hundred and sixty
three yards rushing on one hundred and nineteen attempts for Kate.
So again I said earlier, I don't really need to
see anything from him in the spring game. I don't

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really need.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
To know.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Come away from the game, boy, man, I'm glad Kate
looked good, or man, Kate looked terrible. Cabo kaid As
Dabos when you would call him, I don't really care
about that. I really don't. My biggest thing with Kate
Clubnick is how do you judge him If you're comparing
him to himself a year ago? Can he outperform that?

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And that, I think is the big question, because if
he can, I think we all can safely admit this
is going to be a special year for Clemson. But
if if the top of the mark was his play
in twenty in twenty twenty four, if that was the
best you're ever going to get from k Clebnick, then

(52:29):
I think it's extremely difficult to see Clemson getting further
than they did a year ago, unless, of course, like
look here, with the college football playoffs set up, I mean,
that's that is the one aspect that's still an advantage
for teams lighting the Tigers because they'll have a chance

(52:52):
to win the ACC And if you're you win the
ACC and you're one of the top four conference champs
in terms of rating, you're gonna get that buy in
the playoff. And so they could technically get further in
the playoff than they did a year ago without technically

(53:14):
doing any more. If you follow that logic, but they
got a favorable schedule this year. We haven't talked much
about it, obviously, we're still way off from football season.
You know, a big opening game against LSU is the
one that you got to keep your eyeballs on. But

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what you know is win, loser draw. Having that game
a Clemson is certainly important. But if you win that,
matchups against Troy at Georgia Tech, which will be tougher
than usual, versus Syracuse at North Carolina at Boston College
at home, against SMU at home against Duke home, against

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Florida State at Louisville, a team to beat you a
year ago at home against Furman, then at South Carolina.
Like the thing that's gotta bother South Carolina fans even
if they were to win back to back games against Clemson.
But the Tigers run the table in the ACC and

(54:22):
do all that, CLYMPS is still gonna get in the playoff.
Like that's that's the thing. Like I'm sure Game Cocks,
I know you're out there. You guys hang out with
us and have a good time talking college football. You
know how much we appreciate you, So you.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Could continue to peek over the fence at the best
radio showing the nation.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
That has to be the single most frustrating thing of
all as a rival, Like, try to imagine Clympson fans,
just for a moment, try to imagine a scenario where
you beat South Carolina in the final game of the
season two years in a row, but they made the

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College Football Playoff and you didn't again. Last year, South
Carolina was close. I have no idea what they'll look
like this year. I haven't looked close enough at their roster.
I'm not even sure I know Leonora Sellers and what

(55:22):
I expect from him. But defensively, was the team look like?
You know, as a matter of fact, I'm at this
point I'm not very comfortable giving me a prediction on Carolina.
I know what Clempson has got, and I feel pretty
good in the sense of kind of knowing what most
of these other schools on Clemson schedule have on their roster.

(55:45):
But in this era where we've got this twelve team playoff,
the frequency in which, given the way it's currently set up,
that Clemson will be in the playoff versus South Carolina,
if it does, it feels like night and day, And
can you imagine if the shoe were on the other

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foot and then you were winning, but yet they were
still the team that goes to the playoffs. How tired
would that be for the game Cocks? I know South
Carolina fans, I know you would take if I said, hey, guys, again,
this is a group that, up until that five game

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winning streak back in the mid to late twenty tens,
had never beaten Clemson twice in my lifetime in a row.
But if I said, hey, guys, you're gonna beat Clemson
for the next five years, but they're gonna get in
the Coege Football Playoff every one of them, and you're
not like fliplop that Tiger fans like, what if? What

(56:51):
if it was Clemson? You're gonna beat South Carolina five
consecutive seasons, but you're gonna be their loan loss each
of those years and you're not getting in the playoffs,
And they are like, that's a whoa, that's a what.

(57:13):
And yet the game Cocks could be in position for
something similar to that happening for a second consecutive year
this season if they were to be Clemson in late November.
Lots of interest right now though around the world of
college football with spring games and one of those things

(57:37):
or one of those individuals who had something to say
about it. Again, we had Deon Sanders and fran Brown
were fine playing a spring game against each other, but
the NCAA said that's not going to happen. Well, Mike Gundhy,

(57:59):
who's never been shy for words, hung that for me.
I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not I'm not a kid.
Gundy was asked about the NCAA denying Colorado and Stanford
a chance to play against each other in the you know,

(58:22):
spring little preseason matchup. Here's Gundhy being asked about that
earlier this week.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
This out of the way, because I don't think you
thought it would come together this year. But the NCAA
said no to Dion and Syracuse on their deal. But
the coaches have said, we're gonna look at this and
next year that may be part of this. So you're
feeling on the cat.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I mean, I think we should. I mentioned it the
other day. I just thought of the deal with OU.
I think it's a good deal. I would like to
do that. I'd like to practice against him.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
You know, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I'm not gonna waste time on who's gonna determine what
the rules already wore, because essentially there's not really enough
of them to follow.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
And I'm not even.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Sure why they how they have grounds to say you
can't do it. Somebody just goes and does it. What
do you What are they gonna do to them?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
That's a great point from Mike Gundy. If somebody does it,
what's the NCAA gonna do? And I think the bigger,
the more significant like this is how we stand up
for this and and die on this hill if you
want these kind of games, is legitimately asking why does

(59:39):
pretty much, I guess every other sport in college athletics
have something like that. You know, why is it that
baseball can have a scrimmage? Why is it that basketball
can have a scrimmage? Why is it in soccer and
tennis and tiddleywinks or whatever? Why is it that those
sports can have a scrimmage but football can't. There's no

(01:00:07):
logic to it. And one of the things one of
the things that Fran Brown and Dion Sanders kind of
said about playing was that they were gonna do some
stuff where the two teams get together, they do some
study hall work, like they were going to try to

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make it more than just the single the single game experience.
They wanted to kind of showcase the good Now I
said it either earlier this week or late last week.
I can't remember, but I you know, I do think. Okay,

(01:00:48):
So if you played at Colorado, then what happens to
the for the Syracuse fans? Are they going to get
their own spring game against another team? Like that's the
biggest problem I see. I don't know that fan bases
across the country are gonna just want to openly say, yeah,
you know what, I don't really want the opportunity to
watch my team play at home. I'm okay with us

(01:01:13):
just playing a single spring game at Syracuse or or
at Colorado or wherever. Right, I think most fans want
that experience for themselves, which is why I brought up, well,
maybe you get some kind of schedule where there are
two spring games when you play at home, when you

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play on the road, And that's everybody across the board. Clemson,
you're gonna play a home spring game against Furman, and
you're gonna travel and play a spring game at Old
Miss and in some respects, I'd be okay with it
because maybe it would open up some opportunities to go
to some venues, and again, you wouldn't be playing a

(01:01:58):
quote real game, but go to some venues against some
of those teams that maybe you've never had a chance
to go. Witness the Tigers playing. Get a little loose
with your scheduling, if you will. All right, quick break,
keep it a lot right here on the show that
shakes the Southway when we come back. It was a

(01:02:19):
big night in the NBA for one former Tiger. I'll
tell you about it right after this back at It
hour number two Clemson Sports Talk. So, a couple of
nights ago in the NBA, Nicole Jokic and the Denver
Nuggets got beat by the Timberwolves in overtime thirty nine.

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Jokic scored sixty one in the game on eighteen to
twenty nine shooting. I mean, the dude is he is incredible,
And the thing is he's just playing in his own pace,
kind of slow playing his hand. Triple double, ten rebounds,
ten assists, sixty one points. But Hunter Tyson, former Clemson Tiger,

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is on that team and PJ. Hall also is on
the Nuggets and Hall kind of goes up and down
to the G League or whatever, but hunter Tyson's kind
of slowly carving himself out some opportunities there with the Nuggets.
They got beat one thirteen to one oh six last night,

(01:03:32):
which is unfortunate for sure, but hunter Tyson got the start,
played thirty minutes, was seven of twenty from the floor,
twenty shots for hunter Tyson, scoring eighteen in the ballgame,

(01:03:54):
three of nine from beyond the arc, and look, Yokic
didn't play. But for hunter Tyson to have that kind
of performance in the NBA, I know it's a loss,
and I know it doesn't get talked about, but dude,
you have to feel really good for him. And what

(01:04:16):
I like about it is the Nuggets put out a
graphic a few weeks ago with PJ. Hall and hunter
Tyson featured in it, along with Jokich and Russell Westbrook,
who I listen. I can have a take on Russell
Westbrook if you want to hear it. This is not
a good one. But their head coach Michael Malone said quote,

(01:04:37):
we don't have selfish guys. We don't have me guys.
We have we guys. Know I that I kind of
think Westbrook's a me guy, but maybe he in his maturity,
he's becoming a WE guy in the NBA. Maybe being
with Denver, he's becoming a WE guy. But to see
those two guys featured there, and then on top of that,

(01:05:01):
on top of that, to have a night like that
like last night for Hunter Tyson, I believe. Let me
double check this. I think the graphic I saw, I
think it was his career high. I'm not up. I'm

(01:05:22):
not one hundred percent sure, not one hundred percent sure.
Trying to look, I'm gonna assume that that was his
career high at eighteen career high. Uh no, luck, I'm
not sure. I think it is, but maybe it's not.

(01:05:42):
Either way, though, eighteen points in the NBA game. I
can tell you this. Shooting the ball twenty times, I
guarantee you if if you could talk to Hunter Tyson
right now and you ask him about that, he would
tell you he felt like he shot the ball every

(01:06:03):
time he touched it in an NBA game. To be
able to shoot the ball twenty times, I mean that
is that is quintessential. You're shooting the ball just about
every time he gets into your hands, and you know,

(01:06:24):
that's kind of the the nature of the NBA at
this point. Nine three pointers, nine three pointers. I wonder
did I wonder if he ever shot nine three pointers
in a game at Clemson. I bet he didn't. I
bet Hunter Tyson never had a game where he shot

(01:06:46):
nine threes during his time at Clemson. That would be Look,
if you got some extra time on your hands, you
just want to throw that in and dig it up.
And look, I'm gonna your boys Swan, he's gonna say
he did not. That's gonna be my guess. Now. We
don't talk a lot about the standings in the NBA,

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but we are getting close. It's a couple more a
handful of games left in the regular season. I think
most teams have about five games or so remaining, maybe four,
kind of depending on what your schedule looks like. Right now,
the playoffs are shaping up a little something like this.
In the East, the Cleveland Cavaliers are sixty one and fifteen,

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the reign and defending champions. The Boston Celtics are in
second place fifty six and twenty, the Knicks forty eight
and twenty eight and third place, and the Pacers are
forty five and thirty one. They are in fourth place,
and they have clinched a playoff birth. Detroit's fifth forty

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two and thirty four. Milwaukee is six that forty one
and thirty four. But there's still a possibility that those
teams could play their way out and into that little
play in scenario where right now Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, and
Chicago would be. Chicago has clinched a playoff berth by

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virtue of the other teams in the East being eliminated.
Now they have not clinched the main playoff berth or
excuse me, they've clinched a play in birth, not a
playoff birth. So Chicago's in just depends on who's playing there.
Out West, Oklahoma City's the top team in the league
sixty four and twelve, and they are the top team

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in the NBA. Houston second fifty to twenty seven. The Lakers,
My Lakers, our Lakers, forty six and twenty nine. How's
that Luca trade working for you, Yes, sir. Denver forty
seven and thirty is fourth place, Golden State forty four
and thirty one in fifth place, Minnesota forty four and
thirty two. They are in sixth place, But there are

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two other teams with the same record. The Clippers and
the Grizzlies are both forty four and thirty two as well.
Dallas is thirty eight and thirty nine in ninth place
in Sacramento is thirty six and forty It is as
tight as it can be out West. For playoff bursts,
for play in bursts, for being eliminated from the playoffs,
I mean, honestly, looking at it, pretty much everybody from

(01:09:32):
what like nine down could be eliminated Dallas and Sacramento
and everybody from eight up could finish in the playoffs,
and I have to play in those play in games, which,
if I'm being honest, I do kind of like that format,
all right, and I don't like it in basketball in
college basketball. So how about that? All right? Quick break,
We'll come back. What's up with the Braves? They got

(01:09:52):
the goose egg in the win column. Stay with us
rolling along on a Thursday. I hate we could get
up with Timbrey, but he's got golf today. Masters tournament
gets going next week, which I know Tim loves. Also
taking a look out there. You know, major League Baseball

(01:10:14):
just got cranked up. We've talked a lot about the
the torpedo bats. Are torpedo bats legal? People are still
asking the question even though currently they are allowed. But
the Atlanta Braids might want to get a set of

(01:10:36):
torpedo bats because they are torpedoing the season. I'm not
sure how you bounce back from this now. They played
some tough competition, right The Dodgers were expected to be
the top team in Major League Baseball and they've got
one of the highlight players to show, Hey a Tani

(01:10:57):
and last night he had a walk off home run
to win the game against the Atlanta Braves in the
ninth inning to push the Dodgers start out to eight
and oh eight to o for the Dodgers come from
behind victory. The Braves, on the other hand, oh and seven.

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Now the Dodgers at eight and o top the nineteen
thirty three New York Yankees with Louke Garrig and bab
Rue for the longest winning street to begin a season
for a reigning champion. The Braves, on the other hand,
at oh and seven, they were expected to be the

(01:11:54):
second best team I believe in baseball, and that would
been the second best team in the National League behind
the Dodgers. But the Braves have started this season zero
to seven, which no team has ever recovered from to

(01:12:19):
make the playoffs. How about that the Braves went from
the penthouse potentially to the outhouse potentially. If there's a
positive to take away from this for the Atlanta Braves

(01:12:44):
is simply early. But I imagine my buddy Gavin's father,
mister Danny Black, is sitting at home at a loss
for what he's witnessing from his Atlanta Braves. They get
swept to open the year by the San Diego Padres,

(01:13:11):
and then they get swept by the Dodgers, and honestly,
just not a lot of offense. Fourteen runs scored in
seven games. You're not gonna win a lot of baseball
scoring just two runs. The Braves will take on the

(01:13:32):
Marlins tomorrow. Finally, back on the East Coast. Maybe it
was just that West Coast swing. I hope for Clemson
baseball sake, the West Coast swing will be better that
this was for the Atlanta Braves. I mean, they are starting,

(01:13:54):
they are starting to get a hole. Let's see in
the let me look how does that we're in the standings.
Let's see how many games back are they so? The
Braves are already five and a half games back, five

(01:14:17):
and a half games back. The old saying, Hey, the
worm's gonna turn. It can't it can't not turn at
this point for the for the Braves, they're the only
team in Major League Baseball he does not have a win.

(01:14:37):
Get this, the AL Central with the Minnesota Twins, Kansas
City Royals, Detroit Tigers, the Cleveland Guardians, and the Chicago
White Sox. Right now, every team in that division is
four and two. Excuse me, two and four. The whole

(01:14:58):
division has the same record right now. Again, it's still early,
but six games in. For that to be the record
across the board in your division, that's crazy. Looking here
for the Braves, let's see statistical numbers. Fourteen runs scored,

(01:15:27):
thirty two runs against. The fourteen run scored. That's the
third worst in baseball. The Astros have scored twelve and
the Rockies have scored just eleven. The team has scored
the most runs, Chicago Cubs right now have scored sixty

(01:15:52):
runs in their first nine games of the season, sixty.
See who's given up the fewest runs. Tampa Bay's given
up thirteen. The Padres have given up eleven runs in

(01:16:16):
seven games. That's the that seems to be the biggest one.
And then in the plus minus of runs scored versus
runs against, the best in the league right now looks
like the Padres at plus twenty five. Soof, woof, woof, Atlanta.

(01:16:41):
I don't talk baseball much, but I know the Braves
fans are out there. They got you. Gotta be you
gotta be a loss for words like what is what
is happening right now? You guys been hitting the face
with a frying pan out of the gates? Oh and
seven the MLB Power ratings. Let's see again. Coming into

(01:17:06):
the season, the Braves were listed as the second best
team in the league. They gotten down to eleventh, right now, Hey,
that's good. They didn't drop you all the way to
the bottom. They didn't go well, this is not going
to turn around. But no team's ever started with an
er to seven record that made the world excuse me,

(01:17:26):
made the postseason? Can the Braves pull it off?

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Quick? Brand, we'll put a ball on the show around
the band and stay with us.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
What have you done for me lately? It's a fair question.
Just don't lose sight of the bigger picture, don't forget history.
Lucky for us at Clemson, the answer to the questions
what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
And what have you done? Always are the same.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
We win.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Final segment on a Thursday afternoon, the Show, The Shakes,
The South Lay and Clemson Sports One Hang Out with You.
Clemson Tiger Baseball heading out to Cato. William Qualkinbush. We
mentioned it yesterday. He's going to be there, so should
be interesting to get his take on that kind of

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travel and the impact that he feels that might have
on the team. I mean, I know it's going to
wear him out as a broadcaster, let alone. If you
are one of the guys on the team and you've
gone out there and you know, played three ball games
or whatever. You're trying to bounce back. But you know

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the SEC talking about Sunday baseball and having to return.
I don't know if you saw this, but this past
weekend in the SEC, it was Kentucky and Texas A
and M facing off. Kentucky led ten to five, and
there is a rule in the SEC that an inning

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can't start until after five thirty pm Central on Sundays. Now,
if you take that to the ACC with cal and
Stanford in the conference. That would mean that inning couldn't
start later than two thirty right Pacific time. But this

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is an SEC rule and they only go as far
west as the state of Texas and Oklahoma, which is
Central Standard time at this point. But in that ballgame,
Kentucky was leading with a minute until the curfew, and
so you can't start a new inning if it's passed

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four thirty Central. And so Kentucky began stalling as much
as possible forty five seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
It's like basketball now that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
You should have wiped. I don't think think you can
get there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
I don't know if you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Now the catcher new seeds an intentional walk. You want
to throw balls here?

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Oh, this meeting on the mound now, and Mike Early
has something to say about this, Well, that'll do it.
This is a and m's last chance now and Mike
Early may be directing this at Nick Menjion. You have

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to know if your men gione, this won't sit well
with the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
This is why the warning should have been said two
innings ago.

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
Yeah, now, Nick Menjeon's firing back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
And so the two coaches as the stall technique went
into place by Kentucky. As that happened, early, gets heated,
comes out of the dugout. The two coaches are yelling
at each other, like, I don't have an issue per
se with having a late start time or excuse me,
a late game stop time. But to me, four point

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thirty on a Sunday night is a little bit early.
And what I might argue more than anything is that
depending on what inning this was the bottom of the
eighth inning, Texas A and M had one more at bat,

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just one. So I might make the argument that in
a situation like this that the start time or should
be the stop time either be shifted later because you're
in the late inning. So let's say you were in
the seventh inning at four point thirty, then okay, maybe

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that's gonna be it. Let's say you go to the
eighth inning. Well, now we'll make it five o'clock. Like,
maybe have a little staggered time so that it'll still
end in a reasonable hour. But to watch Kentucky stall,
you know, guys, check into the what are we gonna

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do here? Look into the bullpen, the catchers. Hey, we're
gonna walk this guy. We're gonna take our time. You know,
they were doing everything. There was nobody on two outs
and I misspoke, so Kentucky would have gotten the bat
and then A and M. This happened in College Station.
So the College Station fans are up there in the
crowd wearing their twelfth Man outfits, just perturbed to all

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get out that this stall is in place. There's a
clock in the stadium as visible. Everybody's got a telephone.
You know it's almost four thirty. You can hear the
announcer go, well, forty five seconds. Then you see the
catcher look over. You see there's gonna be a meeting
on the mound. Then I mean at that point Michael
Early might as well might as well get his money's worth.

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I mean, well, you got to lose at that point.
It's not as if you're gonna be able to get
that time backer, get to the next inning. Get your
money's worth at that point, there's no reason not to.
And remember the whole story behind Michael Early being the
head coach. Remember he was the hitting coach at A
and M that left when Schloshenegle went to Texas and

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then just a few days later returned to be A
and m's head coach, So an interesting story there out
of the SEC all right, we'll talk to you all
on Friday. Hard to believe it's here. Clemson playing ball
in cal tomorrow nine pm. Good gracious, that's late for
thirty Central. Ha. We'll talk to you tomorrow at four pm.
Until then, as always, you'all take care now and go

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Tigers