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September 11, 2025 • 84 mins
Swanny thinks Brent Key is a great coach, but his press conference ahead of the Clemson game was over the top with how short he was.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Each time for Clipson Sports Talk with Lowton Swan.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
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I want to first recognize obviously nine to eleven twenty
four years ago. Hard to believe that next year will
be twenty five years since nine to eleven took place.

(01:55):
And I think about how quickly that time has gone.
And you know, when I was born back in the
late seventies, you know, we were thirty some odd years
after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and to think that
we are already twenty four years past nine to eleven

(02:20):
kind of blows my mind, because I know we have
banners and posters and things of that nature that say
never forget. But I remember growing up with the thought
process of Pearl Harbor kind of being this old, ancient idea.
Now again, when you're a newborn, you don't know anything

(02:43):
about it, so you don't start to recognize these things
until maybe you're nine or ten, and then by then
you know it's forty plus years in the rear view.
But again, I think today, given the impact of nine
to eleven on so many of you, so many of
us remembering exactly where we were when that took place,
the thoughts and feelings, the ability to communicate the way

(03:06):
we could back then, not nearly what it was today. Like,
what's amazing about nine to eleven in a sense kind
of in this timeline is that there's just.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
One video.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Of the first tower being hit, and it was actually
a video by a French film crew that was in
Manhattan or in New York City doing a documentary on
firemen and they just happened to be out checking a
gas leak and he barely the cameraman barely pans over

(03:39):
in time to see that. CBS ran the special on
that probably in twenty twenty two, maybe twenty twenty three,
just after, and you could certainly find it online and
it's I mean, is it is? It is something to
behold because these guys were inside one of the towers

(03:59):
when the other with fell and just the tragic sense
of loss that I think everybody who was involved in
that has and the way it all played out in
front of us on national TV was also the shocking thing.
I was working at the movie theater back then, and
I remember thinking, like, why are we even open today.

(04:21):
Nobody's coming to the movie theater. Everybody's gonna sit at
home and watch what's taking place in front of them.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
And I was right, like, there.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Were probably only six or seven people that came into
the movie theater at that day, because there was also
this sense of, well, we don't want to go out
to a public place, we don't want to be too
public with where we are. And while I certainly don't
think Seneca, South Carolina was high on the radar of
the next place that something was gonna happen, but man,

(04:52):
nobody came out. And I think we've all over the
years just sort of absorbed and compressed and deal and
dealt with that moment in our own way. And I
think certainly now the new one World Trade Center, you know,
previously known as the Freedom Tower, I believe they have

(05:14):
since changed that name.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But nonetheless, the.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, the magnitude and the impact of that moment
twenty four years later hits everybody, hits everybody squarely. And
so just again, thoughts and prayers to all those people
that were involved that tragic day. It was something that
we had never witnessed, and to witness it in full
color and live on television the way we did was

(05:41):
it was really really unbelievable. But yeah, always always think
about nine to eleven. You can't even say September eleventh
without thinking back to that day in those moments with
that documentary, it truly is spectacular. And there are so
many wonderful documentaries that mark the day and the significance

(06:05):
of the individuals and the heroes and those on the
flight that crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania and all of that,
encompassing the day that was just in my life still
nine to eleven, two thousand and one, the seminal moment.
I mean, it's my JFK, it's my Pearl Harbor, it's

(06:28):
where I mean, you know exactly where you were the
moment that you found out. And there's never a good
way to shift gears off of that. And I imagine
next year at the twenty fifth anniversary it will be
a very big deal for a lot of people. But
I do want to shift gears here because you don't
tune into sports to talk about issues of the world,

(06:51):
so to speak. You tune into sports to talk about sports,
and I want to do that here and honor those
wishes for you guys who tune into talk about the
Clemson Tigers and the Georgia Tech yellow Jackets in that
matchup coming up this weekend. And speaking of matchups, there
is a matchup this weekend in Atlantic Coast Conference matchup. Now,

(07:12):
mind you, I didn't realize this when we were talking
about Virginia's game this past weekend. Did you realize, because
I did not, that Virginia and NC State were playing
an out of conference game.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I had no idea we even taught with.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
We also taught with Chad Morris about his son Chandler
in that contest. But you go check the schedules and
you will see the Virginia it's still zero and zero
in conference play in NC State.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Is still oh and oh.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But the wolf Pack will play tonight at seven third
on the road at wake Forest with a chance to
pick up a win in conference play.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
The winner of that game.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Will have the first official victory in league play, as
that is the solo game on the dock at tonight
seven thirty on ESPN. N C State favor by seven
and a half. Tomorrow five games on the slate, Indiana
State at Indiana on the Big Ten Network at six thirty,

(08:26):
Colgate at Syracuse at seven o'clock on the ACC Network.
Houston hosts Colorado at seven thirty on ESPN tomorrow night,
Arizona hosts Kansas State at nine o'clock on Fox, and
UCLA hosts New Mexico on the Big Ten Network at

(08:47):
ten pm Tomorrow night, and Kansas State man It gotta
be one of the more disappointing starts to the season
one and two. After being a top twenty five team
to start the year, they lost again Iowa State over
in Dublin twenty four to twenty one. They did beat
North Dakota, but just barely thirty eight thirty five. And

(09:09):
then they got beat last weekend by Army twenty four
to twenty one. And to add to that, you might
recall when we talk about the Army Black Knights, they
lost to Tarleton State, who I didn't even know was
a thing. They got beat by Tarleton State in their
opener thirty to twenty seven. And in all fairness to

(09:33):
Tarleton State, at this point they are three and zero
beating Portland State Army in Mississippi's Valley State. So again,
I hope you're picking up the sarcasm there in Tarleton
State's resume. But I'll tell you who didn't have any
sarcasm at all this week. Brent Key, head coach of

(09:55):
the Georgia Tate Yell Jackets, met with the media this
weekend or excuse me this week to talk about this
weekend's game against Clemson. And as I told you the
other day, I mean, it was awkward. He was so
awkward in business like and he's always a guy that talks,
but in this case it was almost as if he
was trying to avoid giving Clemson any type of bulletin

(10:17):
board material or anything they could post to try to,
you know, to try to motivate themselves in this contest
against the Yellow Jackets. But it came across weird and
I posted it on social media. I thought it was hilarious,
and people are like, this is click bait. There's nothing
funny here, dude, what are you talking about? What are

(10:41):
you talking about? A head coach of a power forward
program going into a big matchup against a team like
Clemson and he gives the media squadoosh. Maybe it's because
I'm in the media, but I find it hilarious. Dadosween
he gives us forty six minutes of goodness. There's so
many stories in the stuff that Davosweeny talks about. I

(11:03):
can't possibly write enough articles. I have to save some
of them. I have to save them for bye weeks,
which is great because we do have a couple of
bye weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But look, if you don't think these.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Clips right right here, that I'm about to play you,
because I'm gonna give you the full thing.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Remember, Dabo went forty six minutes.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Forty six but I'm about to give you the full
press conference. This is what it sounded like in Atlanta
this week as Brent Key met with the media.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
All Right, we got a new target this week. We
hit our mark last week. Missig han't changed for this
football team. This targets. It's a big one, the biggest
one up to this point, big.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Challenge for us.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
We're in the middle of preparation. We're busy preparing and
working on a plan, and we're ready to go on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Any questions could you have to take kind of where
hands is at and just how he's feeling going into Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
He's just right. Yeah, it looks good, feels good. Will
make determination this weekend.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
I want to ask you about Malachai Karney. I think
he told a story in the preseason he chased down
a dB on an interception. Can you tell us that
story and then just just out bright his future is
for this program?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, Unfortunately it was an interception in a practice and
he did what you're supposed to do and right after
it and chase it down and save to touch.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
No coach, obviously, every game is a big one Clemson,
just given the nature of the rivalry. How good they've
been over the last decade, the fact Tech hasn't beaten
them in almost over a decade. How is there any
extra weight that you put into a game like this,
knowing that the eyes of the country potentially are on this,
saying that, hey, Georgia Tech could be a serious contender
this year.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
No, every game is a challenge, and this is the
next challenge and it's a big one.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
Coach, what's this culture early about the Clemson team? Obviously,
you know they're very talented group. Just you know, just
when you got in the chance to look at them
to via tape, just what's culture so.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
For Yeah, they're good football team and we're excited to
play him.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
In terms of getting young guys in, Obviously, Christian Garrett
and Dre Fuller played well for you last week and
Tray has been playing well for you this whole season.
What does it kind of say about where those guys
are and your recruiting development piece to have them be
able to step in and contribute right away as a
defensive lineman and hard position.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, you know, good football players. They have a chance
to develop into really good ones. We're excited about the future.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
What do you like about kid Klubnick at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
He can run and throw, got experience, got a good scheme,
good coaches, well coached, good football player.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
What's your relationship like with Dabbo? Obviously some similarities in
the background and stuff. Just kind of what has your
relationship been like with him over the last few years.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, kind of know him like most of the other
coaches to have some similarities in our background. He's a
good man, good football coach. Respect him a lot.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
I know you guys have talked about challenging the offensive
line before that Colorado game, sort of similar to this
week facing a really really talented defensive front.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, every week's a big challenge.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
What's the progress been like with Rodney and aj in
terms of getting them back in action again?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The determination at the end of the week, hopefully they're
ready to play.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
You have to do an availability report for an ACC game.
Just meet with the trainers and doctors before you go
through that before the games.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
That kind of that process will work.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, follow follow the procedures been given and do what
we're required to do.

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Coach just wanted to actually just about the tailim you
have obviously in the backfield.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
I know they probably himselfso being one of the best
in the nation.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
Just maunt Kay Hosey and obvious Jamalhannes' just your thoughts
on their place so far the season.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, doing a good job. Yeah, only as good as
the next game, So you need to continue to improve.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
Keilo Stone, how great is it have him back as
part of this program and that defensive front for you guys.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, Keilo's a good, really good kid. I have a
really strong relationship with him. It's good to be a
part of his life again.

Speaker 10 (14:41):
Coach.

Speaker 9 (14:42):
A lot of things you like about the Gardener Web game,
but penalty count pretty high at twelve.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Unacceptable? Sorry, unacceptable.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Did anyone maybe catch your eye from the game with
finally getting you played? I think seventy six guys thirty
sixty six guys between offense and defense in the game.
Anyone kind of catch your eye, maybe finally getting some
opportunities to play a little bit that might have be
able to help you in the future.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of young guys and new guys
that played moved on to the next next game. I
can't remember off the top of my head, but I
was proud of all of them.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Was today a good practice or now.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I think our guys have good intensity and good intent.
All right, thank y'all, go Jackets.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
So that's it. I mean, that's that's the full shebang.
The only thing that I took out there were the
breaks in between where he answered a question and they
took the microphone to somebody else in the room.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, that's it. That's that's what two minutes, two.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And a half maybe, And what are you supposed to
write about if you're covering the Yellow Jackets? Listen to
the response that got picked up on a hot mic
from one of the reporters.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Should have went home?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Should have went home? Yeah, because it gave you nothing.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I understand that you want to have this, you know,
kind of this attitude about Clemson that they're not better
than you and they're not gonna come in there and
bully you around, But do give your fans and your
media something to talk about.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Like it was.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
It was honestly one of the more bizarre press conferences
I've ever witnessed.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And I don't like that. For Georgia Tech standpoint.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I know some people, the people that are like this
is serious. I wish Debo was more like this. This
is clickbait. I wish those people could recognize what I
think other people like myself did is that this was
almost like manufactured aggression. I mean, when you when you

(16:48):
have to go to a press conference and do that,
it really makes me feel like you are a little
bit concerned about this game, and you probably should be.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Is played bad, but the Tigers are certain to get
it to go, get it going at some point.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And I think if you're.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Brent Key, the better approach, at least in my opinion,
the better approach is to be a little more calm
and enjoyable and keep it from me. Because if I'm
Davos Sweeney, I'm playing that, I'm playing that for K Club.

Speaker 11 (17:28):
Nick.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
He can he could throw the ball, he can run
the ball. You have no kidding, coach, what do you
think about K Club?

Speaker 11 (17:37):
Nick?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
H He's a human being, breedes with lungs, heart pumps blood.
Like I felt as if it was almost so over
the top that it was honestly a little bit disrespectful
to Clemson. I really believe that, Like, if I'm Davos Sweeney,

(17:59):
I play that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
For the team.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Now this spread has moved around a little bit on
this game, it started at nine and a half preseason opened,
I think at six and a half, went down to
two and a half today, but back up to three
and a half points. Clemson be in the favorite there
at Bobby Dotts Stadium, noon kickoff on ESPN, and I

(18:24):
think the noon kickoff is a nice little benefit for Clemson.
I'm not saying that that environment is two raucous that
you have to deal with too much there. I don't
really feel like that's the case. But if you're talking
about would you prefer to play there during the day

(18:45):
or at night, I think you'd certainly prefer to play
there during the day. ESPN's matchup predictor still has Georgia
Tech as heavy favorites, and I know there are a
lot of people believe in the Yellow Jackets. Will and
do you find a way to win this game in
terms of quarterbacks and quarterback play. Georgia Tech and other

(19:07):
teams have to put out their official their official injury
report today, so we'll find out for sure where Haines
King stands and if the lower leg injury that he
was dealing with last week ends up affecting him now.
In that opener against Colorado, King was thirteen to twenty

(19:32):
fo one hundred and forty three yards, no touchdowns, with
an interception, But it was his legs that were so impactful.
Nineteen carries, one hundred and fifty six yards and three
touchdowns for the yellow Jackets in that game. So we'll see,
you know, if he comes out on that report later today,
it'll either be him or Aaron Filo at quarterback. And

(19:53):
believe me, you want to see Filo in my opinion,
speaking of quarterbacks, k Club that we'll hear from him
around the bench. Stay with US Clemson Sports Salt Lawdon Swan,
Welcome back into the program.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
On a Thursday.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Tim Beret, long time Clemson SI D Clemson Hall of Famer,
joins the program as the Tigers get ready to face
off with the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. One of the
things about this series is how close it was. There

(20:27):
was a stretch of games and we'll talk with Tim
Moore about the history of it all where these two
teams finished with games that were exactly settled by three points.
I mean it, it was bizarre. Now, Clemson quarterback Kay
Club Nick, we'll get a chance to face off with
the yellow Jackets in Atlanta, and obviously kay Klubnick kind

(20:52):
of given the nature of his position. I mean, he's
the straw that stirs the drink, and the drinks not
been stirred very well, you know what I mean, The
drinks have not been stirred very well. Now we'll see
if having a week again to kind of get his
mind right, make the right read and speed the game

(21:14):
up a little bit helps him out, because if it doesn't,
it could be a long day for Clemson against the
Yellow Jackets. But one of the guys who people have
talked about were, you know, very passionate and helping turn
the momentum in that contest this past weekend against Troy
at the half when Clemson trailed sixteen to three after

(21:34):
being down sixteen to nothing, it is Peter Woods. And
kay Kletmanck was asked about Peter woods halftime speech during
that Troy contest.

Speaker 12 (21:44):
It's really awesome. It's really cool to see how he's
grown over the last three years. You know, I feel
like for me, that's that's a role that it's it's
a tough spot to be in. You know, nobody wants
to lead, especially in a situation like that. It's it's
easy to lead when everything's going well, But to see

(22:05):
him step up and you know, I was in there
and heard it all, and I feel like we've had
some really really great leaders over the years, but to
see him really step in that role and take control.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
Of the moment was awesome.

Speaker 12 (22:15):
And his words were impactful and it was great to
hear man and but it was it was, it was awesome,
and it was really good to hear and you know,
obviously helped our team a lot and came.

Speaker 10 (22:26):
Out came out hot in the second half, and I
think because of that was was really helpful.

Speaker 12 (22:30):
Yeah, energetic and passionate for sure, because everybody just kind
of as soon as we came as soon as we came.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Back in.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
From from the first half, really as soon as we
came in, just kind of got everybody together and.

Speaker 10 (22:42):
Just you know, spoke to us and spoke from the heart, and.

Speaker 12 (22:46):
She kind of was a reset, honestly, just kind of
a reset. It was a wild first half, you know,
and uh, a little bit of a reset and just
all right, here we go, and it was it was good.

Speaker 10 (22:56):
I feel like.

Speaker 12 (22:58):
Halftime was good for us. Just kind of felt like
a little bit of normalc if that's a word of
reset into going in second half and go kick butt.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Clemson quarterback Kde club That was also asked about dealing
with the weather delay, which I thought was the biggest
issue for the team. Here's what Kate had to say
about that.

Speaker 10 (23:20):
Yeah, it is. I mean it.

Speaker 12 (23:23):
You know, you want to be in the right you know,
you try to time up the day and get yourself
in the right you know, mindset when you're about to
step on the field right, and you can't I just
like hold that energy and like that enthusiasm and like
that focus and like kind of mindset for seven hours

(23:46):
before you even play the game, right. So Like for me,
I'm not really trying to get super amped up. You know,
if we're playing a night game, I'm not going to
try to be super amped up and ready to go
play at noon. I'm trying to you know, kind of
get ready right before the game and try to really
get get my mind focused and everything. Obviously I'm preparing
throughout the whole day. But whenever you kind of have

(24:06):
that weird you know, hour and a half. How long
did the break end up being. I have no about
hour and a half, Like it was just it was weird.
You know, it was just I'd never experienced anything like it,
you know, we we kind of came back in. I
looked at Trent Pierman, and I was like, well, we
were due for one of these. You know, it's our
fourth year and we haven't had one of these yet,

(24:27):
so I guess everybody's got to have one during their career,
and so I was kind of just like, yeah, we
were kind due for one of these, but it was
just wild to like I didn't really know how to
handle the situation, you know, because you were told thirty minutes.
So then I'm like, all right, stay focused for thirty minutes,
you know, go over the game, playing again and everything,
and then they're like it's gonna be about another forty

(24:47):
five and You're like, okay, I just kind of like,
you know, chill for a little bit. And so I
ended up just taking all my pads, you know, to
on my cleaves, getting some treatment and stuff and kind
of disconnect. And then then they gave us kind of
a fifteen minute warning that you kind of got a
locked back in and go again.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
So, you know, I feel like we handled.

Speaker 12 (25:03):
It fairly well, but it definitely is a little weird
and then we just had didn't have some things to
go our away in the first half. And then it's
kind of, just like I said at the very start,
halftime came around, just kind of like a reset, all right,
a little bit of normal routine.

Speaker 10 (25:16):
Back here we go.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Let's go kay Club.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That was also asked about sort of the crisp, crispness
of the Clemson offense there in the second half against Troy, just.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
Doing what we do, man, and just and we weren't
doing too much.

Speaker 12 (25:30):
I think in the first half it was kind of
ten guys working at a time and just kind of,
you know, one guy not doing his job. We got
to have all eleven guys doing our job at a
really high rate. And that's what we did in the
second half, really really well, and we were really efficient
on first and second down, which which helped a ton,
and it was it was awesome to see that and
hopefully going to continue to carry that on this week

(25:53):
and the weeks ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Finally paint from K club to getting this hour. He
was asked about how you translate things from the practice
field to the game field. Is dad was Sweeney said,
the things that practice really haven't been showing.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
Up just trust it, you know, just trust our preparation.
You know, I gotta go make up anything, you know.
I feel like sometimes shot a couple of guys just
kind of make up something and just you know, get
out of our routine fundamentals and just gotta go do
what we do.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
You know, don't over complicate it.

Speaker 12 (26:24):
You know, what's my job period, That's it, you know,
And that's something that I had to remind myself a
lot of in week two. You know, what's where of
my eyes really need to be what's my job and everything?

Speaker 10 (26:33):
And I feel like I'm made a big step.

Speaker 12 (26:35):
And hopefully we'll continue to do so.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
So moving forward.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
So that's Clemson Quarterback Cade Club that we'll jump back
into some Ofcaide's comments after we taught with Tim Burray
coming up in our number two of the program. All
right again, football tonight one game. It's the Atlantic Coast Conference,
North Carolina State on the road at Wake four, seven
thirty start on ESPN. Wolf Pack favored by seven and

(27:00):
a half in this ballgame, and you know, it's a
big game, I think certainly for both teams, the first
conference game, absolutely not exactly two teams that are overly
highly thought of in the conference, especially Wake Forest, but
for INCI State, every win at this point with Dave
Dorian in all the years he's got under his belt,

(27:21):
I think are significant for his timeline as their head coach.
All right, quick break, Well we come back a lot
of people out there selling on the Tigers, but not
one national analyst. He's still all in. I'll tell you
who when we return. Lawton Swan Clemson Sports Talk eight
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(27:42):
don't forget about our friends in Alumni Hall on the
corner of campus on College Avenue with downtown Clemson. It's
Alumni Hall for all you're officially licensed Clemson merchandise. I
was in there before the LSU game. Man, that place
was packed, and they've got some of the most incredible
Clemson gear you can get your hands on, like those
Nike drive Fit polos I've been telling you about that

(28:03):
I love so much. You can find them online too,
go through our website through stories. As a matter of fact,
we've got one up right now on our web page
that is brought to you in part by Alumni Hall.
The story about Tink Kelly former Daniel High School standout.

(28:27):
You go to that story and then click on Alumni Hall.
Then you shop online, we'll get credit for that. And
if you shop in store, and I saw plenty of
Climpses students, perhaps some faculty, maybe even some military, I'm
not sure, but if you shop in store, you get

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ten percent off if you are a Climpsuve student, faculty,
or a military member.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
All right, So I told you that a lot of
people are not in love with Clemson based off of.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
What they've seen, and one analyst out there, who typically
doesn't love the Tigers, in my opinion, seems to buy
in that Clemson even though he's presented some concern. Joel

(29:26):
Clatt basically says, hey, he thinks this is a bounce
back opportunity for the Tigers.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So even though this thing.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Had dipped to two and a half points earlier, today's
back up to three and a half. But Joel Clatt
is wondering about Haines King's injury he sat out last week.
He says, quote, my question is for Haines King and
Georgia take if Haines King is available, healthy and rated,

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maybe they got a shot in this game. But if
he didn't play last week after clearly being hobbled against
Colorado in Week one. That's a Colorado team that really
had some chances to beat Georgia Tech. I just can't
get myself into the point where I think Haines King
can run it fifteen to twenty times, which he would
have to do in order for them to win like
he did last year versus Georgia. He says, I don't

(30:25):
see that for me. I think Clepson gets back on track.
They covered the three and a half, they win it
big thirty one seventeen. Joe Clatt went on to say,
remember peaks and valleys. I think we're about to get
a peak. I think you're going to see some urgency
from Clemson. Their offensive line should definitely play better. There's

(30:45):
no doubt Kate Klebenick should definitely play better. And this
is a week they could certainly get it right.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's what.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Joe Clatt had to say about the Tigers. And I
know you are excited to hear that, and I also
recognize that you'll say, well, Joe Klatt's opinions, why they
I can spit in one hand and listen to him
in the other, and I'll tell you which one fills
up first, and I get it, but I do think
that there is something to the fact that this Clemson

(31:18):
team has had some struggles.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
They certainly sputtered out of the gates.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I think week one was a large part about LSU,
and I think we too, was a little bit of carryover,
hanging over, whatever you want to call it, combined with
that rain delay, and the Tigers just found themselves in

(31:47):
a little bit of a funk. Little funk A source
wrecks out there on the field, and so when you're
not able to shake that and you aren't playing necessarily,
what was the what was the text message we got?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Don't gun it reckless, not reckless, abandoned. Uh, don't make.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Me pull up the text line something to do with
the defense being like reckless. Ah man, I feel bad now.
I brought it up in a caven. I can't even
remember what the terminology was because I thought it was
I really thought it was great terminology in terms of

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this defense and what they have to be. I'm going
to the text line now.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Don't worry. Some text are out there score screaming at
their phone right now. Swa you, I gotcha? All right,
here we go.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
What was that line game wrecking, game wrecking. If that
defense is game wrecking, I don't think it matters who
the quarterback is for Georgia Tech. Quite frankly, game wrecking

(33:16):
to me translates into dominating, and that is what this
defense has not been in my opinion. They have not
been dominant, certainly not to the way that you would
have expected them to be. The LSU game a little

(33:37):
bit of an anomaly as a matter of fact. Right now,
Garrett Nussmer the odds on favorite to win the Heisman
Trophy along with John Mattier. By the way, at Oklahoma,
which I warn you about Matier didn't. I still a
lot of football left. Every team he plays the rest
of the way is currently ranked, but or every team

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the rest of the way in the SEC he played
is ranked. But I think at this point, you know,
when you look at those Heis nods and and k
clubnic has completely vanished, that tells you how poorly he's
been playing. And it is hard to imagine that he
just has has peaked or flat lined and this is

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all you can get from him. But that was a
question I asked him about at the ACC kickoff, like,
how do you take your game up another level. And
he talked about just trying to be the best version
of himself, talked about trying to beat the version of

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himself from a year ago. The problem is at this point,
I don't know that he's done that now.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Granted, he was not great against Georgia in the opener
last year, and we could certainly look at those numbers
if you want, matter of fact, that might be a
healthy exercise. Let's see where k Clubney was two games
in a year ago by comparison to where he is now.
I think that's important. Plus Georgia Tech gonna wide it
out against the Tigers.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
More on that when we get.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Back final segment of our one. Tim Beray set to
join us around the bend in our number two. So
what I promised you before the break, And it just
kind of hit me as we were talking about kay
Clubnick and talking about the way he's played and talking
about how this you know, how everybody feels about this

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one in one Clemson team. By the way, last year
this time they were also one and one. But the
second matchup against Troy is the one that sort of
sets the stage for how you maybe feel about him
and the way he's played at this point because it
was such a struggle out of the gate. But here's

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where Kate is thirty seven of sixty two for four
hundred and twenty six yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions.
Club Nick's legs, which we thought would be a factor,
have not been thirteen carries for negative three yards total,

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you know when you take out his sacks and everything.
So has not been fantastic on the ground by any means.
But how do those numbers pair up to what he
did in the first two games last season, right?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And I mean, I think that's a.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Pretty fair way to look at it. You know, if
you're going to judge this kid, let's judge him by
the numbers and what he did in those first two
games a season ago. So against Georgia in the opener,
he was eighteen of twenty nine for one hundred and

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forty two yards, zero touchdowns, in one interception. Then he
came back in the game against app State and the
Tigers did what they probably should have done. Detroy this
past weekend, Cave was incredibly efficient twenty four of twenty
six for three hundred and seventy eight yards, five touchdowns

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and no interceptions. So just looking at those numbers for
a minute, you're talking about five hundred and twenty yards passing,
five touchdowns in one pick, and in total, when you're
talking about his passing numbers, he was forty two of

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fifty five, forty two of fifty five, and let's see
for five twenty five.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
With one pick. I mean, he was better.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
At this point last season because of that app State game,
but he wasn't blow your mind better two touchdowns and
two interceptions by comparison to five and one, but all
five of those came against App State. So yeah, I mean,

(38:37):
if you're gauging it off of his play from last
season to this season, because of those numbers that he
had in that app State game, it certainly sort of
exkews it in favor of being better a year ago.

(38:58):
But then he was about the same kid for the
next three ballgames. You know, he was seventeen ish of
thirty ish passing for two hundred and ten yards a
game with you know, three touchdowns roughly on average, and

(39:21):
seventeen to thirty this weekend with three touchdowns passing, probably's
enough to beat Georgia Tech, wouldn't you think.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Again? I don't know when these final.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Line up, you know who's starting and who's out and
all that stuff. I will say Brent Key did say
he was planning to be transparent with all that. So
I would assume we're gonna get the real McCoy and
we'll know whether or not Haines King is playing now.
If Haines King doesn't play, first off, I would be shocked,

(40:00):
like tie my hair to the carpet shot. I would
think that this guy would have to just be completely
immobile to not be willing to play in this game.
I would think he would have to be immobile to
not excuse me to have Brent Key say you're not

(40:21):
playing in this game. Because one of those big factors
with Haines King and the way he impacts the game,
freeing things up for Jamal Haynes, is the fact that
you've got a quarterback who's very adept at pulling the

(40:43):
ball down and potentially scrambling and making plays and even
on design runs. I mean, he's really really good. And
the course, as we know, Brent Kee loves to.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Run the ball, run the.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Ball, and so the Yellow Jackets and the Tigers this weekend,
I do like Clemson defensively. I think it's a pretty
wild storyline with Aj Hoffler, who is supposed to be

(41:17):
starting this weekend against Clemson, the former Tiger commit who
transferred to Georgia Tech during the off season. Also Tay Harris,
who was a Clemson commit who flipped his commitment to
Georgia Tech as well.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
The Yellow Jackets.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Have more momentum off the field, I think under brink
Key than they have had in a long long time.
But where Clemson's been, and I know where you've been
doesn't make you who you are. But this Clemson team
has just got a lot more depth and it's hard
for me not to think that that finally shows up

(41:58):
and the Tigers play well. Ah. Like I I'm not
giving you my prediction today, but this feels like one
that that Clemson I kind of kind of yield to
Joe Klatt to I can't imagine that all of the
things that people have said about Clemson were just fluff,
And I think once the Tigers really get going, they're

(42:19):
gonna be a tough team to stop. Tim Burray joins
us an hour number two Keep it Locked.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Each time for Clipson Sports Talk with Luton Schwan.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It is our number two. That's drivetime right here on
the show that shakes the south Land, Clemson sports talk
lord Swan hanging out with you on a Thursday afternoon,
hoping to get caught up with legendary longtime Clemson sid

(43:28):
Clemson Hall of Famer Tim Beray here on the program
as the Tigers get ready to face off with the
Georgia Tate Yellow Jackets. And you know, because we tend
to discuss these things with Tim, I don't want to
get too deep in the weeds, but still not able
to connect with him, which occasionally that happens. Either way,

(43:52):
if he gets back with us, that'll be spectacular, because
of course he is going to be on the call
with Don Munson and Reggie Meriweather for that kickoff in
Atlanta at noon. Clemson trails incredibly the all time series
with the Yellow Jackets, if you can believe that, thirty
six fifty one and two.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
At home.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
The Tigers lead at eighteen to six. But you'll remember
for years Frank Howard sold this game to the Yellow Jackets,
and you go play that thing in Atlanta. Clemson actually
only has sixteen wins in Atlanta against Georgia Tech over

(44:36):
the years, They've played in Atlanta sixty two times and
won sixteen of those. If that's not the weirdest stat
when you think about it out loud, the fact that Clemson,
Low old Clemson has not performed better then that over

(45:06):
the years is shocking. It also tells you a little
bit about how good Georgia Tech was for years. Right
the last meeting these two teams met November in the eleven,
twenty twenty three. That was a neutral site game, home
game for the Yellow Jackets. Neutral site though there at
Mercedes Benz Stadium, which was a forty two to twenty
one win for Clemson. And the Tigers have won nine

(45:29):
straight games in this series. And to think about winning
ten in a row against any opponent, I mean, it's
pretty tough to do. Like if you get beat this weekend,
and I know, you'll blame the offense, and you'll blame
the defense, and you'll blame the coaching staff, like I know,
everything you'll blame.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But would I be wrong in saying that?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
There's also the factor of eventually Georgia Tech's got to
win a game in this series. I mean, eventually, doesn't
that streak have to be snapped? If Clempson can go
to North Carolina and win in basketball, by the way,
not once now, but twice.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Hooray. You gotta feel good about that.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Then Georgia Tech can certainly snap this nine game losing
streak against Clemson. The Tigers and the Yeljacks are facing
one another for the forty second time in the last
forty three years, because last season these two teams did
not play for the first time since nineteen eighty two,
they did not face off, and for years this game

(46:28):
was the protected rival on the opposite side of the
division when you had two divisions, and so Clemson and
Georgia Tech always played. And we got lucky, we got him.
He's here with us, Tim Beray, Tim, welcome in. Hey,
we were talking about this Georgia Tech series before you
came on. And the fact that you know last year

(46:48):
was the first time they hadn't played since nineteen eighty two.
How special is this matchup slash rivalry in your eyes?

Speaker 13 (46:57):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 11 (46:58):
You know.

Speaker 13 (46:58):
The thing that comps to my mind is from ninety
seven to to those six games. It was ninety six though. Anyway,
we had a six game streak that every game was
decided by exactly three points, which is really just just amazing.
And we had another three point game davos first full

(47:23):
year down there. I think it was the second game
of the season that Georgia Tech won thirty to twenty seven.
So they've been some great games, some close games. Woody
Dansler had a terrific game down there, and a sophomore
year we lost a close, high scoring game. There haven't
been many games where both teams and Clumbson Industry scored

(47:44):
in the forties, but two of them happened within three
years of the Georgia Tech series. We had the game
in two thousand where we started out eight no and
then George got He threw a touchdown pass to Kelly
Campbell inside of the last minute of the game to
end our streak that year. And so they've just been

(48:05):
a lot of great, great performances. I did the pregame
show with Dabbo today for Saturday's game, and we started
out talking about the first time he ever went to
Tech and that was two thousand and pre his first
year as a wide receivers coach, and it was a
memorable game for him because Glempson won thirty nine to
three and four to four different of his wide receivers,

(48:28):
remember he was the wide receivers coach, then caught touchdown
passes in that game and we won thirty nine to three.
Charlie Whitehurst had a great game. So so there's there's
a lot of great history bat The series goes back
to the eleventh game in Clemson football history, believe or not. Wow,
it's it. It goes way back to when John Heisman

(48:50):
coached for Clemson against Tech and then Heisman coached for
Tech against Clemson.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Well, and you know, I look at it, and I
know Frank Howard would sell that game to make money.
But it's one of the press releases that's always stunning
how dominant Georgia Tech's numbers are in Atlanta. Like there's
very few of these that we open up tim each

(49:16):
and every year where it's like Clemson trails sixteen forty
four and two on the road, Like it's just not
really a thing, even though winning on the road is hard,
that type of I do on the record overall record
on the road is one of those numbers that just
pops off the page when you see what the yell
Jackets have done to Clemson in Atlanta over the long history.

Speaker 13 (49:39):
Yeah, well, georgia 's got a good a good history.
I think the longest winning streak was went from seven
to eighteen something like that. I know, they won ten
in a row and now we're going for ten in
a row in the series. So and there was a
long streak that you know, coach Howard won in Atlanta

(50:03):
and forty five and sixty nine, those are the only
two years he'd beat tore to check in Atlanta. Now
we didn't play every year. I think they won nine
straight during that period of time. So I think we
only played nine times between nineteen forty six in nineteen
sixty eight, but they but Tech won every one of them.

(50:23):
And they were a strong program obviously during Bobby died
in those times and they were in the SEC from
when was it sixty three or whatever, So you know,
they've they've been a good, you know, good program. And
I think they've beating Dabble five times over the years too,
So I think they might have the most wins among

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SEC teams against that.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, and the game and the ACC Championship where neither
team Punts and CJ. Spillers named the MVP on the
losing side of that you know that ACC Championship visit,
and I just think to myself to have something like
that happen. I mean, it's just so rare to have

(51:08):
a game where nobody punts and the losing running back
gets the MVP.

Speaker 13 (51:14):
Yeah, two hundred and thirty three yards in that game.
That was an unbelievable game and it ended up thirty
nine thirty four. But you're right, neither team punted. That
was It was the only game in college football in
two thousand and nine that neither team punted, and it
was It was a very entertaining game, and it would

(51:36):
you know, just came down with the last possession. We
weren't able to be able to score.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Well, I know the last time these two teams met
up in Atlanta, one team punted a lot the other
one did in seventy three to seven, the final score
the largest margin of victory in ACC play. I sometimes
think games and victories like that over the years recently
is kind of the shoe that people really have when

(52:02):
this offense doesn't click the way they wanted to. But
what what do you recall to him? Because I know
that's tough. I remember watching Braves games kind of keeping
it in the Atlanta theme when I was a kid
and the Braves were so bad that you know, Skip
Carrey's talking about the pigeons eating popcorn. How do you
handle seventy three to seven h The last time you

(52:24):
guys went down to Atlanta.

Speaker 13 (52:25):
Actually the last time that we played in that stadium.
Remember we played Georgia Tech in Atlanta in the Stadies.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Ben Oh yeah, true, fairpoint a couple.

Speaker 13 (52:34):
Of years ago. So yeah, we did play them in Atlanta.
But yeah, this will be the first five first time
in five if we played in Bobby Dodge Stadium. So yeah,
you're right, Yeah, I do remember that game. You know,
the twenty twenty season was crazy. The only road game
that Don and I went to, the only road game
we went to was the with the game at Notre Dame.
We actually called that Georgia Tech game from the Jervia

(52:58):
Athletic Center, as we did some other games you know
that season. But yeah, it was it was quite remarkable.
I remember Hunter Rensell played quarterback at some point in
that game, and and so yeah, it was it was
a pretty I mean, uh drew a juice, scored a
touchdown and that in that game of the reserve so, uh, yeah,

(53:22):
it was a quite remarkable game, of course. Uh, Trevor
Lawrence that the whole season was was was pretty amazing
as he rose through its whole career. Trevor Lawrence never
lost a regular season game in his career.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Wow man, unbelievable again, followed Tim on Twitter. At tim
Beray last week, we talked about, you know, when you
kind of feel it that the game might be slipping away,
let's talk about this current team. As Troy goes up
sixteen to nothing. I know, I know people are beginning
to panic cause my text line, people start, you know,

(53:58):
texting and worrying and you know, like should not change
my shirt? I mean, everybody's going with for whatever superstitions
that they can. And I'm just kind of cool watching
it because I feel like there was a lot that
took place in the after the first two possessions and
the hour and no thirty two minute rain delay. I
just thought that once Clemson finally made a play and

(54:19):
broke through, they were gonna be fine. I never had
any concern about it. Were you kind of more in
line with me? Or when it's sixteen to nothing, are
you going, oh boy, this is bad news?

Speaker 13 (54:29):
Oh I had a lot of concern when it was
sixteen to nothing. Now they did, Now I did. I
did say, okay, sixteen to nothing, but they've only scored
one touchdown and that was on their first you know drive.
They scored a fluke touchdown on that you know interception
that was batted up, and you know, you just have
a guy that's filling the end zone. So but yeah,

(54:52):
you're always concerned. But I also was well aware of,
you know, the history of playing destroy where we've had
struck Gold each of the two previous times that we
played him, but then played well in the second half.
That's kind of what happened. And you know, twenty sixteen,
we've won the national championship and we we beat Troy

(55:13):
just by six points and had recovered no Siye kick
but forty four seconds left before we really had.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
The game.

Speaker 13 (55:21):
Locked up. So yeah, we've kind of gotten off the
start like it was in twenty sixteen, although we did
beat Auburn in that first game in twenty sixteen and
then a close game with Troy. So but I did
look up some stats comparing Deshaun Watson through two games
that year to Kaid, and the kid is much better
than Deshaun was through two games in twenty sixteen in

(55:44):
terms of completion percentage, yards for a tempt, passing efficiency, touchdown,
the interception ratio. So so you know, let's see what happens.
We're gonna play a pretty good team on Saturday against
Georgia Tech, so it'll be a good barometer game for us.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I matter of fact, earlier in the show, I kind
of looked at Cage's numbers comparing this season to last season,
and he's.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
A little bit better.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Obviously, he had a big day against app State at
home by comparison to what he did against Troy this year.
But I mean it wasn't like marketably because he actually
performed better against LSU than he did against Georgia and
the opener last season. Tim Bray with us here on
the program now, speaking of you know, Kay Klubnick in

(56:31):
this Clemson offense, I really like what we saw out
of halftime, you know, giving the ball to Adam Randall,
really letting him attack downhill. And I think there were
some flashes there tim where people fans in particular, finally
saw what this coaching staff is kind of talked about

(56:52):
with what they think Adam Randall can be at running back.

Speaker 13 (56:57):
Yeah, I agree with you, And I think I told
you a couple I saw it in scrimmages and and
that I thought he had a good sixtent about where
to run between the tackles. And I think we saw
that in the second half of particular in the first
drive of the second half. I think he had fifty
four yards and that drive to open the second half,

(57:18):
and you know, he took You know, the thing about
like I like a bottom two is he's always going
to be a threat to catch the ball out of
the backfield because of his history as a receiver. So yeah,
I mean, I I you know, I was certainly happy
what I saw in the second half. He had one
hundred yard game, and so we'll see what that was.

(57:40):
And Davio did say on the postgame show I interviewed
him that the coaches did recognize something. They changed something
in the blocking scheme and it it certainly, it certainly worked.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
One of the other things Watch had that text come
in earlier this week, and the sentiment was the texture
did not feel like the defensive line had been game
wrecking like they expected. Like I think the perception coming
into the season, as much as we've talked about the offense,
was that you were gonna see these defensive linemen just

(58:14):
obliterating the opponent. And granted we're only two games in
and you know, probably one hundred and somewhid total plays defensively,
but would you say that the defense has underperformed up
front by comparison to maybe what you would have thought
they would have looked like at this.

Speaker 13 (58:30):
Point, you know, I wouldn't say they've under a defense
it's only given up two touchdowns, has underperformed. I think
maybe they're just talking more stats.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
They were just talking more specifically about the right, like
the defensive line, and just like feeling like I think
the perception was for some fans, and again that you
know that's who's listening here, Tim, was that these guys
are just going to be mauling people up front.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
They don't feel like they're seeing that.

Speaker 13 (59:00):
No they haven't. They haven't seen that. But that's what
people think of when they think of defensive line. They
think of sacks and tackles for loss, and we haven't
had that many. But I go back to we haven't
given up. We haven't given up that many rushing yards either.
I mean, you know, well, you only had two point
eight yards for rush the last fifty eight minutes of

(59:23):
the game. I don't think that Roy ran the ball
that effectively either.

Speaker 10 (59:28):
Not.

Speaker 13 (59:28):
The team were playing Saturday. They had three hundred yards
rushing against Colorado in the first game, and they're they're
averaging well over two hundred yards a game so far
rushing this year. So this I think is going to
be a really good test to what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Final thing with you, Tim, And this kind of goes
back to your old job as a SID. And now
that they're putting out the injury reports again and I
don't know when those are going to drop at some
point today, but the accuracy of those injury reports, and
obviously for Clemson you've got a couple of guys like
Antonia Williams. For Georgia Tech, I mean you got the

(01:00:07):
quarterback Haines King You're you're looking at, I mean, how
accurate do you expect these things to be or are
they required to be accurate?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Do you know?

Speaker 13 (01:00:16):
Yeah? No, I mean it's I mean we did it
when I was sid and and uh and they were accurate.
Now that it's going to be released at the releases
of the injury report for the acc will be at
eight PM and based on the time zone of where
the game is played. So obviously you've got two Eastern

(01:00:36):
time Zone teams playing, so tonight at day o'clock they'll
be they'll be an injury report and he'll just say
the person's name and what their status is, which would
be and there's there'd be no reference to what the
injury is. It'll just say Antonio Williams out what day

(01:00:59):
to day his status. It's either going to be out, probable, questionable.
You know, we'll play, you know whatever, right, But that's
that's that's how it will be, uh a release. But
I think they'll be they'll be accurate as accurate as
they can be. Now, you know. I obviously I've had

(01:01:22):
history with with this, and sometimes on Thursday night you're
not sure if the guy's gonna play, so you're gonna
play question and then and then you put questionable and
then if he doesn't play, well, then people say, well,
you knew you didn't play. But no, I think I
think they're pretty uh, I think they're pretty accurate at
at that time. So but things can certainly change between

(01:01:43):
between Thursday and Saturday, and and you know, I actually
talked to Ross yesterday about it. I mean, when you
play a team that's close by that you actually can
drive a player to the game. I mean you might
have a person that's questionable on on Thursday, doesn't travel
with team Friday, and some administrator drives the player down

(01:02:05):
at the game on Saturday morning, so and any plays.
So it's it's that's why that there'll be a Thursday,
Friday and a Saturday two hours before the game release.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Wow, that's awesome. Thank you, Tim, have a great week.
Always appreciate you.

Speaker 13 (01:02:20):
All right, sounds good?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Quick break, keep it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Locked, Lawton Swan back with you on a Thursday afternoon,
eight oh three four five h zeros.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
You're eighty six.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
So we heard a little bit from K Club earlier,
and I did problemse you that we'd get you more
of it here in hour number two, as Clemson's quarterback
tries to shake the funk if you will, but he
was asked about areas where he feels like he needs
to improve heading.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Into this matchup against the Yellow Jackets.

Speaker 12 (01:02:48):
Being decisive, you know, just have my eyes in the
right place, being decisive, you know, I still had two
plays I wish I could have back with pocket presence,
but you know, I think just getting the right foot
in the ground and triggering the ball, just being decisive
and the word I love, you know, just kind of
going back and watching it was just being convicted by
what I'm doing, you know, not overthinking, just be convicted

(01:03:09):
by what I see.

Speaker 10 (01:03:09):
And triggering it.

Speaker 12 (01:03:10):
And I feel like that's what I do really well,
and just got to go do that in a game.

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
You know, I kind of just threw one on the
run to TJ the vertical.

Speaker 12 (01:03:19):
I didn't really need to, yeah, start out to the
right and then reset to Getty and it was p
I and I could have just you know, just click reset,
I mean like I do every day a thousand times.

Speaker 10 (01:03:29):
And I just kind of got into.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
A little scramble and threw it on the run, which
just didn't need to do.

Speaker 12 (01:03:33):
Like I said, not like it was a bad play,
but just could have been more efficient and gotten you know,
didn't need to move k club.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
It was also asked about the offensives focus as they
headed to this matchup in Atlanta.

Speaker 10 (01:03:46):
Some run game.

Speaker 12 (01:03:47):
Stuff, you know, just timing up, you know, just kind
of timing up some of our run games just a
little bit off right now.

Speaker 10 (01:03:52):
I mean we did, we.

Speaker 12 (01:03:54):
Ran the ball really well, but there's still a lot,
you know, we need to be better at so stuff there,
which is exciting, you know. I remember, I feel like
one of the most exciting things ever is you know
you're going to play a great game and you go
watch the film and there's so much better that you
can get better at.

Speaker 10 (01:04:11):
There's so much more that you can get better at.

Speaker 12 (01:04:12):
And I think that just talking to Adam, like that's
how he viewed it, was like, hey, man, you know
I ran for one hundred and twenty something yards.

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
And there's still so much I get better at. Like
how exciting is that?

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:04:23):
For him?

Speaker 12 (01:04:23):
And that offensive line. So that's just, you know, that's
really fun. I feel like that's one of the big
things for us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
For sure, kay club.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
It was also asked about the fact that this is
his first trip to play at Bobby Dodds Stadium, because
the first time they were supposed to meet his freshman year,
that game was played in Mercedes Benz Stadium.

Speaker 10 (01:04:41):
I've never been down there.

Speaker 12 (01:04:42):
I've heard it's an awesome place, you know, I've heard,
you know, it's kind of downtown.

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
You get a view of the skyline.

Speaker 12 (01:04:48):
Whatever you're in there kind of reminds me of a
stadium that I used to play at high school. Obviously
not comparing the two, but House Park in Austin was
a place we used to play.

Speaker 10 (01:04:59):
Is downtown Austin.

Speaker 12 (01:05:00):
You're kind of on the field and you got all
the skyline, so it'll be cool, you know, kind of
similar Charlotte as well.

Speaker 10 (01:05:06):
So I'm excited to go.

Speaker 12 (01:05:07):
I've heard they got a great atmosphere and they've got
a great team and great offense, great quarterback, you know, Haynes,
he's a baller, So you know, excited to go down
there and play.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
That's Clemson quarterback k club Nick talking about playing in
Bobby Dodd Stadium. He was also asked about playing against
this Georgia Tech defense on Saturday.

Speaker 10 (01:05:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:05:28):
I mean they've got you know, they got talent all over.
You know, they've got great defensive line. Uh you know
dbs that you know, I've played a lot of ball
and and you know know the game really well, very instinctual.
You know, they've got a couple of good disguises that
we're gonna have to get ready for they you know, they're.

Speaker 10 (01:05:45):
Kind of a been, kind of donpe break kind of team.

Speaker 12 (01:05:47):
You know, they're gonna they don't really want to let
up a ton of you know, big plays, a little
bit more conservative there, you know, So there, there's there.
DC was at Texas last year as their safeties coach,
so watching obviously some of that game from last year
and some of the stuff that they did.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
It's it's not exactly the same, but definitely.

Speaker 12 (01:06:06):
Some similarities just in some of the disguises and stuff
and stuff that they get too. So it's good tape
to buzz through. But it's definitely a little bit different.
But you know, they've got a great coaching staff and
kay club.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
It was also asked about what it's like to kind
of embrace the atmosphere when you go on the road
and to have to deal with the noise and the
pomp and circumstance it comes along with being a road team.

Speaker 12 (01:06:32):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's great. You know, I
wouldn't want any other way, you know. I think that
that's that's why I came to Clemson for sure, is
to have that. So I love it and their respective
program and.

Speaker 10 (01:06:48):
I'm excited. I love road games.

Speaker 12 (01:06:50):
I'm excited to go have our first road game and
go you know, into somebody else's territory, so it'll be awesome,
you know. I've I've heard that their atmosphere is great,
and definitely excited to head out there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
So I posed the question. We were kind of looking
at the stats about you how Cade's legs have not
been a big part of the game, and Club Nitt
was asked about the use of his legs and and
kind of what he can do to improve on that front.

Speaker 12 (01:07:15):
Obviously that was a problem in the in Week one.
Just at being a Week one game and you know,
not being hit in a while. So I feel like
I you know, we watched the tape and I feel
like I've definitely made a lot of good shots. There's
two plays I wish I could have back, but I
feel like I definitely hung in there when I needed
to this past game, and we'll continue to get better

(01:07:36):
at it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
So Club Nitt was also asked about the quick strike
after Clemson benefited from a penalty on Troy that allowed
the Tigers to run that little deep on sidekit. We
wrote about it on our website today, Clemson sports saw
dot Com. He was asked about the interception in the
quick touchdown to to uh Bryant Westcoat and the impact

(01:07:59):
that the run game had on that play action.

Speaker 12 (01:08:02):
Yeah, you know, we had kind of showed that that
play a few times would bring Brian in motion and
just something that they'd probably seen probably about three times already,
so we had had a play action off it. We
actually ran the same play last year versus Virginia with
TJ on the right side, and we had kind of
seen on films sometimes those boundary safeties will trigger, and

(01:08:24):
I just knew the time was right and it's a
great play called great execution. Bryant sold it really, really well,
and you know all I had to do was just
kind of sell it for a little bit, get the
guy triggered and and delivered.

Speaker 10 (01:08:35):
But it was it was a great game planned by
our coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
So final thaing from Kay Club and it took him
back to his legs and just you know, when he
feels like he can create opportunities with his legs because
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Success he had a year ago.

Speaker 12 (01:08:49):
I think that there's been more opportunities to throw the
ball than for me to you know, scramble and make
something up with my legs so far that that I've
missed than more throwing opportunities I've missed, and you know,
running opportunities I've missed. So you know, me being able
to sit in there and deliver the ball is something
that I'll continue to get better at and just wasn't

(01:09:12):
good at Week one. You know, I feel like I
was really good at it last year and just didn't
wasn't very good at it in Week one and just kind.

Speaker 10 (01:09:19):
Of what it was.

Speaker 12 (01:09:19):
And you know, I don't blame my whole play on that.
I don't think that was the whole reason, you know
that the game ended up how it was. But it's
definitely something that I need to get better at and
did get better at last week, and I was proud
of that and sitting in there and delivering some strikes
downfield and sitting in there.

Speaker 10 (01:09:37):
So just keep getting better at it.

Speaker 12 (01:09:39):
You know, I don't do that in practice, and those
kind of plays just happened. I think about, you know,
the long scramble last year or Stanford and stuff like that.

Speaker 10 (01:09:47):
Stuff just kind of happens. You know, you don't really
plan for that and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
So the club quick breat We'll come out with more clubs.
Sports Talk on Fox Sports Radio fourteen hundred. Right after
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(01:10:12):
out all the Nike Dry Fit Polos, all the fantastic gear.
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well at Alumni Hall where Tiger fans shop. All right,
So we were talking about this Georgia Tech Series earlier
with Tim Ray and kind of talked about some of

(01:10:34):
the streaks and all that well. As Tim and I mentioned,
or as I guess Tim mentioned. For the Tigers their
attempting to win their tenth consecutive game against the Yellowjackets,
dating back to a forty three to twenty four win
in twenty fifteen. That would extend Clempson's longest streak all

(01:10:54):
time in the series. As well, the Tigers are attempting
to produce a ninth all time winning streak of ten
games or more against a single opponent in this game.
And here are the teams in which Clemson has done that.
By the way, Game Cocks, you're not on this list.
I thought you would be. I'm not gonna lie to you.

(01:11:17):
When Clemson stretched that thing out of what seven games
before Shane Beemer came into Death Valley a couple of
years ago and pulled the upset, I thought Clemson was
gonna push that thing out the ten consecutive wins in
the series. Ah missed opportunity and certainly made me look
like a dumb dumb in front of our fine feathered friends.

Speaker 10 (01:11:36):
So you could continue to peek over the fence at
the best radio.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Showing the nation.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
But Clemson.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Has or had a ten game winning streak against wake
Forest from nineteen forty to nineteen fifty. The Tigers currently
have a twelve game winning streak against Boston College dating
back to twenty eleven. Clemson currently has a fifteen game

(01:12:07):
winning streak dating back to nineteen forty four against Presbyterian.
The Tigers had a fifteen game winning streak from nineteen
seventy seven to nineteen ninety one against wake Forest, which
that also sort of blows my mind a little bit
to think that Wake Forest never beat Clemson in football

(01:12:29):
until I was almost in high school, while simultaneously, a
team on this list that we're gonna get to in
a minute was in the midst of a longer losing
streak against the Tigers. Clemson also currently has a longer
winning streak than that against wake Forest. The Tigers have

(01:12:49):
currently won sixteen in a row against the Demon Deacons.
Clemson's third longest winning streak all time is nineteen games
dating back to nineteen thirty two against the Citadel. To
present day, the Tigers have not been beaten by the Citadel.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Citadels have

(01:13:11):
a current winning streak against South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Yeah, your name.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Number two on the list of the longest all time
winning streaks in Clemson history twenty nine straight against Virginia,
and that was an undefeated streak. Tigers were twenty nine
and oh against the Cavaliers all time from nineteen fifty
five to nineteen eighty nine before the Cavs finally got

(01:13:40):
a win in that series and then Furman. The Tigers
have a thirty two game winning streak against Furman dating
back to nineteen thirty eight, which is an active streak.
So of these, this is probably another indicator about like

(01:14:04):
Dabo Sweeney and his success. Of these, five of them
are current streaks, and looking at it, one the Wake

(01:14:26):
four streak, the Boston College streak, the Georgia Tech streak,
and a seven game winning streak against Virginia Tech. All
of those that have come under Dabo Sweeney starting them,
and I don't know what the next ones look like,
but there is There are six other teams tied at

(01:14:53):
six games apiece in terms of losing streaks or Clemson
winning streaks, whichever way you want to look at it,
and I would assume some of those are also Dabo Sweeney.
You might remember the last time Clemson went down to
Georgia Tech. It was an absolute annihilation, seventy three to seven,

(01:15:16):
the largest margin victory in conference play in Atlantic Coast
Conference history. I don't remember what year Jeff Collins got fired,
but I would imagine all the waffle house in the
world couldn't heal those wounds.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Seventy three to seven. That was ooh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
I just remember that game getting so lopsided so quickly,
and I think that's a prime example of the reason
that so many of you are kind of skewed in
your thought process about how good Clemson is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
I really believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I think some of you are so so skewed in
what a football team, a normal football team looks like
because of things like that. And you know, like Tim said,
that was a strange game. It was COVID season. They
called that game from the road. But I mean when

(01:16:19):
you watch that team, just that that Clemson team just
go up and down the field, you get accustomed to that.
That becomes the rhythm and the pace of it. It's
it's almost like if you watched basketball at Arkansas when
Nolan Richardson was the head coach and then they get
a new head coach and he's not pressing and they're

(01:16:40):
not playing up tempo. Maybe it's like UNLV and Jerry
Tarkanian and and I'm not saying that Clempson is not
scoring because they're not playing up tempo. These these teams,
these Clemson teams and players are good, but they're not
as good as those other ones. And I've said this
the whole offseason. When they projected k to be the
number one pick in the draft. Remember my thought I

(01:17:02):
was like, wait a second, Deshaun Watson was the number
one big and hit the NFL Draft. I certainly would
not think the K clinic gets better than Trevor Lawrence either,
But yeah, I mean at this point, I think it's
like temperature. It's relative. It hasn't been great this season

(01:17:26):
so far, but I still think your mind is skewed
by how good it once was. Final segment, when we
get back, keep it locked.

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
What have you done for me lately? It's a fair question.
Just don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Don't forget history.
Lucky for us at Clemson, the answer to the questions
what have you done for me lately? And what have
you done? Always are the same. We win.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Final segment on a Thursday. College Football Thursday Tonight, Man,
I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
College football, Baby, what it's hard to be alive?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Oh Man seven thirty, ESPN, Wake Forest host NC State,
A little a sec action for yet, Brad, go check
that out tonight. Five games tomorrow, as I mentioned, six
thirty on the Big Ten Network, Indiana and Indiana State,
seven o'clock on the ACC Network, Syracuse host Colgate, seven

(01:19:25):
thirty on ESPN Tomorrow Night, Houston hosts Colorado. Look out
for Colorado, not in a good way. They are one
and one after losing to Georgia Tech falling thirty one.
That excuse me beating Delaware thirty one to seven. Now
they'll go to Houston where the Buffalo's are four and

(01:19:46):
a half point underdogs. I don't I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
This Colorado roster.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
I like Dion, like what he did a year ago
with Travis Hunter policies, like the things that he stands for.
Don't like this football team. At nine o'clock on Fox,
Arizona hosts Kansas State. That is a huge game for
Kansas State. Don't wanna lose your third game of the

(01:20:17):
season in the first four weeks after being a top
twenty five team.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Ooh man, no way.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
And then UCLA hosting New Mexico at ten o'clock on
the Big ten network, And you know that got me thinking,
what is the hold up on a Big twelve network?
Like remember when Texas was in the Big twelve they
had the Longhorn Network. But why would there not be

(01:20:47):
a Big twelve network when there's an ACC network and
SEC network and a Big ten network? And I get it,
Like I think you know when we talk about the
comparing the Atlantic Coast Conference to the Big Twelve, I
always think the ACC is the better league. I think
because of Clemson. I think historically because of Florida State

(01:21:08):
and Miami, the Atlantic Coast Conference is the better league,
especially once the Big Twelve lost Texas and Oklahoma. But
the fact that that league doesn't have a network is
another slap in the face of why. I don't think
you can take them as seriously as you should take
the ACC and the SEC and the Big Ten. And

(01:21:31):
I don't deny that the SEC and the Big Ten,
in my opinion, have better football powers than the Atlantic
Coast Conference. But for the Big Twelve not to have
their own network in this era is shocking. Shocking that
they don't even have their own thing that's just streamable, right, Like,

(01:21:52):
just make it like your Hulu, make it like your Netflix. Hey,
it's the Big Twelve network, sign up for it. I
would have to think that that would be profitable. Why
worry about putting it on And I'm not saying you
got to carry your football games on there? Okay, that's
one thing. Maybe you could shake some of that inventory though,

(01:22:15):
to those networks or your little personal Big twelve network,
But how is that a thing in twenty twenty five?
Beyond bizarre? Tomorrow we'll give you our prediction on Clemson
and Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Don't forget.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
We'll probably be joined by Will Van Dervoort and Tommy Bowden.
Always great to catch up with Coach Bowden here on
the program. And if you missed it, tomorrow morning on
our website, we will have the full interview that we
did with Chad Morris, along with some highlights from that interview.
That's the other plan, and I think this one, we're

(01:22:52):
gonna give this one away. We're gonna let everybody hear
that one for free, but then the articles movie forward
will be premium. And if you want to catch that
audio exclusively outside of the podcast, you are either gonna
have to listen live to the show or get the
podcast because I am gonna put that behind the paywall.

(01:23:16):
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Speaker 11 (01:23:28):
So you could continue to peek over the fence at
the best radio showing the naked.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Of course, the biggest game in the country this weekend
is in Knoxville, as Georgia and Tennessee prepare the face
off in a game that could tell the story for
one of those teams in terms of how this year
is gonna go. Georgia did not look good this past weekend,

(01:23:56):
much like Clemson did not look good this past weekend.
Is it a one off or is there something more
serious in Athens? We'll find out three point thirty on
ABC is when that one kicks. The other game that
I think people are gonna be tuned in to see
is South.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Florida and Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Remember South Florida is currently ranked eighteenth. Last weekend they
beat Florida. They opened the season with a victory over
at top twenty five rank Boise State. They're two to
zero with two top twenty five wins and a chance
to get a top five victory this weekend. That game's
on the road at Miami, which isn't It's not the

(01:24:36):
worst venue to have to play in there at hard
Rock Stadium. Not exactly a fired up affair. All right,
We'll be back to talk more about tomorrow. At four o'clock.
Until then, it's always I'll take care now and go Tigers.
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