BB25: (11/9) Season Finale Recap

Alex, Emma, and Allison recap the season finale of Big Brother 25. #BB25

Episode Transcript

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Big Brother, Brother, Brother Brother, what's going on? Gang? It
is the season finale recap of BigBrother, twenty five years past, the

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Gravy Broods, alex, Emma andAllison for one more time this season.
And it's been a minute. Wewere in Mexico, so we didn't really
get to recap last week. That'son us. But we're back. We
have a deserving winner, very deservingwinner. Congratulations Jag. Everybody applause,

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We're not applause. No, you'redisappointed in the outcome of tonight. I
just saw a tweet that says itfirst, this certainly was a finale in
which a winner was crowned. Yes, I agree that that's No, I

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think those are the accolades. Imean, did you think Bowie Jane deserved
to We got Bowie James gonna win. I mean I would would have had
the most in the house. No, I I think that I went into

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the night really like it's it wasso stupid the game moves up to this
point, so like it was ifI'm just upset with it, it's not
a good season. It was sogood at the beginning it and then it

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was just like it came down tothree people the winner was completely evicted,
unanimously evicted. That's what makes itso juicy and so neat is it?
Yes, three people were totally evictedand brought back. I mean, it
is a little cheap of the game. I agreed, but and I was

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like, what I did think thathe going into the evening, I was
convinced Matt was gonna win. Wetalked about it in our little text chain
before that, like after the roundtable, it was for sure going to
be Matt. And then oh,Matt's answers. I mean because that,

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okay, that was a classic caseof like Matt just absolutely choked. Emma
had told me, like while wewere watching it, She's like, I
don't think he knew. They hadquestions that got asked like all right,
cool, we're just gonna hang out. And what I made was my I
made a lot of moves, andmy biggest was saving Jack. If I

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made a lot of yeah, andlike, no, there was no leader.
I did this. We made ateam decision. It was us.
And then Jack was like jackubec,actually here's the reason I was leader.
Here's anything I did and he can't. He kept like just running out of
scheme and he'd be like and yeah, and yeah that's how I yeah you

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know what else? Yeah, no, that's it. Uh yeah. I
feel like Jack's best gameplay was nottelling Matt the questions were going to be
hard hitting. I think he knewabsolutely he prepared a little and think that
he's like put that like that wasan intentional thing that like sorry, so

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high right now. Well I lookedat their feelings, it was like,
all I was it intentional or wasit just that like nobody it's like this

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was a season of super fans andso to have like this one recruit that
knew fuck all about it, LikeI don't think that anybody even thought about
him not knowing that there were questions. I I'm sure like in prep for
production was like, okay, sowe'll set you down, we'll answer the

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question. But I'm sure Matt waslike, oh, they're gonna ask me,
like what my favorite moment brother was. Yeah, he knew. He
seemed better prepared for this speech.Yes, speech port of it. It
was like he knew he had todo a speech. Yeah. And I
want to say, on the feeds, I saw like the recap that I
was reading was like the jag waspracticing his speech. At one point yesterday,
I wonder if Matt was also somewhatpracticing one, because his speech is

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pretty good. Yeah, like untilhe stopped talking, and that was the
problems like he had, Like likeI just gave a wedding speech at my
brother's, like my brother's wedding lastweek, and I was like I had
bullet points in my head, butI kept running out of steaming points,
like just write it down, idiot, and like you're gonna be good and

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then you'll have it, and likethey don't have the ability to just write
shit down to their brother house.But you could tell it was like,
ah, fuck, what else didI have? Ready? Like heal,
That's me in every job interview whereI like start really strong on a question
and then I'm like yeah, andthat's that's it. Sometimes when I start

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talking, I don't know where Iwas. I don't have a very good
job. And Matt lost, soit's not a good strategy. Team always
follow through. But yeah, likebut then Matt had a good speech and
Jags just like was again like Jagwas very like I don't know, I
saw people seemed like they might havebeen the wrong way by his speech on

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on Flitters, but it was likenot wrong, it's like you are here
because of this, You were herebecause you were here. It was I
think that's what he needed after playingsuch a cowardly game, because for people

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to own up to like what theydid to you. Yeah, and you
could tell his was also like hehad practiced it. That wasn't like a
oh ship they like they think thatI didn't claim anything that I did,
so I need to really make itsound like I'm doing it. Like that
was a practice speech, you couldtell. So he planned to take accountability

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for everything that he did, whichis good. I think it was like
I think the like aggressiveness just likemade up for the fact that he played
so safe once he like when hewas in the house, and he gave
a good reason for it. Hewas evicted and had to like realized that
nothing in this house like it wasso flip floppy all season. So you

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can't like be like, okay,you're gone and blow up your game with
that person and then somebody else goes. That's the true because like you just
said, he was evicted and broughtback, and so for him to be
like I couldn't tell you beforehand,that I was fooling you out because nothing
was set in stone until you wereliterally on the other side of the door,
out the door. Yeah, forsure, genius. Yeah. And

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then just I thought that him beingable to tie each one of the evictions
to somehow him having a reason why, and then Matt being but I saved
Jack. But Jack's biggest thing waslike, I really owe it to my
boy Matt, because that Matt I'mnot here, he already disarmed you.
He's already taken away your your onething. And then Matt's like, yeah,
that was my man, right,and then Matt being like, if

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I didn't bring back Jack, Iwould have been to be that saying I
would have just floated. I wouldhave kept going because I didn't have strategy.
I didn't have a plan. Ihooked my hitched my wag into this
guy who did have a plan,Like, would you have been fun though?
Because that's my final two? Buthe'd still been the jury pretty high

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up there. It's to four orfive. Yeah, but I feel like
if you're comparing to being in finaltwo to not being in final two,
it's not fine. No, Iagree, Okay, but he also said
I want seventy five thousand dollars ina girlfriend. Nothing could be better,
like nothing can beat it. Wronganswer, wrong answer, you know fair,

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He's just happy to be there.Also, I don't think he has
a girlfriends. Just mind what isthe Q tip? What was the Q
tip? I don't remember. That'swhat she made her little shrine out of
that. He was so annoyingly upsetabout out America for destroying even though like
at the end he really he learnedthat it was izzy, like she made

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it out of Q tips. Itwas like a heart that she made.
I just like she just posted somethingon Instagram about like she's wearing Jags shirt
and is like, seem this mannever met a man so awesome, and
like this is she's chasing Clout rightnow. She got to write an h

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O H letter because she went alongwith this. She like visited his mom
and took picture or I don't knowif his mom visited her. But like
she stayed relevant after being the secondperson evicted. That's true, which is
hard. Are you guys surprised?And bring Luke back this time? Like

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you think that I forgot bring itback? Just like, hey, remember
that time you said that racist thingand then remember that, did you see
the like I guess, I don'tknow the video that he just put out
where it was like he was Idon't know what like platform its on originally,
but it was like him saying thathe was evicted or he was kicked

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out because there was an HR complaint, Like that's what it was. And
it wasn't that he used the Nword. That it was because somebody complained
to HR. And then he saidand it was Corey, which is so
interesting to me. First of all, if it was Corey, fuck,
yeah, I love that. Yeah, and if it but like also I

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don't think that if HR comes toyou with a complaint, they're like,
so this person by name complained.That's true, Like I don't have a
real HR being a teacher, Butlike, I don't think that's what works.
Probably they saw you on the camerasaying it, and we're like,

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yeah, yes, I can't saythat. The whole segment about how he
got kicked out because of what hedid. Yeah, and there were petitions
online like immediately after because everybody sawit happen live for pretending like he didn't
hear it. Yeah for one,Yeah, that was just I mean,

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I figured they weren't going to bringhim back after dejected. You know,
it's funny. One thing I wroteabout Blue that I didn't like was that
she was obviously like talking with somebodyin the crowd full time, but she
kept doing too me that like animelaugh where you're like it was quit doing

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that, stopped she did like thirtytimes. I feel like she still didn't
know Sirien and Jared was the Jaredor Serie was his mom. I honestly
no, she did she because sheI think she said something to I think
in the house she said something toSerrien before she left that was like,

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hey, I know this. Idon't know honestly, but that I was
serious so mad. I feel likeshe thought it was the first time she
like faced it. Maybe she feltthat Jared drank like gaslight her and thinking
that she's the one that told her, and so like maybe she maybe she

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thought that she guessed like Izzy didand not that he just straight up told
her. I don't know, becauseshe didn't even look like she's the kind
of person who be like, yeah, figure it out instead of like me
and like playing cute and koy.Because I feel like she was still like
Oh yeah, I guess I didn'tknow that. Yeah it could we possibly

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call her koy no no. Anytimeshe was slightly mentioned, she was full
voguing. In the true two BlueAppearances Two Sets of Gloves, Yeah,
it was like she's she's like Rileywhere she's just like I'm just gonna do

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it for the cloud, Like isit Kirsten on Survivor this season where with
with the Eyes or Kendra, Likeshe just like and you're like, stop,
we get it, You're just tryingto get like some screen time,
Like what are you doing? LikeI do think she's funny, though I'm

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not saying she's not funny. Ilike her, but like Blue is just
the annoying of that. We werelike, at least you're quirky, like
Blue is just like being obnoxious aboutit, like, oh zoikes, Katy,
Katy Perr, I'm over Blue.There's a difference. He Blue.
For a minute, she was reallyfunny, but it was just for like
this it was really really really badand then funny and then just then really

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bad, I guess, and thenit was like she was there was a
period of time where like she wasmaking fun of her own catchphrases for it
and that's funny, fun and thenshe like bought into it again and it
was like, I mean, katykitty per girl, girl, are you
serious? No weight girl. Itwas like, stop saying that. Every
talking. She stopped saying that thedr the whole time. I feel like

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she's always like yes, yes,and so like we're doing this, yeah
and this. It's just it's alot of hand motions. Yeah, just
ch Angela, and the chat says, luckily we never have to see her
getting You don't think she's gonna beon the Challenge, you are insane.
I think they're going to have aback of Reindeer game. I think she

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would do Raideo games over the challengebecause could you imagine her in a hall
browl or like the stick wrestling,Like the challenge is physical, and she
might be strong like she did wellon the walk Off, Like I'm not
saying she's weak, but like Idon't think she's aggressive, but they could

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throw her and dared as like theylove doing the like well they dated,
like they do with Tyler and Angela, and like Blue would on the challenge
because she would clap chase and sheprobably an early out, but like her
and Jared and the challenge together andbeing like wow, like when they inevitably
break up, like they probably will, I think, I think it's gonna

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be Miley, my Matt and Rileytoo, and it's going to be the
awkward like, oh, like Icouldn't break up with him because he was
on the show in the house andI was at home, like, oh
no, because he's dead. Ifeel like that's that's I mean, it's

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a horrible reason. But I feellike she would like feel how obligated too,
because she also met his mom andshe was like thank you. You
know, I only imagine the conversationwas keeper being sweet to my boy while
he's having a hard time on theshow, and then she's like, well,
I can't because I'll lose my cloud. Do you think that her little

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like message to Matt at the end, do you think that that was like
that she knew that that was comingand that was her plan of what to
say, because it sounded it feltlike when Julie like threw it to Riley
that she was like wanting her tobe like, well, you mean and

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like to make an official there,and then she just went into this like
in a house of whispers. I'mjust so proud of you. Yes,
And then she said, and we'lltalk about that later. Yeah, Yeah,
conversation he's been wanting to have,which is we're gonna be friends because
I'm into Jag because he wants moremoney because yeah, now you're only safe.

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Yeah, I mean I would behappy for her and her to stay
together if that's what it's going tomake that happy, but not if she's
just chasing cloud. I don't loveher. And on a side note,
not I don't love him trying topin anything against anybody or try and like,
don't take this the wrong way,but do you think that like low
Ki Matt kind of like when heplayed the like I could be the first

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deaf winner of Big Brother. Helike when Jagg then was like I could
be the first sequince of Big Brothers. Like fuck, he has a card
to play too, damn it.He has a first insert whatever player of
Big Brother to win, Like,he gets that card, it's a god
payment. If it was just fuckinglike Bowie the the first Australian winner,

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she could have done that. Notas cool. Yeah, I don't know,
like either one of them smokes meat the end with that with the
card and twenty I mean like nineteenthwhite guy consistency. I guess I earned

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it. Sure. Yeah, Jackwent to that quickly, and Jack didn't
go to that quickly. Jack,you mentioned it quickly in the like the
because Matt mentioned it in the questions, because speech the first deaf winner,
and then Jack speech with a littlechunk, and then I could be the

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first. But he kept talking abouthow well you know this is a house
of whispers and all that I couldn'treally hear. So you know, I
was bringing that up where it waslike good point, good points, good
point, Okay, fine, that'sthat's fine. Those really the best points
he was bringing up in the questionsegment and then he led with that.
But then dag once was like,you know, as a seek, I
tried to come in and I triedto play with a moral game. I

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tried to do this. Yeah,and then Jack wrapped it again at the
end of the by the way firstSEQ where big Weather card dropped. Yeah,
I think that when Matt played thatcar, that's that feels terrible to
say. When he played that card, I feel like when he mentioned it
and he was talking about how hehad to put more into his social game

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because he was at a natural disadvantagethere and still had a really strong social
game. I feel like that wasa really good point he could have argued,
but he didn't go to in depthwith it, like he just left
it there. And then it waslike, but that's the only thing that

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you can say about anything. Andthen also you're you just also happened to
play a big brother. Yes,that's true. Yeah, and Matt just
continuously bringing up like he was aJag as you're sitting next to Jag,

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like what you were the literally guythat was dragging you to at the end.
No, No, it wasn't draggingme either. We didn't have a
leader, a leader. And thenJag would be like, and here was
I. I was the leader?And that's the question referred to dragging Matt.
Did you drag Matt? They didn'tput it politely, no, And

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I kind of liked that. Iliked that Blues question said this was cowardly.
I like, like, I wantto know honestly more about that jury
roundtable because doctor Will said it gotso key that they had to take several
breaks. I feel like doctor Willjust says that also said that they left

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with the consensus who they were allvoting for, and then he also then
later in that same interview, saidhe had no idea who they were all
going to vote for. Within thesame article with the same interview, It's
like, so you know, butyou have no idea. I got it.
I also could tell America was fangirlingthe whole time. She was just

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like I love that, Like Ireally get I get that. Like there's
some downside, like I've seen likethe take that like when there's too many
super fans playing, it kind ofruined because everybody kind of knows what to
look for, and you know peopleare just like, oh, I'm at
the Big Brother House. I reallyam the winner this way, But like
I do love getting to see somebodythat appreciates shit like that, like the

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appreciates just getting to be next todoctor Will, where like Matt is like,
huh, FINALI where it is?Yeah, am I gonna hang out
Josh Dummel. I'm gonna take thatprice because I think I'm literally hanging out
with Josh Dummel, Like it's likea beauty And just like when Steve won
his season, Jack is being beinga big fan like that, Like it's

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cool seeing those will go for aCorey win or record like that, and
so like it makes me happy thatJack does get to win selfishly over so
it was just kind of like arecruit. Yeah, for sure. I
think I would rather watch a fullsuper Fan season then have a bunch of

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recruits. Now. The only exceptionis I do think that it'd be interesting
to see what happened if every singlehouse guest was a recruit and had like
never seen the show before and theylike don't understand because like they're gonna have
to come up with whatever strategy worksin that house. I think so like
that would that would be really interestingto see. It would be like literally

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starting Big Brother over again. Itwould be like a new season two.
I would like that. But yeah, all or nothing. I think that
the past few seasons we've seen likea big reason why recruits are have ruined,

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like not ruined, but like kindof ruined the show. It's not
fun when they don't like there islike a cult following for the show,
I guess, and it's like cultfollowing me because it sound like it's like

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not super common. Honestly, thisseason, when I've been talking with people,
like just random people. The Iwas getting my hair done and somebody
was like, oh, what doyou doing tonight? And I was like,
Oh, Big Brother's coming on,so I'm gonna watch that. And
she was like, oh my god, you watch Big Brother. And we
talked about it for a really longtime, and then like the girl that

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was doing hair like right next tous started talking to us too, because
like it's I think it's not everyonethat watches it, but I think it's
a guilty pleasure of so many people. That's how we have this podcast.
As it was like, dude,you watch it, just like what you
said, and it's like this isa podcast for like us that just well
I wanted to talk about it too, and I would also like to discuss

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what that. Yeah, I thinkcringey things like the time more, but
like we make fun of the showlike that's that's the beauty of Big Brother,
where it's like I kind of hatethis. We look he hate watched
this show for large portions of seasons. Yeah, it's it's a really serious
show about strategy. Like I waslegitimately pissed about the Rock, Paper Scissors,

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legitimately pissed about it, and Iwas like, I think I touched
it off that one. Had Iknown that, like he said on what
rock paper? It was just likeyou lost my vote. Fuck that.
We're right, you know we're notdoing rock peckers. That you fucking got
to the final h o h andchant risks that on the champ. Fuck

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that No, So like that legitimatelypissed me off, because like this is
such a game of like strategy andgood like smart thinkers and manipulation. Also
of getting insulted while sliding down agreased ramp. Yes, like it's a
wonderful game. A hot dog watchinga competition replayed that one on the ass

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Kicker. Yes, after the nineto eleven sixty minutes special, Yeah,

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should we run that world? Wealready got going love. Do you think

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sixty minutes two something for him?Yeah, we don't need to mention it.
Let's just fart all of It's likean anniversary of it right now.
I worry about definitely, yea nextweek. Just make a part and always
remember the falling. Those they gaveall seven rounds, all gave some,

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some did give all all right,and these guys gave Now guess who parted
a big brother. Can you justimagine God forbid, like you watched the
sixty minutes specially because you like lostthe loved one and you're like, oh

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my god, coming up next,it's that good time, so overcome with
like emotion and like overwhelmed. I'mbig previously Cameron, what the head of

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household cam run? But yeah,so like we like that, like fans
of the show realize that it's like, yes, very strategic and also dumb
as hell, and that like thatis the part where like we like the
we love like having the chat elementof this because then like we just get

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the bitch about every episode. Idon't know, like we had to do
a podcast on this. Okay,well, when we thought Happened was gonna
happen, nothing cool got done Andme, it's just because we're so good.
Next yay chee cheek? Is youknow it's gonna happen? For happened?
That's true. I don't know.The season had just like of all

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the season like we had done.I thought it was a good season overall,
like one of the best first halfsof any season I've ever watched.
I think it could have ended asstrong if it wasn't one hundred years long.
Yes, it was way too long. As soon as we killed it,
zombie, we killed it. Yes, as soon as we hit there

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was a full month where no onewas evicted. Done. It's true.
So we when we were in Mexico. Uh, there was another couple and
they were my big brother and hewas like, well, we haven't watched
it while since Cameron's been evicted.I was like, you know what,
I have no idea when that wasbecause it has been so long until it
happened, wasted and then in betweenlike the first time he was evicted and

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like second time he was evicted,wasn't it just him? Yeah, we
want to spoil it, so wedidn't want to be like which one.
Yeah, sure, so yes,the momentum went yeah, I think,
yeah it could have. It waslike easy left. Izzy being done was
really I was a feed killed.That was it because she wasn't like that

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stopped with the powerful like just thegosp. It just kind of became at
that point and I love that Ezzywas the reason behind. What did they
call it? Was it Wednesday orthey had like a name for Wednesday,

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Wednesday, Waffle Wednesday? Yeah,yeah, Twitter called it waffle Wednesday,
because it was like, Okay,it's gonna every single and it was busy
behind it every single time because shewas so paranoid. And if we do
the exact opposite of what we plannedall week, well here's some points and
they're like, well, I don'tknow if she bringing out some good ideas,

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sometimes it works, sometimes it didit. Yeah, so like her
leaving and then very quickly afterwards wasthe zombies, and it was just like
you could have brought her back asa zombie and I would have been fine,
Yes, that would do so muchbetter. I don't I get why

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they extended the scene to because ofthe strike. I understand that, I
absolutely get that, but like ifthey had ended the three weeks early,
like if they had made this seasonthree weeks shorter and we had evictions every
single week, and like you don'thave the zombie week, you don't have
the reverse just rerun it back week, or you don't have the canceled the

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vision. I mean, you don'thave the canceled the viction week. Jack
Jaggs to win this game exactly.Yeah, it wasn't that you build that
well because that bird a week,bird a week, so you're a racism.
Also, we didn't have the racismthis year. That's big. But
if we ended this season three weeksearlier. But I don't see how that

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hurts CBS so much, although Idid see like the fucking clip show was
the number one show at its timeslot on it, so like, you
know, what they're doing is gettingratings and like historically clip shows at the
end of the year, they fuckingsuck. This was a pretty entertaining clip
show for the Whip Show. Itwas a good cast. I like the
cast. It was a good castoverall, as like personalities a fake that

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there were a few really good gameplayers and once they were gone, it
was like, yes, yeah,I like overall as a season, I
think it was good and I wasreally excited for most of it. Huh

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you're to be minus? Yeah,yeah, I find it that like our
worthy seasons for sure, his firstseason the great season. It's probably it's
so long ago, no I know, but I'm trying to say, like,
if you if you were like giveme an a plus, give me
like what what the top tier wouldbe, it would be that. I

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really season twenty Tyler and Casey thatwas probably not an A plus but that
was like I would say, BlueList was yeah, but it was a
it was a bad. It wasnever back and forth. It was back
and forth pool. No, No, it was not back and forth because

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it was so bad. But Levelsix made them think it was back and
forth. Yes, it was entertaining. Yay, it was entertaining, and
you were always like, his levelstick is gonna pull it off, and
then they would do it and you'relike, there's no way they're doing it
four weeks in a row. Yeah, they do it. And then it

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was like that was the drama ofit where you were like, there's no
way catchphrases came out of that season. Yeah, I would probably give that
one an A A. Yeah,A minus is fine, but like this
is a B minus. It wasan A plus A plus start. I
would say, I wouldn't hate tobe plus plus. I wouldn't not allow
that to B plus. So aswe were finishing the episode, I dug

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into my my drawer from finale forfrom premiere night, and I got I
had I didn't post. Jaggs said, also, one of my favorites,
I think Cameron was. What wasthe other favorite I picked? I picked
American Player. So it makes sense. Also, AFP could Stanford Alexis nailed

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that and then I said, cooldude either out pre Jerry or could win.
So genius over here nailed it,nailed it because he was not out
pre Jerry. And one sweet Mattcould go far, won't win nailed it.

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Nailed it, literally went as faras you could go without winning.
Luke racist didn't write that that wouldbe really funny if that I thought Luke
would get in a relationship with Riley. I wrote, yeah, the word
nothing has never seen the show.Yeah, I didn't really have any I

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hated Haysom's laugh that lived up.I did say that Cameron is not going
to be good at comps, though, and that was wrong. That's an
interesting take because I don't know,look like, look at that goofy guys.

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I don't know if everyone was justbad at comps or they were good
at comps. I mean, Ithink was really good and I think Jack,
but like, I think it wasa mix of both. I think
that they probably were good to somestandard, but I do think generally most

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of them were just bad at comps. I think they were pretty bad at
comps. Like would Jack have brokenand held this record on another season.
No, probably not, probably not. I mean once Cameron was at like
when you when you look at it, the Marphia yuah la Marfia as Bowie
Jane called it, one of themost dominant alliances ever if you look at

(36:10):
the point that was formed, youlook at the point that that was formed,
and you just look at compounds aloneweeks ago, like it was technically
it was a while ago. Technicallyit was a while. They didn't final
five. Uh. John did saythat he they formed the final three and

(36:35):
when Bowie won our wage, thatput Cam up hm okay, so that
it was kind of a bullshit alliancewhere like Matt and and did the Marfi
are at final five? Right,okay, But when you look from the

(36:59):
Cameron one to Bowie was so thatwas Bowie's Bowie's situate just comp wins alone,
like dominant alliance, the three ofthem. Yes, they were competing
against sixty year old women. No, but I'm just saying like that was
like odd strategy. So when you'resaying like I mean, I don't I
don't know, like maybe not thebest cast, but like that you you

(37:20):
only playing against the cast, You'regoing against the people were bitching about the
cast being too young. I hadto skew the ages, so sometimes you
get the sixty year old b inlike the age really I like the age
range on this season. I justthink the and like bullshit? Did win
like something? Cops? Do youfind almost the most situation. I honestly,

(37:45):
had she been in the final hh the third part of the HHMS,
it would have been hers you can'tstop that girl, the tybreak yeah
them, Yeah. Julie would havejust been like, all right, we've
got a tie, so I needyou to pull the boards and write congratulations
on your age wage Bowie j Whenshe said that when they were commercial,

(38:12):
she was like, we're gonna haveanother twist, didn't you guys just both?
I think secretly she thought maybe therewas twist. It was like this
season and this season only third placeis first place? Because where would she

(38:37):
say? I know, because Ihonestly, when they showed the little video
of Danielle, Frankie and Brittany,I was for a half second and they're
like putting things back together. Iwas like, are they perfursing time?
Are they the twist that they're aboutto replay the whole fucking season. The

(39:02):
second she was like, something's goingon in the house. It's like,
oh God, it's them. They'reback. And then I thought, did
they film that? Did you?Did they filmed it the same day they
filmed it. They just came backbecause they were wearing different ships there.
But I think they took them likeout, probably that like h o h
they're outside. Yeah, I don'tknow, they had to get them out

(39:30):
of the house. Oh know.It was that's just me thinking about would
take ahead. I assume they neverthink ahead, so there's no way they
would have thought to bring like filmtwo segments in the same day. Yeah.
No, I feel like the ReindeerGames in the Winter Reindeer Games just

(39:52):
got approved, Like it feels likelike last week for them to be like
rushing all this ship on us,so they didn't have any advertising. Would
like had to put them in alockdown somewhere and done this, or like
maybe it's while they were doing yeahthat while they were doing the like two
hour h o h. Yeah,because if you're not there, you're locked

(40:15):
up in the h H room,right, Yeah, So yeah, it
probably is an h H lockdown andthey probably brought him in that yeah,
so, I mean I do thinkit was recent because I I feel like
Frankie didn't just look different and likehe was weary different things. Yeah,

(40:42):
like there was more of a mulletgoing on to the bottom, like curl
at the bottom. Though it wasa fancy pearl nancy mullet business in front
and the formal galla in the back, a formal party of formal hodown in

(41:06):
the back. Well what else?What else do we have? I feel
like we've kind of touched a littlebit, and I think Jag is a
deserving winner. Maybe not the winnerwe wanted, but like that's my biggest
maybe just's like you didn't deserve thatat all. And like like if Bowie

(41:29):
Jane and Jack and they all hateJack, that that makes me mad.
I think I popped it on thelike the Facebook post and I was like,
at this point, I'm just teamchaos and like what is better than
team chaos and it being a fuckingBowie Jane as the winner? Like,

(41:51):
I I do think that she potentiallycould have had an argument. I don't
know, necessarily. I think thatshe probably would have argued it better than
Matt did. Yeah, I dotoo, because that's what she's especially with
Like her whole fucking job is makingclosing statements and yeah, yeah, like

(42:15):
I think that she would have hada better speech than Matt, I think,
and that would have given her abetter chance. But obviously world would
have had a better speech than Matt. Sandy Cheeks was the probably smartest person
in making about them true. Sheis everyone's favorite, real, I just

(42:37):
do I feel like we all hadcontinuously told herself was the last month,
like, if it's Matt and Jagg, there's no chance that Jag gets that
Jade to vote for him, Andit was kind of like, I mean,
it is Matt large responsible for that, I think, but I also
think he can't say Jag wasn't responsible. Jag was absolutely nails on every single

(42:57):
thing. He had to be thatentire question part. Yeah, and we've
seen win and lose that multiple times. They were wanting, Yeah, it
was like show put your name onsomething, and the one thing to put
his name on was really something sereneto do. But I think Corey and
America both like the game, getthe game, seen the game, and

(43:21):
would have are still probably leaning towardsJack always just because they knew he was
the leader. But did want tohear from Matt just to solidify their decision
for Jack. We voted for matterJack Allison. Those speeches and questions,
Jack, would you have if wehave minus and speeches? Would you have
gone? Going into it? Ican't unhear his terrible answers, so that

(43:47):
makes it hard. But I justlike, could he have a good argument?
Yes, he was everybody is mosttrusted for a very long time.
He obviously could have won more compsand didn't. I think that that was
he He's right, he laid low. He realized he was going in a
six' three freakin deaf olympian andminimize his threat level. He was everyone's

(44:14):
like Teddy Bear best friend. Isaw that, and I fucking did because
I also have the same thought andmanaged to I don't know, like if
he could have argued it, Yeah, I think he could have taken it.
I think that Jag overall deserved towin. He was making the moves
to win, but before tonight,before the questions, he hadn't claimed any

(44:39):
of his moves to give himself theaccolades for it. So going into tonight,
yes, I would have gone thatbecause Matt at least knows what he
did and was nice to people andhad a really good social game. He
was never nominated until he was theonly the option literally, so like,

(45:04):
uh he, I think it washis to lose tonight, and I think
he lost it. So like youguys know that I'm a big I put
a lot of value in winning comps, and I think going into it he
was evicted, but then he didthings he Kolby Donaldson it where he just
sucking. I don't get that referenceKobe Donaldson Survivor to Survivor where he won

(45:30):
so long ago the period then butlike Survivor, you know I just didn't
have a period. No, genuinelysorry that took me bike. He where

(45:57):
he was like I had functioning body. Had to save himself or put himself
in a position of power, andhe did that over and over and over
again, even after being evicted,and no one never been a theyd admit
it to the end and to bethe first person to do that, to
get to the end, to winso many accounts like I don't see,

(46:17):
like Matt didn't do anything to meto like be better than that. I'm
not saying that Matt didn't have anargument like when you like Jagged, literally
every time he needed to win Vido, one veto or had somebody's in power
so he didn't have to win Vedoor he won itituation and controlled what happened.
Basically his whole speech. He wonhis way to the end, and

(46:39):
I was like, Matt also doone things, but like Jag won a
lot of things. He didn't knowenough to them, but then he did
at the very end. I thinkgoing into it, I would have put
a Jag either way. I didnot think the jury would. I thought
that because we were trying to gothrough the vote earlier to day, Like
I just thought, like Sie andFelicia, I was like, there's no
chance we get that, Like thatwas that was pretty true. But then

(47:06):
we were kind of like, allright to go on this. We don't
know. I figured that she wasclose to with Jag, and I thought
it kind of walked her by beinglike, no matter what I'm gonna do
this, It's like no, no, no, you have to threaten your
fucking vote. At the end,she should have threatened her vote yesterday and
she would have got the seventy fivedollars. I don't know. She did

(47:27):
tell him last night, she waslike, you know, like she basically
told him, like, you beatme, I lose to either of you.
You beat me, you will nothim. Didn't say you won't beat
him, but she was like,you probably won't be Jame's personality is she's
just chipper and chipper. I thinkit's the exact person word to describe her.
Yeah, I do think that Iwould have been his. I think

(47:51):
Jack's way of talking to people comesoff really terribly sometimes. So if in
the like final like decision where you'reabout to be the very last person a
victim, it's you're about to getthird place and you're not gonna win.
If I'm being told, hey,I'm gonna evict you and you're not gonna
win any money, but you're stillgonna vote for me, I'd be like,

(48:19):
Fuck, do not tell me whoI'm voting for. You can tell
me why I should vote for you, but like, and I hope you're
proud of me, love me andvote for me. I'd be like like,
no, don't tell me what todo. I think he knew he

(48:40):
was talking to Bowie Jane and youcan say those things to her. I
hate it. I hate it.I hate it like thanks, well,
the he he was like laying onhis eyes closed, and she because Matt
was sleeping in the opposite in theother room, and then they were sleeping
in the scary room and she waskind of talking to him and he had

(49:00):
cut his eyes was like yeah,very dismissing them alone because he can't like
he can't communicate with Yeah, Imean final three, we're cross number party
every fucking day. Yours are goingoff from making a deal. Yeah,

(49:25):
yeah, I mean it's not anothergame. It's really not on the game
like that bade him in the assthis season, and just like he didn't
have any like where Jag put hisname on several things. They're like Jags
do a lot more things than that, for sure. Yeah, I think
that Jag was in a lot moredanger than Matver was the entire time.

(49:47):
Oh definitely. And I do thinkthat, like you're right, you said,
like you really love like the compwins and really value those. I
do typically value the social game andlike the strategic and like manipulation part of
the game more so, like aI think that you can win without Wendy

(50:07):
Cox. I think like if youare still able to like orchestrate things without
having to get the blood on yourhands. And like like when Bowie put
Cameron on the block, that wasJAG's doing and Jag was not. Hoh.
Jag did not win. Ho h. That was his move. And
I think that you can do that, and you can do that well,

(50:30):
not that I think that Matt didthat. Yeah, and I didn't think
Yeah, you know, I thinkJag thought about the game every single second
of every single day. And Mattthought about it some days, didn't think
about it somedays, thought about itsome days, And that makes me really
mad. Yeah, I Like that'smy point is like before I think that,

(50:51):
like the jury looking at this beforehearing jags like speech and answers tonight
could have been like did he happento this? Like he's Clayton all of
our viction, like and our goodbyemessages. He's claiming it was us,
but like, how on earth doeshe actually think he did it? And
like just left all these answers whilethey're realizing, well, Matt was a

(51:14):
really good soulcial that's never been adanger. While having questions about Jack,
Jack had to come at them withvery specific examples stick and he did so
he out of the two of them, he absolutely deserves to win. I
don't think that he is the best. I saying it because he did make
it to the end. So likeif you win, you kind of have
to be the best big Brother player. But like I think that in another

(51:36):
season, there would have been otherpeople at the end, if that makes
sense, Yes, he would have. This season, he persevered and he
got through and he was awesome.Yeah, he got the second chance.
He got the second chances they neededto get the second chance. And like
you can also look at it,like, I know Matt got to play
it like Dave you, but likeyou saved the guy that's staying next to
you. So like you said theguy, you shouldn't say who's idea it

(52:00):
was? It was JAG's social game. Yes, yeah, and honestly,
Jag knew that and should have playedthat. The only reason why you saved
me was because of my relationship withthree, and he did it. I
would have been more on his side. But I do have a complaint about

(52:22):
Jag not knowing the game in acertain aspect. Who the book is going
to spend the entire season studying daysbecome everything, while every single time you

(52:43):
talk to Julie, She's like,it's coming first week and not met like
not study that it's so in yourfamily. Yeah, but I mean Bowie
wasn't gonna win. We all Bowie, like, I do you not study

(53:04):
that? Tell you not something thatyou study that's like for your teacher gives
you a review for the test andhighlights and like I remember, uh but
I don't remember it was high schoolor if it was college, but I
had a teacher that would while wewere like going over reviews, would say,

(53:25):
I care you know, and thatwas on the test. Yes,
Like it's like this is that information? Like I care you know that this
is comic week and then not fuckinghighlighting it right moving Maybe to be fair,
I don't think any of the finalthree would like we're memorizing that stuff.

(53:47):
I know, And I think thatthat's absolutely well because you know who
was memorizing that. I bet America, I bet, I bet to read,
I bet like, yes, Idon't think blue but like she's unless
she was like, oh, yes, I vote like this during this week

(54:12):
out my outcum for the comic versewas this, so I know that we
did vote. Yeah, that's whatI wore my so long pants. She
was like, boys, I waslike, just get to it. Yeah.
I figured she was going to talkabout herself. But I'm glad you
Yeah. Yeah, that was that'sthat was the complaint that I had about

(54:32):
this was who the fuck is goingto have information spelled out to them and
not remember it? Absolutely. Also, the name of the fucking competitions was
so obviously one of like in thedifferent like come on, come on an

(54:57):
hour. It took me an hour, an hour, Bowie an hour and
a half longer, am I Didyou have any gripes? No gripes me
cranky. No, We've just hadsome I mean, we've had good seasons,
but we've had m They're just theseason started so high, like it

(55:22):
was a ten out of ten season, and that's just like it's not a
bad season. It's not a badseason. It was just but it was
like it just we had some ofthose electric weeks, a big weather ever
for the first half, and thenzombie week. It was cool for us.
It was zombie, yeah you wereit wasn't on Halloween. We were

(55:46):
kind of getting that burnout part ofthe season. I felt, I feel
like, just having to keep upwith all the coverage of it, and
it was kind of nice to havethe week, but then it was like
but now, like what now,what's happening? And they didn't do the
following week and then and for sureit was just slowed down and then it
wasted a lot of time and itmade us feel like, I don't know,

(56:07):
I personally just like I was gudas mad at like CBS, but
like, do you think we're stupid, Like we're not gonna wait out?
Like yeah, I think that inconjunction with the fact that it started so
late, and I understand that itreally affected my schedule as a teacher,
but for everybody else it was probablyno different because you like I have summers

(56:31):
off, so I can watch thefeeds so intensely in the beginning, and
then like when you get to theburnout, I can stop watch, like
I start stop watching the feeds asmuch. But it was like I was
already in my classroom when it started, so I was like I didn't ever

(56:52):
have that moment of like, whoa, I can be up until four watching
the feeds because there's the fucking California. I will say, I miss fights,
I miss people not being afraid tobe canceled. I know the world
we live in and we'll never getback to old, classic awful Big Brother.

(57:15):
But this was a good one forwhat it was. You know,
Jack did backstab a little bit thereand lie. Yeah, and then literally
would immediately claim it as exit interviewsor whatever, good buy messages. But
it was good for twenty twenty threesolid seasons. Yeah. I was just

(57:38):
gonna say, we just have Americalie to someone's face, and when they
called her out, she just keptgoing and was like that's true. It
was like, yeah, I wantto say things, but yeah, everyone's
worried about their integrity, which Iget. You know, it's a tough
world to live in. And yeah, I think there's a difference between a

(58:00):
Big Brother fight and like worried aboutbeing canceled. Like if the fight it
gets racist, then yeah, butwill turn on you and make sure you
get fired if you are. Yeah, someone who's doesn't like someone even though

(58:21):
it's for a just reason. Ifthe Internet likes that, then you can
no longer touch them. Yeah.But also the Internet apparently loved Cameron and
I can't stand him as a human. Yeah, that is wild to me.
I like that we didn't even talkabout it. Two favorites, Appreciason
two varite pre season first place,you had good picks the draft, the

(58:50):
draft on the draft, Dagger Risky, rats to Jag, to everybody it
tuned in, everybody in the chatright now and we got Ashley Thomas and
Todd Moondo. I'm not scrolling upanymore, but everybody else in the chat.
It's been in the chat being shoutout to Bean even though you're not

(59:12):
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We appreciate you guys. You guysreally like, like we said earlier,
this is a guilty pleasure and it'sway more fun because it's not just
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but it's amazing, Like it's atotal little family. We can kind

(59:35):
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Allison, thank you for all ofthe time that you spent doing like update
recaps kind of with us, allof the nights that you spent instead of
doing other things hanging out with usand talking about this show, and thank
you for letting me use your deskhere and doing this night that when I

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hang out all the time again.So we'll keep the group chat going.
We'll keep the group chat going.And yeah, let me know when you'll

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