Rich On Tech Radio Show 001 - January 7, 2023 - Rich On Tech

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tech and the crowds return to Las Vegas for CES
twenty twenty three. One major airline now giving its passengers
free Wi Fi. Apple Fitness has some new ways to
get you in shape for the new year. Plus your
tech questions answered? What is going on? I'm Rich d'miro

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and this is rich on Tech, the show where I
talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about,
and it is the place where I answer your questions.
Now you're probably wondering what happened to Leo. If not,
thanks for knowing who I am, and please let's keep
it that way. Leo Laporte has retired from this radio

(00:41):
show and after nineteen years, he finally gets to enjoy
his weekends. And now I'm the new guy. That's right,
You've got me for your guide for all things technology.
My naming once again is rich Demiro. I'm the tech
reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles, and now
now I'll be hosting this very show every week. If

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you want to do some research on me, you can
find me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at rich on Tech.
My website is richon Tech dot tv. You are in
for something special. I mean, every day, you know things happen,
things change, But this is the first. This is the
very first episode of rich on Tech. I've never been

(01:25):
more excited. This has been a lifelong dream of mine.
Uh if you've listened to my podcast over the years,
this show is going to be largely similar to that,
except that didn't have you as a live caller, which
has been the thing I've wanted to do for so
many years. You get to connect with me. I'm going
to reveal the new phone number for the very first time.

(01:47):
Are you ready here? It is eight eight eight rich
one oh one. That's eight eight eight rich one oh
one one triple eight seven four to two four to
one zero one. Write it down, commit it to memory.
This is the phone number you need to know if
you need some tech help and guidance whenever, I'll be

(02:08):
here for you. So give me a call. We'll get
some of your questions in today's show. We'll see if
we can help you out, and just have fun. This
is going to be a back and forth. This is
not just me talking to you. This is you. You
are part of this show, and you're a big part
of it because without you, there is no show. You
have questions, I have answers. We'll get the you know,
we'll get this all figured out. It's going to be fun.

(02:30):
My plan is to make this the most useful show
you listen to each and every week. I'm gonna pack
it with tech tips, reviews, cool new apps and websites,
plus information to keep you safe from scams and other
online issues. I mean, think about it every day. I'm
covering this stuff for KTLA. I'm seeing a lot of
stuff come through. I'm going to a lot of things,

(02:51):
talking to a lot of people. I'm going to bring
that information right here. I'm also excited to bring on
interesting guests to talk about a wide range of topics.
It's going to be different, it's going to be you know,
I find tech to be a wide swath of things.
It's not just one thing. Tech is all is gadgets,
but it's also how do people do their jobs with technology?

(03:13):
What apps do you use to stay organized and to
stay focused and to stay productive. That's the kind of
stuff that I want to explore in this show. All right,
So a little bit about me. All Right, I'm just
a regular person who loves tech. I've always loved tech.
I mean, I've been thinking about technology since I was
a kid. I remember waiting to get on the internet,

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this thing called the Internet when AOL was a thing,
and AOL was sort of this, you know, it was
part of the Internet, but not really. And I waited
every day as a kid for that little Internet link
on AOL to light up. That's how nerdy I was.
I'm originally from New Jersey, right outside New York City,
and my typical job throughout the last couple decades has

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been a TV reporter. And I started out as a reporter,
as you would in a small market Yakima, Washington. I
moved my way up to Shreveport, Louisiana. Then I went
to Los Angeles, then I went to New York and
then I came back to Los Angeles. And in that
time where I really cut my teeth as a tech

(04:15):
person was at cnet in New York City. And Wow,
what a fun place to work. I mean, to go
from looking at a website like ce neet to actually
being on a website like cenet. I got to see
it all, I got to do it all. I was
there for the launch of the iPhone in New York
City in two thousand and seven. It was such a
phenomenal time. I could still remember being in the Apple

(04:36):
Store in that launch day like it was yesterday. In fact,
the song that you just heard, the lead singer of
that song was inside the Apple Store and I got
to talk to him for a little bit. I mean,
just what an incredible experience. Now, I've been covering tech
for more than a decade at KTLA TV in Los Angeles,
and it has been so much fun. I wake up early.

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You know, I talked to people. I've traveled around the
world doing my job, to countries including China, including Japan, Ireland, England, Spain, Portugal,
I mean, you name it. I've seen tech in different places.
And what I love about that is that, you know,
we grow up here in America and we see how

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we do things, but when you go to other places,
you see how other people do things and it could
be a little bit different than the way we do stuff.
So it gives you depth, it gives you perspective. But
really my secret weapon is you. Your emails, your messages,
your responses to my TV segments. Help me know what
is important, What are you thinking about? What do you
want to know about? I mean, I don't have all
the answers. I don't wake up and just know everything

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there is to know about technology. I explore and I
figure it out, and I also know the ways to
figure this stuff out, and that really helps me out.
I'm going to do my best to use my knowledge
to help you out. I'm on a journey just like
you with all of this stuff. You know, I get
a gadget for Christmas and I got to figure it out,
just like you. I've got a wife, i've got two kids,
I've got a full time job. I've got a lot
to juggle, and you know, reading the manuals has never

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been my forte. I kind of like to figure it
out as I go along. And in twenty twenty three,
I'll be figuring out how to get organized. Like digital
photos and files, they've become a mess, just like yours have.
I bet I've got Google Drive, I've got Apple Cloud Storage,
I've got my phone. I've got all kinds of things
in different places, and I want to figure out how

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am I going to dupe? How am I going to organize?
That's my goal this year. Also, how to become more productive,
how to keep tracking my notes. I've been journaling on
a daily basis, which is really fun? What's the best
to do list? App I've been trying to figure that out.
My hope with this show is to inspire you. It's
to make you smile, it's to make you think, it's
to make you laugh, and overall, just make you enjoy

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our time together. That's really what it's all about. You're
giving me your time. If that's not fun, then you
probably got to go somewhere else. It's got to be
fun for this to be interesting. Now. I just got
back from CS twenty twenty three. This is the big
tech show in Las Vegas. I've been going to this
for over a decade and this year things were back
in full swing. Last year, the year before, it's been

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a little rough for the show, obviously because of the pandemic.
But this year it was. It was pretty incredible. There
is so much to see. I did not get to
see it all. But you know, people complain about ces.
They say how big it is, they say how annoying
it is, how they get sick, how they get tired,
how they have to walk. I will embrace every bit
of that because at the end of the day, this

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is where you see the stuff that I'm going to
be talking about for the next year or two. This
is where I get to see my friends. This is
where I get to see pr folks that I connect
with over email and I just know them by an
email account. This is how business gets done in person.
I get it. We've been remote, we've been hybrid. You
could do your job from anywhere these days. But when
you're in person, you actually get to connect with a

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human being, and that is still the most magical experience
we have as humans. You're listening to me right now
through some sort of speaker or headset, and we feel connected.
But if you see me in person, it's a whole
different world. You get to say, hey, rich you know,
I like what you do. I see thanks for this,
I like that post. It's just a different connection that
you can't have any other way in this world. But

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I'll take this too, because this is really fun. At
CS always the TVs. They're getting bigger, they're getting slimmer.
Eight K still a buzzy thing. We also saw wireless TVs.
I drove to CES because I like driving. I like
my time. I like that time in the car to
just kind of enjoy and you know, disconnect from the world.
I mean, it's a couple of hours where I can't

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check my social media while I'm driving, and it's kind
of a glorious thing. Is CS a ton of work? Absolutely?
Is it all worth it? One hundred percent. I even
got to go to a concert. While I was there,
I saw Imagine Dragons, and you know, everything you do
there is for a reason. Imagine Dragons was presented by Dolby.
It was in their theater that they have at Park MGM,

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and it was presented and Dole me at most. So again,
everything you do just adds to that perspective that you
have as a journalist, as a tech person, and quite honestly,
if you haven't seen Imagine Dragons, very inspiring concert. I
had a fantastic time. I went with my photographer Luis.
It was late, we were tired, it was after a
full day of work, and we really really enjoyed ourselves

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and I can't say how inspiring that concert was. I
never realized just what an impact someone like that can
make on me. All right, coming up, we are going
to take your very first call at one eight eight
eight rich one oh one. Again. The phone number to
the show is triple eight seven four to two four

(09:43):
one zero one. That is the direct line for me.
If you don't call, I've got some questions that you've
emailed me. Again. I'm at rich on Tech on social media,
my website rich on tech dot tv. Coming up, we're
gonna talk ab the airline, the major airline that is
now giving free Wi Fi not just to select passengers

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but to all passengers, and does that mean we're going
to see more of that? Plus Apple Fitness, I'm going
to tell you about their latest workout, which I don't
think I've ever done before, but you know what, maybe
I'll try it. My name is rich dmiro. You're listening
to rich on Tech. More of the show after this,
plus you your calls coming up. Welcome back to the show,
rich DeMuro here rich on Tech. It's a whole new

(10:28):
show here on the radio, taking your calls, talking about
technology and just breaking down the news of the week.
We're going to talk about CS some of the cool
things I saw there. We're going to talk to Brian Tong,
mister CS, one of my good friends who hosts the
show every year. He was there with me in Las Vegas.
We'll talk about some of the cool stuff we saw

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and most importantly, we're taking your phone calls. The phone
number is triple eight Rich one oh one eight eight
eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.
If you're thanks joining once again. My name is Rich Demiro,
new host of this radio show called Rich on Tech.
All right, let's do this. This is another little piece
of history.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Here.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
See if I can reach the phone here, we're going
to take our very first caller, and it is Mary
in Downie. Mary in Downie, you are on with Rich
on Tech. How's it going?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Good morning, Rich. First of all, I would like to
say congratulations on your new show. I've been following you
on KTLA for years.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh well, thank you so much. I can you hear
the excitement and the nervousness in my voice. I was
surprised I didn't get a notification from my Apple Watch
saying your heart rate is a little higher than typical.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
No, you sound really confident, just as you always do.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Thank you so much. What can I help you with today?
What's going on in your life?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So my question is, when I'm in my car, my
cell phone, my android connects to my car and it
says do I want to auto connect to the car's wife?
I don't have it on auto connect. I'm a boomer.
I would like for you to explain the difference between
my celf, WiFi, my car and Wi Fi, or even

(12:11):
at work I connect to a hotspot. Can you explain
all those different terms for me?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh? Absolutely, This is a great question, and it's funny.
I was just talking about this yesterday. I was in
Vegas and I was saying how I rarely connect my
phone to the Wi Fi network at the hotel because
I'd rather if I have a good signal on my phone,
I'm going to use my LTE or my cellular or
my you know, five G signal. So you've got a
couple things going on. I mean, you've got cellular, which

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is the connection between your phone and your carrier. So
whether you have Verizon, T Mobile, at and T or
one of the smaller carriers out there, that's a direct
connection between your phone and the tower. You've seen them
all over town, you know. Sometimes they look like trees.
Sometimes they just look like a bunch of speakers on
a pole. That's a direct connection. That's also the most
secure connection you can have between your phone and the network.

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So if you're doing anything like banking, anything really private.
I always recommend turning off Wi Fi and using just
the direct cellular connection. Now, when you get into your car,
your car could have two connections, So the Wi Fi
connection in your car, your car may be equipped with
a cellular connection. A lot of the new cars are
equipped with that. And that cellular connection means that you

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pay a monthly fee or it's somehow included in the
price of your car, and it is connecting to a network.
And the benefit of that is that your car probably
has a higher powered antenna than your phone, which means
you're going to grab a signal in more places with
the LTE or the five G connection in your car.
And so your car is physically or I guess wirelessly connected.

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If it was physically connected to the cellular tower, you
wouldn't go very far. But your car is wirelessly connected
to the cellular tower, and that is giving a cellular
connection to your car. And this can power things like
streaming music. It can power things like streaming radio, and
also the maps in your car and anything else that
your car may use, you know, software updates, all that

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kind of stuff. Many cars today, I mean this is
going back many years have those sort of connections. Now,
why would you want your phone to connect to the
Wi Fi that your car is emitting. Well, you might
want a stronger connection in more places. You also might
have a limited data plan on your phone, and maybe
you want to use the data plan that's on your car,

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So those are some of the reasons why you might
want to do that. The other reason is, you know
you can use features like Android Auto wirelessly, so if
you're not connecting to your car, Android Auto would not
be able to connect wirelessly to take over the screen
in the center console. So that's definitely another reason why

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you'd want to connect to the Wi Fi in your car,
even if you're not using a Wi Fi connection per se,
But that's the way your phone is is communicating with
that center screen to take it over. Now, at work,
this is a tricky topic because I'm also not a
big fan of connecting my phone to the in work
Wi Fi. Not that I'm doing anything wrong at work,

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but quite honestly, companies do have tracking software that they
can potentially use on the Wi Fi networks at work,
and depending on how your Wi Fi at work is
set up, it could be very secure and you may
have to accept some sort of what's called a trust
certificate to actually use that Wi Fi, or you may

(15:35):
have to use a network that is very insecure and
open network. And the reality is these days Wi Fi
is pretty secure for the most part. Unless someone's using
a sophisticated device to sort of sniff out what's happening
on the network, you're probably going to be okay. But
I just rather there are so many implications of when

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you join a Wi Fi network, how you can be
tracked and followed and monitored and notified, and I just
would rather stay out of all of that. So typically,
unless I'm doing something that requires a big download or
a big upload, I'm just staying off the Wi Fi
connection at work. If you have an unlimited cellular pro
A plan on your phone, why do you need to

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be on the Wi Fi. It's something to think about.
And I'm not saying that you have to, you know,
disconnect from your company's Wi Fi today, but it's just
one of those things. Maybe ask some questions like, hey,
how is the Wi Fi set up, or what's the
limitations or what are you monitoring for? Because you know,
we do a lot of personal stuff on our phones,
and most of it's encrypted so you should be okay.

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But the reality is, you know, they could potentially see
when you come and go to work. They could see
where you hang out at work. They can see when
you connect, they can see when you disconnect, they can
see websites that you go to. There are a lot
of implications of any network that you connect to, and
Bluetooth is very similar. So I think that knowing about
this stuff and being away of it is the smart thing.

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And Mary, I think that you know, just asking these
questions like this is a smart thing because you're curious
and that's always the first step to just being on
top of things. So thank you Mary in Downy, California
for having the very first question on the Rich on
Tech radio show. We've got a lot more in store

(17:21):
coming up. We're going to talk to Brian Tong. He
has a podcast, he has a YouTube channel. He used
to be at Cena and he is the host of
CS for the past couple of years. So we are
going to talk about CEES twenty twenty three and all
the fun stuff we saw with guest Brian Tong. Coming up.
My name is Rich Demiro. You are listening to Rich

(17:43):
on Tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. My name
is Rich dmiro and this is the show where we
talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about.
It's also the place where I answer the questions that
you call in with. Joining me now is Brian Tong.
He's a content creator for technology. He's this year's host
of CS twenty twenty three and an all around nice guy. Brian.

(18:06):
Welcome to the show and history once again. You're the
first guest on this brand new radio show. How you
doing on this day?

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Rich, I am honored to be part of such a
exclusive group of individual and I thank you so much.
We go way back in This is awesome, so I'm
happy to be here. Bro.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Congratulations, thank you. Congratulations to Brian. Brian and I used
to both work at c net technology website, and Brian
is on his own He does all kinds of cool
tech stuff on YouTube and also your podcast where you
talk about all things Apple. How has it been you
are still at CTS right?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
You know, I'm hosting the show, but I'm going to
take a break to talk to one of my good friends.
And we saw each other here, but see us. I
think this year right, last year was a pandemic kind
of recovery year or a transitional year where people really
weren't sure whether they were coming or not. To me,
when I see the boost, this feels like a fool
on CEF. Even the amount of people here the show

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feels like maybe around eighty five to ninety percent of
what we normally get, and I think that's actually a
good thing. There's a point where CS was getting too crowded,
and now that things have kind of changed, there's people
that aren't going to come back to conventions as much.
But I think the energy and also more than I think,
we've seen a lot of companies who during this roughly
two and a half year period have done things that
I don't think they might have done if things were

(19:27):
kind of going year after year iner you know, and
just kind of be more iterative. I think it for
the companies to really be a lot more innovative.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh yeah, and also the breadth of companies, like the
stuff that we've seen, I mean stuff like john Gear, Caterpillar,
I mean a car tech. It's there's so many things
that have expanded now. So Brian is the host for CS,
so you do videos for CS. You kind of get
the inside scoop on everything that's happening there. So you've
really seen it all, and you've seen like the biggest stuff,

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you see the small stuff. So one of the trends
we saw this year is I guess we're going to
have wireless TVs because LG had THEIRS on display and
then there was a startup the name is evading me
right now, maybe you remember it, but they also had
a wireless TV. LG still had a plug the startup
they did not have a plug at all, Like it's
a phone a TV that you reach arge, did you

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see either of these?

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I saw, I got my I got definitely time with
the LG wireless TV. I don't know about the startup
because there's so many products that we're only two men.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
It's like we can't cover everything.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, but you know, with wireless transmission to a TV,
whether or even wireless transmission to a home theater system,
this is honestly been the holy grail for a while
for home entertainment. I remember I've been at CS for
fifteen years now, and I remember some of my early
years there were demos that are done private suite that
were showing off like hey, we have a wireless audio

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system and we have wireless, and they never came to fruition, like.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Hey, they had wireless HDMI as well, remember that. I
mean I remember seeing this, and of course it was
like it was like a little adapter that you put
on the back of your TV and it had to
be I think it's like a line of sight or something.
By the way, the TV that's the startup is called
Displace TV.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Displace, you said, yeah, Displace. And by the way, the
TV apparently has suction cups on the back so you
can just literally stick it anywhere. Now I would not.
I don't know if you've ever used a command strip
on your wall, but mine fall off like once a year.
Stuff that I put up like the year before just
falls off in succession, like all the pictures. So I'm
not ready to use I'm not ready to stick a

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TV on my wall.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Well, I mean you you might not be ready now,
but when you see what LG is doing, you know
they have their own proprietary I guess ecosystem and connection.
The fact that you're sending not just a video signal
and audio signal, but a four K refress rate, which is,
you know, more than enough for gaming. I mean, if
you want hire, sure, most people are gonna actually be
playing gaming on monitors, but now more TVs are getting

(21:56):
higher refresh rates. The big thing here is, though, people
that are really into this whole minimalist design, one of
the biggest things that you always have to struggle with
is wires. These are first world problems, rich, but no
wire a table clutter of TVs right, and can you
imagine just literally mounting a TV now truly no wires.
It would look so clean, so beautiful and get all

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the benefits of Dolby autmost Audio, Adobe Vision Video four
K one hundred and twenty herd Like, this is a
big this to me for the home get or junkie
who's been waiting for this for arguably ten years and
has been told it's coming. The fact that LG now
has it nailed down tells me that it's actually here.
I mean, LG is a brand y. I own an LGTV,
and it.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Will happen because here's the thing. LG showed off the
rollable TV. I think it was like four years ago.
It was like a it went from early prototype to like, okay,
it's really expensive, and then it's like okay, now it's here.
Now it's still expensive, but that's the beauty of technology
is that it does come down in price over time,
no problem. So we will see wireless TVs. It'll give
you this the flexibility to I remember every time I

(22:57):
got a new apartment back in the day, your TV
was determined by where that little cable came up in
the floor, like from the last personally is it? And
now it's like to go from that to just putting
your your entertainment stuff where you want it in your room,
and then your TV where you want it is a
whole bay thing. All right, let's talk about this this
BMW color changing car. Did you get to see that?

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yes, got to see that up close. On The good
thing is that last year they also I also got
to see it up close. This is a concept design.
It's called the I BMW I Vision D as spelled D.
And last year, yeah, last year they they showed it
off as a black and white concept and it was
a wrap on one of their current existing cars. It

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was very geometric, but what it was is like, hey,
we've got a color changing car. It showed off cool
black and white patterns. But this year they wrapped it
on a streamlined car design to really actually take advantage
of these e ink panels. So for people that aren't
familiar e ink, which is like on an Amazon kindle,
you're familiar it being in black and white. There are
companies that make e ink that actually is in color,

(24:05):
and so what BMW has done is essentially partnered with
one of those companies and wrapped a car, but wrapped
it specifically with this car is designed with Queen lines
to allow this ink raped to be just really tight.
It just looks like it's it's been dipped in this
stuff and it's yeah, it's incredible in amazing to see.

(24:26):
I have some video footage that that that'll be going
up about it, but it's captured everyone's imagination. There's not
a single person who hasn't seen it that said they
loved it. I talked to BMW and the person who's
responds her name is a doctor Stella. I can't remember
her last name, but she's been a part of this
project from the beginning. It's been really a true passion

(24:46):
project for her. And she talks about the advances of
even the rap that they put on. If you when
there's cut lines, you know, a car has grooves and whatnot.
You actually cannot cut this ink material too many times
otherwise it pretty much breaks down the electrical signal that
goes through a panel and then would prevent it from
sending a single that allows it to change color.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
So they have to be very strategic.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
In how they wrap this car and where the cut
lines are. It's the most it's the most incredible thing.
But this is not coming out any times things right,
They're still developing more things with it, but she says
she even sees me like, oh, we have more ideas
for next year, don't worry. I was like wow.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
But again, the reality is when we see these things,
we know that they will be coming out in the future.
Sony and Honda working together on their new car called
a FeelA. What do you think of that name? Are
you a feeling it?

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Rich?

Speaker 8 (25:34):
I got a feeler that's a nice gonna.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Be good night, Okay, I'll stop.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Your listeners are just I don't want them to see now.
But I think it's an incredible, fascinating idea where we've
seen the electric vehicle space, you know, for a while,
ben Argue quite honestly dominate at least here in the
US by Tesla. You now have actual car manufacturers who
really have a better fit and finish when we talk
about some of the aspects of a car that are

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that are better than a Tesla, but Tesla has that.
It's like a it's like a technology exhibition, and they
have a better charging network right now, but as time
has gone on, charging networks will continue to grow. These
other companies that are behind, they're actually garnering more interest
because of think about this, right, Honda and Sony partnering

(26:22):
together and then also using a Qualcom ship inside it.
Those are three tech giants basically saying, hey, we need
to work together as a you know, a triple threat. Yeah,
to make something that is special. Like they've seen the
landscape and they're not trying to do this alone.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
They're like, let's work together.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
And that's a big electronic experience.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, a huge deal and it's fascinating and I.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Love the idea that we're seeing more competition in this
electric car space. I think Sony, look, we've got Apple
jumping into the mix. At some point, You've got Sony,
You've got Honda. I mean, we are just at the
beginning of what we're seeing with all this stuff all right,
Brian Tong, thanks so much for joining me. Where can
folks find you online? Real quick?

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, if you want to go follow my YouTube channel.
It's just YouTube dot com slash Briantong br I a
Mtong Twitter. I'm really active there. Brian Tong on Instagram. No,
Stra Tong is You're just gonna have to type it
in and find it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Thanks Brian rich thanks for joining me from CS twenty
twenty three. Brian Tong. My name is Rich Damiro. You
are listening to Rich on Tech. More of your calls
coming up next. Welcome back, Rich Demiro Here, Rich on Tech.
This is the radio show where we talk about tech stuff,
basically the stuff I think you should know about. Plus
it's the place where I answer your questions. Let's go

(27:33):
to Carlos in Van Eyes. Carlos and Van Eyes, you
are on with Rich. Did I get the right I don't.
Did I get the right one?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I didn't know. This is Rick and Lamesa. See. You know,
it's my first day. It's a new job. You know
I've been you know, I've been in my TV career
for a long time, and I still don't know how
to press a button on a phone. But anyway, Rick
and La Mesa, welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
There must be something to do with us. Both happened
the greatest name on Earth Rich.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Now, you know what's funny about having the name rich
is that I get called Rick all the time, even
though I've never introduced myself as Rick. But it's like
one of those interchangeable things, right, I guess, Yeah, I
hear you, So is your real is your actual name Richard? Okay,
there you go. So my family calls me Richard, which

(28:20):
means I'm in trouble if I'm hearing that name. So, uh, Rick,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I was wondering about this five G thing. You know,
I supposedly I'll see my phone then the five G,
but I don't know if it's really using five G.
How on the heck do you see what your phone
is actually using for service?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Good question? Which carrier do you have? Okay? So with
Verizon there's a couple things. So this is a great
question because you know, we've heard so much hype about
five G and what does it mean? So number one,
you know, four G networks are still pretty good. They were,
It's they're well built out. If you see an LTE

(29:02):
on your phone, that means you're still on four G.
If you see five G, that means you're on the latest,
greatest five G network, which is sort of an upgrade.
It's a little bit better than four G. Now what
you really want to look for is this new thing.
This is five G plus five GUW and five GUC.
So you're on Verizon. When you see five GUW, that

(29:24):
means ultra wideband. That means you're getting Verizon's best, absolute,
most cutting edge network, and it's going to be really fast,
Like I'm talking faster than almost all the Wi Fi
networks that you're using. And I've seen speeds that are
just incredible on these UW networks. For T Mobile, it's
five G u C And I was in Vegas over
the last week and T Mobile had a lot of

(29:45):
UC there. Ultracapacity, that's what that means. And it just
means that that's the real, real, you know, the spectrum
that these carriers have been wanting for so many years
that enables them to do so many more things like
home internet, like really basically ditch Wi Fi altogether at
some point in our lives because these networks are going

(30:07):
to be so ubiquitous and so fast and just so
capable that we won't really need that. So how do
you know which icon or which service you're on? On
the iPhone? You swipe down from the upper right hand
corner and then it'll show you in your control center,
you know, Verizon five G, five GUW. There's also a

(30:28):
couple of settings you can look at on the iPhone.
If you go into your settings and Cellular, you can
actually choose which network you want to be on. You
can say, you know, I only want five G or
I only want LTE. And the reason why you might
want to switch networks is because, let's say you're in
a really congested place, like a stadium, and maybe that
stadium is not fully upgraded to you know, these new

(30:50):
five G networks, and so you're having trouble getting a
tweet through or a picture through to Instagram. Sometimes it
might be helpful to drop back to an LTE network
because guess what, less are on it now, because everyone
wants to be on the fancy new five G network.
That's kind of the bottom line with these networks. I
think that the thing to know is that number one,
they're not everywhere. So these carriers are very much still

(31:14):
working on their five G networks, and that means sometimes
you may see a five G signal, sometimes you may not.
You may see a five G in one place, you
may see lt E in another. You may see the
UW or the PLUS or the UC in various places.
Usually at this point, the PLUS, the UW, and the
UC are in you know, city centers, freeways, stadiums, downtowns,

(31:39):
anywhere there's a large amount of people. They've sort of
built out the ultra capacity in those areas first, and
then eventually it will make its way to more neighborhoods.
I know Verizon, I was just talking with them about
this and they were telling me that they're getting there.
You know, they've covered a bunch of the population in
the US, but there's still work to do. You also

(31:59):
may see fluctuations in some of these networks. Sometimes they
work really well. Sometimes you may have some trouble. And
I know that some of the carriers are actually proactively
texting users in certain areas saying, hey, look, we're working
on the towers in your neighborhood. You may have some
you know, some spotty connections, or you may be using
a connection that's from a network that's or a tower
that's further away. So just be aware. I know where

(32:22):
I you know, work on a daily basis in Hollywood. Yeah,
go ahead, Rick, would you want to add.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Oh, real quick, you know I had the big hope
to cut the wire by starting to use five G
for my home internet.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, so did I.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's just like you're talking about the signal that isn't
available real strong in my neighborhood yet.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, me either. I've got I still have LTE where
I live. And it's kind of wild because if you
go down the street, it's got five G and it's
got UW.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
That's exactly what I see, same thing.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
And I'd love to switch to one of those, you know,
either the T Mobile Home Internet or the Verizon. I mean,
they're they're very competitive right now. I think it's like
twenty five dollars a month or something. That seems pretty incredible. Uh,
if you have that signal and people are wondering, like,
wait a second, how can I replace this like wire
that comes into my house with a cellular signal and
power all my stuff. But that's what this spectrum allows

(33:17):
them to do because UW and you see is so
broad and it's got so much power it enables you
to do that.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
So Rick gret question the hotspot.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Oh yeah, it's like setting up a hot spot, except
you know, you've got a better antenna. It's it's more
high powered and so it's just gonna work a whole
lot better. Thanks for the question. And yeah, a lot
of mystery around all this stuff, you know, that's that's
just how it is with with anything that changes in tech.
All right, now let's go to Carlos in van Ey's Carlos,
you're on with Rich on Tech? What's up?

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Rich?

Speaker 8 (33:50):
Congratulations a niche show. Uh, you know, it's better to
free meeting to listen to you on a Sunday, and
it is try to get you on a Friday when
you can do your podcast. But so congratulations on that.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Thank you. Yeah, I know the podcast was you know,
I typically did it on Fridays, but you know sometimes
it was all over the place, just depended on my
broadcast schedule. So the fact that this is a shift
that is a scheduled thing will be a lot better
for many many people. So what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (34:16):
All right?

Speaker 8 (34:16):
So I'm looking at getting a wireless doorbell. So have
you tested any of them that you feel that are
better than others.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, look, you've got a couple of players in
this area. You've got Google with the Nest, You've got Why's,
and you've got Ring, and so I think what it
really comes down to personally, I use Ring. In fact,
I just talked to Jamie yesterday, the guy who started Ring,
and I said to him, I said, Jamie, you did
pretty well, you know, because I remember meeting with him
when he first had his first doorbell, was called the

(34:47):
Doorbough and we tested it at Katla. This must have
been ten years ago, and you know, it was kind
of wonky. It was the first of its kind. And
I said, you know, you did pretty well. You know,
selling too Amazon for a billion dollars. And so I
think Ring, you know, they invented the genre. I think
that they have the most products that sort of work
around it. I think Whys is really good too, But

(35:09):
it just it kind of depends on what other smart
home stuff you have. Do you have any other products
from different companies? Do you have Alexa, do you have Amazon?

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Do you have oh yeah, everything in the house. So
we have a Google Hub you know, we have Alexa
devices all over the place. So you know, my other
question I guess was on top of that is I
guess the monthly fee, you know, because that was my
biggest concern is that you know, you pay for the device,
but then you have a monthly fee that you have

(35:39):
to worry about, right, And.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I think that's why it comes down to the ecosystem
that you want to be in, because if you're on Ring,
you're going to pay you know, the ten dollars or
twenty dollars a month, depending on whether you have their
alarm system, and that will include all of your various
door bells and things like that. Wise obviously has their
own conventions for how they do it, and Nest I
think I pay like twelve bucks a month for that stuff.
So I think you have to kind of pick an

(36:02):
ecosystem and then go from there because once you start
mixing and matching, it's very complicated. Things will change later on,
but that's where we're at right now. Carlos, thanks so
much for your question. You are listening to Rich on Tech.
My name is rich Demiro. We'll have more of your
calls and more news tech news coming up. Welcome, back

(36:22):
to Rich on Tech. My name is Rich Dmiro and
this is the show we talk about the tech stuff
I think you should know about. It's also the place
where I answer the questions you ask me. If you're
just joining, you might be wondering what happened to Leo?
Where is Leo? Well, I hope he's sleeping in today.
After nineteen years, Leo Laporte has retired from this radio show.

(36:43):
And now you've got me. I am your guide through
all things tech. We're gonna have a great time. Today
is the beginning of something new, of something fun, something different.
And I don't know if you can tell, but I'm
a pretty positive guy. I've got a pretty positive outlook
on things. And that's just the way I roll, you know.

(37:04):
I feel like we are all given this opportunity here
to just enjoy, right. And if you go through and
you're sitting there and you're seeing everything in a negative
light and a critical light, I think critical is good.
I think negative is not good. There's a difference between
the two. It could be subtle sometimes, but it's there.

(37:25):
And yes, I am very critical of a lot of things.
And believe me, you should see me try to make
a decision about something. It doesn't come fast. You know,
my wife at the you know, anytime we have to
do something, whether it's book a plane ticket or you know,
just anything at a store, there's a lot of thought
that goes into it. And there's a reason for that,

(37:46):
because I am critical of the decisions I make and
the things that I do and the stuff that I
put in my life. And that's all for a reason, because,
like I said, we get one chance to be here,
and I want to make it as good as possible.
And I hope that you joining me here today is
part of that journey, part of that excitement, and part

(38:06):
of that positivity. We're going to talk about tech. I mean,
that's what this show is all about.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
But you're not gonna hear me, you know, complain about
a lot of things. I mean, now you'll probably hear
me go off some sometimes about stuff. Believe me, if
you've listened to my podcast, you know I get on
a tangent sometimes when it comes to stuff that I
get a little angry about, especially when tech companies push
us into a corner. I don't like that. The phone
number for the show is triple eight Rich one oh

(38:32):
one eight eight eight rich one oh one. You can
find me on social media on Instagram, on Twitter, on Facebook.
What else is there out there? I think those are
the big ones. I am at rich on Tech on
all of those. I'm also the tech reporter for KTLA
Channel five in Los Angeles. So if you see me

(38:52):
on your morning TV and you say, wait, is that
the same guy? Yep, it's the same guy. It's me
getting up early during the week and then here on
the weekends to do this show. So it's a lot
of fun to do it all because during the week
I see so much stuff, you know, come through my desk,
and it's like, now I get some time to really
talk to you about it in depth. And TV is great,

(39:15):
but it's quick. You know, you say that what did
he just say? What was that? Hold on? That looks
really cool? And now you've got think of this as
office hours, Right, you see something cool on TV? Hey,
Rich can I ask you more about that?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
A couple of things happening this week that are interesting.
Apple Fitness Plus this is a great way. If you
haven't tested this or tried it out, give it a chance.
It's the new year. I know everyone's joining a gym
right now. But you know, this is something that you
can do with your phone. With it, it used to
require an Apple Watch, so if you haven't looked at
it in a while, it no longer requires an Apple Watch.

(39:49):
It used to that was like your your ticket in.
You don't need that anymore. You just need an iPhone
or I think an iPad as well. But Apple Fitness
Plus is sort of Apple's online fitness clos and it
of course has a high tech twist. It gives your
you know, data from the Apple Watch if you have
one of those. But it's really well done and I
think this this got me through the pandemic. They launched

(40:10):
it during the pandemic when you know, nobody could go
to the gym. They didn't do that on purpose, It
just timed out that way, and so I started doing
it during the pandemic and it was fantastic. And you know,
I did also the Peloton stuff. But I go back
and forth between Apple Fitness. I think they're really good
for their classes and I really like Peloton for the
actual bike workouts and the running workouts. So you kind

(40:32):
of can choose what you want. But anyway, Beginning January ninth,
that's in a couple of days here, Apple Fitness Plus
will introduce a new workout, kickboxing. I've never done that before,
so you can try kickboxing now. You know, it can
be intimidating to do one of these classes at a
big gym, right. I remember the first time I went
to like a spin class at the gym. It was
so intimidating. I don't think I ever went again, because

(40:55):
you know, how do you clip those shoes on? How
do you do the bike? How do you adjust this stuff?
Like you feel like, oh, everyone knows what they're doing
and I don't, And so it could be really alienating
at a gym to try new things and to even
use a piece of equipment that you've never used before,
because there's always someone else that's like, hey, can I
get on there? I know what I'm doing, and you're
looking around like, am I the only person that doesn't
know what I'm doing in here? So this could be

(41:16):
a good way to try kickboxing. So, starting January ninth,
Fitness Plus is adding kickboxing as a new total body
cardio workout type. You don't need any equipment. Workouts are ten,
twenty or thirty minutes and that's What I love about
Apple Fitness Plus is that you basically it's almost like
a search engine for workouts, so you can narrow down
and say, oh, I've got a pair of dumbells, I'll

(41:38):
use those, or I want to do upper body, or
I want to do lower body, or I want to
do ten minutes, twenty minutes, thirty minutes. It's really fantastic,
So check that out. My favorite are the strength training
workouts on there, because you know, they teach you how
to do the stuff that you're doing and it doesn't
really require much equipment at all, maybe a couple of,
you know, dumbbells. They also have this new sleep meditation,

(42:01):
so I know, sleep is becoming like a thing, right.
I mean it's always been a thing, but we're seeing
more of an emphasis on the health benefits of good sleep.
And I think some of that's partly due to the
wearables that we're seeing, like the Aura ring and of
course the Apple Watch and all the other wearables that
measure your sleep, and so people are interested in how

(42:23):
am I sleeping. Oh, I got a bad night's sleep
last night because I went out all night and I
went bed late, or I got a good night's sleep
because I took care of myself before I went to
bed and it was kind of nice to, you know,
relax without my screen for an hour. So we're learning
that sleep could be good for us. And so with
that in mind, now there is a brand new sleep

(42:44):
meditation theme, and so they've got nine other themes for meditation,
including calm, gratitude, resilience, and creativity. But they're going to
do new sleep meditations every week. So that's a good
way I might try that. I, because I wake up
so early on a daily basis, don't really have trouble
sleeping when you're so exhausted at the end of the day.
He just kind of collapse into bed. But you know,

(43:06):
there there are days when you're like I could use
like a disconnection from the world for a couple of
minutes before I turned down. And finally, Apple Fitness Plus
will have new episodes of Time to Walk. I really
discounted Time to Walk when it came out. It came
out during the pandemic, and I was like, I don't
need to walk to someone talking to me, and it

(43:27):
took me a while. I actually started trying it when
they did Time to Run, and I was like, all right,
running's kind of more my thing. I'm a big runner.
I love running. Let me try running with one of
these audio guided experiences, and I fell in love with it.
It's such a great thing. If you haven't tried it,
give it a chance. But walk is basically very similar.
It's you know, you any you know, you go outside,

(43:49):
you walk. You pop one of these things on and
they're adding you know different. They're not always celebrities, but
they're important people, notable people. And Jamie Lee Curtis is
going to be new She's gonna kick off the fifth
season of This Time to Walk And basically every week
there's a different person that you can walk with and
you kind of learn from them. They play music, they talk.

(44:11):
It's really cool. I mean, if you like the person,
it's like bonus points. Otherwise you learn. Jason Siegel made
famous on How I Met Your Mother, He'll also be
on there. Jose Andres, the Spanish Chef, he'll also be
on there. Cheryl Lee Ralph, she stars in Abbott Elementary,
a very popular show. She will be on there as well.

(44:33):
So again, check it out. Apple Fitness Plus is not free,
but you can often get a free trial if you
have the Target app. They're like almost a Target and
Best Buy are always offering like free trials for this,
so check that out. Otherwise, it's ten bucks a month
or eighty dollars a year for Apple Fitness Plus. All right,
speaking of free tea, Mobile and Delta Airlines teaming up

(44:54):
to give all passengers free in flight Wi Fi. Now
I love this. I've watched Wi fi go from non
existent on flights to very expensive on flights, too cheaper,
like on my last United flight it was like eight
bucks to now free. So Delta sky Miles members will
get free WiFi. Oh there's the catch, you got to

(45:14):
be a sky Miles member. Well, it's free to sign
up and you could actually do it on the plane.
So beginning February first, you will get free Wi Fi.
There's no really no strings here. You'll get to connect
your tablet, your phone, your laptop, whatever you need. And
the best part is if you forget to sign up
for sky Miles on the ground, you can actually sign

(45:34):
up for free while you're on the plane. Now, this
is sponsored by T Mobile. So do we know if
this is something that's permanent or if it's something that's
you know, you know, something that may expire after T
Mobile says all right, we're done. But the reality is
this is amazing. I used to think that the plane
was like the last kind of quiet time where you
can disconnect from the world because you didn't have Internet.

(45:57):
But you know, as I get older and more war
and it's just it's a time where maybe you just
want to be connected and check your messages and do things.
It's kind of nice to have that Wi Fi connection.
So next time you're on a Delta flight, starting February,
first free Wi Fi thanks to T Mobile, you don't
have to be a T Mobile customer. And I think
what's great about this is hopefully, hopefully it'll push more

(46:19):
airlines to offer free Wi Fi. I know Jet Blue does,
but among the major carriers now, Delta is the first
to do that. All right, once again, my name is
rich Dmiro. You are listening to rich on Tech. Coming up,
we're going to take more of your calls at eight
eight eight rich one oh one. Plus, we're gonna talk
about LG's color changing refrigerator. Yes, a refrigerator door, four

(46:43):
of them that change color. You're listening to rich on Tech.
Welcome back to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Demiro and
Angie is in Huntington Beach. Angie, You're on with Rich.
Oh we lost Angie. Sorry, Angie, try to back you know,
still learn how to use a phone. Here. Laala is

(47:03):
in Orange Laala, You're on with Rich.

Speaker 9 (47:07):
I'm Rich.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
Good to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Hey, thanks for having thanks for listening. I mean thanks
for having me on. Usually I'm saying that to the
other person having me on their radio show. Now now
I'm the one having you on the radio show. So
how's it going today?

Speaker 10 (47:22):
Hey, you have helped me so much through Instagram. I
just wanted to thank you for always answering my stupid questions.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
There are no stupid questions there there. Let's just make
that clear. There are no stupid questions. I believe me. Now,
I may give stupid answers, but there are no stupid questions.
In fact, like I said earlier in the show, I
get some of my best story ideas and feedback from
Instagram because I've got so many folks on there that
are like texting me. I call it texting. I know

(47:52):
it's DM, but yeah, it tells me like what you're
thinking about, you know what I mean? Like I may
that may not be something in my life, but you
may have something in life and I'm like, oh, that's interesting,
and I get some of my best tips my reels.
By the way, I'm at rich on tech. If you're
not following me, I think it's kind of fun. Like
I really put a lot of myself on Instagram, So
that's that's kind of what you're talking about is just

(48:13):
you know, it's a It's a wide range of stuff
from junk food that I eat to you know, tech stuff.
So what's on your mind today.

Speaker 10 (48:21):
One of the reasons why I always follow you is
because you really keep it real.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 10 (48:26):
Well that's I mean, so congratulations on this show. I
can't think of a better person to try and fill
Leo's shoes, so put you the best in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Thank you so much. I'm excited for twenty twenty three.
I mean it's a new start. I mean I've been
doing TV for I don't want to say how many years,
but a lot. I mean, when do you get to, like,
you know, midway through your career, start something completely new
and different And TV's not going away. By the way,
people have been asking me, like, wait, are you are
you getting off of you know, KT light?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
No, no, like that's the plan is to do both,
like I'm not trying to, you know, do one or
the other. Like it's I think the beauty is to
do both because it's so fun to have both things happening.

Speaker 10 (49:04):
So well, good for you, Good for you, congratulations cool.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Is there something I can help you with today or
do you just want to get there?

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Okay, there is there is.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
I like to keep my personal living address as private
as possible.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 10 (49:24):
For example, the company I work for, I give them
a PO box.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yep, Okay, they're like, now, what what's Lala doing that
she needs to give us a PO box?

Speaker 9 (49:36):
Yeah exactly, exactly.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
Well, you know everyone has a good human resources company
that keeps everything confidential, right, yeah hopefully, so you know
how that goes. And there is a situation I was
in several years ago that someone got my home address
and it was not fun.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, no, I get it, I believe me. I privacy
is a huge important tenant of life, and it's it's
eroding with the internet. So so correct, what do you
want to do? You want the PO box?

Speaker 10 (50:08):
And what I understand that if someone really wanted to
find out my mailing address. They really could because everything.

Speaker 9 (50:15):
Is out there.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
I understand that. But the USPS is now raising once
again for the second year in a row, the price.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
Of PO boxes.

Speaker 10 (50:26):
The very very smallest PO box, I pay them forty
two dollars for a month.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Oh wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
So I'm wondering what you know about I postal one
which is a virtual PO box, okay, or anything that
I can do well?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
And how much are they charging.

Speaker 10 (50:47):
Nine a month for thirty pieces of items or less?
And you could they scan them in for you?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yep?

Speaker 10 (50:54):
You could go down to the address and actually pick
them up.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yep if you need to, yep. And okay. So looking
this one up, it says over twenty five hundred locations worldwide.
Is there a location near you that you can pick
up your physical stuff from?

Speaker 9 (51:08):
There is actually in a staple?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh oh interesting. Oh that's smart that they kind of
partnered with them. I think it's a great idea. I
think that it's smart. And I actually watched an entire
there's a series about a startup that was doing this,
and you know, this was a couple of years ago.
But you know, the big thing is it's tricky, and
you want to make sure that that address lasts for

(51:32):
a while because it's kind of a pain to switch
your address very often and you don't want to have
to do that. So the way that these work typically
is that you know, you sign up for one of
these virtual mailbox services, They get your mail, they scan
your mail in so you can see if it's important
and if their system is good, you know, you can
just trash mail virtually, like right from your app or
your desktop and say, okay, you can throw that out.

(51:53):
You can throw that out. Oh, that one I actually
need to go grab from the box, and then of
course you may be able to get packages there depending
on your plan. I think it's great. I think it's
something that you should do if you trust the company.
The fact that this ipostal one has twenty five hundred
locations is a good sign because the main thing is

(52:16):
that you just want this to be around for a while,
and they're saying that the according to their website, the
number one digital mailbox service worldwide. Now, the downside is
you just need to know what this plan includes, so
it may not include certain things, you know, and that's
that's what kind of you have to look at for
that nine to ninety nine a month, like, what do

(52:37):
they give you? You know, do you get packages there? Can
you get mail there? I'm looking at this maximum names
per address one personal name. You know, receive first class
mail in packages, So it looks like you can get
all this stuff. Now I'm looking here. It says free
storage is thirty days and that's for mail, and then
free storage for boxes ten days and that depends on

(52:59):
the side to the box, and then five days for
really big boxes. And of course you can probably pay
more for them to forward you this mail if you
don't want to go in, So this is probably good
of also for someone who has like an RV or
travels a lot. I've had a Peo box pretty much
my entire life because I find it to be very
convenient and it's simple and you can give out that
address without worrying. When I publish my book there, you know,

(53:22):
people could come and they could pick up the book
if I signed it, they could just go there and
grab it. So there's many, many benefits to having a
Peo box. I think virtual is a next logical step,
and what you're really paying for is that service that
allows them to scan your documents, and let's be honest,
ninety nine percent of the mail we get physical mail

(53:43):
you don't really need, you know, it goes right into
the trash. And so they're banking on the fact that
most of the mail they don't have to store. They
just scan it. It goes in and you can look
it out on your app and sort of flick it
left or right, kind of like a Tinder for mail.
Do I need this? Yes? Do I not need that?

Speaker 10 (53:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
So great question, la la. I say, go for it
and let me know how it goes, and maybe I'm
going to look into this. This is kind of a
good idea. So cool. Thanks so much for listening. This
is rich on Tech coming up more of your calls
at triple eight rich one oh one. Plus we're going
to talk about LG's color changing refrigerator. LG's color changing

(54:20):
refrigerator coming up on rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here,
rich on Tech. You're listening to the show where we
talk about tech stuff and answer your tech questions. Phone
lines are open triple eight rich one oh one, eight
eight eight rich one oh one. My name is Rich
DeMuro and uh just got back from CS twenty twenty

(54:41):
three in Las Vegas, and so much to see there.
I mean, there's just no way one human being can
see it all. And I was there for a week
Monday through Friday, and uh, you know, I try my best,
but there is just I mean, I think over three
thousand exhibitors this year, not to mention the crowds. Not
to mention, it's spread all of cross Las Vegas. It's
not just in one place. You know, it's in the

(55:03):
convention Center. There's also the new part of the convention
Center that is like a ten minute walk from the
old convention center. And then you've got the hotels and
the hotel rooms and the suites, and then you've got
the ballrooms. I mean there's a lot. I think one
day I did what I do, twenty thousand steps in
one day. That's I think that's a lot. Anyway, don't
worry about me. I thought it was fun to walk

(55:24):
all these things. But one thing I saw that was
pretty cool. LG new refrigerator called the mood Up and
this is just you know, it's look, I don't expect
you to buy this refrigerator tomorrow. But what I love
about stuff like this is it just shows that this
is what's going to happen in the future, Like why
choose the color of your refrigerator when you don't have

(55:45):
to when you can change it? And so the mood
up has four panels on it, and each one of
these panels is an LED screen, so it's not like
a computer screen per se, but it's an LED panel
that lets you change the color. So it's kind of
like a matte finish on the panel. If you don't

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want it to be a wild and wacky color, then
it can just kind of blend in as a standard
refrigerator color, whatever that may be for you and your kitchen.
But if you want to have some fun, you can
choose from twenty two colors for the upper refrigerator and
nineteen for the lower. I don't know why the differential there,
Like why can you only do twenty two on the
top and nineteen on the bottom. I'm not sure, but

(56:28):
the top is the refrigerator and the lower is the freezer.
You can also have themes season Place healing and pop Healing.
Elicits a feeling of well being through the use of
soft soothing colors, creating a calming mindfulness space mindfulness that's
a word we've heard a lot about. I thought this

(56:48):
was pretty neat. It's just neat to be able to
change the color. You can have some fun. Obviously, it
can do different things. There's also built in Bluetooth, so
you can connect this to a smartphone, a tablet, a laptop,
or a PC and listen to music from your favorite
streaming apps, so if you want to, you know, if
you don't have like a dedicated speaker in the kitchen.

(57:09):
You know, people gather in the kitchen when you have
a get together. No matter where you put the your doors,
people always seem to come back to the kitchen and
stay there. I don't know why. It's just the way
it is. It's just the place. It's the one place
in the house that was never intended for people to
hang out in. And yet every single time you have
people over, where do you hang out in the kitchen?
I don't know. That's just the way it is. I
don't mind it. You can stream music. Let's see what

(57:31):
else can you do? You can have notifications from your door,
so if you leave the door open. You know, you've
ever like left your refrigerator door open just slightly, and
it's you know, emitting all that cold air into your house. Well,
now the refrigerator door can blink to let you know, hey,
this is not fully closed. My mom always said that
it costs a nickel every time you open the refrigerator door.

(57:54):
And so I do not keep the refrigerator door open
for very long. You know, I'm not one of those
people that just linger and looks like no, no, I
go into the fridge. I open that door with purpose.
I know exactly what I'm getting, I know where to
look for it, and it's closed within seconds. Because you know,
that's the way I grew up. He didn't leave the
refrigerator door opened very long. It also has motion sensor,

(58:16):
so it knows when someone walks into the kitchen, so
it can blink kind of like a little welcoming blinking
light when you walk into the kitchen, saying like oh, hey, fridge,
I know you're here. I see you. From midnight snackers,
the freezer door can illuminate brighter at night time to
help you guide your way to the fridge. Does anyone

(58:37):
really midnight snack? This is like something that's just sort
of overplayed in like you know, stories and TV shows.
No one actually midnight snacks do they. I can think
of like zero times in my life when I got
up in the middle of the night and got a
midnight snack. If you challenge me on that, gimme a call.
Triple eight rich one oh one. I've gotten up in
the middle of the night and I've watched like an
episode of a TV show, like if I can't sleep,

(59:00):
and I told you, most of the time this doesn't happen,
but if it does, I will get up. And I'm
the kind of person that will just sit in front
of the TV and watch an episode of Seinfeld or
something like. I'm like, I'm using my time, and then
you know, I'll fall asleep after that. But I'm not
going to just sit there and like toss and turn
forever and again. Once the refrigerator is you know, if
you don't want the color, you can just do Lux
gray or Lucks white, pricing all that stuff. Not really

(59:23):
sure on this new mood up TV from LG, but
kind of cool. I'm digging it. I think that some
of the stuff we see coming out is it seems
like it could be hokey, but at the same time,
why not. I think that it'd be kind of cool.
To be able to color change my fridge, especially if
you have people over them. We all have those color
changing lights, or a lot of us do. So why

(59:45):
not Mark is in Houston. Mark, you're on with Rich
on Tech. What's up? Mark? You're on?

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (59:52):
Hey, Rich congratulations on your new show.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Hey, thanks, I appreciate it. What's going on?

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Missed?

Speaker 11 (59:59):
But I think it's pick the right guy for the
to take over.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Oh, I appreciate those words.

Speaker 11 (01:00:03):
Yes, considering a new phone, and I might even switch plans.
And I know T Mobile. I know I'm jumping the
gun a little early in the game. It may not
happen for about a year, but I know T Mobile's
teaming up with Starlink, and I'm just curious what that's
going to do for their service. Are you going to

(01:00:24):
get much better service than other network?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Good question? So, yeah, the idea is that T Mobile
announced this with Starlink, I don't know, a couple months ago.
And you know, the idea is that Starlink has this
nice network that's built out with satellites, actually an Elon
Musk venture, and you know you're gonna get better. I

(01:00:48):
think they said it was just messaging on the phone
at this point, and here's the deal. Like, I wouldn't
put much stock into this right now because there's not
much that they announced that you can do with it.
You know, you may have extra signal in certain places,
you know, and obviously this starlink covers like everything, but

(01:01:10):
the reality is, you know, I think with the iPhone
adding satellite capability to their phone, for most people in
most situations, that's probably going to be enough. I think
that starlink with T Mobile once they get this up
and running, which by the way, is going to take
a while. And also we may not see support from
every phone. Did they announce that they're going to have

(01:01:32):
every phone compatible with this, because it probably will require
a different antenna, I don't know. With this technology, T
Mobile planning to give customers text coverage practically everywhere in
the continental US, Hawaii and parts of Alaska, Puerto Rico,
and waters even outside of T Mobile signal. So you know, again,

(01:01:54):
it would be just messaging which is already available through
the iPhone on the iPhone fourteen with satellite right now,
to anyone has an iPhone fourteen, this is not even
available yet, and it's planned and it's text messaging, which
is great, which Apple is just giving you emergency messaging,
so that's another differentiator here. But eventually T Mobile and

(01:02:16):
Starlink will give voice and data coverage. But that's eventually,
that's like beyond beyond, So this is early thing. I
think that they wanted to build some buzz for this
new feature, and I think it's cool, and I think
it just again goes to show what's coming, but it's
not here. And I don't think that you choose your
carrier based on this. I think that if you want

(01:02:37):
the satellite technology for peace of mind right now, I
think the iPhone is the only game in town, and
the iPhone fourteen models specifically with the satellite over SOS,
and it's slow, and that's probably the way this one's
going to be. It's a slow process to connect, it's
a slow process to send messages. But the idea and
the reality is that it's already saved lives, it will

(01:02:59):
continue to save lives, and we will have connectivity at
this point. If you have an iPhone fourteen, you're pretty
much never disconnected from help anywhere you are in the US,
and that's the idea here with T Mobile as well
in the US and other places that you'll be able
to not only get help but also text people as well.

(01:03:19):
But it's a long ways off, and I think it's
a little confusing because people might think they have this
already or we're on the cusp of it. But with
Team Mobile, they didn't really say what the timeline is
on this, so it's going to be a bit and
I think that you choose the carrier. I always give
people the advice choose the carrier that works best where
you live and where you work. Talk to some folks
and see where those two things are, and that's the

(01:03:42):
best carrier for you right now. If you're upgrading your phone,
good question. Thanks for calling in, Mark from Houston, Texas.
Rich tamiro here with you on a rich on Tech Saturday.
We'll have more of your calls. Plus we'll talk about
the gadget that helps you talk to your pet. Coming up.
Welcome back to rich on Tech Omrich damiro answering your

(01:04:04):
tech questions and talking about important topics happening in the
tech world. Let's go to Angie in Huntington Beach. Angie,
I think we got disconnected your back.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
Hey, Rick, thank you so much. I think I timed
out on my weight. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Anyway it happens.

Speaker 9 (01:04:21):
I'm really happy to be talking to you, and I
listen to you every morning on KTLA or I try
to anyway every time you're there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Oh well, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
I appreciate everything you've been doing. I'm so happy you've
got this program going. Me too. So I am at
the age where I had to get my very first
hearing made okay, and it's it's really miniaturized, and I'm
fased with a situation where I have to it goes
over my ear, and then I have glasses to go

(01:04:55):
over my ear, and then sometimes I have to wear
masks that go over my ear. And guess what happens
to the hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yep, I can already predict. The mask of course messes
with the hearing aid. It falls off, You lose.

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
It exactly, and it's very expensive. And guess what. They
don't have any kind of a tracking mechanism. And I
was just wondering if that's just one of most companies.
Hearing aid companies don't have a tracking mechanism.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Are these over the counter hearing aids?

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
No? No, this is from a doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Oh wow, Okay, these.

Speaker 9 (01:05:37):
Are the real expensive one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Mm interesting and are they Bluetooth or they just standard
like they're not they don't have that, are they? What
do they work with your iPhone?

Speaker 9 (01:05:52):
Yeah? I have an app that connects with it. I
have an Android.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Okay. Interesting. So I mean some you know, some of
the newer hearing aids they have, you know, connections to
the iPhone or Android. You may investigate in there for
a way to you know, and did you look in
there and it didn't didn't say anything.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
I did, and there wasn't any way for it to find
my hearing aid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, that's frustrating. So it just may be that you
don't have that capability in this hearing aid. It could
be something they add with software. I mean, if it's
connecting to your iPhone, that means there is some technology
that could potentially allow it to be you know, for
the phone to know like, oh wait, we lost the
connection to this device, it's gone missing and alert you.

(01:06:39):
So that's a possibility, but it sounds like it's not
there right now. When it comes to like adding a
third party sort of like tracking device to this, I
don't see that being a possibility. The tracking devices are small,
but they're not that small, and there's no way that
you would be able to put something like an air
tag on this or any sort of you know, even tile.

(01:07:00):
They're just not small enough to work with this. Now
on the flip side, the trend we're seeing is that
more and more companies are building what's called fine My,
which is Apple's branded location you know, tracking into devices.
And so it could be that, you know, it could
be as simple as a software update, or it could

(01:07:21):
be simple, or it could be you know, a future
pair that you get. But you said, these are very expensive,
so I don't imagine you're wanting to get a different
style or pair anytime soon, right, you know, it might.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
Be possible for me to get a new phone that
might have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Have you talked to your provider about whether these may
work better? Because there is something there is something specific
to iPhone that's called like made for for iPhone hearing
aids and that may have more of what you want
in there. So have you talked to your provider about
this functionality and whether they have it?

Speaker 9 (01:08:00):
I think I no, I haven't, and I'm going to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, that's what I would do, and just seeing they
may say oh, well, we just assumed you had an
iPhone and you were using that feature. Because if you said,
you know, if these things are expensive and they you know,
they're new and modern, they may very well have this
feature built in that you're just not able to tap into.
Sometimes Android and iPhone, the apps and the functionality with
different devices could be very different depending on how that

(01:08:24):
company codes what you're able to do there. So I
would check there, what are you going to do in
the meantime, I mean, how have you actually like lost
these where you've gone like, oh no, where is this?
Or has it just been like you've noticed that they've
fallen off?

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
Well, one time I found them. One time another person
found them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Oh no, so it was lucky.

Speaker 9 (01:08:45):
Out and I have insurance to replace them one time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Right, But and I'm going.

Speaker 9 (01:08:52):
To talk to my audiologists, because my audiologists really should
know about these things.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah, I think. I think you start there and talk
with them and if they say, hey, look, you know
this is something that may we've seen it, you know,
on only one model, or it's you know, definitely a
trend we're seeing with more and more models. But see
what they say, and they may have a solution. But
when it comes to anything that you can do differently,
there's not really much. I mean, it's it's you know,
and I'm sure if you just got these for the

(01:09:17):
first time, you're probably getting used to them, and that's
probably contributing to, you know, whether you feel them on
your ears or not. And so I think that that's
all probably part of why you've lost them a couple
of times. It's like anything else, you know, you're still
getting into the into it, you know what I mean,
And so it may be a while before you say, oh,
I just hold on, I took off my mask and

(01:09:37):
these things. Where did they go?

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Are they helping?

Speaker 10 (01:09:41):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
That's the important part, is it? Are they helping?

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:09:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Good. That's good to hear. Well, Angie, thanks for calling
on this very first show.

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
I appreciate it well and thank you for letting me
call back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
All right, thanks a lot. I don't know what happened,
but it might have been me, it might have been you,
but we'll just say it was me, okay, But.

Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
We talked and I'm happy about it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
All right, I'll see on TV. Thanks a lot, See bye,
all right. Interesting question. Yeah, I mean that's that's the
beauty of this show is that we can get questions
in a wide range of topics, and I find it fascinating.
The hearing aids, especially the over the counter is really
I mean, the FDA just approved over the counter hearing aids,

(01:10:28):
and so we're going to see a lot more tech
involved in hearing aids and a lot more innovation when
it comes to hearing aids because of that. You know,
this is this is an industry that used to be
controlled by just a few players, and now that pretty
much they've opened it up to many, many different companies
able to offer these things immediately over the counter without

(01:10:49):
a prescription. You know it's going to change things.

Speaker 9 (01:10:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I'm not saying you go out tomorrow and buy these
over the counter. I think there are some things you
should talk to an audiologist about before you put something
in your ears full time or use these, because you
know it's still your ears and it's still a part
of your body. That's very important, and so I would
still consult with a pro before I did something like that. Okay,
something fun I saw at CES this. If you're a

(01:11:14):
pet lover, you're gonna like this story. This is a
device called Fluent Pets. Okay, and I saw this in person,
and you know, look, we all want our pets to
talk with us. We talked to pets, do they always
talk back? Not necessarily. I mean, we can communicate with
them in our own way. But this Fluent pet, it's

(01:11:35):
called fluent Pet connect, allows you to let your pet
talk to you. And here's how it works. So it's
a bunch of these recordable sound buttons and you place
them on sort of this board of interlocking tiles. They
look like a rubber matt almost, and you program this
button to say something in your voice, so you can
say something like water or bone. And then guess what

(01:11:58):
you see where this is going. When your pet wants
water or a bone, what do they do? They press
this button. So you teach them to press this button
that then sounds your voice when they want something. And
I watched this dog do this when the trainer showed
the dog two different toys. One was a ball, one

(01:12:19):
was one of those like sort of you know, cloth bones.
The dog pressed the right button and it took a
little bit for the dog to do it, but it
did it. Now that's a visual thing, but eventually, I
think you know, if your dog already goes like to
the door when they want to go to the bathroom,
it's not a big leap to think that you can
do this. The system is one hundred and sixty dollars,

(01:12:39):
the tiles are seventy. It's going to be available in
February twenty twenty three. Again, it's called Fluent Pet Connect.
If you want your pet to talk to you, well,
look at it. That's going to do it. For this
hour of the show, Hour number two of the brand
new rich On Tech Show is in the books. Next hour,
we're going to talk to an expert about what you

(01:13:00):
need to do now that last pass has been hacked.
More of your calls and more tech coming up. Welcome back.
You're listening to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Demiro, and
this is the show where we talk about the tech
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(01:13:20):
if you're just tuning in, what happened to Leo Laporte.
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(01:13:43):
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birthday cake kitkats. Have you ever seen those? I never did,
and I was tempted. I didn't buy them, but I
was very tempted. I'm a sucker sometimes for all these
like you know, anything like funfetti flavor. Let's be honest,
you know, I think Funfetti is a you know, they're
wondering how pumpkin spice became so big, right, They're like, Ah,
we have this flavor that's really good, but why did

(01:14:46):
pumpkin spice become so popular? I think Funfetti has the
ability to do that same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
I just got back from CEES and this is like,
you know, the biggest tech show in the world. You've
got techy people there, and so I figured, you know,
historically it's a place where you exchange a lot of
business cards, right, And I'm a tech guy, So I'm like,
I can't have a physical business card, Like come on,
I do, and I've had the same ones for many years,

(01:15:15):
and I'm always like hesitant to give them out because
I'm like, shouldn't we be doing something smarter, better and
more efficient than a piece of paper that we cut
and print with stuff? And so before CES, the night before,
I tested three different digital business card apps, cause I
was like, you know what, I'm going to try to
use a digital business card and I'll just cut to

(01:15:35):
the chase here. I'll just tell you no one likes
digital business cards. It's just a fact of life. And
I'll tell you why this is what I realized in
trying to share my digital business cards so many times,
is that when you're sharing a card with someone, it
is a quick thing where basically you say, oh, and
here's my card, give me a call, get in touch,

(01:15:56):
let's hang out, let's do business whatever, and they take
it and they put it in pocket and they forget
about it until they get home they empty their pocket
and say, oh, yeah, I need to call Rich. Let
me put his number in my phone, or let me
email him, or let me look him up. Whatever it is.
With a digital business card, people need to take action immediately,
and that is what breaks this whole business business card

(01:16:19):
continuum because nobody wants to do something in that moment
because the next person is walking up to them, or they're,
you know, doing something next on their calendar, or they're
going to their next meeting. They don't have time to
deal with your contact information at that very moment. So
I tested three of these things. The first is called
Popple popl and the way that a lot of these

(01:16:40):
does keep messing up on that digital business cards work
is that you can scan a QR code and then
I'll bring up your information. You can text someone your
digital information. Usually it's a link to your digital business card.
You can email them your business card. There's a lot
of ways to share, and most of these apps support

(01:17:02):
all the different ways. So, for instance, Popple actually the
way that they started and it's popl This was a
physical device like a little sticker that you could put
on the back of your iPhone. You could tap that
to another iPhone or any NFC enabled phone and it
would trigger your information to pop up on their phone.

(01:17:22):
And so it was pretty cool. But now people have
gotten very used to QR codes. We don't really need
to tap anymore. You can just you know, scan someone
else's QR code, and so that's the primary method of
sharing is a QR code. So you can put it
in your Apple wallet, you can put it in your
Google wallet, and then someone you know, you just pull
up your QR code, someone scans it and now they
have your information on their phone. But here's a thing.

(01:17:45):
It typically just brings up a website, and on that
website they have to do something, whether it's you know,
download your information or follow you on Twitter or Instagram.
So unless they're ready to do that at that very
exact moment, it could be tricky, so Popolite says, probably
the slickest out of all of these. It's probably the
most like, you know, kind of the youngest, freshest looking

(01:18:05):
app out of all of them. And many of these apps,
by the way, have a customizable web page that's kind
of your business card. But also it has like lead capture,
so if you're like a salesperson that's constantly meeting new people,
or anyone that's meeting new people and you want to
remember how you met them, you can also capture their
information so when they add their your card to their phone,

(01:18:27):
you know, the card will prompt them and say, hey,
do you want to send back your information a rich
So poppol looks pretty slick, it works really well. It's
probably one of my top picks for sure. And they
just added this feature where you can have a QR
code that works without Internet, so when the person scans that,
they don't need Internet on their phone, or you don't
need internet on your phone to make that work, which

(01:18:47):
is kind of cool. That's a brand new feature. I
haven't tested it, but that came into play because a
lot of the people I was talking to and trying
to give my card to were international, and so they
have either their you know, cellular data turned off, or
they hadn't connected to the Wi Fi or whatever. It
was just a little bit complicated. So that's another consideration,
all right. The next app that I tested is called

(01:19:08):
Hi Hello, and this app what I like is that
the card, like the digital business card that it gives you,
is really slick looking. It looks really nice, and so
it's got this cool format. You can, you know, change
how it looks. It's got all your information right on
one page. So what someone could do when they see
this is they could screenshot your information if they pull

(01:19:29):
that up. So some of them, like poppol will just
show like a Twitter icon or an Instagram icon, and
so you can't really like screenshot that. If you just
want to do this in a hurry, but with high Hello,
you could just screenshot the whatever the business card that
pops up and boom, Now you can add it to
your phone later on when you have time. And again
it all comes back to what I noticed. Every single

(01:19:51):
person I was trying to share this with, none of
them wanted to deal with my contact info at that
very moment because they had better things to do with
their lives. And so that's that. My big takeaway is like,
oh okay, that's interesting. But like Poppel, this allows you
to share via QR code, email text. This actually can
write to an NFC device. If you have an NFC

(01:20:11):
device that you want to write it to, you can
add it to Apple Wallet and I like the look
of it. And again it keeps track of the people
that you send your stuff to so that you can
follow up with them as well. Okay, the final one
that I tested is called link l n Q, and
this I would say is probably like the most business
y out of all of these different apps, and so

(01:20:34):
link li in q I actually like it the best
for a certain reason. And the reason and this is
what I've decided. The reason is that you can send
your information as a text to someone. And what it
does is it will send that text with a link
to your business card, but also your business card embedded

(01:20:56):
in that text, so your VCF card if you've ever
gotten a text where it's like, you know, basically a
contact card, and you can download that right to your phone.
So what I like about this is that when I
text someone my information, they have the option to not
have to deal with it at that moment because my
contact card is in their text now. So later on

(01:21:19):
when they're you know, at the end of the night
or whatever, when they're going through all their different texts,
they can say, oh, yeah, Rich DeMuro shared his information.
Here it is and I can download that. They can
download that card right to their phone when they have
the time to do it, as opposed to having to
deal with it right then and there. The downside to
that setup is that this link comes from a link

(01:21:40):
phone number. So the implication for most people or you know,
what most people might do is just reply back to
that text it does say this came from rich DeMuro
like it'll it kind of like nudges them to make
them realize that it's not my text number. But that's
the only downside is you have to pay extra if
you want it to come from your text number, so
which I'm not ready to pay for any of these

(01:22:00):
apps just now, but that's that's kind of where it is.
So anyway, poppol high Hello and Link l A n Q.
But the bottom line is I'm probably going back to
a regular business card because it just seems to be
the easiest. That's what I prefer, and it seems like
a lot of people prefer that as well. All right,
let me just do one quick story before we get
to calls in a moment here after the break But Ring,

(01:22:23):
you know Ring, the video doorbell company, they came out
with a Ring car cam. So one of the most
popular questions I get is when or which you know,
which one of these car cams should I get these?
You know, everyone wants one of these little cams for
their car, and now Ring has one. And it's really
cool because it looks nice, it's easy to set up,

(01:22:43):
it works with Ring. It can record whenever there's a
you know, an event detected like a break in. But
there's also sensors to kind of detect when something's happening
around your vehicle. If you get stopped for a traffic stop,
you can say ALEXA record and your camera will start
recording even if your car's parked. This is a two
hundred and fifty dollars camera. Again, it works with Ring.

(01:23:04):
It's called the Ring Carcam. It's coming out soon. It
looks really cool. It's one hundred ninety nine dollars if
you pre order it. So if you know you want
this thing, probably now's the time to get it if
you have Ring on your house and you've got the
whole subscription. Now this also has LTE built in, so
you will have to pay an extra six dollars a
month if you want that LTD LTE capability, which is cellular.

(01:23:26):
But I think this is gonna be something I'm gonna recommend,
especially if you like the Ring video doorbell. It'll integrate
with all your other cameras and it looks slick. I
haven't tested it, but it's got cameras that look out
and also into your car. So Ring carcam brand new
unveiled at CES twenty twenty three. You are listening to
Rich on Tech. Give me a call triple eight Rich

(01:23:47):
one oh one with your tech question, and coming up,
we're going to talk to an expert about what you
need to do if you were involved in that last
pass hack. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Rich tamiro
here which on Tech radio show. We are talking technology
and taking your questions. Dale is in Minster, Ohio. Dale,

(01:24:08):
welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
How you doing, young man? Welcome to be the new
guy on the block.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Thank you so much. I don't know if I've ever
been to new kid on the block.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
Drive a truck. I don't want to take up too
much of your time, but I used to pick you
up on the radio stations out there when I was
in LA over the years. But here's my question. I'm
on a fixed income. I got an old operating system,
Windows eight point one, Sammy Ewlett Packard, good machine working

(01:24:43):
that ninety problems with it. The only thing I ever
do was crack the screen and turned off the touch
screen on the human interface. If you know what I'm
talking about. Sure, And here's my predicament. I can't afford
to buy a new computer, can't upgrade to Windows ten.
And I don't want to put you on the spot

(01:25:04):
to recommend anything over the air. But if you were
in my say, if it was you in my situation,
what would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Well, Okay, so first off, you're you're already on Windows
eight point one. Yeah, okay, So that means that you know,
so I know you're talking about this end of life
support or end of support on end of life end
of support on January tenth, that's coming up in a
couple of days here. So what that means is that
you're not going to get any updates for that computer

(01:25:35):
when it comes to Windows. Now, that doesn't mean that
individual apps can't be updated. So have you had any trouble?
What what like browser are you using? Using like Chrome
or something.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
I've got Microsoft Edge in there and also Firefox. I
use two different ones. I'm on a Wi Fi system, Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
I mean, look, Microsoft Edge, you know they may stop
updates for that, but I don't know if they're doing
that just yet Firefox. Same thing. Basically, what's happening here
is that you may lose updates for these computer you know,
for these software programs on the computer. It doesn't mean
your computer stops working on the tenth it will still work.
The main thing is that you need to be aware

(01:26:15):
of the security implications of no longer receiving security updates.
So that means that you could be at risk for
certain things. Now, if you're doing most of your stuff online,
most of your stuff on websites, many of your programs
are running in the browser, you probably should be Okay.
I might recommend running Chrome if you can. If you
can download that and run it, it's got a lot

(01:26:37):
of protections built in. I mean Edge does too, and
so does Firefox to an extent. But you know, I
think that that's the main thing, is knowing what you're
up against. Other than that, I mean, I would plan
for a new computer at some time, maybe over the
next year, and you know, you can go. If you're
not doing anything that's truly intensive on this computer, you

(01:26:59):
could probably get away with a Chromebook. And I look
into Asher on the Chromebooks. I've been testing one and
they've got a lot of great models and a lot
of different price ranges. But you want to get one
that definitely has the best specs that you can afford
on your budget. You say you're on a fixed income,
So I would just put away a little every month
for the next couple of months and until you get
enough that you can upgrade this system. But it's not

(01:27:21):
going to stop working anytime soon. And yes it's an
older system. Windows eight point one is not ideal, but
it just got to end of support in three days,
so it's not like it's going away anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
Does that make sense, Yeah, it does.

Speaker 9 (01:27:39):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:27:40):
I was more or less concerned was the security aspect
of it. I think the Windows Defender will no longer
be upgraded, right, And I was wondering about a possible
other I've looked at everything. I add best Norton all
those half dozen or two dozen security softwares out there,
and cut the side on which one might be the best.

(01:28:01):
And like I said, I don't want you to stick
your neck out on the air recommending somebody software.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
But well, I don't mind. I mean that's yeah, I mean, look.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
Yes, you're right, that was my concern area. I don't game,
I don't create anything. I just do a lot of reading. Okay,
watch videos and maybe the Netflix. That's about the extent
of my modern technology.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I think I think you're gonna be okay, Dale, as
long as you just be careful about any links that
people send you through your email. I don't think you're
getting text on this computer, but you know, you just
have to be careful about anything that could you know, uh,
that could be a security exploit of this computer, because
that's what that's what happens when when when software is
no longer updated with security updates. Hackers know that, and

(01:28:47):
they look for exploits and they exploit them. And that's
kind of the main thing that you're up against. So again,
it's probably not going to be a huge thing you
need to worry about in the next day or two.
But again, plan for a new computer, do some research,
figure out if a Chromebook's going to be good. And
it sounds like it would be fine for what you need.
I'd go with that. And I think you're going to

(01:29:07):
be just great. So Dale, thanks for the question in Ohio.
I appreciate it. Let's go to Ed in Huntington Beach, Ed,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, Hi, Rich, I'm one of the ones to congratulate
you on getting this new job.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
I bought your book one hundred and one Jeffson of
the iPhone and everything I have is Apple. But anyway,
my question to get down to it is, since the
major hack back in August of Last Pass, I'm really
losing faith in Last Pass and I've changed my master password.

(01:29:48):
It's up to twenty characters, and and I guess it's
a two part question. My question is should I just
back out of out of last path? But I don't
really know how. I've got so many passwords on there,
I don't really know how to get to back out
of that last path. And and.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
You're you're feeling, you're you're frustrated, You're you're you're kind
of I feel it. I feel it in your voice
that you are upset that you put so much time
and effort into this program and now it's kind of, uh,
you know, it's not worked out the way that you
would have liked it. Is that what I'm feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Yeah, I'm you know, I'm losing my trust, losing my
trust and last path and you know they've they've somehow
somebody in their company has opened up there that somebody
stole all the source code back in August, and it's
just it's just getting worse and worse. So I did

(01:30:53):
change my master password right now, but I have some
banking on there and I have Amazon on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Here's what I want to do, ed hang on. My
next guest is going to answer all these questions and more.
We're going to talk to an expert about this whole
last Pass hack. I think you're going to enjoy the
conversation coming up. Last Pass hack. What you need to know.
You are listening to rich on tech. Welcome back to
rich on tech. On Richdimiro talking about technology and something

(01:31:23):
pretty big in the tech world. Actually huge is this
last last pass breach. Last Pass is a very popular
password manager and if you hear me talk at all.
On any of my segments, I'm always talking about the
importance of strong passwords, two factor authentication, and also having

(01:31:43):
a password manager. So then when you see in the
news that last pass is hacked, not just once, but twice,
you're like, rich, where are you leading me here? Because
maybe it was safer for me to write my stuff
down on a piece of paper. I still think it's
better to use a password manager. Lots of things, though,
we were taken in this breach. Website URLs for stored

(01:32:06):
passwords and user names, billing addresses, email addresses, telephone numbers,
company names, all kinds of information. Now Here to break
it down is Roger Grimes. He is a data defense
data driven defense evangelist at NOBI four and one of
the most interesting people I interviewed at KTLA in the
past year. We talked about security. Roger, thanks for joining me,

(01:32:30):
glad to talk. So let's break this down. First off,
can you give me a summary of what happened with
last past. I believe they were hacked in eight in
August and they said no, no, everything's fine, and all
of a sudden it comes out, oh no, no, actually
things aren't so fine. So what's the deal.

Speaker 7 (01:32:45):
Yeah, you know, they didn't necessarily get hacked. They did,
but it was really one of their providers, their cloud
storage providers where they stored their users users information, so
including passwords, but the passwords were encrypted with AES, but
they were you know, what they revealed is that a
lot of the information related to their customers and the

(01:33:07):
different websites were stored and last pass were not encrypted.
So the passwords themselves were thankfully encrypted by AES with
two hundred and fifty six bits of encryption. That's really good,
but a lot of other information wasn't. So, you know,
even at the very least, if they're not getting your passwords,
they could at least know what websites you belong to
and probably do some spear phishing attacks right and saying hey,

(01:33:30):
we're from this website, we need you to change your
password or something like that and then get your real
password and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
All right, let's break that down. So first off, if
I'm a last past customer, do I ditch them right now?
Do I give them another chance? And is my data
at risk? Do they have like my logins for every
website or no, you're saying they don't kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
They certainly don't have your passwords, but they could have
your login names. And let me say, overall, I like
what advice you've been telling people. Everybody should use. My opinion,
and I've been doing computer security for thirty four years,
written thirteen books on the subject, I think everybody should
be using a password manager, and last Pass is certainly
one of the more popular ones. It's had some issues.

(01:34:11):
This is probably the seventh compromise that they've had since
they've been in existence, but so it's they're starting to
cause some trust issues. But I would still say for
existing customers, I think the majority of your passwords are
probably safe. If your master password that protected that your
last password manager was twelve characters are longer. If it's not,

(01:34:36):
If your password was something weaker than twelve characters long
with a little bit of complexity, you know, uppercase lowercase numbers,
then you probably need to not only change your last
master password, but all the passwords that you stored in immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Oh wow, So what if you had Okay, let's say
you had a not so good main password to last
pass and the way that these Just to explain the
way that these password managers work, if you haven't used one,
you choose, like you log into the password manager with
a strong password, and you know your username or your email,
and then you store all of your different you know,

(01:35:11):
let's say you're loging for Amazon and Google. You store
those inside the manager, so you log in once and
then it sort of logins logs in for you using
your data. So if I had a week password on
my last Past account and didn't have two factor authentication enabled,
am I worse off?

Speaker 9 (01:35:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:35:32):
I mean, you know, I still you know, hackers really
don't like hacking, and encryption, like encryption is usually even
bad encryption. And when we say last pass heads didn't
have the strongest encryption, it was all right encryption. There
were some weaknesses, some issues. It is a rarity to
almost zero that hackers will actually attack the encryption. But

(01:35:55):
if you had a week password, meaning eleven characters or less,
that's something they could start doing password guessing that and
then get access to your encrypted passwords. So, you know,
and let me say, I think Last Past that they've
been requiring a twelve character password for at least a
couple of years. So if you've gotten last pass in
the last three or four years, you probably already have

(01:36:17):
a twelve character password. If you didn't you joined before that. Again,
if you if you have something weaker than a twelve
character password, well you need to go ahead and change that.
But I think the key thing is I think everybody
should use a password manager because people that don't reuse
the same passwords across multiple websites, and the risk of
doing that is far greater than your password manager being compromised.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
And also if you're using the same if you're not
using a password manager, you're doing what's easy for the
human brain, which is making up passwords that are variations
on your passwords, which you know means you're using similar
passwords across a lot of different websites as well.

Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
Kay, you're exactly right. The average person has as three
to seven passwords that they reuse across one hundred and
seventy different websites, and even if they don't use the
same password, there's a password pattern. And it's like I
used to think I was a genius years ago. I
would you have my root password. Let's say it was frog,
it wasn't frog. Let's say it was frog. I'd say

(01:37:16):
like frog tw for Twitter, frog s B for Facebook,
frog I for Instagram, and I'm like, great, I'm using
a different password for every website. But hackers on average
will compromise one or two of your websites every year
and you don't know that. You know, oftentimes you don't
know that they did, and then your passwords are out there.
So if you have a pattern, like some people are like,

(01:37:36):
you know, go Bucks or go Cubs or something like that,
and they add something different to the end. If you
have a pattern, hackers will quickly, over a couple of years,
see that pattern and go, oh, you know, let's go
try you know, frog A for Amazon and see if
that works. So you really need to let a password
manager which will create truly long and complex, perfectly random

(01:37:59):
passwords do it, and the password manager will create them
and use them and you don't need to even know
if they are, Like I can't be fished out of
my password because I don't know what they are right now?

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
How many characters? You know there's that little slider when
you know, go to choose a password. How many characters
should we be sliding up to? Should it be ten, twelve, sixteen?
What do you recommend if.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
You're using perfectly random passwords like a password manager creates
twelve characters. As far as we know, no known, even
advanced technology today can break a twelve character perfectly random password.
And we mean somebody that has the capability of guessing
forty five trillion passwords a second cannot break a twelve

(01:38:42):
character perfectly random password, even if given years. If you
choose it out of your brain, you know, and you
make up something because we tend to use, you know,
words that we add a couple of things to. In
order to be perfectly safe, it needs to be twenty
characters or longer. I have friends who routinely break eighteen

(01:39:02):
character passwords that people have made of every day, and
they're not even the least you know, the elite advanced
guessers I'm talking about. So let me say it again.
If it's perfectly random, twelve characters or longer is fine
if you make it up out of your head. If
you want it to be truly unguessable, uncrackable, it needs
to be twenty characters. Nobody wants to use a twenty

(01:39:23):
character password, create or use the twenty So use the
password manager. Let it do the hard work.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Okay, explain before you go explain the idea of spearfishing.
We've heard of phishing, you know, that's when an email
tries to you know, or a link tries to get
your information, gets you to log in whatever. What is spearfishing.

Speaker 7 (01:39:40):
That's where they've got some type of knowledge that may
not be you know, public to everybody else, Like everybody
gets the Facebook, Instagram, Twitter stuff. But let's suppose that
you belong to some you know, cat website, you're really
into Persian cats. Well, if the hackers got that information,
let's say, from last pass, and they now know that
Roger seems to really like these Persian cat website he

(01:40:01):
apparently raises these things or something like that, Well, that
can become this intimate email where person's like, oh, I've
got this great Persian cat deal for you. And so
you're not expecting it to be you know, a hacker
in a traditional sense, because it's not anything you know,
widely used. It's something specific. This person had to know
some information about you in order to use it.

Speaker 9 (01:40:23):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:40:23):
It could be that you know, they find you're, you know,
a Tampa Bucks fan, and so all of a sudden
you get this email going, hey, we have you've won
free Bucks tickets. You know, click here or you know,
spend one hundred bucks to buy these, you know, Tampa
Bay Bucks tickets. A spearfish is that they're using some
intimate information that the general public doesn't know about in
order for you to for some you know, to let

(01:40:44):
your guard down and have a little bit more trust
than you otherwise would if they just hit you with
some generic phishing email.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Well, said Roger Grimes of a note before and on
Twitter at Roger A. Grimes, you are a wealth of
information when it comes to computer security. Thanks so much
for joining me today and explaining the entire last past situation.
Get those passwords strong, folks. That's the bottom line.

Speaker 7 (01:41:09):
Right, Yep, yep, you're right, and you're giving good advice.

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Thanks Roger for joining me today on this very first
episode of rich on Tech. You're listening to me Rich
DeMuro talk technology. Coming up. Have you heard of a
bird feeder that's smart? I'm gonna tell you about that,
plus wrap up the show coming up. You're listening to
rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Jim

(01:41:35):
writes in via email, Hey, Rich, what's the best way
to exchange original high quality photos between iPhone and Android phones.
Email has size limits and texting degrades the images. I
usually use Facebook Messenger, but there's got to be a
better way. Thanks Jim. At the end of his email says,
a seminar on time travel will be held two years

(01:41:56):
two weeks ago. That's my kind of guy. Great question,
And this is the kind of stuff that you know,
it always comes up when you're with a group of
people and you need to share something with them. And
I find that this happens at family gatherings or when
you're with your friends at a table and you take
a group picture and everyone's like, oh, airdrop, airdrop, air drop.

(01:42:18):
Air drop is phenomenal. But the problem with air drop
is that it's only iPhone to iPhone or iPhone to
mac or iPhone to iPad or iPad you know. You
know what I'm saying. It's an Apple thing. And so
if you are texting someone, people are like, oh, what
do you texting me? This tiny video for well, it
didn't start out tiny, but because it went through SMS

(01:42:39):
into the iPhone, it's tiny. So a couple things here.
Number one, if you're going iPhone to iPhone, it's always
going to be Okay, so the message I message is
going to be just fine. If you're going iPhone to Android,
it's not going to be fine. If you're going Android
to iPhone, not going to be fine. If you're going
Android to Android and you are on a reasonably newer

(01:42:59):
phone and you've activated what's called the chat feature and
you're using the Google Messages app, it's going to be fine.
The problem is, really what it comes down to is
Android to iPhone, iPhone to Android, how do you exchange
those files? Now, there are many many ways you can
do this, and the reason why air drop is so cool.
And by the way, Android has its own it's called

(01:43:21):
Nearby Share. If you haven't looked into it, it's fantastic.
You can. You know, Android has air drop built in.
It's called Nearby Share, and it's it's a feature that's
on most modern or i think all Android phones at
this point, and if you haven't checked it out, try it.
But the problem is it only works from Android to Android.
But if you haven't and you've got Android friends that's
the way you share big stuff among your phones, try it.

(01:43:43):
I mean, it's really really phenomenal. Obviously, use air drop
if you're on iPhone to iPhone. I think the best
way is really, yeah, one of these messenger apps. So
what you have to do is ask your friend when
you're transferring, Hey, which app do you use? Maybe they
used Telegram, maybe they use Facebook Messenger, maybe they use

(01:44:04):
a signal or WhatsApp. I mean, chances are there's one
of these products that they're using that you're also using,
and that's the best way to get that large, high
quality file to them. Now what I like to do
is just kind of skip all that. Now, the best
thing I ever did was sign up my entire family
for Telegram. So we are all on a group chat
on Telegram and it makes life very very easy because

(01:44:26):
we all have different phones. And also I don't want
to really be limited by the phone that you know,
I am using. If I'm using Android and they're using iPhone,
and they're using Android and I'm using iPhone, why be
limited to all these different things that you know, these
limitations that some of these companies put on us. So
when you find that common ground, it's really nice. And
many people in the US have found common ground with

(01:44:46):
I Message. And if you're not part of that blue
bubble system, you know, people get bent out of shape
because you mess up the group chat. I'm not a
big fan of all that stuff. That's why I signed
up everyone for Telegram and said, let's use this because
we know it's going to work. And I use it
for work. I use it for my family. I use
it for my wife, and it just makes life so
much easier. If I'm testing an Android phone, my wife
could text me the exact same way she does if

(01:45:09):
we're using iPhones together with I message. So that's number one.
Get your friends on the same page with a cross
platform solution. If that doesn't work, what I like to
do is send them a link. Send them a link,
upload the file or the video. I'm guessing we're talking
about videos here, or photos, I guess upload it to
something like Dropbox or Google Drive or if you're using

(01:45:31):
Google Photos. You can send a link that way, and
when you send a link, they're going to get the
high quality picture because it's a link, it's in the cloud,
and there's no storage limits. I mean, obviously up to
your plan limits, but there's no sort of like sending
limits where you know, I can't send a one gigabyte
file because obviously that's not going to work through email,

(01:45:51):
but if it's a link, the file is held in
the cloud until the other person on the other end
downloads it. Facebook Messenger, I really feel like Jim is
kind of the sea way to do this. The other
thing is it's probably not best for big files, but Instagram,
if you use like the messenger functionality on there, that's
a pretty good cross platform solution. I don't know if

(01:46:13):
the pictures are sent truly high quality, but they're probably
gonna look better pictures and videos than they would if
you send them through you know, just standard SMS. And
so that's another option. Personally, I'm my default is to
use Google Photos. I will send you know, a link
with a bunch of pictures or a couple of pictures,
and then I'll use Dropbox if it's more business oriented.

(01:46:36):
There's also a whole host of different companies out there,
like we Transfer that can send stuff. But really the
problem is, you know, all of this stuff, if you're
sharing it through the cloud, has to go up to
the cloud first, and that could present some issues, especially
if you're in a place with spotty service. And that's
why people like I message are sorry. They like air

(01:46:58):
drop is because it can work at hoc, which means
your phone is directly connecting to that other phone, and
that's the big differentiator. Now, when I mentioned the nearby
Share on Android, same thing. It is ad hoc so
and nearby Share is actually even a little bit smarter
than air drop because nearby Share will detect what situation

(01:47:19):
you're in, so it can detect, you know, whether it
might be best to share it over the Internet, whether
if it's a small tiny file, whether it can share
it over Bluetooth, whether if it's a small file, or
whether it can share it over you know, direct Wi
Fi and direct WiFi is probably going to be the
fastest out of any of those, and Bluetooth is another
way of doing it, but that's not really something that

(01:47:41):
people want. The other app that I like that I've
used over the years for myself that I've found to
be pretty fast is called Send Anywhere, And you know,
it does require if this is kind of if you're
doing it yourself, you know, you would have to have
that on both devices, But if you wanted to send
a large file to yourself, that can work. But Telegram
also has this feature where you can have you know,

(01:48:01):
and even WhatsApp just out of this where you can
send messages to yourself. So look into those and I
think one of those solutions should be good. But until
we have you know, everyone on the same page with
like cross platform, we're going to continue running into these
issues with compatibility. Okay, over at CS. One more product
I saw which I thought was pretty neat, is called

(01:48:21):
the bird Buddy, and I love the idea of this.
This is a connected bird feeder. Now they've had that
for a while, started as a Kickstarter. The thing they
announced that CS that's brand new is a humming bird feeder,
and they think they call themselves tech for Nature. So
the idea is that all these birds fly into our
yard on a daily basis or weekly or monthly, the

(01:48:44):
bird feeder will take pictures and videos of those birds
now humming birds included, and not just take pictures but
also identify the species. So it uses AI to identify
And how does this all work, Well, it sort of
gamifies the birds that fly into your backyard. So the
way the the CEO and founders said it is it's
kind of like Pokemon Go for birds. So the feeders

(01:49:05):
are about two hundred dollars. Again, it's called bird Buddy,
I think it's a fun idea. My brother is a
big birder. Is that what they're called birders? But he
would love this, And I think I hope he's not listening,
because this is definitely the next gift I'm getting him
because it just sounds like so much fun. A bird feeder,
I might get a bird. I might become a burder,
a birdwatcher. I don't know what's the term? Bird buddy

(01:49:29):
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