Budget Security Cam Maker Wyze Has a Data Breach

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
California's new privacy rights, whys suffers a data leak, What
you need to know about it, Why it might be
easier to file your taxes for free this year, And
the best journaling apps if you're trying to kick off
twenty twenty with a fresh start.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's going on. I'm Rich Dmiro.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is Rich on Tech, the podcast where I talk
about the tech stuff I think you should know about.
Plus it's where I answer your questions. We've got producer
Megan here ready with your questions.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, Happy New Year.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I would like to say that we improved the podcast
for the new year, but we didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I mean I'm basically rolling in here fresh off of
vacation for a week, and I will tell you I
was trying to figure out what made this vacation different
than other vacations.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And here's what I've realized. It is the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
That I had a week off without going out of
town or having family members in town. So by like
day three, day four, I'm like, what is why does
this feel so good? And that's what it was all about. Yeah,
So I literally did not do anything, didn't check email.
I you know, I was on social media once a
day and that was it. It was like it was

(01:22):
just very like get let go of everything and kind
of come back. And now we're getting back into it
because it is it is twenty twenty, and there's no
more fooling around because CS is happening very soon, which
means I try to avoid my emails for the entire week,
but that is nearly impossible because every day and every

(01:44):
tech person I know, you're just getting bombarded with emails
from CS. I'm looking at my calendar for next week
and it is more filled than I've ever seen. There's
no way I'm gonna be able to do all these
things that I actually put in the calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
But I will try, yeah, and will be It will
be tough.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
But my goal is to always bring the coolest CS coverage.
There's so many things there. I try to find the
stuff that is for the everyday person and stuff that
like will actually come to fruition because a lot of
times there's like pie in the sky, these big ideals,
you know, eight K, sixteen K, that's cool, but I
want to know this stuff that's going to come out

(02:22):
in the next year that's going to be really useful.
And that's going to be uh, maybe not as flashy
as the big stuff that just looks cool on TV,
but but that you know, you can actually use. Like
what you know, if you have Hugh lights in your home, like, well,
what are they coming out with to make those easier?
Or you know, we just had this story come out today.
C by Ge makes some of my favorite lights, and

(02:43):
you know, just last week I was looking for like
a motion sensor for those lights, and it turns out
they're going to be unveiling those as ces. So it's
like little things like that that I think are more interesting.
I also saw a refrigerator that lets you grow your
own indoor vegetables, so I thought that was pretty cool.
I can't wait to see that. Perfect for urban gardeners.
I have a feeling in California people be growing something

(03:05):
other than carrots.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
But yeah, we'll see, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So you have probably been getting a lot of emails
from companies about new privacy changes and their privacy policy,
and I know in my email it's just been one
after another and I ignored a lot of them until
I looked into it because a lot of people emailed
me and they're like, Rich, what is going on.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
As of January first, we have a new thing called
the California Consumer Privacy Act, or CCPA, And even if
you don't live in California, this probably will affect you
in certain ways because it's similar to what happened over
in Europe with GDPR. That was their General Data Protection Regulation. Basically,
it's privacy protections for consumers. And even though Europe enacted

(03:51):
those for European consumers, a lot of it transferred over
to the US because look, if you're a company like
Facebook and you have to abide by all of these
privacy regulations, in many cases, it's much easier just to
put them out for everyone instead of just people in Europe.
I mean, how do you filter a person coming from
Europe to your website and say, oh, only these apply

(04:13):
to you. And it's the same thing with California. So
now I have to filter someone from Europe and California
and everyone else. It makes it very complicated. So a
lot of these companies are just blanket updating their privacy
policies to kind of apply to everyone.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here's what this CCPA does for you.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Number One, you can ask a copy to produce or
ask a company to produce a copy of all of
the information it has gathered on you. And a lot
of this is coming from the La Times story. It's
twenty twenty, and you might have some new privacy rights online,
they say, And so that's number one.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, that's what GDPR did as well.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And companies like Facebook and Twitter and Google have allowed
you to do this for a long time. They call
it takeout or things like that, where you can just
download a bunch of the information. This is very specific
about what you should be able to download.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
The other thing you can do is ask for that
information to be deleted, and they will delete it, and
so you can do that as well. And the third
is what they're calling opt out, which seems like it
would be pretty straightforward, but it's really not, because when
you're talking about the internet, like I looked at the
bottom of the La Times website and a lot of
these websites have a new button that says do not

(05:20):
sell my personal information, and you can click it, and
then there's a toggle at the bottom that says, basically,
opt out of all like everything you just collected from
me on this website, don't share it with anyone else.
Don't sell it to anyone else, which is kind of odd.
So you can do that, but it feels like it's
a one time thing, Like I don't think that that
continues for like over and over for every visit through

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the time. Well, that's through any website, Like if you
go to the bottom of like a lot of these websites. Now,
let's just look at BuzzFeed, because I'm curious if they're
you know, they're in California, right, they're serving up California.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So let's see if I go all the way down
to BuzzFeed.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now, the problem is a lot of these websites, you
can't scroll to the bottom of the website.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
There is no bottom on BuzzFeed.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's just loading.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It just goes and goes. They call that infinite scroll.
So I guess I can't see BuzzFeed. Let's try New
York Times dot com. What's another like news? I guess
we can try ours and see Yeah, okay again New
York Times. I scroll to the bottom and it just
refreshes the whole page. Okay, wait, I think it stopped.
Oh no, I can't. Okay anyway, So that's that's what

(06:25):
the deal is. And you if you really want to
have some fun. I think two takeaways from this. Number One,
California now has one of the strictest online privacy laws
in the nation, which is good. California has always been
ahead when it comes to privacy and rules and regulations and.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
All that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
So it's good it's happening here first, but I think
it kind of filters out to the rest of the nation.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's number one.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Number Two, these companies are collecting a lot of data
on us, and that's pretty apparent if you want to
look through, like just open one of the emails that
you've gotten that says we're updating our privacy policy and
just kind of click to the updated policy. And it's
actually written in pretty clear terms what they collect. Like
I was reading the one for Postmates, and they're collecting
like everything like when you're using the app, when you're

(07:11):
opening the app, where you're going, when you're using the app,
They use when you're in motion, so that they know
if you're traveling in front of a business that you
might want to get something from.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I mean, it's really crazy. Wow. Anyway, so it's wild.
It is wild. The new Frontier.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, well, so that connects to our first question from Gwendolyn,
what is the Facebook privacy notice about? And should we
as users ask for information to be deleted?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So I'm trying to see if I actually got the
Facebook privacy notice from Facebook. I imagine that was probably one
of the first to come through. But let's see, that's
kind of tough to find. There's so many emails with Facebook.
But what she's asking is if you should if you
should opt out with something like Facebook. I'm not sure
you can opt out because if you go to their

(07:59):
private policy, I mean, to use Facebook, they have to
collect information on you. I mean that's kind of how
it works. Yeah, And if you don't agree to that
policy and you want to opt out, I believe you
basically have to stop using the service because how can
you use Facebook, which is tracking you, your friends, your contacts,
where you go, where you check in, your location, the

(08:21):
things you like, the things you share. How can it
do anything without that information? So if you opt out,
there's really not much you can do.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Basically, you delete your account, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's what I would say.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, you can't really use it without, you know,
without giving them that information. So I think if you
want to opt out, Number one, you can't really use Facebook,
and I'm sure Facebook in their privacy policy says like, look,
if you want to opt out of this, you're welcome to,
but we have to close your account. Because unless there's
a way to use Facebook without all this data being collected,

(08:53):
I don't know it, but that would be pretty amazing
because the way that Facebook makes money is through our data.
I mean, they sell ads against what they know about us,
and that's where you get all those crazy little ads
that people email me about all the time that always
seemed too good to be true.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, like what did my wife buy?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like Lindsay bought like a dress off an ad she
like looked up and all of a sudden, she's like,
the perfect dress popped up in my feed?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Was she talking about it? She was searching for dresses.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
But I guess whatever keywords she searched, the companies had
then sold an ad against that, and next thing, you know,
it was like the perfect dress and I forget if
it worked out or not, but you know it's all
these companies do the same thing, but that's how they work.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, they get your data.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So Gwendolyn, I think if you are not comfortable with
what Facebook is doing. Then you can opt out, but
really I think opt out means that you got to
quit the service. That's kind of the agreement is like, hey,
we'll use all the stuff that you feed to us
and give you this free service that has connected billions
of people around the world in really interesting ways. And
let's not forget that Facebook also owns Instagram, so the

(09:55):
same thing is happening there and Instagram.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
At this point, I would argue.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's probably not more popular, like theoretically, like it feels
like numbers wise, yeah, but it feels like when I'm
looking at people scrolling, they're on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Not so much Facebook anymore, although I still see a
lot of Facebook. All right, let's talk about more privacy stuff.
This happened over the break. I call it the break.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I mean, we didn't have a podcast last week, so
theoretically there was a little break. Why you might remember
that name because myself, along with a lot of other people,
recommended their cameras and this is a very popular security
camera because it was super cheap. It was I think
about twenty dollars for the wisecam, and that's what made
it seem too good to be true. And I hate

(10:38):
for people to think like, oh, I told you so rich,
because you said this was such a good thing, and
now look at what happened. They got breached. They suck,
And I don't think that's the case here. Yeah, the
camera's twenty bucks. They actually have a nice black version.
Now it's kind of cool. But the beauty of this
little camera is that nobody could believe, in a world
of one hundred dollars security care, that any company could

(11:01):
come up with a twenty dollars camera.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And what they did was they just made it simpler
and easier.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
And these were smart guys that used to work at
Amazon and gals and they just said, hey, let's make
a device you know that's twenty dollars and it does
all the things you need. And the best part about
Ways or whys rather ways, is the way you navigate.
The best part about Whys is that it will take
little clips and send them to the cloud for you

(11:28):
for free.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
And it's not unlimited.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's like fourteen days worth of clips, and they're limited
to a certain amount of time, maybe ten seconds. But
if someone breaks into your home, oh you need is
a thirty second clip of them, you know, moving in
front of the camera and you've got their face.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So that was really cool, and a lot of you
bought these things.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, I think this Wyse story was one of
the most popular stories we did in either twenty seventeen
or twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I can't remember what year it was, but it was
a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Ago and it was super I mean, I got emails
about this camera four months on end, and I don't
think that I was wrong about this company.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I still would recommend them.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
In fact, I have one of these in my house
that my kid used to try to capture Sanna on
Christmas Eve. But here's what happened in this breach. Basically
what was stolen was or what was exposed I should say,
because no one has necessarily used this information in nefarious ways.
It's just it's out there.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But why is nickname?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
So what you called your cameras in the app, device names,
user emails, your profile photos, your WiFi router name, and
also some Alexa integration tokens. So if you had one
of these connected to either Alexa or Google Assistant, that
connection you might have noticed broke over the holidays and
you're probably sitting there going wait, why is this no

(12:43):
longer working with Alexa or Google.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
That's because as a precaution.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
They just reset all those tokens, so you just have
to go in and re establish that connection.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So who was affected by the breach?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
At first they were saying people that signed up December
fourth through twenty sixth. It's all users that created an
account prior to December twenty sixth. But what was not
taken or what was not the information did not contain
is passwords, personal financial data which aka credit cards, and
video file. So those three things arguably are the things

(13:18):
that you would worry about the most in a security breach.
So with that said, it's like, okay, you could breathe
a little sigh of relief, but at the same time,
if you named your camera you know, something really interesting,
you know, like a funny name, and it's linked to
your username, that could be kind of embarrassing. Otherwise it's
it's kind of like we dodged a little bullet here,

(13:38):
because you know, it's it's bad. Anytime that data is
stolen or exposed, it's not good and we don't like
to hear that. And it gives whyse kind of like,
you know, people are like I knew that was a
cheap camera.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Maybe their security is not that good.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
And if you look at Whyse's forum where they talk
about a lot of these questions, they say they actually
have a question that I thought was.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Great, let me find it here in this paperwork.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
My hands are so dry every time before CES, my
hands get it like the driest possible. And then CS
doesn't help because it's the driest place on the planet.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You need those gloves. I like lotion gloves.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Okay, so your full disclosure. There was a year at
CES I actually slept in those, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Because I had to.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I was so my hands were so dry that I
was like, this is who wants to see dry cractically
red hands. It's ridiculous. And we live in LA which
I don't even understand. But and then at C, yes,
you're washing your hands a lot because you don't want
to get sick.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
So it's this whole big thing.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
But it's funny you say that because I actually went
out and bought those one year and I slept in them,
and I.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Thought it was the funniest thing ever. If it's weird,
it's weird, but it.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Worked, Okay. So in their blog posts, they say. We've
often heard people say you pay, you pay for what
you get. I think people say you get what you
pay for. I think they got wrong. But assuming WISE
products are less secure because they're less expensive, and why
says this is not true. We've always taken security very
seriously and were devastated that we let our users.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Down like this.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's this is a clear signal that we need to
totally revisit all WISE security guidelines and all aspects, better
communicate those protocols to WISE employees, and bump up priority
for user requested security features.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Beyond two factor authentication.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And I think they might force you to put on
two factor authentication at this point, which you should. But
what happened here? How did this get exposed? Well, let's
see how did they do it?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
One or something?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, I guess, let's see here, let's see. Says, we've
been auditing all of our servers and databases. We discovered
an additional database that was left unprotected anyway. Basically, yeah,
something went wrong, so they figured it out. And if
you have a WISE camera, I don't think all is lost.
I just think that with anything, always set up two
factor authentication and always understand that with all of these

(15:53):
IoT devices, there's always a chance this can happen. Yeah,
and I will say in this respect, I think we
got the best case scenario, which is your credit card
and your video files were not leaked, right, So.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
That's good news. Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Our next question comes from Lucy and she wrote in
on rich on tech dot tv. She filled out the
contact section and that's how she was able to send
this question. As we begin a new decade, I would
like to clean out my drawers and closets of old
technology devices. I have broken tablets, iPhones, trio, refurbished laptops,

(16:28):
basically a decade of old technology and power chords. I
don't want to just trash them in an e waste collection.
I would really like to go through saved pictures and documents.
Is there a way to do this? Can you help me?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Okay, a couple questions, I think.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, let's see the first question about these saved documents
and photos. I mean, there's not really a simple way
to do that. You kind of have to power all
these things up and go through and just kind of
collect the stuff that's on them. I mean there's no
like magical formula. Now, there used to be a device
I would have recommended, but it went out of business.
It was this little box and I'm trying to remember
the name of it, but it was a little box

(17:05):
that you would plug your devices into and would basically
like find all the pictures off those devices and kind
of put it on that box. Oh and it was
kind of cool, but it went out of business. So
I have this box sitting at home with all these
pictures on it that I can no longer access. And
I will tell you that they did give me a
runway of like times running out, you need to get
all those photos off, and I just never did, okay,

(17:26):
and so now I just have this box forever.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's uh, You'll never be able to get anything out
of it.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, basically, I'm sure maybe one day if I've really tried.
But yeah, So the first thing you got to do
is go through and try to get all these documents off,
which means powering up those computers. I would recommend probably
the easiest thing to do is just get Google Photos
for the photos. You literally install it on the computer
with their special helper app and it will scan the
hard drive and upload all the photos to there. I
would do that with the documents you're just gonna have

(17:51):
to go through and kind.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Of grab what's what you need. Yeah, I love that
you have a Palm Trio. I will tell you a story.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I've been obsessed with cell phones for my entire life basically,
and I remember making my wife drive.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
When I lived in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
The closest best Buy was like three hours away, and
so I think it was three hours, and so we
had to drive three hours to buy this phone. This
Palm Trio that came out was brand new, and I
had to have it the first day. And I drive
there and then we get to the checkout and it
was like eight hundred bucks, you know, like full price
or whatever. Like I think it was five ninety nine,
which seemed like a lot, you know. And I get

(18:26):
there and she's.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Like six hundred bucks. She didn't tell me it was
that much.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Because like a lot of times, cell phones were like
free at the time, you know, like right, one hundred
bucks or whatever. This was before iPhone and anyway, so
I just remember driving to this and getting and now
I think of that phone, Oh my gosh, and that
phone is like it was cool at the time. Now
it'd be like nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
If you had it.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, so anyway, so I'm glad you have the Palm Trio. Now,
when it comes to recycling these products, no, you don't
want to just throw them in your trash can. You
can recycle them. Two places i'd recommend looking into because
I just did this with my mom. Yeah, I didn't
you tweet about that's Staples. So Staples, if you look
on their website, items accepted for free recycling is basically everything.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
So you know, let's see a cell phone.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, cell phones are on their laptops, are on their
GPS devices. Everything is recyclable there and you just bring
it to your local store. They will recycle them securely
and responsibly, any brand, any condition. The only things you
cannot bring are alkaline batteries, appliances like giant printers like
the floor, like the ones you have at your work,

(19:30):
like a printer like a kitchen, electronics, bulbs, speakers, smoke detectors,
and TVs. But they will take monitors now in California,
and this is what this is why my mom and
I actually went to Staples versus best Buy in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Best Buy will take a lot of this stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
There is a limitation so you have to put in
your zip code and it will tell you a lot
of times you can only bring back like three items
a day, so you can bring in like three you know, computers,
but they I'm at three household items per.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Day because they just don't want to have They.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Don't want to you know, bring like a dump truck,
you know, and plus that could. Yeah, I think it's
mainly for like let's say I started a company where
I go to your house and like collect all your stuff.
Then I just dump it off like at the end
of the week at best Buy. They want to keep
that probably at Bay. So the average person, you know,
three things.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So again, in a.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Lot of cities or a lot of states, if you
want to do a monitor at best Buy, they're going
to charge you twenty five dollars, which is still pretty
darn good. You can bring it for free to Staples,
so I'd always go to Staples. Yeah, if you can,
if you can. But in California they don't have any
drop off fees. So again, California, like I talk about,
is very progressive and a lot of their laws and things,

(20:44):
they clearly want people to recycle properly, and so there
are no fees for drop offs in California. Now I'm
telling you this based on what I see on the website.
I would call just to be sure. Like I called
Staples before I went in and asked them, and you know,
they told me all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So just call wherever you are. But two really easy
ways to recycle stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
And believe me, it's I actually have a TV because
I upgraded a little TV in the playroom and I'm
gonna bring that to one of these, probably just Staples,
and just bring that in and get it recycled.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
No, it's too it's too Yeah, it's too small.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And nowadays you can buy TVs for let me see, Actually,
can I not bring a TV?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Never mind, I can't bring a TV into Staples? Can
I bring a TV into Best Buy? Let's say TV
and video? You can recycle for twenty five dollars a
two a flat panel less than fifty so perfect, twenty
five bucks. So and I might also check and see
if California, like if LADWP, since we live in Los Angeles, might.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Take that for free.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
There's an app called the LA three to one one
app that is very good about helping you understand if
they'll haul away this stuff for free. Good question, and
I'm glad I just did that with my mom. I
was a little concerned with the hard drive on the
laptop or the computer, because you know, it's still had
some stuff on there, and they say they're going to
wipe it and do it responsibly.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I just hope they do that, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And that's the other thing my recommendation. I just recycled
my other laptop through Apple. I did wipe everything off
there manually with my moms. It was too old and
kind of decrepit that we didn't want to do that.
But I would recommend if you can, to wipe your stuff,
even though these companies say they're.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Going to do it for you, but you never know,
just in case, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
You might get some kid in there that's like, uh,
let me take a look at this, and you know,
it's just yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Better better just to feel secure in knowing that your
stuff is gone.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Speaking of personal information, it might be easier to file
your taxes this year for free.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I always knew that into it. You know, the.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Developers of Turbo tax, which by the way, I've used
to file my taxes, and I actually was very impressed
with their system. But what I don't like is on
the back end of what into It and TurboTax are
doing is their lobbying to make taxes way more complicated
than they need to be. And if you've ever filed
your taxes, which I'm sure you have, is this year
your first year?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Maybe this is like my second year. Yeah, it's it's
kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's it's just this whole big thing where like nobody
really knows, and you talk to five different people, you
get five different answers, and so it's just kind of annoying.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But anyway, so here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
IRS and into It and all these companies that make
these these turbo or these tax filing systems. They basically
had a deal for many years that they would hide
their free products from search engines like Google, so that
it made it tough for people to find them. So
when you search for like online tax filing, you wouldn't
immediately find the free filing from Turbo Tax. You would

(23:37):
just find their paid and maybe if you hunted down
on their website you might see something about free, but
then you might not be able to cross reference.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
You're like, well that seems kind of shady, Like why
would I do.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So, apparently this is all ending and now you can.
You'll be able to find the free filing options a
lot easier this year, which is good. Now, when you
look at free filing options, it doesn't apply to everyone.
It's you have to make under a certain amount and
your your return has to be a certain simplicity. So
if you run a small business, you're doing an LLC,

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or you've got a schedule see or all these random
things that people have, you're not gonna be able to
file for free. You still need to get and you
probably want to have a tax professional that knows what
they're doing. But if you have like one W two
and you work one job like I think you do,
it's pretty simple. You put in your stuff and you
can file for free.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's nice as long as you as long as you
have to. There's an income limit.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, and I don't know what that limit is, but
they're you know, you can see it on there. But
the point is, isn't it crazy that these companies like
the I R S and you know these other you know,
tax companies had a deal. And by the way, I
got to give props where it's due. Pro publica is
the I guess journalistic or the journalism organization that sort

(24:50):
of forced these changes because they kept doing things about
highlighting these little kind of shady deals that these companies had.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
And I read somewhere that they were targeting students too,
out of student like just out of college students.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, I believe it, yeah, because think about it. If
you have one W two and you have like, that's
a lot of people in the US. Yeah, and so
if they can all file for free, but a lot
of times you don't realize that.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
And even if they can get five or ten dollars
out of.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
You times millions of people in the US, that's a
significant amount of money totally. So we'll see if this
year it's better. The other thing that it frees the
IRS up to do is to create their own system
for filing.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I kind of have mixed feelings on this because on
the one side, I say, well, who knows taxes better
than the irs?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
And the IRS should theoretically know how much you made
because all of these companies are reporting to them. Right,
if you're a legit company, when you get your W two,
your company is also reporting that information to the IRS,
And so for you Megan, you would log on and
just you'd like put in your social and they'd be like, oh,
here's your information that we got from your company. Is
this all correct? And then they would calculate your taxes

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and say, boom boom boom, you're done.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Why can't they do that?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Now they can? Now they're free to do that. I
haven't created that system. Now, the other side of me says, oh,
wait a second, do I really trust the irs to say.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Here's how much you made?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
And now let's say they say you made more than
you made? Now you have to fight that information and
kind of like and then I'm like, you.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Owe us exactly thousand dollars and you're like, oh, I
thought I was going to make some money.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Right, So I see both sides, yeah, and you know,
so we'll see what happens. But the bottom line is
I think it's good that they kind of dropped these
weird do not compete agreements they had that we didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Really know about.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
This next question comes from Marsha Love Love the show.
What is the easiest way to get MP three music
ripped from CDs that are on my Windows ten computer
to play on my iPhone without using iTunes. Is there
an app you recommend that will sync with my computer?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Oh? Yes, there is.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I love this question because I love this app. It
is the best app you'll ever find what I phone.
It is called Walter two and I believe I've talked
about it on this podcast before. It might have predated Megan,
but wa l t R two. And once you install
this on your computer, whether you have a Mac or

(27:13):
a PC, you literally drag and drop any file, not
just an MP three. You can drag and drop a
book file. You can drag and drop a MP three file.
You can drag and drop a PDF. I don't know,
maybe not PDFs, but basically yeah, maybe pdf let's see, Yeah, PDFs, ringtones, videos,

(27:34):
anything that you can find. The iPhone is amazing because
it plays all these like crazy files and stuff and
you can have your music on there, your.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Videos, your books.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
But a lot of times to get them on there
in the past, it's been kind of tough. And that
leads a lot of people to just buy things from iTunes. Yeah,
and to buy books from Apple Books because when you
go to like a lot of people when they're buying
my book, they would say, rich, you'd go to the
Amazon app, I would say, if you go to try
to buy the Kindle version of my book, it would

(28:04):
say this is not compatible with this app or this
iPhone or something like that, which is totally confusing because
it is compatible. It's just you can't buy it from
the Amazon app. You have to actually buy it from
a desktop and then download it to your phone.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
So it's right anyway.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So it's little things like this that makes Walter Too
so cool. And what they did was they kind of
reverse engineered how iTunes works, and they figured out where
when you drag something into iTunes and sink it to
your phone, they figured out how to make it route
into the right app. So if you drag a video file,
which by the way, it can be any format because

(28:40):
iPhone is very picky about the formats that it plays.
So you can take any format video file and just
drag it into this app. It will convert it all
in the background and.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Put it on your phone.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It is really fantastic. And you know people that have
old music, you know old music videos, old like like
old CDs that you want to rip and back in
the day and what was the person's name again, Oh, Marsha,
Marsha was saying that she doesn't want to use iTunes.
I mean, iTunes, as far as I know, back in
the day, always had a ripping solution in it. I

(29:10):
don't know if it still does now that they've you know,
changed iTunes and they've changed it now to just music
it's called. But it was very easy to just rip
things and also get them onto your phone or your iPod.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Now I think that's a little bit too tough.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Anyway, Walter two is the app that you should definitely
try out and just go ahead and you know, try it.
You can download it for free if you want to
use it indefinitely.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I believe you have to pay. I think it's forty dollars. Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I've had this app for years, and I kind of
forget about it every now and then because so much
of what I do now is like, like I pay
for YouTube so I can download. Actually I don't pay
for it anymore. I just canceled that, but I'm probably
gonna reget that. But you know, like YouTube, you could,
you know, It's just I don't really have a need
to put all these random files on my phone anymore.
But if I did, this is the way that I

(29:59):
would do. It's so easy when you drag and drop stuff.
You will not believe how.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Simple it is. It's really cool. That's awesome. So anyway,
Walter too.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
It's made by a company called softer Reno, soft O Reno.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh, great question.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
All right, let's talk about what people ordered on Amazon
over the holidays. It feels like the holidays were so
long ago because we've gone through Christmas, we've gone through
New Year's New Year's Eve. So but let's take a
look back at what Amazon said was most popular. This
was a record breaking holiday season. Of course they say
that because Amazon continues to grow at a fast clip,

(30:36):
so every year is going to be record breaking. When
it's not, we have a problem. That means that Amazon
has stopped growing. And Amazon, as big as they seem,
you know.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
They still have a very far away to go.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
And I know a lot of people think that they
rule the world, but believe me, there's still other places
out there. I have a theory that at the end
of the day, the only places left standing have I
told you this before, are going to be Target, Walmart, Amazon,
and like Kroger. Oh, and then once those are the
only four and they put all the little places out
of business. It's like game over for prices. It's like

(31:09):
all the prices are gonna go all the same.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Oh yeah, they're gonna go up. Yeah, because it's like
now you have no other options. Like it's crazy. It's
pretty crazy. So anyway, interesting theory.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Some of the most best selling products are most or
some of the best selling products this holiday season. Where
the Echo Dot, the Fire TV Stick with Alexa Voice Remote,
the Echo Show five, Lol Surprise, Glitter Globe Doll, Winter
Disco Series with Glitter hair, I Robot, Roombus six seventy
five House laboratories.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
What is that? What ha Us Laboratories? What is that?
I have no idea what that is?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh, it is Cruelty Free Vegan cosmetics by Lady Gaga,
Sore you go on Amazon, Yep, Carhart, Amazon Basics, and
Champion Items. Amazon said they now have seven hundred and
fifty thousand employees worldwide. Top ten cities that use an
Amazon Locker or Amazon counter where Chicago, followed by Los Angeles,

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New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Jose, Berkeley, Austin, and Columbus.
The last delivery from Amazon occurred on Christmas Eve at
eleven to fifty nine PM in Seattle. That makes sense.
Seattle is like their hometown. Some of the most popular
recipes that folks asked the A word about, you know,
rhymes with babexa were Thanksgiving turkey chocolate chip cookies and

(32:33):
fluffy mashed potatoes. The most searched for holiday movie on
Fire TV was Home Alone, followed by Elf and The Grinch.
Nothing has changed with holiday movies in recent years. It's
like nothing has there been a new one. I did
watch that new one called Noel on Disney Plus with.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Cups. Yeah cups? Is it called cups or so called cups? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, it was okay, Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And some of the best selling books at Amazon Bookstore
was dog Man Fetch twenty two, which I actually bought
from my kid but at Target. So I didn't contribute
to that, okay, And that was not a Christmas gift,
but that was just a flying on the plane gift.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So uh. Anyway, So that's the information about Amazon. Nice.
I love I kind of like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Sure you saw this, but all the end of your lists,
I mean there's so many, there're a dime a dozen.
I kind of like I don't find them that interesting.
It's like the top artist that people listen to, it's
like Drenk.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, like oh.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Taylor Swift, Oh okay, I could have you know, It's
like there's not much insight. There's one going around very predictable.
There's one going around about like the top rock songs,
and like nine out of ten were like imagine dragons
or something. You know, it's just kind of like, yeah,
we get it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
We already know.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
This next question comes from Tony Love your segment on
Channel five. Is there a way to recover deleted texts,
especially those containing photos on your kind of phone?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
But?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Uh, be sure with iPhone once it's gone, I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Gonna guess it's iPhone.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
But there's a couple things even if you have iPhone
or Android, and I don't think either of these methods
are gonna be one hundred percent, But if you do
an iCloud backup of your system, there is if you
look in your like, okay, so there's two ways that
I messages are backed up. The first way is in
the messages app. If you look in there, there's like

(34:27):
a little toggle in iCloud that says backup messages and
if you ever notice if you sign into like a
new phone or a new computer. And this is new
by the way, as of like last year when Apple
introduced this, but all your messages are synced now across
devices and that's I message, that's called I Messages in
the cloud. You may or may not have that turned
on a lot of people don't want to turn it
on because I don't know about you. But I have

(34:48):
like five different devices, and when I get a text,
they're like all going off with the I message, kind
of annoying. I go to my iPad and like, all
my text messages are there that like you know, I've.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Already seen and stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But I see the benefit of it because you have
all your messages in all your different places. That's number one.
Now if you deleted it from there, I would say.
The place to look is your iCloud backup. And this
is kind of the master backup of your entire phone
that happens every night when you plug your phone in
and you leave it overnight to charge. So to find that,
you have to go into your iCloud and just look
for your iPhone backup. Now, you can't just go through

(35:21):
your iPhone backup and kind of rifle through it.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's all like mix exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
But there are programs that will allow you to decipher
what's on that backup. So the iPhone backup or the
iCloud backup was never really meant to like, it's not
like a file where you can just click through. Like
ideally it would be a file system where it would
say photos, text messages, apps, whatever, data, and you would
just be able to click through everything.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's Apple. They don't make it like that.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
They make it all compressed and weird, and it's a
million things. But there are apps that will sort through
that data and help you find those text messages. I
don't know why this person needs to find those. I'm
assuming there was a password contained in some of those,
or a screenshot of a password. The screenshot of a

(36:10):
password that he forgot is the only way to recover it.
I'm assuming this is not like, you know, cheating or
spousal or whatever, or just assuming this is very kind,
kind natured. But that's what I would say, is you
got to find some sort of a third party app
to do this.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Now you can retrieve that backup and then.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Put it back onto your phone. But like recover it,
but it gets kind of complicated exa then erase it.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
All this stuff on your phone. It seems like a.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Third party app, which, by the way, you have to
pay for these things. I think a popular one was
like doctor Phone. Doctor f O n E is a
popular one for a long time and that has data
recovery solutions for and I haven't used this app.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Often.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
These companies will send me these apps to kind of
look at, and I'll a lot of them are are
from you know, overseas companies, and I'll try them and it's.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Like, okay, I see it.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
But anyway, doctor Phone from wonder Share is one that
you might try. But I would check into some of
these things and just see and you can. By the way,
Android also does backups of your data as well more
and more now, so I would check you can use
these programs for either one of those.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
But if you've deleted a text, like if you delete
a thread, yeah it's gone.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's pretty much gone.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeahah, but if you wanted to find it you could.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, Okay, I'm giving the theory of let's say you
deleted it, you have to look at your backup and
let's say you have several backups. Yeah, like almost like
a time machine backup of like Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
Like you have to go back in time to find
that text.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Because if you're just doing a backup every night that
erases the old backup, then it's gonna be gone because
if you waited twenty four hours, that backup has pushed
out the old one. So again, this is tough because
it all depends on how you back up your phone
and what you're using to back it up, and how
you back it up and how often if you didn't.
Sometimes people plug in their phone and they look in
their backup and it has not backed up in three

(38:02):
weeks and you don't even know that.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Then that might be.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Your best case scenario because this text is in there
and it was You're like, yes, I didn't back up
last night. So it really sort of depends on so
many things. That's why I say it's very tricky to
do this. Well, it is a new year, and people
are trying to be more mindful in the new year.
People like my wife who was like, I'm downloading a
journaling app to journal my life every day, and I said,

(38:26):
good luck with that, because most people basically do this
for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's kind of like going to the gym.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
You go for the first couple weeks of the year,
and then you drop off, and that's it.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
What's negative?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You're right, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And I say this because I actually downloaded one of
these apps last year to try to start. It wasn't
actually for journaling, it was more for a daily It
actually was for journaling because I wanted to keep I
remember this because I don't use Facebook anymore, like personally,
and Facebook used to be basically a journal because you
would write, like what you did that day, and you'd
show a picture of you with your kids, you know,

(39:00):
back in the day with your friends, like going out
to dinner or whatever, and it would be shared. Now
Instagram is kind of like that, but you're only doing
that like once a day, or you know, for a
lot of people are not even doing once an Yeah,
it depends on you know, you know, it depends on
how often you're using that, right, But the point is
a journal is much more private.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
You can put you know, private.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Thoughts in there anyway, whatever your need. I did some
research on some of these journals to see which one
I like, and which one I think you'll like. I
came up with one, two, three, four five, And there's
one that really stands out to me.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Out of all these journals. There's actually two that stand out.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
But anyway, the first one is called Reflectively and this
is kind of there's two journals that I've noticed.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Two types of journals.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
One is just like a diary that's online and you
just type in stuff and it helps you kind of
like put dates on there and pictures. The other is
a guided journal, which I think is actually more useful
in this day and age because if you're going to
have an app that's a journaling app, it should prompt
you with certain things like how do you feel today?
Or what you do today? Or who would you hang
out with, so that you don't have to think of everything,

(40:02):
you know kind of yeah, and it's asking you different
things throughout the week. Theoretically, if you just want to
write down your thoughts, you get a pad and paper.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
That's what I have a journal.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, yeah, wow, you do well.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
In my intro, I say that journaling is not just
for teenagers anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
It's not because you really think.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Of journaling for teenagers, but when you talk about mindfulness
and all this. You know, people are trying to get
this heightened sense of awareness of themselves.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Journaling is a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And you know, it's different than social media because on
social media you're just putting your highs.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
You're not really putting your real thoughts or your real
you know, just everything not as vulnerable exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
And so that's and some people that pretend they are,
Like there's some people I follow that you know, they'll
post these things, but like even the vulnerable picture or
the vulnerable thoughts are really crafted to be.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
You know, yeah whatever it is, right right. So Reflectively
is a guided journaling app.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
This one asks you just asks you a series of
questions like how is your day, what did you do?
How did you feel? The entries are called stories. They're
really easy to complete, and it's free for seven days.
It's forty eight dollars a year after that. So that's Reflectively.
I wasn't I thought it was fine. It wasn't like
you know, it was like it was okay. Daily oh
daylo helps you keep a personal diary without actually writing.

(41:19):
You pick your moods and activities, so it's like happy, sad, whatever,
and then what activities you did, so you know, Jim
this that. I thought the funny thing was it didn't
say work, so I actually had to add work as
an activity, which I thought was like kind of weird
that they left that out. But maybe they don't want
you to talk about work because I don't know. Yeah, wait,
what if you want to add more context or context?

(41:39):
You can also include some notes in your entries. The
app also helps you create goals, like if you want
to watch more movies, read more, or eat healthy. It
kind of tracks those achievements, so every time you mark
that you watched a movie that day, you can see
at the end of the month, did I watch more
movies than last month? So that's kind of cool. I
like that there's a daily calendar tool so you can

(42:00):
see your daily mood, so if you put your mood in,
you can see like all green days, all red days,
all yellow days, all at a glance.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
So that's kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
And you can pay twenty four dollars for the yearly
premium plan with the ability to lock the app with
a pin, so I think that's kind of funny as
they hold you hostage with that, which you know that's
kind of funny. Yeah, Journey is. They do let you
set a pass code for free. They even let you
store your entries in Google Drive for safekeeping, and they
have apps for lots of different platforms, so some of
these are only iOS or some of them are only Android.

(42:31):
This one is pretty much very close to a digital diary.
You know, you start an entry, it's all time stamped,
and then at the bottom there's these little buttons that
lets you.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Add where you are, who you're with, how you feel.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And also attachments like photos, So it's kind of like
a digital journal that kind of helps you along but
doesn't necessarily ask you stuff. Plans on this one are confusing.
I cannot figure out for the life of me what
the difference is between the monthly membership plan or the
lifetime premium plan, because the lifetime premium is like eight dollars,
but then the monthly like three dollars, So why would
you not just go with the lifetime. I don't think

(43:03):
the lifetime includes all the membership option.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
It's very strange.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
But anyway, now, if you just want a standard digital diary,
the one I recommend is called Day one.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Super straightforward. You kind of open it up.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You get a time stamped entry that just starts with
an entry, and then you can add what you like,
including video, so there's like video, audio, photos, drawings, or
a scan. So let's say you go to a concert,
you can scan your ticket, put it in there, and
you still have a paper ticket, which you probably a
screenshot at this point, and it's thirty.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Five dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
It gives you all the features, so a lot of
things Like I started writing a text entry and that
was fine. As soon as I want to add a photo,
it was like, you gotta pony up to thirty five bucks,
which I think is fine. The other thing that's kind
of cool, depending on how you use this is you
can turn your entries into a printed book at the
end of the year. Oh just kind of neat, so
you can print out. This was my second favorite Day one, Yeah,

(43:56):
so I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
My favorite is jore.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I think that's how you say it, jou want okay.
And you can tell this is a very slick, very
high end app that was designed with kind of today's
users in mind. It nudges you with questions like how
do you feel right now? And it kind of guides
you through, like like when I set it up, it
was like three different questions and you just type the answers.
It even has like some of the answers started, so

(44:21):
it can be like I feel dot dot dot and
you tap that and it starts to write that, and
then you just have to type the rest or I've
been doing dot dot dot and then you type that.
So it like kind of nudges you to like think,
which I thought was really great. They also have motivational
quotes to help you along, and you're always free to
start a fresh new entry without all the other stuff
as well. Premium Undure it's kind of expensive. It's sixty

(44:42):
dollars a year. That gives you the ability to add
photos to your entry. So again, all these all these
diary apps, if you really want to get the most
out of them, you're gonna have to pay. Yeah, I
mean it makes sense and it's fine. Otherwise, just use
the notes app on your phone and that's free.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
You know, if you want.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Free or Google doc you could like start, Yeah, you
can do that, so Google doc for twenty twenty of
all your.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
But what I like about these apps is I think
they nudge you to think in different ways, like with
the day one, the way that it showed like scans
or a picture, like you just draw a little picture
of like a little sketch one day.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You know, it's kind of fun, like yeah or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I think that's kind of neat versus just like a
Google doc, which is free, but it's just different. It's
a different These apps are kind of there to nudge
you into doing this right kind of therapy.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, pretty much, really ask you questions.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Premium is sixty dollars a year and let's see I said,
it gives you the ability to have a photos. It
also gives you access to a library of lessons on gratitude,
self confidence, and more. The Juror app reminds me of
Headspace a lot, and it actually made me wonder why
Headspace doesn't have or maybe it does a journaling function
built in or this might be a very good target

(45:50):
for Headspace to acquire to build that into their app.
And once you have those two together, meditation and the
journal app, it's like game over.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I'm googling it. So journaling in.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Headspace I don't think they do, but yeah, anyway, that
is going to do it for the show.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
If you can believe it. I feel like these shows
just get shorter and shorter, but they don't. That's just
the way it is.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Thanks so much for listening, Thanks for watching in the
new year on KTLA five. You also got me on
social media at rich on Tech on Instagram. Coming up
upon cees in the next week, so I will be
doing a lot there with social media and the little
videos and showing you all the cool stuff that I
see there.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Let's see what else? Oh, something that's new.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
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Speaker 2 (47:03):
Keep in mind you can listen to this.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Podcast on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, basically wherever you listen
to audio, they have all become podcasting apps as well,
so don't forget about that. You don't need two separate
apps now to listen to your podcast. It's basically all
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Speaker 2 (47:20):
Let's see I think that's gonna do it. Producer Megan.
Where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm on Twitter, Producer Megan.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Producer Megan on Twitter, and the website is rich on
tech dot tv. If you want to leave a question,
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Speaker 2 (47:38):
Thanks so much for listening. Have a fantastic day. We'll
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