January 9, 2020 • 51 mins
Recorded on the show floor at CES 2020 Las Vegas in Renovo's fully autonomous Chrysler Pacifica.Rich & Meghan discuss Colgate's new toothbrush that tells you when you've actually cleaned your teeth; A ride in Qualcomm's self driving car; a Pizza making robot; LG's Veggie Growing Refrigerator; Fingerprint Door Lock; Arlo Pro 3 Wireless Floodlight Security Camera. Special Guest Renovo CEO Chris Heiser talks about the future of data collection in cars. Plus listener questions answered!Follow Rich on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/richontech/Follow Meghan on Twitter:https://twitter.com/producermeghanSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
No initiating rich on Tech. What's going on? Rich Demiro here?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Rich on Tech coming to you from the CS convention
show floor. This is the podcast where we talk about
the tech stuff I think you should know about and
we answer your tech questions.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Producer Megan is with me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We let me just paint the scene for you. Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are in the back of a minivan, a Chrysler
pacifica totally souped up like this is the best minivan
I've ever been in, literally on the CES show floor
here in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States, Earth Eric Galaxy one.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm just bringing it out in case you listen in
different worlds, you know, But I'm telling you CES twenty
twenty here in Las Vegas is quite the show. We
have been here since Sunday CS. Let me just let
me just explain what CS is all about. If you
have never been, Uh, it is the wildest ride you
can imagine for technology because what they do is they
(01:08):
just have literally one hundred and seventy thousand people from
around the world, plus companies from around the world that
all come here to kind of show off the latest
and greatest. And when I say, a lot of people,
a lot of stuff. Megan, this is your.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Second time, Yeah, my second time.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
How does it differ from your first time?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I think the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
First time, I had just started this job, but it
was just like a complete like a shock, like to
the system.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But we also went to see US Asia this year,
and I remember in see us Asia, I felt like
like I kind of understood how to walk around the
floor and like I had a better understanding. And this time,
I think it's just like every time you start to
get it right right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, Like when I first went to CS, it'd be
like Vegas. Oh my gosh, party, party, party, work, work, work,
no sleep, no sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And I realized by the end of the time, I'm
just kidding.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You're no, you're for someone your age. You're very You're
you've been very tame. Believe me, because ten years ago
at CS for me way wild. I mean it was
just insane. I mean I remember going out like nine
o'clock at night to parties and just you know, getting
up at two am for my stuff on KTLA. And
I don't really do that anymore because I probably can't.
(02:18):
I can't do you know, yeah, my body can't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm a grandma, so I can't even do that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Megan producer, Grandma Meghan.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So we saw so many things this week. I saw
so many things. My camera roll is just overflowed with stuff.
I saw everything from the latest automated cars. I took
us a drive and a self driving car from Qualcom.
We saw so many robots, We saw little gadgets, we
saw big gadgets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I saw adult gadgets.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was the first year that they had this at
the show floor, and that was very interesting because it's
all just kind of mixed in to the stuff here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
What else I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I just walked around this morning for about three hours
over at what's called this This is like another convention center.
It's CS is so big that it can't fit under
one roof and it takes over the entire town. And
I walked over there and they had an entire area
of like all the international companies and all these little
tiny startups from France and Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And I got ramen out of a ramen vending machine,
which was so amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And here's what I will tell you, and I probably
talk about this on this podcast a lot, but I
love being media at events like this, and the reason
why I love being media at events like this and
someone's opening the door to our minivan here, yeah, is
that they they love to take care of you. And
I walked right up to the vending machine. I was like,
you know, they're not really doing samples. I'm like, would
(03:39):
you mind making a sample? And sure, they made me
hot ramen in forty five seconds, which, by the way,
I wolfed down.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It was so delicious.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I went up to this coke vending machine where
they have this new thing called Coke Energy, and I'm like, hey,
you know, mind if I get a you know, this
huge line, and then you know, if you go up
to a booth, they're always maybe locked the door. Actually,
you go up to a booth and you know they
want to accommodate you.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Immediately give you a demo and.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They roll out the red carpet for you because they
know that you can amplify the message of what they're
trying to show. And I love my favorite thing about
cs just finding little, cool, awesome things. And so I'm
going to go through a whole bunch of gadgets that
I saw, you know, and look, if you want me
to talk about what you know Samsung did or what
(04:24):
Sony did. You're probably not going to hear too much
about that at this podcast because I more want to
find the little things. You're gonna of course hear those
in the headlines. But I found a lot of little
things I thought were really cool. And yeah, I'll have
some big companies as well, but I think the number
one thing, I'll just start with the pizza robot, because
this has gone viral on my Twitter.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yah, and this was actually Megan's find.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But we went to this company called Picnic and they
make a robot that makes pizzas really fast, and it
got a lot of play on Twitter because one of
the presidential candidates retweeted my tweet about it, and when
that happened, people it just went crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It exploded.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, and so this little.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Robot was really tough to get because it's making pizzas
for the people at the convention center. And everyone was
debating on Twitter, like I said, it had AI and
people are like, oh, there's no AI. That's just an
assembly robot. It's just a basic automation robot. But that's
not true. What we showed was it making pizza. But
what it can do is. It can make tacos, it
can assemble salads, It can assemble anything that has ingredients
(05:29):
and some sort of whatever you put them on a
bun or sandwich, tacos, subway. Imagine a subway sandwich artist
being displaced by this machine. And then people get on
me because they say, Rich, are you trying to take
away everyone's jobs. I'm not creating robot, I'm not promoting it.
(05:52):
This is my job to cover this. Would you rather
not know that this is coming down the line? If
there was an automated check producer, would you rather be
blindsided by the fact that I'm, like, Megan, I'm replacing
you with a robot.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
No, I mean, like I compared it to you know,
manufacturing cars, you know, back fifty years ago or whenever
they switched from humans to robots, Like of course people
were upset, and now it's just the way it is.
And cars are made by robots. Food, I mean, made
by robots sounds kind of crazy, but at the same time,
it's like it's safer, it's not you know, there's a
(06:25):
lot of good to it as.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, and there's also like, i mean, it's little things
like if you're running a business. And let's say that
you have humans doing this. Out of every five pizzas
or I don't know what the number is, the human
probably makes a mistake that's big enough to ruin that pizza.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Or when they put.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The cheese on, they're putting on ten percent more than
they should, or they're putting on olives and five olives
every hour fall off.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Onto the floor. Yeah, well, the robot.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And this is where these business minds come in. They say, look,
we're going to cut costs by ten percent and boom,
Now you've just increased productivity. Now I get it, that
person that was previously making that pizza is now displaced,
but there are people that need to program these devices,
and the people that were making the pizzas are now
in a different position at that workplace. And yes, sometimes maybe,
(07:14):
if you want to look at it, maybe it's a
zero you know, I don't think it's a zero sum game.
I think that there's always something else happening somewhere else where.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
People always find a way.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And look, if humans are going to put humans out
of business when it comes to jobs, we're all going
to have to figure that out. And with some of
these things, they just it just happens at the ground
up and we just have to all deal with it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Check out the pizza robot video and oh sorry, wrong one.
There we go, and we're still going to do some
of your questions as well.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So actually this is a follow up email from this
guy named Alan. He had emailed you about when you
were on Leo's show and you mentioned the ESM called
aaro Loow. Well he went on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
To actually try it, so he said that it look
it's too good to be true. And then basically you had.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Told him that you were going to try it, and
then he said he was going to try it, and
then the update is it looks as if it works
very well. I tried out the five dollars one gigabyte
seven days and later have got gone up to the
twenty eight dollars ten gigabytes thirty days and it works
very nicely.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So what is this eSIM called Arrolow?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I don't okay, so air a l o aer arrol Errolow.
And so I saw this website.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was a brand new website and eSIMs, if you're
not familiar with the concept, A lot of the new smartphones,
especially the iPhones, and some of the other devices out there,
like the Pixel.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They have what's called.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
An eSIM, which means have you ever seen that little
card that's inside your phone, the simcard. Well, now they're
doing away with that, and that little number on that
card is actually built into your phone sort of, and
so you can have what's a virtual SIM card, so
you could activate your phone on Verizon without popping a
SIM card in because Verizon just says, hey, give us
those numbers on your phone and we'll just connect it
(09:04):
all and make it work, which makes things really convenient.
Now for international travel, it gets really interesting because what
this Aerolo site does is lets you buy an eSIM
before you even leave the country, and they have him
available for all these different countries, over one hundred countries.
You go online and let's say I'm going to France
and I can buy seven days of data one gig
(09:26):
for three bucks, or I can buy thirty days five
gigs of data for nine dollars, and I can have
this activated on my phone before I even leave. And
so what was his name again, Alan? Alan called me
on the Leo Show. I told him about this, he said,
and then he emailed me. He said, Rich that's too
good to be true. That doesn't work, there's no way.
And I said, well, you try it and I'll try
it and we'll see because we're both discovering this. Yeah,
(09:47):
and sure enough he emailed me back and he said
it works great, and so I will be using this
on my next international trip. Yeah, it's just a nice
thing to know about ai rlo dot com. I was
wondering about China because that's actually the second country and
it does have China com prepaid five days five gigs
of data. Thirty days is sixteen bucks. Now I burned
(10:07):
through five gigs of data in maybe five minutes. Yeah,
probably a couple of days, so that you know, I'd
probably need a couple of those. But if you look
at what Verizon does and at and T, I usually
recommend their travel pass or what they call passport that's
using your normal number and it's ten dollars a day
in the countries that you go to, and they only
give you about a half a gig a day, but
(10:27):
unlimited calling. So anyway, this is way better. So check
it out Arlo dot com. If you're traveling on a
trip internationally and you have a newer phone that will
let you use an e sim and it's pretty cool.
All right, Let's talk about another product that we saw
here at the show, The LG Veggie Fridge I call it,
and this is LG Electronics.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They it's specifically called a indoor gardening appliance.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I think it's called the Vegetable Cultivator. But this was
another one that kind of went viral.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Because it just looks so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's a column fridge that you install in your kitchen
and it grows little, tiny leafy plants in the fridge.
And yes, it's basil, it's tiny, you know, maybe bib
lettuce or butter lettuce or whatever. But obviously your mind
goes to what is the other leafy thing that people
grow at home?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Was kidding? Marijuana?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You can't see so, and we're in California, where you know,
depending on I mean, I think you have. I'm not
an expert on this by anyway, but I'm pretty sure
that like there's something where you can have like three
little plants or something.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Now I'm not an expert, so if.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can't do, not say that rich, But the reality is,
I imagine that people would probably try this, and that's
kind of why it went viral because because we said
it was a refriger that lets you grow your own herbs,
and I guess herb is probably.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Slang for you know, marijuana. So no matter what, this
fridge is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
There are some caveats to it, so it controls the air,
the humidity or I should say the temperature, the humidity,
and the water. And it's not just like you can
plant anything in there, although I'm sure people will try,
but it's much more high tech than that. They come
in little pods that LG cells, and so I think
you put these pods in there, Yeah, like a little
seed pod. I doubt I doubt they're gonna have a
(12:21):
weed pod anytime.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Going to you never know, So that's really fun.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
But I just thought thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And again, you know something's really expensive when they can't
tell you how much it costs. We did not get
a price on the veggie fridge, but I imagine it's
for rich people because it's one of those fridges that
kind of looks like one of those what's that big brand,
like the Viking or the you know the really.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Nice I think.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Viking, Yeah, like the really nice fridge sub zero, you
know those kind of Really the fridge is that when
your fridge blends in with your cabinets.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, you are rich.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's like it's well, you know what I'm saying, Like
it looks like it just your cabinet is the same
exact facade as the fridge.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It's literally literally customed.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yes, you're doing okay goals. Yeah, that's that's the LG
Veggi fridge.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But this does have a clear glass fridge in front
or a glass window in front of it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
All right, Megan, you're up.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So this next question is from Maria. She's asking about
sharing large videos on an Android. I was wondering if
you could help me. My daughter's on a drill team.
I take a lot of videos of her. And many
of the moms have iPhones and can air drop videos
to each other, but I have an Android. Do you
have any tips on the best way to share large
(13:35):
videos to other Android users and iPhone users also from
an iPhone to an Android.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh of course.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, So the main thing with uh this has been
a problem because Android and if your iPhone to iPhone,
it's all good. Yeah, because you have air drop, you
have iCloud. People will send you an I Cloud link.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You can literally you have I Message, you can share
a big video through message, whatever you want. It's iPhone
to iPhone has never been a problem. It's just the
simplest thing, which is why iPhone users are very hesitant
when it comes to sharing with Android users because it
never looks good the video. If you send it by text,
it's gonna look like garbage. And you're like, well, how
else would I send it? Like, I don't know how
(14:17):
what do I do? And the Android people are like, well,
can you use like Google Photos or face Facebook Messenger?
And of course the iPhone person doesn't want to download
anything new, and so it's this whole big thing. And
I see this all the time with my family and friends.
So here's what I'm recommend.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I would say probably the easiest is Dropbox. So just
get just get a Dropbox account, get a free one.
I'm not sure what the Dropbox gives you for free
these days.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It used to be like to like a gig or something.
I don't even know how much it is.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Dropbox they don't even I mean, it's like Dropbox business
is like so they're not even targeting like regular people anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But it seems like you could probably get a dropbox.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm guessing you can get a personal d drop box
at this point. Maybe you can't anyway, so dropbox will
probably be the easiest. If you can still get a dropbox,
Google Drive she mentioned that will work. The problem is
it's really like people don't want to sit there and
get a link and then download the video from the
link because it's kind of a pain.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Right, isn't that drop Box too?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They're both, Yeah, it's just Dropbox a little bit easier
because it's more like a you understand the concept.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a folder that you drop something into.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You go into that folder and you pull it out, right,
so it's Google Drive. It gets a little crazier because
you're like, what is this? Is this a drive? My
soniim those are my first two choices. Then I would
say Google Photos is really good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So if you have.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Google Photos on your phone, which if you're Android you
probably do, just click the little share and it says
share link. You can just share a link and they'll
be able to download that photo as well or that
video file. You can do a shared album, which this
was really cool. I went to a birthday party. I
probably mentioned this on the podcast, but my friend she
made a shared photo album of the birthday party and
(15:56):
she sent the link to us, and literally I was
able to drag and drop my pictures onto that album
and everyone else of that link could see them.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that's really easy. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Then the other thing, and this is my new favorite,
and you've been using this, Megan as well. Telegram is
my new absolute favorite chat tool. And it's so great
because it's kind of like I Message but on steroids,
because it's got every feature imaginable, including you can share
large files and you can even share large files with yourself.
(16:24):
So if you send a video to yourself, you can
download the app on your computer and then download that.
They have a thing called saved Messages where you can
basically just use unlimited cloud storage. So I check out Telegram,
get all your friends on. It's actually pretty easy to
get people to sign up. I got you to sign up.
I got a bunch of my friends to sign up.
I got my wife to sign up, and we're all
kind of loving it.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I like it, right, yeah, I mean it's pretty easy,
and I do like that you can see when your
message has been read, but I know on I Message,
it's like a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Like oh yeah, like you have your read receipts on.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But like it helps especially for work, yeah, to know
like if I send a message, I know it's been
read and like you don't have to respond, but I know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
He's sadly And that's that was actually one of the
things with us with with I Message.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Either you don't have a turn on or I don't.
I forget, I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
If I have read, receive, I have read receipts.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Most people turn it off because they don't like that privacy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, they want their privacy. So that's the problem.
But with Telegram, it's on. You see a little check mark, yeah,
and it okay, so there's one check mark which means
it's been delivered and I think too when it's been read.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And then the other thing, I mean, there's so I
don't want to go through all the features of telegram,
but it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's it's a lot like BBM.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's a lot like BBM. And the other thing is
you can share. You can have it on multiple devices,
so you don't you're not just limited to like iPhone Android.
You can put on your desktop everywhere. Yeah, I have,
I have it on everywhere. You can drag and drop things,
you can what's the other things you can do that.
You can find people by username, So mine is rich
on Tech if you want to text me there now
I just gave it out, so good luck with that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So does that mean you'll like lose like if you
get a bunch of messages? Yeah, well you're like ktl
like tech like message.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh that's I think disappear.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You can pin it to the top, so I have
I have, like my wife pinned to the top, so
I see her messages way at the top. I have
our little KTLA tech pin to the top, so it's
always right at the top.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Good okay, So then you can get all your other and.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Then the other.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I've had a bunch of people text me through it
from CS and it's fine. I mean, it's like it's
very personal because it is like a text, but it's
also I know it's they don't know my number, so
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. But anyway, so those are the things I would
recommend and check them out. All right.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Another product I saw which I you know, I know,
there's a lot of Arlow fans out there. Arlow is
this wireless security camera company and people love them because
the security cams are wireless, they last for anywhere between
four and six months, and they're super easy to install
because you just stick them up and you forget about them. Well,
Arlow has now come out with a wireless floodlight cam,
(18:47):
the r Low Plo Pro three Floodlight Camera, and this
is uh it's a camera combined with an ultra bright
floodlight and it's one hundred percent wire free. It it's
super bright because they shine it in my eyes at
the event, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You just put it up and now you.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Have a flood light, which is good for security, and
you also have a camera and you're also illuminated at night.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So a lot of these floodcam are these.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
A lot of these cameras at night use IR which
doesn't look very good, and it's been black and white.
But this is full color even at night, which is
really cool. So I don't know, it's it's kind of cool.
I don't have the price on it, but I don't
know if they told me the price on it, I
can't remember. But anyway, I know there's a lot of
rlow fans out there, and this will expand your reach.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So awesome. Cool. It's getting hotter and hotter, right I know.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I was like, the van must have gone off. We
killed the battery.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
We killed the battery because the van is off and.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
We are sweating.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, all right, question producer.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Mean this next question comes from Joe. I watch you
on Fox eight News in Cleveland at twelve PM, and
I enjoy your segment very much. I'm in the market
for a smart watch with ECG capabilities. I have a
a fib and I want to keep track of it.
I understand that Apple is and the leader is the
leader in this area. However, I'm not ready to give
(20:06):
up my Android phone yet. Is there another brand out
there for Android right now?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, we're recording this in January twenty twenty. If you
talk to me in one year, it's gonna be a
whole different story. There's probably gonna be fifteen of these
things I could recommend right now. Apple Watch, EKG ECG
whatever they call it is kind of like the gold standard.
It's there right now. It monitors your heart. It monitors
what's going on with your heart. You can take an
ECG whenever you want. It'll tell you when your heart
(20:33):
rate is elevated, when it's too low, when you fall.
Apple Watch is and I've talked about this before. It's
actually become more useful to me in various ways than
the iPhone. The iPhone is still an amazing device, but
like a lot of people now can't give up their
iPhone because they have the Apple Watch and they fell
in love with it. Yeah, and there's really no other
wearable like that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Google bought Fitbit.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You can be believe that they are going to add
these features into the future fitbits for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They have to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
The other one that will have it is the Galaxy
Watch Active. I think it's called. But the Galaxy Watch
they announced this last year at their event they said
we're gonna we built in the tools to do an
EKG on this watch, but they did not activate them.
So that's what we're waiting for. And it's the.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Galaxy Watch Active too, I guess it's called.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And they we have an event with Samsung on February eleventh.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I believe hopefully we'll get an update.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Maybe they'll introduce this on stage and say, hey, it's active,
but you're talking it's been a while. I mean I
think it was like back in the summer that we
had the event where they unveil this, and anyone who
bought that that wanted that feature.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Has been waiting now six months. It's too long.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So that is the watch that I would recommend, and
hopefully they will have that very soon. They need it,
because I'm not like I used the EKG feature a lot.
But if you, like you said, he has a fib
he needs that and you know you want to be
able to have that. All right, let's see and you
can pick the next one. Which one do you want
me to talk about. I'll give you some choices. You've
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got the fingerprint door opener, you've got the self driving car.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You want to do the self driving car?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, So we both took a ride in the self
driving car from Qualcomm, and Qualcomm does not make cars,
but they make the technology that lets cars self drive,
and kind of like Renouvo. Well, it sounds like Renovo
is doing more of the car we're in, is the
Renovo car. Sounds like they're doing more of the data
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that helps all this stuff along.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
True, and these are just companies, Honestly, I know nothing
about well, neither.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Did I until you know, until we'll call Calm. I
knew about but Renovo I had not until we shot
our podcast in here. But it's you know again, the
data that these cars have is just crazy. And so
the Qualcom we get in and we you know, we
do these things blind. We like get in, We're like,
we'd have no idea what this car sign a waiver
and next thing you know, we're on the freeway at
seventy miles an hour in a car that's driving itself.
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And what was was that the first time you were
in a self driving car? Yeah, because it's been I've
been in a couple oh like that. Yes, I've been
on the freeway on a car. Yes, but this was
the most autonomous car I've ever been in.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
So yeah, I felt like it reminded Well, first of all,
I was like filming it, filming in the back, so
I was looking through a screen filming it the entire time.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But I kind of to like k not it too
freaked out about it.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I just told myself kind of like, oh, it's like
a ride at Disneyland, like don't worry, and like it's
really safe.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
But I was kind of freaked out.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I was like after, I was like whoa, Like that
car was actually going like seventy miles per hour on
the freeway and you know, like, yeah, it was crazy
and anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean the concern to me exactly is Okay, you've
seen you've been in a car where someone jerks the
wheel to the left or right and like.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They're like, oh, I had to avoid something Like imagine
a computer doing that and like next thing, you know,
you're flipping or you're rolling. I mean that's really scary.
And I think to me, it's like and we did
it and it was fine. It was only a couple
of minutes. It was you know, ten fifteen minutes, and
you know, this thing is accelerating, it's changing lanes. It
wasn't passing cars like it wasn't like going in front
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of a car that was like slow.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It wasn't aggressive that right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's not a New Yorker, Yeah, but it's a New Yorker,
I should say Jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't know whatever. I mean, I grew up on
these space Yeah, but it was really interesting. I think
they did a good job.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And what Qualcomm is saying is they're selling this platform
to automakers so that automakers, you know, can integrate this
into their cars. And the idea being is that pretty
much every car is going to have some level of
autonomy in the next three or five years. I mean,
Qualcom was targeting three years for this technology to make
it into a car on the road, So we're ways off,
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but again, that's pretty big autonomy that this car got.
As soon as we got onto the on ramp, it
was like, okay, the car was like, I'm taking over,
and the guys like takeover.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was like a it's like a back and forth.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I'm taking over.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, And so the car takes over and it's merges
onto the freeway. It goes on the freeway, it changed
lanes a bunch of times, and then exited the freeway
and then finally said okay, time for you to take over.
But imagine that you just drive to Vegas where you
just say.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Like, I'm going to Vegas and it goes on I'm
taking over, and then suddenly you're like it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I love those things. And it reminded me of how
far we've come from the first time I ever got
into a self driving car was in Japan at c
Tech and I got into a little Nissan and all
this thing did was do one tiny loop. I'm talking
maybe a five hundred foot loop inside a place, and
all I can think of is, oh, my gosh, what
if this car just accelerates right into the.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Brick wall in front of me and I'm dead? And
it didn't. But again, these are you scared? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I was apprehensive. I was like, I don't know what
this car is going to do. And it was the
car that we drove I was less apprehensive. They had
a fail switch, like a big it's actually a big
red button that's like boom, you press that.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's like an emergency stop switch. They had that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
They had this little dashboard light which was red and green.
If it's red, it's like, get the get out of
take the wheel because robot has gone back. Yeah, the
robot has has rebelled and go.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It was fun, It was really cool. Okay, this next
question comes from Jesse. I just read an article about
juice hacking. What devices do you recommend to avoid juice
avoid hacking danger?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
What is juice hacking?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh gosh, so I'm curious. I think it's juice jacking. Actually,
juice hacking. Juice jacking. So juice jacking is when, yeah,
juice hacking.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, well she's she saw an article. It's it's really
juice jacking. It's hacking, whatever you want to call it,
but juice jacking. So juice jacking is when you plug
your phone into you know, you're at the airport and
there's this nice little USB charger right there on the
side of your chair, and you plug your phone in
and next thing you know, all the data and pictures
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and everything on your phone is just sucked out. And
now it's in the hands of criminals and cyber criminals,
and they've got everything at the air and they've got
all the pictures of Megan taking shots in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh wait I have that? Yeah, oh wait, that was
on my Instagram stories. So yeah, does this really happen.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Probably yes, somewhere in the world someone's phone has been
juice jacked. The reality is at an airport, though, probably.
Oh wow, is it gonna happen to you? I would
say your chances of juice jacking happening to you are
ninety nine point nine percent.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Not gonna happen now. That does leave point one percent.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And if you're going to a country like China or
a country uh in you know, like near Russia, I
would be more concerned. And I'm not singling those countries out,
but there. You know, there are opportunities for this to
happen now at lax and you know whatever. It's also
the phones are made these days, especially if you keep
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your software up to date, the phones are made to
avoid these sorts of things. Have you ever plugged an
iPhone into a new computer and it says, yeah, trust
this device. Have you seen that message? Yeah, that is
because of juice jacking. Because what it's saying is back
in the day when you plug your iPhone in boom,
it was just go whoop and it would just start sinking
and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, Well after someone got juice jacked and hacked. Now,
Apple said, oh, you know what, we should probably have
a little prompt that says, hey, we just noticed that
you plugged your computer and this computer is asking for
some data. You have to press something on your screen,
and if you have a passcode on your phone, you
have to type in your passcode to approve that computer.
So number one, that's probably gonna protect you if this
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happens on Android, they have very similar things as well.
But you know, do you need to be concerned about this?
Probably not for the average person. Should you be aware
of it, absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, think about where
you're plugging your phone in. If you're here at CS
and you see some random little thing that's like plug your.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Phone in here, yeah, data in here.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But like if you're just like in the media room
at CS and like, you know, you plug your phone. Now,
some people might argue that the media room at CS
would be the most ripe for hacking because think about
all the international journalists in there and the information.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So you do have to be on guard. But I
think it just it's common sense prevails.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But if you have a passcode, be smart.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But also a lot of these little attacks require you
to put in that pass code, do all this stuff.
Then they have to download little tiny piece of software
to your phone. Then your phone is communicating, so a
lot of little steps. It's not like you imagine that
they do it on TV shows where you plug your
phone in and it's charging, and while it's charging, it's
like five four that big status bar off like we're
getting all.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Of Megan's data in three two fun with that.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's really not that great data.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So I again, be aware of this, and it's good
to even know what this is all about, but just
be aware. It's kind of like the skimmers at the
gas station. It's not because we know that people skim
credit cards that you don't fill up on gas. It's
just you kind of are aware if you see some
weird wires hang out of the gas pump and when
you're putting your credit card in and you're like, oh,
go away, maybe I shouldn't use that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So what if you really need gas, then just do.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It and let your credit card company deal with it.
Use your credit card at the pump for now. Don't
use your credit card. We talked about that in the
last podcast, didn't we All right, so let's see what
else do we want to talk about the let's see,
we got this Coldgate toothbrush.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
We talk about this. This is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Colgate has a new toothbrush called the Plaquelists, and it's
very simple. It's a it's a smart toothbrush. Smart everything
smart nowadays everything is smart. Toothbrushes are smart everything every
ya when I say everything, Yes, I've been to the
adult toy section.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's all smart.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's kind of crazy like that was actually one of
the craziest things of going to the show is having
these people demo products for you that they're just like
throwing out terms that like you don't normally hear on
a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh, this this stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, they're just like explaining how things work, and you're
just like, ah, you're hearing stuff that like you don't
normally hear and from like an average person on the
street that's like talking to you and like holding this
thing in their hand and demoing this targets.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This, this, this TAP's that this does. That is but
boat boom boom, and.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
You're like they're like so comfortable talking about it, and you're.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Like I was like okay, And it's really funny because
I'll be honest, there's a lot of people at these
booths and there's a lot of normal people. I mean
normal people, just like regular like you know, Bob the
businessman from South Dakota.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
It's like, I didn't realize that last year there was
some invention and that that had won an award at
CES and then they and then CS took the award away.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, yeah, they weren't ready for it. Last year they weren't.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
CS was not as an organization, was not ready for
the revolution. Yeah, and now they are, and now it's
this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it's been kind of totally normal.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It wasn't like like I predicted, it might take over
the show, take over the headlines. It definitely did grab
a lot of headlines and it still continues to. I
noticed the top three trending search with CS was CS
sextech on Google. So it's not like people ignored it.
It's just the mainstream media is not necessarily going to
show what I saw on the Today Show, which just
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not gonna happen, or you're not going to see it
in tech smart. But it's out there and you will
see it on blogs and you will see people covering
it and mainstream blogs covering it as well. It's not
just you know these other things anyway.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So back to Coldgate.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So Coldgate placklist pro wait, start talking about electric toothbrush,
and it's really interesting it The bottom line with this toothbrush,
it has indicator lights on it and it also has
sensors on the toothbrush that looked for plaque on your teeth,
and when you pull the toothbrush out of your mouth,
if there's still plaqu present on your teeth, the lights
are like, hey, you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Still need to keep going. Oh, and so it uses it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Let's see the users using a light ring around the toothbrush.
The user sees a blue light when build up has
been found, the white light appears to let you know
you can move on. So you brush the quadrants of
your mouth and you kind of pull this thing out
and you're like, oh, cool, that quadrant's clean because the
light is white.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I like that, right, that would really make me brush
my teeth.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I think, wouldn't it be really like evil and sinister
by Colgate if they were just like, ah, let's just
make people brush their teeth a lot more than they
have to, and they just like like some engineer like
revs up.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That's long. Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Anyway, So that's that's another product that I thought was
pretty cool. I mean, like I said, everything is getting connected.
It kind of gets a little tiring to see, like, oh,
your pillow is now smart and it's telling you how
you sleep. But the reality is there are a lot
of people in this world, and there's a lot of
people that if you have a very normal or I
shouldn't say normal, typical, If you have a very typical
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health profile, you wake up, you go to sleep, everything's okay,
you can eat whatever you want whatever, like, good for you.
But there are billions of people in this world and
a lot of people have issues. They may not be
apparent to you when you see this person on the street,
but they may have trouble sleeping, or they may have
trouble eating cheese, or they may have trouble snoring, or
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they may have trouble in the bedroom, whatever it is.
And again, there is something for everyone. And it's like
when you see this technology and you see these people
working on this stuff good because there's a lot of people,
there's always a market for it. So while you may
say this smart toothbrush is really stupid, like personally, like
I get cavities really easily, and it's super frustrating because
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I brush my teeth like crazy. I'm very you know,
hygienic with teeth and all this stuff, and like you
ask your dentists, he's like, eh, just a genetics you
were handed, And it's like, well, that's frustrating. Yeah, but
now if this toothbrush can keep me from getting a cavity, amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Well compared to the we saw another toothbrush or they're
calling it a y brush. Yeah, and it can brush
your teeth in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I mean I did want to try it out.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, Like, I'm curious, does that brush your teeth well?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So that one looks like well, I'm sure they did
the research and figured it out. I mean, but that's
again another dream to me. So if I can put
this toothbrush, which kind of looks like a whitening tray
with bristles, so it looks like a whitening tray with bristles,
you put it on your bottom teeth, you press a button,
it vibrates for five seconds. You flip it over, you
put it on your top teeth, vibrates for five seconds.
They say it's gonna give you a full clean.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
I guess that makes sense because you're supposed to brush
like each tooth.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
For five seconds.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Oh interesting, Okay, So I mean I did not get
to try that one. I actually had an appointment, but
it was something got mixed up. I did want to
try that, and I'll probably get them to send me
one if I can, because I I'd love to, and
the brush that I'm using, I don't want to. I
feel bad, but someone yeah, sorry, yeah, no whatever, it's fine.
But someone, a dentist emailed me on DM and said,
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don't use that. So I actually there's another one called
Burst that they recommended, so I'm gonna maybe try that
one now. But I used to use Sonic Care, which
I really liked. But again, all these things are getting connected,
they're all getting better. And when when you pass these
things off, when you see the things like we did
a story with this smart diaper sensor that tells you
when your baby's diaper's wet, and you're like, oh, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You're just a lazy parent.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like before you have these quick knee jerk reactions to
new technology. Yeah, just imagine there are a lot of people, right,
Maybe not everyone is able to check their baby's diaper
or whatever every five minutes. Maybe there's people that work
from home, yeah whatever it is. And also or maybe
your baby has a really sensitive bottom and it can't
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go five minutes, you know, with that wet diaper, and
or they get it a rash, or they have a
rash and you want to know immediately when they wet.
So again, there's a lot of different circumstances surrounding this technology.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
But what I think is also cool is the idea
that like, okay for that, you know with the baby diaper.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Thing, in ten years, like that's going to be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And it'll be built into every diper.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It'll be like inexpensive.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And so like when people like I was watching the
hit this morning on Katla and watching the anchors reaction
to the story, and like they were like, oh, you
know this is they were just kind of saying, like
this is ridiculous. But I mean in ten years when
I if I have kids, like this is gonna be normal,
and like.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They're gonna have it at CDs probably, and that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Every diaper will have it built in.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It'll help, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And that's that's the point again. And everything starts out expensive.
Yeah you see the price? What would I see today?
This digital sign that is for like restaurants, it's like
this giant like you know how signs have like a
big billboard inside which like tells you like a special
or something, you know, like they're advertising something.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, this one's digital, so they can change it. It
looks really cool.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
They can roll it around whatever, and it's ten thousand
bucks today. In the future, it's gonna be three hundred bucks,
and every mom and pop, you know, restaurant can have
it and have these really cool signs that get your attention.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
They have like steaming soup on it, and you're.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Like, oh, I want that soup because it's like a
picture of someone's slurping soup and you know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So it's just it's just.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
This is what I love about shows like this is
that you get a glimpse of the future. Yes, am
I buying all this stuff today?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, of course I am.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I would love to, but I'm not getting it all today.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But I love seeing It's like it opens up these
little pathways in your brain, going.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Oh that's interesting. Okay, I can rely see why people
like that stuff. All right, I'll do one more question
from you, one more gadget, and then we're gonna have
an interview. One more question with our host here.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, this next question is from Bob.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
How do these big companies like rise In sell these
expensive iPhones and charge high monthly fees and give the
most incredibly terrible service The people are great. However, the
resolution to the problem can take hours, you know. Basically,
he goes on to say that he was on.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Hold for three hours the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
After talking with someone. After one and a half hours,
what happened? Okay, so you get the point.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So he's frustrated.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, he's frustrated because he's paying a monthly fee. Did
he mention a company specifically, yeah, okay, So, which that's
actually kind of funny because I feel like Verizon has
such good customer service, Like every time I've ever called them,
like I've had Verizon and AT and T, and I
feel like the difference is pretty is pretty intense. Like Verizon,
I feel like my problems are solved with the first
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person they stay on the line with you.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So I mean, but again, there'd be like.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
A little like thing next to your name that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Says like, no, are you kidding? They have no idea, No, oh,
this is oh my gosh. Rich is one of a
billion journalists in the world that covered TECHNOLOGYE me, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Now nobody when I call any company, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
They don't know who I am from anyone else. But
I will say, I just feel like Verizon's really good.
But I understand his frustration in general. And what he's
trying to say is we pay good money to these
companies and you feel like sometimes they just take it
for granted. And I'll give you an example, Simply Safe,
which I have. They it took I called them one
time for help, and it was like I was on
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hold for it, said.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Hold will be a half an hour, half an hour.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I pay you guys twenty five bucks a month, what
And so I'm sitting there And so I actually did
not get this problem solved with them for six months
because I just didn't feel like waiting on hold for
half an hour. And so finally once I did, the
guy was super friendly.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
That was on, you know, that came on.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Solve my problem in about three minutes, and so I
was very happy. And I'm like, and it's kind of
like it resets the clock. It resets like my little
anger clock, you know. I'm like, Okay, well I'm good
with Simply Safe again. But the thing is these companies
just it's like sometimes it does depend on the person
you get. Sometimes it just kind of goes with the company.
They're just kind of weird. And that's the day.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He did say the people are great.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh okay, so it's just companies.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
So he's just angry about the companies, angry about the
amount of time.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I'm I don't have a solution. Get human.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You can check out a lot of these companies are
doing the thing where they call you back when they
have a customer service person available.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You can try that, but otherwise you just got to
roll with it all. Right. Final gadget we'll talk about
is the Halo Touch.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
This is from Quickset, and this is a smart lock
for your house that uses your fingerprint, and I see
the pro and con. The pro is that's probably more
secure than using a digit, you know, like the four
digit code or six digit code, because you can't really
recreate a fingerprint. The downside is you have to have
everyone that comes to your house that wants to open
the door scan their fingerprint. So imagine telling your housekeeper
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that they need you need to scan their fingerprint on
your front door so that they can come in.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They'd be like no, or you think that's weird to ask?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Really I would not want to be like, oh, Grandma, Nana,
can you scan your fingerprint?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
But like we had that at my sorority.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Also fingerprint scanner, yeah to get in real nice.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, oh interesting, that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Wow, okay, well that was a corporate that that was
probably a commercial solution. But this is for your house now,
which is again we always see these things come through
the commercial sector, first business to business and now it's
trickled down two hundred and fifty bucks. They'll be available
in twenty twenty, in a couple months. I think Halo
Touch Wi Fi smart lock, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah,
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you can register up to fifty different people or one
hundred fingerprints.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think that's funny.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you have fifty people.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I have a bunch of people on mine though, Like
I have an electronic door lock, and I have a
bunch of people on mind.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Can you put them in certain like time?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Absolutely, Yet in a like one in the morning, No, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
No, you have I definitely don't have the house person
that comes to clean uh coming in at They do.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Not have access.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
It's not that she or he would want to, but
you never know.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
What if someone goes rogue on you and then they're like, oh,
I have the key code to you know, Rich's house.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Ye, So yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Coming up next, we are going to talk to our
lovely hosts here in the minivan. We've got Chris Heiser,
Renouvo CEO, to tell us what this minivan is all about.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You were listening to rich one.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
All right, we got Renovo CEO Chris Heiser joining us
in the minivan. Chris, thanks so much for letting us
use the minivan.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Hey, thank you rich for having us. This is the
coolest minivan in all all of ces. It's down here
on the floor in the north hall and excited to
be here with you.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Tell me about Renovo and this minivan. What do you
guys do.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
So, Renovo's a software company, and what we do is
we help automotive companies develop the core software inside of
the cars that you're sitting in now. And cars are
basically big computers.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Where people see vehicles, we see computing, sensors, data, and
so everything that goes into this vehicle requires hundreds or
thousands of software developers all over the world working in
tandem to produce something like this. And what Raalvo does
is we help them evaluate the data that comes from
these vehicles so they can learn faster, they can build
better software.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
What type of data is the typical vehicle today collecting
on the driver and the vehicle.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yeah, So what's amazing is vehicles you can buy today
might have as many as a dozen cameras, They have
radar sensors, they have light our sensors, and they have
hundreds of embedded sensors detecting temperature, pressure, or anything that
you can think of.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
So this is one of the.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Most sensitive and powerful sensing devices in the world. And
so this thing is continuously recording data and it can
use it to operate itself. But more importantly, you can
use that data to improve how it works. You can
see how people interact with it, you can see how
it interacts with the world, and if you can get
that data to the developers, you can improve the software
(44:20):
in real time and ultimately build better, safer, and.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
More fun vehicles. Well, tell me about this car. What's
going on in this minivan?
Speaker 5 (44:27):
So the Chrysler PACIFICA that we're in today, we use
as a way to communicate with people about how much
data is actually created. And so you look at something
like this, which has the hundreds of sensors that it is
mentioned that's generating usually around four to five terabytes of
data for every hour that it runs on the road. Wow,
it's a massive amount of data. And when you multiply
that across a fleet of vehicles, say Teslas six hundred
(44:50):
thousand vehicles, it's generating hundreds of petabytes of data every
single day. So the challenge is how do you find
the interesting pieces of data within that massive haystack. How
do you pick that data out and get it to
people that need it most, and how do you do
that basically in real time?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Now, does that mean my car has a hard drive
that's some of this data is being stored off? You've
got it.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I mean I think look at your car like a
laptop or a PC. Now, it's exactly the same type
of computing devices that are in these vehicles. They have
high performance computers that are connected to the sensors in
real time, and they're jetterating and storing a lot of data.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yet when my wife's check engine light comes on, she
still has to go to the dealership and figure out
why that's coming on.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Well, I think what you're going to see over the
next few years is those check engine lights now are
going to be really communication with servers in real time,
and in many cases those things can be diagnosed and
even fixed out in the field with ever having to
take the car to a dealership for service. And I
think we've gotten used to that being how our laptops
or our mobile phones work. Automotive is sort of the
(45:50):
last great frontier and making software work the way that
we wanted to. There's challenges in the automotive world. It's
got to be safety critical, right, this is a life
and death situation. But these are these are things that
can be achieved with technology, and that's the area that
Renoul's working in.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
So whenever I talk about technology and cars, and especially
futuristic cars, we always imagine about software crashes. We're not
talking about physical crashes, but people wonder if the software crashes,
does my car stop working?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Is that the case?
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah, So one of the biggest challenges you have when
designing these is to deal with these unexpected circumstances and
make sure that if there is an error, it doesn't
lead to something that is safety critical. So Renault's actually
here partnering with BlackBerry Acunics. They do a real time
operating system that has a lot of safety features built
in at the ground level. And a great example of
(46:39):
this is that you can have an application that's running,
but then you have another application that's watching the first one,
and when the first application begins to slow down or
have some sort of an issue, that second application can
slow the car down, or can swap it out, or
can take some other type of measure to make sure
that that error doesn't lead to something that could harm someone.
And that in the entire auto motor space, and particularly
(47:01):
in level four automation fully autonomous vehicles, this is what
everyone's working on trying to build, you know, absolutely foolproof,
absolutely rock solid software systems and hardware systems that can't fail.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Now, when we talk about data and especially the car,
what about privacy? Because all this data that's being collected,
it tells you how fast I drive, It tells you
if I take corners at a high rate of speed,
if I'm an aggressive driver. A lot of people would
like to have access to that information. The insurance companies, cities, states, government, whatever,
(47:37):
how concerned we need to be about privacy when it
comes to our cars.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I think it's a really important discussion to have, and
it's something that we need as an industry to take
head on. Renovo operates on a global basis. We have
customers in Europe. They are very very strong privacy laws
GDPR in Europe that cover what you can and cannot
do with data and what type of consent you need
to get from the people that generate that data. Those
laws aren't quite strong in the United States, although in
(48:02):
California CCPA came into effect in January of this year.
You're seeing this discussion come to the fore and it's
important to have because the data can lead to incredibly
positive outcomes for cities, for people safety, and I think
there's also a question of does that turn into something
that becomes a surveillance system that we'd all be uncomfortable with.
(48:25):
We have to have this discussion, and it's going to
be technologists, car companies, cities, regulators. We all need to
get together and make sure we can build something that
generates positive outcome but also protect privacy.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
All right, give me a little glimpse into the future
of automotive. I mean, we know that cars are eventually
going to drive themselves. How far are we from that?
And just give me what your idea of the future
of cars is.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
Sure, so automation is definitely on the rise, you'll start
to see it in low speed, relatively sedate conditions in
good weather. Leaders like Way already starting to do fully
autonomous rides down in Arizona, and you'll see more and
more people doing this. But I think the bigger story
is that this vehicle that you're sitting in, in other cars,
(49:11):
they're going to become more connected to our digital lifestyles.
They're going to be more flexible, they're going to become
much more easy to update, and ultimately they're going to
allow us to focus more on our lives and take
more and more of the driving and the drudgery of
commuting away from us. And that's going to be great.
We're going to get back time, We're going to get
back a lot of choice and personalization. So that's fun.
(49:31):
But there's a lot of things we need to do
between twenty twenty in that future. But in the next
five to ten years, the automotive industry as we know
it will be completely remade.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Chris Heiser, Ronovo CEO, thanks so much for lending us
this car today.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
We appreciate it. Thanks for your vision of the future
and do good stuff with our data. Please, Rich Thanks.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well, now we know what this minivan is all about.
My personal favorite part is the discolight.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, it's a party in here.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
It's a party.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
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ce S twenty twenty.
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That's gonna do it for us from here at CES
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Speaker 1 (51:22):
Thanks so much for listening. We'll talk to you real soon.
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Speaker 2 (51:27):
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No initiating rich on Tech. What's going on? Rich Demiro here?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Rich on Tech coming to you from the CS convention
show floor. This is the podcast where we talk about
the tech stuff I think you should know about and
we answer your tech questions.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Producer Megan is with me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We let me just paint the scene for you. Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are in the back of a minivan, a Chrysler
pacifica totally souped up like this is the best minivan
I've ever been in, literally on the CES show floor
here in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States, Earth Eric Galaxy one.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm just bringing it out in case you listen in
different worlds, you know, But I'm telling you CES twenty
twenty here in Las Vegas is quite the show. We
have been here since Sunday CS. Let me just let
me just explain what CS is all about. If you
have never been, Uh, it is the wildest ride you
can imagine for technology because what they do is they
(01:08):
just have literally one hundred and seventy thousand people from
around the world, plus companies from around the world that
all come here to kind of show off the latest
and greatest. And when I say, a lot of people,
a lot of stuff. Megan, this is your.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Second time, Yeah, my second time.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
How does it differ from your first time?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I think the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
First time, I had just started this job, but it
was just like a complete like a shock, like to
the system.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But we also went to see US Asia this year,
and I remember in see us Asia, I felt like
like I kind of understood how to walk around the
floor and like I had a better understanding. And this time,
I think it's just like every time you start to
get it right right.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, Like when I first went to CS, it'd be
like Vegas. Oh my gosh, party, party, party, work, work, work,
no sleep, no sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And I realized by the end of the time, I'm
just kidding.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You're no, you're for someone your age. You're very You're
you've been very tame. Believe me, because ten years ago
at CS for me way wild. I mean it was
just insane. I mean I remember going out like nine
o'clock at night to parties and just you know, getting
up at two am for my stuff on KTLA. And
I don't really do that anymore because I probably can't.
(02:18):
I can't do you know, yeah, my body can't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm a grandma, so I can't even do that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Megan producer, Grandma Meghan.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So we saw so many things this week. I saw
so many things. My camera roll is just overflowed with stuff.
I saw everything from the latest automated cars. I took
us a drive and a self driving car from Qualcom.
We saw so many robots, We saw little gadgets, we
saw big gadgets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I saw adult gadgets.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was the first year that they had this at
the show floor, and that was very interesting because it's
all just kind of mixed in to the stuff here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
What else I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I just walked around this morning for about three hours
over at what's called this This is like another convention center.
It's CS is so big that it can't fit under
one roof and it takes over the entire town. And
I walked over there and they had an entire area
of like all the international companies and all these little
tiny startups from France and Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And I got ramen out of a ramen vending machine,
which was so amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And here's what I will tell you, and I probably
talk about this on this podcast a lot, but I
love being media at events like this, and the reason
why I love being media at events like this and
someone's opening the door to our minivan here, yeah, is
that they they love to take care of you. And
I walked right up to the vending machine. I was like,
you know, they're not really doing samples. I'm like, would
(03:39):
you mind making a sample? And sure, they made me
hot ramen in forty five seconds, which, by the way,
I wolfed down.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It was so delicious.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I went up to this coke vending machine where
they have this new thing called Coke Energy, and I'm like, hey,
you know, mind if I get a you know, this
huge line, and then you know, if you go up
to a booth, they're always maybe locked the door. Actually,
you go up to a booth and you know they
want to accommodate you.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Immediately give you a demo and.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They roll out the red carpet for you because they
know that you can amplify the message of what they're
trying to show. And I love my favorite thing about
cs just finding little, cool, awesome things. And so I'm
going to go through a whole bunch of gadgets that
I saw, you know, and look, if you want me
to talk about what you know Samsung did or what
(04:24):
Sony did. You're probably not going to hear too much
about that at this podcast because I more want to
find the little things. You're gonna of course hear those
in the headlines. But I found a lot of little
things I thought were really cool. And yeah, I'll have
some big companies as well, but I think the number
one thing, I'll just start with the pizza robot, because
this has gone viral on my Twitter.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yah, and this was actually Megan's find.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But we went to this company called Picnic and they
make a robot that makes pizzas really fast, and it
got a lot of play on Twitter because one of
the presidential candidates retweeted my tweet about it, and when
that happened, people it just went crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It exploded.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, and so this little.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Robot was really tough to get because it's making pizzas
for the people at the convention center. And everyone was
debating on Twitter, like I said, it had AI and
people are like, oh, there's no AI. That's just an
assembly robot. It's just a basic automation robot. But that's
not true. What we showed was it making pizza. But
what it can do is. It can make tacos, it
can assemble salads, It can assemble anything that has ingredients
(05:29):
and some sort of whatever you put them on a
bun or sandwich, tacos, subway. Imagine a subway sandwich artist
being displaced by this machine. And then people get on
me because they say, Rich, are you trying to take
away everyone's jobs. I'm not creating robot, I'm not promoting it.
(05:52):
This is my job to cover this. Would you rather
not know that this is coming down the line? If
there was an automated check producer, would you rather be
blindsided by the fact that I'm, like, Megan, I'm replacing
you with a robot.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
No, I mean, like I compared it to you know,
manufacturing cars, you know, back fifty years ago or whenever
they switched from humans to robots, Like of course people
were upset, and now it's just the way it is.
And cars are made by robots. Food, I mean, made
by robots sounds kind of crazy, but at the same time,
it's like it's safer, it's not you know, there's a
(06:25):
lot of good to it as.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, and there's also like, i mean, it's little things
like if you're running a business. And let's say that
you have humans doing this. Out of every five pizzas
or I don't know what the number is, the human
probably makes a mistake that's big enough to ruin that pizza.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Or when they put.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The cheese on, they're putting on ten percent more than
they should, or they're putting on olives and five olives
every hour fall off.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Onto the floor. Yeah, well, the robot.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And this is where these business minds come in. They say, look,
we're going to cut costs by ten percent and boom,
Now you've just increased productivity. Now I get it, that
person that was previously making that pizza is now displaced,
but there are people that need to program these devices,
and the people that were making the pizzas are now
in a different position at that workplace. And yes, sometimes maybe,
(07:14):
if you want to look at it, maybe it's a
zero you know, I don't think it's a zero sum game.
I think that there's always something else happening somewhere else where.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
People always find a way.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And look, if humans are going to put humans out
of business when it comes to jobs, we're all going
to have to figure that out. And with some of
these things, they just it just happens at the ground
up and we just have to all deal with it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Check out the pizza robot video and oh sorry, wrong one.
There we go, and we're still going to do some
of your questions as well.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So actually this is a follow up email from this
guy named Alan. He had emailed you about when you
were on Leo's show and you mentioned the ESM called
aaro Loow. Well he went on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
To actually try it, so he said that it look
it's too good to be true. And then basically you had.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Told him that you were going to try it, and
then he said he was going to try it, and
then the update is it looks as if it works
very well. I tried out the five dollars one gigabyte
seven days and later have got gone up to the
twenty eight dollars ten gigabytes thirty days and it works
very nicely.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So what is this eSIM called Arrolow?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I don't okay, so air a l o aer arrol Errolow.
And so I saw this website.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was a brand new website and eSIMs, if you're
not familiar with the concept, A lot of the new smartphones,
especially the iPhones, and some of the other devices out there,
like the Pixel.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They have what's called.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
An eSIM, which means have you ever seen that little
card that's inside your phone, the simcard. Well, now they're
doing away with that, and that little number on that
card is actually built into your phone sort of, and
so you can have what's a virtual SIM card, so
you could activate your phone on Verizon without popping a
SIM card in because Verizon just says, hey, give us
those numbers on your phone and we'll just connect it
(09:04):
all and make it work, which makes things really convenient.
Now for international travel, it gets really interesting because what
this Aerolo site does is lets you buy an eSIM
before you even leave the country, and they have him
available for all these different countries, over one hundred countries.
You go online and let's say I'm going to France
and I can buy seven days of data one gig
(09:26):
for three bucks, or I can buy thirty days five
gigs of data for nine dollars, and I can have
this activated on my phone before I even leave. And
so what was his name again, Alan? Alan called me
on the Leo Show. I told him about this, he said,
and then he emailed me. He said, Rich that's too
good to be true. That doesn't work, there's no way.
And I said, well, you try it and I'll try
it and we'll see because we're both discovering this. Yeah,
(09:47):
and sure enough he emailed me back and he said
it works great, and so I will be using this
on my next international trip. Yeah, it's just a nice
thing to know about ai rlo dot com. I was
wondering about China because that's actually the second country and
it does have China com prepaid five days five gigs
of data. Thirty days is sixteen bucks. Now I burned
(10:07):
through five gigs of data in maybe five minutes. Yeah,
probably a couple of days, so that you know, I'd
probably need a couple of those. But if you look
at what Verizon does and at and T, I usually
recommend their travel pass or what they call passport that's
using your normal number and it's ten dollars a day
in the countries that you go to, and they only
give you about a half a gig a day, but
(10:27):
unlimited calling. So anyway, this is way better. So check
it out Arlo dot com. If you're traveling on a
trip internationally and you have a newer phone that will
let you use an e sim and it's pretty cool.
All right, Let's talk about another product that we saw
here at the show, The LG Veggie Fridge I call it,
and this is LG Electronics.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
They it's specifically called a indoor gardening appliance.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I think it's called the Vegetable Cultivator. But this was
another one that kind of went viral.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Because it just looks so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's a column fridge that you install in your kitchen
and it grows little, tiny leafy plants in the fridge.
And yes, it's basil, it's tiny, you know, maybe bib
lettuce or butter lettuce or whatever. But obviously your mind
goes to what is the other leafy thing that people
grow at home?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Was kidding? Marijuana?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You can't see so, and we're in California, where you know,
depending on I mean, I think you have. I'm not
an expert on this by anyway, but I'm pretty sure
that like there's something where you can have like three
little plants or something.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Now I'm not an expert, so if.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can't do, not say that rich, But the reality is,
I imagine that people would probably try this, and that's
kind of why it went viral because because we said
it was a refriger that lets you grow your own herbs,
and I guess herb is probably.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Slang for you know, marijuana. So no matter what, this
fridge is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
There are some caveats to it, so it controls the air,
the humidity or I should say the temperature, the humidity,
and the water. And it's not just like you can
plant anything in there, although I'm sure people will try,
but it's much more high tech than that. They come
in little pods that LG cells, and so I think
you put these pods in there, Yeah, like a little
seed pod. I doubt I doubt they're gonna have a
(12:21):
weed pod anytime.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Going to you never know, So that's really fun.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
But I just thought thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And again, you know something's really expensive when they can't
tell you how much it costs. We did not get
a price on the veggie fridge, but I imagine it's
for rich people because it's one of those fridges that
kind of looks like one of those what's that big brand,
like the Viking or the you know the really.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Nice I think.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Viking, Yeah, like the really nice fridge sub zero, you
know those kind of Really the fridge is that when
your fridge blends in with your cabinets.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, you are rich.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's like it's well, you know what I'm saying, Like
it looks like it just your cabinet is the same
exact facade as the fridge.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It's literally literally customed.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yes, you're doing okay goals. Yeah, that's that's the LG
Veggi fridge.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But this does have a clear glass fridge in front
or a glass window in front of it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
All right, Megan, you're up.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So this next question is from Maria. She's asking about
sharing large videos on an Android. I was wondering if
you could help me. My daughter's on a drill team.
I take a lot of videos of her. And many
of the moms have iPhones and can air drop videos
to each other, but I have an Android. Do you
have any tips on the best way to share large
(13:35):
videos to other Android users and iPhone users also from
an iPhone to an Android.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh of course.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, So the main thing with uh this has been
a problem because Android and if your iPhone to iPhone,
it's all good. Yeah, because you have air drop, you
have iCloud. People will send you an I Cloud link.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You can literally you have I Message, you can share
a big video through message, whatever you want. It's iPhone
to iPhone has never been a problem. It's just the
simplest thing, which is why iPhone users are very hesitant
when it comes to sharing with Android users because it
never looks good the video. If you send it by text,
it's gonna look like garbage. And you're like, well, how
else would I send it? Like, I don't know how
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what do I do? And the Android people are like, well,
can you use like Google Photos or face Facebook Messenger?
And of course the iPhone person doesn't want to download
anything new, and so it's this whole big thing. And
I see this all the time with my family and friends.
So here's what I'm recommend.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I would say probably the easiest is Dropbox. So just
get just get a Dropbox account, get a free one.
I'm not sure what the Dropbox gives you for free
these days.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It used to be like to like a gig or something.
I don't even know how much it is.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Dropbox they don't even I mean, it's like Dropbox business
is like so they're not even targeting like regular people anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But it seems like you could probably get a dropbox.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm guessing you can get a personal d drop box
at this point. Maybe you can't anyway, so dropbox will
probably be the easiest. If you can still get a dropbox,
Google Drive she mentioned that will work. The problem is
it's really like people don't want to sit there and
get a link and then download the video from the
link because it's kind of a pain.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Right, isn't that drop Box too?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They're both, Yeah, it's just Dropbox a little bit easier
because it's more like a you understand the concept.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a folder that you drop something into.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You go into that folder and you pull it out, right,
so it's Google Drive. It gets a little crazier because
you're like, what is this? Is this a drive? My
soniim those are my first two choices. Then I would
say Google Photos is really good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So if you have.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Google Photos on your phone, which if you're Android you
probably do, just click the little share and it says
share link. You can just share a link and they'll
be able to download that photo as well or that
video file. You can do a shared album, which this
was really cool. I went to a birthday party. I
probably mentioned this on the podcast, but my friend she
made a shared photo album of the birthday party and
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she sent the link to us, and literally I was
able to drag and drop my pictures onto that album
and everyone else of that link could see them.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that's really easy. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Then the other thing, and this is my new favorite,
and you've been using this, Megan as well. Telegram is
my new absolute favorite chat tool. And it's so great
because it's kind of like I Message but on steroids,
because it's got every feature imaginable, including you can share
large files and you can even share large files with yourself.
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So if you send a video to yourself, you can
download the app on your computer and then download that.
They have a thing called saved Messages where you can
basically just use unlimited cloud storage. So I check out Telegram,
get all your friends on. It's actually pretty easy to
get people to sign up. I got you to sign up.
I got a bunch of my friends to sign up.
I got my wife to sign up, and we're all
kind of loving it.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I like it, right, yeah, I mean it's pretty easy,
and I do like that you can see when your
message has been read, but I know on I Message,
it's like a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Like oh yeah, like you have your read receipts on.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But like it helps especially for work, yeah, to know
like if I send a message, I know it's been
read and like you don't have to respond, but I know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
He's sadly And that's that was actually one of the
things with us with with I Message.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Either you don't have a turn on or I don't.
I forget, I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
If I have read, receive, I have read receipts.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Most people turn it off because they don't like that privacy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, they want their privacy. So that's the problem.
But with Telegram, it's on. You see a little check mark, yeah,
and it okay, so there's one check mark which means
it's been delivered and I think too when it's been read.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And then the other thing, I mean, there's so I
don't want to go through all the features of telegram,
but it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's it's a lot like BBM.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's a lot like BBM. And the other thing is
you can share. You can have it on multiple devices,
so you don't you're not just limited to like iPhone Android.
You can put on your desktop everywhere. Yeah, I have,
I have it on everywhere. You can drag and drop things,
you can what's the other things you can do that.
You can find people by username, So mine is rich
on Tech if you want to text me there now
I just gave it out, so good luck with that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So does that mean you'll like lose like if you
get a bunch of messages? Yeah, well you're like ktl
like tech like message.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh that's I think disappear.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You can pin it to the top, so I have
I have, like my wife pinned to the top, so
I see her messages way at the top. I have
our little KTLA tech pin to the top, so it's
always right at the top.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Good okay, So then you can get all your other and.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Then the other.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I've had a bunch of people text me through it
from CS and it's fine. I mean, it's like it's
very personal because it is like a text, but it's
also I know it's they don't know my number, so
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. But anyway, so those are the things I would
recommend and check them out. All right.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Another product I saw which I you know, I know,
there's a lot of Arlow fans out there. Arlow is
this wireless security camera company and people love them because
the security cams are wireless, they last for anywhere between
four and six months, and they're super easy to install
because you just stick them up and you forget about them. Well,
Arlow has now come out with a wireless floodlight cam,
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the r Low Plo Pro three Floodlight Camera, and this
is uh it's a camera combined with an ultra bright
floodlight and it's one hundred percent wire free. It it's
super bright because they shine it in my eyes at
the event, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You just put it up and now you.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Have a flood light, which is good for security, and
you also have a camera and you're also illuminated at night.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So a lot of these floodcam are these.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
A lot of these cameras at night use IR which
doesn't look very good, and it's been black and white.
But this is full color even at night, which is
really cool. So I don't know, it's it's kind of cool.
I don't have the price on it, but I don't
know if they told me the price on it, I
can't remember. But anyway, I know there's a lot of
rlow fans out there, and this will expand your reach.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So awesome. Cool. It's getting hotter and hotter, right I know.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I was like, the van must have gone off. We
killed the battery.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
We killed the battery because the van is off and.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
We are sweating.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, all right, question producer.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Mean this next question comes from Joe. I watch you
on Fox eight News in Cleveland at twelve PM, and
I enjoy your segment very much. I'm in the market
for a smart watch with ECG capabilities. I have a
a fib and I want to keep track of it.
I understand that Apple is and the leader is the
leader in this area. However, I'm not ready to give
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up my Android phone yet. Is there another brand out
there for Android right now?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, we're recording this in January twenty twenty. If you
talk to me in one year, it's gonna be a
whole different story. There's probably gonna be fifteen of these
things I could recommend right now. Apple Watch, EKG ECG
whatever they call it is kind of like the gold standard.
It's there right now. It monitors your heart. It monitors
what's going on with your heart. You can take an
ECG whenever you want. It'll tell you when your heart
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rate is elevated, when it's too low, when you fall.
Apple Watch is and I've talked about this before. It's
actually become more useful to me in various ways than
the iPhone. The iPhone is still an amazing device, but
like a lot of people now can't give up their
iPhone because they have the Apple Watch and they fell
in love with it. Yeah, and there's really no other
wearable like that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Google bought Fitbit.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You can be believe that they are going to add
these features into the future fitbits for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They have to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
The other one that will have it is the Galaxy
Watch Active. I think it's called. But the Galaxy Watch
they announced this last year at their event they said
we're gonna we built in the tools to do an
EKG on this watch, but they did not activate them.
So that's what we're waiting for. And it's the.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Galaxy Watch Active too, I guess it's called.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And they we have an event with Samsung on February eleventh.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I believe hopefully we'll get an update.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Maybe they'll introduce this on stage and say, hey, it's active,
but you're talking it's been a while. I mean I
think it was like back in the summer that we
had the event where they unveil this, and anyone who
bought that that wanted that feature.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Has been waiting now six months. It's too long.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So that is the watch that I would recommend, and
hopefully they will have that very soon. They need it,
because I'm not like I used the EKG feature a lot.
But if you, like you said, he has a fib
he needs that and you know you want to be
able to have that. All right, let's see and you
can pick the next one. Which one do you want
me to talk about. I'll give you some choices. You've
(22:04):
got the fingerprint door opener, you've got the self driving car.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You want to do the self driving car?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, So we both took a ride in the self
driving car from Qualcomm, and Qualcomm does not make cars,
but they make the technology that lets cars self drive,
and kind of like Renouvo. Well, it sounds like Renovo
is doing more of the car we're in, is the
Renovo car. Sounds like they're doing more of the data
(22:30):
that helps all this stuff along.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
True, and these are just companies, Honestly, I know nothing
about well, neither.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Did I until you know, until we'll call Calm. I
knew about but Renovo I had not until we shot
our podcast in here. But it's you know again, the
data that these cars have is just crazy. And so
the Qualcom we get in and we you know, we
do these things blind. We like get in, We're like,
we'd have no idea what this car sign a waiver
and next thing you know, we're on the freeway at
seventy miles an hour in a car that's driving itself.
(22:59):
And what was was that the first time you were
in a self driving car? Yeah, because it's been I've
been in a couple oh like that. Yes, I've been
on the freeway on a car. Yes, but this was
the most autonomous car I've ever been in.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
So yeah, I felt like it reminded Well, first of all,
I was like filming it, filming in the back, so
I was looking through a screen filming it the entire time.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But I kind of to like k not it too
freaked out about it.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I just told myself kind of like, oh, it's like
a ride at Disneyland, like don't worry, and like it's
really safe.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
But I was kind of freaked out.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I was like after, I was like whoa, Like that
car was actually going like seventy miles per hour on
the freeway and you know, like, yeah, it was crazy
and anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean the concern to me exactly is Okay, you've
seen you've been in a car where someone jerks the
wheel to the left or right and like.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They're like, oh, I had to avoid something Like imagine
a computer doing that and like next thing, you know,
you're flipping or you're rolling. I mean that's really scary.
And I think to me, it's like and we did
it and it was fine. It was only a couple
of minutes. It was you know, ten fifteen minutes, and
you know, this thing is accelerating, it's changing lanes. It
wasn't passing cars like it wasn't like going in front
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of a car that was like slow.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It wasn't aggressive that right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's not a New Yorker, Yeah, but it's a New Yorker,
I should say Jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't know whatever. I mean, I grew up on
these space Yeah, but it was really interesting. I think
they did a good job.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And what Qualcomm is saying is they're selling this platform
to automakers so that automakers, you know, can integrate this
into their cars. And the idea being is that pretty
much every car is going to have some level of
autonomy in the next three or five years. I mean,
Qualcom was targeting three years for this technology to make
it into a car on the road, So we're ways off,
(24:45):
but again, that's pretty big autonomy that this car got.
As soon as we got onto the on ramp, it
was like, okay, the car was like, I'm taking over,
and the guys like takeover.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was like a it's like a back and forth.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I'm taking over.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, And so the car takes over and it's merges
onto the freeway. It goes on the freeway, it changed
lanes a bunch of times, and then exited the freeway
and then finally said okay, time for you to take over.
But imagine that you just drive to Vegas where you
just say.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Like, I'm going to Vegas and it goes on I'm
taking over, and then suddenly you're like it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I love those things. And it reminded me of how
far we've come from the first time I ever got
into a self driving car was in Japan at c
Tech and I got into a little Nissan and all
this thing did was do one tiny loop. I'm talking
maybe a five hundred foot loop inside a place, and
all I can think of is, oh, my gosh, what
if this car just accelerates right into the.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Brick wall in front of me and I'm dead? And
it didn't. But again, these are you scared? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I was apprehensive. I was like, I don't know what
this car is going to do. And it was the
car that we drove I was less apprehensive. They had
a fail switch, like a big it's actually a big
red button that's like boom, you press that.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's like an emergency stop switch. They had that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
They had this little dashboard light which was red and green.
If it's red, it's like, get the get out of
take the wheel because robot has gone back. Yeah, the
robot has has rebelled and go.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It was fun, It was really cool. Okay, this next
question comes from Jesse. I just read an article about
juice hacking. What devices do you recommend to avoid juice
avoid hacking danger?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
What is juice hacking?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh gosh, so I'm curious. I think it's juice jacking. Actually,
juice hacking. Juice jacking. So juice jacking is when, yeah,
juice hacking.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, well she's she saw an article. It's it's really
juice jacking. It's hacking, whatever you want to call it,
but juice jacking. So juice jacking is when you plug
your phone into you know, you're at the airport and
there's this nice little USB charger right there on the
side of your chair, and you plug your phone in
and next thing you know, all the data and pictures
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and everything on your phone is just sucked out. And
now it's in the hands of criminals and cyber criminals,
and they've got everything at the air and they've got
all the pictures of Megan taking shots in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh wait I have that? Yeah, oh wait, that was
on my Instagram stories. So yeah, does this really happen.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Probably yes, somewhere in the world someone's phone has been
juice jacked. The reality is at an airport, though, probably.
Oh wow, is it gonna happen to you? I would
say your chances of juice jacking happening to you are
ninety nine point nine percent.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Not gonna happen now. That does leave point one percent.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And if you're going to a country like China or
a country uh in you know, like near Russia, I
would be more concerned. And I'm not singling those countries out,
but there. You know, there are opportunities for this to
happen now at lax and you know whatever. It's also
the phones are made these days, especially if you keep
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your software up to date, the phones are made to
avoid these sorts of things. Have you ever plugged an
iPhone into a new computer and it says, yeah, trust
this device. Have you seen that message? Yeah, that is
because of juice jacking. Because what it's saying is back
in the day when you plug your iPhone in boom,
it was just go whoop and it would just start sinking
and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, Well after someone got juice jacked and hacked. Now,
Apple said, oh, you know what, we should probably have
a little prompt that says, hey, we just noticed that
you plugged your computer and this computer is asking for
some data. You have to press something on your screen,
and if you have a passcode on your phone, you
have to type in your passcode to approve that computer.
So number one, that's probably gonna protect you if this
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happens on Android, they have very similar things as well.
But you know, do you need to be concerned about this?
Probably not for the average person. Should you be aware
of it, absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, think about where
you're plugging your phone in. If you're here at CS
and you see some random little thing that's like plug your.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Phone in here, yeah, data in here.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But like if you're just like in the media room
at CS and like, you know, you plug your phone. Now,
some people might argue that the media room at CS
would be the most ripe for hacking because think about
all the international journalists in there and the information.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So you do have to be on guard. But I
think it just it's common sense prevails.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But if you have a passcode, be smart.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But also a lot of these little attacks require you
to put in that pass code, do all this stuff.
Then they have to download little tiny piece of software
to your phone. Then your phone is communicating, so a
lot of little steps. It's not like you imagine that
they do it on TV shows where you plug your
phone in and it's charging, and while it's charging, it's
like five four that big status bar off like we're
getting all.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Of Megan's data in three two fun with that.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's really not that great data.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So I again, be aware of this, and it's good
to even know what this is all about, but just
be aware. It's kind of like the skimmers at the
gas station. It's not because we know that people skim
credit cards that you don't fill up on gas. It's
just you kind of are aware if you see some
weird wires hang out of the gas pump and when
you're putting your credit card in and you're like, oh,
go away, maybe I shouldn't use that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So what if you really need gas, then just do.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It and let your credit card company deal with it.
Use your credit card at the pump for now. Don't
use your credit card. We talked about that in the
last podcast, didn't we All right, so let's see what
else do we want to talk about the let's see,
we got this Coldgate toothbrush.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
We talk about this. This is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Colgate has a new toothbrush called the Plaquelists, and it's
very simple. It's a it's a smart toothbrush. Smart everything
smart nowadays everything is smart. Toothbrushes are smart everything every
ya when I say everything, Yes, I've been to the
adult toy section.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's all smart.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's kind of crazy like that was actually one of
the craziest things of going to the show is having
these people demo products for you that they're just like
throwing out terms that like you don't normally hear on
a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh, this this stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, they're just like explaining how things work, and you're
just like, ah, you're hearing stuff that like you don't
normally hear and from like an average person on the
street that's like talking to you and like holding this
thing in their hand and demoing this targets.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This, this, this TAP's that this does. That is but
boat boom boom, and.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
You're like they're like so comfortable talking about it, and you're.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Like I was like okay, And it's really funny because
I'll be honest, there's a lot of people at these
booths and there's a lot of normal people. I mean
normal people, just like regular like you know, Bob the
businessman from South Dakota.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
It's like, I didn't realize that last year there was
some invention and that that had won an award at
CES and then they and then CS took the award away.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, yeah, they weren't ready for it. Last year they weren't.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
CS was not as an organization, was not ready for
the revolution. Yeah, and now they are, and now it's
this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it's been kind of totally normal.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It wasn't like like I predicted, it might take over
the show, take over the headlines. It definitely did grab
a lot of headlines and it still continues to. I
noticed the top three trending search with CS was CS
sextech on Google. So it's not like people ignored it.
It's just the mainstream media is not necessarily going to
show what I saw on the Today Show, which just
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not gonna happen, or you're not going to see it
in tech smart. But it's out there and you will
see it on blogs and you will see people covering
it and mainstream blogs covering it as well. It's not
just you know these other things anyway.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So back to Coldgate.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So Coldgate placklist pro wait, start talking about electric toothbrush,
and it's really interesting it The bottom line with this toothbrush,
it has indicator lights on it and it also has
sensors on the toothbrush that looked for plaque on your teeth,
and when you pull the toothbrush out of your mouth,
if there's still plaqu present on your teeth, the lights
are like, hey, you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Still need to keep going. Oh, and so it uses it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Let's see the users using a light ring around the toothbrush.
The user sees a blue light when build up has
been found, the white light appears to let you know
you can move on. So you brush the quadrants of
your mouth and you kind of pull this thing out
and you're like, oh, cool, that quadrant's clean because the
light is white.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I like that, right, that would really make me brush
my teeth.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I think, wouldn't it be really like evil and sinister
by Colgate if they were just like, ah, let's just
make people brush their teeth a lot more than they
have to, and they just like like some engineer like
revs up.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That's long. Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Anyway, So that's that's another product that I thought was
pretty cool. I mean, like I said, everything is getting connected.
It kind of gets a little tiring to see, like, oh,
your pillow is now smart and it's telling you how
you sleep. But the reality is there are a lot
of people in this world, and there's a lot of
people that if you have a very normal or I
shouldn't say normal, typical, If you have a very typical
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health profile, you wake up, you go to sleep, everything's okay,
you can eat whatever you want whatever, like, good for you.
But there are billions of people in this world and
a lot of people have issues. They may not be
apparent to you when you see this person on the street,
but they may have trouble sleeping, or they may have
trouble eating cheese, or they may have trouble snoring, or
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they may have trouble in the bedroom, whatever it is.
And again, there is something for everyone. And it's like
when you see this technology and you see these people
working on this stuff good because there's a lot of people,
there's always a market for it. So while you may
say this smart toothbrush is really stupid, like personally, like
I get cavities really easily, and it's super frustrating because
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I brush my teeth like crazy. I'm very you know,
hygienic with teeth and all this stuff, and like you
ask your dentists, he's like, eh, just a genetics you
were handed, And it's like, well, that's frustrating. Yeah, but
now if this toothbrush can keep me from getting a cavity, amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Well compared to the we saw another toothbrush or they're
calling it a y brush. Yeah, and it can brush
your teeth in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I mean I did want to try it out.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, Like, I'm curious, does that brush your teeth well?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So that one looks like well, I'm sure they did
the research and figured it out. I mean, but that's
again another dream to me. So if I can put
this toothbrush, which kind of looks like a whitening tray
with bristles, so it looks like a whitening tray with bristles,
you put it on your bottom teeth, you press a button,
it vibrates for five seconds. You flip it over, you
put it on your top teeth, vibrates for five seconds.
They say it's gonna give you a full clean.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
I guess that makes sense because you're supposed to brush
like each tooth.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
For five seconds.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Oh interesting, Okay, So I mean I did not get
to try that one. I actually had an appointment, but
it was something got mixed up. I did want to
try that, and I'll probably get them to send me
one if I can, because I I'd love to, and
the brush that I'm using, I don't want to. I
feel bad, but someone yeah, sorry, yeah, no whatever, it's fine.
But someone, a dentist emailed me on DM and said,
(35:46):
don't use that. So I actually there's another one called
Burst that they recommended, so I'm gonna maybe try that
one now. But I used to use Sonic Care, which
I really liked. But again, all these things are getting connected,
they're all getting better. And when when you pass these
things off, when you see the things like we did
a story with this smart diaper sensor that tells you
when your baby's diaper's wet, and you're like, oh, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You're just a lazy parent.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like before you have these quick knee jerk reactions to
new technology. Yeah, just imagine there are a lot of people, right,
Maybe not everyone is able to check their baby's diaper
or whatever every five minutes. Maybe there's people that work
from home, yeah whatever it is. And also or maybe
your baby has a really sensitive bottom and it can't
(36:30):
go five minutes, you know, with that wet diaper, and
or they get it a rash, or they have a
rash and you want to know immediately when they wet.
So again, there's a lot of different circumstances surrounding this technology.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
But what I think is also cool is the idea
that like, okay for that, you know with the baby diaper.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Thing, in ten years, like that's going to be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And it'll be built into every diper.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It'll be like inexpensive.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And so like when people like I was watching the
hit this morning on Katla and watching the anchors reaction
to the story, and like they were like, oh, you
know this is they were just kind of saying, like
this is ridiculous. But I mean in ten years when
I if I have kids, like this is gonna be normal,
and like.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They're gonna have it at CDs probably, and that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Every diaper will have it built in.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
It'll help, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And that's that's the point again. And everything starts out expensive.
Yeah you see the price? What would I see today?
This digital sign that is for like restaurants, it's like
this giant like you know how signs have like a
big billboard inside which like tells you like a special
or something, you know, like they're advertising something.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, this one's digital, so they can change it. It
looks really cool.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
They can roll it around whatever, and it's ten thousand
bucks today. In the future, it's gonna be three hundred bucks,
and every mom and pop, you know, restaurant can have
it and have these really cool signs that get your attention.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
They have like steaming soup on it, and you're.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Like, oh, I want that soup because it's like a
picture of someone's slurping soup and you know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So it's just it's just.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
This is what I love about shows like this is
that you get a glimpse of the future. Yes, am
I buying all this stuff today?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, of course I am.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I would love to, but I'm not getting it all today.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But I love seeing It's like it opens up these
little pathways in your brain, going.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Oh that's interesting. Okay, I can rely see why people
like that stuff. All right, I'll do one more question
from you, one more gadget, and then we're gonna have
an interview. One more question with our host here.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, this next question is from Bob.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
How do these big companies like rise In sell these
expensive iPhones and charge high monthly fees and give the
most incredibly terrible service The people are great. However, the
resolution to the problem can take hours, you know. Basically,
he goes on to say that he was on.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Hold for three hours the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
After talking with someone. After one and a half hours,
what happened? Okay, so you get the point.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So he's frustrated.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, he's frustrated because he's paying a monthly fee. Did
he mention a company specifically, yeah, okay, So, which that's
actually kind of funny because I feel like Verizon has
such good customer service, Like every time I've ever called them,
like I've had Verizon and AT and T, and I
feel like the difference is pretty is pretty intense. Like Verizon,
I feel like my problems are solved with the first
(39:09):
person they stay on the line with you.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So I mean, but again, there'd be like.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
A little like thing next to your name that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Says like, no, are you kidding? They have no idea, No, oh,
this is oh my gosh. Rich is one of a
billion journalists in the world that covered TECHNOLOGYE me, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Now nobody when I call any company, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
They don't know who I am from anyone else. But
I will say, I just feel like Verizon's really good.
But I understand his frustration in general. And what he's
trying to say is we pay good money to these
companies and you feel like sometimes they just take it
for granted. And I'll give you an example, Simply Safe,
which I have. They it took I called them one
time for help, and it was like I was on
(39:49):
hold for it, said.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Hold will be a half an hour, half an hour.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I pay you guys twenty five bucks a month, what
And so I'm sitting there And so I actually did
not get this problem solved with them for six months
because I just didn't feel like waiting on hold for
half an hour. And so finally once I did, the
guy was super friendly.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
That was on, you know, that came on.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Solve my problem in about three minutes, and so I
was very happy. And I'm like, and it's kind of
like it resets the clock. It resets like my little
anger clock, you know. I'm like, Okay, well I'm good
with Simply Safe again. But the thing is these companies
just it's like sometimes it does depend on the person
you get. Sometimes it just kind of goes with the company.
They're just kind of weird. And that's the day.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He did say the people are great.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh okay, so it's just companies.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
So he's just angry about the companies, angry about the
amount of time.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I'm I don't have a solution. Get human.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You can check out a lot of these companies are
doing the thing where they call you back when they
have a customer service person available.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You can try that, but otherwise you just got to
roll with it all. Right. Final gadget we'll talk about
is the Halo Touch.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
This is from Quickset, and this is a smart lock
for your house that uses your fingerprint, and I see
the pro and con. The pro is that's probably more
secure than using a digit, you know, like the four
digit code or six digit code, because you can't really
recreate a fingerprint. The downside is you have to have
everyone that comes to your house that wants to open
the door scan their fingerprint. So imagine telling your housekeeper
(41:14):
that they need you need to scan their fingerprint on
your front door so that they can come in.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They'd be like no, or you think that's weird to ask?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Really I would not want to be like, oh, Grandma, Nana,
can you scan your fingerprint?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
But like we had that at my sorority.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Also fingerprint scanner, yeah to get in real nice.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, oh interesting, that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Wow, okay, well that was a corporate that that was
probably a commercial solution. But this is for your house now,
which is again we always see these things come through
the commercial sector, first business to business and now it's
trickled down two hundred and fifty bucks. They'll be available
in twenty twenty, in a couple months. I think Halo
Touch Wi Fi smart lock, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah,
(41:58):
you can register up to fifty different people or one
hundred fingerprints.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think that's funny.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you have fifty people.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I have a bunch of people on mine though, Like
I have an electronic door lock, and I have a
bunch of people on mind.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Can you put them in certain like time?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Absolutely, Yet in a like one in the morning, No, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
No, you have I definitely don't have the house person
that comes to clean uh coming in at They do.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Not have access.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
It's not that she or he would want to, but
you never know.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
What if someone goes rogue on you and then they're like, oh,
I have the key code to you know, Rich's house.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Ye, So yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Coming up next, we are going to talk to our
lovely hosts here in the minivan. We've got Chris Heiser,
Renouvo CEO, to tell us what this minivan is all about.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You were listening to rich one.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
All right, we got Renovo CEO Chris Heiser joining us
in the minivan. Chris, thanks so much for letting us
use the minivan.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Hey, thank you rich for having us. This is the
coolest minivan in all all of ces. It's down here
on the floor in the north hall and excited to
be here with you.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Tell me about Renovo and this minivan. What do you
guys do.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
So, Renovo's a software company, and what we do is
we help automotive companies develop the core software inside of
the cars that you're sitting in now. And cars are
basically big computers.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Where people see vehicles, we see computing, sensors, data, and
so everything that goes into this vehicle requires hundreds or
thousands of software developers all over the world working in
tandem to produce something like this. And what Raalvo does
is we help them evaluate the data that comes from
these vehicles so they can learn faster, they can build
better software.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
What type of data is the typical vehicle today collecting
on the driver and the vehicle.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yeah, So what's amazing is vehicles you can buy today
might have as many as a dozen cameras, They have
radar sensors, they have light our sensors, and they have
hundreds of embedded sensors detecting temperature, pressure, or anything that
you can think of.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
So this is one of the.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Most sensitive and powerful sensing devices in the world. And
so this thing is continuously recording data and it can
use it to operate itself. But more importantly, you can
use that data to improve how it works. You can
see how people interact with it, you can see how
it interacts with the world, and if you can get
that data to the developers, you can improve the software
(44:20):
in real time and ultimately build better, safer, and.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
More fun vehicles. Well, tell me about this car. What's
going on in this minivan?
Speaker 5 (44:27):
So the Chrysler PACIFICA that we're in today, we use
as a way to communicate with people about how much
data is actually created. And so you look at something
like this, which has the hundreds of sensors that it is
mentioned that's generating usually around four to five terabytes of
data for every hour that it runs on the road. Wow,
it's a massive amount of data. And when you multiply
that across a fleet of vehicles, say Teslas six hundred
(44:50):
thousand vehicles, it's generating hundreds of petabytes of data every
single day. So the challenge is how do you find
the interesting pieces of data within that massive haystack. How
do you pick that data out and get it to
people that need it most, and how do you do
that basically in real time?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Now, does that mean my car has a hard drive
that's some of this data is being stored off? You've
got it.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I mean I think look at your car like a
laptop or a PC. Now, it's exactly the same type
of computing devices that are in these vehicles. They have
high performance computers that are connected to the sensors in
real time, and they're jetterating and storing a lot of data.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yet when my wife's check engine light comes on, she
still has to go to the dealership and figure out
why that's coming on.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Well, I think what you're going to see over the
next few years is those check engine lights now are
going to be really communication with servers in real time,
and in many cases those things can be diagnosed and
even fixed out in the field with ever having to
take the car to a dealership for service. And I
think we've gotten used to that being how our laptops
or our mobile phones work. Automotive is sort of the
(45:50):
last great frontier and making software work the way that
we wanted to. There's challenges in the automotive world. It's
got to be safety critical, right, this is a life
and death situation. But these are these are things that
can be achieved with technology, and that's the area that
Renoul's working in.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
So whenever I talk about technology and cars, and especially
futuristic cars, we always imagine about software crashes. We're not
talking about physical crashes, but people wonder if the software crashes,
does my car stop working?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Is that the case?
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah, So one of the biggest challenges you have when
designing these is to deal with these unexpected circumstances and
make sure that if there is an error, it doesn't
lead to something that is safety critical. So Renault's actually
here partnering with BlackBerry Acunics. They do a real time
operating system that has a lot of safety features built
in at the ground level. And a great example of
(46:39):
this is that you can have an application that's running,
but then you have another application that's watching the first one,
and when the first application begins to slow down or
have some sort of an issue, that second application can
slow the car down, or can swap it out, or
can take some other type of measure to make sure
that that error doesn't lead to something that could harm someone.
And that in the entire auto motor space, and particularly
(47:01):
in level four automation fully autonomous vehicles, this is what
everyone's working on trying to build, you know, absolutely foolproof,
absolutely rock solid software systems and hardware systems that can't fail.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Now, when we talk about data and especially the car,
what about privacy? Because all this data that's being collected,
it tells you how fast I drive, It tells you
if I take corners at a high rate of speed,
if I'm an aggressive driver. A lot of people would
like to have access to that information. The insurance companies, cities, states, government, whatever,
(47:37):
how concerned we need to be about privacy when it
comes to our cars.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I think it's a really important discussion to have, and
it's something that we need as an industry to take
head on. Renovo operates on a global basis. We have
customers in Europe. They are very very strong privacy laws
GDPR in Europe that cover what you can and cannot
do with data and what type of consent you need
to get from the people that generate that data. Those
laws aren't quite strong in the United States, although in
(48:02):
California CCPA came into effect in January of this year.
You're seeing this discussion come to the fore and it's
important to have because the data can lead to incredibly
positive outcomes for cities, for people safety, and I think
there's also a question of does that turn into something
that becomes a surveillance system that we'd all be uncomfortable with.
(48:25):
We have to have this discussion, and it's going to
be technologists, car companies, cities, regulators. We all need to
get together and make sure we can build something that
generates positive outcome but also protect privacy.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
All right, give me a little glimpse into the future
of automotive. I mean, we know that cars are eventually
going to drive themselves. How far are we from that?
And just give me what your idea of the future
of cars is.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
Sure, so automation is definitely on the rise, you'll start
to see it in low speed, relatively sedate conditions in
good weather. Leaders like Way already starting to do fully
autonomous rides down in Arizona, and you'll see more and
more people doing this. But I think the bigger story
is that this vehicle that you're sitting in, in other cars,
(49:11):
they're going to become more connected to our digital lifestyles.
They're going to be more flexible, they're going to become
much more easy to update, and ultimately they're going to
allow us to focus more on our lives and take
more and more of the driving and the drudgery of
commuting away from us. And that's going to be great.
We're going to get back time, We're going to get
back a lot of choice and personalization. So that's fun.
(49:31):
But there's a lot of things we need to do
between twenty twenty in that future. But in the next
five to ten years, the automotive industry as we know
it will be completely remade.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Chris Heiser, Ronovo CEO, thanks so much for lending us
this car today.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
We appreciate it. Thanks for your vision of the future
and do good stuff with our data. Please, Rich Thanks.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well, now we know what this minivan is all about.
My personal favorite part is the discolight.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, it's a party in here.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
It's a party.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
You're Vegas, baby, So it's been a blast here at
ce S twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
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Speaker 2 (50:09):
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That's gonna do it for us from here at CES
twenty twenty in Las Vegas.
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