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Speaker 1 (00:17):
So I found this article where they talked to a stripper. Yeah,
and why she became a stripper, and they asked her
a bunch of questions. It's really fascinating. And they asked
how she got started, and she says that she was
a waitress at a restaurant, saw an ad in the
paper for a cocktail waitress at a strip club. Went
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in for the interview and the manager said she was
too pretty to be a waitress and that she should dance,
and I told him to go fuck himself. Okay. Then
I figured I couldn't judge it if I didn't try it,
so I gave it a go. It's super fun. I'm
outgoing and I don't have anybody image issues. It's been great.
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Asked what her stripper name was and how she chose it,
she said Vanessa. Okay, good stripper name. She says it's
easy to say pretty pretty customers thinks it's sexy and
I like v names okay. Asked can you change your
name randomly? She said some clubs, yes, some clubs no.
My club puts you in a computer because you have
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so many girls. We have over seven thousand on the roster.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So you can never change it, so you'd be you
better like what you pick. Some small clubs you can change.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It, right, Yeah, you don't want to be like I'm
looking for cinnamon well cinnamon one or cinnamon two.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Cinnamon toast crunch, she said. The interview question is it
disadvantageous to change it due to repeat client tell or
do they not care what you decide to call yourself?
She says it is. I always choose a name that
is believable and easy to pronounce over a loud music
cuts down on the what's your real name bullshit, and
as your customers get to know you, they basically fall
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quote in love with your character. It can also screw
you up if they come to the bouncers or DJ
asking for you and you're using another name than usual.
That makes sense, consistency of the lie, right. What is
your song? Your go to song? I like rock music,
so usually counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of
the war drums, which is a perfect circle song for
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those who don't know. Okay, so you know she's gonna
be up there for at least ten minutes. Not what
I expected? No, she said that. No, how much do
you charge lap dance twenty dollars, three for one hundred dollars,
Mini VIP two hundred and fifty dollars for half hour,
five hundred dollars for a full hour. What are you
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doing in that VIP area? Yeah, and she says, because
the guy's like three for sixty. She says, it's in
a different area. Different room is three for one hundred
because it's semi private, so.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Makes sense, free lap dances and mild conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Says, the question is what's the shampooon champagne shampoon champagne room?
Really like, she says, boring, mostly conversation. Other times I
have witnessed over her more than just a dance. California
strip clubs have gone downhill, literally low key brothels. In Nevada,
it's strictly dancing. Extras do occur, but not as rampant
as they do in California clubs. Okay, no idea. I
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had no clue. What's the largest tip you ever received?
I once did a ten hour VIP which I ended
up getting ten thousand, five hundred and thirty two dollars
for wow. It was from one guy back in six
but that total came from the price per hour, I
would say, just tip, maybe fifteen hundred dollars on top
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of the asked price. Okay, so you had to pay
the price, and then also she got a tip.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What happens in a ten hour VIP? Great follow up question, Yes,
she says, in my case nothing. The dance I offer
is in VIP is literally exactly the same as on
the floor. It's just for an extended period of time,
and I'll usually try to get you very drunk. This
guy was a businessman who didn't speak much English and
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was loaded. We danced, We talked as much as we could.
I had a bouncer bring us a deck of cards.
He was nice. I had fun. Good guy. We played Monopoly.
What did you buy with your ten g's? She said?
A car? I bought a little Hyundai. I don't need
anything fancy. Okay. What's the most money you've seen rain?
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Another great question? Yeah, she said, over two thousand dollars.
The most I've ever had rain on me personally was
five hundred. You want to see some crazy shit throw
two g's in ones on a stage. Girls will dive
for that shit like seagulls. I doubt it. It's a
funny line, right, that is picture it. How much do
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you tip out to the DJ, bartenders, et cetera after
a shift? What percent of the money you make it
a night do you actually take home? My current club?
The price this follows house fee fifty dollars weekday nights,
sixty dollars weekend night. So that's what they pay to
the club, no matter what. Let them dance there. Yeah,
DJ gets ten percent of gross okay, ten dollars minimum,
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house bomb gets seven dollars minimum. Funny money cash out
ten percent, So that means they have to pay the
fifty dollars plus ten percent right to the house. Wow,
So you're losing money just walking in there.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You got to pay the DJ, You gotta pay you know,
the club just to dance there plus ten percent.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Right, So if you make no money, like you don't
make anything, you still have to pay sixty seven dollars
to dance. Wow. We don't tip bartenders or anything, but
any waitress or bartender who sends me to a customer,
I give them ten percent of what I got at
that table, whether it's one dance or one hour. Okay,
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that makes sense. Yeah, what is a house mom? Because
I didn't know what that was. In a strip club,
usually a late thirties to fifties lady who they stay
in the dressing room. They provide supplies, food, tampons, aspirin, perfume,
sort of like your own little mini Walgreens. They also
hold your keys and assess if you're too drunk to
drive home. Okay, it's basically a manager a mom. Yeah,
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like a mother, right, being motherly. How much do you
make per year? So it's hard to say. I would
estimate anywhere between fifty to seventy thousand dollars. That's working
two to three days a week, five to six hour shifts.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That ain't bad, I guess in three days a week
ain't bad.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
No, Uh, do you guys? Do guys ever stand a
chance hooking up with strippers at night? This is a
great question. This is the whole reason we're even going
to I'm even bringing this up because this is so fascinating.
She said. There are four types of strippers. Party girls.
They don't give a fuck if they make money. They
just want to get fucked up. These girls high probability.
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They're both very young or very stupid, or both. If
you've got the cocaine. They're coming home with you. Number
two the means to an ind girl, this is myself.
Maybe they're in school or saving for business, et cetera.
These girls are business women, and there's usually a less
than a five percent chance.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, yeah, because they're in it for the money.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah. Three the girls who this is their chosen permanent career.
They tend to be a little older and are generally
pretty smart, but not mixing business in real life. Again,
not much of a chance to go home with them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
They just happen to get stuck into this life and
made a career out of.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It, right, Yeah, have their boundaries and that's that, right.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Right, probably started off as a party girl, kind of realized,
hey there's good money here, I'm gonna go ahead and
continue doing this.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Or didn't and just got into it as I just
want to make money. And then right, you know, the
breaking the idea that trippers are insane and partiers and
they only want to get high. Yeah. And then the
last one here the girls who do it because they
feel they have no other choice, usually bad self esteem,
financial hardships, drug problems, high probability of getting with one
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of these. All these types where this person dances one
and four of the most common types, so the partier
and the girl with the low self esteem. As for
tips to get with them by a dance, don't say
you know how the game works, and don't have to pay,
and you don't have to pay for dances by the
girl drink and a dance, and it goes a lot further.
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Don't be creepy. That's all I can say about that,
as I have never encountered a customer I felt compelled
to go home with. Do you ever get an emotional
attachment to your customers? No, because it isn't me who
likes them. It's my character and they don't really know me.
I'm not myself at work. I'm a different person. Yeah,
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you got to switch it on. Yeah, like you got
to become some else. That makes sense. Have you ran
across sketchy customers? Oh? Yeah, without sounding like a racist
ship bag, it's always Indian from India, guys. I once
had a guy pay me to pee in a beer
bottle for five hundred dollars. I had the DJ do it.
The guy drank it, ioled at him because he drank
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the DJ's p No shocker. This customer was Indian. What
the fuck you drank DJ piss? How funny is that?
I guess, I mean it doesn't. You don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Piss is piss is piss, and it's not like a
female's piss tastes, you know, sweeter or more floral than
a man's piss.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know me. I don't know me either.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Girlfriend of mine used to bartend at oh Cloud nine
or I don't know if it was that one or
night trips. But when she bartended there, she had a
guy that would come in there all the time and
ask the girls and her the shoot. He would offer
them five hundred bucks to go pee in a glass
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so he could drink it. Then she never did it,
but there were girls who would do it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Why not, why said, I don't understand. Why not?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I said, why not?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's five hundred bucks, it's your piss. Who cares? Yeah,
I'll piss in a jar for you for five hundred bucks.
I don't care. But that's weird, man. People want to
drink a ship? What the fuck? Hey, if any listener
wants to give me one hundred dollars to piss in
a cup, I will gladly do it for you. No
skin off my back. I guess maybe the only reason
would be, like, it's a gateway thing. What do you
mean said, well, for pissing a cup in a cup? Yeah,
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well they're like five hundred dollars and they're like, hey, well
you give me your underwear for five hundred dollars. And
then it's like, well now you're on the hook right
right right? Yeah? Ship that money so easy? Yeah, five
hundred dollars you just peel on my face. Yeah, jeopardizing
your morales is a slippery slope. Uh. How about Arabs
and Asians? Do you have bad experiences with them? Because
she was talking about Indians dot not feather right. Yeah,
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Asians are hitting miss. I'm nearly five tens, so sometimes
I'm a little too tall for them, even though I'm thin.
But the ones that I do get, especially Japanese, always
very sweet and respectful. Arabs I have no problem with.
I just had five guys from Dubai here last week
and are super generous and nice. Anyone ever get touchy?
When I give a dance, I outline the rules immediately,
even before I accept payment. I always say, okay, you
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could touch my sides, my legs and my butt if
you're gentle, No boobs are downstairs, all right, I get
them to agree and get the money up front. You
get one strike. The first time someone breaks the rules,
I say quote. I know it's exciting, but remember you
can't do that second time. I walk out, no questions,
I take your money and I leave. Wow, you got
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your warning. Yeah, I gave you the rules and I
gave you a warning. Yeah, why not just walk away?
It makes sense. I've never been in a strip club
where you can touch no, no at all.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
That's always been the rule, right, you know, it's as
far as I know, you know, no time the dancers
at all, whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The only time that I've seen is when they engage,
so like the stripper like grabs your hands and puts
them somewhere and it's okay. Then yeah, but even then,
like they'll say no wandering, or the bouncer will come
over and go no wandering, right, keep your hand on
the as Yeah. Do you find it hard to tell
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the men to back off when they start to come
on too strong with the situation change if they had
a large amount of money? Her answer, Nope, This is
a business. You have to know your boundaries and stick
to them. I do not give a shit if they
like me or not, or are much money they have. My
rule is I make the rules. I have totally squished
a guy's cheeks and yelled no in his face. I
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have hit someone with a shoe. I've slapped someone. I
have stopped and looked in their eyes and said, deadpan, Now,
what made you think that was okay? What's your logic here?
I've always had the upper hand. You have to and no,
money isn't worth it to me. Dignity is priceless. Girls
who break boundaries for money disgust me. I'm sure there's
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a lot of them that do, though. Yeah it's a
money's a drug man.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Is it okay for a guy to get a lap
dance if he's wearing thin sweatpants and no underwear, because
there are people that do that. They go to the
strip club with barely anything on, right, or like a
pair of like slacks no underwear on. Yes, this person,
I was just said a figure.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
If you're rubbing your giner on somebody, that would be
the best to rub your jiner on, as opposed to
like very abrasive like denim or corduroy or something.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh, like you're doing them a favor, right right? Yeah, okay, okay,
I'm trying to help you, absoluolutely not. I will not
do the dance. I suspected that. If I suspect this,
and if I figure it out during, I stop the dance.
No refunds. It's not sanitary, m you say, like questionable, No,
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it's it's interesting. Have you ever made a I ejaculate
in his pants just by giving him a lap dance?
Her response is I have had a guy do that
against my will, which resulted in a firm slap to
the face.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm She says that it's not sanitary because of a
guy not wearing underwear and thin pants.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Because the bodily fluid would seep through the pants. Yeah,
but you could rub your face right right right if
she does that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And also, I mean, like, who's to say that it's
any more sanitary than the pants that you're wearing right now?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Exactly? Yeah, yeah, you don't know if I've got underwear
on underneath the ye this bitch, the.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Pants are coming in right, she said, I had a
guide a sudden face.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Are you saying that you don't rub your butt on dudes?
Erect junk. That's the question from the interviewer. This is
not generally a part of my dance unless it is
in VIP, and even then it's limited. What are the
weirdest customers that you've had? Ballbuster guys, the vomit fetish guy,
the one who wants physical abuse mainly are weird. But
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nothing is weird to me anymore. He's just vombit on me.
Oh god, no fuck or puish my balls the fuck man.
Do girls ever talk about their clients afterwards or make
fun of them? Oh yeah, of course. Stress room talk
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is gold. Oh yeah, imagine that any work. What is
the craziest thing you've seen happen at a club. I've
seen a dad come in, wrap his jacket around his
daughter and carry her out. Yeah, no, daughter of mine's
gonna work here. I've seen two girls sixty nine on
a pole at Casta Diablo in Portland, which is a
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filthy town. I could never do it. I didn't know
if I was impressed or horrified. I've seen a double
ended dildo show at Centerfolds in San Francisco. I thought
it was bullshit, but I saw it in real life
and bolted. I've seen a girl kick a customer in
the face and sad to say, I've seen a guy
attempt to rape a dancer.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Wow, that raping of dancers doesn't surprise me any Oh guys, Yeah,
they just I think they're inferior. They can't they can't
control themselves. The sixty nine ing on a pole I'm
interested in. They were both on the pole. One's like
this way, one's facing east, the others facing west. And
are they spinning around while they're sixty nine in each talent?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Right? I would I would like to see that. I
know the Strip club, it's pretty famous and it's known
for being crazy, pretty raunch. Yeah. Yes, so I don't
know how the double thing worked in sixty nine. I
don't know about all that. But Centerfolds in San Francisco,
of course, be careful, this is their answer, Be careful.
That place is a shithole. Girls charge up to two
hundred dollars for one dance because you can do whatever
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you want to them for those three minutes. Managers won't
do shit about it if you complain either, it's a
total racket. Do whatever you want. So if you want to,
you know, slap them around, you can do that. Check
their oil. You can do that, I don't know. Wow,
you can do the question, follow up question, you can whatever,
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as in whatever you want, but three minutes is kind
of short. Hence why this is a racket. It's a
great place for dirty girls. You can really make bank
in there if you're a hooker. Sadly, if you're like me,
you won't make shit. Wow. Okay, I mean I knew
Centerfolds had like weird things that happened, but I was
never aware of like that there was a free for all.
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Was the girl carried out by her father, a customer
or a dancer? Dancer right off the stage.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I've got to say, like if I walked into an
established man saw my daughter up there, I probably do
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I don't know, because I don't want to see my daughter,
I'd more than likely probably just turn around and leave
and then talk to her later after that. That's what
I you know what I mean, I don't wanna do'n't
worry about embarrassinger or whatever it is, But I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I get it, do what you do. I just don't
want to see it.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know, I can't even fucking look at my daughter's
TikTok or fucking Snapchat account without being like get out
of here.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I agree. You use
the words dirty and filthy describe a club, What exactly
do you mean? Dirty usually refers to a club with
a lot of extras aka prostitution services, breastlicking, hj's, BJ's
full sex. Some of these clubs even have live sex shows.
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You can usually tell when a girl is up for
these activities by the way she talks to you. Also,
many will rub your dick over your pants while talking.
That's never happened to me. A little over the pants, handy.
I've never had my penis rubbed in a strip club.
M Nope. And ninety percent of the time they wear
their hair up for logistical reasons. Yeah, that's because they're
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given blore. Yeah. Are there usually fights between strippers? Not usually?
But I did see a girl hide in the hallway
wait till another girl walked by, snatched her by extensions,
and tossed her on the ground, proceeding to punch her
in the face. I stepped over them and went about
my business. Do you have a history of substance abuse? Nope.
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I came from an upper middle class family, and I'm
really honestly pretty normal. I drink and smoke cigarettes, but
only do these things at work. Why spend money on
booze when I can get it at work for free?
And drugs just don't appeal to me. I respect my body.
It's interesting you say you came from a upper middle
class family. Are class distinctions visible among the dancers to you?
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In my opinion, yes, Generally, the fourth type tends to
be from a situation with little or no opportunity. The
first type either tends to be rebelling against daddy or
again from a bad situation. Second and third descriptions are mixed.
What's the process of getting a job at a strip club?
This parts for you, lindsay. This is how you get
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a job as a stripper. Do your makeup and hair,
select a nice two piece outfit, Call the club, ask
about audition times, Drive to the club, ask for the manager,
wait between five to sixty minutes for them to appear.
Dance on a side stage for thirty seconds. They then
tell you yes or no if you're cute enough to
be hired. They don't give a fuck about your personality.
No club asks you anything besides aside from the occasional
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if you have danced before, right, which makes sense. They're
in for looks. Yeah you pretty? Are you pretty? And
can you look like you have some rhythm after dancing
like a lane? I bet you if you got nice enough? Right? Shit,
they let you do it. You never know, right but
over they're trying to peel of the message. They're not
niching that's fun. How long do you attend and stay
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in this career? I say fifty percent of my money
every night, regardless of whether it's a good or night
or a bad night. I'm happily married, so my husband
and I are saving up to start a business of
her own, probably two more years. How does your husband
deal with you being a dancer. My husband is a model,
so we always say we have essentially the same job.
When he does a shoot with a female model, they
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have to act intimate, et cetera. For me, I act
like I'm interested. I just do it topless. I also
do not allow touching of any bikini area, even the boobs,
so limiting the contact works well. His only request is
that I take a shower before bed after work, which
I totally understand and have no issue complying. With that. Fuck. Yes, yeah,
I don't mean you leave that steinaky ass shit in
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the garage. Absolutely, don't bring your glitter filled candy into
our bed. You use the gift shower before you come
in here. I don't even want to see your gear bag.
Oh right, Oh I got some new clothes for work today.
You want to see?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do they have a shower in the club? Can you
use that before coming home and then shower again? So
you don't bring the smell to our house at all?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Do any of your friends or family know your profession.
I'm very out with it. Everyone knows. I have a
single dad, and he basically told me if I was
okay with it, respecting my own boundaries and not keeping
myself up at night, he was cool with it. My
friends most were great, and the ones who got judgy
got kicked to the curb. Okay. Is it safe to
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date a non crazy stripper? There's such thing. Yes, Honestly,
I am very happily married, totally normal outside the club.
I leave work at I leave work and mentally stable.
Most girls I associate with me are like me, but
I'm very careful whom I make friends with at work.
This is interesting if she tells you upfront what she does,
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like first date, This is a good sign. If they
try and hide it run Okay. So if they disclose
to you and you're trying to date, then like, hey bye,
I'm a stripper just see you know, then that's apparently
a good thing. Okay, this is another good part. What
is the best way of go about asking out a stripper?
I would simply say something like I've really enjoyed talking
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to you and was wondering if you're opposed to making
friends in the club, because if not, I'd love to
hang out sometime. M m. It's an interesting way to
put it right. Don't say take you out to dinner
or anything like that. We hear all night dudes who
want to take us to dinner or save us or something.
Make it very casual. Don't make it seem like you're
asking her on a date. You can set that up
once you actually meet up with her.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So I've always felt that, like dancers and bartenders, it's
just off limits, just bad because they get enough for
that shit from every swinging deck that walks into the door.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know what I mean, Saw, I'm like, I'm I know,
I'm nothing special, So I'm not even gonna fuck with it.
If you can go for it, have fun.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
But I just assume leave them alone because they get
that all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Anyway. I only dated one bartender, and uh, I was
just a customer and whatever. She would start conversations and
I was like, oh, whatever, she's just starting conversations. Yeah,
and then she would say things, Hey, come back later,
and I was like okay. And so she knew. I mean,
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you tend to tell, you know, bartenders things that you
wouldn't normally tell strangers, and and so she knew about
my life and what was going on with me. And
she always was the engager. She was always the one like, hey,
do you want to go eat something? Like I never
because I didn't well I'm usually pretty oblivious to that stuff.
But two, I always like you. I was like, I'm
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in your world, right, I'm not going to sit here
and be like, hey.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Try to run your game them. Yeah, that's probably the
best way to go about it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah. And she was like, she didn't drink when she
was a bar She didn't she didn't drink, right, and
so well, off all those good things. Yeah, that's the
only time. But I'm with you. I'm not asking no no, no, no,
no no no no. Reverse like girls and male bartenders,
that's like a whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well yeah, because I mean male's just gonna take sure.
Why not you got tits and a pulse?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, right, you're the second or third one I've had
this week? Right, yeah? Yeah? And I remember telling people
with that girl that worked at the bar, people are like, ah,
she she doesn't talk or date or even hang out
with people outside of the bar. And so once you
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know the rules, you're you're even a little more free.
I think you're like, ah, okay, yeah, no chance, so
might as well just fucking be who I am a
total funk up.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Right, And if she happens to like it, then good
for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
H Okay. Conversation with a yeah, fascinating, right. I love
stuff like that, learn about just get to hear. And
then when they're good, questions too and not like have
you ever given her night? Stration? Right? How many handies
do you do? A? Yeah? And the person being interviewed
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has to be a good interviewee, like to be able
to give response like a pissed in a bottle made
someone they drink it, like.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, Okay, it's very open.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, you guys have a fantastic week. Last patio party
of the year is next week, so we'll tell you
more about that later.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Bye bye,