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Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm so excited for this podcast one because I have
something I think is so bizarre to share with you
guys that I'm just excited. And also it has zero
to do with sex, which usually are this extra podcast
is always sexual themed. But I have this story about
(00:38):
really crazy ways that elephants died, which sounds not exciting, okay,
but they're all pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Please tell me one jumped off of a skyscraper. You're
just gonna have to wait. Oh man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The first one takes place right here in Oklahoma. This
happened when the CIA was testing the effects of.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The use of LSD. I already like where this is going.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, and so one Oklahoma scientist decided to see how
it would affect an elephant.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Won what happens if we dose an elephant?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Mean, so, like, okay, that makes sense. We test stuff
on animals to see how it works. And for those
who know, elephants have this ability to turn into it's
called must and it's when they get kind of aggressive
and crazy, and that happens when their testosterone levels rise
sixty times their normal levels. Now, the scientists that did this,
he predicted that LSD would trigger MUST in this elephant
(01:43):
and so he had tested it by administering the drug
to a three ton zoo elephant named Tusco. Now, Tusco
weighed forty times what a human does, So what.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Should you do? Got a multiply dose, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
By forty times, to see if it would be the
same human effect, right, Except he didn't. He did three
thousand times, and he shot it into his ass, to
the elephant's ass. Yes, gotcha. The elephant didn't enter must
like was suspected. Instead, he kneeled over and started defecating.
(02:17):
He may have recovered, but the LSD didn't kill him.
The drugs he injected to counter the LSD actually did.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, can you use a bunch of cocaine or something?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't know, but I guess you got a test
theories and now we know, Hey, we learned three thousand
is not a good idea for LSD injection into the
ass of an elephant.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
How did you get to ask? By the way, that's
the biggest target.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's true. Can he go to jail for animal cruelty?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's in the name of science? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Maybe speaking of stuff stuffed in an elephant's ass.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Oh, jeez.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So Popolio the tenth he received an elephant as a
gift from Portugal in fifteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh that's nice of them, is it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So the elephant spent two happy years in Rome. It
had its own custom built house. It would parade through
the city, and then it got constipated and it caused
a real bad problem, as we know constipation can do.
So papal doctors said, hey, let's give him a laxative.
Makes sense, but apparently it's a gold laxative, which is
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a way that has worked on humans. So they shoved
gold in this elephant's ass.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And he didn't do well. He died. Wow. And so
this elephant is now entombed in the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That is awesome. I wonder if they still got the
gold in his butt. I hope they got it to
be on. And then when they did some modernization four
hundred and fifty years later, they found the skeleton and
they thought for sure they found a dinosaur in this area.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
This one is crazy. So there was arethe's bizarre. These
are the most bizarre ways, and elephants died. So a
circus came to town in Aquaca, Illinois, and this happened
in nineteen seventy two. So the circus came to town.
Norma Jean is the elephant. It got tied chained.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
To a tree.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well while they were setting up for the circus, a
storm came in lightning struck the tree, It ran through
the chain and electrocuted the elephant. The circus skidaddled and
left him there dead, and the town people of a
thousand people didn't know what to do or how to
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get rid of a six thousand elephants, so they had
to dig a hole. They dug it twelve feet deep
with the backo right next to where the body laid.
Five years later, someone raised seven hundred dollars to erect
a monument. And to me, that's like nineteen seventy two,
you're like, uh, where does Somebody.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Was out walking their elephant and yeah, here after it died.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It aliens. Aliens dropped this elephant. This one's pretty crazy too.
So the Tower of London had a bunch of animals
kind of like a zoo, and they thought like at
one point the these leopards were leopards, but they won't
they were actually lions. And so they had an elephant
that was sent by the King of France in twelve
(05:46):
fifty five. I'll say that again, twelve fifty five, nearly
a thousand years ago. It was the first elephant to
come to Britain in over a thousand years. King Henry
the Third said, let's take care of this elephant elephant.
Put it to the side, built it a great place,
gave it an expensive diet. But that doesn't mean good
because he gave it a gallon of wine a day,
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like to drink it. Killed the elephant rather quickly, so
they buried the elephant at the Tower of London, and
after a couple of years, King Henry felt bad, so
he dug up the elephant and they put the bones
in Westminster Abbey, which is for like high level people. Yeah, kings, queens,
Stephen Hawkins is there. Yeah, some famous poets and stuff
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like that are there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And these elephant bones.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh yeah, listen, that was the first elephant in a
thousand years. We haven't had an elephant in these parts
since two fifty five.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This one you might know. Do you know who Jumbo
the elephant is, No, Dumbo's third cousin. Yeah, it's the
inspiring elephant to Disney's Dumbo belonged to P. T.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Barnum, and it's the.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Sole reason that we have the word Jumbo as a
word was because of this elephant. So Jumbo died on
September fifteenth, eighty eighteen eighty five, when a freight train
fatally mowed him down.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The train was going to hit Tom Thumb, a smaller elephant,
not to be confused with the two foot tall performer
in the circus, and Jumbo. The elephant saw what was happening,
stepped in save this little elephant's life, and then.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Got hit by the train. He was a hero, right.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
People thought the story wasn't true and that P. T.
Barnum just was being a showman. That train hit Jumbo
with him without him managing to step out of the
way is crazy. And it's enough that people speculated that
Barnum stage the entire thing because he thought Jumbo was
going to die, and you know, get people excited and
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not have any animosity towards PT.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Barnum.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So in twenty eighteen, researchers analyzed Jumbo's preserved remains okay
to see signs of any disease that proved his days
had been numbered. They didn't find any signs, but they
did find that he died with the weather joints of
an animal twice his age, And they also found that
the train collision didn't fracture any of his bones. He
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died of internal organ failures thanks to the crash.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
If you would have asked me, because you hear all
these great things about Pt. Barnum and all that he
was a not a good human. No, And then you
hear if I'd have said, Hey, a train hit an elephant,
I would imagine train accidents like trains hitting things back
in the day were super common.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, and I would think that the train would derail
and go everywhere if it hit an anmlephant.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I I hear you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But trains have this amazing ability to knock the shit
out of anything.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right right, They're pretty solid, and as elephants are large,
there still got liquid insides.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I think a train traveling at that time, what
maybe fifty fifty five maybe if it's going fully five,
just the inertia behind it, wait behind it would push
through whatever it was. Yeah, so it probably split that
some bitch right in half fucking elephant guts everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And food. Yeah, that's what was the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So all Bet was an Indian elephant, one of the
first elephants to come to America. A farmer bought her
as a circus animal and took her on a tour
of the East coast, showing her off to paying customers.
On July twenty fourth, eighteen sixteen, a second farmer lie
in wait along the scheduled route, then fired a must
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get to kill the elephant. Ah Thorny's arrested the farmer
that killed him, and they charged him with trespassing, as
the legal code at the time left unclear the exact
other offense he'd had committed.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then they released him without trying him.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
As a result, the public never did learn why he
did what he did. They do know that the farmer
that killed him was in financial trouble, thanks in part
that y're to the climate disaster set off by an
Indonesian volcano that we're all now learning about. As I
just said it, and yeah, they killed old Bet. Just dude,
(10:38):
I think killing an elphants? What the idea of killing
an elephant? Listen, I'm all for hunting, do what you like,
but the idea of going up to this massive elephant
and shooting it is just this weird.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have a small dick energy right right, I can
see how you get there.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I would think that the farmer wouldn't have killed the
elephant if he was in financial struggle. He was trying
to kill the other farmer that was taking the elephant
around and he.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Missed, or you killed the way the other guy's making
money in his farm, succeeding, allowing him to have money
to buy your farm.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, huh is there a there's gotta be a movie
about old Bet That sounds like a fantastic storyline.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If not, Hey, Netflix, I've got an idea. And he's
got a memorial in somers New York in front of
the Elephant Hotel. How many monuments do you think we
have to elephants in this country, because.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It sure seems like there's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The one of the got tip by lightning, they built
a memorial for him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
How many.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Memorials are there for elephants in America? If you had
to guess six, Okay, gimpy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm gonna go with about a tree fit.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Three and fifty. Yeah, okay, there is no official count.
But almost every zoo has a plaque or memorial for
elephants that died on the site. Okay, so Gimpie may
be right, laugh at me all you want.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Not all zoos have have elephants.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, let's just say half of them. Almost every state
has a zoo.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, but it's the biggest zoos that usually.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean, there's the Bronx Zoo in New York. There's
the Central Park Zoo in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Right. Some cities have two, some states have two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean right, right, right, we have two zoos in
this state, and I think both of them have elephants,
don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Then there's circus elephants that have been marked by statues.
There's small statues and benches that are funded by caretakers
in the towns that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They had the elephants.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Makes sense, But there is no national elephant cemetery, which
feels like that make sense?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where you gonna find land big enough?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean I have to clear out a national forest
just for the ship an elephant?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh with a bonfire? I would think, right, would you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Eat an elephant? Elephants?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I don't know if there's any meat. I wouldn't try human.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ah if yeah, if the apocalypse is happening, sure, But
if it's because it's a do you want to go
buy and pick up some some grilling meats?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Then they're like do you want human? I'm like, I'm good,
let's see you get kangaroo? Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Antelope? Oh South Carolina? That bug tender is the flesh.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And they they synthetically grow humans so like not real
people that they may They grow them and have messed
with the They cut the tongues out of them so
they can't talk.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like it's a it's a wild book that because they
need meat, right right, So I like kind of like
a so green sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yes, yeah, And like the famous people right before they die,
they sell their body because rich people want to buy,
like the famous musician and eat them thinking that it
will transfer to them. That's it's a wild book, man,
It is a wild thought process in that environment.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yes, right, I would eat human.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Right trapped on the top of a mountain from a
plane plane crack.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean yes, it's the soccer team I'm playing for crashes.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Would you eat human.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
In a dire situation? Yeah, But like if it's just
the way that it is now. Probably not. I'm sure
it tastes bitter.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, zombie apocalypse happens, right, they know it's happened. We're
not working, people are kind of on their own. It's
very vigilante. At that point, we're three weeks in.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
How much time has to go by before you start
killing humans and eating them?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Lindsay, I mean, I guess it would have to be
a very at least I'm closer to a year.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
A year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think once you realize that all
the food is gone, that for me is where it
has to be at. Like there's no fucking animals at
all whatsoever. Yeah, there's no vegetation and humans are the
only thing that's left. So however long that takes. Because
I'll eat a fucking rat, I don't give a shit,
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you know, I'll eat I'll eat it. I'll eat a rat,
put it stick in its ass and put it over
the fire man or whatever disgusting a skunk, whatever other
kind of disgusting animal you can think of.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't know anyone that's ever eaten a skunk.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, I'm sure that's but I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, I'm just curious what it would be what that would.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Taste like, right, I'm sure it's kind of like that.
What is it the fucking blowfish that like? Or the
lionfish or some shit like. I think it's lionfish.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, where you call like, you can eat it, there's
a chance you can die if it's not prepared, you know,
properly or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Maybe that's the way it is with the skunk. You
can eat it. But if you nick the gland.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So this says that skunk tastes like dark meat chicken
and rabbit together. Okay, they said the meat isn't foul.
Don't confuse the smell that a skunk emulates is that's
what it would taste like. If the scint glands aren't removed,
you can't eat the meat.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
If the scent glands are removed, aren't are not removed,
then you cannot eat the meat.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Properly cleaned, slow cooked skunk is a common food that
was eaten in the Great Depression because bitches be hungry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Were they eating people?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Then?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm sure there were cases. It's possible. Yeah, I'm sure
there were cases up in the mountains. I'd like to
say one or two years. I'd like to say when
I know there's no food available, But if we're in
a post apocalyptic world, there ain't no goddamn news. There's
no way to check inventory. If I'm hungry, I'm hungry,
and if I got people.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
To eat, and I don't like you, right, But like
if I'm you know, looking out on the vast wilderness
of this world that we live in, and I see
neighbor Tom over here, and then I see a possum
over here, I'm gonna go with the possum first.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But if the possum is elusive and neighbor Tom is
sitting there, you lazy bitch. At that point, this isn't
about will you like me? This is I need to
survive for tomorrow. And if I can't catch the possum,
fuck you Tom, right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just hope that he doesn't get you.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
First, That's what I'm saying. Everybody's on their defense at
that point. Yes, you know, it is vigilanteism. It isn't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We're friends, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Think that, like I would like to think that I
can tell what's about to happen by.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The look in your eyes when you're walking towards me.
You're not gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hey, well I'm the distraction, right, so you don't look
behind you a.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Flash of that book I was referring to.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That happens anybody who is against it, you are they
put you in a like a prison type of thing.
H so you can't spread cancer that This isn't a
good idea, right, It's a wild book. There's sex in it,
just so you know. Okay, Yeah, I hope they make
it a movie because it'll fuck people's head up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's about the only way that I can get into it.
I think you would like it. Sounds like it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I think you would like to It could be a movie.
It definitely could be an HBO series.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah. I tried watching that it series, Welcome to Darry
and get into it?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Would you think of the first step? At least the
first episode should have grabbed you by your ball? Then
I found it slow, also had some startling moments for sure. Yeah,
I'll give it to you, like in the second episode,
because I've kind of slacked off a little bit too.
But I've slacked off on a lot of them lately,
like I'm trying to get caught up on fucking land man.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So there was a couple episodes, I'm like, Okay, this
is pretty fucking lame, but continue watching it anyway, Yeah,
just because it gives me something to watch. But I
thought that first episode was like, holy shit, what all
these kids are dead?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But yeah, I don't remember that part. I maybe to
go back and watch. You should go back and watch it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They're in the fucking theater and she's like, well, hold
on to my head, and then and all the fucking
and everything, the dust settles, and then she's got that
girl's arm and there's no girl attached because that fucking
weird demon baby thing that ship.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That was another one that was the delivery.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
The delivery in the car was so disturbing.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And I was watching that with my eleven year old
and my one I don't know, because he loves it.
My kids love scary shit, like they love it scary
stuff and it well, so we're watching Welcome to Darry
and I'm like, are you enjoying this show? And he's like,
(20:00):
I mean that was disturbing, but yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like, Okay, I can't imagine my kid, who's ten, yeah, sorry,
ten and a half watching somebody's arm getting pulled off
or much less a birth, much less a demonic birth.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah. That was a fucked up scene too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, that's why I'm surprised you didn't you know that
first step that because I don't remember that part was
that first episode of The Grabby. I was like, holy shit,
And like I said, there's a couple of them, but definitely,
I think it's definitely worth a watch, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, I'll revisit. I'll revisit. Maybe I can get my
wife to watch it with me. Oh yeah, cause she
likes No, she doesn't like, she does not, But I
could tricker. I think I think I could tricker with
that one. Listen, thank you guys for listening to us
all this year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
We're pretty grateful and pretty lucky that you guys put
up with us in our absurdity and our chaos and
uh man, just another great year and I'm glad we
got to do it again together and looking forward to
next year to see what if we can make it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Through the year. I wish I was joking.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So you guys, have a great holiday, enjoy your families,
treat it like it's the last Christmas you're gonna get
with them, And we.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Love you guys. And have a great holiday.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
B
I'm so excited for this podcast one because I have
something I think is so bizarre to share with you
guys that I'm just excited. And also it has zero
to do with sex, which usually are this extra podcast
is always sexual themed. But I have this story about
(00:38):
really crazy ways that elephants died, which sounds not exciting, okay,
but they're all pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Please tell me one jumped off of a skyscraper. You're
just gonna have to wait. Oh man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The first one takes place right here in Oklahoma. This
happened when the CIA was testing the effects of.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The use of LSD. I already like where this is going.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, and so one Oklahoma scientist decided to see how
it would affect an elephant.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Won what happens if we dose an elephant?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Mean, so, like, okay, that makes sense. We test stuff
on animals to see how it works. And for those
who know, elephants have this ability to turn into it's
called must and it's when they get kind of aggressive
and crazy, and that happens when their testosterone levels rise
sixty times their normal levels. Now, the scientists that did this,
he predicted that LSD would trigger MUST in this elephant
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and so he had tested it by administering the drug
to a three ton zoo elephant named Tusco. Now, Tusco
weighed forty times what a human does, So what.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Should you do? Got a multiply dose, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
By forty times, to see if it would be the
same human effect, right, Except he didn't. He did three
thousand times, and he shot it into his ass, to
the elephant's ass. Yes, gotcha. The elephant didn't enter must
like was suspected. Instead, he kneeled over and started defecating.
(02:17):
He may have recovered, but the LSD didn't kill him.
The drugs he injected to counter the LSD actually did.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, can you use a bunch of cocaine or something?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't know, but I guess you got a test
theories and now we know, Hey, we learned three thousand
is not a good idea for LSD injection into the
ass of an elephant.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
How did you get to ask? By the way, that's
the biggest target.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's true. Can he go to jail for animal cruelty?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's in the name of science? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Maybe speaking of stuff stuffed in an elephant's ass.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Oh, jeez.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So Popolio the tenth he received an elephant as a
gift from Portugal in fifteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh that's nice of them, is it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So the elephant spent two happy years in Rome. It
had its own custom built house. It would parade through
the city, and then it got constipated and it caused
a real bad problem, as we know constipation can do.
So papal doctors said, hey, let's give him a laxative.
Makes sense, but apparently it's a gold laxative, which is
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a way that has worked on humans. So they shoved
gold in this elephant's ass.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And he didn't do well. He died. Wow. And so
this elephant is now entombed in the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That is awesome. I wonder if they still got the
gold in his butt. I hope they got it to
be on. And then when they did some modernization four
hundred and fifty years later, they found the skeleton and
they thought for sure they found a dinosaur in this area.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
This one is crazy. So there was arethe's bizarre. These
are the most bizarre ways, and elephants died. So a
circus came to town in Aquaca, Illinois, and this happened
in nineteen seventy two. So the circus came to town.
Norma Jean is the elephant. It got tied chained.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
To a tree.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well while they were setting up for the circus, a
storm came in lightning struck the tree, It ran through
the chain and electrocuted the elephant. The circus skidaddled and
left him there dead, and the town people of a
thousand people didn't know what to do or how to
(04:58):
get rid of a six thousand elephants, so they had
to dig a hole. They dug it twelve feet deep
with the backo right next to where the body laid.
Five years later, someone raised seven hundred dollars to erect
a monument. And to me, that's like nineteen seventy two,
you're like, uh, where does Somebody.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Was out walking their elephant and yeah, here after it died.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It aliens. Aliens dropped this elephant. This one's pretty crazy too.
So the Tower of London had a bunch of animals
kind of like a zoo, and they thought like at
one point the these leopards were leopards, but they won't
they were actually lions. And so they had an elephant
that was sent by the King of France in twelve
(05:46):
fifty five. I'll say that again, twelve fifty five, nearly
a thousand years ago. It was the first elephant to
come to Britain in over a thousand years. King Henry
the Third said, let's take care of this elephant elephant.
Put it to the side, built it a great place,
gave it an expensive diet. But that doesn't mean good
because he gave it a gallon of wine a day,
(06:08):
like to drink it. Killed the elephant rather quickly, so
they buried the elephant at the Tower of London, and
after a couple of years, King Henry felt bad, so
he dug up the elephant and they put the bones
in Westminster Abbey, which is for like high level people. Yeah, kings, queens,
Stephen Hawkins is there. Yeah, some famous poets and stuff
(06:32):
like that are there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And these elephant bones.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh yeah, listen, that was the first elephant in a
thousand years. We haven't had an elephant in these parts
since two fifty five.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This one you might know. Do you know who Jumbo
the elephant is, No, Dumbo's third cousin. Yeah, it's the
inspiring elephant to Disney's Dumbo belonged to P. T.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Barnum, and it's the.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Sole reason that we have the word Jumbo as a
word was because of this elephant. So Jumbo died on
September fifteenth, eighty eighteen eighty five, when a freight train
fatally mowed him down.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The train was going to hit Tom Thumb, a smaller elephant,
not to be confused with the two foot tall performer
in the circus, and Jumbo. The elephant saw what was happening,
stepped in save this little elephant's life, and then.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Got hit by the train. He was a hero, right.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
People thought the story wasn't true and that P. T.
Barnum just was being a showman. That train hit Jumbo
with him without him managing to step out of the
way is crazy. And it's enough that people speculated that
Barnum stage the entire thing because he thought Jumbo was
going to die, and you know, get people excited and
(08:01):
not have any animosity towards PT.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Barnum.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So in twenty eighteen, researchers analyzed Jumbo's preserved remains okay
to see signs of any disease that proved his days
had been numbered. They didn't find any signs, but they
did find that he died with the weather joints of
an animal twice his age, And they also found that
the train collision didn't fracture any of his bones. He
(08:27):
died of internal organ failures thanks to the crash.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
If you would have asked me, because you hear all
these great things about Pt. Barnum and all that he
was a not a good human. No, And then you
hear if I'd have said, Hey, a train hit an elephant,
I would imagine train accidents like trains hitting things back
in the day were super common.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, and I would think that the train would derail
and go everywhere if it hit an anmlephant.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I I hear you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But trains have this amazing ability to knock the shit
out of anything.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right right, They're pretty solid, and as elephants are large,
there still got liquid insides.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I think a train traveling at that time, what
maybe fifty fifty five maybe if it's going fully five,
just the inertia behind it, wait behind it would push
through whatever it was. Yeah, so it probably split that
some bitch right in half fucking elephant guts everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And food. Yeah, that's what was the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So all Bet was an Indian elephant, one of the
first elephants to come to America. A farmer bought her
as a circus animal and took her on a tour
of the East coast, showing her off to paying customers.
On July twenty fourth, eighteen sixteen, a second farmer lie
in wait along the scheduled route, then fired a must
(10:00):
get to kill the elephant. Ah Thorny's arrested the farmer
that killed him, and they charged him with trespassing, as
the legal code at the time left unclear the exact
other offense he'd had committed.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then they released him without trying him.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
As a result, the public never did learn why he
did what he did. They do know that the farmer
that killed him was in financial trouble, thanks in part
that y're to the climate disaster set off by an
Indonesian volcano that we're all now learning about. As I
just said it, and yeah, they killed old Bet. Just dude,
(10:38):
I think killing an elphants? What the idea of killing
an elephant? Listen, I'm all for hunting, do what you like,
but the idea of going up to this massive elephant
and shooting it is just this weird.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I have a small dick energy right right, I can
see how you get there.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I would think that the farmer wouldn't have killed the
elephant if he was in financial struggle. He was trying
to kill the other farmer that was taking the elephant
around and he.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Missed, or you killed the way the other guy's making
money in his farm, succeeding, allowing him to have money
to buy your farm.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, huh is there a there's gotta be a movie
about old Bet That sounds like a fantastic storyline.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If not, Hey, Netflix, I've got an idea. And he's
got a memorial in somers New York in front of
the Elephant Hotel. How many monuments do you think we
have to elephants in this country, because.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It sure seems like there's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The one of the got tip by lightning, they built
a memorial for him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
How many.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Memorials are there for elephants in America? If you had
to guess six, Okay, gimpy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm gonna go with about a tree fit.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Three and fifty. Yeah, okay, there is no official count.
But almost every zoo has a plaque or memorial for
elephants that died on the site. Okay, so Gimpie may
be right, laugh at me all you want.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Not all zoos have have elephants.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, let's just say half of them. Almost every state
has a zoo.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, but it's the biggest zoos that usually.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I mean, there's the Bronx Zoo in New York. There's
the Central Park Zoo in New York.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Right. Some cities have two, some states have two.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean right, right, right, we have two zoos in
this state, and I think both of them have elephants,
don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Then there's circus elephants that have been marked by statues.
There's small statues and benches that are funded by caretakers
in the towns that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They had the elephants.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Makes sense, But there is no national elephant cemetery, which
feels like that make sense?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where you gonna find land big enough?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean I have to clear out a national forest
just for the ship an elephant?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh with a bonfire? I would think, right, would you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Eat an elephant? Elephants?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I don't know if there's any meat. I wouldn't try human.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ah if yeah, if the apocalypse is happening, sure, But
if it's because it's a do you want to go
buy and pick up some some grilling meats?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Then they're like do you want human? I'm like, I'm good,
let's see you get kangaroo? Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Antelope? Oh South Carolina? That bug tender is the flesh.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And they they synthetically grow humans so like not real
people that they may They grow them and have messed
with the They cut the tongues out of them so
they can't talk.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like it's a it's a wild book that because they
need meat, right right, So I like kind of like
a so green sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yes, yeah, And like the famous people right before they die,
they sell their body because rich people want to buy,
like the famous musician and eat them thinking that it
will transfer to them. That's it's a wild book, man,
It is a wild thought process in that environment.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yes, right, I would eat human.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Right trapped on the top of a mountain from a
plane plane crack.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean yes, it's the soccer team I'm playing for crashes.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Would you eat human.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
In a dire situation? Yeah, But like if it's just
the way that it is now. Probably not. I'm sure
it tastes bitter.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, zombie apocalypse happens, right, they know it's happened. We're
not working, people are kind of on their own. It's
very vigilante. At that point, we're three weeks in.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
How much time has to go by before you start
killing humans and eating them?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Lindsay, I mean, I guess it would have to be
a very at least I'm closer to a year.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
A year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think once you realize that all
the food is gone, that for me is where it
has to be at. Like there's no fucking animals at
all whatsoever. Yeah, there's no vegetation and humans are the
only thing that's left. So however long that takes. Because
I'll eat a fucking rat, I don't give a shit,
(15:28):
you know, I'll eat I'll eat it. I'll eat a rat,
put it stick in its ass and put it over
the fire man or whatever disgusting a skunk, whatever other
kind of disgusting animal you can think of.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't know anyone that's ever eaten a skunk.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, I'm sure that's but I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, I'm just curious what it would be what that would.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Taste like, right, I'm sure it's kind of like that.
What is it the fucking blowfish that like? Or the
lionfish or some shit like. I think it's lionfish.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, where you call like, you can eat it, there's
a chance you can die if it's not prepared, you know,
properly or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Maybe that's the way it is with the skunk. You
can eat it. But if you nick the gland.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So this says that skunk tastes like dark meat chicken
and rabbit together. Okay, they said the meat isn't foul.
Don't confuse the smell that a skunk emulates is that's
what it would taste like. If the scint glands aren't removed,
you can't eat the meat.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
If the scent glands are removed, aren't are not removed,
then you cannot eat the meat.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Properly cleaned, slow cooked skunk is a common food that
was eaten in the Great Depression because bitches be hungry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Were they eating people?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Then?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm sure there were cases. It's possible. Yeah, I'm sure
there were cases up in the mountains. I'd like to
say one or two years. I'd like to say when
I know there's no food available, But if we're in
a post apocalyptic world, there ain't no goddamn news. There's
no way to check inventory. If I'm hungry, I'm hungry,
and if I got people.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
To eat, and I don't like you, right, But like
if I'm you know, looking out on the vast wilderness
of this world that we live in, and I see
neighbor Tom over here, and then I see a possum
over here, I'm gonna go with the possum first.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But if the possum is elusive and neighbor Tom is
sitting there, you lazy bitch. At that point, this isn't
about will you like me? This is I need to
survive for tomorrow. And if I can't catch the possum,
fuck you Tom, right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just hope that he doesn't get you.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
First, That's what I'm saying. Everybody's on their defense at
that point. Yes, you know, it is vigilanteism. It isn't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We're friends, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Think that, like I would like to think that I
can tell what's about to happen by.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The look in your eyes when you're walking towards me.
You're not gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hey, well I'm the distraction, right, so you don't look
behind you a.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Flash of that book I was referring to.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That happens anybody who is against it, you are they
put you in a like a prison type of thing.
H so you can't spread cancer that This isn't a
good idea, right, It's a wild book. There's sex in it,
just so you know. Okay, Yeah, I hope they make
it a movie because it'll fuck people's head up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's about the only way that I can get into it.
I think you would like it. Sounds like it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I think you would like to It could be a movie.
It definitely could be an HBO series.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah. I tried watching that it series, Welcome to Darry
and get into it?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Would you think of the first step? At least the
first episode should have grabbed you by your ball? Then
I found it slow, also had some startling moments for sure. Yeah,
I'll give it to you, like in the second episode,
because I've kind of slacked off a little bit too.
But I've slacked off on a lot of them lately,
like I'm trying to get caught up on fucking land man.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So there was a couple episodes, I'm like, Okay, this
is pretty fucking lame, but continue watching it anyway, Yeah,
just because it gives me something to watch. But I
thought that first episode was like, holy shit, what all
these kids are dead?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But yeah, I don't remember that part. I maybe to
go back and watch. You should go back and watch it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They're in the fucking theater and she's like, well, hold
on to my head, and then and all the fucking
and everything, the dust settles, and then she's got that
girl's arm and there's no girl attached because that fucking
weird demon baby thing that ship.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That was another one that was the delivery.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
The delivery in the car was so disturbing.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And I was watching that with my eleven year old
and my one I don't know, because he loves it.
My kids love scary shit, like they love it scary
stuff and it well, so we're watching Welcome to Darry
and I'm like, are you enjoying this show? And he's like,
(20:00):
I mean that was disturbing, but yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like, Okay, I can't imagine my kid, who's ten, yeah, sorry,
ten and a half watching somebody's arm getting pulled off
or much less a birth, much less a demonic birth.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah. That was a fucked up scene too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, that's why I'm surprised you didn't you know that
first step that because I don't remember that part was
that first episode of The Grabby. I was like, holy shit,
And like I said, there's a couple of them, but definitely,
I think it's definitely worth a watch, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, I'll revisit. I'll revisit. Maybe I can get my
wife to watch it with me. Oh yeah, cause she
likes No, she doesn't like, she does not, But I
could tricker. I think I think I could tricker with
that one. Listen, thank you guys for listening to us
all this year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
We're pretty grateful and pretty lucky that you guys put
up with us in our absurdity and our chaos and
uh man, just another great year and I'm glad we
got to do it again together and looking forward to
next year to see what if we can make it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Through the year. I wish I was joking.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So you guys, have a great holiday, enjoy your families,
treat it like it's the last Christmas you're gonna get
with them, And we.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Love you guys. And have a great holiday.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
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