12.03: Alive Again - Hour 3

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
On Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick Coffee.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
In roughly four hours from now, I will I'll be
in front of my TV standing, probably with a bush
light in hand, and I'll be maybe probably not at
not at nine o'clock. The game will just be starting,
but throughout the game I may potentially have a heart attack,
because that's that's what happens whenever. You know, I watch

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Louisville basketball now and it's it's not good for my health,
and it does kind of remind me like, man, you
shouldn't be this wired up, but when you care about
it's so much. And I'm talking about Louisville basketball and
know a lot of you guys listening and gals listening
are the same way. And then you didn't have it.
You were lifeless for so long because of you know,
the previous regime and how the one before that ended.

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Like it kind of feels nice to be alive again.
But I've also kind of found myself, you know, like thinking, man,
I shouldn't I shouldn't be this way. Maybe whenever it's
the new norm that you're going to be in big
games like tonight and it becomes more routine, I'll get
a little bit more I guess conditioned for it, but man,
the battle for Atlantis was a ride. The Indiana game

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was awesome just because you beat them so badly and
you saw this team really I think, at their ceiling,
and that was great. And the next day it's a
little bit of a different game. You go to overtime.
It's a nail biter, and everybody was probably you know,
stressed and losing their mind on Thanksgiving, at least I was.
Maybe I'm just assuming others were doing it to make

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myself not feel as bad about my behavior during these games.
But I was at Churchill Downs with the family, and
you know, my son is picking out his horse and
you know, having a family day, and I had to
run to the corner and just get out my phone
and watch the end of the game because I couldn't.
I couldn't. I mean I kind of blocked out almost
like not knowing what was going on. Like I would
hit pause on YouTube TV and then if there would

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be a big play where I'm like, all right, man,
these are huge, this is a huge possession, I gotta
hit pause because I don't know right now if my
heart can handle like what's about to happen like I
may have a heart attack. Let me take a deep breath,
let me let me get another drink or something like that.
Is the benefit of watching these games at times on
your devices, your phone, your tablet or whatever. And if
you have you know, and I think really any service.

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I would say now when it comes to how you
watch live sports, you can hit pause. I find myself
hitting pause because I'm just like, oh God, I can't
take it. Let me take a deep breath. I don't
know what's about to happen, but I know it's either
going to be a really big moment that helps you win,
or it's gonna be the moment you realize you're gonna lose.
And I just need to be mentally prepared. And yes,
I know I sound like a lunatic, but it's it's

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just the truth. So it was nice to feel alive again.
And tonight Louisville's got another chance to get a win,
and if it's close, I'm probably gonna be a madman.
And I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way.
All Right, Coffee and Company Hour number three here on
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(03:04):
Nick Coffee. I hope you knew that. If not, now
you do. Austin Montgomery was on the side today taking
you up until six o'clock. So before I get into
the to the to the tough news that we got
earlier today in regards to well yesterday's case and prior today,
it's Korin Johnson. So we'll talk a little bit about
sort of my view on how Louisville can try to

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salvage this situation, you know, best case scenario. I mean
I found myself feeling in a feeling like I'm in
a rare spot being the guy who you know is
seeing it glass half full, being the optimist, because I
was surprised and kind of irritated. I mean, los people
can have their own opinion. I'm sure I've got opinions
every day that you guys are irritated by or don't

(03:48):
agree with. So I just was surprised more than anything
to see so many Louisville fans acting as if the
loss of Cason and korn Johnson means that like Louislle's
going to be terrible this year, and nobody really said
that directly, But I mean, I still think we've got
some good pieces to work with to where you could
find yourself in the NSAA tournament. And I think because
maybe we haven't been a part of the NSTUAA tournament
in so long and we don't we haven't even really

(04:09):
needed to tune in for selection Sunday in about what
four years, Maybe that has led people to forget that
they put sixty eight teams in, so it's not crazy
to think they could find their way to the tournament.
I didn't say they were going to go to the
final four without Cason Pryor and Koran Johnson. Clearly their
ceiling is not as high without these guys, But I
still think that there's enough here that you could end

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up having a good enough year to find yourself in
the tournament. But I can understand why some disagree. But
they're still favorites in this game, by the way, which
I know that doesn't mean they're gonna win, and we
shouldn't look at spreads as the sign of okay. Well,
actually no, I think we do. Like I don't know
about you, but sometimes I guess it, like tonight, I'm

(04:52):
a little surprised they're favored, especially after the news about
case in prior yesterday. Not as much about Korn because
Korn hasn't played since the Tennessee game. Like you played
your best basketball when he wasn't playing, And I don't
mean you got better because he was gone, but like
the good that you saw from Louisville, he wasn't a
factor in because he was already hurt. So whenever you
are favored in a game, I think and you lose,

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Like sometimes like you're not surprised at the end at
the end of the day, because you were actually surprised
you were favored, Like people weaponize that against their team,
like how could we lose? We were favored? But then
you know, whenever I don't know, I find myself at
times overvaluing what I see on a sports book app
as far as all right, well, that's what should happen,

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because you know, believe it or not, they're wrong a lot.
You know, they're not wrong enough to where it's not
a very profitable business to run a sports book, but
you know, at the same point in time, you know,
like they clearly get it wrong. I mean, Louisille was
favored against Tennessee. Think about that, and it didn't work out.
So anyways, real quick though, I wanted to mention this

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right around five o'clock. You know, if you've got a
radio show, you've got a platform. And I'm very appreciative
of having this platform that I have each and every
day to do this whatever you want to call it,
I enjoy it. I have a lot of fun. So
you know, I'm going to use this platform here to
wish my mother happy birthday. Today is my mom's birthday,
So happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Happy birthday, Mama. Coffee.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
She's not a coffee she was no, okay, I'm sorry.
She's she's remarried, she's she's a Donahue. But yes, my mother,
Patricia Andnette Donahue, is today's her birthday. So happy birthday mom.
I don't know if she's listening.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
But wow, my mom's name is Patricia too.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Nice you that. I bet she's a good mom.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Now she's a great mom. And happy birthday, Patricia.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You're you're tasked with being I mean, she's Patty too
to a lot of people. But yeah, I did full
legal there. Uh, her full legal name well government, yeah,
for everybody to know her name. But happy birthday to
my mother. I love you and you are you are
the best. So I hope that you're having a good
day and I look forward to celebrating your birthday with
you tomorrow when we go to dinner. So right, happy birthday, Mom.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Where were we going to dinner?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Or surprise?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't know for sure. It's one of those things
where like I'm just going to show up because you know,
it's her, she gets to pick. It's her day, and
h and and and we'll we'll make it work, all right.
So just a quick update here on this on this
Old Miss team. We did talk with Cel Brown earlier
in regards to this matchup, and if there's one word
to describe and it's cliche, but it's true. If there's

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one word to describe Chris Beard and his style as
a coach and the teams that he's had, rather it
be at Texas Tech Texas briefly or where he's at
now Will Miss. They're tough, They're physical, and that's the
first thing you know you're going to be challenged with
when you play a Chris Beard coach team, can you
match their toughness? And he has won a lot of

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basketball games with teams that don't have the edge and talent,
but they're just tough as nails. I mean, I remember
one of Louisville's best teams, a team that I think
still could have made a deep run had we had
a tournament that year. But if you remember, they played
in the I think it might have been the Jimmy
V Classic or the inning of his Jimmy V Classic
up in New York. And Chris Beard was still at
Texas Tech at the time. And that team, I mean,

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they had some guys back that had made a deep run.
I think they went all the way to the championship
game the year before that, So I don't want to
say that they didn't have any talent. But you know,
Chris Beard, he wins. I mean, and obviously, let's be real,
he wouldn't be at Old Miss if it wasn't for
what happened with him at Texas. So you're going to
be challenged in a major way tonight when it comes
to just the physicality that Old Miss is going to bring.

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And you know they've got They've got a lot of transfers,
like most teams in college basketball do these days. And
you know one of the guys that has really kind
of settled in nicely in the two years, well, I
guess a year and some change into the tenure here
for Chris Beard at Old Miss is a former Saint
Peter's transfer. And I don't remember this guy doing a

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whole lot for the Saint Peter's team that knocked off Kentucky.
But if I did see this young man and I
knew that he did have a role in that, I
would shake his hand and tell him thank you. I
don't you know, I don't want him to win tonight,
but he's probably been I would say. And I don't
even know how many guys are back from Ole Miss's
team last year, but Jalen Murray, he's averaging fourteen and
a half points a game. He's their leading scorer. He

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played at Saint Peter's for looks like two years and
then ended up. Yeah he was a freshman. Yeah, he
was a freshman on the on the team that knocked
off Kentucky in the tournament. And then he's been at
Ole Miss the last couple of years, averaged about fourteen
a game, last year and he's averaging right around that
this year. So he's the guy who leads him in scoring.
But they're really really balanced. Matthew Murrell another guy averaging

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right around fourteen points fifteen points a game, and you know,
he's been there at Ole Miss for five years. I
think he initially played for who was the coach that
was at Middle Tennessee State that took the Old Miss
job that ended up Kermit Davis. He was a Kerma
Davis guy, and he's stuck around and he's been there
for a while and he's been productive for every year
he's been in college. Another guard that you should be

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familiar with, Sean Padula. He is the sharpshooter who transferred
in from virgin He's averaging about thirteen points a game.
Jamien Breakfield a guy who I remember was very close
to committing to Luke Murray and Chris Mack when he
was in high school, only to then be offered at
the last minute by Duke. Ended up at Duke, didn't
play a lot, transferred to I think he transferred to

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Ole Miss right after leaving Duke and he's been there
ever since. Fifth year guy averaging about eleven points and
six boards. And then drey Davis, a former Louisville cardinal
who played here for a couple of years before moving
on to Seaton Hall, had a really good two year
stretch there at Seaton Hall, and then is finishing his
last year of eligibility here at Ole Miss and he's
averaging eleven points a game as well. So they've got

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five guys that are averaging double figures, that are very balanced.
They don't shoot it that well as far as you know,
as far as you know an overall team, but obviously
Shampadula is a guy who is is is out there
for one reason, and that's the knockdown three point shots.
So you know you're gonna have to to to bring
the physicality. And I feel like this is a game

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that you're not gonna get a lot of really good
looks from three because I think Chris Beard's teams are
typically pretty good at taking that away. They're gonna slow
it down, They're gonna want to just play in the
half court and beat you up. So Chucky Hepburn's gonna
have to I mean, he's got to do this against
everybody this year that you play. That is that is
this caliber of an opponent. He's gonna have to initiate offense.

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He's gonna have to score, get to the free throw line,
and create for others. And you know that's a given
when you play good teams. But I think this is
one of those nights where you need the good shooting
Louisville team. You know, late in the game they missed
some threes against Indiana that made it to where that
ended up being a thirty seven percent night for Louisville
as far as threes, But I think you're gonna need

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to you know, it's gonna be one of those games
where if I see them missing a lot of decent
to good looks, then I'm gonna worry about. Okay, like
you're gonna if you're gonna, like, if you're going to
beat a team like Ole Miss, you're gonna need to
make those shots. And look, that's a given, right you
want to win basketball games, you gotta make shots, you
gotta score points. But I feel like the battle here

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to night between these two teams is going to be
who can more effectively control tempo and style. I don't
think Chris Beard's the kind of coach that really is
out there trying to have as many possessions as possible.
You know what, Pat Kelsey's the opposite. He wants as
many possessions as possible. He wants the game to be
sped up, not because he thinks he's going to go

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beat you in a track meet. I think he likes
his team and their ability to play in transition. But
I also think they The Indiana game is the best
evidence you need as to what can happen when you
get a team sped up and they're out of their
comfort zone. Indiana was turning it over like crazy, missing
layups left and right because they just weren't comfortable. And
Louisville thrives at that pace and that's when they're at

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their best. So it's going to be a fight to
see who can get it at their pace and their style.
And to be honest, Louisville was not able to do
that against the two teams they played after beating Indiana,
and it was nice to see against West Virginia they
found some rhythm offensively in the half court. Chucky kind
of took over did his thing prior obviously was a
big factor in that game too, And then against Oklahoma

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they just kept battling, but in the half court you
could tell one team was much more suited for the
game to be played at that pace, and it was
Oklahoma and they were able to pull it out. So look,
losing Case and Pryor and losing Coran Johnson for the year,
no doubt it changes how everybody views expectations for the season.
I totally totally understand that. But I still think this

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team can make the tournament. I mean, maybe they get
blown out tonight and I have to realize how foolish
it was to think that. But I mean, I'm just
telling you what I believe, and I don't know. I
like Chucky. Hepburn is the best player on this team,
and what he did and who he did it against
tells me that, Like, you know, if he's eighty percent

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of what he was in a couple of those games
in the Bahamas, really just overall experience for him in
the Bahamas, I mean, i'd say that's like that's the
most important thing for Louisville. And he's gonna have bad
nights probably, and that'll probably not be good for Louisvill
when they play good teams because there's no Corn Johnson.
The rest of the season. But I don't know, it's
a weird feeling. It's a weird feeling to know that

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I'm seeming a little bit more optimistic about this team
in this season moving forward than than. You know, I'm
not the majority, but at least in some fans, I'm
usually the guy everybody yells at says, why are you
so negative? Gloom and doom? And I feel like it's
some of you guys doing that this time around, and
not as much meat.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Just think we're there's where's three wins away from matching
literally last season's total, and another seven from matching the
last two years total, and we're just only in December.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yep, yep. And those are the kind of things that
like probably needs to be set a little more than
they are, not to say that, hey, we're just better
than Kenny Payne. Life's gonna be grand. But no, like
I I'm enjoying just being alive. That sounds that sounds all.
That sounds real dramatic and like super serious for something
that is not as deep as that. But like, as

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a fan like I, you know, Louiva could have been
fully healthy against teams like this last year and I
would have not got off the couch during the game
with any excitement because I would just know what was
gonna happen. Yeah, and you know we're not there anymore.
And that's good. All right, quick break, we'll come back here.
On the other side, we got to talk some college football,
not only the college football playoff rankings that are going
to come out tonight. Coaches are really telling on themselves

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and I'll tell you why. But for Jeff Brohm, I
think he's positioned to really clean up once again in
the portal. And there's a lot of guys within the
show even that have announced their leading Louisville and I
wish them well. But so far, I think the trend continues.
Jeff Brohm's been able fingers crossed to this point. Keep
the guys you really want to keep around, and the

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guys that you know want to move on. You wish
him well, and you go get somebody that can probably
help you. That's better. All right, don't go anywhere, keep
it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on
Sports Talk seven nine day.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So the only team favored tonight in the acc SEC
Challenge By the way, this is just Night one. There'll
be more games tomorrow, and there might even be some
on Wednesday too, or I guess Thursday. I don't know.
I mean, maybe it's just a two day event. Either way,
tonight is Night one, and Louisville's the only team that
is in fact favored in their matchup Kentucky currently according

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to FanDuel is. Let me refresh here again, if there's
a way to filter out, Yeah, here we go. Kentucky
is now favored by one and a half. That's what
it was when we started the show today, but I
think it was closer to three or four when it opened.
So maybe Clemson ends up being a challenge for Kentucky
and maybe they end up maybe they end up beating them.

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They are at home, and they did go to the
late eight, the Elite eight last year. But I mean
that this is not the same team, and I mean,
I don't think Clemson's very good. But I also I
would say the reason why I feel it's much more
likely that Kentucky will win and cover is or so
because I think Kentucky's really good, not as much that

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I think Clemson stinks. But I'm also not gonna lie
to you and tell you that I think Clemson's any
good because I mean, I guess they don't have the
type of loss I was thinking that they had. They
did lose to to Boise State, which I don't think
that's a great loss this year. But you know, what,
do I know? I don't follow the Mountain West as
close as others, But yeah, right now you've got this
Clemson team with wins against a bunch of you know,

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the teams you typically play more often than not in
November and December. But they did be Penn State, which
Penn State that was their first loss of the season,
so I guess that is somewhat of a not a
huge win. But maybe Clemson's better than I realized, because
I the more I look at the spread, the more
I'm just thinking I'm wrong about Clemson being really down.
But I still believe what I believe. I did watch

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that Boise State game and I did lose that bet,
so that maybe that's why I'm just sour on this
Clemson team. But Brad Wenwell has been at Clemson a
long time, and he did break through last year and
get to the Elite eight. But I mean, I just
I don't think that they're anything close to what they
were a year ago. And honestly, I think they last
year were a fine team that you know, just finally

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broke through and won some tournament games. Again, to go
back to what we talked about earlier, the tournament is
really all that matters, ultimately what matters when it comes
to college basketball, and that's what makes college basketball unique.
But it doesn't really tell the whole story. So like
Clemson last year made the Elite Eight. That's a big deal.
You can't take that away from him. That is huge,
that has value, But I don't think that Clemson was

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close to being one of the best eight teams in
the country. So, you know, I just think this is
I mean, I I don't want to do it, but
I may have to just hammer Kentucky money line because
I just feel like this is insane to see them
at minus one and a half. I guess not only
I was gonna, I would take a minus one and
a half, not money line. I mean. And by the way,

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real quick, before we talk football, Austin, if you are
betting a team that is favored or I guess a
dog by a point than I have for two points
in basketball, Like, if I'm taking you to cover as
a dog and it's only like two three points, I
typically just take money line, and sometimes I've had some
bad beats with it, but I'll accept that. Like I'll

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just think, like, hey, if you're right there and you
end up losing by two instead of winning, like it's
to me. I don't know, I just I find it
more enjoyable to watch a game knowing, hey, I just
need them to win, yeah, and not worry about free
throws late.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now, sometimes it can burn you, but that hook always
gets you, dude. Yeah, so it might as well. Might
as well just go ahead and just up that value
a little bit and just go ahead take the money
line that way you're knowing just if you're especially if
it's like you said, if it's at like one or two,
if you're already kind of cheering for them to keep
it that close anyways, might as well just cheer for
them to win.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah. So, if you are a Clemson better tonight, you've
got Clemson plus one and a half, you could get
that at minus one fourteen, or you could take a
money line at minus one oh five. Yeah, And I
mean again, you may if they ended up losing by one.
You would you would lose, and that would be what
some a bad beat. But I think a bad beat
is just like if I know going in that's something

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that could potentially happen, and I'm still willing to do it,
then I can still claim my law. I mean, I
still lost and it's still my fault. But like, I
don't look at that as a bad beat. That's just,
you know, a calculated decision that you make and it
sometimes doesn't work out all right. So the Louisville football
roster is like most rosters in the country. Next year

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probably gonna be a lot different, and I've tried my
best to keep up with every player that has announced
what they're going to be doing. The big news in
the good news is the Colin Lacey's coming back, and
that's huge. We talked about that earlier in the show.
He is returning for his final season after deciding to
opt out this year in red shirt, and it worked out.
It paid off. It was a good decision for both
sides here, and it still clearly bothers some people. We

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had some people texting in earlier mentioning that they still
have a sour taste in their mouth after him deciding
to kind of quit on the team. And I can't
tell you that you're wrong, because that is kind of
what he did. But it's just, you know, it's the
new world we're in and you don't have to like it.
But I think if you at least for a second,
consider what this is for these young men. This is

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a job to them.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is a chance for them to take advantage of
their ability. Right. The fact that you can play high
level college football means you can also make money to
do it, and it's money that you probably won't be
able to make right out of college unless you're going
to the NFL. Like Colin Lacy's one of those guys
that and he may be an NFL player. I think

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he's really talented, so but let's just say he's a
guy that doesn't fit in the NFL. Well, he'll make
more money probably in one final year of playing college
football than he will in his first couple of years
at an entry level job out of college. I don't
know what he's going to do after Kyle, I don't
know what his career path would be. Again, he wants

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to play in the NFL and maybe he does that,
but even if he's on the practice squad, I mean,
think about yourself as an employeee at your job. You're
gonna do everything you can to put yourself in a
position that benefits you and your family, not your employer.
I mean, you work for your employer, and you know

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you rely on them to give you a paycheck, but
you also are looking out for yourself, which is why
at times you'll leave your job to go to another
one if it's gonna be a better job where you're
gonna make more money. And it's still so different than
what we're used to in college sports that people still
yet people are still are still having a tough time.
I think realizing that this is now a job to
these guys, and they're gonna treat this job the way

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you treat your job. It's cool until I can go
somewhere else and make more money and do what's best
for me so that you don't have to like it.
And if you're still bothered by it and it just
feels gross, then like I get it. But this is
not changing. And Colin Lacey, I'm happy that he got
a lot of support from the staff, you know, and

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from I understand. There were some pretty tough conversations because
I think Jeff understood it, but he didn't. He didn't
like it, but he also was willing to adapt and
willing to understand that there's nothing I can do about this.
We're not going backwards. Any resistance here is gonna only
results in a negative result potentially, So just realize it

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is what it is and figure out the best way
you can succeed in this new world. So I think
there are a lot of coaches that would have not
taken Colin Lacey's decision the way Jeff Brohm did. And again,
he wasn't happy, trust me, he wouldn't. He didn't like it
at all, But he did enough to salvage this situation
and maintained a good relationship with Colin and he decided

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to use Louisville or decided to state Louisville for his
final year, and that's huge. So I know there are
other coaches that have done a pretty good job of
navigating this new world of college football, really college sports,
when it comes to knowing that you got to reload
every year and you're gonna lose players. So instead of
sulking about it, just go out there and try to
find somebody that can help replace that player. I know

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he's not the only one, but he's got to be
up there as far as the two years he's been
at low to where he has shown he is adapting
better than a lot of those coaches. And let me
see here, let me just give you a quick update.
So just some names that you'll probably be familiar with.
There's a lot of guys that are entering the portal
that have announced it today that I wouldn't be shocked
if a lot of you don't know who they are

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because they didn't they didn't play a whole lot. But
we've got let's see, let's see. Let me let me
pull up the updated list here. Jalil Skinner. He is
the tight end new transfer from Miami. He was a
four star recruit but didn't didn't play a lot. There's
a reason you probably don't know a lot about him
because he didn't. He was not a guy that was
prominently featured as a tight end this year. So he's

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hit hitting the portal and it makes sense. Jimmy Jimmy Callaway. Uh,
he's a receiver that I believe. I mean, he was
what you got hurt earlier this year, I think he is.
But either way, at receiver, you know you've you've got
some young guys that really emerged and some guy, I
mean Colin Lacey's going to be back Blue Hicks is
probably going to be a big factor in your offense

(24:59):
next season. And then at running back, you lost Donald
Cheney yesterday. We talked about that, and then Maurice Turner
announced today that he's going to transfer, and that makes
total sense. I mean, Maurice Turner a guy who's been
here a long time and never really was able to
kind of emerge as the is the lead ball carrier,
and now he had two true freshmen come in and honestly,
his injury was unfortunate for him, but it did leave

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it did lead to them having to rely on freshmen
a little bit more than they probably wanted to at
that position. And we found out that this team had
some really really good running backs in Duke Watson and
in Isaac Brown, some other names, Jalil McClain. He is
a wide receiver who has been here for I believe
a couple of years and really just could not couldn't

(25:40):
crack the depth chart and get a lot of reps.
Therefore he's deciding to transfer. Ben Perry, he's a two
year starter at linebacker for Louisville, and he's a guy
that you to me, I put him in the Huggins
Brews situation as far as last year. He's not somebody
that you're like wanting to leave. But if you really
consider it, like you get why he is, because you
know he's probably gonna get recruited over and or he's

(26:02):
probably gonna have a chance to have a bigger role elsewhere,
or maybe anil money could be, like he could be
a bigger nil get elsewhere because Louisville's going to prioritize
some other guys when it comes to NIL. So we'll
keep you updated. At least I'll try to keep you
update as best I can with the show. But I'm
sure your best bet as far as figuring out who's
leaving would be to just follow these guys on social

(26:22):
media because these next couple of weeks, it's gonna be
it's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be tough to keep
up with. But so far, again, I still feel like
you've been able to on the Louisville side, You've been
able to manage the roster to where you're losing guys
that you understand why they're leaving, and you're you've been
able to retain guys that you know, you know you

(26:43):
need to come back, and you got to make like
for example, Isaac Brown and Duke Watson, which, by the way,
if you guys missed a Duke Watson was on some
social media video I think he did. I think he
would joined somebody's live on Instagram or TikTok or something,
and I found sound like such a grandpa talking about
modern age social media that I just don't, you know,
I know what it is, but I'm certainly not tuning

(27:05):
in to see nineteen year old kids going live from
their dorm room. And I'm not even sure if that's
what he was doing, but that is where this news
surface from. He was on a video telling Louisville fans
to basically calm down and chill out and leave them
alone because he's not going anywhere, which is great, that's
what you want to hear. Isaac Brown hasn't done that,
And I don't think that these guys are They don't

(27:26):
owe anybody any kind of like statement on their situation.
Are they leaving or are they staying, because there's really
no reason to just assume they're going to leave. But like, again,
this is a new world. I don't know if we're
going to require these players to let us know that
they're comfortable and they're not going anywhere. But when you
have really good players and you know that at any
moment they could leave, and you know that they're probably

(27:48):
going to be influenced to leave by others, right, tampering's
going on. We know that. So it's like, I don't
think Isaac Brown owes us anything, but man, it would
be really nice if he did come out and say
something like, hey, everybody, chill, I'm not going anywhere. And
by the way, with those guys, when you're coming in
as a true freshman out out of high school, you're
getting in ale money. But the really big payday n

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NIL for college players is coming after they've proven what
they can do as college players other than a quarterback.
If you're a really good quarterback, you can go get
a crazy amount of money like that kid just did
who flipped from Lshue to Michigan. So I'm sure those
guys had some inn iil money to get them here,
meaning Duke Watson and Isaac Brown. But now they they're

(28:31):
gonna need a lot more and they're gonna have to
get it or they're probably gonna look to leave. And
I would too if I was them, because they've proven
that they're really good and they're gonna have a lot
of options. There's gonna be a lot of high bidders
if they hit the portal. There's probably already high bidders
right now when they're not in the portal, because again
we know tampering happens, So it'll be a you know,
probably a daily or an every other day kind of

(28:53):
check in here on this show as far as where
we just kind of do a reset and say, okay,
where are we, Who have we lost? Who's who? Who
do we think might leave? Who is so important to stay?
That kind of stuff. Who they were going after in
the portal, Like, for example, the quarterback who lit Louisville
up last year, Miller Moss from USC, he is in
the portal and apparently Louisville was one of four schools
that he's looking at and is going to try to visit.

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And he was a really I mean, he was in
he was since he was sensational against Louisville last year,
and this year he got off to a decent start,
but then he got benched, and I don't really I mean,
his numbers weren't great. Like Jeff Brohm trusts him and
he thinks he's good enough, then that's good enough for me.
I trust Jeff when it comes to that. But I
do think some Louisville fans are just looking at how
he carved up that Louisville defense last year and not

(29:38):
realizing that USC was very underwhelming this year and he
got benched at quarterback and oh, by the way, he
played for one of the best offensive mines in the
country in Lincoln Riley and could not succeed. So I
don't know. I mean, I trust Jeff, but I would
I would. I would hope that he's looking at other
options as well. But again, he knows more than I do.

(29:58):
And there were a lot of people that were kind
of action their head about Tyler Shuck when there were
a lot of other big names out there like Dju
and Uh. I mean, there were a lot of quarterbacks
that ended up getting a lot of money to transfer,
and there was a lot of hype surrounding them. And
they were just whatever. I mean, they weren't really special
in any way. And I don't know if you would
say Tyler Shuck was special, but I would say that

(30:21):
was a pretty good investment. I don't even know what
they paid, but I know it wasn't close to what
other quarterbacks were getting elsewhere. All Right, So the college
football playoff rankings come out tonight, the updated ones, before
we get to the conference championships this weekend. And I
just wanted to reference this really quickly here because when
it comes to coaches that are out there lobbying to

(30:41):
get in, trying to make their case, I'm not surprised
at all, and I get it, like I would probably
do the same thing, but it's just become so annoying.
And let me tell you this. The second someone says
a coach, by the way, says, you can't tell me,
like you can't tell tell me we're not one of
the twelve best teams in the country. You can't tell

(31:03):
me that this league is not the best league in
the country. You can't tell me. By saying you can't
tell me, you're admitting that you don't have the results needed.
You're admitting that they need to just rely on benefit
of the doubt and not real results. You can't tell
me that the SEC doesn't deserve four teams, and you

(31:28):
can't tell me that we're not one of the best
teams in the country despite having three losses. That's what
Shane Biemer in South Carolina said, And again I don't
blame him, but that you can't tell me is such
a tell that you actually don't have the credentials that
that are needed. And I know you can be twelve
and three or nine and three in the SEC, and
it's probably not the same as an eleven and one

(31:50):
Indiana and the Big ten, but at the end of
the day, results matter, and you didn't get the results needed.
You left open an opportunity for people to doubt if
you are truly good enough to be there and you
didn't win enough. So I mean, like, for example, Florida State,
You're like, Florida State probably would have been gosh of

(32:14):
the five teams before the season started. That ever, if
you if you had to pick five teams that you
felt totally confident we're gonna be in the twelve team playoff,
Florida State would have been mentioned, I think by everybody yeah,
because everybody, everybody would have said they were going to
run the ACC again, Right, you can't tell me Florida
State's not going to be in the playoff. Florida State
was one of the worst teams in the country this year.

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So if we go off of well, you can't tell me.
You got to just you know, assume why even play games,
why even have a season, Like results have to matter.
And I'm not saying that that means that, you know,
Indiana being eleven and one that they're they're automatically good
enough to be there, but like it is what it is, like,
you know, in Indiana getting there and losing in the

(32:56):
first game, if that was to happen, wouldn't mean that
you belonged South Carolina. It wouldn't. And I just I
don't think it's ever gonna change because the SEC lives
in its own world, and yes, they are the best league.
I don't think many would really argue that, but they
just assume that they're like and it's so evident, like
Georgia should have lost to Georgia Tech, like that was

(33:17):
not an impressive showing from Georgia at all. But you know, man,
the SEC, what are you gonna do. No, you didn't
actually know. You didn't play an SEC steam you played
an ACC team. I mean, this is, this is and
I'm gonna try to make sure I get this correct
because this is not somebody that I rarely referenced. This
person on the show. I think it might be Mark Packer. Yeah,

(33:38):
Mark Packer, who is on He's part of the ACC
Network coverage. I thought he did a phenomenal job here
at really just putting, I mean, just just highlighting the
hypocrisy and the inconsistency from those on the SEC, including
Paul Finbaum.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
I've already seen narrative. In fact, I'm gonna go off
on something right now. Yesterday, I'm sitting upstairs. I'm always
working on the day aheads, I'm already working on tomorrow's show.
But yesterday, I'm working on Monday show and I go
to ESPN dot comicch I always do, and the first
thing I see is Paul finebaumb ragging the University of Miami,

(34:15):
saying they're frauds. Now again, everybody's in town of their opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Let me just say something.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I did not hear the same vitriol a week earlier
from the same talking heads when Alabama, as a two
touchdown favorite, went out to play very average Oklahoma and
got destroyed. Didn't hear that, But I heard it with
Miami losing to a nine to three team on the

(34:44):
road who should be ranked. I did hear that, which
is ridiculous. No, nothing about being a fraud. This is
not Lane Kiffin, after being out coached and losing at
the Swamp, running his mouth saying about, well if somebody
from the ACC is the Big twelve of the play right, Well,
there was a team from the ACC, Lane that actually

(35:05):
played the team that you just lost to. Their name is,
let me get was Miami. They went to the Swamp,
they destroyed Florida.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
In fact, it was.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Such an ugly game most of America turned it off
in the third quarter because they were up by four touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So I keep.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Hearing the narrative, especially about Miami. Forget about SMU. They're
a college football playoff team.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
So there's more to that. But like, nobody's out here
claiming that the ACC or the Big Ten or the
Big twelve is superior. But there's just the narrative about
the I mean, it's just like there's actually evidence that
shows you that actually no, there is a data point
here that would actually give real reason to doubt that
you deserve the benefit of the doubt. Well, what are
you gonna do. It's just a bunch of SEC teams?

(35:50):
Is if these other teams played in our league. Well, actually,
there's some teams that are in other leagues that went
and played your almighty SEC teams and they beat them.
Like you know, it's it's doesn't mean the SEC is
not great, doesn't mean that it's not the best league.
But they want to live in an alternate world to
where they just get a benefit of the doubt that
isn't deserved. And again there's evidence that shows they're not

(36:11):
worthy of it. All right, quick, bick, we'll come back
on the other side and wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on
Sports Talk seven nine.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Dy. We have very little time left here before we
wrap it up and get out of here, but big
thanks to all of you who tuned in today. I
hope you enjoyed yourself. If not, I would say that's
maybe a you problem, and you should just come back
tomorrow and try again.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's definitely a you problem.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, I think so too. But you know we can
work on it. We'll work together to where you just
you know, you become a loyal listener and a big
fan of the show. And again, if it doesn't work out,
it's more you than it is us, I choose to believe.
But we'll have the podcast up for those that missed
anything on today's show. And again a late night tonight,
nine o'clock tip my man go into the game tonight

(36:56):
like you go.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Are you bringing the energy? I'm absolutely bringing it back
to the young It's been a while. Like I was
telling you, last time I went there was when we
blew like a twenty twenty five point lead to the
Duke and Zion Williamson twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I think it's a couple of different ways to look
at that. Either this is a bad sign for tonight
or or we've had really bad stretches of basketball, Like
maybe you not being there for so long has led
to us kind of falling a little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I'm one in three in attending Louisville basketball games again,
not making me feel great, But you know, we brought
that up.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna get that streak or
get that record looking a little better after tonight. I
hope they can pull it out. But it'll be a
tough game, no doubt. But enjoy yourself, be safe, Thank you,
sure loud, bring the vibes, and hopefully when we're back
here tomorrow, we're talking about a big Louisville win, right.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Sure thing, Oh we will. I'll put me in at
the four.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I'd love to see it. That'd be good stuff. All right,
we're out here. Take care of everybody, Have a good night.
Talk tomorrow