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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Another game day, another beautiful day. Well, I keep saying that,
And even if the weather has gotten bad already, it's
still beautiful to me because today is we're both local
fan bases around here. Louisvill fans Andi Kentucky fans are
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or riding a high from last night, how their teams
won nearly lost, of course, but found a way to win,
and sometimes just not only enjoying the feeling that you
get from this, but just thinking about how bad I mean,
you wouldn't have just been able to like have any
other day, right if things go the different direction which
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you look like they were going last night with both
teams about to choke it, I mean, Louisville came all
the way back and then let an eight point lead
disappear quickly. Kentucky quite literally gave the game away until
they were able to get a game game winning shot
from Oway, just like Louisville did with Chucky So I mean,
just think about how much different today is if those
these things don't happen. Chucky Heburn doesn't get to put
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back as time expires, and Oway doesn't go coast to
coast to get his second game winner against his former
team in the same season, which is just a crazy
thing to say. So it is beautiful around here, regardless
of what the weather may look like, but it does
sound like it's gonna get nasty this weekend, that's for sure.
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you wrong at all, all right, So just to get
you caught up on all the games going on right now,
and of course games that have already concluded. Auburn got
a scare from All Miss but did survive, so they'll
move on to the semi finals tomorrow. Michigan State got
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a big win against Oregon. Michigan State looks insanely good
right now. I don't know what they'll do in the
tournament because you kind of never know when it comes
to the Big Ten. The Big Ten for a long
time now has had really, really really good teams, a
really good league. I mean, sometimes it's been better than
other years, but I mean, them not winning a national
championship in twenty five years is an insane thing to
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think about when you consider that they're still viewed as
annually one of the top two leagues in college basketball
every year. I mean, and yet they know they usually
don't go deep in March, and they have had some
teams get all the way to the championship game only
to you know, to lose. Also looks like it's final
between Memphis and Wichita State. That was a close game
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and that one has probably not won anybody around here
cares about. However, had Michigan lost and Whichita State continue
to move forward, they could have been a potential bidstealer.
And that's with the bubble being what it is is
you know, bit stealing is is gonna somebody's gonna steal
a bit, I think, and it's gonna break some hearts
for bubble teams that'll that'll miss out on the tournament
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because of that. All right, currently we've got some games
in action. UCLA is getting their ass kicked by Wisconsin.
I looked up at the screen, saw that the score
was sixty to forty it's sixty to forty three now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But just a two things that I looked at.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The first thing I saw when I turned on this,
when I looked up to see UCLA Wisconsin on my screen,
was Mick Cronin smiling and laughing, but his team's getting killed.
I don't know if he was doing it sarcastically, you know,
going after a rap or what it was. But also
I looked at the Yukon game, and sure enough, first
thing I saw Dan Hurley screaming.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like a lunatic.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I think that's kind of just, you know, sounds
about right. And I'm not even sure if they're playing
right now, but it was the first they were either
they were showing a Yukon game. That's that's coming up, lay,
That's what it was. They were showing a Yukon it
was Yukon Creighton preview. But when you're looking for b
roll to put up there of Dan Hurley, you know,
just some footage to have playing on the screen while
you're discussing the matchup in his Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The majority of what you're gonna see is.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Probably him screaming at referees or losing his mind like
a lunatic, because you know, that's kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What he does.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Or Mick Cronan just looking like a main Yeah, like
Cronin smiling threw me off, but it was probably like
an evil smile because he's he seems like a real
miserable human being.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He's the only one that cares. He's I mean, they'll
get in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They're twenty two and nine, but like I'm telling you,
this team UCLA probably losing in the first round in
close fashion that would put them at twenty two and
ten when it's all said and done, probably get like
an eight seed, lose to him and nine. That is
quite literally what Mick Cronin.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Is as a head coach.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, he's gonna get twenty wins, but he's likely going
to never get over the hump, be good enough to
you know, not be viewed as a terrible coach, and
then you'll he'll have an occasional season where he's got
a really real good regular season to where he gets
a decent seed and then they'll end up, you know,
bowing out early.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I mean, anyways, we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
We don't need to give Mick Cronin any more of
our time today, all right, So a job has become open.
Iowa has decided to fire freand McCaffrey, which is no
real surprise given that things run its course there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So here's what is interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yesterday, Indiana it was reported that they have I don't know,
and you never know what to believe when it comes
to the coaching searches, but it would make total sense
if Indiana is interested in Ben McCollum because I don't
know how, I mean, Drake had to know if this
guy is what we think he is, like, we won't
have him long because we're the first school that's going
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to take a chance on going and getting a guy
from the D two level who's been dominant and seeing
if he can bring it over to the D one level.
And clearly he did that and was phenomenal this year
in his first season at Drake, and it will likely
be his last season because Indiana, I mean that would
be a no brainer job for Ben McCollum.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, and I think he would do well wherever
he goes. I do.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just think he, to me, is is the kind
of coach that more than ever deserves the opportunity to
coach a high level program Because you don't need to
have some of the credentials that you used to have
to really not only get those big jobs, but thrive
in those big jobs. You now it can you know,
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transactional situations can help you if you could, if you
got money to go get players. This guy's proven he
can get people to believe in him, he can get
people to buy in. He's done it. He has a
formula that's worked. It worked at an insane level at
the D two level, and so far, so good at Drake.
So again, I guess there's always a chance it doesn't
work out. You never know, But I just think Ben
McCollum is the kind of guy that that you know,
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has proven he can win. And you know, things that
used to deter you from going after a guy like that,
I just don't think are as big of a factor anymore.
So Indiana would be a no brainer, But now Iowa
is open and I did not realize he's an Iowa guy,
like he's I mean, I mean makes I mean, I
knew he was from Iowa, but it sounds as if
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like he's I mean, he's when he when he thinks
of college basketball as a fan, not a coach. He
thinks of the of the Iowa Hawkeys. He's from Iowa City,
did not play there, and from from what I can tell,
he's never spent any time as a staff or anything
like that. But if Home calls, meaning Iowa and offers
him the job, I mean, I don't know what he
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would do. Who knows, but Indiana not being able to
get their coach because he wants to go to Iowa
would kind of just be Indiana's luck, right like, because
Indiana just it seems like since Bob Knight, you know,
like they've really been irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And I've defended Indiana for for.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Years now as far as yeah, they are clearly in
the has been category, but they still have everything you
would need to have to win and win at a
high level. They just can't get the coach thing.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So, now, if in fact, if in fact he doesn't
take Indiana arms, if he doesn't go home to Iowa
and McCallum doesn't up in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A name to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
For Iowa would would be a guy that also would
be coming there after just one season at his previous school. So, uh,
Davy's Devrees. I always get it, always get it confused.
It's but it's it's the guy who was at Drake
who left Drake to go to West Virginia, which led
to Ben McCallum going to.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Drake Freeze, right, yeah, I think it's Degrees. Yeah. Devrai
is like.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
The uh that college that came on that with the
commercials at like eleven o'clock on, like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yep n they would just insult you for so what
are you doing? Sit on the couch, Why don't you
do anything? But you get him off your ask you
go go go get a career.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There's that guy on the guy on the bridge in
the little over section, just telling you how much a
piece of crap you are.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Get off the couch and go, you know, go find
some motivation and come and roll at Devrai. Yeah, there's
there's the plug. But anyways, Darien Darien Devrees is the
is the head coach at West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Was there one year, and he's also in Iowa.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Guy, So if they want to keep it, you know,
if they want to keep the Iowa can go, and
they could get two good coaches out of those two.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But you just got to think about the dominoes here.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So if in fact he did leave West Virginia, that
would mean West Virginia's job would be open after just
one season with him there. And that's a good job too,
And I think they did a good job in hiring him,
But you know, I doubt they probably thought they'd lose
they potentially lose him, you know, to Iowa just one
year in. But again there's a domino effect when it
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comes to these kind of moves. Also, I don't know
if I mean, I feel like the reporting out there
from those that cover in C State as well as
those that cover college basketball nationally, despite there being some
pushback early on or maybe just no interest internally, North
Carolina State has either changed their mind themselves, or what
it sounds like is the money people, the people who
you know you need to give a lot of money,
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right because you've never needed money more than ever, because
you're not going to start having to pay twenty million
dollars annually to share revenue with athletes. So the money folks,
you know, they matter, and they wanted n C State's
administration to know we want Will Wade, and Will Wade
I guess has already met with him once and it's
going to meet with him again either today or tomorrow,
and maybe they have it finalized. But I mean, if
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I'm to go back to Drake, Drake had to know
if they if the guy they hired was who they
thought he was, they weren't going to have him long.
So to be fair, you know, they had to realize
it was worth doing it. We had another good year,
but we're gonna have to go find another coach. Same thing,
you know, I think could be said about McNee State.
You know, they knew they were willing to their McNeese State.
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They're willing to take a pr hit and hire Will Wade.
He's a damn good coach, and now they can't be
surprised as they entered the tournament for the second consecutive year.
There's clearly a distraction where he may have a new
employer by the time you guys played in the postseason.
So again, you want to be able to win when
you get there and I'm sure he'll still coach them,
but it wouldn't be a shocker if like they've got
a done deal, he's gonna coach. He's gonna coach McNeese
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and as soon as it's over, they announced him as
the NC State head coach. Which, again, if those are
the hires that they play out, or if that's one
of the hires that has made in the ACC, I mean,
will Wade anywhere in the AEC is gonna be good
for the AEC. In my opinion, I think it would
have made more sense for him to go to Miami,
but n C State's also a place that he could
he could have success at all. Right, again, it's Coffee
and Company. We are feel about. Thorton's here on Sports
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Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us last night.
I mean, what a night, What a reminder as far
as you know what this thing can do to you
on both sides of the spectrum. We were reborn essentially,
you know, came back from the dead, brought back to life,
however you want to phrase it. That's what this team
this season did for us, and that led to us,
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you know, being super excited yesterday, just to get the
postseason started with some real belief and some you know,
justified confidence in your team.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And then you know, they come out and they were really, really,
really bad.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean that's probably an exaggeration, but they just so
they just weren't themselves. And that's the one thing I
never felt like we had to worry about. But what
I believe is that, you know, it's a reminder that
they're human. I don't think they came out there legitimately scared.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
There was just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Of complacency that we don't typically see, not as much urgency,
and once they got down, it was kind of like
they were a little bit in shock that that it
was happening.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They couldn't ever really get any offensive rhythm at all.
They had a lot of unforced turnovers. Stanford, you know,
couldn't buy a bucket early if you remember. And then
they got hot, right Like I just kept thinking, you know,
Louisville hasn't really established any offensive rhythm in the first
thirty minutes or so first twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I should say.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And Stanford they're not great, but they're starting to make shots,
they're starting to get confidence. One team started, you know,
one team stayed in one spot, whereas Stanford started to
kind of slowly get more comfortable, make shots and really
have some confidence. And then you know, Louisville showed us
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that they're a resilient group that's tough. And I don't
want to say this will be like an all time game.
You remember, you'll probably remember Chucky's buzzer beater because it's
been a while since we had one of those in March,
and man, it was awesome. But the game, you know,
I when it felt as if, Okay, there's still a
lot of time left, but some's got to give. This
team has not been themselves, like there's not as much urgency.
Stanford deserves credit for making shots and also doing a
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good job it really, you know, kind of daring certain
guys to do things that's outside of their game, right,
Like they took James Scott away from the rim for
a good chunk of the game. When he's not near
the rim, he's a liability for you offensively, and that's
what they want, right. You know, they were they were
clearly having a tough time containing Terrence Edwards, but they
did a pretty good job at defending the pick and
roll with Chucky. They did a pretty good job, and
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Javon Hadley I just think was kind of a non factor.
So my worry wasn't just because of the deficit and
you know it being the second half. It was just
because unless something changes drastically, like this is not gonna
go well. And then sure enough it did. There's the
time out, the first time I can remember a timeout
like that being needed where you had to call time
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was gonna get away from you. I mean it kind
of already did. You were down fifteen, and these guys
just collectively, I mean clearly it was a collective effort,
but it was Chucky Hepburn who said, look, we're not
losing this game, and you know what, he was right.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They didn't. And we'll see. Louisville's a beatable team. We
know that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
We've been reminded of that all year, even throughout the wins.
We know this team, like anybody, could slip up.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It happens.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But there just seems to be some magic with the
one and only Chucky Hepburn, as far as he's not
gonna let us lose. I mean, Louisville is not favorite Tonight,
they're expected to lose when it comes to that kind
of thing, pointspread and whatnot. But I'm sure these guys
don't approach it that way. And just you know, not
to get sentimental here, but like just being able to
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call my dad and talk about last night's game and
tonight's game, and you know, it's just a reminder I
was a lot younger whenever the last time I was
in that position where you know, my dad who you know,
it's basically his religion Louisville Baskets, all Louisville Cardinals, and
that's you know, rubbed off on me. That's you know,
it's it's basically been a huge part of my life forever,
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and I don't ever see that changing. But the last
time we were talking March, talking about a team and
the potential path and that kind of stuff. I mean,
I felt like I was a little kid. I mean
a little one. Been in the second weekend in ten years, folks.
So you know, last night I called him. He turned
it off because you know, not like he was done
with the team, but you know, like just trying to,
you know, take a little break from it and maybe
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you come back in five minutes and see if the
score is better, and sure enough, my partner in crime, Austin,
we're texting and things are going poorly and he takes
a walk, tells me he's gonna go walk.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
His dog had to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So the two that I'm reaching out to during the
game because I'm panicking, you know, they were kind of
you know, doing some reverse reverse mojo or something, right,
like my dad was just gonna turn it away, you know,
thinking maybe he's the problem. Austin, same thing, just going
on a walk to you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
See if if he can.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Ride some old mojo where the last time you went
on a walk when things were bad, it was the
miracle on Main we beat Marquette. That's right, That's what
he tells me. So you know, well, I'm I'm a mess.
I mean, I said this last night, Joe.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like I just left you on an island.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Though at that point, well, I was by myself at
home because my wife was out with the kids moose
baseball practice, t ball practice, and he couldn't take it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So so I'm I mean, I'm at home.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm a madman, and I'm thinking to myself, if you know,
we can always find a silver lining. I found one
here because I'm so glad my children are not at home,
my young, innocent, sweet children, and they're not here to
see their father behave like this during a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So you know, I'm I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And then sure enough they start rolling, they make a
big run, and then the dramatic ending where they let
the eight point lead slip only to then get the
buzzer beater from Chucky. It was just it was a
reminder that it's just different this time of year. But anyways,
I was I was talking to my dad earlier and
he said something that you know, he's my dad, He's
the guy who you know, I've listened to him talk
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more Louisville than I've listened to anybody in my life,
because you know, before I, you know, became obsessed with
it and you know, became an adult, I would just
probably annoy the hell out of him asking them about
teams that played in the eighties that I didn't get
a chance to see. You know, all my knowledge of
lois of basketball, especially the knowledge of the eras that
I wasn't alive for, is all for him. So he
said today, and I'm just gonna I don't even if
it's true, but I'm I'm gonna believe in the power
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of positivity that last night, having that emotional roller coaster
right like you're getting killed, it's not. I mean, you're
you're in a way you haven't been really at all
this year, especially since January started, And then you dig deep,
you find some resilience, chucky kind of willing this team back,
everybody playing the role, and then you know, you give
up the lead only to then get the buzzer beater.
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So again, anything could happened to night. But I do
think there's something to be said that those nerves, if
you want to call it that, maybe you know, just
being a little anxious because they're humans. They know this
is March, this is the postseason, this is different, This
isn't you know, this is different. But hopefully that I mean,
I don't know how they wouldn't have been able to
get that out of the system after last night, because
I mean last night, I mean it was imagine. I
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mean again, I can't imagine. You know, clearly it's different
than being a fan and a player, but like they
would probably even though they appreciate our support and clearly
they have shown that throughout the year. I think these
guys really appreciate level basketball, and I think they've really
embraced being the group, being the team that has got
us back on track. And they've surely seen us throughout
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the year getting more and more back into it, and
you know, the revival is a real thing.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So again, I know they appreciate us.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But if they knew what this did to us, like
they if they saw what kind of humans we become,
how we behave And I don't mean like we're outbreaking
the law, but like I'm a version of myself that
I don't know whenever things are playing out like last
night on both sides, the good and the bad. So
we're crazy about it around here, and it's I think
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we've always known that, but man, last night was a
real reminder what this stuff can do to you. All right,
quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along
the bubble. Let's talk about it on the other side,
because there are clearly an identified like five six teams
that are fighting for the last spots and it's gonna
them down to the committee and none of us know
what they're going to do. But I do think there's
a couple of teams that you can pinpoint two things
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on their resume that make it to where one team
should be in the dance, whereas the others, I feel like,
if you do put them in, we're going to know
there's we're going to know the reason why. Right quick break,
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Speaker 2 (19:27):
So Texas is hanging with Tennessee, just a three point
game with a minute and a half left in the
first half. So Texas, look, they may play their way
in because and they may already have because obviously their
win against A and M was a valuable one and
Tennessee would be a monster win for them. So you know,
maybe they do get in. But when it comes to
the resumes right now, for teams that are on the bubble,
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this is a real good example of how it really
just comes down to the committee collectively deciding what they
want to prioritize most because a lot of these teams
on the bubble in the exact same spot. However, one's
to one team's strength as far as what makes them
worthy of consideration may be another bubble team's weakness and
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vice versa. Let me give you an example, Carolina and Texas.
You know, I'm looking at Lenardi's bracketology that came out
earlier today.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He put it out at noon today. He has both.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
North Carolina and Texas as the last four in. In fact,
Texas is the last team in right now, Carolina is
the third to last team in with Xavier in between there.
So right now, you know, if Leonardi was correct, who knows,
maybe he's wrong, both would be in, but not, you know,
not by much. Right like for example, maybe I can't
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think of anybody still playing that could you know, really
improve their situation. But anyways, with Carolina and Texas, the
net rankings very similar. Carolina is at thirty five, Texas
is thirty eight. When you look at their overall record,
Carolina has got more wins twenty two and twelve, nineteen
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and fourteen. If you look at the strength of schedule,
Carolina's strength of schedule is forty ninth's that's overall strength
of schedule. Texas is nineteenth. But let me let me
I think this is an important thing to point out,
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and it really just depends on how you you know,
you could take this whichever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Way you want.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The non conference strength of schedule, Carolina's is fifth. Carolina
played the fifth toughest non conference schedule in college basketball,
which again is why they're in this position where they're
even considered because they they didn't really lose. They have
one loss that is you know, that is that is
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deemed not good. It's in the Q three range. Texas
is non conference strength of schedule is two eighty five.
So Texas does have good wins against Kentucky, Missouri, A
and M twice.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Is that enough to bypass a team that is nineteen
and fourteen and has you know, has a losing record
in quad two games. So they're both the same. It
just depends on what you want to emphasize, which you
either want to punish somebody for or award them for.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I could make the case that, look, they're yeah, they're
one and eleven in quad one games, but eleven quad
one losses, I mean, that doesn't prove they're not good.
They're also eight to zero and Quad two games. So
you combine the Q one and Q two records, you've
got Carolina that is nine and eleven. You look at
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Quad two in Quad one buying for Texas seven and fourteen.
So again I would say momentum wise, Texas has probably
got the benefit of the doubt because of their league.
But to me, Texas wouldn't. The only argument to Protexas
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in is because of their conference. But look if they
beat Tennessee even I mean, and by the way, the
bubble is so bad, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm sure that both these teams are in.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Regardless of what happens moving forward, because you could put
Boise State in. Boise State's got a net of forty three.
They're twenty two and nine. Their strength to schedule is
substantially low in both non conference and in overall strength
to schedule. They're two and five in Quad one, five
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and two in Quad two, and they have one loss
in Quad three range and one loss in Quad four. Like,
if that's a team that's fighting for one of the
last spots, then I'd say Carolina and Tech are probably
in good shape because they're ahead of them. Xavior's a
bubble team. Xavior strength to schedule fifty eight, overall one
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fifty five in non conference, they're two and nine in
Quad one, seven and two in Quad two they're wins
of note, Marquette, Yukon Creighton solid wins. But you know,
I just think to me, that's a team that if
you know, if they're left out, you get it, and
if they get in, you would say, well, okay, the
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bubble must be pretty weak. That's and that's technically what
we're looking at. So Indiana, I mean, as of right now,
Lenardi has them as and again who knows, maybe Leonardi's wrong,
but that's all we can really reference because of course,
you know, well I guess there's other bracketology out there
that you can reference, but you know, it all comes
down to the committee as far as how they want
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to you know, how they want to choose to do it.
But I think both, you know, the two most talked
about bubble teams I think have been Texas and Carolina
in the last few days, and I'd say right now
both would probably be in because I just don't think
you would put teams like Boise, Colorado State, Indiana, Ohio
State ahead of them. So again, back to the quad
systems real quick here. This is not not to nerd
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out too much, but if there's ever a time to do.
It would be when we're just a couple of days
away from selection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I talked about this a little bit earlier, but you.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Know, your Quad one losses and your quad one wins,
even though you know there's a wide range and they
technically still fall in one of four categories, right Quad
one through Quad four, you know, the committee's going to
realize that they're not all They should realize that they're
not all created equally. So again, for Louisville, you would
absolutely hope that every loss you have can get to
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quad one and every win you have, or you know,
the decent wins you have can fall into quad one
as well. But right now West Virginia, of course, one
of Louisville's best wins, it is currently a quad one
victory victory as of right now, as of this moment, okay,
because they're sitting at fifty if they fall one one spot,
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which they were fifty one yesterday, so it was a
quad two win, so you added a quad one win overnight. Oklahoma,
they've maintained top forty or top fifty is they're at
forty four, So that's a loss obviously, but it doesn't
fall on the quad two as like a bad loss,
but again despite their not being a big difference from
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forty three to fifty one, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know, you want your numbers to.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Reflect that your losses are as good as possible and
your wins, you know, have as much value as possible.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
But again I just.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Think to worry about if the committee probably won't you
Louisville a whole lot differently, or make a big change
to their seed based off of you know, this team
meeting West Virginia finishing either forty seven or fifty one,
and then for Indiana, you know that's that's a win
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that that after yesterday is certainly not going to fall
in the quad one range, which I mean, you can't
control it, but it's just a bummer, you know. I
when it comes to Louisville's losses and wins, that you
needed to by the way, you want everybody you play
to do well because that's the best case scenario, right
If you beat them looks like a better win. If
they beat you, you're not judged as harshly. But the
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non conference teams for Louisville didn't do them a whole
lot of favors. I mean, really Oklahoma. I mean that
Oklahoma's barely Oklahoma, I think is very lucky to get
in the tournament. Indiana fell apart, they won't make the tournament.
It looks like West Virginia is gonna make it, but
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I thought that win would have a little more value
down the line. So anyways, at this point, I'm just
I'm not ready for it to end, because obviously You've
got a game night against Clemson, and we'll see if
they can win the night. Louisville and Duke tomorrow, I
would imagine, although maybe it's not Louislle Duke, maybe it's
maybe it's Louisville and in Carolina if Louisville wins, because
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Carolina is playing better. And you know, despite not you know,
not going up against top ten teams, you know, I
do believe they are. You know, they're probably not anywhere
close to what they should be as far as when
you look at their personnel and what their expectations were
this year. But I wouldn't be shocked if they could
find I mean, easier said than done. But if you
know Cooper Flag, by the way, he has been ruled
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out tonight, he's not going to play, so a Cooper
flagless Duke team against a Carolina team that's really hot.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Of course, the Carolina wins, all.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That will be said is that they shouldn't get as
much credit because they did it without flag. But again,
that won't matter to the I mean that won't matter
when it comes to the I mean that I think
Carolina is in regardless. But if they win the night,
even if they compete closely, that's probably going to help them.
Even though Cooper Flag's not going to play. And you know,
there's a part of me that can't decide, like do
I want Duke even though Flag's probably not going to play,
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because again, even without flag, that's still a monster potential
win if you could get it, although unlikely, it would
be huge if you could get it, and the opportunity
would be one that you should you should value. But
with Carolina, clearly they're a little I think they're more
beatable and if you eat them, I mean, hell, you
do get another valuable win. It's not a huge resume win,
but that would be a decent neutral site win against Carolina,
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another quad one for sure, and also you win the
ACC which is crazy, right, So if you play duke
and Duke get you, but you compete and you fall
shore but still climb up the rankings. I don't know, Like,
if I've got a chance in any way for Louisville
to freaking win the AEC Championship, I'm gonna take that.
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But I do think there could still be some real
value if that doesn't play out, because first and foremost,
you got to get past tonight. But once you do that,
you know, if it's Carolina, a loss of them wouldn't
be ideal, but it also wouldn't be something that probably
really hurts you on the seed line. But if you
play Duke, I mean, and you know, God God willing
you beat them, they'd be an insane thing to process.
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But also even playing them close could help you when
it comes to just the numbers. And also I believe
there's real value in playing a team that good before
you get to.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
The big dance.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And I know they're not going to be that good
without f I mean, they're still gonna be good, trust me,
But I mean, the best player on the planet according
to a lot of people, won't be playing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But still Duke has a lot of talent.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Konkinipple, I wouldn't be shocked if he goes all for
thirty tonight, I quick break will come back on the
other side.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
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us and ass kicking almost over here as Wisconsin is
up eighty six to sixty seven with just twenty seconds left.
As coming to an end in the Big Ten tournament
for Mick cronin po teams here of course, clearly in
the Big Dance, Tennessee three point lead over Texas at halftime.
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Clearly that would be a monstrous win for Texas. I
would imagine they're probably on the right side of the
bubble as of now, but a win there can have
them resting a little bit easier before selection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then those are the only games going on currently.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
A lot of games this evening, and I mean a
lot of them looking forward to making some bets, that's
for sure, but games that have already concluded, You've got
Oregon losing to Michigan State izzoh, they move on to
the semi finals of the Big Ten Tournament. Auburn competitive game,
low scoring. I mean, it was played where Chris Beard
wanted it to be played, low scoring, just beach up
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in the half court. But Auburn held on sixty two
to fifty seven. And then Memphis does hold on to
be wich TOAs State. They talked about this earlier, but
that game is not one that really anybody would care
about it unless you're a Memphis fan or a Wichita
State fan. But Memphis winning. Memphis to me is the
only league left. Memphis is the only team left in
a league where if they don't win it, there's gonna
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be a bitstealer because North Texas is the second place
team in that conference, but they're not. I mean, they'd
have to win the tournament to get in. So a
bubble team that's in now will not be in if
Memphis does not win the American Athletic Conference tournament, which
they probably will, they are easily the best team in
that league and it's not even close. And then elsewhere,
I mean, you look at other conference tournaments that haven't
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concluded just yet. The championship game of the MAC tonight.
Clearly that's a one bid league. Same thing for the
A ten, and I mean teams left alive Marquette, Saint
John's both tournament teams, Maryland Illinois, I mean even yeah,
I mean there's really not there's not a conference where
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you can you could have a bid stealer. I don't
think because in the A ten, I mean, the best
team in the A ten this year's VCU and are
they still alive? Yeah, they play. They play tomorrow against
Loyola Chicago. I guess they're they're tournaments a little bit later,
but anyways, Yeah, BCU losing their conference tournament would also
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be a potential bid stealing situation because teams like George
Mason and Dayton UH clearly in a better spot than
these other teams I'd mentioned, but they're not.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
They're not getting in.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
If they don't, they don't win their conference unless I'm
just not paying attention, like to me, Dayton, I mean,
Dayton is well, let's see Dayton's twenty two and nine,
So maybe they're better than I realized, but I'm not
seeing them on any Let's see. Yeah, Dayton currently sitting
with a Yeah, I mean they're they've got let's see Dayton. Yeah,
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there's no I mean, I gat I'm not searching the
whole bracket, but I think the two leagues that you
have to worry about a bidstealer. If the favorites don't win,
it's just the American and the A ten all. Let's
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you go to your doctor and you get a check
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felt a couple of different emotions, one like, damn, you
tell me my testosterone is, like, you know, probably lower
than my dad's. I mean, my testosterone levels were in
the range of somebody old enough to be my grandpa.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Probably not something I should just be openly talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
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So for over a year now, I've been on testosterone treatment,
keeping my level where they need to be for somebody
my age, and I mean I feel like I'm in
my twenties. I mean saying that makes it sound like
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I'm ancient, but I can tell you there's a difference
when it comes to how you feel when you're in
your twenties and in your thirties.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Everybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I would assume it's not as big of a difference
when you're twenty and you're sixty, right, But I feel
in the last year I've gotten younger, and it's because
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where they need to be change my life, not an exaggeration,
so they can change yours as well.
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Another game day, another beautiful day. Well, I keep saying that,
And even if the weather has gotten bad already, it's
still beautiful to me because today is we're both local
fan bases around here. Louisvill fans Andi Kentucky fans are
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or riding a high from last night, how their teams
won nearly lost, of course, but found a way to win,
and sometimes just not only enjoying the feeling that you
get from this, but just thinking about how bad I mean,
you wouldn't have just been able to like have any
other day, right if things go the different direction which
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you look like they were going last night with both
teams about to choke it, I mean, Louisville came all
the way back and then let an eight point lead
disappear quickly. Kentucky quite literally gave the game away until
they were able to get a game game winning shot
from Oway, just like Louisville did with Chucky So I mean,
just think about how much different today is if those
these things don't happen. Chucky Heburn doesn't get to put
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back as time expires, and Oway doesn't go coast to
coast to get his second game winner against his former
team in the same season, which is just a crazy
thing to say. So it is beautiful around here, regardless
of what the weather may look like, but it does
sound like it's gonna get nasty this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
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you wrong at all, all right, So just to get
you caught up on all the games going on right now,
and of course games that have already concluded. Auburn got
a scare from All Miss but did survive, so they'll
move on to the semi finals tomorrow. Michigan State got
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a big win against Oregon. Michigan State looks insanely good
right now. I don't know what they'll do in the
tournament because you kind of never know when it comes
to the Big Ten. The Big Ten for a long
time now has had really, really really good teams, a
really good league. I mean, sometimes it's been better than
other years, but I mean, them not winning a national
championship in twenty five years is an insane thing to
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think about when you consider that they're still viewed as
annually one of the top two leagues in college basketball
every year. I mean, and yet they know they usually
don't go deep in March, and they have had some
teams get all the way to the championship game only
to you know, to lose. Also looks like it's final
between Memphis and Wichita State. That was a close game
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and that one has probably not won anybody around here
cares about. However, had Michigan lost and Whichita State continue
to move forward, they could have been a potential bidstealer.
And that's with the bubble being what it is is
you know, bit stealing is is gonna somebody's gonna steal
a bit, I think, and it's gonna break some hearts
for bubble teams that'll that'll miss out on the tournament
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because of that. All right, currently we've got some games
in action. UCLA is getting their ass kicked by Wisconsin.
I looked up at the screen, saw that the score
was sixty to forty it's sixty to forty three now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But just a two things that I looked at.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The first thing I saw when I turned on this,
when I looked up to see UCLA Wisconsin on my screen,
was Mick Cronin smiling and laughing, but his team's getting killed.
I don't know if he was doing it sarcastically, you know,
going after a rap or what it was. But also
I looked at the Yukon game, and sure enough, first
thing I saw Dan Hurley screaming.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like a lunatic.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I think that's kind of just, you know, sounds
about right. And I'm not even sure if they're playing
right now, but it was the first they were either
they were showing a Yukon game. That's that's coming up, lay,
That's what it was. They were showing a Yukon it
was Yukon Creighton preview. But when you're looking for b
roll to put up there of Dan Hurley, you know,
just some footage to have playing on the screen while
you're discussing the matchup in his Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The majority of what you're gonna see is.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Probably him screaming at referees or losing his mind like
a lunatic, because you know, that's kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What he does.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Or Mick Cronan just looking like a main Yeah, like
Cronin smiling threw me off, but it was probably like
an evil smile because he's he seems like a real
miserable human being.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He's the only one that cares. He's I mean, they'll
get in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They're twenty two and nine, but like I'm telling you,
this team UCLA probably losing in the first round in
close fashion that would put them at twenty two and
ten when it's all said and done, probably get like
an eight seed, lose to him and nine. That is
quite literally what Mick Cronin.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Is as a head coach.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, he's gonna get twenty wins, but he's likely going
to never get over the hump, be good enough to
you know, not be viewed as a terrible coach, and
then you'll he'll have an occasional season where he's got
a really real good regular season to where he gets
a decent seed and then they'll end up, you know,
bowing out early.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I mean, anyways, we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
We don't need to give Mick Cronin any more of
our time today, all right, So a job has become open.
Iowa has decided to fire freand McCaffrey, which is no
real surprise given that things run its course there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So here's what is interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yesterday, Indiana it was reported that they have I don't know,
and you never know what to believe when it comes
to the coaching searches, but it would make total sense
if Indiana is interested in Ben McCollum because I don't
know how, I mean, Drake had to know if this
guy is what we think he is, like, we won't
have him long because we're the first school that's going
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to take a chance on going and getting a guy
from the D two level who's been dominant and seeing
if he can bring it over to the D one level.
And clearly he did that and was phenomenal this year
in his first season at Drake, and it will likely
be his last season because Indiana, I mean that would
be a no brainer job for Ben McCollum.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, and I think he would do well wherever
he goes. I do.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just think he, to me, is is the kind
of coach that more than ever deserves the opportunity to
coach a high level program Because you don't need to
have some of the credentials that you used to have
to really not only get those big jobs, but thrive
in those big jobs. You now it can you know,
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transactional situations can help you if you could, if you
got money to go get players. This guy's proven he
can get people to believe in him, he can get
people to buy in. He's done it. He has a
formula that's worked. It worked at an insane level at
the D two level, and so far, so good at Drake.
So again, I guess there's always a chance it doesn't
work out. You never know, But I just think Ben
McCollum is the kind of guy that that you know,
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has proven he can win. And you know, things that
used to deter you from going after a guy like that,
I just don't think are as big of a factor anymore.
So Indiana would be a no brainer, But now Iowa
is open and I did not realize he's an Iowa guy,
like he's I mean, I mean makes I mean, I
knew he was from Iowa, but it sounds as if
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like he's I mean, he's when he when he thinks
of college basketball as a fan, not a coach. He
thinks of the of the Iowa Hawkeys. He's from Iowa City,
did not play there, and from from what I can tell,
he's never spent any time as a staff or anything
like that. But if Home calls, meaning Iowa and offers
him the job, I mean, I don't know what he
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would do. Who knows, but Indiana not being able to
get their coach because he wants to go to Iowa
would kind of just be Indiana's luck, right like, because
Indiana just it seems like since Bob Knight, you know,
like they've really been irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And I've defended Indiana for for.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Years now as far as yeah, they are clearly in
the has been category, but they still have everything you
would need to have to win and win at a
high level. They just can't get the coach thing.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So, now, if in fact, if in fact he doesn't
take Indiana arms, if he doesn't go home to Iowa
and McCallum doesn't up in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A name to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
For Iowa would would be a guy that also would
be coming there after just one season at his previous school. So, uh,
Davy's Devrees. I always get it, always get it confused.
It's but it's it's the guy who was at Drake
who left Drake to go to West Virginia, which led
to Ben McCallum going to.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Drake Freeze, right, yeah, I think it's Degrees. Yeah. Devrai
is like.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
The uh that college that came on that with the
commercials at like eleven o'clock on, like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yep n they would just insult you for so what
are you doing? Sit on the couch, Why don't you
do anything? But you get him off your ask you
go go go get a career.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
There's that guy on the guy on the bridge in
the little over section, just telling you how much a
piece of crap you are.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Get off the couch and go, you know, go find
some motivation and come and roll at Devrai. Yeah, there's
there's the plug. But anyways, Darien Darien Devrees is the
is the head coach at West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Was there one year, and he's also in Iowa.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Guy, So if they want to keep it, you know,
if they want to keep the Iowa can go, and
they could get two good coaches out of those two.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But you just got to think about the dominoes here.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So if in fact he did leave West Virginia, that
would mean West Virginia's job would be open after just
one season with him there. And that's a good job too,
And I think they did a good job in hiring him,
But you know, I doubt they probably thought they'd lose
they potentially lose him, you know, to Iowa just one
year in. But again there's a domino effect when it
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comes to these kind of moves. Also, I don't know
if I mean, I feel like the reporting out there
from those that cover in C State as well as
those that cover college basketball nationally, despite there being some
pushback early on or maybe just no interest internally, North
Carolina State has either changed their mind themselves, or what
it sounds like is the money people, the people who
you know you need to give a lot of money,
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right because you've never needed money more than ever, because
you're not going to start having to pay twenty million
dollars annually to share revenue with athletes. So the money folks,
you know, they matter, and they wanted n C State's
administration to know we want Will Wade, and Will Wade
I guess has already met with him once and it's
going to meet with him again either today or tomorrow,
and maybe they have it finalized. But I mean, if
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I'm to go back to Drake, Drake had to know
if they if the guy they hired was who they
thought he was, they weren't going to have him long.
So to be fair, you know, they had to realize
it was worth doing it. We had another good year,
but we're gonna have to go find another coach. Same thing,
you know, I think could be said about McNee State.
You know, they knew they were willing to their McNeese State.
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They're willing to take a pr hit and hire Will Wade.
He's a damn good coach, and now they can't be
surprised as they entered the tournament for the second consecutive year.
There's clearly a distraction where he may have a new
employer by the time you guys played in the postseason.
So again, you want to be able to win when
you get there and I'm sure he'll still coach them,
but it wouldn't be a shocker if like they've got
a done deal, he's gonna coach. He's gonna coach McNeese
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and as soon as it's over, they announced him as
the NC State head coach. Which, again, if those are
the hires that they play out, or if that's one
of the hires that has made in the ACC, I mean,
will Wade anywhere in the AEC is gonna be good
for the AEC. In my opinion, I think it would
have made more sense for him to go to Miami,
but n C State's also a place that he could
he could have success at all. Right, again, it's Coffee
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Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us last night.
I mean, what a night, What a reminder as far
as you know what this thing can do to you
on both sides of the spectrum. We were reborn essentially,
you know, came back from the dead, brought back to life,
however you want to phrase it. That's what this team
this season did for us, and that led to us,
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you know, being super excited yesterday, just to get the
postseason started with some real belief and some you know,
justified confidence in your team.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And then you know, they come out and they were really, really,
really bad.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean that's probably an exaggeration, but they just so
they just weren't themselves. And that's the one thing I
never felt like we had to worry about. But what
I believe is that, you know, it's a reminder that
they're human. I don't think they came out there legitimately scared.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
There was just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Of complacency that we don't typically see, not as much urgency,
and once they got down, it was kind of like
they were a little bit in shock that that it
was happening.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They couldn't ever really get any offensive rhythm at all.
They had a lot of unforced turnovers. Stanford, you know,
couldn't buy a bucket early if you remember. And then
they got hot, right Like I just kept thinking, you know,
Louisville hasn't really established any offensive rhythm in the first
thirty minutes or so first twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I should say.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And Stanford they're not great, but they're starting to make shots,
they're starting to get confidence. One team started, you know,
one team stayed in one spot, whereas Stanford started to
kind of slowly get more comfortable, make shots and really
have some confidence. And then you know, Louisville showed us
(12:55):
that they're a resilient group that's tough. And I don't
want to say this will be like an all time game.
You remember, you'll probably remember Chucky's buzzer beater because it's
been a while since we had one of those in March,
and man, it was awesome. But the game, you know,
I when it felt as if, Okay, there's still a
lot of time left, but some's got to give. This
team has not been themselves, like there's not as much urgency.
Stanford deserves credit for making shots and also doing a
(13:18):
good job it really, you know, kind of daring certain
guys to do things that's outside of their game, right,
Like they took James Scott away from the rim for
a good chunk of the game. When he's not near
the rim, he's a liability for you offensively, and that's
what they want, right. You know, they were they were
clearly having a tough time containing Terrence Edwards, but they
did a pretty good job at defending the pick and
roll with Chucky. They did a pretty good job, and
(13:39):
Javon Hadley I just think was kind of a non factor.
So my worry wasn't just because of the deficit and
you know it being the second half. It was just
because unless something changes drastically, like this is not gonna
go well. And then sure enough it did. There's the
time out, the first time I can remember a timeout
like that being needed where you had to call time
(14:00):
was gonna get away from you. I mean it kind
of already did. You were down fifteen, and these guys
just collectively, I mean clearly it was a collective effort,
but it was Chucky Hepburn who said, look, we're not
losing this game, and you know what, he was right.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They didn't. And we'll see. Louisville's a beatable team. We
know that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
We've been reminded of that all year, even throughout the wins.
We know this team, like anybody, could slip up.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It happens.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But there just seems to be some magic with the
one and only Chucky Hepburn, as far as he's not
gonna let us lose. I mean, Louisville is not favorite Tonight,
they're expected to lose when it comes to that kind
of thing, pointspread and whatnot. But I'm sure these guys
don't approach it that way. And just you know, not
to get sentimental here, but like just being able to
(14:45):
call my dad and talk about last night's game and
tonight's game, and you know, it's just a reminder I
was a lot younger whenever the last time I was
in that position where you know, my dad who you know,
it's basically his religion Louisville Baskets, all Louisville Cardinals, and
that's you know, rubbed off on me. That's you know,
it's it's basically been a huge part of my life forever,
(15:06):
and I don't ever see that changing. But the last
time we were talking March, talking about a team and
the potential path and that kind of stuff. I mean,
I felt like I was a little kid. I mean
a little one. Been in the second weekend in ten years, folks.
So you know, last night I called him. He turned
it off because you know, not like he was done
with the team, but you know, like just trying to,
you know, take a little break from it and maybe
(15:26):
you come back in five minutes and see if the
score is better, and sure enough, my partner in crime, Austin,
we're texting and things are going poorly and he takes
a walk, tells me he's gonna go walk.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
His dog had to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So the two that I'm reaching out to during the
game because I'm panicking, you know, they were kind of
you know, doing some reverse reverse mojo or something, right,
like my dad was just gonna turn it away, you know,
thinking maybe he's the problem. Austin, same thing, just going
on a walk to you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
See if if he can.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Ride some old mojo where the last time you went
on a walk when things were bad, it was the
miracle on Main we beat Marquette. That's right, That's what
he tells me. So you know, well, I'm I'm a mess.
I mean, I said this last night, Joe.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like I just left you on an island.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Though at that point, well, I was by myself at
home because my wife was out with the kids moose
baseball practice, t ball practice, and he couldn't take it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
So so I'm I mean, I'm at home.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm a madman, and I'm thinking to myself, if you know,
we can always find a silver lining. I found one
here because I'm so glad my children are not at home,
my young, innocent, sweet children, and they're not here to
see their father behave like this during a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So you know, I'm I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And then sure enough they start rolling, they make a
big run, and then the dramatic ending where they let
the eight point lead slip only to then get the
buzzer beater from Chucky. It was just it was a
reminder that it's just different this time of year. But anyways,
I was I was talking to my dad earlier and
he said something that you know, he's my dad, He's
the guy who you know, I've listened to him talk
(16:52):
more Louisville than I've listened to anybody in my life,
because you know, before I, you know, became obsessed with
it and you know, became an adult, I would just
probably annoy the hell out of him asking them about
teams that played in the eighties that I didn't get
a chance to see. You know, all my knowledge of
lois of basketball, especially the knowledge of the eras that
I wasn't alive for, is all for him. So he
said today, and I'm just gonna I don't even if
it's true, but I'm I'm gonna believe in the power
(17:13):
of positivity that last night, having that emotional roller coaster
right like you're getting killed, it's not. I mean, you're
you're in a way you haven't been really at all
this year, especially since January started, And then you dig deep,
you find some resilience, chucky kind of willing this team back,
everybody playing the role, and then you know, you give
up the lead only to then get the buzzer beater.
(17:36):
So again, anything could happened to night. But I do
think there's something to be said that those nerves, if
you want to call it that, maybe you know, just
being a little anxious because they're humans. They know this
is March, this is the postseason, this is different, This
isn't you know, this is different. But hopefully that I mean,
I don't know how they wouldn't have been able to
get that out of the system after last night, because
I mean last night, I mean it was imagine. I
(17:56):
mean again, I can't imagine. You know, clearly it's different
than being a fan and a player, but like they
would probably even though they appreciate our support and clearly
they have shown that throughout the year. I think these
guys really appreciate level basketball, and I think they've really
embraced being the group, being the team that has got
us back on track. And they've surely seen us throughout
(18:18):
the year getting more and more back into it, and
you know, the revival is a real thing.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So again, I know they appreciate us.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But if they knew what this did to us, like
they if they saw what kind of humans we become,
how we behave And I don't mean like we're outbreaking
the law, but like I'm a version of myself that
I don't know whenever things are playing out like last
night on both sides, the good and the bad. So
we're crazy about it around here, and it's I think
(18:45):
we've always known that, but man, last night was a
real reminder what this stuff can do to you. All right,
quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along
the bubble. Let's talk about it on the other side,
because there are clearly an identified like five six teams
that are fighting for the last spots and it's gonna
them down to the committee and none of us know
what they're going to do. But I do think there's
a couple of teams that you can pinpoint two things
(19:05):
on their resume that make it to where one team
should be in the dance, whereas the others, I feel like,
if you do put them in, we're going to know
there's we're going to know the reason why. Right quick break,
it's Coffee and Company. We're feel about Thorntons right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
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Speaker 2 (19:27):
So Texas is hanging with Tennessee, just a three point
game with a minute and a half left in the
first half. So Texas, look, they may play their way
in because and they may already have because obviously their
win against A and M was a valuable one and
Tennessee would be a monster win for them. So you know,
maybe they do get in. But when it comes to
the resumes right now, for teams that are on the bubble,
(19:48):
this is a real good example of how it really
just comes down to the committee collectively deciding what they
want to prioritize most because a lot of these teams
on the bubble in the exact same spot. However, one's
to one team's strength as far as what makes them
worthy of consideration may be another bubble team's weakness and
(20:10):
vice versa. Let me give you an example, Carolina and Texas.
You know, I'm looking at Lenardi's bracketology that came out
earlier today.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He put it out at noon today. He has both.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
North Carolina and Texas as the last four in. In fact,
Texas is the last team in right now, Carolina is
the third to last team in with Xavier in between there.
So right now, you know, if Leonardi was correct, who knows,
maybe he's wrong, both would be in, but not, you know,
not by much. Right like for example, maybe I can't
(20:45):
think of anybody still playing that could you know, really
improve their situation. But anyways, with Carolina and Texas, the
net rankings very similar. Carolina is at thirty five, Texas
is thirty eight. When you look at their overall record,
Carolina has got more wins twenty two and twelve, nineteen
(21:08):
and fourteen. If you look at the strength of schedule,
Carolina's strength of schedule is forty ninth's that's overall strength
of schedule. Texas is nineteenth. But let me let me
I think this is an important thing to point out,
(21:28):
and it really just depends on how you you know,
you could take this whichever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Way you want.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The non conference strength of schedule, Carolina's is fifth. Carolina
played the fifth toughest non conference schedule in college basketball,
which again is why they're in this position where they're
even considered because they they didn't really lose. They have
one loss that is you know, that is that is
(21:52):
deemed not good. It's in the Q three range. Texas
is non conference strength of schedule is two eighty five.
So Texas does have good wins against Kentucky, Missouri, A
and M twice.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Is that enough to bypass a team that is nineteen
and fourteen and has you know, has a losing record
in quad two games. So they're both the same. It
just depends on what you want to emphasize, which you
either want to punish somebody for or award them for.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I could make the case that, look, they're yeah, they're
one and eleven in quad one games, but eleven quad
one losses, I mean, that doesn't prove they're not good.
They're also eight to zero and Quad two games. So
you combine the Q one and Q two records, you've
got Carolina that is nine and eleven. You look at
(22:58):
Quad two in Quad one buying for Texas seven and fourteen.
So again I would say momentum wise, Texas has probably
got the benefit of the doubt because of their league.
But to me, Texas wouldn't. The only argument to Protexas
(23:18):
in is because of their conference. But look if they
beat Tennessee even I mean, and by the way, the
bubble is so bad, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm sure that both these teams are in.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Regardless of what happens moving forward, because you could put
Boise State in. Boise State's got a net of forty three.
They're twenty two and nine. Their strength to schedule is
substantially low in both non conference and in overall strength
to schedule. They're two and five in Quad one, five
(23:48):
and two in Quad two, and they have one loss
in Quad three range and one loss in Quad four. Like,
if that's a team that's fighting for one of the
last spots, then I'd say Carolina and Tech are probably
in good shape because they're ahead of them. Xavior's a
bubble team. Xavior strength to schedule fifty eight, overall one
(24:08):
fifty five in non conference, they're two and nine in
Quad one, seven and two in Quad two they're wins
of note, Marquette, Yukon Creighton solid wins. But you know,
I just think to me, that's a team that if
you know, if they're left out, you get it, and
if they get in, you would say, well, okay, the
(24:28):
bubble must be pretty weak. That's and that's technically what
we're looking at. So Indiana, I mean, as of right now,
Lenardi has them as and again who knows, maybe Leonardi's wrong,
but that's all we can really reference because of course,
you know, well I guess there's other bracketology out there
that you can reference, but you know, it all comes
down to the committee as far as how they want
(24:50):
to you know, how they want to choose to do it.
But I think both, you know, the two most talked
about bubble teams I think have been Texas and Carolina
in the last few days, and I'd say right now
both would probably be in because I just don't think
you would put teams like Boise, Colorado State, Indiana, Ohio
State ahead of them. So again, back to the quad
systems real quick here. This is not not to nerd
(25:10):
out too much, but if there's ever a time to do.
It would be when we're just a couple of days
away from selection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I talked about this a little bit earlier, but you.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Know, your Quad one losses and your quad one wins,
even though you know there's a wide range and they
technically still fall in one of four categories, right Quad
one through Quad four, you know, the committee's going to
realize that they're not all They should realize that they're
not all created equally. So again, for Louisville, you would
absolutely hope that every loss you have can get to
(25:38):
quad one and every win you have, or you know,
the decent wins you have can fall into quad one
as well. But right now West Virginia, of course, one
of Louisville's best wins, it is currently a quad one
victory victory as of right now, as of this moment, okay,
because they're sitting at fifty if they fall one one spot,
(25:59):
which they were fifty one yesterday, so it was a
quad two win, so you added a quad one win overnight. Oklahoma,
they've maintained top forty or top fifty is they're at
forty four, So that's a loss obviously, but it doesn't
fall on the quad two as like a bad loss,
but again despite their not being a big difference from
(26:20):
forty three to fifty one, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know, you want your numbers to.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Reflect that your losses are as good as possible and
your wins, you know, have as much value as possible.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
But again I just.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Think to worry about if the committee probably won't you
Louisville a whole lot differently, or make a big change
to their seed based off of you know, this team
meeting West Virginia finishing either forty seven or fifty one,
and then for Indiana, you know that's that's a win
(26:51):
that that after yesterday is certainly not going to fall
in the quad one range, which I mean, you can't
control it, but it's just a bummer, you know. I
when it comes to Louisville's losses and wins, that you
needed to by the way, you want everybody you play
to do well because that's the best case scenario, right
If you beat them looks like a better win. If
they beat you, you're not judged as harshly. But the
(27:12):
non conference teams for Louisville didn't do them a whole
lot of favors. I mean, really Oklahoma. I mean that
Oklahoma's barely Oklahoma, I think is very lucky to get
in the tournament. Indiana fell apart, they won't make the tournament.
It looks like West Virginia is gonna make it, but
(27:32):
I thought that win would have a little more value
down the line. So anyways, at this point, I'm just
I'm not ready for it to end, because obviously You've
got a game night against Clemson, and we'll see if
they can win the night. Louisville and Duke tomorrow, I
would imagine, although maybe it's not Louislle Duke, maybe it's
maybe it's Louisville and in Carolina if Louisville wins, because
(27:53):
Carolina is playing better. And you know, despite not you know,
not going up against top ten teams, you know, I
do believe they are. You know, they're probably not anywhere
close to what they should be as far as when
you look at their personnel and what their expectations were
this year. But I wouldn't be shocked if they could
find I mean, easier said than done. But if you
know Cooper Flag, by the way, he has been ruled
(28:14):
out tonight, he's not going to play, so a Cooper
flagless Duke team against a Carolina team that's really hot.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Of course, the Carolina wins, all.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That will be said is that they shouldn't get as
much credit because they did it without flag. But again,
that won't matter to the I mean that won't matter
when it comes to the I mean that I think
Carolina is in regardless. But if they win the night,
even if they compete closely, that's probably going to help them.
Even though Cooper Flag's not going to play. And you know,
there's a part of me that can't decide, like do
I want Duke even though Flag's probably not going to play,
(28:44):
because again, even without flag, that's still a monster potential
win if you could get it, although unlikely, it would
be huge if you could get it, and the opportunity
would be one that you should you should value. But
with Carolina, clearly they're a little I think they're more
beatable and if you eat them, I mean, hell, you
do get another valuable win. It's not a huge resume win,
but that would be a decent neutral site win against Carolina,
(29:06):
another quad one for sure, and also you win the
ACC which is crazy, right, So if you play duke
and Duke get you, but you compete and you fall
shore but still climb up the rankings. I don't know, Like,
if I've got a chance in any way for Louisville
to freaking win the AEC Championship, I'm gonna take that.
(29:27):
But I do think there could still be some real
value if that doesn't play out, because first and foremost,
you got to get past tonight. But once you do that,
you know, if it's Carolina, a loss of them wouldn't
be ideal, but it also wouldn't be something that probably
really hurts you on the seed line. But if you
play Duke, I mean, and you know, God God willing
you beat them, they'd be an insane thing to process.
(29:47):
But also even playing them close could help you when
it comes to just the numbers. And also I believe
there's real value in playing a team that good before
you get to.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
The big dance.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And I know they're not going to be that good
without f I mean, they're still gonna be good, trust me,
But I mean, the best player on the planet according
to a lot of people, won't be playing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But still Duke has a lot of talent.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Konkinipple, I wouldn't be shocked if he goes all for
thirty tonight, I quick break will come back on the
other side.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's coffee and company, and we are field abou Thornton's
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Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's
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Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's right, we were wrapping up the four o'clock hour
here on a Friday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with
us and ass kicking almost over here as Wisconsin is
up eighty six to sixty seven with just twenty seconds left.
As coming to an end in the Big Ten tournament
for Mick cronin po teams here of course, clearly in
the Big Dance, Tennessee three point lead over Texas at halftime.
(30:44):
Clearly that would be a monstrous win for Texas. I
would imagine they're probably on the right side of the
bubble as of now, but a win there can have
them resting a little bit easier before selection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then those are the only games going on currently.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
A lot of games this evening, and I mean a
lot of them looking forward to making some bets, that's
for sure, but games that have already concluded, You've got
Oregon losing to Michigan State izzoh, they move on to
the semi finals of the Big Ten Tournament. Auburn competitive game,
low scoring. I mean, it was played where Chris Beard
wanted it to be played, low scoring, just beach up
(31:20):
in the half court. But Auburn held on sixty two
to fifty seven. And then Memphis does hold on to
be wich TOAs State. They talked about this earlier, but
that game is not one that really anybody would care
about it unless you're a Memphis fan or a Wichita
State fan. But Memphis winning. Memphis to me is the
only league left. Memphis is the only team left in
a league where if they don't win it, there's gonna
(31:42):
be a bitstealer because North Texas is the second place
team in that conference, but they're not. I mean, they'd
have to win the tournament to get in. So a
bubble team that's in now will not be in if
Memphis does not win the American Athletic Conference tournament, which
they probably will, they are easily the best team in
that league and it's not even close. And then elsewhere,
I mean, you look at other conference tournaments that haven't
(32:04):
concluded just yet. The championship game of the MAC tonight.
Clearly that's a one bid league. Same thing for the
A ten, and I mean teams left alive Marquette, Saint
John's both tournament teams, Maryland Illinois, I mean even yeah,
I mean there's really not there's not a conference where
(32:24):
you can you could have a bid stealer. I don't
think because in the A ten, I mean, the best
team in the A ten this year's VCU and are
they still alive? Yeah, they play. They play tomorrow against
Loyola Chicago. I guess they're they're tournaments a little bit later,
but anyways, Yeah, BCU losing their conference tournament would also
(32:48):
be a potential bid stealing situation because teams like George
Mason and Dayton UH clearly in a better spot than
these other teams I'd mentioned, but they're not.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
They're not getting in.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
If they don't, they don't win their conference unless I'm
just not paying attention, like to me, Dayton, I mean,
Dayton is well, let's see Dayton's twenty two and nine,
So maybe they're better than I realized, but I'm not
seeing them on any Let's see. Yeah, Dayton currently sitting
with a Yeah, I mean they're they've got let's see Dayton. Yeah,
(33:19):
there's no I mean, I gat I'm not searching the
whole bracket, but I think the two leagues that you
have to worry about a bidstealer. If the favorites don't win,
it's just the American and the A ten all. Let's
talk about the Louis of Men's Clinic, shall we? Fellas
telling you no better time than now to do something
about your health. And you may not even realize that
you have poor health, and it may not even really
be fair to say that it's poor health. But when
(33:41):
you go to your doctor and you get a check
up and they're you know, they're looking at your overall
health and they're running lab work, they're not going to
be alarmed by your testosterone levels. I mean, if they're
low enough for you to be in danger, then they
should tell you. But they're not worried about what levels
should be for a certain age because for whatever reason,
they just don't pay that they don't prioritize that they
(34:02):
should because you know, my levels were not alarming, but
there's certain levels for age, for your age that you
should be at mine were nowhere near where they needed
to be for somebody my age, and I'm sure it
was like that for a long time, and I just
assumed that that's life, and I'm getting older and it's
not about low t it's just about you know, being
thirty five instead of twenty three. And sure enough, I
(34:22):
felt a couple of different emotions, one like, damn, you
tell me my testosterone is, like, you know, probably lower
than my dad's. I mean, my testosterone levels were in
the range of somebody old enough to be my grandpa.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Probably not something I should just be openly talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But when it's common and you know, that feeling of
like damn, what happened instantly went away because I'm like,
this is awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
At least I know why I'm not getting the same
results of the gym. This is why I've, for reasons
I don't know, started to develop a little bit more
flab around the waistline man boobs, that kind of stuff.
So for over a year now, I've been on testosterone treatment,
keeping my level where they need to be for somebody
my age, and I mean I feel like I'm in
my twenties. I mean saying that makes it sound like
(35:07):
I'm ancient, but I can tell you there's a difference
when it comes to how you feel when you're in
your twenties and in your thirties.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Everybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I would assume it's not as big of a difference
when you're twenty and you're sixty, right, But I feel
in the last year I've gotten younger, and it's because
of me dealing, you know, me now having testosterone levels
where they need to be change my life, not an exaggeration,
so they can change yours as well.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You may not even realize it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
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