3.28: Kid Rocking Into Vacation - Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are get off our show.

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Speaker 2 (00:21):
They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Who's the kid here?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Who's the kid here?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, let's get it started. Happy Friday, welcome in.
I start this show and by the way, three hours
with me and then I'm out of here for a week.
So it's just a warning. Be advised. You will not
have me for a whole week. And I I mean,
if you haven't made arrangements, if you haven't figured out
how you're gonna deal with my absence, I would start
working on it now. And I hope you can you

(01:06):
can sense sarcasm. But anyways, it's a Friday. I'm feeling good,
but I'm a little panic. Because I've mentioned this before
on the show. I use the platform that is X
previously known as Twitter. I still call it Twitter. I
think we still reference what gets put on the platform
as a tweet. Therefore, I just think X is just
it's never really it just hasn't really clicked with me.

(01:28):
But anyways, it's a really big resource and tool for
me when it comes to this show because I hit
the like button, there's a little heart there, or I
direct message a tweet to myself, and like that's like,
really how I take notes. I mean, it's super useful.
I'm sure I'm not the only person with a platform
like this that uses X slash Twitter to you know,

(01:51):
I don't want to act like it does the show
for me, but really that's where like, that's where all
my notes are essentially, and then I just take a
lot of what that is and you know, run on
off of it. But the platform is down as we speak.
I thought maybe I got like banned or something. Maybe
I got I got kicked off. Maybe Elon Musk, you know,
maybe he wasn't a fan. I don't know, but my
mind's up. It looks like it's working again. Lisa desktop version, Okay, yeah,

(02:15):
it looks like we're back in business. But uh yeah,
there was that and then I couldn't get my my
my headphones untangled, so I'm scrambling.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Of course, all this happens before a vacation.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, on a Friday, and it's I mean, it is
beautiful outside. It I feel like we are violating protocol
in some way by not being outside right now a
little warm, I mean it is, and you you want
to hear something crazy? Currently right now at three oh
two in Louisville, Kentucky, it is warmer, nicer than it
will be at any point next week when I am

(02:48):
in Florida in uh Navarre Beach. So you know, that's
just kind of how it works out. Not great, but
you know, I'm gonna at least enjoy the great weather
we have today while I can, because it is seventy
nine degrees and four Street Live is popping right now.
I mean for a for a Friday at three, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
What a couple families. I didn't look out into the
actual district area, but.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, the restaurants that have like the outdoor seating, they're
full and you've got people kind of hang I've never
seen people hanging out at the tables that and sometimes
the tables aren't even out, but there's some tables that
sit right out in front of PBR. Yeah, and people
are sitting out there just doing some day drinking because
you know why, they're pre amy for Kid Rock tonight.

(03:31):
I didn't even know. You didn't really you forgot kid? Yes? Yeah,
So I mean all I can say is that four
Street tonight is gonna be is gonna be something. I mean,
PBR tonight is gonna be something because you might have
to go. I don't know about it, man ride the
Electric Bull, I mean doing like a vibe check. Like
post kid rock concerts, people are making their way to

(03:54):
the bars. That could be something, couldn't it? Absolutely because
it's it's intriguing.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
But here it's a good show. I'm not a huge
kid rock guy. Here it's a good show.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I don't have any feeling at all, like I don't
you know with kid Rock currently with like his I
mean I don't. Does he make new music?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I don't know. I think he's still relying on in
the old days. Actually, you know what, I don't hate Kate.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Rock in a way.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I will I will always have a not a soft spot.
But like kid Rock is when he blew up with
ball with the ball de bang to bang Diggy Diggy
when that became a thing. That was right around the
time when I was old enough to like buy my
own CDs. And one of the first CDs I bought
was kid Rock and his debut album, and I just

(04:36):
thought it was the coolest thing ever. I remember I'd
watched it on TRL. I mean I was twelve, I
think at the time. And I mean I'm not. I mean,
he has songs that I think will are to me.
They're you know, they're timeless, right, Like I guess it
is ball with the Ball his biggest hit. It's probably
not like mainstream wise, it has to be that. Or
he did a song with bad Yeah, a song with
Sheryl Crow. Sure, yeah, I mean that was kind of

(04:59):
you know whatever. But and that that led him to
probably entering the ears of people that typically wouldn't be
getting the kid Rock that we got when he debuted.
But yeah, his great song though his debut album, I
feel like it had a bunch. Maybe it's just because
it was one of the CDs I bought and I
listened to it, you know NonStop.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Felt that way with the Baja Boys or Baja men.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Really, right, I remember different eras you and I I.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Remember getting that CD just because I like the who
Let the Dogs Out? And I would just play that
all the time. But I think it was like the
last it was the last track on their CD. But
I think with the old uh uh, the older quarter
that I used to have wouldn't let you skip songs,
so you had to listen to like the whole CD.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Look, it could be. It could be because it's a Friday,
but I feel like, you know, we have a lot
of concerts to come to the Young Center Austin, you know,
because you times are a part of promotions for all that.
But Kid Rock, and I'm sure a lot of it
is because of his strong political stance, but like he'll
bring people out in a way that most people that
come to the YOUM Center. Oh yeah, well he just

(06:00):
will like he's got that. You know, showed a.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Video of Trump last time he was here, like two
years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I bet people went insane, Yeah they did. So anyways,
Kid rocks in town. We'll play some kid Rock today, right,
we have to. It's only fitting, of course they sent
some kid rock. So but I just know they're gonna
be lathered tonight. They're gonna be and when I say they,
I mean those in attendance, the spectators, and uh, I
just would love to be you know, I'll just say it.
It's always kind of like a a It's not nice

(06:27):
to say because it's almost as if like you're I mean,
you're making fun of people, but like it would be
people watching heaven, would it not. I mean, it would
just be it would be amazing. So again, if you're
going to kid Rock, enjoy yourself. I won't be there,
but uh, I'm sure that won't impact any of you guys.
You're gonna have fun, all right. So where do we
start today? I mean, we've got sweet sixteen games to
react to from last night. The under not hitting in

(06:49):
that Duke Arizona game just gutted me. I mean, man,
I was down bad because everything else just looked perfect.
I mean it was just playing out like, I mean,
the first two legs, you and I were going back
and forth, I mean, and it felt like, I mean,
this thing is setting up to where like we can
put on cruise control. Not to say we're gonna win it,
but like we weren't sweating the first two ye because clearly, I.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Mean even texted you how good it was looking I
thought I was talking about you. Yeah, I mean, which
I was too.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, both, you mean it both ways, right, so you
know anyways, and then you know the under I mean,
what was there five threes made in the first two
minutes of the Duke Arizona game like that alone. Let
you know, it was dead. I mean it was dead.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
They had like ninety at halfs and.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Then midway through or maybe like seventy five to eighty
percent through the first half, there was like brief hope
that like, okay, if they slowed down, if they stopped
hitting threes, and then they score a bunch late in
that three at the buzzer from flag. I mean, it
was it was, it was cooked. And then I never
took the col Arkansas money line straight bed just because

(07:48):
I didn't, you know, I just didn't. But even though
they lost, they still covered and you know, good action,
no doubt we got games tonight. We'll get to trust me,
that'll be a huge part of today's But I just
wanted to start by saying for all of those well,
you know, good for Cal. I mean, oh yeah, I
mean good for Cal. I'm happy for him. I mean yeah,

(08:09):
I mean, look, I mean, hey, hey, worked out better
for everybody, right, like, hey, we're fine. I mean I
look good for Cal, like for all those people that
were just lying to themselves, like not even I can
just see people not even talking to anybody, just talking
aloud to themselves, Like yeah, I'm happy for Cal. Just
trying to convince yourself that it wasn't really really bothering you,
that the man was flourishing in the first weekend, wins

(08:29):
over Kansas, wins over Ricky p and then you know,
I mean, like, let's just back up, go back to
Sunday after he beat rick Betino, punched his ticket to
the second weekend. I mean you you, I mean, your
buttholes were tight. You knew that the pressure was on Pope,
which is silly because Pope can't control that. But had
Cal made the second weekend and you didn't, I mean, look,
it's a breakup, it's a divorce. You know what happens

(08:51):
when those things take place. You constantly compare yourself to other,
to the other, right, like, you're you want to win
the breakup, and you won the breakup up as far
as having a better season.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
But then, of.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Course, you know he beat you when he had one
win and sec play in five losses, and if he
would have made the Sweet sixteen and you didn't like it,
wouldn't have had anything to do with the future of
Kentucky basketball under Mark Pope. But again Cal was there forever.
It was a odd exit. I wouldn't say it was

(09:22):
like super toxic, although it kind of was right. I mean,
he didn't like the fan base they had to force
themselves to, you know, like him, and a lot of
them just at the end were clearly just not on board.
Like it had run its course. So last night to
see Cal go full Cal and completely implode, I mean

(09:43):
I was not at all surprised. Should have expected it,
honestly to see the victory lapse from Kentucky fans. And look,
I would have done the same thing. I would have
I mean, like it's totally normal. That's that's what I
alway I found myself. When it comes to the many
years I've had a platform to talk about the rivalry,

(10:05):
I've never understood those that try to downplay it. Right, Like,
what makes us crazy about our programs around here is
because the emotional investment that we've made, it's probably not healthy.
In fact, I'm certain it's not because I shouldn't get
worked up when it comes to these things as much

(10:25):
as I do. But you know, it's I don't think
I could change if I tried, and I don't want
to change. But with cal like again, like you didn't
just like okay, have a nice life, Like he was
your guy for a long time and you you know
you you had a lot of success with him and
then it kind of fell apart. So I just think
it's it. We don't even know these people, right, like
on a personal level, Like you don't know John cal Perry,

(10:47):
I'm sure. So it is kind of crazy that it
that it, you know, can consume you the way it
does as far as just like everything that comes with
being a diehard fan of of a blue blood program.
But like it's a normal thing for you to want
cal Perry to lose. And what I've I guess been
annoyed by is those that play the you know, well,
good for him, Yeah, I'm I'm happy for him. No

(11:09):
you're not. You're not, And you were happy as hell
last night that he lost. Just admit it. It's okay,
it's normal. You should embrace it, like I think cal
if he wants will be remembered in a like, he'll
probably do the same thing. Rick did not go coach Louisville.
But I mean, once he's done at Arkansas, I guarantee
he'll find his way back. He'll be honored, and he'll

(11:32):
do cal things and and you'll remember the good days
of cal and not really think about how it ended.
But he went to the SEC, he went to a
conference opponent that you play, and there's no doubt about it.
I remember, you know, roughly a year ago, whenever it
all happened, right, whenever he decided to go to arct Or,

(11:53):
he found a you know, he found new life. He
found a new job that would pay him compared to,
you know, close to what he made at Kentucky, a
good situation where he could win. And you hired Mark Pope,
Like everybody knew you were going to be comparing yourself
to him, and he was going to be comparing himself
to you. Like that's just I think that's a very
normal human like thing to do. You know, it's not

(12:14):
like you're really married. We're not talking about your ex
wife or your hex husband, but you know, he was
your coach for a long time. And when it comes
to Kentucky basketball. You know, their fan base is passionate
and as insane as anybody. So I was again, I
wasn't really thinking much about it, but to see the
victory laps last night was a very natural thing. And

(12:35):
don't fight it. If you wanted to take the victory lap,
but you didn't do it. Maybe it's a little late
now because you know toime has passed and now you
got to worry about your team playing the night. But
most Kentucky fans who would claim that they were unfhazed
in any way or they were bummed for Cal, like,
I think you're liars, I really do. Now let's talk

(12:57):
about the meltdown that took place. I mean it was
it was Cal Like. That's that's what Cal does.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
He.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I mean, he blew a thirteen point lead with you know,
four and a half minutes. I mean he was up
by what's seventeen early in the second half, and it
just came down to him getting out coached when it
comes to x's and o's scheme, And it's such a lazy,
low hanging fruit thing to bring up when it comes
to Caliperry, And what I mean is, well, he just

(13:27):
rolls the balls out. He's a recruiter, he can't coach.
Some of that's true, but it's not that simple. There
are a lot of things that come with being a
head coach that have nothing to do with x's and
o's strategizing that can make you great at this. He
has a lot of that, but when it comes to

(13:48):
you know, dialing things up, getting the clipboard out right,
that's where he lacks in a major way. And it
was on full display last night because you know, Cal
not to defend him, but like when it comes to
getting the team even in the position last night, again
he has and jan now Davis started playing really, really well.

(14:09):
And look, it's always weird because I kind of pumped
the brakes anytime I go there because he is coaching
elite talent that every program wanted. But he's also you know,
most of them are freshmen and he I think, I
believe he's always been able to clearly get more out
of those guys than most would because one of the
things that he was criticized for for a good reason

(14:30):
during his time in Lexington, especially towards the end, was
the fact that he he would, you know, give you
the excuse, well, they're young. What do you expect? They're young?
They're young, And I think he would do it just
to piss you guys off talking about Kentucky Farance, I
really do, like I think he knew that you will
like but you chose to be young, you could have,
you know, like he did it just to mess with you.
He trolled you towards the end. But he would always

(14:50):
say that publicly, well they're young, they're young, or he
would say things like, you know, we haven't practiced. But
I don't think he coaches those like he he'll bay
them and defend them about being young in a press conference,
in an interview on his radio show, But I don't
think he does that internally. I think he demands a
lot out of those guys that at eighteen, And that's
why you can get too late in the season and

(15:13):
Arkansas be playing as good as they did down the stretch,
and they played really good last night until it fell apart.
So you know, you know his whole I can't hide
you here at Kentucky, and he's probably saying the same
thing playing the same hits at Arkansas, I can't hide
you here, Like I think that's an element to where
he really does not treat you at all like a
freshman when he's coaching you, but he does you know,

(15:34):
he's going to defend you to the media because that's
that's his approach. So again, he's got a gift at
getting young talented freshmen to I believe, being a much
maybe not a much better, but a lot better situation
in February and March than they would be had they
played for somebody else. Now there are exceptions. Anthony Davis
would have done that wherever he went, Cooper Flagg at

(15:56):
Duke would have done that, wherever would be doing this
wherever he went. Exceptions, But there's other guys, you know,
like a Shay Gilders Alexander. You know, I can't credit
Cali Perry for Shay Gilders Alexander being an NBA MVP
candidate for the second straight year, because that's his ability,
his talent, and he's clearly got a great work ethic.
He came to Kentucky kind of hungry, right like, he
wasn't a primetime recruit compared to the vast majority of

(16:18):
the players that John Calipari brought in, but he he
got him ready to wear. Shay was what not. Even
starting at the beginning of the season, he was behind
Quade Green, you remember that name, And then by the
time you got to February, he was one of the
best guards in the SEC. So again, clearly he's doing
it with a talented player. But I just think there's

(16:40):
things that like cal is really really good at some
things that have nothing to do with X and o's,
which will always make him a relevant and a good
coach that will win I think a lot more games
than he will lose. But his blatant lack of strategic
x's and o stuff has been evident since he was
at UMass. It's just it's just clear. So sometimes he

(17:04):
can overcome that, right, sometimes he can overcome not being
great that the x's no is because he really just
he unleashes an insane amount of talent with his roster
every year. And if he's got him playing with confidence,
and they're playing at their highest level, and they're competing
like they you know, like they did when they went
to Rup, like they did whenever they played Saint John's

(17:25):
last week, those are like he can get those guys
to be at their best and play like absolute dogs
in those moments and again, I think that's a gift
that he has and that's a factor in him being
a coach. There's a lot of components to being a coach.
There's a lot of different ways to do it, different styles.
But I still think last night was again a great
example of he's always lacked when it comes to just

(17:45):
strategic stuff. And you know that, I think is why
he has one title. I mean a Kentucky he should
have had more, right, and if you go back, I
mean all the tournament laws, so it's not all of them,
but a lot of the tournament losses that Cali Perry
had at Kentucky in the last decade, most of them

(18:09):
were to teams that you just know weren't as good
as Kentucky. Now that doesn't mean that you know you
can't lose a game, but like Yukon in the championship game,
Kevin Alie beat him in the championship game. Think about that,
like that's insane, right. Look at that team he had,
Julius Randall, I mean, James Young, I mean that the
Harrison Twins, Like that team was great. And then you

(18:30):
know Kansas State in the Sweet sixteen, Bruce Weber coaching
that team, by the way, like Kevin Alie, Bruce Webber.
They sent Cal home with an NBA roster And it's
because when you have that weakness of just you know,
strategic x's and O stuff, even bad coaches can take
advantage of it at times. And just to see him,

(18:53):
you know, not call a time out late last time,
I mean, it was an absolute It was a mess,
and I'll be honest that kind of enjoyed it myself.
I mean I didn't really have any you know, I
wasn't pulling for Cal in Arkansas. But there is the
element in the rivalry where it's like, Okay, if he
keeps dancing on and they somehow, you know, slip up
and lose, let's say they lose to Night to Tennessee,

(19:13):
that'll be bad for Kentucky fans. And I kind of
want that to happen because you know, I'm a lunatic.
That's what the rivalry does to us.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
That would be one of their possible worst case scenarios
that Dately never would have thought of going into this
year to in my opinion, yh oh.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I agree, and look tonight, these players for Kentucky
have no they don't care about John Calipeire. They don't
even know him, you know what I mean? So in
Mark Popel like there's no pressure in any way and
has not been in any way for this team that
Kentucky has right now to perform in March because they
got out do Calipari Like they don't even think about him,
they don't know him. But the fan base it's been

(19:47):
on there like they it's been on their mind a
lot more than I think they would admit. So anyways,
let's get to a quick break. In fact, before we
do that, let's go to the phone lines. We've had
somebody that's been waiting patiently. But when we do take
this call and then take a break, we'll come back
and get you set a lot to get to a busy,
busy day and uh, I hope you guys hang out.
But let's go to let's go to let's se is it?

(20:08):
Let's go to Jay Rock? Who wants to talk Kid Rock?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Hey, I got a couple of things. First off Balls
by ninety and uh bro talking about Kid Rock's debut album. Now,
he had an album back in nineteen ninety and his
best song ever is called Yodling in the Valley. It's
about Kid Rock Joldlin in the Valley.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You need to check it out, Jay Rock, would we
be allowed to play it on the show?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
You think?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Or is it too is it too graphic?

Speaker 5 (20:33):
No player?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Thank you Jay Rock. No Player.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's all the endorsement on E.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That was kind of a badass way to end his call. Yeah,
I mean, Jay Rock usually is just ahalla, but that
no Play. I mean I felt like he meant it
when he said.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right, he's he's yes, not the first time.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Kid rocks first album was probably a rap album because
for those who don't know, like that's what he did before.
I mean, like he was his image now compared to
his image like you ever seen the movie How House
Party Kid and Play? Yes, so like I'm pretty sure
he had a haircut similar to the guy who has
you know, like the oh yeah, I always get the
two guys mixed up in that movie Kid and Play.

(21:12):
I don't know which one's which, but yeah, Kid Rock
has he's had quite He's evolved in a major way
over the last you know, over the last twenty something year.
In fact, longer than that. I mean this was in
nineteen ninety. This is probably okay, this right here, it's
the most notable one, right has to be. And it's

(21:32):
like so sing along Kumbaya corny.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
But you know but in karaoke song that in picture,
yeah yeah, American.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Badass was really really oh yeah, really good.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
It's the undertaker right there, baby.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's stuff all right, quick break, keep it locked right here.
It's coffee and Company. Feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Ninety now back to Coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's
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Speaker 2 (21:56):
So, Kid Rock is in town the night at the
YOUM Center. And I mean I never claimed to be
like a Kid Rock super fan at all, because I'm not,
oh absolutely, but I said debut album, like he had
way more albums than I realized, like before he was famous.
I guess I meant, like, you know, when he became mainstream,
because it was the album in nineteen ninety eight that

(22:19):
was Devil without a cause I was ten years old.
Now I probably shouldn't have been listening to kid Rock
at that time, but like I remember when he became
like a thing. I remember, I'm looking at the cover
right now because I had this CD. I got birthday
money and I went and bought I went and bought
this CD, Devil without a Cause. And then I also
purchased Limp Biscuit they have I don't remember the name

(22:42):
of that album, yeah, but it is the one that had.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
The chocolate starfish and the hit dog flavored water?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Did it off of the nookie? That's that's what that yeah.
So and then also I also there was one more
CD that I bought. Oh it was well, no never,
that was a different time. Well, I mean you said
it like the first few CDs I bought are those two?
And then I also bought Eminem's one of his out,
one of his first albums, and and those were like
I just remember, and I think a lot of people listening.

(23:08):
Rather if you're somebody who you know, was a lot
younger than me, and your first introduction to music was
on you know, was digital, like on the internet, not radio,
then then you know you make me feel old. But
like even if you're somebody that is a lot older
than me, like you probably remember the first record you bought,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Right, I think those three right there, lip Biscuit, Kid Rock,
Eminem when we talked about like late nineties, you said
it earlier, like that's It's plastered everywhere on TRL E
entertainment magazines and stuff like that. And that's that's what
I remember with Carson Daley A TRL was watching that
all the time. It's TRL right, Oh yeah, TRL. I

(23:42):
thought I was getting mixed up. But yeah, that that
and music that did such a thing for music and
influence on us as kids. Like you said, we probably
shouldn't have been listening to that music, but the culture
that had I mean, hell, they were on like like
wrestling and stuff. That's how I got introduced a kid
rock with well that was a freaking undertaker.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
So that was when the internet was a baby, right,
and you still had to absolutely utilize mainstream traditional television
radio like you know, Like I don't know if the
WWE Attitude era would have happened if the Internet and
social media existed at that time. No, And that's that's

(24:20):
a crazy thing to think about. And I'm I know,
I just did a hard right turn to wrestling there,
But I'm just thinking like in that like that was
all kind of the same time, right, Like that was
the same era, like late nineties, early two thousands, yep.
And I'm looking here at the track listing for that
Devil without a Cause album and I forgot about only
god knows why, Like that was deep. I remember, I remember,

(24:41):
you know, ten year old me thinking like, man, this
is deep, like I can relate to this, and you know,
of course not like I mean that is that is
a really funny and I mean a really funny TikTok
trend that I'm seeing all over TikTok whenever I'm on there,
that it's in the algorithm, probably just because I you know,
they got like a chip in my brain or something.
I can think of something that I want to see

(25:03):
and then I'll open up TikTok and it'll be there,
like it's insane. And I'm sure there was a real
reason why we had to worry about losing the app
because of you know, the information and what you know,
basically what they have. We use the app, but I'll
live with it because forget, it's entertaining. But they'll show
people will now post a picture of them as like
a child when they're like, you know, eight, nine years old,

(25:25):
ten years old, maybe a little bit older, maybe a
little bit younger. And the caption says, this was my anthem,
and I was obsessed with this song when I looked
like this. And if you go and like pull a
picture of me as an eight year old, I guess
I would have been in like third fourth grade, probably
going into fourth grade at the time this album came out,

(25:47):
and I remember, like, I mean I could sing every
word to these songs. I probably you know did in
my room. But like a picture of me as an
eight year old with you know, ball with the Ball
or Cowboy or Devil without a Cause, Like, just like that,
it's not fitting, you know what I'm saying, Like they'll be,
they'll be the most the most common tiktoks I'm referring

(26:10):
to are like girls that are awkward in like eleven
and there, and it's a girl song that's like or
a rap song that's like super provocative and like sexual,
and it's just like it's awkward. But like I'm sitting
here thinking, like you know what, like I eight year
old Nick was listening to things that he had no
business listening to, and you know, kind of like getting
lost in the music as if like I'm the target

(26:30):
audience when in no way, shape or form was I
People like kids still like get connected to music now, right,
Like I I think so I mean, like I've got
I guess I'll find out because I'm gonna be going
on spring break next only kids. Yeah, Like I've so
my daughter she's she's nine, My son is four, and he,
by the way, my son, he really loves I mean,

(26:51):
but my kids like music. But I'm just in everybody,
I think it'd be unnatural to not like music. But
I'm just thinking, like, how do you consume it now
when you're young, Like for us, it was radio, and
it was it was TRL, and it was like the
local radio stations around here. I'm sure you know, heck,
some of them are probably down the hall. I mean
as far as like they were stations that were you
know that that are still around that were like ninety

(27:12):
eight nine has been around forever. Yeah, And I remember
they would be like a top ten countdown and like
I would listen, we would listen to at night, like
the top ten songs. Because I mean, it's just a
crazy thing to think about as we sit here on
March twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I grew up in
a world where if you didn't, if they didn't, if
they weren't playing it on the radio, you weren't hearing it,

(27:35):
like you know. Now you can get it at your
fingertips at any moment, like you know, or you could
buy the album, but like a lot of times, you know.
And that's how they were able to sell so many
copies because the build up, right, Like you would release
a single that people could only hear on the radio,
and you're building up to promote that you've got this
big album coming out, and people want to listen to
it and it's not and they don't want to rely
just on the luck of turning on the radio at

(27:56):
the right time. They'll go line up outside of a
store to buy it. It's just a lot of things
have changed in a major way with technology over the years.
I mean, the rapid growth in like a five year
time span is crazy. But I feel like music because
it's something that you know, it never goes away, right,
Like we have different trends, different styles. I mean, I

(28:18):
feel like now we're kind of in a genre less phase.
But I feel like that sped. Like the thinking about
how we got music ten years ago compared to how
we do it now is insane. I mean, the streaming
it's nowadays, Like who downloads albums on iTunes? Anymore. Is
that even a thing like that? That was like the

(28:39):
new way to get music because you didn't have to
go buy it at the story. You could just buy
the album and download it on your iTunes. Now people
have Spotify or they have Apple Music and you just
like you stream it that way.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I thought for a while iTunes was like completely done,
but I mean you could still go on iTunes like
dot com.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
So so like yeah, like I'll I don't do it
anymore because I don't need to. But before you were
able to download movies from like Hulu, Netflix, right like
if I would fly and I couldn't rely on streaming
because I didn't have service like I now, I just
download something on Netflix and watch it when I'm on
the plane. But not that long ago, that wasn't a
feature to where I would have to go to iTunes
and download a buy a movie or rent a movie

(29:18):
and then download it. And I remember, like probably three
or four years ago, doing that and thinking to myself, man,
like iTunes, it looks it looks like I just pulled
up AOL dial up internet, you know what I mean,
Like it's just I haven't been here in a while,
and uh yeah, it's just I don't know. It's crazy
how how things evolve, and it's kind of sad, like
there's something about nostalgia that is like a drug, Like

(29:42):
it puts me in a trance of like, oh my god,
to go back to you know, hearing that dial up
internet sound, and I know I could easily pull it
up on YouTube. But you know, just like you don't
have a clue at the time that you will one day,
decades later long for just little little things, you know
what I mean. But you know that for some reason,

(30:02):
just really like stood out. Anyways, we'll move On's Coffee
and Company. We're fiel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk
seven ninety. As you could expect, we did spend some
time at the beginning of the show discussing last night
Sweet sixteen results and really no upset, right, I mean,
you had Florida take care of business against Maryland, really
pull away in the second half. Alabama was insane. I mean, Alabama,

(30:26):
when they're shooting threes like that, there's no reason to
play them. Give them the title. Now again, they've also
had many games where they don't shoot like that, But
it played out exactly the way not I mean I
didn't think they were going to make what twenty five
threes break a record, Like, I didn't see that coming.
But again, if there's a team that that you know
is capable of being able to do that, they're clearly

(30:49):
they're one of them, or maybe the only one, just
because they're built to do that. But I thought to myself,
you know, BYU they're hot, and they were competing early.
They actually got up to a really good start. BYU's
probably one of the hottest teams in the country as
far as momentum. They can score a lot of points.
They were averaging like eighty to a game. I like
their young coach. But here we have a team who

(31:10):
the way they want to play when they're at their best,
they just so happened to be facing a team that
is built to do it, but a lot better than them,
better pieces just I mean, and that's how that game
ended up being. It really was, I mean, honestly, it wasn't.
I mean, it was a blowout. What was the final score?
I don't have it pulled up here, but they won
by twenty right or close to it. I feel like they.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Play one hundred and eleven to eighty something like that
or one hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
To eighty because I feel like BYU competed, like I
don't think that they mean, again, they're not great defensively,
but neither's Alabama.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
One thirteen to eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, so it was I mean it was. It's a
beat down, but it really came to like had they
made I don't know, thirteen fourteen threes instead of twenty five.
I mean, it's a much different ballgame, right, but work
Sis came out and hit like nine. I feel like
at halftime by the half, I'm exaggerating, but I mean
it was. It was insane and again it was a

(32:07):
record and I'm trying to pull up this stat that
I it's one of those things that I just see
appear across the timeline and I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
Let me let me favorite or like whatever you call
it on Twitter so I can reference this. But it
almost makes like sometimes there's like some of these things
like can't be true, right because let me see if
I can pull it up here, and now that I'm

(32:28):
referencing it and not able to find that it could
be one of those things where it's been deleted because
somebody was able to determine that, like it wasn't true,
but they could have. They could have won the game tonight. Yeah,
here it is. And I guess this is really simple math.
It's not like you know, you got to really, I mean,
do you any fact checking, But they could have not
made a single two point shot and still won the game.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean I haven't even looked to see if that's
remotely true, but I just saw it last night when
I was, you know, a couple of gummies in and
I'm just like, wow, that's crazy, and it stood out.
But yeah, Alabama, that version of Bama unstoppable. But clearly,
you know they're not going to make twenty five threes
every night, but if they make like eighteen, that's really

(33:11):
not that unusual for them, and that makes any team
tough to beat. So Bama last night, again they were
insanely hot. But it's kind of a reminder that they've
not been really the flavor of the season, right like
because they went to the nobody's acting like they're terrible
or anything like that. But they broke through last year
when Nadoes got to a final four. Clearly in the SEC,
I think there's been more attention understandably so on Auburn

(33:32):
and Florida. Obviously, Duke is in the limelight like always,
but now even more so because of Cooper Flag. But
last night Bama showed a sign that I'm thinking, Okay,
that's a team that, like, if they win it all,
can't we can't be surprised Arizona. You know, they I
give them credit, right, I mean, like they lost, they
did cover with that backdoor cover late, but I feel

(33:53):
like they competed and they were you know, they were.
They're just not as good as Duke. Like Duke. When
Cooper Flag was rolling like that, I mean like they're
gonna be tough to be right. I mean he's sensational obviously,
and just like their game against Baylor, you now have
the other players on the team playing really well and
it's not like, oh that role player. He's you know,

(34:15):
he's not hurting you on defense or he's making his
free throws. You know, Like Cooper Flag is such a
high profile star that gets all the attention because he's exceptional.
He's very good. He's deserving of every praise that I
hear him getting. But right or I mean, it's nobody's fault,
it's just how it played out. But he also has

(34:35):
dudes on his team that are really really good, like
Proctor obviously and con Kinipple. I mean, you hear it
said multiple times every game you watch Duke, and it's
because you can't help but say it. As an announcer,
I would assume that, like you want people to realize, yes,
this Cooper flag out maybe once in a lifetime kind
of talent, but like this Conk Nipple due like he's
also one of the best players in the country.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So Duke rolled Florida, rold Alabama rolled and Arkansas and
Caliperry melted down and everybody was seemingly happy to see it.
Last night was a reminder kind of just like last
year when they lost to Oakland, that Cal is a
guy that when he's your guy, what are you gonna do?

(35:19):
You're gonna support your guy. But if he's not your coach,
you like seeing him lose. You like he's a great
villain for college basketball. And I mean that because when
I saw everybody dancing on his grave last night and celebrate,
because it would be one thing if he just lost
a close game like the way he lost it give
I mean, it's it kind of in the moment. It

(35:43):
actually doesn't eliminate what he did to get there by
beating Kansas and Saint John's, Bill self and Rick Wtino,
but the way he lost it definitely dampens the fact
that he surprised people by even getting to the Sweet sixteen,
does it not? Because it just reminds you of this guy.
He's phenomenal at building teams and recruiting. But man, if
you get somebody that's you know, strategizing and they've got

(36:03):
good players too, he's cooked. And that's exactly what happened.
But cal he can handle being the villain, he can
handle dealing with everybody hating him, but he doesn't do
well with his own fan base. Like that's what really
made it, I think, not to play you know, psychiatrist
here with Big bluination and their former coach. But whenever

(36:27):
they were awful in the COVID year and won like
seven eight games, he basically got a million dollars per
game he won, and you know, there was criticism in
a way that he hadn't been criticized before. And then
he lost to Saint Peter's. He heard the fan base
that worshiped the ground he walked on criticized him in

(36:49):
a way that he never expected, and he never recovered
from that, Like he never like he I mean he,
I mean he's all I mean that's why, Like he's
all about loyalty and he thinks that like he was
betrayed by his fan base. Like let me give you
an example, Like Seth Greenberg and him are really close.
Seth Greenberg makes a fool of himself discussing Caliperry when
he's doing his job for ESPN. Because he's so loyal

(37:11):
to Cal, he can't criticize him, like he can't like
he can't be real because it's just all about loyalty.
It's like Italian mob stuff. I guess so Cal I
think does have tough skin when it comes to everybody
else outside of his own because Dan Hurley, he's the
new villain, right, he's soft as can be. He plays victim.

(37:32):
H what's everybody acting like I'm a lunatic? Cal Like
that's why he like that's why he doesn't have buddies
in the media, Like he's not chummy with I mean,
him and Goodman hate each other, right, like Pat forty
they hate each other. It's a personal thing. Like Cal's
probably got a dartboard with their face on it. That's
just how he's built. So last night to see everybody

(37:55):
enjoying seeing the villain go down, it actually, you know,
I thought to myself, I got respect for Cal because
like he's done. He's been that guy since he was
at UMass and he's comfortable in it. But where it
got weird and where he was called, you know, soft,
and you know he cares too much about people think
he won't like if he knows like fans are wanting
him to do something, he won't do it intentionally. And

(38:18):
it's because one he's stubborn, but also like he felt
betrayed by them, and it started just playing like him
not playing Reeves Shepherd and dealing him together last year.
I mean, it's not something that people I think are
going to remember for the rest of their lives, but
like it's insane. It was quite literally just stubbornness because
he knew that that's what everybody else thought he should do,
and he wanted to do different to and he wanted

(38:38):
to be able to win games. He's arrogant enough to
think he could win without playing those guys together and
be able to say, look, I told you so, all right,
quick break will come back. A lot more to get into,
including Louisville has one of the top transfers in the
portal visiting as we speak, Kentucky's already landed a commitment
in the portal. So I think there's a trend that
I'm noticing here early on in the portal. And I'll

(38:58):
talk about that next right here on SPORTSCOK seven ninety now.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Back to coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on Sports
Talk seven nine day.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
So we haven't talked about it yet, but I promise
we'll get to it in the four o'clock hour. Kevin
Willard last night one of the more unusual things you'll
see in college sports. And when I was watching Maryland
get off to a good start, now they got they
got to be pretty bad in the end, just because
Florida' is that good. But something hit me that I

(39:32):
think is a really obvious thing. But we're just not
used to noticing it, if that makes sense. So maybe
it's not that obvious, but we'll get to that in
the four o'clock hour, because I don't think it was
that surprising that they were able to have this distraction
going on for really weeks and yet it not make
a difference at all. I mean, they they were still
I mean you would never know about watching Maryland that
they had that going on with their coach behind the scenes.

(39:54):
But anyways, we'll get at that later real quick to
some updates when it comes to the transfer portal. So
Louis as we speak, I mean, maybe he's left, maybe
he's on his way. I don't know. But a visitor
today for the Cards is one of the top transfers
in the portal, and that is a six to five
guard from Kennesaws State named Adrian Wooley. He averaged eighteen

(40:17):
point eight points per game, shooting fifty one point two
percent from the field forty two point two percent from three.
He was again we're talking about a six five guard
conference USA Rookie of the Year. He is he is,
I mean he's I didn't know, is this new. I
don't know if you've seen this before, but I guess
this isn't I guess this is not new. I just
haven't noticed it as much. But like they give you

(40:38):
a noose, like in the portal, you can be a
portal three and four or five star. Probably no, you
know what I mean, Like, you can go to twenty
four to seven Sports and look at you know, this
young man coming out of high school, Adrian Wooley. He
is from Cottondale, Alabama. In high school, he was a
three star recruit, ranked as the three hundred and eighth guy.
But now in the portal he's a five star. So

(41:02):
you know, that doesn't really mean a whole lot to me,
but whatever, you know, regardless of how you want to
look at it, he's a guy that a lot of
schools want and Louisville is hosting him. So maybe this
could be because I think this stuff's gonna play out
pretty quick. I really do. Like I think you get
an early visit, you have a good sales pitch, and
your money is where they want it. Meeting the players,

(41:25):
then I think commitment. In fact, in the last twenty
four hours there have been some commitments that rolled in.
So we'll talk a little more about Woolley a little
later on. But again, six or five combo guard really
good score. I mean kennessas State. I don't think they
were very good last year, but wasn't because of this guy.
Kentucky's already by the Way landed a commitment in the

(41:47):
portal Tulane. I can't think of the young man's name
he pulled up here. I'd not heard of him. But
again that doesn't mean he was. Mean, there's a lot
of players that hit the portal that you get super
excited about, but a week before you know they commit,
you'd never heard of them. Because it's just I mean,
that is one of the things that I'm curious if
that'll change over time, meaning because this is gonna be
how teams really reload. I mean, you're not gonna build

(42:09):
rosters from scratch like Louisville and Kentucky did this past year.
But when it comes to like, the most important thing
in the off season for you is gonna be what
you do in the portal. I mean, no matter who
you are, that is going to be the most important
component to going from one season to the other is
how you handle the portal. And with that, over time,
will people keep up with the lower level because that's

(42:30):
gonna be the minor leagues now. I mean it just
is right like you're gonna watch, like when you play
one of these teams. If Kennesaw State was here in
November playing Louisville and this young man put up thirty
on us. You remember that, and you're gonna think to yourself,
that guy's probably gonna hit the portal, because nowadays it's
more of a surprise if somebody like this stays at
those schools, because again, if they do stay and pass

(42:55):
up on the chance to hit the portal, go make
a ton of money and play at a higher level,
all that is is just a gift to that school.
I mean, it's just doing them a favor and that
let's I checked. Like, you know, most people don't do that, right.
So again, the transfer for Kentucky is a young man
named Cam Williams. So he's a six to eight shooter

(43:15):
and uh average, I think just about double figures last
year at TWU lane. Yeah, nine point three points four
point five rebounds. So two things about both these guys,
I don't know what their offers were coming out of
high school. I can look into it, and I'm going
to because I'm curious. But these guys like they might
have been legitimately good freshmen, and you know, as far

(43:37):
as they work at freshmen, I mean they might have
been Let's go. What I mean is like as recruits,
like they might have had some options coming out of
high school, but they chose to go to Tulane or
Kinnessas State because like they knew that they would play
right away. And now here they are getting rerecruited. And
this kid who picked Kentucky, I mean, he's going to Kentucky.
For crying out loud, that's a pretty big time program probably,

(43:58):
you know, as they say, one of those dreams for him.
But after a year at Tulane, he hits the portal,
he's here and he's going to Kentucky. But Florida was
calling Louisville, Texas, Baylor, LSU, Texas Tech, Arkansas USC. So
if you're a high school kid and you're like a
three star, I mean, you never know how it's going
to play out for you. But if you really do
believe in yourself and you want to play and you

(44:21):
value you know, a role, an opportunity, I just think
this is going to be the new path for those guys, unless,
of course, you know you are a top ten overall player,
top twenty, because that's different. All right, quick break, we'll
come back. Two more hours left. Stick around. It's coffee
and company. We are fuel about Thornton's right here in
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