9.17: No Rhythm - Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think
when we are get off our show.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Idiot, the kids are playing or turning off, crying punctures
are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold
Play Inner Murals.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Who's the kid here?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Here's nick coffee?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
All right, let's get it started. Shall we welcome into
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Alden is alongside John. We feeling good today, Brother, I
am feeling good. You had a good afternoon thus far.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, so I woke up with a sore throat and
I was it was going to take me into the
rest of the day. But you know, I'm a big
coffee drinker and so a couple of cups of coffee
I've actually had three today already really soothes the throat
feeling a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
So do you feel like it's allergy related?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Because yeah, my wife has really bad allergies too, and
they usually affect her sooner than they affect me. And
you know, just listening to myself talk right now, it
definitely sounds like things are at least working.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, for the time being. E kid me. You sound
phenomenal as always. Yeah, I mean, allergies aren't fun for anybody,
and allergies can cause like things that really kind of
can just derail your day or really just cause you
you know, it could be a real pain in the ass.
So although you know, I don't know if there's any
allergies that would be related to your actual ass, but
you know what I mean, And I sometimes feel myself

(02:23):
feeling a little itch, you know, and I just hope
it's allergies because that you know that at least it
makes it make sense. It usually isn't something that's going
to completely, you know, put you down and out for
a couple of days. But yeah, this when when the
seasons are changing, which what I mean, that's what we're
at right now. That you know, I'm hoping it's allergies
for you because I don't want you getting sick. You

(02:43):
don't get you never get sick.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Sort of taking one sick day in the history of
me being here for nearly five years.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'd like to I hope we're still working together in
the year twenty forty seven. I just picked a random
year many many years from now, and and you're still
sitting here saying one sick day in the history of
because like some people can claim, like, oh, I've never
took it, never took a sick day. Of those kids
you went to school with it, like bragged about never
missing a day of school. I bet that was worth it.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I was one of those, at least, at least for
all you know, I didn't even know this for a while,
you never missed a day of school, not that I
remember ever, No, not ever.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's a really hard thing to do, especially when you're people.
But people have done it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I thought you were literally about to say you were
one of those guys that graduated high school and could
claim you never missed a day of school for being sick.
That might be true, but I've missed days for other reasons. Yeah,
same thing, like perfect attendance. She ever heard of that?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, I've heard of perfect attempt Okay, So like that's
like the lame thing to brag about though, right, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That was my point.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
But then you made me kind of feel like you
were one of those guys might be who he's talking about,
but you would know, Like again, if you were somebody
like that went through public school, I guess it could
be private too, but you and I are both some
public school OG's here, and you never missed a day
of school for any reason.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that's I'm not in that category, okay, cause some
people are. It's super rare, but like the people who
do it, you know. In fact, I remember there were
two kids that I was in school with one. I mean,
I mean it was a known thing, like we got
to like seventh eighth grade kid never missed the day,
sure enough, we graduate never missed today. And I kind of,

(04:24):
you know, I kind of felt bad for him because,
like I think he didn't want it to be brought
up all the time, but it was a rare thing,
and you know, they wanted to brag on him. But
like I think after a while he was like, all right, enough,
like this doesn't make me look cool. I'm a puberty's hit.
I'm a teenager now, Like this is not gonna help
me with the ladies. They're not gonna, you know, move
me up the power rankings of guys they're interested in

(04:46):
because I never missed school. So I kind of felt
bad for him. I mean, he doesn't wrong with what
he did, but like it was always kind of thrown
in our face, like if you could only be like
this kid because he's never missed school. And then there
was another kid who it was a she moved to
our district, our area, not from around here. We're supposed
to just believe that she never missed school the first

(05:06):
nine years she was in publics. Come on, I mean, sure,
all right, I don't believe her, still don't to this day.
So you're telling me you have missed school for like
a funeral or or something fun I want to do. Yeah, like, okay,
well you got to miss school just because you want
to go do something fun. Yeah, Usually it was.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
So there was a time back whenever I was probably
middle school early high school, where my grandpa and I
we would go up annually to either an IU baseball
game and I you foot.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean football games.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Are on Saturdays, but basketball that's all the times that
I get checked out early to travel up to Bloomington
for the afternoon in the evening.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's awesome. That is awesome. Here you had me thinking,
I am I insulted you because you were like one
of those kids I was just talking about that literally
never met like lived at the school.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
If they were they thinking about just in reference to
being sick. So I had sick days as a kid,
and it pains me to admit this. I can say
this now because you know, I'm a grown adult and
I think it's time to come clean mom.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And she's not listening. My mom's in Florida, she's on
she's on vacation. But I'm sure we'll get back to
her because I know a lot of her, her her coworkers. Listen.
I can tell you this, mom, and it's gonna feel
good to get it off my chest. Seventy five percent
at minimum of the time I stayed home from school sick,
I wasn't really sick. Now, it wasn't that often because

(06:25):
she was pretty like you know, oh you don't feel good,
get up like you know she was she she was
you know, she was a good she's a great mother.
But you know she would if I was really sick,
she'd know, she'd help me. But she had a good
she had a good detector. You know what I'm saying, like, Oh, no,
you're just tired. You were up last night, you know
playing NBA Live that you're not sick. You're tired because

(06:46):
you didn't go to bed when I told you to son,
like see you know she could, so I oftentimes didn't try,
but there were some times where I was able to,
like here's what I would do, Like, wait a second,
I don't feel sick, but man, I am losing my
voice a little bit. I don't feel like I'm sick,
but man, in the nose is a faucet, and I
would just kind of, you know, I would kind of
overdo it as far as all symptoms to where she

(07:07):
would you know, I don't know if she ever really
believed me, but there were times where she was like,
all right, well he doesn't sound good, didn't look good
by send him to school, and then I'm gonna look
like a bad mom. So I'm just gonna keep him home.
Did you ever hear of any tricks to like make
you to make you be able to uh, to make
you be able to like have a fever? Didn't have
something to do with like putting ice or penny. So

(07:30):
I never had you know what to try it because
like if, I like if, mom, because nowadays it's all digital.
Whenever I was in school and I was growing up
and like your parents were checking your temperature, like you know,
it was an older thermometer. I don't know if there
was any digital capabilities to it, but like, you know,
for some reason, I feel like it was red like
with the you could read it with like that red line,

(07:51):
you know what I mean, where you know, something like that.
So I remember kids at school saying like if you
put a penny under your tongue. It was a kid
on the bus he would say that if you put
a penny under your tongue and the thermometer, like the
silver tip of it hits you know, it's underneath your
tongue and it's on the penny, it'll it'll register every
time at like one hundred points something like, nothing crazy high,

(08:13):
but still you had a temperature. Yeah, And like I
just believed him. Kid was kind of a bully, so
he's probably you know, he's probably lying, just messing with
us because we were he was two years older than us.
But I always wondered did that work? And I thought
about it a couple of times. I had a penny
next to my nightstand when I was going to try
to you know, fake sick, and I never had the
stones to do it, because like if Mom saw I
had some kind of you know device, some kind of

(08:36):
a way to kind of, you know, manipulate the thermometer.
One she'd be disappointed in me, and also you know,
she might knock me upside the head. I mean, not really,
but you know, it was different times back in the
in the nineties, folks, I got spanked. It wasn't fun.
I got spanked in the two thousands.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Did you.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I'm actually this not to take the conversation in a
weird direction as we get the show started in a
very unexpected, unusual way, or still getting like spanked.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I think I think it's a lot more accepted than
maybe people would make it out to be, because I
do know there is a larger contingent of people who
are against it, and.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, I'm good. A lot of people are against
things when it comes to parenting, that don't have kids,
that aren't parents, that are never gonna be parents, don't
want to be parents, and they're the most opinionated people
on how how kids should be raised. Again, I feel
strongly about this. I don't you know not to say
you can't have an opinion, and you are beneath people
who don't have me. Trust me, if you don't want

(09:31):
to have kids, that's your choice, and I'm sure you've
made that choice and feel great about it. It is not
about like, hey, you don't have a kid, You're not
really you never really had to go. But I don't
think you can actually, Like here's what I'll say. You
can't relate unless you have a kid. Doesn't mean you
can't have an opinion, doesn't mean you can't you know,
express your thoughts. Like I know people all the time
who don't have kids that I talk to about my
life as a parent and as a dad, and like

(09:53):
I appreciate they're not insight, but like you know, I
appreciate hearing what they have to say about things because
I value them as as a human. But like that,
nothing nothing irks me more. This is like one of
the one of the things I got to add to
the list of things that like I realize I'm getting
worked up about and I'm like, okay, I'm getting old,
Like this is it. I'm now becoming Like now, okay,
I guess I'm conservative. Now I got you know, like

(10:13):
you know, it's happening. So one of those things is
people who are the most like the example, remember in
the JCPS bus thing was a complete disaster, yeah, last year,
comple I mean it was and it was absolutely a
train wreck. It made national news, and you know, it
was a scary, scary thought for somebody to not know
where their kid was because they got on the wrong

(10:35):
bus or the bus is still out and you know,
their kids in fourth grade so they don't have a
cell phone, that kind of stuff. But what really stood
out to me is that some of the most nasty
people towards JCPS, some of the most you know, loud
mouthed idiots on Facebook, did not have kids, did not
work in the school system, none of their it doesn't

(10:58):
relate to them in any way. And yet they're the
ones who were just the most opinionated on and about
what needs to be done and about the kids and
all that, and it just you know, those are things
that you know, the irritate me. But when it comes
to like disciplining kids, I mean, I'll I'll tell you
straight up, like I'm gonna hold my kids accountable. I'm
gonna make sure they know right from wrong as best
I can. I don't want to be that soft dad,
but like I don't think I would have the ability

(11:20):
to actually, you know, spank a kid, spank my kid.
I'm just taking any kids. I'm just saying, you know,
cry around you cry with them. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
And I once and now that I know like that,
that's what I would do, I'm like, let's just avoid
that experience. All right, Let's get the show started. What
a weird eleven and a half minutes to uh, you know,
to lean in here, but here we are here, we
are all right. We are gonna have one guest joining

(11:42):
us today, coming up at four thirty. We'll talk. Actually,
let me double check here. I believe it may not
be four thirty. I may have just told you a lie.
Kendrick Haskins. That's who's gonna be with us. You know him,
you love him, You see him on Wave three. He's
gonna be with us at four or five today. We'll
talk with Kendrick. We do it each week, get his
thoughts on the local teams. And I don't know I'm
gonna have to. I mean, with Cowboys being you know,

(12:06):
allegedly America's team, Kendrick's one of my biggest cowboy fan friends,
and like I mean, they give Dak all the money
and then of course they come out and get completely
curb stomped at home and their home opener to Dallas.
I'm sorry to New Orleans, so I may rip him
a little bit on that, but also I just want
to get his thoughts as far as what he expects

(12:27):
to see in this first real test for louisvill against
Georgia Tech coming up on Saturday. Kentucky, I mean, what's
more likely none of us will know until we actually
see results that have yet to come. But for those
that just think this means Kentucky is you know, because
the reality is this Kentucky football is probably a mixture

(12:47):
between what you saw against Georgia and what you saw
against South Carolina. And to be fair to them, just
because I know they've got some pretty good personnel, I
actually would say they're a closer team to what you
saw against Georgia than to what you saw against South Carolina.
But more than anything, it's because they were just so
bad against South Carolina, probably the worst performance of Stoops's
time there. And you know they're not They're not gonna

(13:09):
be terrible. But for those that just think because they
played Georgia really really close and probably you know, I
mean head Stoops not punted it away on fourth down there.
Who knows what would have happened. But let me remind
you there are two teams that did exactly what you
did to Georgia, exactly outplayed them, meaning Georgia in Georgia's

(13:33):
first road SEC game of the season. All while Georgia
is in the midst of this current dynasty that they're on,
they are, I mean, I don't know if we can
call it a dynasty. I mean, they've won two out
of three and I mean again, had they been the
team that got in the playoff, wouldn't have been a
big head scratcher, although they did lose to Tobama in

(13:53):
the in the SEC championship game. But like if Georgia
would have made it all the way to the championship,
if Georgia would have made the fourteen playoff last year,
nobody would be surprised if they won it, and they'd
be looking at potentially going to a four peat. So again,
two teams have done exactly what Kentucky did on Saturday,
out play Georgia while they're this great and then not

(14:14):
be able to hold on and win. And I don't
even know if it's fair or accurate to say that
Georgia couldn't hold on or Kentucky couldn't hold on because
they never really had control of the game. But it
was neck and neck really from start definish. It was
a very competitive game. And as I said yesterday, you
take away everything you know about those teams prior to
kickoff and you just watch which you just watch the
game itself, you would say those are very comparable teams,

(14:35):
even though we know they're not. But anyways, Auburn last
year ended up doing the same thing they play they
they I think, and I remember watching that game because
I bet on it and I watched a good chunk
of it. And when you got a team on the
ropes like that, there's gonna be people tuning in because wow,
is Number one about to go down? And by the way,

(14:56):
that was the was that the most watched game of
college football this past weekend? It was one of them.
But anyways, last year Auburn played Georgia super competitive and
ended up not being able to hold on, and it
didn't mean that their season was then you know, turned around,
because they realized, hey, if we bring it every night,
we can play with anybody. They ended up having a

(15:17):
losing record and again lost to New Mexico State a
year before that. Missouri it was Auburn's. I'm sorry, not Auburn's.
It was George's first road game in SEC action outplayed them,
another game that I remember tuning in, not even because
I wagered, because I'm like, wow, was this about to happen?
That when a big upset's bruin, you know, maybe people

(15:39):
are not watching a game and they're just on their phone,
or maybe they're watching a different game. When you get
to halftime, you come back from a commercial break, if
there's a potential goliath about to go down, they're gonna
let everybody know and people are going to tune in
and watch. So that's why I remember both these games
pretty vividly. But Missouri, they were at home and they
outplayed them, only Tod not be able to hold on
and win, and then they ended up having a losing
season the rest of the way, ended up I think,

(16:00):
finishing the season five and seven. So I don't know
if Kentucky's gonna do that, But it is weird how
George has been in been in that situation twice and
again it's not just the fact that you almost beat
Georgia and then didn't. It's early in the season, right.

(16:20):
This has happened in each of each of the last
three seasons. George's first road game in SEC play has
been the exact same thing, and yet George just went
on to be really really good. The teams that have
done it up to this point, meaning challenge them, did
not really carry that over to the rest of the season. Well,
Kentucky do it. Who knows, maybe they will, because again,
I actually think Kentucky has good players. I don't know

(16:41):
how good their quarterback is, but if they can line
up and run the ball against Georgia like they did
the other night, I mean they should be able to
have They should be able to do that against a
lot of teams. So again, we'll talk to Kendrick coming
up here at about four h five. I watched last
night's Monday Night Football, and I mean it wasn't fun
for me because you know, my my picks I put

(17:03):
together with the underdog fantasy did not come through. But
that's okay. Well, I mean I get right back at
it come Thursday, and I'm gonna believe in the power
of positivity and hope that I put something together that
can they can cash because that's you know, that's what
you want to do. But I didn't know if anybody
else was observing the broadcast booth the way that I was.
So Travis Kelcey, not Travis Kelsey, his brother Jason Kelsey.

(17:26):
I oftentimes just like have to like, wait a second,
I know there's two Kelsey's. Obviously I know who I
know who Travis is, and like Jason Kelsey's a legendary player,
is going to be in the Hall of Fame, has
won Super Bowls like or a Super Bowl Like he's great,
but like I only really know of him because of
his brother, to be honest with you, but he was
in the Monday Night football booth last night with Aikman

(17:48):
and Buck, and like I was hoping they wouldn't I mean,
I was really hoping that it wouldn't be awkward for
those guys if they accidentally put that, like instead of
showing the the action on the field, maybe maybe they
go to a live shot of those guys in the booth,
because I'm pretty sure Buck even eight minute times would
have been caught on their knees in front of Kelsey,

(18:09):
who they were just I mean, he's to me, he
seems like a likable guy. He's the fat, funny guy
that can take his shirt off in chug Beers and
everybody says it's great and like he's just an offensive
lineman being and all, like you know, he's really likable.
But I'm seeing this. I'm like, dude, like there's a
game going on. Like it's cool that he's now no
longer a player and he's got this popular podcast, but

(18:31):
like this isn't He's not doing a stand up routine.
He's really not adding that much to the broadcast. Like
can we just like, because again I thought about going
to the Manning cast, didn't do that. I stuck with
the original broadcast and watched it that way. But like
it was just like they were just it reminds me
of the Seinfeld episode for those who know Seinfeld, where
George is just like enamored with Tony the mal bimbo

(18:56):
and just thinks he's the coolest guy in the world
and just got those big big eyes just staring at him,
like you know, he's got a male crush, and I
just that's that's the way Buckman or not Buckman, but
uh but Aikman and Buck were we're treating Kelsey and
he's looked. I think he's a little more likable than
his brother. But either way, I mean, it just was annoying.
And also the game sucked. It was not an entertaining

(19:18):
game by any means. And if you're an Eagles fan,
like I mean, that was terrible. I mean, you throw
it on third down when Barkley has not been stopped
at any point, He's had a really good day on
the ground, and you just want to run clock and
all you you throw it past to him on third down,
He doesn't catch it, stops the clock, no timeouts left

(19:39):
for Atlanta, and then they just had about as easy
of a drive to put themselves in field goal range
that I can remember in a situation like that. I
mean they had. It was almost like they had time
to spare. Kirk Cousins had not done much of anything
that whole game, and then sure enough he steps up
and gets him in field goal range, and they hold on,
or that they find a way to I was gonna

(20:00):
say hold on. They didn't hold on. They found a
way to win, and you give them credit, but like
everything that the Eagles needed to do to give that
game away, they did exactly that. So that sucked, but hey,
now we just have two days we got to get
through and then we got football once again, and I
am I'm looking forward to that. All right, some things
we'll get into today. There's some anil stuff I want

(20:23):
to discuss, and I don't want to, you know, nerd
out on numbers too much. But Tennessee appears to be
the first university that is letting their fans know, Hey,
we're gonna have to start paying these players ourselves now,
and we're gonna need you to pay ten percent. Talent
fee is going to be added to ticket prices moving

(20:43):
forward for Tennessee football. And there's a lot of reaction
to this. Most of the reaction I've seen is, wow,
they're so greedy. They have a billion dollar television deal
in the SEC and you need me to help pay
these players. And like, I get all that. I think
that's a legitimate it's a legitimate point. However, college sports

(21:06):
fans are suckers, and I'm one of them. Like, I
love college sports. If you told me I had to
pay five hundred dollars a year just to be able
to watch my team play on TV, you know, I
find a way to make it work. Financially, because like
I it's something college is different than this is essentially
pro sports. But again, like there's something about college sports

(21:30):
and I guess the fans of college sports to where
you'll pay whatever, like you'll do whatever. It's like it's
part of you. And I guess you could say the
same thing about certain fans of pro teams, because obviously
pro teams have diehard fans as well. But like, I
don't know, I just I get the reaction of these

(21:51):
guys have some real nerve expecting us to already pay
more money when they want us to also continue to
donate to the NIL, but like they know, you'll do it,
and if you want, somebody else will. So college sports
around here, I mean we are a college market. Obviously
we love the NFL, and I know there's plenty of
pro sports fans around here too, But like when it

(22:14):
comes to most fans of sports that have a team
that they really have an emotional connection to, like in
our market here, especially Louisville, I'd say ninety five percent
of them, it's either Louisville or Kentucky, UFL, or UK,
and it's you know, you're sad as hell when they lose,
you're happy as hell when they win. And if you

(22:36):
know they need support to pay players like you'll probably
try to find it made a way to make it
work as best you can, because because it's something that
you care a lot about, that's very special to you.
So I don't knock anybody who finds ways to donate
that whatever money they can. And I don't really you know,
like I don't. I don't really have a hard time
dealing with universities who ask them to pay whenever like

(22:56):
they know they will. So we can certainly get into that,
and I've got a lot of things I want to
get into today still, some recap from the overall weekend
of college football, a look at some of the big
games we've got coming up this weekend, and you know,
some other nonsense. That's what we like to do every
now and then on this show. Nonsense. It's not probably
not a great way to describe a show that you

(23:17):
want people to really enjoy and like get them to
tune in. But you know, I'm just gonna be honest
with you. There's a lot of nonsense that takes place
here on this show, and to be honest with you,
I wouldn't have it an either way, all right, stick
with us. It is Coffee and Company. We're with you
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me Saturday. I've got my son's football game in the morning,
and then I'm gonna take the whole family to LNN
Cardinals Stadium for some tailgating and uh, you know, enjoy
hopefully what is a victory for Louisville. I won't be

(24:18):
able to stay the entire time because you know, I've
got postgame show, but uh, looking forward to it looks
like the weather is going to cooperate, so that's good stuff.
It also looks as if there's a lot of emphasis
on this game for Georgia Tech. Brent Key had his
press conference earlier today, and this is one of the
quotes from that press conference, courtesy of Chad Bishop, who
covers Georgia Tech for the Atlanta Journal Constitution, says, this

(24:41):
is a champ This is a championship week. Every game
moving forward, we talk about having goals in front of
you and not being and not behind, and that's where
we are. We're not leaving anything at home, I'll tell
you that. So obviously they're already zero to one in
conference play. I'm sorry, excuse me, one in one in
conference play. They did have because they played them in Ireland.
It felt weird. But they do have the win against

(25:02):
Florida State, which, fortunately for Georgia Tech, doesn't really look
like it has any value. Now. It's a conference win,
so there's value in that. But beating Florida State is
probably what many teams are gonna are gonna do this year.
It seems so look, this this is a and there's
no way for me to really if I just you know,
unload and express why I'm so excited about this game.

(25:24):
I know it sounds like I'm really overdoing it, and
it might even sound like I'm forcing it, and I
don't really want that to be the case. It's just
this is a first test for Louisville and that that,
to me is exciting because that's what I want, right.
I don't want to I mean, I don't want to
play games against Austin p and Jacksonville State. I don't
want I don't want to buy week in September. But hey,

(25:45):
that's what the scheduling folks gave us, and that's what
we got to deal with. Also, some of it's Indiana's fault.
I'm being honest with you. It's just the truth. Hey,
we cashed in. How you screwed us?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're three and oh I'm saying Indiana cashed in. Well,
we should have played you, That's true. That's what I'm saying,
Like you all screwed us. We had There's not a
scenario where I can I can see Louisville football on
September twenty first, if any year that late into the
year not having any remote test you know what I mean. Now, again,
buy has nothing to do with Indiana because they don't
have any control over that. But knowing that Indiana looks

(26:16):
like a pretty good team, I would have loved to
have had that game. But it's a shame because it
would have been a way different type of not necessarily environment,
but game that we would have seen it.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And you guys have some momentum right now for sure,
but if you had a knocked off louisll it would
have given even more momentum. Yeah, that's true. And you know,
we'll never know what would happen if these two people
made into a college football playoff. I'm not going to
get ahead of myself, but what if that? I like it. Hey,
I didn't even tell John that's that's actually where I
was about to go. Have you seen that the ESPN? Yeah,
I mean, I know Bill Connelly, we mentioned him yesterday.

(26:46):
It's a little bit of a it's a little bit
of a a little bit of a stretch here with
the headline from of course, Barstool Sports, it says ESPN
is giving Indiana a twenty three point four percent chance
to make the college football playoff higher than LSU, Clemson
and Michigan. It's pretty nuts. So, I mean, twenty three

(27:06):
percent is the FPI percentage. So and this is where
ESPN needs to take the FPI out back and just
put it down like old Yeller, because you have Bill Conley,
who is a respected and like he's got his name
on it. Like he he actually started working in from

(27:26):
I understand, working in sports reporting at SB Nation and
then ended up becoming like this analytical guru that like
everybody wanted, I mean five thirty eight. Was that a
site that ESPN used to have under their umbrella as
far as like analytics. Either way, he ended up getting
snatched up by ESPN and now like to get the
full acts, to get full access of all of his data.

(27:50):
His formula, the SP plus, is that what it's called.
I believe John, Yes, yeah, you have to be an
ESPN Plus subscriber, and I'm a subscriber for a variety
of reasons. But you know, he's he's somebody that they
should be propping up instead of that FPI. Like you
can use his formula to determine the percentage chance of
winning games, So it should be the SP plus percentage

(28:11):
that they show on that graphic, because that's what they do.
Anytime you have a game on ESPN and they're gonna
do a look ahead to your remaining schedule, you're gonna
see that percentage that's next to each game. What that
is is the ESPN FPI formula. They'll give you the
percentage chance you have of winning. And again it's been
I mean, it's shoved in our face. It's ESPN, They're everywhere,
but it's there's many examples that show that this thing

(28:33):
is trash, and I actually think Bill Conley's is not. So.
In fact, if you even, you know, let's say you
wanted to, as an Indiana fan, say the hell with
the FPI, you know you can still go with Bill
Conley because he's got him what, winning nine games this
year something along those lines. Yeah. All right, So this
is not the exact stat that I was asking for yesterday,

(28:53):
but thank you to the person who sent this son.
On the text line, I asked what Jeff Brohms record was,
what Jeff broms you know, history is coming off of
bye weeks. I don't have any numbers as far as like,
has he covered the spread each time he's put his
team on the field coming off of a bye week.
But by all accounts, again just looking at games that
he's play or coached in after a bye week at

(29:13):
Western and at Purdue and a Louisville last year in
the one season, he's typically pretty damn good coming off
of bye week. But this is courtesy of the best
Wager Twitter account. Somebody sent this in on the text line,
Brom is four and oh outright and two and two
against the spread as a double digit favorite at Louisville.
They are double digit favorites against against Georgia Tech on Saturday.

(29:35):
Brom as a double edgit favorite at Purdue twelve and
two outright, nine and five against the spread. So you know,
Bram's statistic at statistics at Purdue are always going to
be wild because again his overall record and great, but
we know that didn't mean anything. The fact that he
wanted any level at Purdue consistently is really is a

(29:55):
sign as to how good of a coach he is.
But him being three against top three opponents when unranked
is a wild Like seems like you really had to
like do a lot of like, you know, it seems
like a cherry pick stat to just make somebody look
good because it's not random, like, hey, what's your record

(30:15):
as a head coach when you were unranked and you
played top three teams, Like it just seems a little much,
But then again, it doesn't make it any less impressive.
You were unranked and you played three top three teams
in that time and you beat all of them. Like
that's insane, that's what he did. So yeah, I'm confident,
you know I I knew this. I knew this would happen. John.
The conversation yesterday really just my opening statement essentially about

(30:41):
this game this week was Hey, this is a real test.
I'm excited for it. I can't wait. I even had
John play music all throughout the show that had some
connection in the title of the chorus to a test,
because it's the first test Loivels had, and I tried
his best to not, you know, be too repetitive, but
I didn't wanted to make it seem as if like
they've got to pass the test to prove to me
that they're any good. And sure enough, you know, people

(31:02):
hear what they want to hear, and maybe I didn't
do a good job of articulating the way I wanted
to but like little bit, I think Lolve was a
good team. Like, if they end up losing, it's not
going to be a loss to where I sit back
and say, wow, I guess they're not as good as
we thought. Now again, you're only as good as your record.
You're only as good as how well you perform on
the field and how many wins you have in that

(31:23):
column and how many losses you have in that column.
But like, I think they're you know, I think they're
better than Florida's like I or Georgia Tech. I think
they they should, they should go in and win. I
think it's I think it makes sense to see them
favor the where they are, So my confidence level is high.
Like I think we'll be doing a post game show
on Saturday talking about a win for Jeff Brown and
this team starting one to zero in league play and

(31:45):
if they cover, who knows, maybe it maybe it's a
good look and win to where people think, Wow, this
Louisville team, they could be the real challenger to Miami,
which everybody seems to think is going to be the
ACC winner. And I think that's a fair thing to
say because they look really good. So I'm confident but
I'm also someone and that it's willing to tell you, like,
we don't have a clue. They have not been tested
in any way, and that's not their fault. That doesn't

(32:06):
mean they're not good. It's just that's the way it is.
So don't think I'm not confident because I am. Damn it,
now you're getting me fired up. Sorry, I'll calm down.
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(32:50):
the community. They've been serving this community for over forty
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just when it comes to getting your pets checked out,
the regular checkups, vaccinations, blood work, that kind of stuff.
They've also kept their doors open twenty four to seven
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(33:12):
but it happens. And I can tell you hand up
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I hope I never do, but I might and I
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around the clock. They've got a doctor on staff and
that's there every day, including Christmas anytime. So again, if

(33:35):
you have an accident with yourself with the human, you
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an accident with your with your pet and you're really
really concerning, you're worried, and it's never happened before, you know,
you might have the instincts to call nine on one
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I'm telling you what to do. That's to trust the
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(33:57):
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have your pets covered in the case of emergency. But
it didn't have to be an emergency. I mean, I'm
sure there are plenty of pet owners that just assume
everything's aokay with their pets and they don't hear them,
you know, expressing pain or you know, not acting like themselves.

(34:19):
But it still makes a lot of sense to get
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we'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing
rolling along on a Tuesday. It's Tuesday, right, it is,
it is, It's Tuesday. It's coffee and company. I know that,

(34:39):
and I know we're feel about Thornton's right here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Pool in the Gang is such
a vibe. Who could listen to this and not be
in a better mood? No, you're dead right on that.
I mean, just good vibes. This funk soul post disco
era is it's a vibe like just let it ride,

(35:05):
good stuff. It's also like, uh, it's the kind of
music this song actually is a perfect example of what
I'm what I'm about to do. Like this actually may
be the song that does exactly what I'm about to say,
which is like you can't help but like want to
move and it just sits and dance. But it's also
someone like myself, the quickest reminder that I'm not I
can't dance cause like my body's trying, you know what

(35:27):
I'm saying, Like it's just impossible not to to to
to move and groove with this, but like I just
know when I'm doing and I look uncomfortable and I
probably look like I'm having some kind of a medical
episode rather than actually any rhythm, no rhythm at all
for me. Unfortunately, that's not something I always blessed with.
All right, it's coffee and company. We appreciate you hanging
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we are fueled about Thornton's. If you didn't know, now

(35:50):
you do, all right, So we got Kendrick Haskins coming
up here at four or five we'll chat with him
like we do each and every week, get his thoughts
on the local teams, among among other things. But the
nil conversation that uh, you know has been has been
out there for I mean I say nil conversation. I mean,
we know it's here, we know it matters, but I

(36:11):
guess the confirmation or the conversation more so, is like
should we be having to pay this as fans? Like,
Am I a bad fan for thinking they're ridiculous for
asking us for more money? And I mean it really
is just your preference. And I see a lot of
national capital j's out there, Dennis Dodd being one of them,

(36:34):
Stuart Mandel that are sharing the salaries of these athletic directors,
that are asking fans to, you know, to to pony
up like Mark Stoops did last year. And you know,
again it's I'm not trying to I don't have a
strong opinion on it. But you know, if if you
work for an entity that is, you know, the University

(36:58):
of Whatever's athletic department, and that athletic department generates a
lot of revenue and you are the one leading it,
I mean you're gonna have a big old fat salary, Like,
that's just that'st business, that's life. So it doesn't make
me angry when I see these universities who are charging
you an oremnalleg for season tickets that doesn't even include

(37:20):
the donation you have to make, and then now they're
asking you to pay the players. Like it doesn't do
anything for me. Is I don't get worked up and
think to myself, all who the hell they think they are?
But anybody who does kind of have that mindset, like,
I mean, I get it. I understand. So it was
reported earlier today that Tennessee their athletic director has informed

(37:41):
football season ticket holders that prices moving forward will include
a minimum ten percent talent fee in twenty twenty five
to help pay the players. Quote from the actual and
for the release that was sent to student to season
ticket holder says, we want to be the leader in
revenue sharing, and you know, Tennessee seems to be in

(38:01):
a really good place with nil and I think, look,
Tennessee has been such a miserable fan base for so long,
especially in football, that like, they'll pay, they'll they'll they'll
find a way to make it work because they care
about ut so much and they now know, and this
is the truth. By the way, Tennessee is the perfect
example of a program that if NIL didn't exist, they'd
have to cheat to win, and they were doing it
with the McDonald's bags of money with Jeremy Prue right,

(38:24):
because they don't. You know, they don't. They have a
big fan base, but you you couldn't monitor. Like monetizing
your fan base didn't help you get players before NIL existed,
Now it does. You got a ton of fans and
a lot of money, like Louisville basketball. I think we'll
be you and they already are. By the way, Pat
Kelsey had a nice had a nice briefcase of money
to use when he was building this roster because of NIL.

(38:45):
Because we care, right, So I'm fat. I wish I
had a stronger opinion on it, but I you know,
I'll be honest with you, I really don't what.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Would be the difference between them just not saying that
this is going to be a ticket or a talent
fee and then just increasing prices and not saying anything.
I know it's not transparent, but without that, but that's
saying that, then you don't have the fan.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's a really good question with it. It's a really
good question because I think the image, the perception you're
trying to create here is you want everybody to know
we care about paying our players, and we're we're going
to actually make our season ticket holders put up some
money too, because you want you want the perception to
be that you got bags of money to throw around

(39:31):
right now. If this is really just a cause, again,
the talent fee ten percent, I mean that probably wouldn't
be there if, in fact, they weren't going to have
to start paying twenty two million a year to athletes,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, you can say
it's because you want to get your payers, play players paid,
and a lot of people probably believe you, but really
it's because you're now going to have to fill a

(39:52):
bill you didn't have to you didn't have to pay.
So I do think it's Tom Jorge was a great example.
Tom Jurdge. It wasn't he wasn't using his own money
when he was out here paying coaches insane salaries that
other schools wouldn't. But Tom Jurdche one of the many
things he did that was really impressive is that he
established the reputation within his space of being an athletic

(40:15):
director at a university that he will pay whatever. He's
not going to lose a coach because of money. And
even if you know it means the account runs low
and you really got to scramble. That's a good that's
a good part of your brand to be very out
there that you will pay. You will find a way
to make money. You're not going to go cheap. You'll pay.

(40:36):
It matters when you want to go get coaches, and
it certainly matters now whenever you got players that know, hey,
I'm going to be I'm you know, I'm going to
factor in a lot of things when I make this decision,
and money's going to be one of them. So I
once this settlement is approved, which it's likely going to
be approved, schools would and then this is what I
this is what I hate about how it's worded. Schools

(40:56):
would be allowed to pay about twenty two million a
year dad athletes beginning in the twenty twenty five to
twenty six school year. Can we just get rid of
the word alit? Like I guess legally they're not forced
to do it, but you're either in or you're out,
And I think you have to have your brand as
an athletic department. If you want to compete at a

(41:17):
high level and you want to win high you want
to I mean, I don't know. I just I think
right now it's it's it's a wait and see thing
for a lot of these athletic departments as far as
how they make it all work. But your itering out
if you are not out there publicly letting it be
known that you're gonna go to twenty two million a
year because you care about paying players. I just think

(41:39):
it's gonna be hard time for you to go get players,
not to say you can't pay them anything at all.
So I think the real divide where it's going to
turn into one aspect of college sports is essentially absolutely
pro sports, and the rest of it is kind of
pro sports, but not to that level. Like I think,
this settlement, when it's in place, is going to really
create the divide more than any thing that's happened up

(42:00):
to this point. All right, quick break, we'll come back
on the other side. Kendrick Haskin's gonna join us from
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