(KMN) 6.25: Fully in Effect - Hour 4

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you, John. It is eight oh four. In fact,
now it's eight oh five. It was aight o four
when I said it, but there's a slight delay in
live radio. I think a lot of you know that,
and there's actually a bigger delay of your streaming, so
I would have been a liar.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's eight o five. It is Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Its morning news here our news radio eight forty whas
Nick coffee with you. We're gonna be joined coming up
by Roory O'Neal in roughly twenty five minutes. We'll get
the latest as it seems as if things are going
to be slowing down, which is which is what we want,
because the ceasefire is finally in full effect, after it
seemed laid into Monday evening into Tuesday morning that we

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were heading in that direction, and I guess maybe we were,
but there were some roadblocks along the way, if you will, right,
you had some final jabs from both sides. But it
now sounds as if we fully have ceasefire, and the
situation between Israel and Iran, I'm sure is still contentious,
and I doubt that they're making a rangements to get

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together and you enjoy each other's company, But the development
in the last I guess seventy two hours is a
positive one. I don't think that's I don't think that's
out of line at all. And I don't have a
problem admitting this. Maybe I shouldn't, but when it comes
to the overall coverage of this, I think you can

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be somebody that doesn't I shouldn't say you don't care,
but I'm sure there's people that don't care about the
war between Israel and Iran, and the only care if
the United States is involvement is going to impact them.
And I think a lot of people, understandably so would
view this big piece of news that of course is
the most talked about thing in the world as something

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that they don't really have any control over. So they're
going to live their life and just not give a
whole lot of time and resources to it because they
can't control it. So I have no problem admitting that.
And you'd ask me as far as the amount of
fatalities casualties, if you will, with the back and forth

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missile attacks from Israel and Iran, I wouldn't have even
known where to start as far as guessing, but I
would have guessed a lot more than what actually took place.
And it's not to act as if well, it's not
a big deal. Only a handful of people died. I mean,
anybody dying is tragic thing, especially if you know it's
because of a conflict that you know, the many in

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these countries maybe don't agree with. But the overall number
here this was as of as of yesterday, that Israel
reported four deaths from Iranian missile attacks and Iran reported
nine from the Israeli strikes. So maybe I'm wrong, Maybe
maybe many would have guessed a lot lower than that,

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but that is the total numbers. So it now sounds
as if there's I mean, again, this is a big
There was a scenario where this could have played out
for a lot longer than it actually did. And as
I said Monday, we're all guessing as far as where
this goes. Anybody that tried to tell you on Saturday
exactly what would play out, either good or bad, either

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Democrat or Republican or somebody maybe even take away the
political affiliation. You just consider if you were against it
or supporting it. You just didn't know. We were all guessing.
But it would not have been a surprise if this
lasted a lot longer than it actually did, so that
is encouraging. But again we'll talk to Rory O'Neil about
that coming up here in about twenty minutes or so.

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So yesterday on with Terry Minors, Tom Jurich joined Terry
to discuss the big event coming up on Saturday morning
where he will be honored and U of L and
the city have decided to name part of Floyd Street
after Tom Jurich, which of course is certainly an honor
that he is worthy of. But he came on to

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talk about it yesterday with Terry, and one of the
things he did discuss, other than just him being humbled
by this gesture, but just the landscape of college athletics,
because man, it has changed a lot just in the
last three four years, but it's changed. It's a different
it's a different world. And that doesn't even really put
it into full com I mean it's to say that

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it's a different role would actually be a massive understatement
as far as the landscape of college athletics now and
what it was when Tom Jurich was was the athletic director.
He's been going from U of L since twenty seventeen
but here are his comments on the current current landscape
of it.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think they're going to be fine. I think everybody's
got to kind of feel their way through this whole thing.
It's different. It's hard to call it college sports anymore.
You know, it's a really it's a professional leagues. And
then they're going to have to treat it that way
because it's a business.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It is a business, and Tom Jurich effectively ran U
of L athletics like it was a pro sports franchise
to an extent as far as just the the corporate sponsorships,
and I mean Tom did a lot of things things
really really well. That that again, as I've mentioned many
times since this news was shared last week by Mayor Greenberg,

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you know his impact on you Havel athletics. It's it's
as he's been as impactful as any individual in the
history of the university when it comes to athletics, just
because of the foundation that was established. So you know,
with that, he did it in a different way. And
I think in the current world and I'm not saying
now as we sit here on June twenty fifth of

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twenty twenty five, I mean Tom's been retired for quite
some time. I'm assuming if he wanted to pursue work,
he could have done it. But I do think the
way in which he did things would have really translated
well in this new in this new era, things that
are really really important fan engagement, you know, raising money,
raising funds, knowing that you got to you know, you

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got to compete at a high, high level, and you
got to sustain that success. I mean that those are
things that are again, are really important now. And that's
those are those are some of the many things he
was really really good at.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
All.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Right, let's get an update on traffickan weather right here
on news radio eight forty whas eight sixteen here Kentucky
and his morning news on news radio eight forty whas. So,
the jury was selected yesterday for the Crystal Rogers case.
And it's not at all surprised that many of the

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potential jurors were having to come clean. And I say
come clean, like they had to admit something that was
a big secret. But yeah, one hundred potential jurors had
knowledge of this case because of the news coverage, true
crime podcast documentaries, or just hearing about it every day.
So that of course led to the jury selection being

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a little different than I would say most cases, but
they did end up getting a jury in place, and
this trial will be covered, I think, nationally in a
way that you rarely see a story from Kentucky. I mean,
it's happened. Obviously, the Breonna Taylor stuff got a lot
of national attention, and there have been some unfortunate things
that have taken place that that falls in that true

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crime genre that is super popular in society. There to
where these stories end up featured, not just with national
news coverage but just different documentaries, podcasts, things like that.
So I think with this trial taking place in Bowling
Green in Warren County, you'll see not just national news
coverage covering it live, but production crews there to to

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once again do some type of a special about this.
Because again that's just that's how That's one, it's a
super popular genre, but also it's this is this this
story is interesting to a lot of people because ten
years have now passed and you also have the the
death of her father that that a lot of people
assume is clearly related to the disappearance of her. And
then some think that the the murder of the the

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office the Officer Ellis who was killed years I mean don't.
I won't claim to know all the answers. In fact,
I know nothing other than what you just see and
read and hear from all the coverage of those that
you know are taken advantage of the interest in this story.
But I mean, it wouldn't shock me if we ever
do get to the point and find out that all
of this is somehow related. But you have an Oxygen

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special that was the disappearance of Crystal Rogers that was
really popular that took place in twenty eighteen. HLN network
did something called Bourbon Town Mystery, and I think it
featured both of those specific stories, not only the Chrystal
Rogers disappearance but also the murder of Jason Ellis. You know,
I'm looking at others see other specific networks that covered

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this to this extent. I mean, still a mystery is
what they called it. It was an investigation Discovery that
was a special about the Crystal Rogers case that came
out in twenty twenty and then also twenty twenty Dateline
NBC they did specials on it. So this will be
probably one of the most covered trials coming from this

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state on a national level, not only with again news coverage,
but also with interest just from people who really, I
mean again, I'm somebody that is at least a very
small factor in this. But true crime is such a
popular and dominant genre right now and has been for
a long time. I don't really see it changing to
where this being a you know, you now actually have
a trial here and you're going to see if, in

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fact the suspect her ex boyfriend, Brooks Howck, who most
assume is guilty of this. I shouldn't say that I
don't know that for certain, but I know a lot
of people do believe that he's guilty. And we'll see
how this plays out. But no doubt a lot of
coverage in Bowling Green, and I know I'm going to
be following along, and I'm sure I'm not alone. All Right,
let's get an update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald coming

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up here in about five minutes. Also, Roryo and Neil
of NBC News going to join us at eight thirty
right here on News Radio eight forty. Whas we've got
about fifteen minutes left here before we hand it off
to Tony and why it is Kentucky is Morning News
on News Radio eight forty whas so Tony Vineddi is
with us now and this state Bill one eighty one

(10:09):
that is now in place in Jefferson County is I
think a bigger deal than a lot of people realize,
just because there's things that just become very that became
very normal over the years when you were a teacher
a coach that now you it's a big, big no no.
So what this does. The Senate bill won anyone, I
should say. It is now in effect, and it restricts

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how public school employees, volunteers, coaches can can communicate with students.
So no texting, social media, no third party app communications,
and everything now has to be done through traceable communication methods.
And sounds like the school systems are putting their own
version of whatever that platform is going to be. But
JCPS staff, as of until August first, they must use

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only JCPS email or communicate with parents directly. But starting
August first and on, j CPS will have their adopted
standardized traceable canmunications. Everybody within the state has until August
fifteenth to comply with this new law. So obviously there's
a reason this is happening. Is because there's way too
many people within the school system. Rather it be coaches, teachers,
maybe both volunteers who coach but don't work at the

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school that have crossed the line that you simply cannot cross,
and a lot of them have ended up going to
prison for that. But now, if the example I gave
earlier Tony was if you had a great game and
I'm your coach, I can't tweet out that you had
a great game and tag you on Twitter and maybe
you know have coaches see that you had a good game.
I think the notion that you can't text a player

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directly is just going to be a bit Again, it's
just athletics. That's the only way I'm looking at it.
When I think of school, I think of athletics. That's
just that was a big part of my of high
school for me. But like a coach, not being able
to communicate with a standard text message, hey I'll meet
you at the gym for a workout, or hey tell
your teammates you're the captain, practice is going to be delayed.
Like you now, not only can't do that, you will

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be in major trouble if you do.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
It takes a couple of idiots to make to do
this as it's all it is always just to one
or two idiots that that do the wrong thing. You're
you're texting uh inappropriate things, maybe to a female athlete,
or you're texting. They had a problem in grade school
football twenty years ago where there was a coach texting

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other UH players on the teams of that they play,
and they were going back and forth with smack talk
and it was okay. So that's where it can go wrong.
Where it can go right is a special practice. Hey,
you need to work on your on your going to
your left, so you know, text me meet you, meet
me in the gym at at six in the morning, bam.
So then we're there. It's not the whole team, it's

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just that guy. Yes, it makes it more difficult, but
this is the world we live in to where litigation
and lawsuits and all that. So now they're just covering
their butts uh trying not to get sued because a
couple of idiots just take it too far.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Because what do we do with sports? Take it too far.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
So it sucks and the other slight or the other
problem with this is most people think, how do how
do high school kids get Division one offers. A lot
of it is your coach promoting you and sending you
out right, That's that is a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
So it's it's a huge part of it. And here's
the thing. Most college most kids who want to play
college athletics that are well aware they're not going to.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Be not just a vision on any any it's way
more important.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
And in fact, you won't You won't be able to
get on the radar of an AI program or a
Division II school if your coach is not really.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Putting at work to do that and advocating you for you.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Going back to nineteen eighty three, All the Right Moves
with Tom Cruise, that was the entire point of the
movie was he had gotten out with his coach and
he the coach was promoting all the other players but him,
and he wasn't getting the college scholarship. Well, that hasn't
changed high school coaches, especially in football and basketball, if
they're not promoting you to the college co which is

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tell me on your team, who can play with us,
and if they're not promoting you, you're out.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You're out. So that is an issue. But again blame blame.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
The people are just we call it too passionate about sports,
and they are you need some of these people that
are too passionate about sports.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
But well, this is the problem.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
It can have. Like playing basketball in high school did
not do anything for me, like nothing as far as
like the actual playing the sport did anything for me
in life. But the experience and what I got from
it was to this day has been a huge impact
on my life.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I was.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Really close with my high school coach and know a
lot of people were. And now you you can still
do that. It's gonna be there's gonna be some limitations
to it. It'll be an adjustment for a lot.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Here's the other difference is before if you walked onto
the field at Trinity or a Bullet East or wherever
as a freshman, that's the first time the coach is
the meeting you. Now high schools are like college used
to be. They know you from sixth grade, fifth grade
because they're recruiting the best kids out of fifth, sixth, seventh,

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and eighth grade to get on your team, especially basketball,
because it's all the team is already set when we
walk on as a freshman because there's tryouts, but they
au the team already.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, the coach already knows you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
There's a system in place before you go to the
ninth grade.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
So there's relationships there where, text messages with parents and
cell phones. I think it's I think it tries to
just like any policy, it tries to have a good intention,
but it'll end up hurting the majority of kids. And
it's relationships with their coaches and parents with the coaches, And.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
It goes back to where we started here during the conversation.
There's a few bad apples, and again there's been way
more than a few. I don't want to act like
it's just limited and that we shouldn't they shouldn't be
taking this action because way more don't cross that line,
but enough have to where I think those who don't
even think about the athletics component here they just say, well, yeah,
it makes sense. Why would a teacher need to be
texting a fifteen year old on his on his cell phone? Well, again,

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there are there's there's Again, I think there's If it's
not something that was part of your experience throughout your
days in school, you may not you may may not
realize it.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But yeah, and uh, this is a shocker to people.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Uh, there are inappropriate conversations at practice and things that
are said that are not politically correct, especially in sports
like football, basketball, hockey.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I mean there there's kind of them.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
It might be all of the girls basketball probably is
an inappropriate conversations at practice and all that. Right, Well,
let's say you take that conversation to a text. Somebody
else reads it. Now it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
why is he texting that? Well, it was a joke
and somebody said something about somebody else, or you know again,
sometimes legislation has a good, good intentions, but it then yeah,

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in the end, and in the end it hurts everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yep, Tomorrow when we have some time, I have to
fit what are you doing with Aaron Rodgers? Or you
cannot like Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, as a Pittsburgh Steeler fans, and Sell was six
years old and Lambert, you know, he threatened to kill
a quarterback and Jack Lambert I had no teeth in
the front. I said, Okay, I'm a pisperst Heeler fan.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
This is gonna be feast or famine. He's either gonna
walk in and rock it out or he's gonna be
a complete disaster.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You're gonna cheer for him because you're a fan. I
get all that, but man like, it'd be hard to
cheer for that guy, even if my team's winning, because
I can't stand him and his mysterious wife that he's
now claiming he wants privacy.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He's not gonna.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, you clearly put it out. There's people he craves
attention so badly, and his nonchalant just I have so
much on it. He's just on a different level intellectually
than us. It just irritates me. Yeah, all right, we're
out of time. Tony Dwater coming up next.