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All right, let's get the six am hours started, shall we?
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Good morning? It is a Wednesday edition of Kentucky and
This Morning News here on news Radio eight forty Whas
Nick Coffee. That's me and you can take us with
you wherever you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app.
Also listen live at whas dot com. So there was
a lot of celebration going on yesterday, not only in
Barchtown when it comes to those that were just happy
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to see the Christal Rogers family get justice, which they've
been wanting for the last ten years. And obviously as
far as finding out specifically what actually happened to her,
will they get those answers? Ever, that remains to be seen.
I would imagine an appeal could be could be in
play here for Brooks Howck, but only time will tell.
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But certainly a big day as far as just seeing
the jury decide to bring in a verdict of guilty
for both Brooks Howck and Joseph Lawson and life sentences
the recommendation when it comes to Brooks how Can. I'm
not surprised, however, it was hard for me to not
make it and I never wanted it to sound as
if I was of the belief that these two weren't guilty,
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I wasn't there in the courtroom. I wasn't on the jury,
So I don't know. Maybe I'll never know what my
decision would have been had I been there. I likely
believe that it would have been me, agreeing with those
that were on the jury that decided to convict these
two of this crime. But there are countless cases, I'm
sure where if you compare the actual evidence that was there,
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it was hard for a jury to convict. I mean,
I went and looking at it last night and I
ended up spending way too much time doing it. But
if you go look at similar and there's ways you
can do it again, AI is a powerful tool. But
if you look at previous trials where the evidence going
against the person that's on trial is very similar to
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what was at play here, I mean, I don't have
a success rate as far as the prosecution in those
previous trials, but there are many whether it was just
not only do you have some that were found not guilty,
some you couldn't even get the charges to stick. And
again I don't say that in defense of them. It
just there was more worry than I think I realized
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from the just the public that these two may get
away with it, and it's nice to know that they're
not going to get away with it. And there's others
that were involved that will probably be worried moving forward
if their days coming. As far as an indictment, because
throughout the trial it was made pretty clear that both
Nick Hawk, the brother of Brooks Howk, and his mother Rosemary,
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their mother, Rosemary, I should say, they're listed as unindicted
co conspirators. So I could tell just by the reaction
from and again not just people in that community, but
just people who followed this for a while. I mean,
this is what seemingly everybody wanted, because despite not being
in the courtroom during this trial and being on the jury,
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I know I'm one of many that assumed these two
were were guilty and needed to be needed to be
held accountable. But when you look at the actual evidence
that that was circumstantial, but still it's just impossible to
think of, you know, if I'm in the shoes of
somebody on this Jerry, and I'm hearing the defense, it's
hard for me to even take them serious. As far
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as just some of the some of the explanations as
to as to why you know the cell phone records right, like,
prosecutors made it clear that the self the calls and
tower pings showed that how was at his farm, not
on business as he claimed during the evening of her disappearance.
I mean just claiming that. I don't know the specifics,
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but just the defense was, well, you know it's it's
it's a Wi Fi paying and not a cell tower paying. Well,
and again, you got to be consistent if you're gonna lie,
and clearly his his lies didn't didn't hold up because
you know, he said some things as far as just
what took place the day of the disappearance the day after,
and that ended up just not being true. And again
that doesn't prove anything, but it certainly makes you look very,
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very suspicious. And then there was a lot of testimony
throughout the trial as far as just what people heard
being discussed among rather it be the Lossons or the
Hawk family, but not as much. Maybe I'm wrong, but
I don't remember there being a whole lot of testimony
that included things overheard by the Hawk brothers. It was
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the mother and of course the Lawsons who ended up
being conspirators in this whole thing, and certainly they're going
down with Halck as well. So again a pretty quick decision. Nobody,
no murder, weapon, no DNA, but the jury after nine
days and then just four hours of deliberation, they found
they found enough in their mind to say guilty. And
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as you heard in our recent newscast from John Shannon,
this is and over. I guess there's no way to
know as far as what's coming next, but I think
with this conviction they probably feel pretty good about moving
forward or at least heading in the right direction to
bring charges to others. All right, we've got an update
of traffic and whether coming your way. Bobby Ellis, we'll tell
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us what's the latest on traffic. And I didn't see it.
It just popped off the screen here in front of me,
but WKY looked as if they had a live look
at some real traffic. So Bobby Ellis will give us
the latest on that. We'll take a look at Matt
Melosovitch as forecast from WKY, and didn't take long for
Donald Trump to question why people seem to be worried
about this Epstein fella. So we'll get to that and
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more right here on Kentucky and This Morning News News
Radio eight forty whas So, yesterday, President Trump defended the
recent decision by the DOJ to just say, well, nothing
to see here, it's over. No more documents would be released,
and the Epstein investigation, we're washing our hands of it.
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In fact, he wasn't asked the question. It was Attorney
General Pam Bondi that was asked, but Trump interjected and
the question was asked yesterday, and I just send your
are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
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people still talking about this guy? That's great? That is unbelievable. So,
I mean, I'm not totally shocked to see that he
was in support here, because if he wasn't, it wouldn't
have played out the way that it did. Right, Let's
be real, and I think this is way more complex
and messy than anybody realizes as far as just what
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the outcome would be if, in fact, they just released
documents that we don't even really know if they exist.
Which that's a whole other layer to this is who
would keep a ledger, Like, what kind of I mean,
pardon my French, what kind of dumb ass would would
document I mean, are people as much as you think
it's delusion to assume that there's nothing to see here
and this, you know, two people that were you know,
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charged and sent to prison for a sex trafficking ring.
I mean, we're supposed to just believe that that they
traffic no one and there weren't victims because apparently there
was nobody that was involved in it on the on
the side of you know, taking advantage of these victims.
And again that's just it's insulting our intelligence to have
anybody believe that. It's also, though, I think, an insult
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to intelligence to think that somebody involved in this would
literally just have a little notebook where where they're taking
notes and recording all this awful stuff that clearly they
used all their power, influence and influence to try to
keep a big secret. So what I have found to
be really fascinating, and probably more so than anything just
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because it's very very rare for this to happen, but
we are united Americans seem to be on the same
page with this as far as regardless of your political affiliation,
you don't believe that this was handled the right way
and that we deserve to know more about what went on, right,
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I mean, I don't care if you're a Republican Democrat whatever.
It does seem as if there's a lot of noise
coming from all directions, all sides, both sides of the aisle,
and everywhere else. As far as just saying, come on,
like you think we're stupid here, So just because you
are somebody that was on that you had, there's document
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did Look, we don't even need these lists that may
not exist or anything like that, or any files that
may not exist, because clearly there are people that were
tied to Jeffrey Epstein and some I think you might
believe would be involved in the awful things that Epstein
was involved in over the years. But then there's others
that you might believe it. But like, it may not
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be fair to just put that out there. So I
think the decision to just turn over, like if in
fact there are things that exist, meaning a list and
just other file files, turning that over that could lead
to I mean, it could ruin lives of people who
don't deserve that, and that's something that you can't just
do without thinking of potential consequence. But again, that's my
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big takeaway, is that we're so divided in really every
aspect of life, seemingly this day and age. But everyone
seems to say, and I'm sure others are more consumed
by it than most, but move on. Nothing to see here.
That's an insult to our intelligence, even if we don't
have much, it's an insult to what little we may have.
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All Right, let's get an update on the trappig and
weather out there in Kentucky in and also we'll get
another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald right here on
news radio eight forty WHS. Thank you very much, John Shannon.
It is Kentucky in its morning news here at six
thirty six Nick Coffee. That's me John, all on alongside.
And if you are getting your day started, and you are,
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let me make sure I get this correct because we've
got some big time traffic that is out there this morning.
It started about an hour ago as an accident on
the Waterson eastbound just past Breckenridge Lane blocked the three
left lanes, which we're talking in the five am hour.
It looks as if it's a parking lot there, so
I'm not sure how much progress has been made, but
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as of the last in the last ten minutes, it
looks as if those lanes are still are still blocked.
So in fact, is this the same area? This says
this was a crash on I sixty four eastbound the
ramp to Hurstbourne Parkway, which is blocking all lanes. So yeah,
if you are, if you're on sixty four eastbound, if
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you're a sixty four east Waterson eastbound that area, be
prepared because it looks like there's some real delays going on.
So not sure what you can do about it if
you're just now finding out and you haven't given yourself
extra time, but just be advised. Alright again, it is
six thirty seven here Kentucky in this morning news news
Radio eight forty whas. I am sure I'm not the
only one who has signed up for a trial of
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something thinking, oh, I'll just utilize the free week that
I get and then i'll come back and cancel and
it won't cost me anything. I've done that many times
and been wrong, meaning I procrastinate, forget about it, and
I end up paying for something that I really don't need.
And this is clearly a thing because one there's companies
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now that are that are I don't even I don't
know how successful they are as far as gaining customers,
but it's become somewhat of a competitive industry where you
have people sign up for your service just like they
do all the other ones, and the service is in fact,
to cancel your subscriptions to things that you don't need.
So yesterday and Appeals Court blocked the FTC's click to
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cancel rule, which again keeps subscription cancelations a complete pain
in the ass for America. And I mean, I guess
if you're one of these companies that makes it as
difficult as possible, I mean, in a way, you're I mean,
let's be real, you're like, you know what you're doing.
You're you're just hoping that it'll become such a pain
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that people will unsuccessfully try to cancel, meaning they won't
be able to figure it out, or they just won't
go through all the time, because it's it's a hassle.
And for a lot of people, I don't know, four
ninety nine a month or something like that, maybe even
I don't know, nineteen ninety nine a month, that's not
an insane amount of money in the grand scheme of things.
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But if you've got enough people that are just paying
that because they forgot about it, and they're thinking, well,
nineteen ninety nine a month, five to ninety nine a month,
whatever it is, that's not really a big deal. I
can afford that it's no issue. Well, if you're that company,
like your profits, imagine imagine the percentage of the money
that you make that is coming from people that quite
literally forgot they ever signed up for your service. So
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I mean, it's it's I wish the click to cancel
rule would not have been blocked, but it has been
blocked because apparently the eighth the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals,
they ruled that the FTC skipped a requirement, skipped a
required economic impact analysis for the rules affecting over one
hundred million dollars. So it's been put on hold and
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we'll see what plays out. But again, i'm if you
are somebody that is putting together a subscription based service,
whatever service it is that you provide, and you are
not making it very difficult to unsubscribe, good for you
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because you're not trying to take advantage of people. Now again,
if you actually, I mean, it'd be impossible for them
to be able if you don't sign a contract, they
can't make it impossible for you to unsubscribe and move
on from it. But clearly there are people who I
would imagine part of their job for these for these
companies is to put together like usually you want to
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put together processes that make things very simple for your
customers because that's a way in which you can have
a high rate of satisfaction when it comes to your customers.
But for business, for the bottom line, you make it
a complete pain in the ass, and that's you're probably
looked at as if you're doing a good job by
your employer. But it has been, uh, it has been
put on pause for the time being. And I'm a
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procrastinator and just in general, it's one of the many
flaws I have, believe it or not, I'm not perfect, guys,
But John Alden, I can see you being somebody that
you know every monthly payment you make for any subscription
you have right I do. And because you're responsible unlike me,
when you brought this story up, I immediately thought of
a panic attack about apples. So Apple TV was a
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pain in the ass to get rid of when it
comes to subscriptions now, and that's the only one that
really comes to mind for me. But yeah, this is
definitely an issue. It's wild how great they are and
how in a matter of seconds they could take your
money but in order to stop being able you know
the other end of it, man, it's just a you know,
there's like doing your tax, yes, and it's insulting tact
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as if like that's not intentionally an issue for people
because they just hold on to hope that you'll forget
about it and not worry about it or just be
defeated in the overall problem. All right, we've got another
update of traffic and whether coming your way, Bobby Ellis.
We'll give us the latest as it looks like we've
got a couple of different traffic incidents out there, and
also we'll get the latest from Matt Melosa, bitch of
WOKY with the forecast today right here on news Radio
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eight forty WHS. I am looking at the television screen
right now here Woky's Morning News. This is WHS this
Morning News. But we've got our partners here on the
screen and they are showing what appears to be a
parking lot on Waterson eastbounds, So just be prepared if
you're out. Don't know exactly what type of accident was
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that led to this, but just be mindful of that.
Maybe you can let your employer know ahead of time
you might be a little bit late. Not sure if
that'll help you, But yeah, looks as if we've got
some traffic issues. We'll get another update to see if
there's improvement coming up here in about four minutes or
so with Bobby Ellis. It is Kentucky and in it's morning
news here on news Radio eight forty whas we'll get
another update on sports coming up in about eight minutes
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with Scott Fitzgerald. So the WNBA has been a more
popular product for one specific reason in the last couple
of years, and that is because of Caitlin Clark. And
when I when I pick up a level of delusion
that I think is just unbelievable, it's hard for me
to not get consumed by it because I try to think, Okay,
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what am I Am? I the one that's crazy here.
So right now, the WNBA, in the WNBA Players Association,
they are locked in a contentious battle here with revenue
sharing being the biggest sticking point when it comes to
a new CBA with the WNBA, and I mean the
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latest from the union president of the WNBA, because the league,
of course, had a counterproposal to what the the WNBA
plaguere Association filed. They you know, here's a quote from
somebody within the Plague Association. It's a slap in the face.
And another player said it's a polar opposite of what
their demands are. So what I what I just can't
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quite I can't quite figure out, is that if you
want more than what you're getting, that's normal. That's that's
I mean, who wouldn't want more benefits, more of a
salary like That's just that's that's an obvious, that's a given.
But the notion that they're being taken advantage of and
they're not being treated fairly is what I just think
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is is wild. So I mean, let's just be real.
I mean the WNBA, I mean, the demands here are bold,
and they have I think shown a lot of delusion
in the last couple of years, because I just don't
know how anybody could look you in the eye and
tell you that the reason that the league has seen
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growth as far as viewership and even popularity is because
of one player. That's nobody's fault. That's just the reality
of it. Anybody claiming that it's not that is a
delusional human being. And again, the WNBA players voting her
the ninth best guard in the league. I mean if that,
I mean that's lappable. So when you have really one
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single phenomenon being so solely instrumental in the viewership and
financial growth of the league, if you're the WNBA, I
mean you can't. I mean you can't go in and
act as if this is sustainable because it'd be one
thing if you had a bunch of different Caitlin Clark's
in the mix, but she moves the needle like nobody
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I have ever seen in any specific sport. So, I
mean it's one thing to want more again, but the
push they want as far as you know, revenue sharing,
it's it's laughable. I mean in the NBA, the NFL
players get basically fifty percent of the revenue, and that's
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not I mean the WNBA. I mean, yeah, the wa
is estimated nine point three player revenue share. It just
reflects the reality that it's a league that has been
propped up for decades by the NBA subsidizing it and
other external investments. And I just this notion that there's
money being made from the product, that it's a WNBA
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and the players are you are being left out and
not getting a fair share. Like that's not Planet Earth,
that's not reality. And the only hope that the league,
I think, ever, is really profitable, unfortunately is And this
isn't about supporting or not supporting women's basketball. These are
just facts, and to me they're rather obvious. All Right,
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we got another update of traffic and weather coming your way.
Makes you pay attention to Boby Ellis because it looks
like we've got a messy morning here when it comes
to traffic in certain areas. Stick around right here on
New's ready to eight forty whas