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Speaker 2 (00:24):
You know, Pennstation not the only one that's all about
good taste. We're about good taste here too, at Sincy
three sixty. And that's why we talk to our friend
James Rapine, who is at the practice fields right now
adjacent to Pei Course Stadium, with eyes on Joe Flacco,
the Bengals new starting quarterback. James, how is Joe looking?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
He looks like he's getting warmed up, Buddie and walking
out of practice now he's getting warmed up. He looks
exactly how you'd expect a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Pellow, a franchise quarterback to look. When you heard that
not only are the Bengals acquiring Joe Flacco, but Joe
Flacco is starting the game on Sunday against the Packers,
what was your immediate reaction?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
What weird timeline are we in? You know, I think
that's the first one. Like it's a very unique situation.
I mean, I'm walking back right now from the practice
fields and I just see that the Joe Burrow parking spot,
and I'm like, how did we go from Joe versus
Joe week one to this?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Look, there's something that It's something the Bengals had to do.
They had to do something. And when I see the
name Sam Howell, for example, well, I would prefer Joe
Flacco because I do think he's physically Like everyone's talking
about how he can't move when when was Jake Browning?
Michael Vick like that was his pocket movement such a factor.
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I think that Joe Flacco's arms is unique and so
it gives them a chance, which, given how the last
three games have gone, all you can ask for is
a chance.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Did Zach Taylor hint to how the offense might be
different with Joe Flacco than Jake Browning? Do you think
it's going to be a very vanilla version of the
offense considering the turnaround?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I wonder that. I think I don't necessarily think it
has to be because Joe has been there, done that,
and I think that gives him the edge over some
of these other options. Now, terminology wise, is it going
to be perfect on Sunday? It's not. There's just no
way to do that. But you're dealing with the guy
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that has seen it all, that has played on the
biggest stages, that has been on the road countless times.
You know, I've played the Bengals here at pay Corpse
Stadium what twenty times or so? So like, he has
used to road environments, loud crowds, all of those things.
So do I think that they can get by with
it and figure it out on the fly. I do
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because he's that experien riience and comes with a good
attitude in mindset. So I don't think that's going to
necessarily be a major issue on Sunday. But whether or
not that helps them in the win lost columns a
whole nother story.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's the thing, because you're balancing, Okay, they did something
that's better than nothing, but do the Bengals plus Joe
Burrow equal hope? Well, Joe Burrow, I'm going to do
that a lot me too.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I typed, I literally just tweeted out something and type
Joe Burrow and realized that caught myself and put in
Flacco like it's it's going to happen because the Bengals
are banking on Joe again. It's just a different Joe.
And uh yeah, I do think there's hope. Now, this
hope can fade very very fast. A couple of weeks ago,
there was hope that a Jay can hold it down.
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We've been in this position before.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We're two and zero.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He battled back, and we came back and handled handed
the Jags, which happens to be their only loss of
the year. Now, like that was the mindset with these
guys going into that Minnesota game, and well that didn't
work out, and then it didn't work out the next week,
and then it didn't work out the next week. So
they they they're gonna rally around Joe Flacco. Whether or
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not that gets huge results, we'll see. I will say this.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Though, it will be better.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm confident in that, Like there is no way. Like
Jake Browning was so bad and I hate this for
him because he's a nice guy. And he was walking
out probably three minutes before Joe Flacco did for practice
more I'll wait and then he's walking out And that
was probably the loneliest walk ever because he knew who
we were waiting on. And it's like, man, it was
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so bad. He missed Jamar wide open. And everyone blames
the offensive line, but if you really look, there were
plays to be made the past couple of weeks and
they weren't made. And that has to change. Whether or
not it will result and wins, I don't know, but
that part needs to change because the Bengals they should
still be an entert hating football team on offense, and
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they've been anything but over the past three weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Do you think there were some positives to take away
from the offense as a whole, from the way that
they played against Detroit or do you feel like it
was just garbage time Detroit was injured and it just
kind of happened.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, that it was bad gravage time. I barely counted.
I mean, I feel like the Lions were kind of sleepwalking.
You know, they knew early on in this game what
they were dealing with that it just wasn't a true threat,
and you didn't see them go forward on fourth down.
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They were just kind of going through the motions. Even
Dan Campbell I thought to an extent, you know leading
the way on the way he does. It wasn't as aggressive,
So yeah, I think I didn't put a ton of
stock in that, And that's why a couple of weeks
ago I was on the look to find another option
at quarterback, just in case Jake doesn't work, so you
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have another option because you can't turn to Brett Ripping.
I wasn't calling for Brett Rippon on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I was, you.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can't sure, and I think a lot of people were.
But I know how that would have looked too and
it wouldn't have been any better. And so that's that's
why this was a necessary move for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
What about defensively, because you know, I felt like they
were okay, they weren't great, The Lions were sleepwalking a
little bit. But were there any positives that you took
away from the defense that maybe they can use going
into Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah. I think that's why this move makes sense to me,
is so you can evaluate everyone like you may lead
to winning games and you're hoping you catch lightning in
a bottle and you get the twenty twenty three Flacco
impact where you go on a run here and you
get the better Joe Joe Burrow back with a chance
at making a playoff run. But regardless, this defense, I
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don't even know how you evaluate him, because I think
I'm encouraged by what I've seen over the past few weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Great and they've been put in such awful spots that
it's really tough to blame them for anything, really, And
I do think they lack game changers. Outside of Trey Hendrickson.
There's just aren't many guys that are going to all right,
we need to play here, let's go make it. But
let's see, well, let's see if that's actually the case,
and let's see if the defense could come together when
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they're not looking up at a deficit where this offense
just is incapable of overcoming it. So, yeah, I'm encouraged
by some of the things. I thought the pressure the
other day was a very real thing. They were solid
against the run, but again, I think the Lions were
kind of sleepwalking. And so before I put a ton
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of stock in that, let's see it on a normal
game script. For maybe the Bengals get a lead in
the first quarter, maybe score a touchdown in the first
quarter or first half. It would be nice to see
and evaluate this defense in a normal game like setting,
which we just haven't seen since the Jacksonville game.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And we two. I think it's fair to say that
the Bengals secondary, and specifically their cornerbacks are much maligned.
What do you what's the vibe from that group in
that corner of the locker room when it comes to
their performance. Obviously Cam Taylor Britt not playing well. I
think much was expected out of that group and they
aren't meeting that expectation. What's the feeling you get from
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that secondary overall?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I don't think the secondary has been.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know, dreadful.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think that you're right, Cam Taylor Britt. It's been
tough for him. It's been tough for a secondary that
when you don't get any pressure up front, you're gonna
have to deal with that cover and cover cover. But overall,
like I was encouraged by DJ Turner the other the
other day, I think Dax Hill has played pretty darn
well considering the circumstances and considering the lack of pressure. Now,
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is he a true Pro Bowl game changer? I haven't
seen that, so I think he's a solid starting NFL
corner I have seen that, and so that's what's tough
is you can have multiple solid starting cornerbacks, but if
they have to cover for so long because the pass
rush isn't getting home consistently, or because you're down by
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a bunch of points so you're not going to get
the opportunity to make plays on the ball, well, then
it's really tough to judge. So I think it's a mixture,
a mixed bag because you throw in Cam Taylor Britt
and it's like he's certainly under achieved at this point.
But DJ Turner and Dax Sell, the Michigan guys. I
think you're a big Michigan fan. They've impressed me for
the most part this season.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, and they don't even know what plays are coming.
So that's a big deal for them to be able
to take a step forward with that look ahead to
Green Bay. What's the biggest thing the Bengals have to
do defensively to slow down the in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Man, you know they would say the Generals stop the run,
and obviously you can't let Josh Jacobs go off. You
tend to agree there, But to me, this is sort
of got to be how they play like in a
normal game script. Let's say the Bengals are in the
game and it's ten to seven or thirteen ten or
something like that going into third quarter, create a little chaos,
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get after make Jordan Love throw the ball earlier than
he wants to, or hold the ball longer than he
wants to, and get a strip sack or get a
tackle for loss that puts them behind the change the
big plays like that. I think that's sort of what
they need, which is a high variance because if you're
not getting them, then you're gonna give up a bunch
of yards and you could struggle at times. But like
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my ideal Bengals defense like that, realistically would be a
defense that's opportunistic that cashes in on their chances of
making big plays and that could lead to stop or
turnovers and you go from there. So I would say turnovers,
You're going to have to go on the road and
force multiple turnovers and give this offense extra chances to
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get some momentum and get your rhythm.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
On the other side of the ball. Green Bay is
very good defensively, maybe the best defense the Bengals will
face this season or up unto this point. Offensively, I
know that the bar is very low. It's maybe just
don't turn it over. But is there anything else that
stands out to you of like, Okay, this is a
prerequisite to having a successful offensive day.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, it's so it's so simple, but like, just like
what should the strength of the Bengals be? Like if
you went high level, like the strength.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Of the Bengals, what is it throwing the ball?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's their weapons, right, And so like I'm sick and
tired of like like t Higgins, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Production this year.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's like it's like Chie Wiggins. It's like some random
receiver that you've never heard of, and that's what it is.
And that's not a knock on team, that's a knock
on the offense. That can't be the case. He needs
to be a game changer. They paid him to be
a game changer. He's capable of being a game changer.
Obviously that goes with Jamar Chase. But it isn't just
those guys, Like it's not like Jake was using Mike Sicki. Well,
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up until the other day, andre Yosabash was on a
note cart. Like Chase, Brown has had a down year
compared to where expectations were coming into this season, like
everyone on offense is underachieved. So let your playmakers be playmakers.
And if you can get to that, however you do it,
I don't care if it's under center, shotgun, play action,
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quick screens, quick, get your guys in space, beat balls
with Flacco and the moon ball, Like, I don't really
care how but those guys got to touch the ball
early and often because that's what's going to carry you.
If you're going to go on a run here, it's
going to be the offense. And that sounds insane because
they've scored thirty seven points in three games and all
four of their touchdowns over the last three games came
in garbage time. But that's their reality and I think
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they know that, and that's why they went They got
Joe Flacco because they needed someone that had the arm,
talent and had seen enough in this league to get
the ball to their playmakers. Because if they're going to
go on a run, their playmakers are going to be
the reason.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Why, no doubt about it. James Rapine all all Bengals,
Bengals Talk, Cincinnati Bengals Talk. Run through the gambit here,
what is it? You got me confused?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I know I do. It's all right, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I locked on Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Locked on Bengals, Cincinnati, Bengals Talk. Boom, there you go.
Three headed monster, all right, wonderful headed monster. What they
call that? Joe Flacco, Jamar Chase and t Higgins. The
three headed monster.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That is a monster. Indeed, James, thanks for making some
time for me today. Have a great day. You're the man.
UGHI appreciate you. That is James Rapine from Bengals Talk
dot com. We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll
get into the Reds and what Nick Krawl said when
he met with the media and what that might mean
for the Reds future. That's next. This is Sincy three
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