July 16, 2025 • 15 mins
John Sheeran from A to Z Sports joins the show to discuss the ongoing Shemar Stewart saga and other under the radar Training Camp storylines.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three of Sincy three
to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty. I Mosston Elmore riding
solo today. Big Tone back next week just in time
for training camp as the Bengals will get things underway
next week. We will be there live looking forward to
the coverage from Bengals training camp. So while we get
ready for the last week of the quote unquote off season,
(00:46):
we uh we we look for all the different things
that need to be buttoned up between now and the
start of training camp. And none is more notable than
Shamar Stewart and my guy John Scheron, who I've said
on several occasions is one of my absolute favorite people
to follow on Twitter. I love reading his work on
A to Z Sports and he's become a great friend
of the show and he joins us now and John,
(01:08):
you really got things stirred up yesterday with Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What explain to people what you heard, what you wrote,
and what happened afterwards when it comes to Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
For the record, I was not the first person to
write about this, but I did write about it. What
happened was There is a college football podcast called The
Cover three Podcasts. One of the co hosts is Bud Elliott.
He's well known within college football circles. He said that
a source who is well familiar with Texas A and
M said that Shamar Stewart has been working out at
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Texas A and M during the team's summer camp and
he's been fully quote unquote fully involved within workouts. And
he told Bud that he wouldn't be surprised if he
saw Chamar Stewart back on the team this year, implying
that working out with the team meant that he had
intentions on joint I mean text saying to them again.
And of course this is illogical because he was drafted
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by the Bengals. The Bengals on this rights, he's out
of college. We've never seen this before, so this sparked
a whole conversation about how if Shamar was really considering this,
because he is so at odds with the Bengals over
his contract, he would potentially have to go to court
with the NCAA, with the NFL, which I don't know
if you guys are having anything to do with the
(02:24):
NFL right now, but they're in a.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Lot of legal trouble right now.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What's going on, so they got a lot of stuff
on their play anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I don't know if Shamar was trying to weeezl.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
In there, but that was the report that he reported
on that podcast, so we covered it Creative the Sports.
It got picked up by other places as well, and
then Kelsey Conway, who was a great Bengals reporter for
since doany dot Com, confirmed that Shamar Stewart is not
practicing with texting them the team. He was practicing there
at just at the facility because he lives down in
Texas when he's not in Cincinnati preparing for Bengals training camp,
(02:53):
which was definitely one of the possibilities that we laid
out in the article because again it was a report,
wasn't confirmed, but that that's what was going on, and
I think the most important thing here, Austin is that
the fact that this was the possibility and everyone kind
of immediately jumped to that, it kind of speaks to
what the situation is is right now with the team
in guns.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's what I was about to say, because you know,
as Bengals fans, everybody would just like this to be
buttoned up and done and he shows up a training
camp and starts practicing and he's productive. But for those
of us in the media and at this particular point
in the year, I was like, even sitting on the air,
I was like, I don't even care.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Let's just say that this is true. What exactly would happen?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And you're saying that he would have to take the
NFL to court if let's just for for the sake
of the situation, let's say he wants to return to
Texas A and M he would have to take the
NFL to court and able to do.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That, Yeah, because this is not allowed by any means.
But obviously with the NCULA, like, there's I mean, everything's
on the table legality with litigation, right, So technically he
could be allowed to sit out this entire football season
if he doesn't sign his contract with the Bengals, and
then he could re enter the NFL draft next year
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and then, excuse me, the Bengals would not be able
to allow to draft it, and obviously the Bengals wouldn't
draft him that situation anyways. But that is like, that
is the true doomsday scenary period. It is included in
the NFL CBA. It is not included anywhere that you
can get drafted and then go back to your original
college team. But obviously, you know, in today's world, with nil,
he would have opportunities to make some of the money
(04:22):
that he would lose by not getting you know, the
contract that he would beginning for the Bengals here, and
then he could you know, theoretically recuperate a lot of
that value by going into the NFL the next year.
But again, there is no actual path to doing that
other than just you know, just forcing your way through
the court system. And who knows if you could actually
win that battle. Who knows how long that legal batt
would actually take. I'm not a lawyer, I have no
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expertise in this area. I would imagine it would be
a very lengthy process where it probably.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Wouldn't even get resolved until you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Know, the beginning right after the beginning.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Of next season. So it is a truly like out
of this world idea that was brought up by that.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
But yes, I guess he could theoretically, if that was
his choice, he could theoretically take the the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Court CV do win.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, and you know, I don't want that to happen,
but part of me would be enamored by the idea
of it actually happening and wondering what the fallout would
be at what point, like do you do you see
his side at all? Just eventually just saying all right,
let's just get this over with, Let's get the guy
in training camp, and we'll figure it out from there,
because it doesn't really seem worth it for him at
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this point.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He's the last guy left.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
He is the last guy left.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And I would imagine that with the route that they've
taken by you know, going to the media and through
all these different avenues and channels and the things that
he said, it.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Almost seems like they've dug themselves in the.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Spot where they have to get something out of this,
Like they can't just eliminate the possibility of getting any
concession from the Bengals, which is why I kind of
foresee this taking maybe even longer than the Trey Anderson
situation because of how much that like that they've said,
the fact that he isn't under contract at all, They can,
I guess, in theory, afford to wait this out because
(05:59):
of that situation where he can't technically get fined.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
By not being a team employees.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So I think that they are extremely dug in in
this case, and that is why they're not going to
alleviate from this until they get something in return, whether
that is an advancement on the signing bonus payment or
whatever the case may be. Whatever the negotiables are in
these contracts that are typically boil or played, I would
imagine they're not going to just take nothing at this point.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Talking to John Shearon, a to Z Sports covering the
Cincinnati Bengals the announcement earlier today about Lamar Parrish and
Dave Lapham going into the Ring of Honor, what was
your reaction to that.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Fan's got it right.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like I've been pounding the table for Lamar Parish for
the past two years. I thought that this was also
the right year to get Dave Lapham in because I
think there's been some confusion or maybe some mystery about
the changes coming to the Ring of Honor, and I
can only imagine that they are going to make any
changes about the process. It might get tougher more difficult
for the current nominees or the nominees for this year
(06:58):
to maybe get into the future years. And I think
Dave Lapham definitely deserves it at some point. I'm glad
it is this year, even if his career didn't include
the most accolades beyond just games played and games started.
He is mister Bengal and he is synonymous with the
team more than any player who's ever played for that
franchise before. But I think with Lamar Parrish, he's arguably
the most underrated Bengal in team history. And I think
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that's because he played in the earliest days and he
was only here for a little bit more than half
of his career.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But in those eight.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Years, six Pro Bowls, twenty five interceptions electured with the
ball in his hands. He's often forgotten because he played
on the opposite side of Ken Riley, and I think, honestly,
you know, I don't think a lot of people like
to talk about this because it's not the most comfortable conversation.
But Lamarn Parrish is seventy seven, and this fan base
watched Ken Riley passed away before he got to witness
all of the Ring of Bond and the Hall of
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Fame ceremonies for himself. So I think it's extremely important
for because this fan base has power to put these
guys in this position.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And give them the recognition.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Is important to prioritize some of those guys who really
paved the way for the players that we saw in
the eighties, in the two thousands and everywhere after that.
So I'm really happy that both these guys, who were
both in their seventies get the witnesses for themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, and it makes me
want to pound the table of course for Bob Trumpy
as well, for a number of different reasons. And you
kind of talk too about how underrated Lamar Parrish was,
and I don't know if people understand how much he
and Ken Riley helped one another. Because the quarterback didn't
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have too many places you felt comfortable throwing the ball.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
One hundred percent, Like the game was completely different back then,
and like you know, practicing against Isaac Curtis and who,
of course essentially is still a rule of the against
legal contact, right, But yeah, the game was completely different
and interceptions were a lot more common than they are nowadays.
But even still, I think Lamar Parrish's athleticism it really
transcended his generation. And if he played in the bigger market,
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I think he would have got a little bit more recognition.
But then then again, he did go to Washington and
he got his name out there a little bit more,
and he put together one of the very best here's
a seventh round pick has ever had if you go
by for FOBO references Approximate value metric, he's third all
time for all seventh round picks. Fourth coincidentally is Max Montoya,
who's probably is going to get him the Ring of
Honor here singer rather than later. But completely like like
(09:14):
you said, completely underrated player in a great athlete.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
All right, other thing, John training camp is coming up quickly,
and I can't believe it's already almost here. We know
about Stuart Hendrickson and whatnot, But for you, are there
any kind of under the radar storylines that you're going
to be paying attention to as Bengals training camp gets
underway next week, So I'm actually.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Writing in an article right now.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm previewing the depth chart position by position, and I'm
on cornerback right now, and I think the top four
at this position could go any way possible. I think
with Dak still coming back from injury, it creates a
little bit of a variable as to when he's going
to be able to practice or when he's going to
be you know, he's full sell. Then where they're actually
going to place him at the start of this he
could be the number one cornerback on the outside. He
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could be the next Leon Haul and he's the nickelback
who also plays a little bit on the outside. If
Cam Taylor brid has to earn a spot back after
being benched twice last year, is DJ Turner or Josh
Newton would be the first cornerback off.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
The bench if they're going to stay in these and
you know, in the.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Three cornerbacks sets with nickel, I don't know how to
order these top four guys. I think I have a
decent guess with with Dax being at the top, and
maybe you know, Newton squeezing out that third spot because
of how you know well received he's been through the
offseason program, but I'm really interested to see how these
reps are divvied up.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Between these guys, and I think the scheme.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Is going to be a little bit different where these
guys are going to fallow around other wideouts. I'm not
gonna be stuck on one side of the line spinnitch
and maybe that changes things. But I really don't know
how to order these top four cornerbacks, and I'm really
intrigued to see how they're using training camp.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I was thinking about that too with Cam Taylor Britt
just because I mean, CTB might be the most athletic
player pound for pound on the roster. Is there a
world in which it makes sense for him to be
the nickel guy?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I think yeah, Like I think that, or potentially getting
reps in safety. He played a little bit of safety
in Nebraska as well, just to utilize some of that
downhill athleticism that he has, and I think we kind
of saw a glimpse of that in training camp or
excuse me, in the offseason program where he's following Mikeseki
into the slot. He's making plays out of there as well,
So yeah, like they have options now that they don't have.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Mike Hilden, and it could just be a situation.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Where you handle that position by committee if you don't
have full trust in one guy to handle that spot entirely,
or you want to maximize the athleticism that this group
as a whole really does have. I think Josh Newton
makes sense for that spot because he might be the
most athletically limited of the quartet that we're speaking of,
but he's got the physicality, and so it does camp
teller break right like that. That was what his biggest
(11:43):
strength was when he was first coming onto the scene
in twenty twenty two and twenty three. He was a
great guy at the line of scrimmage. He could press,
he could tackle. Some of that was lost a little
bit last year, but maybe he can find it again
in a new position.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do you think that's going to be the single biggest
difference fans notice in the Al Golden defense compared to
the lu An Rumo defense.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I think it's that and how they scheme up pressures
up front. I think you're you're gonna see a lot
more twists and stunts. I think you're gonna see potentially
guys but in different alignments more often than not. I
don't know if we're gonna see Trey, you know, Hendrickson
when he comes back on the left side more often
than not. But I think that the way that that
he schemes up pressures with man coverage in the back end,
there's gonna be a lot more.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Variation with that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
All the talk has been about how it's supposed to
be more simplified defense and everything, but I think that
in terms of just the coverage packages, you're gonna see
a difference in how they scheme up pressure and how
they compliment that with man coverage in the back end.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
If I gave you a date of September first, before
or after September first, will we have an answer on
Trey Henderson.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm gonna go on a limits before, Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
For whatever reason, I feel like this gets resolved sometime
during the preseason, and I think it's because you're still
in a situation where both sides know it's best for
both of them to get it's something done. The knowledge
of how this has impacted them for the past two
years with Burrow, with Higgins, with Chase, I think there's
(13:09):
been enough time this offseason really just the past couple
of years of the constant dialogue with all this happening,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Think it's going to get quite to that point.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I honestly do think it could with Shamar Stewart because
of how that situation is unsholding.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
But I do think with Trey.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He will he I do believe that he thinks that
he's serious about sitting out games, but I think his
training camp rolled along and the preseason eventually gets here,
he will miss being out there, and I think there
will be a concerted effort to get that done before
it gets really up to the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. John Sheer in
a to Z Sports, thanks so much for your time
here today. What are you working on and how can
people follow along to what you are working on?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, so keep follow along at a Z sports dot com,
Backslash Cincinnati and on YouTube three videos a week at
eighties Sports Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Awesome, John, thanks so much, man.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Thanks awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That is John Shearon a to the sports and again
a wonderful follow John underscore underscore Sharon on Twitter. He
is smart, he's funny and relatable and was described as
a versatile guy. According to Jeff Hobson, which is incredibly
important for anybody in any position, any profession, anytime, anywhere,
(14:24):
to be spoken highly of by Jeff Hobson. Looking forward
to reading more from John and having him on the
show maybe weekly. We'll see, I have to I should
ask him that sometime about getting him on the show
during the season a little bit more frequently. When we
come back. Let's talk to each other. Five one, three,
seven more nine fifteen thirty. I forgot what I was
(14:45):
doing for a minute. ESPN has done their executive lists
where they rank the quarterbacks, they rank the wide receivers,
they rank every position. Let's talk about what they released today,
which was wide receivers, what they released earlier this week,
which was quarterbacks. That's all next. This is Sincy three
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three of Sincy three
to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty. I Mosston Elmore riding
solo today. Big Tone back next week just in time
for training camp as the Bengals will get things underway
next week. We will be there live looking forward to
the coverage from Bengals training camp. So while we get
ready for the last week of the quote unquote off season,
(00:46):
we uh we we look for all the different things
that need to be buttoned up between now and the
start of training camp. And none is more notable than
Shamar Stewart and my guy John Scheron, who I've said
on several occasions is one of my absolute favorite people
to follow on Twitter. I love reading his work on
A to Z Sports and he's become a great friend
of the show and he joins us now and John,
(01:08):
you really got things stirred up yesterday with Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What explain to people what you heard, what you wrote,
and what happened afterwards when it comes to Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
For the record, I was not the first person to
write about this, but I did write about it. What
happened was There is a college football podcast called The
Cover three Podcasts. One of the co hosts is Bud Elliott.
He's well known within college football circles. He said that
a source who is well familiar with Texas A and
M said that Shamar Stewart has been working out at
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Texas A and M during the team's summer camp and
he's been fully quote unquote fully involved within workouts. And
he told Bud that he wouldn't be surprised if he
saw Chamar Stewart back on the team this year, implying
that working out with the team meant that he had
intentions on joint I mean text saying to them again.
And of course this is illogical because he was drafted
(02:03):
by the Bengals. The Bengals on this rights, he's out
of college. We've never seen this before, so this sparked
a whole conversation about how if Shamar was really considering this,
because he is so at odds with the Bengals over
his contract, he would potentially have to go to court
with the NCAA, with the NFL, which I don't know
if you guys are having anything to do with the
(02:24):
NFL right now, but they're in a.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Lot of legal trouble right now.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What's going on, so they got a lot of stuff
on their play anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I don't know if Shamar was trying to weeezl.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
In there, but that was the report that he reported
on that podcast, so we covered it Creative the Sports.
It got picked up by other places as well, and
then Kelsey Conway, who was a great Bengals reporter for
since doany dot Com, confirmed that Shamar Stewart is not
practicing with texting them the team. He was practicing there
at just at the facility because he lives down in
Texas when he's not in Cincinnati preparing for Bengals training camp,
(02:53):
which was definitely one of the possibilities that we laid
out in the article because again it was a report,
wasn't confirmed, but that that's what was going on, and
I think the most important thing here, Austin is that
the fact that this was the possibility and everyone kind
of immediately jumped to that, it kind of speaks to
what the situation is is right now with the team
in guns.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's what I was about to say, because you know,
as Bengals fans, everybody would just like this to be
buttoned up and done and he shows up a training
camp and starts practicing and he's productive. But for those
of us in the media and at this particular point
in the year, I was like, even sitting on the air,
I was like, I don't even care.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Let's just say that this is true. What exactly would happen?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And you're saying that he would have to take the
NFL to court if let's just for for the sake
of the situation, let's say he wants to return to
Texas A and M he would have to take the
NFL to court and able to do.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That, Yeah, because this is not allowed by any means.
But obviously with the NCULA, like, there's I mean, everything's
on the table legality with litigation, right, So technically he
could be allowed to sit out this entire football season
if he doesn't sign his contract with the Bengals, and
then he could re enter the NFL draft next year
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and then, excuse me, the Bengals would not be able
to allow to draft it, and obviously the Bengals wouldn't
draft him that situation anyways. But that is like, that
is the true doomsday scenary period. It is included in
the NFL CBA. It is not included anywhere that you
can get drafted and then go back to your original
college team. But obviously, you know, in today's world, with nil,
he would have opportunities to make some of the money
(04:22):
that he would lose by not getting you know, the
contract that he would beginning for the Bengals here, and
then he could you know, theoretically recuperate a lot of
that value by going into the NFL the next year.
But again, there is no actual path to doing that
other than just you know, just forcing your way through
the court system. And who knows if you could actually
win that battle. Who knows how long that legal batt
would actually take. I'm not a lawyer, I have no
(04:42):
expertise in this area. I would imagine it would be
a very lengthy process where it probably.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Wouldn't even get resolved until you.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Know, the beginning right after the beginning.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Of next season. So it is a truly like out
of this world idea that was brought up by that.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
But yes, I guess he could theoretically, if that was
his choice, he could theoretically take the the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Court CV do win.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, and you know, I don't want that to happen,
but part of me would be enamored by the idea
of it actually happening and wondering what the fallout would
be at what point, like do you do you see
his side at all? Just eventually just saying all right,
let's just get this over with, Let's get the guy
in training camp, and we'll figure it out from there,
because it doesn't really seem worth it for him at
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this point.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He's the last guy left.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
He is the last guy left.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And I would imagine that with the route that they've
taken by you know, going to the media and through
all these different avenues and channels and the things that
he said, it.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Almost seems like they've dug themselves in the.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Spot where they have to get something out of this,
Like they can't just eliminate the possibility of getting any
concession from the Bengals, which is why I kind of
foresee this taking maybe even longer than the Trey Anderson
situation because of how much that like that they've said,
the fact that he isn't under contract at all, They can,
I guess, in theory, afford to wait this out because
(05:59):
of that situation where he can't technically get fined.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
By not being a team employees.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So I think that they are extremely dug in in
this case, and that is why they're not going to
alleviate from this until they get something in return, whether
that is an advancement on the signing bonus payment or
whatever the case may be. Whatever the negotiables are in
these contracts that are typically boil or played, I would
imagine they're not going to just take nothing at this point.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Talking to John Shearon, a to Z Sports covering the
Cincinnati Bengals the announcement earlier today about Lamar Parrish and
Dave Lapham going into the Ring of Honor, what was
your reaction to that.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Fan's got it right.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like I've been pounding the table for Lamar Parish for
the past two years. I thought that this was also
the right year to get Dave Lapham in because I
think there's been some confusion or maybe some mystery about
the changes coming to the Ring of Honor, and I
can only imagine that they are going to make any
changes about the process. It might get tougher more difficult
for the current nominees or the nominees for this year
(06:58):
to maybe get into the future years. And I think
Dave Lapham definitely deserves it at some point. I'm glad
it is this year, even if his career didn't include
the most accolades beyond just games played and games started.
He is mister Bengal and he is synonymous with the
team more than any player who's ever played for that
franchise before. But I think with Lamar Parrish, he's arguably
the most underrated Bengal in team history. And I think
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that's because he played in the earliest days and he
was only here for a little bit more than half
of his career.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But in those eight.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Years, six Pro Bowls, twenty five interceptions electured with the
ball in his hands. He's often forgotten because he played
on the opposite side of Ken Riley, and I think, honestly,
you know, I don't think a lot of people like
to talk about this because it's not the most comfortable conversation.
But Lamarn Parrish is seventy seven, and this fan base
watched Ken Riley passed away before he got to witness
all of the Ring of Bond and the Hall of
(07:46):
Fame ceremonies for himself. So I think it's extremely important
for because this fan base has power to put these
guys in this position.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And give them the recognition.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Is important to prioritize some of those guys who really
paved the way for the players that we saw in
the eighties, in the two thousands and everywhere after that.
So I'm really happy that both these guys, who were
both in their seventies get the witnesses for themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, and it makes me
want to pound the table of course for Bob Trumpy
as well, for a number of different reasons. And you
kind of talk too about how underrated Lamar Parrish was,
and I don't know if people understand how much he
and Ken Riley helped one another. Because the quarterback didn't
(08:27):
have too many places you felt comfortable throwing the ball.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
One hundred percent, Like the game was completely different back then,
and like you know, practicing against Isaac Curtis and who,
of course essentially is still a rule of the against
legal contact, right, But yeah, the game was completely different
and interceptions were a lot more common than they are nowadays.
But even still, I think Lamar Parrish's athleticism it really
transcended his generation. And if he played in the bigger market,
(08:52):
I think he would have got a little bit more recognition.
But then then again, he did go to Washington and
he got his name out there a little bit more,
and he put together one of the very best here's
a seventh round pick has ever had if you go
by for FOBO references Approximate value metric, he's third all
time for all seventh round picks. Fourth coincidentally is Max Montoya,
who's probably is going to get him the Ring of
Honor here singer rather than later. But completely like like
(09:14):
you said, completely underrated player in a great athlete.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
All right, other thing, John training camp is coming up quickly,
and I can't believe it's already almost here. We know
about Stuart Hendrickson and whatnot, But for you, are there
any kind of under the radar storylines that you're going
to be paying attention to as Bengals training camp gets
underway next week, So I'm actually.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Writing in an article right now.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm previewing the depth chart position by position, and I'm
on cornerback right now, and I think the top four
at this position could go any way possible. I think
with Dak still coming back from injury, it creates a
little bit of a variable as to when he's going
to be able to practice or when he's going to
be you know, he's full sell. Then where they're actually
going to place him at the start of this he
could be the number one cornerback on the outside. He
(10:00):
could be the next Leon Haul and he's the nickelback
who also plays a little bit on the outside. If
Cam Taylor brid has to earn a spot back after
being benched twice last year, is DJ Turner or Josh
Newton would be the first cornerback off.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
The bench if they're going to stay in these and
you know, in the.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Three cornerbacks sets with nickel, I don't know how to
order these top four guys. I think I have a
decent guess with with Dax being at the top, and
maybe you know, Newton squeezing out that third spot because
of how you know well received he's been through the
offseason program, but I'm really interested to see how these
reps are divvied up.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Between these guys, and I think the scheme.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Is going to be a little bit different where these
guys are going to fallow around other wideouts. I'm not
gonna be stuck on one side of the line spinnitch
and maybe that changes things. But I really don't know
how to order these top four cornerbacks, and I'm really
intrigued to see how they're using training camp.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I was thinking about that too with Cam Taylor Britt
just because I mean, CTB might be the most athletic
player pound for pound on the roster. Is there a
world in which it makes sense for him to be
the nickel guy?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I think yeah, Like I think that, or potentially getting
reps in safety. He played a little bit of safety
in Nebraska as well, just to utilize some of that
downhill athleticism that he has, and I think we kind
of saw a glimpse of that in training camp or
excuse me, in the offseason program where he's following Mikeseki
into the slot. He's making plays out of there as well,
So yeah, like they have options now that they don't have.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Mike Hilden, and it could just be a situation.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Where you handle that position by committee if you don't
have full trust in one guy to handle that spot entirely,
or you want to maximize the athleticism that this group
as a whole really does have. I think Josh Newton
makes sense for that spot because he might be the
most athletically limited of the quartet that we're speaking of,
but he's got the physicality, and so it does camp
teller break right like that. That was what his biggest
(11:43):
strength was when he was first coming onto the scene
in twenty twenty two and twenty three. He was a
great guy at the line of scrimmage. He could press,
he could tackle. Some of that was lost a little
bit last year, but maybe he can find it again
in a new position.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do you think that's going to be the single biggest
difference fans notice in the Al Golden defense compared to
the lu An Rumo defense.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I think it's that and how they scheme up pressures
up front. I think you're you're gonna see a lot
more twists and stunts. I think you're gonna see potentially
guys but in different alignments more often than not. I
don't know if we're gonna see Trey, you know, Hendrickson
when he comes back on the left side more often
than not. But I think that the way that that
he schemes up pressures with man coverage in the back end,
there's gonna be a lot more.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Variation with that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
All the talk has been about how it's supposed to
be more simplified defense and everything, but I think that
in terms of just the coverage packages, you're gonna see
a difference in how they scheme up pressure and how
they compliment that with man coverage in the back end.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
If I gave you a date of September first, before
or after September first, will we have an answer on
Trey Henderson.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm gonna go on a limits before, Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
For whatever reason, I feel like this gets resolved sometime
during the preseason, and I think it's because you're still
in a situation where both sides know it's best for
both of them to get it's something done. The knowledge
of how this has impacted them for the past two
years with Burrow, with Higgins, with Chase, I think there's
(13:09):
been enough time this offseason really just the past couple
of years of the constant dialogue with all this happening,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Think it's going to get quite to that point.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I honestly do think it could with Shamar Stewart because
of how that situation is unsholding.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
But I do think with Trey.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
He will he I do believe that he thinks that
he's serious about sitting out games, but I think his
training camp rolled along and the preseason eventually gets here,
he will miss being out there, and I think there
will be a concerted effort to get that done before
it gets really up to the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. John Sheer in
a to Z Sports, thanks so much for your time
here today. What are you working on and how can
people follow along to what you are working on?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, so keep follow along at a Z sports dot com,
Backslash Cincinnati and on YouTube three videos a week at
eighties Sports Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Awesome, John, thanks so much, man.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Thanks awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That is John Shearon a to the sports and again
a wonderful follow John underscore underscore Sharon on Twitter. He
is smart, he's funny and relatable and was described as
a versatile guy. According to Jeff Hobson, which is incredibly
important for anybody in any position, any profession, anytime, anywhere,
(14:24):
to be spoken highly of by Jeff Hobson. Looking forward
to reading more from John and having him on the
show maybe weekly. We'll see, I have to I should
ask him that sometime about getting him on the show
during the season a little bit more frequently. When we
come back. Let's talk to each other. Five one, three,
seven more nine fifteen thirty. I forgot what I was
(14:45):
doing for a minute. ESPN has done their executive lists
where they rank the quarterbacks, they rank the wide receivers,
they rank every position. Let's talk about what they released today,
which was wide receivers, what they released earlier this week,
which was quarterbacks. That's all next. This is Sincy three
sixty ESPN fifteen thirty now
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