July 17, 2025 • 19 mins
Senior Writer at Bengals.com Geoff Hobson joins the show to discuss The Bengals Ring of Honor inductees, The Cincinnati Heart Walk, Training Camp storylines and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cincy Shirts Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,
sponsored in part by Cincy Shirts. Cincy Shirts All Cincy,
all Day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bye, Hello, welcome in our number two of Cincy three
sixty here on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore.
We're heavy on Bengals conversation today as we are now
less than a week away from training camp getting under way,
and there are storylines everywhere, including the storylines yesterday about
the Bengals latest Ring of Honor inductees. Excited to talk
(00:38):
about that with my next guest. He's been covering the
Bengals and been around the Bengals for a long long time.
He's one of the best in the business, one of
our favorite guests. His name is Jeff Hobson and he
joins us now, Jeff, how you.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Doing, man, Awestome, Thanks very much for having me on.
A pleasure to be with you. Yeah, and your outreach
and you're outreach and no, I did not cover the
out nothing doing it that long.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You have not been doing it that long, but certainly
you know the impact of a guy like Lamar Parish.
When you first heard the news that it was Lamar
and lap going in, what was your immediate reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
No brainers, you know, it was just like all the
other announcements. You know, we've had in the Ring of Honor,
it's been guys, guys that belong. And you know, I've
been saying it for a long time. Lamar was Chad
before Chad and Dion before Dion. I mean, the guys
a Hall of Famer. I mean, as much as we've
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talked about Kenny Anderson and Willie Anderson, who are you know,
should be deadlock since so is Lamar and just great
to see him, you know, suddenly he's seventy seven years
old and it's just great to see him get that recognition.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well yeah, I mean the purpose of this is being
able to honor these great players and bring recognition to
their career. In myself and clin like, I always knew
Lamar Parris was really good, but when you kind of
dive into like his stats, you're like, oh, crap, this
dude could be in Canton, that's how good he was.
Like what was his impact on those Bengals teams of
the seventies and the success that they had going to
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the playoffs a few times.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
As great as that offense was with what PD brought
from Cleveland as a skeleton for the West Coast offense
that was developed by Walsh and PB and it was,
you know, perfectly engineered by Kenny Anderson. That was a
defensive football team. I mean they won some they want
some unbelievable bloodfest and Lamon was a big reason why.
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I mean he scored thirteen he scored thirteen non offensive
touchdowns and a lot of those were in those AFC,
you know Central games that it was you know, the Steelers,
the oil was it was just it was you know
the Browns. You know, they weren't a lot of points
out there, especially in that era. And that was a
you know, Kenny Ryan in my parish, she had a
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Hall of Fame corners. You had a Pro Bowl safety
and Tommy Casanova. You know, you had a wonderful cover
linebacker and al bow champ and uh you know, really
Mike Mike Reig was not on the seventy five team,
but he was on the first five teams in the
seventies and uh, you know when they made the playoffs,
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uh twice and they were the youngest expansion team to
win a division title. You know, Mike Reid was one
of the best players in the game. So it was
a defensive it was it was a defense. It was
a very uh well balanced teams in like the early seventies,
uh PB's last two teams in particular. But that was
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really uh you know, uh, Kenny and Lamia really anchored
some great defensive efforts.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, you talk about Ken Riley and obviously anytime you
have those two guys on on the field at the
same time, Like, how important is that dynamic to those
two making each other better?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Do you think? Well, I think it was big because
they had so much in common Austin. I mean, they
were both both from historically black black colleges, both from Florida,
both had played offense their entire careers. Kenny was a quarterback,
Lama was a running back, and they became some of it,
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and they became two of the greatest corners in the
game just from you know, uh, pure coaching and learning
and it was you know, and they had each other
they were roommates for eight years. You know, I thought
Lama was really eloquent talking about his relationship yesterday with
Kenny and now Kenny's family after Kenny suddenly passed away
five years ago. And you know, they they bounced, you know,
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he said they talked about everything. You know, they bounced
a lot off each other. And both of them went
on to become head coaches at their alma Miles. So
you're talking about two very very smart guys who knew
the game. And uh, I think they helped each other
just they had so much in common. You know, some
people would say, well, lama I was so flashy and
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Kenny was so you know, quient, a textbook and Lamia was,
you know, my instincts and all that. But they they
had a lot more in common than they had differently,
and I think it. I think you're right. I think
it did. I think it did help them that they
were together.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, the same but different. Talking to Jeff Hopson, Senior
writer Bengals dot Com, when you think of Dave Lapham,
what's the first thing that comes to mind?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
This is enthusiastic. I kind of think of my daughter,
you know, I kind of think of my daughter. Who's Carrie.
Who's the greatest singles fan I know, and you know,
she broke up, she broke up with a boy because
he turned off the the postgame show. Uh, you just
don't do that, you know. You know, so I do
think of Carrie. The first thing I think about is
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Kry when I think about that. But you know, he's
so popularly, so enthusiastic personally. He's been a great friend
to me. Uh, he's really He's helped me so much
my career. He's a fellow bass stater. We both went
to Syracuse, and he's been so kind with his time
and his expertise. You know, he's probably sick of talking
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to me, but you know he's mister Bengal for a reason.
He's uh, he's everybody's favorite. He's my Uh, he's my
wife Anita's favorite. I mean, uh, she says, oh, that's
gonna see me coming because she's always got to hug him.
You know. So it's but that's Lap, you know, that's Lap.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, that's that's that's interesting. How do you measure his
impact not only as a player, but also in the
forty years since as a broadcaster. How do you measure
his actual impact on the franchise?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I mean, you know, you just look at you
look like people I can eat in Kerry, who are
sure you know they're not. You probably wouldn't say, you
know that you're average football fan, but they are. And
a big reason is because App and uh, how do
you measure that? I don't think you can, I thought
Dan Hoyt said it said it quite well. Uh when
they were actually we were asked a year ago, after
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Cory and after Cory and CRUMBRAI get in, who is next?
And I said, lamar and Hordy said laugh, and we
were right. And Lapp said, you know, and Hordy said,
because like out of all the players fifteen hundred Bengals
who have been here, you know who's you know, IGB.
Lapp has had the most impact of any of them.
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And that's you know, there's been some great play. You know,
you get Hall of famers and Anthony and Riley and
you know, the greatest quarterback not in the Hall of Fame,
and Kenny Anderson, you know, great tackles who were on
the cutting edge and changed their game, and Willie Anderson
and Whitworth. But uh, but look at all the people
that Lap has reached. You know, a great, a great,
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a great ambassador for the team.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And you know, well, for me, you know, the Bengals
have played in three Super Bowls, but maybe the most
famous game they've ever played in was the Freezer and
it was Lap who was behind the idea to go
sleeveless in that game. I think that's a big part
of his legacy.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's no question, you know. When I asked him, I said,
you know, was it? You know, I think it shows
you to his leadership as a as a player too,
you know, I mean he had to get I think
I think all those offensive line got out there. It
was interesting, he said. Though I guess Max was thinking
about it too. Max Montoya, Who's another guy who is
a you know, who is a Ring of Honor guy,
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the greatest guy the Bengals have ever had in a
perennial pro bowler. But Max, you know is that Laugh
was worried about big Hands Johnson, and Max was worried
about Louie Kelchin, you know, and I think they probably
talked it out and uh, you know, uh but you know,
leadership man, and uh it's you know, you could see
it that day and uh you know, and it also
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you know, in my Lap wil be the first to
tell you that helped. Did it worked? Too.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, leadership and toughness. You know, Jeff, you mentioned Paul
Brown earlier. What do you think he would think of
the Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh, I think he'd I think he'd I think he'd
like it. I don't think he was, uh, I mean,
he didn't like stuff like that because he didn't like
guys to be you know, above, you know, other guys.
You know, I think he was. He was uncomfortable with
stuff like that. But I mean I think, uh, I
think he would. But he was also a guy who
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changed with the times too, you know what I mean.
He was an open minded guy. I think he'd love
to see what his uh, what his great granddaughters have done,
Caroline and Elizabeth Blackburn have done with this. I think
I think he'd get a kick out of that. Mike
Brown gets a kick out of it. I don't think
Mike's a big you know, Mike will tell you this.
I think he said this, you know, uh, you know,
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they had to convince me, you know what I mean. So,
but but you know, Elizabeth can Vinston and I think
it's been I think it's taken off and I think,
you know, I think Mike really enjoys making that phone
call that those guys. Yeah, you know, I think that's
I think that's something that maybe he didn't think about before,
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but now that he's done it twelve times, you know,
I think that, you know, I think I think he
gets kicked out of it two. But I think, you know,
Paul would certainly be you know, he'd certainly be on
board with Lapp and LAMI, there's no question sure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Before we get to this year's team, you wanted to
talk about this event that's coming up at the Cincinnati Zoo.
That is a cause that's close to your heart. Tell
us about this and what's coming up and the cause
that it's supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, awesome, Thanks so much for letting me talk about it.
It's it's the Cincinnati Congenital Hot Walk on August second
at the Zoo. Things starting around down there at seven am,
but the walk is at eight point thirty through ten am.
We're trying to put a light on heart defects and
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particularly children. My twenty nine day old grandson, Jackhawkson, named
after Jackie Robinson, passed away from a heart defect. The
transposition of the great of the great atteries and so
you know, not only to be aware of it, but
and to honor those who are dealing with high issues,
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but then those who have passed. But also to you
know shed you know, to put a light on you know,
natal you know pre natal, you know, pre birth concerns
and screenings, getting the proper screenings, finding out about your
you know, your family background when it comes to heart
disease and how that might impact you know, a baby.
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You know, check the screenings, make sure, you know, you
get all your bases covered. And they'd say, uh, the
wonderful event. That's I just found out Jack is named
the title sponsor. Oh yeah, the Cincinnati folks, Cincinnati is tremendous.
I put together a golf outing, you know, Austin. I'm
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a I'm a bad organizer and I was able to
but we were able to put something together because the
people in Cincinnati is so nice. We raised over twenty
thousand dollars from the Children's Heart Foundation. That's awesome back
in May. So that the walk will help add to that.
And I hope you will come to the next we
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call it to Jack. We hope you come to the
next golf outing. We're going to have it in next
May again at the legendary run and we'll certainly we'll
get a card for you.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That'd be awesome. I would love to be a part
of that and help that cause. Just looking at the
website here, Children's Heart Foundation dot org. They got a
link there for volunteering registering. It's one mile walk and
they're calling it Hope for Every Heart Beat August second
at the Cincinnati Zoo. That is really cool stuff. Thanks
for letting us know about that, Jeff, and looking forward
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to hearing how it went. As far as the twenty
twenty five Bengals go, we all know about Hendrickson and
Shamar Stewart and all this other stuff. Is there like
an under the radar storyline that maybe you're looking forward
to as training camp gets underway.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well, I'd like to get to Meetrius Knight in too. Yeah,
he's a linebacker, the second round linebacker. I have a
feeling of those second round contracts will probably gets. I
think they'll all get sorted out here at some point.
But I would think the second round thing would get done,
you know, hopefully, because Knight's gonna play. It looks that
you know Knight's gonna play. They lined them up the
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next to Logan Wilson all Spring. So Knight's a guy
I'm looking at. I think that's one of those. And
I guess he's really not under the rate ad because
he's playing a you know, because he's playing such a
high profile position. And he is stating, but to me,
awesome this thing that this is Al Golden's training camp. Yeah,
that's that's that's the storyline. To me, they're talking about
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a club that did everything with a football, but you know,
send a pass on post, but they didn't stop, you know,
but they didn't. But they really couldn't keep people out
of the end zone, you know. So I like to compare,
you know, what they did with when the when? When
when when the Bengals hide Mighty Zimmer back in two
thousand and eight and how he you know, respected guy
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Zimmer was not a college you know, did not go
away to college like Al did. But Zimmer had had
skins in the wall, just like Al has skinned in
the wall. And I think we remember what, you know,
I was gonna turned that thing around, and certainly, you know, uh,
they get a hell of a lot more talent here now.
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But it shows you what the impact of a coach
can have. I think, you know, people are excited, His
players are excited. I think is his coaches and his
new coaches are excited. And that's that's obviously. I think
to me, a big, a big storyline out of camp
is uh, I think aal Golden is going to have
a big impact. And uh, I remember what Zimmer did
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back in oh eight No. Nine, and I think I
think Alcon and I think al Can had a similar impact.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's interesting you say that because I I sense like
maybe a renewed energy, especially with the defensive backs. Do
you sense that at all with without Golden coming in?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, I think anytime, and and lou was good, you know,
Louis who lou had a great run here, you know.
But I think it's like anything else. You know this.
You've been in the business long enough and been in
enough news rooms and and and classrooms that you know,
when you get a change at the top, you get
you get it. There's a different vibe and and there
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is and there is a little bit of energy, and
it's uh, you know, and it needs different things for
different people, Like for a guy like Cam Taylor Britt
who was kind of uh, you know, he had a
you know, he kind of and an up and down
year last year, he kind of gets a fresh looks
on it, you know, trying to get back to twenty
twenty two. Well, you get a guy like you got
a guy like Josh Newton, who was you know, trying
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to prove that he can you know, that he can
get in the free man rotation there back in the secondary.
And now he's got a new he's got new eyes
looking at him. But the thing about how too Austin
is he's been here before. Now a lot of the
guys haven't been here. A lot of the guys hadn't
been here when I was here, but some of the
big dogs has And I think that's uh, you know
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Hendrickson Logan, you know they you know, they know you
know bj Hill, they know him. So I think that's
a big help too. And I but I think anytime
you get a change, you know, you got a new
defensive line coach, you got a new linebacker's coach. Both
guys very high energy. Jerry Montgomery and Mike Hodges, respectfully,
both long time NFL veterans elsewhere who stayed in one spot.
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Jerry in Green Bay, Hoidings in the Orleans, who's staying
around for a long time because they could develop players.
You need energy to do that. And I think that
was again, I think those are two positions. I think
you can see a little bit of that now.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, training camp coming up, uh just next week. Do
you have a new bucket hat ready to go for
training camp? I know, I know you got the morning
practices now, so maybe not ast as hot, but you
got your bucket hat ready to go.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The bucket hats ready to go. You can't go struck
because the sun sneaks the sun sneaks in there like well,
maya return to punt. You gotta go. Fuck it. It's
it's tremendous. It's uh, it's just uh nothing. I mean,
I mean, I mean you look, you know, I don't
look don't look very good. I look like I you know,
perhaps some uh you know, but I you know. But
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the thing is, though, Pete Brown war, that's good enough
for me, the late great, the late great scouting guru,
who is one? Who is who is the guy in
the hdcus who is fined in the rios and the
lamars he wore hat good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's a perfect full circle. Jeff, thanks so much, Bengals
dot Com. Looking forward, to your coverage as training camp
goes around, and looking forward to the Cincinnati Congenital Heart
Walk August the second at the Cincinnati Zoo. Check out
the Children's Heart Foundation dot org for more information. Jeff,
thanks for spending some time with me today. Man, We'll
talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Awesome. Is so kind to mention that. Thank you very
much for getting the word out. I'll get the report
back to you, and I hope you be talking to
you many times this scene.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Looking forward to it. Thanks Jeff. That is Jeff Hobson.
You know, I wonder if he's tired of guys like
Jamar and Lamar and Schamar because of having to say
those names all the time with that Boston accent and
everybody making fun of him. But I love talking to Jeff,
and I love his coverage of the Bengals. He's seen
it all, he has really seen it all. That's Jeff
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hop m
This is Cincy Shirts Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,
sponsored in part by Cincy Shirts. Cincy Shirts All Cincy,
all Day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bye, Hello, welcome in our number two of Cincy three
sixty here on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore.
We're heavy on Bengals conversation today as we are now
less than a week away from training camp getting under way,
and there are storylines everywhere, including the storylines yesterday about
the Bengals latest Ring of Honor inductees. Excited to talk
(00:38):
about that with my next guest. He's been covering the
Bengals and been around the Bengals for a long long time.
He's one of the best in the business, one of
our favorite guests. His name is Jeff Hobson and he
joins us now, Jeff, how you.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Doing, man, Awestome, Thanks very much for having me on.
A pleasure to be with you. Yeah, and your outreach
and you're outreach and no, I did not cover the
out nothing doing it that long.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You have not been doing it that long, but certainly
you know the impact of a guy like Lamar Parish.
When you first heard the news that it was Lamar
and lap going in, what was your immediate reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
No brainers, you know, it was just like all the
other announcements. You know, we've had in the Ring of Honor,
it's been guys, guys that belong. And you know, I've
been saying it for a long time. Lamar was Chad
before Chad and Dion before Dion. I mean, the guys
a Hall of Famer. I mean, as much as we've
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talked about Kenny Anderson and Willie Anderson, who are you know,
should be deadlock since so is Lamar and just great
to see him, you know, suddenly he's seventy seven years
old and it's just great to see him get that recognition.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well yeah, I mean the purpose of this is being
able to honor these great players and bring recognition to
their career. In myself and clin like, I always knew
Lamar Parris was really good, but when you kind of
dive into like his stats, you're like, oh, crap, this
dude could be in Canton, that's how good he was.
Like what was his impact on those Bengals teams of
the seventies and the success that they had going to
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the playoffs a few times.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
As great as that offense was with what PD brought
from Cleveland as a skeleton for the West Coast offense
that was developed by Walsh and PB and it was,
you know, perfectly engineered by Kenny Anderson. That was a
defensive football team. I mean they won some they want
some unbelievable bloodfest and Lamon was a big reason why.
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I mean he scored thirteen he scored thirteen non offensive
touchdowns and a lot of those were in those AFC,
you know Central games that it was you know, the Steelers,
the oil was it was just it was you know
the Browns. You know, they weren't a lot of points
out there, especially in that era. And that was a
you know, Kenny Ryan in my parish, she had a
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Hall of Fame corners. You had a Pro Bowl safety
and Tommy Casanova. You know, you had a wonderful cover
linebacker and al bow champ and uh you know, really
Mike Mike Reig was not on the seventy five team,
but he was on the first five teams in the
seventies and uh, you know when they made the playoffs,
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uh twice and they were the youngest expansion team to
win a division title. You know, Mike Reid was one
of the best players in the game. So it was
a defensive it was it was a defense. It was
a very uh well balanced teams in like the early seventies,
uh PB's last two teams in particular. But that was
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really uh you know, uh, Kenny and Lamia really anchored
some great defensive efforts.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, you talk about Ken Riley and obviously anytime you
have those two guys on on the field at the
same time, Like, how important is that dynamic to those
two making each other better?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Do you think? Well, I think it was big because
they had so much in common Austin. I mean, they
were both both from historically black black colleges, both from Florida,
both had played offense their entire careers. Kenny was a quarterback,
Lama was a running back, and they became some of it,
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and they became two of the greatest corners in the
game just from you know, uh, pure coaching and learning
and it was you know, and they had each other
they were roommates for eight years. You know, I thought
Lama was really eloquent talking about his relationship yesterday with
Kenny and now Kenny's family after Kenny suddenly passed away
five years ago. And you know, they they bounced, you know,
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he said they talked about everything. You know, they bounced
a lot off each other. And both of them went
on to become head coaches at their alma Miles. So
you're talking about two very very smart guys who knew
the game. And uh, I think they helped each other
just they had so much in common. You know, some
people would say, well, lama I was so flashy and
(05:09):
Kenny was so you know, quient, a textbook and Lamia was,
you know, my instincts and all that. But they they
had a lot more in common than they had differently,
and I think it. I think you're right. I think
it did. I think it did help them that they
were together.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, the same but different. Talking to Jeff Hopson, Senior
writer Bengals dot Com, when you think of Dave Lapham,
what's the first thing that comes to mind?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
This is enthusiastic. I kind of think of my daughter,
you know, I kind of think of my daughter. Who's Carrie.
Who's the greatest singles fan I know, and you know,
she broke up, she broke up with a boy because
he turned off the the postgame show. Uh, you just
don't do that, you know. You know, so I do
think of Carrie. The first thing I think about is
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Kry when I think about that. But you know, he's
so popularly, so enthusiastic personally. He's been a great friend
to me. Uh, he's really He's helped me so much
my career. He's a fellow bass stater. We both went
to Syracuse, and he's been so kind with his time
and his expertise. You know, he's probably sick of talking
(06:17):
to me, but you know he's mister Bengal for a reason.
He's uh, he's everybody's favorite. He's my Uh, he's my
wife Anita's favorite. I mean, uh, she says, oh, that's
gonna see me coming because she's always got to hug him.
You know. So it's but that's Lap, you know, that's Lap.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, that's that's that's interesting. How do you measure his
impact not only as a player, but also in the
forty years since as a broadcaster. How do you measure
his actual impact on the franchise?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I mean, you know, you just look at you
look like people I can eat in Kerry, who are
sure you know they're not. You probably wouldn't say, you
know that you're average football fan, but they are. And
a big reason is because App and uh, how do
you measure that? I don't think you can, I thought
Dan Hoyt said it said it quite well. Uh when
they were actually we were asked a year ago, after
(07:09):
Cory and after Cory and CRUMBRAI get in, who is next?
And I said, lamar and Hordy said laugh, and we
were right. And Lapp said, you know, and Hordy said,
because like out of all the players fifteen hundred Bengals
who have been here, you know who's you know, IGB.
Lapp has had the most impact of any of them.
(07:30):
And that's you know, there's been some great play. You know,
you get Hall of famers and Anthony and Riley and
you know, the greatest quarterback not in the Hall of Fame,
and Kenny Anderson, you know, great tackles who were on
the cutting edge and changed their game, and Willie Anderson
and Whitworth. But uh, but look at all the people
that Lap has reached. You know, a great, a great,
(07:51):
a great ambassador for the team.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And you know, well, for me, you know, the Bengals
have played in three Super Bowls, but maybe the most
famous game they've ever played in was the Freezer and
it was Lap who was behind the idea to go
sleeveless in that game. I think that's a big part
of his legacy.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's no question, you know. When I asked him, I said,
you know, was it? You know, I think it shows
you to his leadership as a as a player too,
you know, I mean he had to get I think
I think all those offensive line got out there. It
was interesting, he said. Though I guess Max was thinking
about it too. Max Montoya, Who's another guy who is
a you know, who is a Ring of Honor guy,
(08:29):
the greatest guy the Bengals have ever had in a
perennial pro bowler. But Max, you know is that Laugh
was worried about big Hands Johnson, and Max was worried
about Louie Kelchin, you know, and I think they probably
talked it out and uh, you know, uh but you know,
leadership man, and uh it's you know, you could see
it that day and uh you know, and it also
(08:52):
you know, in my Lap wil be the first to
tell you that helped. Did it worked? Too.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, leadership and toughness. You know, Jeff, you mentioned Paul
Brown earlier. What do you think he would think of
the Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh, I think he'd I think he'd I think he'd
like it. I don't think he was, uh, I mean,
he didn't like stuff like that because he didn't like
guys to be you know, above, you know, other guys.
You know, I think he was. He was uncomfortable with
stuff like that. But I mean I think, uh, I
think he would. But he was also a guy who
(09:31):
changed with the times too, you know what I mean.
He was an open minded guy. I think he'd love
to see what his uh, what his great granddaughters have done,
Caroline and Elizabeth Blackburn have done with this. I think
I think he'd get a kick out of that. Mike
Brown gets a kick out of it. I don't think
Mike's a big you know, Mike will tell you this.
I think he said this, you know, uh, you know,
(09:54):
they had to convince me, you know what I mean. So,
but but you know, Elizabeth can Vinston and I think
it's been I think it's taken off and I think,
you know, I think Mike really enjoys making that phone
call that those guys. Yeah, you know, I think that's
I think that's something that maybe he didn't think about before,
(10:14):
but now that he's done it twelve times, you know,
I think that, you know, I think I think he
gets kicked out of it two. But I think, you know,
Paul would certainly be you know, he'd certainly be on
board with Lapp and LAMI, there's no question sure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Before we get to this year's team, you wanted to
talk about this event that's coming up at the Cincinnati Zoo.
That is a cause that's close to your heart. Tell
us about this and what's coming up and the cause
that it's supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, awesome, Thanks so much for letting me talk about it.
It's it's the Cincinnati Congenital Hot Walk on August second
at the Zoo. Things starting around down there at seven am,
but the walk is at eight point thirty through ten am.
We're trying to put a light on heart defects and
(11:06):
particularly children. My twenty nine day old grandson, Jackhawkson, named
after Jackie Robinson, passed away from a heart defect. The
transposition of the great of the great atteries and so
you know, not only to be aware of it, but
and to honor those who are dealing with high issues,
(11:29):
but then those who have passed. But also to you
know shed you know, to put a light on you know,
natal you know pre natal, you know, pre birth concerns
and screenings, getting the proper screenings, finding out about your
you know, your family background when it comes to heart
disease and how that might impact you know, a baby.
(11:50):
You know, check the screenings, make sure, you know, you
get all your bases covered. And they'd say, uh, the
wonderful event. That's I just found out Jack is named
the title sponsor. Oh yeah, the Cincinnati folks, Cincinnati is tremendous.
I put together a golf outing, you know, Austin. I'm
(12:11):
a I'm a bad organizer and I was able to
but we were able to put something together because the
people in Cincinnati is so nice. We raised over twenty
thousand dollars from the Children's Heart Foundation. That's awesome back
in May. So that the walk will help add to that.
And I hope you will come to the next we
(12:31):
call it to Jack. We hope you come to the
next golf outing. We're going to have it in next
May again at the legendary run and we'll certainly we'll
get a card for you.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That'd be awesome. I would love to be a part
of that and help that cause. Just looking at the
website here, Children's Heart Foundation dot org. They got a
link there for volunteering registering. It's one mile walk and
they're calling it Hope for Every Heart Beat August second
at the Cincinnati Zoo. That is really cool stuff. Thanks
for letting us know about that, Jeff, and looking forward
(13:02):
to hearing how it went. As far as the twenty
twenty five Bengals go, we all know about Hendrickson and
Shamar Stewart and all this other stuff. Is there like
an under the radar storyline that maybe you're looking forward
to as training camp gets underway.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well, I'd like to get to Meetrius Knight in too. Yeah,
he's a linebacker, the second round linebacker. I have a
feeling of those second round contracts will probably gets. I
think they'll all get sorted out here at some point.
But I would think the second round thing would get done,
you know, hopefully, because Knight's gonna play. It looks that
you know Knight's gonna play. They lined them up the
(13:39):
next to Logan Wilson all Spring. So Knight's a guy
I'm looking at. I think that's one of those. And
I guess he's really not under the rate ad because
he's playing a you know, because he's playing such a
high profile position. And he is stating, but to me,
awesome this thing that this is Al Golden's training camp. Yeah,
that's that's that's the storyline. To me, they're talking about
(14:03):
a club that did everything with a football, but you know,
send a pass on post, but they didn't stop, you know,
but they didn't. But they really couldn't keep people out
of the end zone, you know. So I like to compare,
you know, what they did with when the when? When
when when the Bengals hide Mighty Zimmer back in two
thousand and eight and how he you know, respected guy
(14:28):
Zimmer was not a college you know, did not go
away to college like Al did. But Zimmer had had
skins in the wall, just like Al has skinned in
the wall. And I think we remember what, you know,
I was gonna turned that thing around, and certainly, you know, uh,
they get a hell of a lot more talent here now.
(14:49):
But it shows you what the impact of a coach
can have. I think, you know, people are excited, His
players are excited. I think is his coaches and his
new coaches are excited. And that's that's obviously. I think
to me, a big, a big storyline out of camp
is uh, I think aal Golden is going to have
a big impact. And uh, I remember what Zimmer did
(15:11):
back in oh eight No. Nine, and I think I
think Alcon and I think al Can had a similar impact.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's interesting you say that because I I sense like
maybe a renewed energy, especially with the defensive backs. Do
you sense that at all with without Golden coming in?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, I think anytime, and and lou was good, you know,
Louis who lou had a great run here, you know.
But I think it's like anything else. You know this.
You've been in the business long enough and been in
enough news rooms and and and classrooms that you know,
when you get a change at the top, you get
you get it. There's a different vibe and and there
(15:48):
is and there is a little bit of energy, and
it's uh, you know, and it needs different things for
different people, Like for a guy like Cam Taylor Britt
who was kind of uh, you know, he had a
you know, he kind of and an up and down
year last year, he kind of gets a fresh looks
on it, you know, trying to get back to twenty
twenty two. Well, you get a guy like you got
a guy like Josh Newton, who was you know, trying
(16:11):
to prove that he can you know, that he can
get in the free man rotation there back in the secondary.
And now he's got a new he's got new eyes
looking at him. But the thing about how too Austin
is he's been here before. Now a lot of the
guys haven't been here. A lot of the guys hadn't
been here when I was here, but some of the
big dogs has And I think that's uh, you know
(16:33):
Hendrickson Logan, you know they you know, they know you
know bj Hill, they know him. So I think that's
a big help too. And I but I think anytime
you get a change, you know, you got a new
defensive line coach, you got a new linebacker's coach. Both
guys very high energy. Jerry Montgomery and Mike Hodges, respectfully,
both long time NFL veterans elsewhere who stayed in one spot.
(16:59):
Jerry in Green Bay, Hoidings in the Orleans, who's staying
around for a long time because they could develop players.
You need energy to do that. And I think that
was again, I think those are two positions. I think
you can see a little bit of that now.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, training camp coming up, uh just next week. Do
you have a new bucket hat ready to go for
training camp? I know, I know you got the morning
practices now, so maybe not ast as hot, but you
got your bucket hat ready to go.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The bucket hats ready to go. You can't go struck
because the sun sneaks the sun sneaks in there like well,
maya return to punt. You gotta go. Fuck it. It's
it's tremendous. It's uh, it's just uh nothing. I mean,
I mean, I mean you look, you know, I don't
look don't look very good. I look like I you know,
perhaps some uh you know, but I you know. But
(17:50):
the thing is, though, Pete Brown war, that's good enough
for me, the late great, the late great scouting guru,
who is one? Who is who is the guy in
the hdcus who is fined in the rios and the
lamars he wore hat good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's a perfect full circle. Jeff, thanks so much, Bengals
dot Com. Looking forward, to your coverage as training camp
goes around, and looking forward to the Cincinnati Congenital Heart
Walk August the second at the Cincinnati Zoo. Check out
the Children's Heart Foundation dot org for more information. Jeff,
thanks for spending some time with me today. Man, We'll
talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Awesome. Is so kind to mention that. Thank you very
much for getting the word out. I'll get the report
back to you, and I hope you be talking to
you many times this scene.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Looking forward to it. Thanks Jeff. That is Jeff Hobson.
You know, I wonder if he's tired of guys like
Jamar and Lamar and Schamar because of having to say
those names all the time with that Boston accent and
everybody making fun of him. But I love talking to Jeff,
and I love his coverage of the Bengals. He's seen
it all, he has really seen it all. That's Jeff
(18:59):
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