September 11, 2025 • 46 mins
Tony and Austin talk Reds, the Bengals running game, take your calls, and more on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Five on Mark Chase is Weekday, then Chase Brown, then
Tom Maurice Higgins, and then Andre Yo. Yo. Yes, yes, WHOA.
I thought you were going to do it. We finish it.
It's better when the two of us do it together.
You're right right right down.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So your phone calls today five, one, three, seven, fifteen thirty.
John Shecheran is he will do each and every Thursday
of the NFL season. Will join us at one o'clock.
We've got some Joe Burrow audio. We've also Austin got
some Terry Francona audio. Now, I was told by a
I was told by a listener today on social media
that we shouldn't start talking about the Reds now that
they're only two games back, because you and I have
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already written them off.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Can I read the tweet? Please? Okay? Well, as soon
as I say that, of course, my computer stops working.
But I got it right here. Matt Murray says, make
sure you guys don't talk about the Reds now that
they're only two games back. Quote can we stop talking
about the wild card?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
End?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Quote? You and Austin gave up on them already. Don't
be at GABP when we make the playoffs. Must have
a mouse in his pocket. He signed a real Cincinnati
Reds fan handheart emoji.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
All right, Matt, I'm gonna go against what you said.
I'm gonna talk about the Reds at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I just I really struggle to understand why people think
it is our job to like be the most overwhelmingly positive.
Everything is great, this team's gonna make it. This team
we should all believe, and then we should all get
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be I don't understand why people think that that's our job.
For what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Going into today, which is an off day for the Reds,
they currently hold a ten point two percent chance to
make the postseason.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, that's good, so I give them credit. I posted
that this morning, like, yes I have written them off,
and yes I still don't believe they're going to make
the playoffs because they don't think they're good enough. But
they have found a way to win back to back
series against the two most important opponents on their schedule
right now, San Diego and the Mets, and they deserve
credit for that. Now, can they do it in the Division.
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I remember our guy Ryan tweeted at US a couple
of year weeks ago about how the last fifteen to
sixteen games of the year against so many homes at
AFC North NL Central opponents, that's going to be critical,
especially when it comes to the San Francisco Giants. If
the Red's finishing a tie with them, Red's gotta get
it done this weekend in Saint Louis. Yeah, we'll talk that.
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We'll talk.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Obviously a lot of Bengals we have Thursday night football
to discuss. Also, it would be completely tone deaf to
not even mention what happened in our country yesterday. Now,
this is not a political show, it never will be
a political show. It never has been a political show.
But from the lens of a father, with what happened yesterday,
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I believe that in all my roles in life, as
a son, as a husband, as a friend, as my
job being a dad is my single most important job
that I do. And I mentioned yesterday after the events
that took place yesterday, I'm not a political person. I
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don't talk politics with people, more so because I don't
understand enough about politics. That's not part of my world.
So I'm not the most political person, but I watched
something transpire yesterday that as a dad has affected me
greatly because as a dad and I am a man
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of faith, my wife as a woman of faith. We
are trying to instill that into our children. We are
teaching our children to stand up for what they believe in.
We're telling them to tell the truth even when it's
hard not to just be a sheep and follow along
with the crowd, to be bold, to be different, to
be so many different things, and at the end of
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the day, as parents, we're also watching someone whose life
was taken because of those values. I didn't know Charlie
Kirk a lot going into I've heard of him, but
I didn't know him going into Yesterday a ton. I
researched a lot of his stuff and from what I understand,
and again I I haven't watched every video or everything
he's ever published. From what I understand, he was going
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around two different forums and he was having open conversations
with people that disagreed with him, and they were his
beliefs in life. Everyone has opinions. We on this show.
I have opinions every day. My opinions are not the
end all be all. What I say isn't one hundred
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percent right, but it's my opinion. And the idea of
a show like this is that if you disagree, you
can be part of the show. You can choose to
agree with what is said, you can choose to not
agree with what said. We're supposed to be able to
speak freely and share ideas without the fear of what
can happen. And again, as a dad, I can't imagine
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him not being able to go home to his family
and now his life being taken for opinions. And again,
I don't know everything he's ever said, so I don't
know that I agree with everything he's ever said, or
I disagree with everything. But very rarely in life where
we going to agree with everyone. And the idea to
take those thoughts and opinions and put them in an
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open forum to debate with people in a friendly way.
I think, if there's any way to do it, that
was going about it the right way. And I think
what happened yesterday is an absolute tragedy. It's a tragedy.
There was another school shooting yesterday. We've had to talk
about way too many of those on the show. It's
a tragedy that here we are on the anniversary of
nine to eleven and trying to figure out, you know,
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where we're going as a country. I just think an
overall feeling of sadness from yesterday because of the father
side of me trying to instill things into my kids,
but also now have to be worried. Am I instilling
the things into my kids that are going to get
them in trouble at some point? That is a that's
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a tough slope to navigate, And as I've said multiple times,
I think we as a country need to be better.
We need to have more open discussions and share ideas
without the fear of what can happen from them. But
that's all I'm going to say about it. Whether you're
right side, left side, middle, I don't know, nor do
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I care. Your opinions are your opinions. Those are welcomed
as they're welcomed and talkbacks, your opinions are always welcome
when you call in and maybe disagree. We just opened
the show without austin where someone disagrees with our takes
on the Cincinnati Reds. That can happen. You don't have
to buy into what I'm saying Austin and I disagree
at times with it takes or opinions we have about
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the sports that we discuss on this show. You have
the discussion, you move on from it, and you try
to educate. That is the unfortunate thing. I think that
we've lost too much, too much side on. What else
do we have? Thursday Night Football Tonight a good one.
The Washington Commanders and the Green Bay Packers. This very well,
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in my opinion, could be I think two of the
best four teams in the NFC right now. I certainly
think the Green Bay Packers are one of them. I
think the Philadelphia Eagles are one of them. I need
to see a little bit more from the Rams, but
I think the Tampa Bay Bucks are one of them,
and I think the Washington Commanders are one of them.
I think that is what makes up the top four
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teams in the NFC, and I think getting that on
a Thursday night early in the season is pretty good
from a fan point of view. Now, again, are you
going to overreact? Are we going to overreact? Are people
in Green Bay and Washington going to overreact?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The fact of the matter is it's week two. There's
a long season ahead. But both these teams win their
Week one game. Green Bay was extremely, extremely impressive. Washington
I thought was very workman like in the way that
they took care of the commanders. But nonetheless we get
a good Thursday night football game tonight. Have you seen
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Austin we talked about a little earlier. There's a Paul
Skeens stat that's going around. Have you read this stat yet?
I haven't you read it to me this morning? Though,
If the Pittsburgh Pirates in every start that Paul Skeins
made this year Austin scored just three runs would be
thirty two and five. If the Pirates and every one
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of Paul Skians starts scored four runs, he would have
a thirty five and one record on the season. That
is how dominant Paul Skins has been.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And the Pirates in turn would be the best team
in baseball. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, Yes, if you
add what's his record right now current rakings. Give me
a second, because let's say you add twenty wins to
what they're currently at, they would be right there. But
I don't even think he has ten wins.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No Paul Skins on the season. Yes, is tenes, so
he's ten and nine. So you add twenty five wins
to that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Twenty five wins to where they're at right now, and
that would be eighty nine men right here with the
red lights, with the Brewers at the top of the
National League Central That is crazy, man, that's insane to
think about that. Like to me, Also, if I'm the
Pirates and I know that that is an organization that
absolutely lee is run by an idiot and is not
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a team that cares at all about winning, but that
would tell me, Okay, the margin for error here is
relatively thin, like like or I shouldn't say the margin
of air like. What we have to do is not significant.
We don't have to spend one hundred and fifty million
dollars this offseason. We can probably get a couple of
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guys offensively. And still one of the weirdest Pittsburgh Pirate
stats is that they are nine games over five hundred
at PNC Park. They are twenty two and forty nine
on the road. Wow. Now Paul Skeens will be the
under Stallion's work for the Wow. People are wanting to know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Skeens will be the NL say Young Award winner yes,
right now, he's minus twenty thousand to win that award.
Some other awards that are up. Tarik's scuball right now
often is minus four thousand to go back to back
into cy Young. Garrett Crochet is number two on the
list NL.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
MVP.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Should it be as cut and dry as Otani's minus
twenty five thousand Scharver's plus twenty five hundred?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think it should be a lot closer than that.
I do too.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And in the American League minus Aaron Judges minus three
to fifty. Cal raleyes plus two hundred. Is it that
cut and dry as well?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't think so. We will.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We'll discuss as uh as the show goes on, because
we'll talk some Reds and athletics. Right now, the Oakland Athletics,
not the Oakland. The Athletics prospect Nick Kurtz is minus
fifty thousand to win American League Rookie of the Year
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minus fifty thousand. Austin, that's not bad. He's really good.
He's hid thirty homers. Yeah, we're going to talk about
the A's and there seasons, totics and how good they've
been at some things and how bad they've been at
other things. There's also a crazy stat out there from baseball,
not as lucrative as Paul schemes. But last night these
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Athletics avoided a sweep Austin by getting to a rolldist
Chapman in the ninth inning. A rollist Chapman allowed his
first hit for the Red Sox since July twenty third.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It is what now? What is today?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
September eleventh? He hadn't allowed a hit in a month
and a half. How about a rolldist Chapman still doing
it at a very high level. When's he going to
slow down? I don't know that he will.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You know, there was a thing recently that basically said
it was as simple as he started aiming. Oh, which
is crazy to think about that. Like when he would
throw his fastball, Originally he would just let it rip
and it landed where it landed. Sure, now he's like
focusing on where he wants to throw his Who unlocked
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that thing has become a lot more effective. It's pretty amazing.
I wonder who's unlocked that for him? They said it
was one of the catchers in Boston. I forget which
catcher he was just like, hear me out. It was
like accidentally with the pitch com because you can like
specify with your PitchCom like up and in heater down,
blah blah blah. And Eradus apparently was like, oh, hear
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me out that's true. But hear me out here, what
if we aim these pitches? That sounds ridiculously simple. Yeah,
so I don't want to believe that it's true, but
I've seen that going around more than once.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, reds off day today. But where the races line up?
As of right now? The Blue Jays are three games
clear the Yankees and the Red Sox. In the AL East,
the Tigers now nine and a half clear of the Guardians,
and the Astros hold on to a slim margin right
now they are one game ahead of Seattle Mariners. In
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the AL West, don't sleep on the Rangers as well,
who have won four straight. They're just two and a
half out. Phillies are ten games clear of the Mets.
They look for a four game series sweep today. The
Brewers five and a half clear of the Cubs and
the Dodgers three games clear of the Padres. Meaning in
your American league right now, New York, Boston and Seattle
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are your wild card teams, with Texas a game and
a half out, and in the National League it's the Cubs,
the Padres, and the Mets. With both the Giants and
the Reds just two games back in the NL Wildcard.
Do we know in detail yet how the tiebreaker would
work in the wild.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Card goes to inter division record. So the Reds right now,
if I'm not mistaken, are seventeen and twenty two in
the National League Central. The San Francisco Giants, I believe
are eighteen and twenty three or eighteen and twenty one
so the National League West. Because they split the season series.
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It then goes to their intra division record if they
are tied with their division record, and then it goes
to their record against the rest of the National League.
So right now it's very close between the Reds and
the Giants, which again the basically the rest of the
red schedule is the National League Central. Yeah, okay, And
there was also a tweet that went out today by
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Bob Nightingale, who often posts some questionable stuff. He tried
to say that the Reds being two games back of
the Mets is really them being one game back of
the Mets because they hold the tie break. Unfortunately, that's
not how it works. You have to get to the
same record for it to be a tie, and then
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the tiebreaker comes into Gosh, man, you can't be a
game behind him and say, oh, well, the Reds have
the tie record, they'll go ahead in Yeah, what do
we do?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We do that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Unbelievable, But it's to look at the standings. Yep. I'm
excited about this. I'm fun. It's fun to do this.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Don't do it too much because you already said they're
done now listen, I stand by that.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And tomorrow we're gonna do a pick'em segment. I'm gonna
pick the Jaguars to beat the Bengals, and people are
gonna get mad at me for that too, But I'm
just gonna be honest with you, man. Just that's what
I think, all right. I won't say stuff for the
sake saying stuff. You know what I mean? What you
think is okay? Thanks man.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
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Speaker 3 (19:54):
Austin, have you ever heard of NeXT's Gen Stats? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
All right, so how about this? Chase Brown may have
had the most impressive game we've seen with less than
two yards per carry.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Here, who's we Here's why? Is this the people at
next Gen Status? Yeah? Did they say this?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Per next Gen Stats, Chase Brown had minus forty three
rushing yards before contact.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Minus forty three before contact.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yes, okay, that is the lowest single game mark in
the next Gen Stats era. Yet he finished the day
with plus forty three yards on twenty one attempts. Do
you know what? That tells you? That he's making a
lot of chicken salad out of you know what?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yes? And making people miss.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
There were multiple times where he made multiple defenders miss
in the backfield and got a yard two yards maybe
just got back to the line of scrimmage. Sure, But
what it speaks volumes about Austin is maybe the current
state of the offensive line as a run blocking team.
Now here's the dilemma I have. What did we spend
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a lot of the time talking about the Bengals unlocking
this offseason the run game? Yes, Chase Brown, But at
the same time in building an offensive line, what was
the most important thing when building the O line this year?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Protecting Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So here we can read off PFF grades or how
do they do it protecting the quarterback? But on the
other side of that, they might not be the most
dominant run blocking offensive line that's ever been assembled. Does
this now clash with offensive styles for the Bengals, Because
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on one end, I think they want to be more
of what we saw in the first drive against Cleveland,
running in between the tackles, get a couple of gas runs,
be the more physical team. But on the other side,
you've got one of, if not the best quarterback in
the NFL, and you just paid all these skill weapons
and Jamar Chase and t Higgins around him, and you
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brought back Mike GASICKI. So my question, again only a
game in Austin, who do they want to be on
offense and does that directly match with the personnel that
they have to be that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Right, And I think you feel good about Amarius mims
development as a run blocker, you don't feel great about
everybody else because Mims is still so young and so
raw that okay, there's something there, and maybe it's fair
to say that about Dylan Fairchild as well. But the
reason I think Lucas Patrick was selected over Dalton Reisner
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this year was because that Lucas Patrick, albeit not significantly,
is believed to be a better run Black run blocker.
Then Lucas Patrick is a better run blocker than Dalton Reisner, right,
but his past block became an issue. They signed Dalton Reisner.
He goes in the game, offense really doesn't run the
football well after that whatsoever, and interior of the offensive
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line was dominated by Cleveland. My fear is that after
a game in which things went south on the when
it comes to running the ball and Burrow wasn't in
the rhythm. Kind of circle back to that conversation, that
the Bengals will quickly abandon it. And I hope that
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they don't do that because Chase Brown is good and
he is a part of their offensive identity, and they
did spend parts of the offseason centering the offense around him.
They just have to find a way to better execute
up front and not let one player or a particular
player or a style of defense completely destroy their run game.
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Because you know, everybody wants talk about Miles Garrett, and
Miles played a role, But going back and looking at
the tape, it was I believe Malik Collins for Cleveland
was just ca havoc, just throwing guys around. You can't
allow that to happen if you're a Bengals offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, I just again, so much was made about how
good Chase Brown can be, but they also spent so
much money on the offensive weapons for Joe Burrow, and
they spent money to ideally protect Joe Burrow and use
the draft pick to protect Joe Burrow. But again, and
I'm with you, I hope that one game sample size
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against a good defensive line in Cleveland does not deter
them from saying we got to run the ball. But
does the personnel match that style of run For the Bengals,
That I think is what they have to sort through
because that, again, we talk about rhythm, We talk about
getting to the line of scrimmage, getting the playset, getting
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into the right play. All of that is based on
who you are as an offense. Do you have a
clear understanding as to who you are as an offense
and who you want to be? Because Austin, I think
if you do, wouldn't that give you more confidence when
you're calling the place? Or if you're not as sure?
Are you perusing that play sheet a little bit longer?
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How what do I want to do here? What do
we need to do here? Instead of just saying I
know what we're doing, I know what we want to be,
let's call it and let's go get it.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So I think there is a little bit of a
dilemma there with the calls and the personnel and the
style in which they want to play. And again it's
one week into the season and it's one week. Say
what you want about Cleveland against a good defense in
the NFL. What can you do this week? How does
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it look different this week? Those are the growth or
the lack of growth from game one to game two
early in the NFL season, Like that, to me is
what this is about. That to me is what's either
going to give you the confidence going forward that see
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I knew it they're gonna be good or well. Boy,
now it's not a one game now, it's a two
game sample size. Still trying to figure out how they're
going to do this. Then it becomes an issue. And
that's true in college. You'll probably say true in high
school as well. The teams that can grow from one
to two weeks one to week two, regardless of if
they came out hot or if they won ugly or
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they lost a tough game. How can a team go
from one to two? Preparation film, this is what we like,
this is what we don't like. That to me is fascinating.
And now that is what is being tasked to Zach Taylor,
Joe Burrow and the rest of this Bengals offense. And
I think it'll be a fascinating chess match and a
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fascinating back and forth. We'll take our break. That was
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calling in.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Hey Jeff, Happy Thursday, gents, well spoken at the open Tony.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I've lived where I lived for so long. I'm basically
a political Now. We are in some interesting times. And
you know, twenty four years ago today we brought our
daughter home from the hospital.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And Saturday and get the walker.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Down the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Crazy wow, crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Big stuff. Definitely big stuff, Austin, there's a couple of
names of my co workers in that book that.
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You had opened today.
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twenty five to twenty four with those two teams.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know. I think Micah was questionable too, right
like he's still I don't even know if he's going
to have a full thing.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I think he's gonna be questionable. I've had up and
four z L fives in my back and I'm certainly
not a pro football player. He's gonna be questionable every
game this year. Remember how Joe was questionable with that
wrist after Florio went nuts and what we have to
have an investigation. I think the Packers are going to
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make sure that he's questionable probably most of the year
unless he heals up. So I'm just looking at the
coverage map. I don't know how I'm gonna watch the
game on Sunday, But we get somebody named Chris Lewis
and Logan Ryan on the call, so that's okay. And
of course Nance and Romo could not escape Chasing Chasing
the ghost.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Although I think Buffalo at the Jets is going to
be a pretty good game, I would think you never
know if Buffalo is going to feel coming off that
crazy game, so we should have a pretty interesting weekend.
And that's all for the check in today. Again, thanks
for the open Tony. That was much appreciation.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Absolutely, I hope everything with the wedding goes well. Jeff,
congraduate relations.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I've been running around getting liquor and seltzers and everything
for a day and a half. I'm just waiting for
Saturday to get here so I can start drinking something myself.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Well, enjoy it all, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I have a great one.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Guys, Yes, sir, you know it is that that is
alarmingly low Austin for a total between these two offenses.
But I always go back to my guy Dan Horde,
who says, whenever you're alarmed by something correct, someone usually
knows more than you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, and I would imagine what's the how I.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Will say, like early in the season, I feel like
there's some opportunities. Maybe they haven't figured things out yet
and you can maybe get Vegas a little bit, but.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
For the most part. How many points is Green Bay
favored by tonight, assuming they're favorite? Yeah, I see here
three and a half. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And as we talked about yesterday with the with the Bengals,
three and a half. Normally home field is good for
like two or three points. Sure, let's essentially a pick
them between two good teams.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Thursday night, short week after the first game of the season. Now,
the Commanders didn't really have to struggle through the Giants.
But that's always a tough one I feel like. I mean,
I'm sure most teams would rather get it out of
the way right away and have to deal with it later,
like the Bengals do. But I always side with the
home teams on Thursday night games. Yeah, whether Mike is
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there or not. Yeah. Just from listening to some Commanders fans,
most notably your buddy Pft from Barstool Sports, he keeps
reiterating that he doesn't think the Commanders have a Super
Bowl roster. Now, this is a Commander's fan being honest
with his media role about the way he views his team. Yeah,
(31:50):
let's just give some space for that for a second.
I like the Packers to win this game. I don't
know if I'm crazy about the over though.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Both of these teams combine for exactly forty eight in
Week one. Green Bay scored twenty seven on Detroit and
the Commanders, I believe, put up twenty one against the Giants. Now,
I do think the Giants have a sneaky good defense.
They've got some studs on the defensive side of the
ball to put it all together. But to your point,
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the only thing that gives me reason for the over
is the fact that it's a short week and that's
just usually a little bit harder for the defenses. Yeah,
so you probably got guys that didn't practice much or
didn't practice at all going up against offenses that you
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know are already have their stuff in. I think it's
harder to game plan for another team's offense and how
effective that may be than the other side of it.
But either way, I think it's a fascinating, fascinating Thursday
night football matchup. Have you looked at as anything else
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on the weekend slate? And we'll make some picks for
week two tomorrow. Are there any other games that give
you that sneaky good game feel?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Chicago at Detroit Not necessarily that both of those teams
are good, but obviously Ben Johnson returning to Detroit for
the first time. I don't know that the Lions that
we saw against the Packers are who the Lions are.
I think you start people will start completely freaking out
over the Bears if Caleb performs poorly in that game.
(33:34):
Other than that, no, not really, I'm not. I don't
really find any of those games like, oh, you have
to see him outside of the Eagles and Chiefs. And
I do think Falcons Vikings would be will be a
good game on Sunday Night. But again, it's it's Brian
Floores against a rookie quarterback. We've seen how that goes
sometimes in the past. Pennix isn't a rookie but a
second year quarterback. Yeah, I look at one. I think
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the Bills Jets could be a good one just based
on what we saw from the Jets in Week one.
Over in that game or the total in that game
is forty six and it's crazy, which I think is
a little low, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Because I think the Bills are going to score. But
I was impressed with justin Field and the Jets offense
against a good defense in the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
As you mentioned. Eagles.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Chiefs obviously is a is a big one. What about
the sleeper, what about Denver going to Indy?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't I don't have any thoughts on that. About
the Browns having to go to Baltimore. I trust Denver
to beat the Colts on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What do you make of the Dolphins and the Patriots
snooze fest? Yeah, a little bit disappointing Week one for
the Patriots. Yeah, Strem Raiders extremely disappointing. And I don't
know if you find another team that laid down more
than what the Dolphins seemed to do in the first game.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Right I'll tell you one that is kind of has
my attention is San Francisco at the Saints. San Francisco
only a three and a half point favored in that,
but Brock Perdy is not gonna play, George Kittle is out.
Remember Deebo Samuel's not there anymore. Juwan Jennings, one of
their wide receivers, has not been one hundred percent. Christian
McCaffrey has a history of getting injured. The Dome is
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never an easy place to play, and now their defense
is solid and Robert Salad back coordinating that defense going
up against the Saints, who put up a much better
fight than I think anybody expected in Week number one,
that could be a sneaky game right there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think if you're looking at the lens of the
NFL as a whole, and you're not here in Cincinnati.
I think the Jagson Bengals would be one of those
as well, for nationally to be like, Okay, let's see
what they got going on here. See if Jacksonville can
expand on Week one. Let's see if the Bengals can
figure out things offensively. How's the defense going to play them?
But against the better offense and a team that well
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established themselves on the ground in their Week one win
with a new head coach as their coordinator, I think
that's all fascinating to look at. I also think it's
fascinating Austin to take blind phone calls at times. Can
we do that here? I don't know if today's a
day for that. Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. Well,
let's take an early break. We'll get to our phone lines,
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get in at the end of this hour or as
we get into our number three as well.
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Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course your talk back so much more
between now and three o'clock. We do leave ourselves some
time here for some phone calls. At the end of
our number one Mike is calling in. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Thanks so I I happened to catch a little ESPN
this morning. Orlovsky fit his top five quarterbacks after the
after week one, and Herbert was number one. Yeah, Love
was number two, Stafford was three, Stroud with four, and
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Geno Smith your Raiders. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That was a very quiet It was a quiet but
good win for the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Didn't we throw it for like three sixty or something?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Height threw or three? I was close to the three
bad weather too close? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Gino can
slain it now he's been I mean, anybody who's hung
around the league this long, you know, he's got to
have some value to him or he's still been around
just elite, that's all. I think the Giants are blowing it.
They gotta put Russell Wilson in the refrigerator and Jackson start.
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Dart needs to start game be a good one.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I think Jackson Dart is going to be a stud.
And it's interesting because if your day ball, you can't
let this season get out from under you already. You can't.
You can't give Russell Wilson an eight game leash. You've
got to make a decision based on one week to
the next. Who's gonna give this team the best chance
to win? Because I said before, I do think they
got a good defensive team. They they need to find
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ways to put up points, and I don't think Russell
Wilson is that anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
They do. They have a quietly good good defense. I
think Danny Dimes. I think Daniel Jones makes this game
versus Knicks, makes this a close game between Denver and
Indy because of Jones' experience and the knicks is lack thereof.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I think Jones in Indy gets the fresh start. Obviously,
people are gonna take note of what he was able
to do in week one, and I think Bo Knicks
was a little disappointed in week one, So there's a lot,
a lot to follow along with here.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
And I know that Tua and those those guys were
talking about how difficult lou Ana Rumo made it on them. Yeah,
and so I'm sure he'll go after bo Nicks in
a way that that I'm sure Bo hasn't seen before,
maybe might not be ready for. So it could, you know,
continue to stall out for that Broncos offense at least early,
but their defense is good enough to keep him in games.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
That's the only reason they won last week. With defense
is bad. You know what the Padre good for the Reds.
The Padres bats could not be softer right now. They
are slumping horribly off the bats. And that was a
hell of the pitchers duel last night. Beteam to that
and Abbott that was a great picture.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I was glad to see Abbot bounce back and have
a good start because as of late he's been a
little bit more inconsistent. You worry about maybe the length
of the season and how much they've had to utilize
him as the bell cow. But now I thought that
was a very very positive step forward last night for
the Reds and for Andrew Abbott.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well they got was careful and not let these as
sneak up on and get them for a couple of games,
because that could easily happen. We'll in their history, right, We're.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Gonna talk about the A's are fourth, the fourth best
hitting team in baseball, fourth best batting average, fourth most
home runs they could.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
They can hit the ball out of the ballpark.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Their pitching staff is not great, but that is a
very very good offensive team.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, they are. They're surprisingly good. They just don't get
any pub, you know, just like the Reds don't get
any national pub, or not nearly as much as we
would like. Anyway, guys, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Thanks so Munch, Thanks Mike, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Uh from Mike to UH to John. What's up John?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
How are you good? Hey?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
First of all, congratulations on the UC Hall of Fame
things a few weeks ago. But congrats on that, Thank you,
thank you. I wanted to talk a little bit about
Reds baseball, even though the guys shout out to you
guys didn't want you guys to talk about him. But
I'm I'm in, I'm in all one sixty two, and
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I know that it's at different points. It's been a
tough season and we've thrown dirt on them multiple times,
but these guys just keep fighting back and and uh,
we're here. I mean, we're we're getting towards the middle
of September and we have relevant baseball and that hasn't
happened very much lately. So I'm pretty excited about it.
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I think that it's really interesting to see how the
bullpen's been uh come together here with the Maxwell and
uh uh uh uh Connor Phillips, I mean we're kind
of grabbing guys off the scrap heap and and guys
out of Louisville to piece things together, and uh, right now,
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it just seems to be working.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, I mean they're they're finding ways. And again it
feels like they're hanging on at times, but they're finding ways. Austin,
I've believe did you mention earlier that the plan has
to use Chase Brown in the bullpen?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, Chase Burns. I'm sorry, raids Red said that, Terry
Francona said prior.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
To the So yeah, that might be some bullpen help
as well. If Chase Burns can give you some innings
down there.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
And I think I think they said Ashcraft might be
coming back to right.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Don't know exactly his his status. I can double check it,
but I know he's still going through the rehab process.
I don't know how yeah, how long it's going to
be before he gets back.
Speaker 10 (43:29):
Yeah, Okay, Well, I think it's interesting how they're handling
Burns and I'm sure they're going to use him very
very just at discretion because of how they handle pitchers
these days. But it just seems like he was pitching
along there and then all of a sudden he just
was shut down, and there was some time there we
kind of needed a few arms. But yeah, it's it's exciting.
(43:52):
I'm a I'm a big baseball guy. I know everybody
loves football now and likes to talk football, but I
I I can get to football here in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
But I just love the.
Speaker 10 (44:03):
Grind of the full baseball season.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, John, we appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Thank you. You know, the update quickly on Graham Ashcraft.
He was supposed to face the live hitters yesterday. Don't
know if that happened. Okay, so no update yet. Hopefully
we'll get something tomorrow from Terry Francona. Chase Burns will
be activated tomorrow and we'll initially pitch out of the
bullpen according to the rest it is.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know, as John mentioned, there was that stretch there
Austin where it felt like they needed some help with
the rotation. And then there was the comments of you know,
the cowboy talking about watching Chase Burns throw the simulated
game or simulated inning. Say, and he's got it. He
needs to be with this team right now. They have
somehow managed to stay afloat, and they will add Chase
Burns to that bullpen. That is obviously an upgrade I
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would imagine to bolster the Reds bullpen. We'll talk a
little bit more about the Reds in our number three
when we get back. Our guest the top of our
number two each and every Thursday at football season is
John Sharon. Yes, he'll join us to kick off the
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Five on Mark Chase is Weekday, then Chase Brown, then
Tom Maurice Higgins, and then Andre Yo. Yo. Yes, yes, WHOA.
I thought you were going to do it. We finish it.
It's better when the two of us do it together.
You're right right right down.
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We've got some Joe Burrow audio. We've also Austin got
some Terry Francona audio. Now, I was told by a
I was told by a listener today on social media
that we shouldn't start talking about the Reds now that
they're only two games back, because you and I have
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already written them off.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Can I read the tweet? Please? Okay? Well, as soon
as I say that, of course, my computer stops working.
But I got it right here. Matt Murray says, make
sure you guys don't talk about the Reds now that
they're only two games back. Quote can we stop talking
about the wild card?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
End?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Quote? You and Austin gave up on them already. Don't
be at GABP when we make the playoffs. Must have
a mouse in his pocket. He signed a real Cincinnati
Reds fan handheart emoji.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
All right, Matt, I'm gonna go against what you said.
I'm gonna talk about the Reds at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I just I really struggle to understand why people think
it is our job to like be the most overwhelmingly positive.
Everything is great, this team's gonna make it. This team
we should all believe, and then we should all get
(02:59):
be I don't understand why people think that that's our job.
For what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Going into today, which is an off day for the Reds,
they currently hold a ten point two percent chance to
make the postseason.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, that's good, so I give them credit. I posted
that this morning, like, yes I have written them off,
and yes I still don't believe they're going to make
the playoffs because they don't think they're good enough. But
they have found a way to win back to back
series against the two most important opponents on their schedule
right now, San Diego and the Mets, and they deserve
credit for that. Now, can they do it in the Division.
(03:33):
I remember our guy Ryan tweeted at US a couple
of year weeks ago about how the last fifteen to
sixteen games of the year against so many homes at
AFC North NL Central opponents, that's going to be critical,
especially when it comes to the San Francisco Giants. If
the Red's finishing a tie with them, Red's gotta get
it done this weekend in Saint Louis. Yeah, we'll talk that.
(03:54):
We'll talk.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Obviously a lot of Bengals we have Thursday night football
to discuss. Also, it would be completely tone deaf to
not even mention what happened in our country yesterday. Now,
this is not a political show, it never will be
a political show. It never has been a political show.
But from the lens of a father, with what happened yesterday,
(04:15):
I believe that in all my roles in life, as
a son, as a husband, as a friend, as my
job being a dad is my single most important job
that I do. And I mentioned yesterday after the events
that took place yesterday, I'm not a political person. I
(04:36):
don't talk politics with people, more so because I don't
understand enough about politics. That's not part of my world.
So I'm not the most political person, but I watched
something transpire yesterday that as a dad has affected me
greatly because as a dad and I am a man
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of faith, my wife as a woman of faith. We
are trying to instill that into our children. We are
teaching our children to stand up for what they believe in.
We're telling them to tell the truth even when it's
hard not to just be a sheep and follow along
with the crowd, to be bold, to be different, to
be so many different things, and at the end of
(05:18):
the day, as parents, we're also watching someone whose life
was taken because of those values. I didn't know Charlie
Kirk a lot going into I've heard of him, but
I didn't know him going into Yesterday a ton. I
researched a lot of his stuff and from what I understand,
and again I I haven't watched every video or everything
he's ever published. From what I understand, he was going
(05:41):
around two different forums and he was having open conversations
with people that disagreed with him, and they were his
beliefs in life. Everyone has opinions. We on this show.
I have opinions every day. My opinions are not the
end all be all. What I say isn't one hundred
(06:04):
percent right, but it's my opinion. And the idea of
a show like this is that if you disagree, you
can be part of the show. You can choose to
agree with what is said, you can choose to not
agree with what said. We're supposed to be able to
speak freely and share ideas without the fear of what
can happen. And again, as a dad, I can't imagine
(06:29):
him not being able to go home to his family
and now his life being taken for opinions. And again,
I don't know everything he's ever said, so I don't
know that I agree with everything he's ever said, or
I disagree with everything. But very rarely in life where
we going to agree with everyone. And the idea to
take those thoughts and opinions and put them in an
(06:51):
open forum to debate with people in a friendly way.
I think, if there's any way to do it, that
was going about it the right way. And I think
what happened yesterday is an absolute tragedy. It's a tragedy.
There was another school shooting yesterday. We've had to talk
about way too many of those on the show. It's
a tragedy that here we are on the anniversary of
nine to eleven and trying to figure out, you know,
(07:13):
where we're going as a country. I just think an
overall feeling of sadness from yesterday because of the father
side of me trying to instill things into my kids,
but also now have to be worried. Am I instilling
the things into my kids that are going to get
them in trouble at some point? That is a that's
(07:35):
a tough slope to navigate, And as I've said multiple times,
I think we as a country need to be better.
We need to have more open discussions and share ideas
without the fear of what can happen from them. But
that's all I'm going to say about it. Whether you're
right side, left side, middle, I don't know, nor do
(07:55):
I care. Your opinions are your opinions. Those are welcomed
as they're welcomed and talkbacks, your opinions are always welcome
when you call in and maybe disagree. We just opened
the show without austin where someone disagrees with our takes
on the Cincinnati Reds. That can happen. You don't have
to buy into what I'm saying Austin and I disagree
at times with it takes or opinions we have about
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the sports that we discuss on this show. You have
the discussion, you move on from it, and you try
to educate. That is the unfortunate thing. I think that
we've lost too much, too much side on. What else
do we have? Thursday Night Football Tonight a good one.
The Washington Commanders and the Green Bay Packers. This very well,
(08:41):
in my opinion, could be I think two of the
best four teams in the NFC right now. I certainly
think the Green Bay Packers are one of them. I
think the Philadelphia Eagles are one of them. I need
to see a little bit more from the Rams, but
I think the Tampa Bay Bucks are one of them,
and I think the Washington Commanders are one of them.
I think that is what makes up the top four
(09:03):
teams in the NFC, and I think getting that on
a Thursday night early in the season is pretty good
from a fan point of view. Now, again, are you
going to overreact? Are we going to overreact? Are people
in Green Bay and Washington going to overreact?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The fact of the matter is it's week two. There's
a long season ahead. But both these teams win their
Week one game. Green Bay was extremely, extremely impressive. Washington
I thought was very workman like in the way that
they took care of the commanders. But nonetheless we get
a good Thursday night football game tonight. Have you seen
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Austin we talked about a little earlier. There's a Paul
Skeens stat that's going around. Have you read this stat yet?
I haven't you read it to me this morning? Though,
If the Pittsburgh Pirates in every start that Paul Skeins
made this year Austin scored just three runs would be
thirty two and five. If the Pirates and every one
(10:04):
of Paul Skians starts scored four runs, he would have
a thirty five and one record on the season. That
is how dominant Paul Skins has been.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And the Pirates in turn would be the best team
in baseball. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, Yes, if you
add what's his record right now current rakings. Give me
a second, because let's say you add twenty wins to
what they're currently at, they would be right there. But
I don't even think he has ten wins.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No Paul Skins on the season. Yes, is tenes, so
he's ten and nine. So you add twenty five wins
to that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Twenty five wins to where they're at right now, and
that would be eighty nine men right here with the
red lights, with the Brewers at the top of the
National League Central That is crazy, man, that's insane to
think about that. Like to me, Also, if I'm the
Pirates and I know that that is an organization that
absolutely lee is run by an idiot and is not
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a team that cares at all about winning, but that
would tell me, Okay, the margin for error here is
relatively thin, like like or I shouldn't say the margin
of air like. What we have to do is not significant.
We don't have to spend one hundred and fifty million
dollars this offseason. We can probably get a couple of
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guys offensively. And still one of the weirdest Pittsburgh Pirate
stats is that they are nine games over five hundred
at PNC Park. They are twenty two and forty nine
on the road. Wow. Now Paul Skeens will be the
under Stallion's work for the Wow. People are wanting to know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Skeens will be the NL say Young Award winner yes,
right now, he's minus twenty thousand to win that award.
Some other awards that are up. Tarik's scuball right now
often is minus four thousand to go back to back
into cy Young. Garrett Crochet is number two on the
list NL.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
MVP.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Should it be as cut and dry as Otani's minus
twenty five thousand Scharver's plus twenty five hundred?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think it should be a lot closer than that.
I do too.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And in the American League minus Aaron Judges minus three
to fifty. Cal raleyes plus two hundred. Is it that
cut and dry as well?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't think so. We will.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We'll discuss as uh as the show goes on, because
we'll talk some Reds and athletics. Right now, the Oakland Athletics,
not the Oakland. The Athletics prospect Nick Kurtz is minus
fifty thousand to win American League Rookie of the Year
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minus fifty thousand. Austin, that's not bad. He's really good.
He's hid thirty homers. Yeah, we're going to talk about
the A's and there seasons, totics and how good they've
been at some things and how bad they've been at
other things. There's also a crazy stat out there from baseball,
not as lucrative as Paul schemes. But last night these
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Athletics avoided a sweep Austin by getting to a rolldist
Chapman in the ninth inning. A rollist Chapman allowed his
first hit for the Red Sox since July twenty third.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It is what now? What is today?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
September eleventh? He hadn't allowed a hit in a month
and a half. How about a rolldist Chapman still doing
it at a very high level. When's he going to
slow down? I don't know that he will.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You know, there was a thing recently that basically said
it was as simple as he started aiming. Oh, which
is crazy to think about that. Like when he would
throw his fastball, Originally he would just let it rip
and it landed where it landed. Sure, now he's like
focusing on where he wants to throw his Who unlocked
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that thing has become a lot more effective. It's pretty amazing.
I wonder who's unlocked that for him? They said it
was one of the catchers in Boston. I forget which
catcher he was just like, hear me out. It was
like accidentally with the pitch com because you can like
specify with your PitchCom like up and in heater down,
blah blah blah. And Eradus apparently was like, oh, hear
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me out that's true. But hear me out here, what
if we aim these pitches? That sounds ridiculously simple. Yeah,
so I don't want to believe that it's true, but
I've seen that going around more than once.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, reds off day today. But where the races line up?
As of right now? The Blue Jays are three games
clear the Yankees and the Red Sox. In the AL East,
the Tigers now nine and a half clear of the Guardians,
and the Astros hold on to a slim margin right
now they are one game ahead of Seattle Mariners. In
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the AL West, don't sleep on the Rangers as well,
who have won four straight. They're just two and a
half out. Phillies are ten games clear of the Mets.
They look for a four game series sweep today. The
Brewers five and a half clear of the Cubs and
the Dodgers three games clear of the Padres. Meaning in
your American league right now, New York, Boston and Seattle
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are your wild card teams, with Texas a game and
a half out, and in the National League it's the Cubs,
the Padres, and the Mets. With both the Giants and
the Reds just two games back in the NL Wildcard.
Do we know in detail yet how the tiebreaker would
work in the wild.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Card goes to inter division record. So the Reds right now,
if I'm not mistaken, are seventeen and twenty two in
the National League Central. The San Francisco Giants, I believe
are eighteen and twenty three or eighteen and twenty one
so the National League West. Because they split the season series.
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It then goes to their intra division record if they
are tied with their division record, and then it goes
to their record against the rest of the National League.
So right now it's very close between the Reds and
the Giants, which again the basically the rest of the
red schedule is the National League Central. Yeah, okay, And
there was also a tweet that went out today by
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Bob Nightingale, who often posts some questionable stuff. He tried
to say that the Reds being two games back of
the Mets is really them being one game back of
the Mets because they hold the tie break. Unfortunately, that's
not how it works. You have to get to the
same record for it to be a tie, and then
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the tiebreaker comes into Gosh, man, you can't be a
game behind him and say, oh, well, the Reds have
the tie record, they'll go ahead in Yeah, what do
we do?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We do that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Unbelievable, But it's to look at the standings. Yep. I'm
excited about this. I'm fun. It's fun to do this.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Don't do it too much because you already said they're
done now listen, I stand by that.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And tomorrow we're gonna do a pick'em segment. I'm gonna
pick the Jaguars to beat the Bengals, and people are
gonna get mad at me for that too, But I'm
just gonna be honest with you, man. Just that's what
I think, all right. I won't say stuff for the
sake saying stuff. You know what I mean? What you
think is okay? Thanks man.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
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Speaker 3 (19:54):
Austin, have you ever heard of NeXT's Gen Stats? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
All right, so how about this? Chase Brown may have
had the most impressive game we've seen with less than
two yards per carry.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Here, who's we Here's why? Is this the people at
next Gen Status? Yeah? Did they say this?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Per next Gen Stats, Chase Brown had minus forty three
rushing yards before contact.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Minus forty three before contact.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yes, okay, that is the lowest single game mark in
the next Gen Stats era. Yet he finished the day
with plus forty three yards on twenty one attempts. Do
you know what? That tells you? That he's making a
lot of chicken salad out of you know what?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yes? And making people miss.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
There were multiple times where he made multiple defenders miss
in the backfield and got a yard two yards maybe
just got back to the line of scrimmage. Sure, But
what it speaks volumes about Austin is maybe the current
state of the offensive line as a run blocking team.
Now here's the dilemma I have. What did we spend
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a lot of the time talking about the Bengals unlocking
this offseason the run game? Yes, Chase Brown, But at
the same time in building an offensive line, what was
the most important thing when building the O line this year?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Protecting Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So here we can read off PFF grades or how
do they do it protecting the quarterback? But on the
other side of that, they might not be the most
dominant run blocking offensive line that's ever been assembled. Does
this now clash with offensive styles for the Bengals, Because
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on one end, I think they want to be more
of what we saw in the first drive against Cleveland,
running in between the tackles, get a couple of gas runs,
be the more physical team. But on the other side,
you've got one of, if not the best quarterback in
the NFL, and you just paid all these skill weapons
and Jamar Chase and t Higgins around him, and you
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brought back Mike GASICKI. So my question, again only a
game in Austin, who do they want to be on
offense and does that directly match with the personnel that
they have to be that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Right, And I think you feel good about Amarius mims
development as a run blocker, you don't feel great about
everybody else because Mims is still so young and so
raw that okay, there's something there, and maybe it's fair
to say that about Dylan Fairchild as well. But the
reason I think Lucas Patrick was selected over Dalton Reisner
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this year was because that Lucas Patrick, albeit not significantly,
is believed to be a better run Black run blocker.
Then Lucas Patrick is a better run blocker than Dalton Reisner, right,
but his past block became an issue. They signed Dalton Reisner.
He goes in the game, offense really doesn't run the
football well after that whatsoever, and interior of the offensive
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line was dominated by Cleveland. My fear is that after
a game in which things went south on the when
it comes to running the ball and Burrow wasn't in
the rhythm. Kind of circle back to that conversation, that
the Bengals will quickly abandon it. And I hope that
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they don't do that because Chase Brown is good and
he is a part of their offensive identity, and they
did spend parts of the offseason centering the offense around him.
They just have to find a way to better execute
up front and not let one player or a particular
player or a style of defense completely destroy their run game.
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Because you know, everybody wants talk about Miles Garrett, and
Miles played a role, But going back and looking at
the tape, it was I believe Malik Collins for Cleveland
was just ca havoc, just throwing guys around. You can't
allow that to happen if you're a Bengals offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, I just again, so much was made about how
good Chase Brown can be, but they also spent so
much money on the offensive weapons for Joe Burrow, and
they spent money to ideally protect Joe Burrow and use
the draft pick to protect Joe Burrow. But again, and
I'm with you, I hope that one game sample size
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against a good defensive line in Cleveland does not deter
them from saying we got to run the ball. But
does the personnel match that style of run For the Bengals,
That I think is what they have to sort through
because that, again, we talk about rhythm, We talk about
getting to the line of scrimmage, getting the playset, getting
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into the right play. All of that is based on
who you are as an offense. Do you have a
clear understanding as to who you are as an offense
and who you want to be? Because Austin, I think
if you do, wouldn't that give you more confidence when
you're calling the place? Or if you're not as sure?
Are you perusing that play sheet a little bit longer?
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How what do I want to do here? What do
we need to do here? Instead of just saying I
know what we're doing, I know what we want to be,
let's call it and let's go get it.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So I think there is a little bit of a
dilemma there with the calls and the personnel and the
style in which they want to play. And again it's
one week into the season and it's one week. Say
what you want about Cleveland against a good defense in
the NFL. What can you do this week? How does
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it look different this week? Those are the growth or
the lack of growth from game one to game two
early in the NFL season, Like that, to me is
what this is about. That to me is what's either
going to give you the confidence going forward that see
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I knew it they're gonna be good or well. Boy,
now it's not a one game now, it's a two
game sample size. Still trying to figure out how they're
going to do this. Then it becomes an issue. And
that's true in college. You'll probably say true in high
school as well. The teams that can grow from one
to two weeks one to week two, regardless of if
they came out hot or if they won ugly or
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they lost a tough game. How can a team go
from one to two? Preparation film, this is what we like,
this is what we don't like. That to me is fascinating.
And now that is what is being tasked to Zach Taylor,
Joe Burrow and the rest of this Bengals offense. And
I think it'll be a fascinating chess match and a
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calling in.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Hey Jeff, Happy Thursday, gents, well spoken at the open Tony.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I've lived where I lived for so long. I'm basically
a political Now. We are in some interesting times. And
you know, twenty four years ago today we brought our
daughter home from the hospital.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And Saturday and get the walker.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Down the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Crazy wow, crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Big stuff. Definitely big stuff, Austin, there's a couple of
names of my co workers in that book that.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
You had opened today.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Actually, so it is definitely interesting interesting times. But on
to the better stuff. That over forty nine tonight, Georgia
does not have online gambling unfortunately, so that over forty
nine tonight looks so juicy. It looks like a trapped
to me, you like it well, I mean that's only
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twenty five to twenty four with those two teams.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know. I think Micah was questionable too, right
like he's still I don't even know if he's going
to have a full thing.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I think he's gonna be questionable. I've had up and
four z L fives in my back and I'm certainly
not a pro football player. He's gonna be questionable every
game this year. Remember how Joe was questionable with that
wrist after Florio went nuts and what we have to
have an investigation. I think the Packers are going to
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make sure that he's questionable probably most of the year
unless he heals up. So I'm just looking at the
coverage map. I don't know how I'm gonna watch the
game on Sunday, But we get somebody named Chris Lewis
and Logan Ryan on the call, so that's okay. And
of course Nance and Romo could not escape Chasing Chasing
the ghost.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Although I think Buffalo at the Jets is going to
be a pretty good game, I would think you never
know if Buffalo is going to feel coming off that
crazy game, so we should have a pretty interesting weekend.
And that's all for the check in today. Again, thanks
for the open Tony. That was much appreciation.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Absolutely, I hope everything with the wedding goes well. Jeff,
congraduate relations.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I've been running around getting liquor and seltzers and everything
for a day and a half. I'm just waiting for
Saturday to get here so I can start drinking something myself.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Well, enjoy it all, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I have a great one.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Guys, Yes, sir, you know it is that that is
alarmingly low Austin for a total between these two offenses.
But I always go back to my guy Dan Horde,
who says, whenever you're alarmed by something correct, someone usually
knows more than you.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, and I would imagine what's the how I.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Will say, like early in the season, I feel like
there's some opportunities. Maybe they haven't figured things out yet
and you can maybe get Vegas a little bit, but.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
For the most part. How many points is Green Bay
favored by tonight, assuming they're favorite? Yeah, I see here
three and a half. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And as we talked about yesterday with the with the Bengals,
three and a half. Normally home field is good for
like two or three points. Sure, let's essentially a pick
them between two good teams.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Thursday night, short week after the first game of the season. Now,
the Commanders didn't really have to struggle through the Giants.
But that's always a tough one I feel like. I mean,
I'm sure most teams would rather get it out of
the way right away and have to deal with it later,
like the Bengals do. But I always side with the
home teams on Thursday night games. Yeah, whether Mike is
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there or not. Yeah. Just from listening to some Commanders fans,
most notably your buddy Pft from Barstool Sports, he keeps
reiterating that he doesn't think the Commanders have a Super
Bowl roster. Now, this is a Commander's fan being honest
with his media role about the way he views his team. Yeah,
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let's just give some space for that for a second.
I like the Packers to win this game. I don't
know if I'm crazy about the over though.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Both of these teams combine for exactly forty eight in
Week one. Green Bay scored twenty seven on Detroit and
the Commanders, I believe, put up twenty one against the Giants. Now,
I do think the Giants have a sneaky good defense.
They've got some studs on the defensive side of the
ball to put it all together. But to your point,
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the only thing that gives me reason for the over
is the fact that it's a short week and that's
just usually a little bit harder for the defenses. Yeah,
so you probably got guys that didn't practice much or
didn't practice at all going up against offenses that you
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know are already have their stuff in. I think it's
harder to game plan for another team's offense and how
effective that may be than the other side of it.
But either way, I think it's a fascinating, fascinating Thursday
night football matchup. Have you looked at as anything else
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on the weekend slate? And we'll make some picks for
week two tomorrow. Are there any other games that give
you that sneaky good game feel?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Chicago at Detroit Not necessarily that both of those teams
are good, but obviously Ben Johnson returning to Detroit for
the first time. I don't know that the Lions that
we saw against the Packers are who the Lions are.
I think you start people will start completely freaking out
over the Bears if Caleb performs poorly in that game.
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Other than that, no, not really, I'm not. I don't
really find any of those games like, oh, you have
to see him outside of the Eagles and Chiefs. And
I do think Falcons Vikings would be will be a
good game on Sunday Night. But again, it's it's Brian
Floores against a rookie quarterback. We've seen how that goes
sometimes in the past. Pennix isn't a rookie but a
second year quarterback. Yeah, I look at one. I think
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the Bills Jets could be a good one just based
on what we saw from the Jets in Week one.
Over in that game or the total in that game
is forty six and it's crazy, which I think is
a little low, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Because I think the Bills are going to score. But
I was impressed with justin Field and the Jets offense
against a good defense in the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
As you mentioned. Eagles.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Chiefs obviously is a is a big one. What about
the sleeper, what about Denver going to Indy?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't I don't have any thoughts on that. About
the Browns having to go to Baltimore. I trust Denver
to beat the Colts on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What do you make of the Dolphins and the Patriots
snooze fest? Yeah, a little bit disappointing Week one for
the Patriots. Yeah, Strem Raiders extremely disappointing. And I don't
know if you find another team that laid down more
than what the Dolphins seemed to do in the first game.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Right I'll tell you one that is kind of has
my attention is San Francisco at the Saints. San Francisco
only a three and a half point favored in that,
but Brock Perdy is not gonna play, George Kittle is out.
Remember Deebo Samuel's not there anymore. Juwan Jennings, one of
their wide receivers, has not been one hundred percent. Christian
McCaffrey has a history of getting injured. The Dome is
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never an easy place to play, and now their defense
is solid and Robert Salad back coordinating that defense going
up against the Saints, who put up a much better
fight than I think anybody expected in Week number one,
that could be a sneaky game right there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think if you're looking at the lens of the
NFL as a whole, and you're not here in Cincinnati.
I think the Jagson Bengals would be one of those
as well, for nationally to be like, Okay, let's see
what they got going on here. See if Jacksonville can
expand on Week one. Let's see if the Bengals can
figure out things offensively. How's the defense going to play them?
But against the better offense and a team that well
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established themselves on the ground in their Week one win
with a new head coach as their coordinator, I think
that's all fascinating to look at. I also think it's
fascinating Austin to take blind phone calls at times. Can
we do that here? I don't know if today's a
day for that. Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. Well,
let's take an early break. We'll get to our phone lines,
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get in at the end of this hour or as
we get into our number three as well.
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Thanks so I I happened to catch a little ESPN
this morning. Orlovsky fit his top five quarterbacks after the
after week one, and Herbert was number one. Yeah, Love
was number two, Stafford was three, Stroud with four, and
(38:30):
Geno Smith your Raiders. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That was a very quiet It was a quiet but
good win for the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Didn't we throw it for like three sixty or something?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Height threw or three? I was close to the three
bad weather too close? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Gino can
slain it now he's been I mean, anybody who's hung
around the league this long, you know, he's got to
have some value to him or he's still been around
just elite, that's all. I think the Giants are blowing it.
They gotta put Russell Wilson in the refrigerator and Jackson start.
(39:06):
Dart needs to start game be a good one.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I think Jackson Dart is going to be a stud.
And it's interesting because if your day ball, you can't
let this season get out from under you already. You can't.
You can't give Russell Wilson an eight game leash. You've
got to make a decision based on one week to
the next. Who's gonna give this team the best chance
to win? Because I said before, I do think they
got a good defensive team. They they need to find
(39:29):
ways to put up points, and I don't think Russell
Wilson is that anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
They do. They have a quietly good good defense. I
think Danny Dimes. I think Daniel Jones makes this game
versus Knicks, makes this a close game between Denver and
Indy because of Jones' experience and the knicks is lack thereof.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I think Jones in Indy gets the fresh start. Obviously,
people are gonna take note of what he was able
to do in week one, and I think Bo Knicks
was a little disappointed in week one, So there's a lot,
a lot to follow along with here.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
And I know that Tua and those those guys were
talking about how difficult lou Ana Rumo made it on them. Yeah,
and so I'm sure he'll go after bo Nicks in
a way that that I'm sure Bo hasn't seen before,
maybe might not be ready for. So it could, you know,
continue to stall out for that Broncos offense at least early,
but their defense is good enough to keep him in games.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
That's the only reason they won last week. With defense
is bad. You know what the Padre good for the Reds.
The Padres bats could not be softer right now. They
are slumping horribly off the bats. And that was a
hell of the pitchers duel last night. Beteam to that
and Abbott that was a great picture.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I was glad to see Abbot bounce back and have
a good start because as of late he's been a
little bit more inconsistent. You worry about maybe the length
of the season and how much they've had to utilize
him as the bell cow. But now I thought that
was a very very positive step forward last night for
the Reds and for Andrew Abbott.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well they got was careful and not let these as
sneak up on and get them for a couple of games,
because that could easily happen. We'll in their history, right, We're.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Gonna talk about the A's are fourth, the fourth best
hitting team in baseball, fourth best batting average, fourth most
home runs they could.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
They can hit the ball out of the ballpark.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Their pitching staff is not great, but that is a
very very good offensive team.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, they are. They're surprisingly good. They just don't get
any pub, you know, just like the Reds don't get
any national pub, or not nearly as much as we
would like. Anyway, guys, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Thanks so Munch, Thanks Mike, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Uh from Mike to UH to John. What's up John?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
How are you good? Hey?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
First of all, congratulations on the UC Hall of Fame
things a few weeks ago. But congrats on that, Thank you,
thank you. I wanted to talk a little bit about
Reds baseball, even though the guys shout out to you
guys didn't want you guys to talk about him. But
I'm I'm in, I'm in all one sixty two, and
(42:07):
I know that it's at different points. It's been a
tough season and we've thrown dirt on them multiple times,
but these guys just keep fighting back and and uh,
we're here. I mean, we're we're getting towards the middle
of September and we have relevant baseball and that hasn't
happened very much lately. So I'm pretty excited about it.
(42:32):
I think that it's really interesting to see how the
bullpen's been uh come together here with the Maxwell and
uh uh uh uh Connor Phillips, I mean we're kind
of grabbing guys off the scrap heap and and guys
out of Louisville to piece things together, and uh, right now,
(42:52):
it just seems to be working.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, I mean they're they're finding ways. And again it
feels like they're hanging on at times, but they're finding ways. Austin,
I've believe did you mention earlier that the plan has
to use Chase Brown in the bullpen?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, Chase Burns. I'm sorry, raids Red said that, Terry
Francona said prior.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
To the So yeah, that might be some bullpen help
as well. If Chase Burns can give you some innings
down there.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
And I think I think they said Ashcraft might be
coming back to right.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Don't know exactly his his status. I can double check it,
but I know he's still going through the rehab process.
I don't know how yeah, how long it's going to
be before he gets back.
Speaker 10 (43:29):
Yeah, Okay, Well, I think it's interesting how they're handling
Burns and I'm sure they're going to use him very
very just at discretion because of how they handle pitchers
these days. But it just seems like he was pitching
along there and then all of a sudden he just
was shut down, and there was some time there we
kind of needed a few arms. But yeah, it's it's exciting.
(43:52):
I'm a I'm a big baseball guy. I know everybody
loves football now and likes to talk football, but I
I I can get to football here in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
But I just love the.
Speaker 10 (44:03):
Grind of the full baseball season.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, John, we appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Thank you. You know, the update quickly on Graham Ashcraft.
He was supposed to face the live hitters yesterday. Don't
know if that happened. Okay, so no update yet. Hopefully
we'll get something tomorrow from Terry Francona. Chase Burns will
be activated tomorrow and we'll initially pitch out of the
bullpen according to the rest it is.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know, as John mentioned, there was that stretch there
Austin where it felt like they needed some help with
the rotation. And then there was the comments of you know,
the cowboy talking about watching Chase Burns throw the simulated
game or simulated inning. Say, and he's got it. He
needs to be with this team right now. They have
somehow managed to stay afloat, and they will add Chase
Burns to that bullpen. That is obviously an upgrade I
(44:53):
would imagine to bolster the Reds bullpen. We'll talk a
little bit more about the Reds in our number three
when we get back. Our guest the top of our
number two each and every Thursday at football season is
John Sharon. Yes, he'll join us to kick off the
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