Cincy 360 Hour 2 -- 9/23/25

Tony and Austin talk with Joe Danneman, take your TalkBacks, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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talkbacks in just a few moments. But to kick off
our second hour on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon, our guy
from Fox nineteen, joe Daniman, joining us right now.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Joey D. What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Tony b audie E? What's up? Fellas? So, right before
I came on, Okay, so I was killing a couple
of minutes waiting for Austin to call me. I was
thinking back to the nineteen ninety nine Red Seed, which
to me, I was around for nineteen ninety so that
will forever be my favorite team. But outside of nineteen
ninety to nineteen ninety nine team, when I was in

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college going to school with a bunch of Mets fans
in the Northeast with my squad. Okay, and you think
about the parallels of the nineteen ninety nineteen to what
this team is doing right now. That team in nineteen
ninety nine had a final weekend series in Milwaukee in
which they needed to win two out of three against
the Brewers the clunch of playoff spot and the Brewers

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were well below five hundred, weren't a great team. They
lost the first two and then they won that Sunday
in a game that was delayed by range for several hours,
played late into the night, and then they had to
play the one game playoff against the Mets. So with
the Brewers and the Mets all tied together again, I'm
having this nineteen ninety nine PTSD. What's crazy about that team?

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And you think about how much baseball has changed with
the expansion of the wild card. That team in ninety
nine won ninety six games and did not make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember that game, Joe, because I was there. My
aunt took me and my cousin and we sat up
near the top and all I remember was how cold
it was that night and how dominant outlighter was that night.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah five nothing. Let me share one quick story from
that Milwaukee series. So my sister was going to school
at Marquette at the time and she's from Cincinnati, she's
a Red fan. She waited out the entire rain delay,
and again, I think it was like six or seven
hours of a rain delay. And that's right around when
Adam Sandler Billy Madison movies were big. And remember the

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that Veronica Vaughan is one fine piece. Yes, she made
a sign that said that Greg Vaughan is one fine piece.
And she stuck around and God bless her. She was
one of the few people there to watch the Reds
punches spot to play the Mets in the playing game,
a game they did not win.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
This series that starts tonight, Joe, how does this team
handle the atmosphere? It's a relatively young team. Terry Francne
was obviously brought in for a reason. But whatever you
say or try to say, it will and should feel
different when you enter the ballpark tonight. For the Cincinnati Reds,
it's an offense that has been clunky at times, inconsistent

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at times. How does a young team like this or
can a young team like this prepare itself for a
playoff atmosphere and the pressures that.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Come with that. Yeah, And I think it's a reasonable
question to ask, but it feels like this team has
been playing playoff games now for a couple of weeks,
and you talk about the lineup in the inconsistencies with
the hitting off season long, that to me been the
biggest difference here in the month of September, where they
played themselves back in the position to have this kind

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of week start at Great American Ballpark. It just feels
like the lineup now doesn't have as many holes. And
you know, I put on Twitter recently how different the
team looks when Spencer Steer is hitting with this kind
of power, hitting with this kind of run production. But
to me, it's the seven, eight, nine spots that had
been such a difference for this team. When you go

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back and look at this team when they struggle, there
were a lot of easy outs at the bottom of
the lineup, whether it was Matt McClain couldn't figure out
what he was doing, whether the catcher position just wasn't producing,
whether it was Santiago Espanol in the lineup. There were
nights when it just felt like you only really had
three or four guys you had to deal with and
pitch carefully too. Now it feels like but noel Vie

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Marte back in the second half of the season, playing
the way he's played with Matt McClain, if you look
at the numbers since the end of August, has been
a very productive player, and now will Benson thrown into
this mix. It feels like this is a lineup that's
gotten longer, more dangerous, and has more guys that can
beat you on any given night. And to answer your
question about how these guys will react in this moment,

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I feel like they've been playing these kinds of games
for a couple of weeks. I feel like they're ready
for the moment. But the question is will they actually
execute in the moment. That's what we're going to find
out starting tonight against Pittsburgh. The other part of this
too is if I'm the Pirates, this is our world series.
I'm coming to Cincinnati and managing and playing this series

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like this is what we want to do with the
end of our year is we kept the Reds out
of the playoffs. So it's a fun series on deck
and Great American Ballpark. I can't wait to see how
it plays out, especially with the pitching matchup that's tomorrow
Night of Schemes against Hunter Green that's going to be
so much fun. This is everything Reds fans wanted, and
the Mets meltdown is open the door for the Reds

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and the resid taking advantage of it. But to answer
your question, how they react, we'll find out starting tonight.
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I had a conversation with Moe yesterday a little bit
about the rotation. Hunter Green is scheduled to go tomorrow
against Paul Skins, but by doing that, you might not
make them available if you need them for Game one
sixty two. How, if any would would you adjust the
rotation at all? Or are you good with saying, hey,
it's Brady Singer night. We don't want Hunter Green on
short rest because you want to keep the schedule as

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normal as possible. Would you have looked to change that
around at all? Or do you like how they just
keep the rotation what it's been A two part answer.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I like the way Brady Singer has pitched. I would
keep Brady Singer in line to start tonight. And secondly,
I think it might be a good gamble on Terry
Francona's part to have Hunter Green lined up for Game
one of the wild Card series. That's how little faith
I have of the New York Mets. At this point,
I don't know what the Mets is in New York,

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but I've been watching them closely now for six weeks,
almost two months, because I knew they were going to
be part of this race, and to watch that meltdown
of epic proportions has been fascinating. I mean, think about this, guys.
So before the Cub Series started last Thursday, the Reds
were twenty six and twenty nine since the All Star break,

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three games below five hundred, and they had played themselves
to only two games behind the Mets. That's how bad
New York has been. And we now expect New York
to figure it out against the Cubs. Team who buy
the law of averages should play better and should win
some games this week. And in the Miami Marlins, who
are a hot and b have always given the Mets trouble,

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especially at the end of the year. I think it's
a good gamble by Terry Francona that the Reds are
in a good enough position that they can pitch Hunter
Green on normal rest and then have Hunter Green available
to start Game one of the wild Card series. So
I like where the Reds pitching staff is right now
with the way they lined up. I would keep it
as is, and the Reds are doing so plus selfishly.

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To see Paul Skins against Hunter Green in a playoff
race with a handful of games left, it's outstanding. It's
great drama and I can't wait to see that.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
How much of a role do you expect the torpedo
bats to play in the playoffs race?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Here?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I completely forgot about torpedo bats man. It's amazing, how
much crazy, how long it is. That feels like years
ago where that was a thing. I will say this,
as far as torpedo bats go. That made me think
of Ellie, the starting pitcher tonight for the Pirates. If
you haven't haven't started diving into the numbers the last
time he pitched against the Red Ellie, Spear and Benson

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all had big games against this guys. They all had
multiple hits. They got to him early, they roughed him up,
they had him knocked out I would say by the
fourth or fifth innings. So the three guys that I
would kind of circle tonight for guys that can carry
this Reds offense would be those three. I just like
the look of Spencer stear Right now, certainly it feels

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like Ellie and the pressure has been taken off a
little bit by getting that home run. And then Will
Benson's added another dynamic to this team. So those three
guys have had success against this picture for the Pirates,
and those are three guys I'm looking for tonight.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I know it's impossible to ask as we switch gears
to the Bengals, Joe, how do you even put into
words what you witnessed on Sunday with the collapse in
the first half and how the team finished the game
and it just it was a comedy of airs obviously.
Is it a one game sample size that you move
on from or there are serious serious issues right now

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in your opinion with what this team has going on
outside of not having joke.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, I think both, And I think the important thing
for us to do, and by us, I mean people
talking about this game and even fans who are watching
this game and having intelligent conversations about the Bengals and
the rest of the season is to see what we
saw on Sunday and think about that in the big
picture and try to figure out, well, what's the fluke

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and what's a season long concern, and the fumbles returned
for touchdowns in the the tip passes, I think each
of those can take on a life of its own.
And there's a lot of flute that happened in that game,
and the Bengals let go of the rope and forty
eight to ten happened. But this is such a week
to week league. I fully anticipate the Bengals will have

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a good performance on Monday Night Football, and the Bengals
will have a chance to win that game. I think
a lot of times in professional sports, especially in football,
where there's a week to sit on it and think
about it, that can challenge athletes to perform at a
level much higher than they played at the week before.
I fully expect the guys like the Ted Terris and

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the Orlando Browns who have kind of been put in
the crosshairs a little bit this week, to perform better
on Monday Night. But there are season long concerns, and
I don't think I'm reinventing the conversation here when I
say that the run game is right now a five
alarm fire. But that also goes with that. They played

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really really tough defenses to run on now. If the
Bengals are playing and they will play teams that they
could run on later in the year, if they mixed
one of those games in and had a good running
game week, then this conversation wouldn't be so biting. But
I just feel like the timing of the way it's looked,
Joe Burrow's injury and the run defenses they've faced, it's

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really started to highlight some roster construction issues when it
came to the offensive line of the guys they handpicked
to play these spots in what their strengths and weaknesses are,
and right now their weaknesses are showing up. So to me,
that's the season long concern is can they run the
ball at a cliff well enough to be competitive and

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take pressure off Jake Browning. I'm not sure we're going
to get a good read on that anytime soon, considering
the opponents that are coming up here the next few
weeks of the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
When you look at the play of Jake Browning, obviously
you can't lead the NFL in interceptions as back up
and expect to keep your job comfortable for much of
the season. Are you still exhausting other avenues as to
maybe another quarterback out there that you can make a
move for, not to come in and start immediately, but
to get them up the speed in case what we

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saw against the Vikings continues against Denver and so on.
Or are you riding it out with how the quarterback
room currently is.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Somewhere in the middle. I think it's always the conversation
that you have and you take any calls and conversations
people might want to bring to you. But at this
point it's kind of a mood conversation for us to
have because the Bengals are going to ride with Jake Browning.
I don't see anything changing unless this were to go

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drastically south. And at what point did the Bengals still
feel like they can salvage a season by taking on
whatever payroll it might be for a new quarterback to
come in. So it kind of feels like at this
point the Bengals are married to Jake Browning for the
foreseeable future, and it feels like this Monday Night for

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Jake Browning and this team takes on a really, really
important moment for this team because at two and one,
it sounds stupid to say it, but the Bengals are
a first place team sure at two and one, and
we know what's coming after Denver. It's the Lions and
the Packers and two teams right now, it doesn't feel

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like the Bengals can be as constructed and with their
current health. So if they can get to three and one,
that gives them a cushion to drop both of those
games before the schedule starts to ease up. And I
know the Steelers are waiting on Thursday Night Football after that,
but that's not a non winnable game. And then you

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have the Jets, the Bears, the Steelers, the Patriots winnable
games in a runway for this team to put themselves
in position for the second half to be a factor.
So this Monday Night feels like it's circled the Waterloo.
It's proving that this team can stay in the race
for into November, because I think there's a shot for

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the Bengals to win games if they get this thing
figured out on Monday Night. So for Jake Browning and
the entire team, this Monday Night, to me takes on
so much more added importance than we ever thought it
would this early in the season. But it kind of
feels like a moment here for this team to prove
that they can stay in this race blow for at

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least a couple more months.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Joe I have described the Bengals as soft and slow
up front on the offensive line. The word physicality has
been brought up the last couple of days. How do
you get from a group that doesn't feel like it
has a lot of physicality to all of a sudden
does feel like it has a lot of physicality?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Like?

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Is it just as simple as being embarrassed against Minnesota
and everybody talking bad about Youake? How why should fans
believe like there is a turnaround with that group up front?
Specifically those names you mentioned, like Ted Carris, Well.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I think the one thing you could you could lean on,
Austin is that they have done it before. That that
that Ted Carris and Orlando Brown have been good players
here uh in Cincinnati, you know, but you know attrition
years age, that that stuff affects their ability to do
their job at the highest of levels.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Can one week of people throwing darts at them, uh
and them being in the crosshairs of criticism motivate them
to play a certain way? I think that's that's a hope. Uh, certainly,
I think they need to be put in position by
a scheme that helps accentuate that a little bit. But
the fact that all of them have openly talked about

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it and admitted it's a problem from from both head
from both Orlando and also Zach Taylor as well. Uh,
certainly seeing it on tape, living in what they've done
here a few weeks, and there have been clips going
around that we've all seen that have not been pretty,
especially for Ted Carriss coming out of the Minnesota game.

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And he's the guy who will readily admit that he
hated the way he performed and he thought it was
a horrible performance. And we'll see, we'll see how we respond.
But I think the fact that these guys have played
at a level high enough before, especially in the run game,
that I think you have to kind of lean on
that and hope they can find that after a really,

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really poor performance in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
One of those key words for me, I look at
the locker room, and you obviously get a feel of
this by being around and being in the locker room
and getting a pulse on things, But does it feel
like the locker room still believes does it feel like
there's that fight and the thought of we can go
do this. We believe in Jake Brown and we heard
that last week. It didn't show up in the game,

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But seeing and being around the locker room, do you
get the sense that there is that confidence and belief?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I would say, ask me on Thursday, when the Bengals
are back to work and talking about the Monday nights
football game. I can tell you Monday it was. It
was quiet, but not contentious in there. It was a
lot of accountability, and it's been a lot of accountability
all season long from specific players that we've spoken to.

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So I think we'll have a better read on what
it feels like inside that room when the Bengals get
back to it on Thursday. But but when you're when
you're two and one and you have a cornerback that
they do believe in, and again I go back to this,
this is not lip service. The Bengals do believe that
Jake Brown and can help them win games. But can

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heat help them beat elite teams? Is my question. And
elite teams are on deck for this football team coming up.
And the other part of this, two guys is listen,
you know we can sit here and circle and talk
about how important this game is for the Bengals. It's
just as if not bigger, for Denver considering where they're
sitting right now. So it's two and one, it's three

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weeks in prideful guys who have taken accountability for the
way they played. I firmly believe the Bengals will perform
better Monday Night? Will that be enough for them to win?
To overcome an opponent that I look at right now
as a like opponent if they had Joe Burrow? But

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the Bengals don't have them. So I think Denver is
a better team right now. But I do believe the
Bengals will show up and play better football on Monday Night.
I just don't know what the way they're constructed right
now if that's enough to win that game on the road.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
It's heard the sad news earlier this morning about the
passing of Rudy Johnson. Joe, did you have any Rudy
Johnson stories or moments or anything that come to mind
when you think of Rudy.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
A few things that come to mind with Rudy and
so when they were in town for the anniversary, I
snapped a great picture of Rudy Johnson and Chad together,
and I took that picture and I cannot find it
in my phone. If anybody can find it, I'm sure
I tweeted it. I've been looking for that picture all

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afternoon because I remember taking that picture and Rudy wanting
me to send it to him, and I told them
both on that occasion, I said, I know you guys
realized this because you were part of it, but sometimes
when you're in the middle of it, you don't realize
that you guys made football fun again in Cincinnati after
everything the nineties were, then the Marvin Lewis era started,

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and it felt like Rudy and Chad were two of
the engines behind bringing competitive football back to Cincinnati. The
moment I always think with Rudy Johnson as the touchdown
he scored in Pittsburgh in two thousand and five in
December when the Bengals and the Steelers were in a
race to win the AFC North, and it was his
touchdown in the fourth quarter that really sealed the game

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for the Bengals, and it kind of was a changing
of the guard in a moment where the Bengals had
finally beaten the big bad Wolf, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
we're going to win the division. Rudy was a great dude,
a guy we could go to at all times and
get a great SoundBite in a great interview. And he
was such a workhorse man. That guy hit a forty

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three carry game in two thousand and three. That's impossible
for the twenty twenty five mind to wrap itself around.
So good guy, I think was just one tier below
being a Ring of honor guy. I would say he's
one of the better Bengal running backs of all time
and certainly one of the better Bengal players in the

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last twenty five years. Really said pard day for Bengals
fans because Rudy j was a guy Bengals fan loved,
adored and could depend on that the guy took the
rock all the time and was a great football player
here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
He'll be messed Joe, you're the best man. What do
you guys got coming up with Fox nineteen this week?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
So think about this Saturday night in Milwaukee. We're all
pointing towards this weekend right as possibly being the moment
where the Reds clinched a spot in the playoffs for
the first time in five years. Fox nineteen is carrying
Saturday Night's Game Baby, Big Moments for the Reds. It
could be Saturday Night Big Game on Fox. Also tomorrow night,

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Bengals now live in Newport. Rookie linebackers Demetrius Knight Brett
Carter will be our special guest. Get to Newport tomorrow
night at six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Awesome, Joe, thank you so much for your time. As always,
we'll talk next week. Joe Daniman, Fox nineteen getting a
start at an hour number two your talkbacks of course
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Come on now, Come on now, massive talk back day
and a massive sports day here in the city of Cincinnati.
Thanks to our friends here at Cincy Schortz. We'll give
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The Reds right and the Pirates, That's why it's massive, gotcha?

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And it's an off day for the Bengals, which means
nothing bad can happen we hope.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
What was the quote yesterday from the President? I don't
know nothing bad can happen, only good happen something like that.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
Tony Austin, Jeff from As would hey, Jeff, Well, all right, Jeff,
I talked a lot about how the Bengals is gonna
win a Super Bowl with Joe.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, we've got no more Joe. We just got the toe.
So anyway, I still got faith in them.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
They needed humbled. They won two easy ones.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
They got humbled.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
They'll be back.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
All right, it's a huge game on Monday, y'all. Do
they respond?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Look at Joe Burro getting his butt kick.

Speaker 8 (23:25):
Three bad injuries and six years, three bad.

Speaker 9 (23:28):
Injuries and six years.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
The offensive line always lets us down. The offensive line.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Always lets us down.

Speaker 11 (23:38):
Now go tell Old Duke Tooby, go tell Old Joe Rogan,
Evan Lyndell, Jason Kendall in Chadrendall.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
The offensive line always lets us down.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Man, that is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
What's up everybody?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You know?

Speaker 12 (23:57):
Actress performance on Sunday? Should I think of Roger's mental
name being mister because it definitely was his neighborhood there
in Minnesota? And what a game last night between the
Lions and the Ravens. Isn't it amazing when you have
a front office and the coaching staff that knows what
the heck they're doing. Yesterday, Tommy, I said burn to
take to move on. You said, definitely burn them, but
watch them first. But does it really matter when you

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have a coaching staff they still can't prepare after they
watched game fields.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Man, I hope, I hope that those coaches were watching
that game last night.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Hey, fellas, it's VINNI.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
I'm here to be the voice reason again. Last Tuesday,
you guys came to your senses over the Boroughlass. I'm
hoping today after you hear this talk back, Alton, you'll
you'll calm the freak f down.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
The year the Bengals went to the Super Bowl got
thumped by the Browns was horrific. Following year they got
thumped by the Browns, it was horrific, which to the
sc Championship. Last year thump by the Eagles won five
stree at the end. And last night Lamar Jackson got.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Sacked six times.

Speaker 13 (24:55):
You know what, though, he's not made a.

Speaker 14 (24:57):
Glass oh Man, Wow, triple signetti. Oh James Madison, Bloomington
dominating performance over Illinois Champagne last Saturday night. A toast
to the Hoosiers one Talkback, Part two, triple hook forty

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eight to ten. I remember the Homer Rice Bengals days.
I hope it gets no worse. Recharge the batteries.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Got that extra twenty four hours this week. Yeah, we
got some time this DJ. I'd give the guys two
point last night for beating.

Speaker 15 (25:36):
The Ravens or just dominating in the North Detroit gave
us a master class. You physical in the trenches, run
the ball, control the clock. Ye take your shots with
the passing game because you set it up properly, tackle efficiently,
especially with Lamar. Unfortunately, the Bengals are set up to
do any of this because the team was not constructed properly.

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It isn't coached well.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I get it. Yeah, what's up, guys, Big Kahunick Kit Chuck.

Speaker 16 (26:03):
Have you've seen the video forty one to three or
Chase just gets out of the way of a block
I did to Seki. They're saying he's trying to do
whatever he can to get Taylor fire one.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
I hope he is.

Speaker 16 (26:12):
I mean five and twelve, six eleven is not gonna
do it. I'm in for two and fifteen, three or fourteen.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
He's got to give up fifty A couple of times.

Speaker 16 (26:19):
Taylor's gotta get ray in, it's gotta be quick, and
Golden's got to go with it.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And then I'll ask again.

Speaker 16 (26:23):
What I asked about a month ago, or what I said,
who's closer to a championship?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Reds are Bengals? Definitely the Reds. Man by how that
table's turned.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
I just will never root for my teams to lose
so that people will get fired that I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Would you rather just nine and eight every.

Speaker 17 (26:41):
Year Tuesday, Tony and Austin and Shim and Ross. And
at the start of the season, I said, the Reds
won't give you the Blues. They'll win more than they lose.
I think that's so, let's win right into the playoffs. Now,
the Bengals, I gotta take on them. I don't think
anybody addressed if they're not going to change their scheme,
they're not. And if they're not going to change their callplayer,

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they need to find some guys on offense.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
That can tackle. I'll let that sink in for a second.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah, yeah, good tacklers on offense very important.

Speaker 18 (27:15):
Wow wow, watched the game last night Detroit Baltimore. Maybe
they could show some tape of that Detroit offensive line
blowing the Baltimore defensive line back two to three yards
from the snap under center.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Maybe that'll get a long game going. Who did the
under center stuff is more of a myth.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You have to be built a certain way, and they
were without not a Bouquet and Kyle Vanoy last night.

Speaker 19 (27:46):
I'll tell you one thing about Joe Burrow potentially being
out for the season is I could sit on my
couch and watch the Bengals game with no stress, no hope,
no anxiety. I can just sit there and watch the
game and be like, Oh, Jake Browning through his fourth interception.

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Who cares?

Speaker 20 (28:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I can I can never go into a game if
I'm watching the game. I can't just be like, oh,
I'm just gonna watch this and relax. I can't do that.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
It's the Lord. On a still miserable Tuesday, I gotta
start to bench cut commercials that you're tired of seeing.
Peyton Manning commercials, Jason Kelsey commercials, or Patrick Mahomes commercials.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
I'm gonna start Jason Kelsey because I've seen a lot
of those. You looked good in the band last night.
I'm gonna bench Peyton Manning because I think his are funny.
I'm gonna cut Patrick Mahomes because he doesn't really have
that many. Yeah, I'll swap Manning and Kelsey.

Speaker 16 (29:02):
Well if I was in Minnesota this weekend, but automobile,
uh general manager, but a great time minus the Bengals game.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I don't want to talk about that at all. The deal.
Hope Hopium, Hope Hopeium.

Speaker 21 (29:15):
Let's win four out of the next six, sneak into
the playoffs and see what happens.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
I've left this team to die thirty six times this year.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm back on the wagon. Boys, Let's go. Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Can you imagine if like that was your trip? Like you,
A lot of people pick one road game a year.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I feel like I'm gonna go through that in Green
Bay too. Also your yes game, you will Yeah hopefully
not that bad.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (29:40):
Congratulations to the Reds. I thought they were gonna make
the playoffs, then I gave up on them. I definitely
think they're gonna make the playoffs. I think this town,
after thirty five years, they've lost some of the longer
the Reds. Maybe they can get it back. I I
am way more physical then the Bengals offensive line.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I believe that. I believe that to be true.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
Hey, guys four in Atlanta, four Tony, you made reference
to the Bengals looking unprepared. Takes me back to Opening
Day twenty twenty four where they played the Patriots. It
appeared that they didn't even know they had a game
that day. So not only is Zach Taylor dumb, he

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is a terrible motivator.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
He's a four. He did got a thunder? Yeah huh.

Speaker 23 (30:38):
After hearing the passion at Rudy Johnson, I certainly hope
that we can, somehow as sports fans, take a chance
to remember and keep an eye on those younger people
that are coming up now and the guys that are
playing today, and we can learn from the mistakes of
the past, and people can get help for these injuries

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that they don't know about. It's very unfortunate a man
passes because of the love of a sport.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
God Blessed Well said.

Speaker 24 (31:08):
Let's keep talking about should the Bengals get a new
quarterback decided to get one in a free agency It's
really not gonna matter. The reason why is because your
offensive line it's still horrible, and your goal line is
is just as that. So it doesn't matter who you
put out there, who you're gonna put Jameis Winston, It's
not gonna matter. You're still gonna have the same less
time to throw the ball with your offensive line. So
I would just keep running and just say the season's

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over us.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Oh man, that's a dark way to look at things.
I kind of agree with him, though.

Speaker 20 (31:36):
Hey, guys, first and foremost rest in peace. Rudy sent
out photos on my threads and my old Rudy thirty
two a lot of sad face in the just really
liked Rudy Bien's ravens.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Last night was awesome. Filled me with awe.

Speaker 20 (31:47):
Filled me with dread thinking about that match up versus
O Line Tony Addie talkback Nation question. How can we
rise up and amplify this forum, step out of our
shared misery, and apply real pressure on this organization actively
instead of sitting in our echo chamber of sorrow?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
God, I don't know, echo chamber, sorrow, echo chamber. We
need Chub Burrow more than never. Jake Browning's a backup.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
For Red.

Speaker 23 (32:16):
Burrows better.

Speaker 16 (32:19):
To Burrow's better.

Speaker 25 (32:20):
I'd rather do spreadsheets in Excel indefinitely than whatsack Taylor
call another playoff besively. Lou Annarello has the Coast de
Fest playing tremendously. We are Kirsten Cincinnati perpetually.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It's another song that might be Cincinnati.

Speaker 10 (32:43):
Make some noise right now.

Speaker 16 (32:47):
I'm with Red like I'm out of Cincinnati game.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
Reds fans and direct your chap Harker Meal deal, get
a bag of chips, a dog and a drink, Ane
the Crowner Meal.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Hey, yeah, Heino Sware.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Hey Austin, Hey Tony.

Speaker 26 (33:12):
I'm glad you guys brought up the the game last
night with Detroit Dan Campbell watching US on Sunday and
watching that team last night, Dan Campbell and Detroit Lions
make Zach Taylor and our team look like they should
be playing arena ball in Poe Dunk, Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
There's no comparison.

Speaker 26 (33:27):
They're out there, they're hitting, they're not getting pushed around,
they're not playing like candy asses, and they're coaches and
a candy ass either.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
They who they? Was it the thirty two? Yeah?

Speaker 27 (33:41):
Oh sorry, it's wrong, but prayers for thirty two and
his family rest in peace.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Rudy.

Speaker 27 (33:50):
Thank you to the Detroit Lions for beating those classless
Ravens in front of their classless fans. Wow, thank you
for that. And Lamar Jackson coming out looking like Rick
James on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
What are you doing? All right? All right, hey guys,
Marcus from the Grove.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
I've been torn about resetting the rotation for this week.
A part of me says, don't because it's me being
selfish because I'm going to the game tomorrow, so I
want to see Green versus Schimes. But then again, if
Sunday turned into a must win, I kind of want
your ace on the mound. And I'm not a big

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fan of setting up your rotation for the postseason if
you don't make it.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I also think tomorrow you have Green against Schiens, and
you know, like one run.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Could win the game.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah, And so if that's the case, I would almost
rather have have Hunter Green pitching against ball Skiins because
I know it's gonna be the same way for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
They're gonna struggle, so I get it.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I also wonder, you know, in that situation, could Hunter
Green come in the game on Sunday, Yeah, if they
really need him to. Also, I would assume Chase Burns
will be ready to go today for sure. Well again,
those guys are not you. I mean, Hunter Green is
different than everybody in the starting rotation right now.

Speaker 21 (35:30):
But Tony Austin, Jack Irvin College Hill quick talkback rip
Rudy Johnson. When I think of my childhood back, that's
my guy. You know, hate to see that kind of
stuff happen. You know, don't have expectations for the Bengals
going forward. I'm not actively rooting for the tank yet,
but you know, once we maybe find a way to
two and four, if that happens to be the case,

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then you know, top five pick, That's what I'm going for.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
But off my talkback game lately.

Speaker 21 (35:55):
My wife and I just had our second baby, first
born son, So shout out congratulations to Miles.

Speaker 28 (36:04):
I would be remissed if John fer Mount Healthy did
not give a tribute to Rudy Johnson, probably my favorite
Bengal player of all time. In two thousand and five,
I named my beagle Rudy after him. Actually, and Rudy
lived on to be fifteen years. He was a very
long living beagle, so man a tough day. I love

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Rudy Johnson, one of my favorite players. Rest in peace,
Rest in peace, Rudy.

Speaker 29 (36:34):
Thank you, Johnny, Tony, Austin, George in the valleys so
fired up for the Reds game tonight. I'm I'm gonna
watch this one go the next two. I think you
happen to slip up tonight. Probably not gonna be I
to listen to this show tomorrow because I'm gonna hear
Austin be like I see, I told you so.

Speaker 19 (36:50):
I'm gona not listen.

Speaker 29 (36:51):
To that negativity, but uh excited to hear about Rudy
Johnson's family. That's really sad. A two thousand and a
lot of days, Austin still going on.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know, it's crazy that he's not gonna go to
the game tonight but the next two because he knows
you're going tonight and he don't want to cross pass
with you.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, he's ducking.

Speaker 30 (37:08):
No hard Austin, Tony oh Man, grumpy here doesn't up yesterday?
Listen to all the guys jumping off the bandwagon. Uh
two and oh to two and one, five turnovers, a
scoop and score a pick six. That doesn't happen every week.
I don't expect them to be a great team, but

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they're gonna be better, and they were at Minnesota. Who
knows what will happen, but.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, if they're not as good, if they're if they're
like what they were at Minnesota, it's gonna be a
long year.

Speaker 31 (37:40):
Tony Austin in here, Hey, I think they'll bounce back.
It's just too crazy for a football team to lose
like that. But if they don't and that continues, I mean,
the blood is on the hands and we shouldn't be
looking at Zach Taylor. We should be looking beyond on that.

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They deserve to sweat.

Speaker 11 (38:04):
Okay, come to the feat of sacks and strips. Come
fist your stats at UPE being goals. Come pad your
stats with.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
The pigs six.

Speaker 11 (38:20):
Pe if high grade on the being goals, we can't
win the game without any line, no pocket here on
the be goals.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Okay, okay, okay, We're done.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
By the way, Russell Wilson would cost you two million
dollars the rest of this year. Joe Goodbarry tweeted out
seventh round pick for Russell Wilson, pay him two million?
Is Russell Wilson better than Jake Brown? That is one
of the craziest things you've ever said. Right now, is
Russell Wilson better. Yes, two weeks ago he just threw

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for like six hundred yards against the Cowboys. Yes, which
I could throw for a hundred against the Cowboys, four
hundred and fifty yards. Okay, I'm just I'm What do
you do against the Bengals? That was a serious question.
What do you do against the Bengals?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Last year?

Speaker 5 (39:14):
He checked down Charlie and made Jermaine Pratt miss all day.
Jermaine did not tackle, and then the second time around
he was awful. He threw for like six hundred against
the Bengals last year the first game when they just
checked it down to the running How many receiving yards
as the running backs having that game? Four hundred of
them they needed. Jermaine Pratt said, we didn't miss any tackles.

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He missed seventeen himself. Well, he's not missing him this year.
That was a serious question. Russell Wilson's not good. I
don't know that Jake Browning is good either. I'll say
he's better than Jake brown That's fine. That was a
serious question, all right. I wasn't like trying to be facetious,
like is he actually better than Jake Browning? I don't

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know that it's that big of a difference, and I
think for two million, I think, would I sure I
get it? Kick the tires on that we got football?
I think that would be extremely detrimental to the locker room.
When's the last time you heard a teammates say something
about how much they love Russell Wilson. I think a
lot of his teammates like Russell Wilson. I think they
all cringe at him because he's corny.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I think a quarterback signing would send a message to
the locker room that they are going all in Still.
I think the longer you ride it out with what
they have, I think it says we're just content slipping
into the abyss. Got ea spell abyss A lot of ESS's,
and I think there's a y in there. Football in
the Natti's next hour two on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

(40:43):
Sports Station.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Hey want to hear something.

Speaker 32 (40:46):
This is Football in the Natti, brought to you by
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the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yes, football in Natti means we talked about football here
on SINCY three to sixty. Just a moment here, not
just about the Bengals. You see Austin opens up their
Big twelve schedule. This is the second Big twelve game
for Kansas, but the first for the Cincinnati Bearcats. They
take on or they travel to Kansas. It's an eleven
am local start in Kansas.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Noon here.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's a TNT game, I believe, but you can hear
the game on the station right there down the hall.
Kansas one loss on the season, it's at Missouri. That's
a good Missouri team. They lost forty two to thirty
one on the road. You see, potentially could be without
Dante Corleone. We will find out more as the week
goes along. Most said this yesterday though, and I agree

(41:39):
with it. This game, for me is what kind of
the season hinges on. If you're the Bearcats. If you
find a way to win in Kansas, you start thinking
about the path forward and what the Bearcats can do
if not. You follow that up with Iowa State ranked
fourteenth in the country coming into town UCF and then
you do get to go to Oklahoma State, who's not
gonna have Mike Gundy because they fired Mike Gundy today,

(42:01):
no longer a man, no longer forty My Gundy out No,
he's still a man.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Okay, he's not well as far as I know, he's
still he's well over forty.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, but that is what the Bearcats have coming up.
We'll talk more about that game as the week goes on.
For now, one more break, a touch and go and
we'll get to our number three. Since he three sixty,
Thanks to our friends at Cincy Shirts on ESPN fifteen thirty, you've.

Speaker 32 (42:26):
Been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN fifteen thirty,
the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Still kwise, he continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports
station time Bomb the Bottle.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Our number three is next. Since he three sixty, Thanks
to our friends at Cincy Shirts, Zach Taylor said, what
got a couple audio clips of Zach Taylor's press conference
yesterday that I would like to play and I thought,
Austin we could.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
React to them, Zachie ballgame.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
That's next on the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,
Cincinnati sports station

Speaker 3 (43:12):
The Bay