Cincy 360 Hour 2 -- 9/10/25

Tony and Austin react to Zac Taylor, take your calls and TalkBacks, talk Bengals/Jags, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Fulcome back our number two thanks to Cinci Sharks. Let's
get right to it. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports
Station Wednesdays at one o'clock, the head coach of the
Cincinnati Bengals takes the podium that is where Zach Taylor
is at right now speaking to members of the media.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
A hospility to come back for it or it sounds
like it's going to ride that time frame, So we'll
just put him on our and then get from there.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
So it's not gonna be season ending, you would imagine,
spoke Kilie William Cohen last year.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
He now has a shot Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Just your thoughts on what they did in week one?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, good jo, I mean getting that first one. I
mean sometimes they make you wait till December to get that.
So you know, for Liam William to clear it out
is good, you know, for for their well being. But
you know, now it's our opponent, so we're focused on
I'm making them unhappy this week.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
What is the is the background in your relationship with Liam?

Speaker 6 (01:11):
When did you first meet?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I was first. I was aware of him before I
met him. I was at Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati. We
were getting ready to play somebody and they were playing Maine.
The tape was Maine's offense first whoever we were playing
Yukon or Temple or whoever it was, and it was
a really well coordinated offense, and so I looked up
who the coaches were and the coordinator was a guy
named Liam Cohen. Waited for national championship at UMass quarterback,

(01:35):
so I could see all the trades there. And fast
forward a couple of years later. I was in LA
and I was moving from assistant receivers to quarterbacks, so
we need someone to fill my job. Shane Waldron recommended
a guy that he'd worked with at UMass and William Cohen,
and so I jumped on that. When I heard the name,
I said, that's that's I don't know him, but if

(01:56):
you tape your resume, he's pretty dann good. So we
interviewed him, hired him, worked with them for a year,
and then we've just stayed in touch ever since.

Speaker 7 (02:03):
How do you know if an offense is good, like
well coordinated, I'll take if you've never liked.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Well, I mean, they know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's it's the way they attack the defense, the way
all we haven't operate. I remember, I think Maine at
the time was they were under center, running West Coast
like elements that i'd been taught with a quarterback that
was performing really well. So you could just I mean
enough for me to look up and say, who is this?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:26):
And so it was the first time his names on
my radar.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
What's the biggest message for the team, the biggest point
of emphysis I come out last week going into this week.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Fore well, the turnout battle number one is so critical,
you know, to go to zero Jacksonville Lee's the league
right now and in that margin there first we're tied
for second. So I think that's that goes a long
way and deciding these early season games is the discipline
aspect of all this stuff and works outed to be
at home, I mean, I mean to be one to
know and come home and I know our fans are

(02:53):
juiced up and so I know these guys. That's going
to be a big part of this game too, is
using the home field advantage to our our advantage.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
There, what's Burrow like after a week where maybe the
offense isn't as good as y'all want it to be.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
What's he like in the week leading up to the
next game.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
He's focused on winning, you know, And so I think
for all of us to get that first win, knowing,
knowing how things have gone previously.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Imagine you could edit your podcast just like a dog.
That's what we get, you know, that's YouTube.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, weekend added a podcast in the second half there
to be able to put more points on the board
to help our team.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
And and so I think none of us run from
That's like preparing Travis Hunter. I mean, he's a he's
a really good talent. You know, he's.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Didn't play a ton on defense, played mostly on offense. Uh,
he's got great quickness, you know. I think he's he's
got really top matched hands in terms of the balls
he's able to catch, not easy to bring down. You
can see the breakaway elements to him. He almost almost
kind of got away with one in the last game
where where you can see he's got that element to

(03:59):
break it way and making a big play. And you
saw that on a state from Colorado. So a guy
with a lot of confidence. You always felt the confidence
to be able to play two positions, and they'll keep
I'm sure integrating him.

Speaker 8 (04:10):
However, they want to al about Cam on Monday, and
he said that there. Cam was the first guy to
come up to him and say he'd like to have
some of those things back. Is what you saw from
Cam and training camp in terms of the things that
you wanted him to get better at. Did you see
that consistently enough so that things that didn't go right
against the grounds you don't feel like it will spy.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I did. I mean that now it's just you
to prove it. You have proved that it's going to
be consistent during the season. But I thought KM had
a good training camp and we got a lot of
confidence in him. Some of the players were not not
his best plays in the game the other day, and
so again I see better than I hear. To just
show us that you're going to improve on that, and
I trust that he will.

Speaker 9 (04:48):
See DJ turn improved kind of from the first day
of training camp to the end and obviously have a confidence.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
In a month on it always competitive, you know, he
just he had a small step back there for about
a week and a half at the end of camp,
but now he's back for you, healthy and performing well
and earning opportunity and again goes out there in the
fielding game and just just does what we want him
to do. And so proud of him for the way
that he responded to that and accumulating more reps for
himself and prove that he deserves to be out there.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
After a bit of a slow start to camp.

Speaker 9 (05:16):
Do you feel like that day where he had like
twenty past breakups was kind of big for him to
get gone.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's like I think now it
feels like training camp is just there for the negatives,
you know, and it's it's less about for us internally,
it's just building. It's building and we're going to get
exposed scheme wise, We're going to get exposed personnel wise
as part of training camp as you get your feet
underneath you, and then the key is just getting ready

(05:41):
for the first week of the season. That's our main goal.
But it just feels like so much now it's it's
targeted towards all the bad things that are happening, when
in reality that's part of the growth process for everybody.
So I don't some of those Some of those times
are matchups. You know, when you match up 's Tea
and jamorrow, that's gonna be a tough, tough training camp,
and so on his way. Really probably the way that

(06:01):
dj has just competed and and you're getting the best
version of him, and that's awesome to see and I
think all of our dbs continue to grow from that,
and training camps good for all of us.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
One of the dbs was Jordan Battle was very noticeable
in his impact on Sunday. Is that part of the
scheme change with a new defensive coordinator? Is that just
his developments?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I think it's a little bit of everything. I think
it's it's just the growth in this league. I just
saw him playing really fast as an open field tackler,
as a communicator. That's that's what I felt from Jordan.
And so the energy that we see all the time
off the field, you really felt that on the field
and I was I was happy to see that.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Because we're going to need that.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
And again, Jordan's a guy who's got the leadership qualities
and he's got the point to back that up as well.

Speaker 10 (06:47):
Damn picture was telling us act that don't read too
much into usage in terms of turning into trends offensively.
How much do you have to keep that in mind
as a head coach that you know, I'm just focus
on what the game plan dictates as opposed to trying
to get guys working.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Well, it's all of it. It's all.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Every opponent we're going to face is going to be
a little bit of a different tweaked plan for us.
We have our bread and butters that we're always going
to subscribe to, but at the same time, we're going
to attack the defenses as we think is best to
attack it, and so that could be different usage.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
For different guys. There is a balance. We have great players.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I want them to be involved, and so you're always
trying to find ways to make sure they're involved. The
ball might not go their way based on the coverage,
based on what gets called off the sheet, based on
a lot of different things, but you try to have
an intent to involve guys as best you can.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
What did you make a Matrix Nights debut?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I thought he played fast as well, you know, I
thought he thought he did in a really nice job
tackling which is which is critical, I think for a
rookie in their first real game and all the energy
and excitement that goes with that. So again I thought
that obviously there's some things I think you're going to
point to every player on our team that could.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Do a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
But I was I was really exc I did to
see the element of calmness that that he and a
lot of the rookie's played.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
With it seems to really enjoys. I just think he
enjoys football.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, you're talking about a guy who's married, he's
got kids, Like he understands this is more than just
a game. This is a this is a way of
life for him, and he's kind of had to have
that on his shoulders every step of his career. And
so you see a guy that approaches his job that way,
like he's trying to feed his family. And that's that's

(08:30):
the play style you see when he's out there and
he's genuine he loves doing it. It feeds you know,
I think the rest of the team feeds off of that.
I feed off of that. And and so again he's
doing it for all the right reasons and you're getting
his best well I think he's got a tremendous arm.
He can be very accurate, he can process, he can

(08:51):
make plays with his feet. So Jacksonville historically has always
been an explosive team. They've always had a great speed
moment to it. I've had explosive backs and then he's
back there operating the whole thing. And so I've I've
watched Jacksonville a lot over the years seeing seeing Trevor
when he's at his best. Thought, he played well in
the first game, and so again he's he's a very

(09:12):
difficult quarterback to to play against this league.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Thought on the special team.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, you kids, there was a lot of great things
that happen in special teams. You know, I think you
know you just take the clip of Taj's tackle on
the on the kickoff play. Uh, just the leverage everybody
was playing with across the board and that's you know,
dj Ivy playing with great leverage and Warren and there's
a bunch of guys on that clip that allowed for

(09:40):
Tage to do what he needed to do. But then
just the pump protection Tyson Anderson is the PP and
the pump protection on the final punt, you know, the
plus fifty depend him on the one.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
PJ.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Jewles has not played a lot of gunner for us
to get it down there. So just the extra point
the pats and the field goals converting for us.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
There's a lot of things to like there, and.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I'm excited for those guys continue to improve and really
be an elmet that helps us win games.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
Do pound.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Doround Yeah, yep, yeah again, Yes, a lot a lot
to be. A lot of situations that came up for
us that I thought we executed very well. You know,
the backup plunt's tough when we're back in there on
the two yard line or wherever it was, and then
the game ceiling plus fifty to put it on the one.
So there was a lot of things that I think
those guys really stepped up to help us win a game.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
You reference to home opener earlier. What are you looking
for from Bengals fans?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, here's exactly what I'm looking for. I know how
loud we're going to be, and so let's do it early.
Let's show them right out the gate. I think when
Sam Hubbard is up there as the ruler of the jungle,
every seat is packed and and I'd love to look
up just for I'm just asking for one game, a
ten minute sacrifice from the parking lot, and so that
that might just mean getting up ten minutes, ten minutes
earlier and getting to the stadium ten minutes earlier than

(10:58):
you normally would. And so do whatever you want of
those extra ten and then that extra ten getting in
the stadium. And so when when Sam's the ruler, I'm
kind of looking up at that escalator that's to my right,
and it's it's like, you know, and maybe people just
appease me and stand at the bottom, so I can't
see as he's up there, but I would love to
hear that.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Just week one.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
The rest of them, you can, you can tell, get
a little extra longer. But I think for this first
one to be awesome, just to send the message to
the team, we got to do our best to start
to we know, and for all the great things that
we want to do this year, it starts with playing
great at home. And that's a collective effort from our players,
our coaches, our fan base. And so I'm excited to
set off twenty twenty five the right way at home

(11:38):
and Orange we're oranged out, you know, and the jersey
is great and our guys be fired up.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
That's something you keep track of. Someone like that, you
keep track's on the escalator for game.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, that's just.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
My line of sight.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
As I look at the ruler of the jungle, I
can see right a guard them, I see an escalator.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Keep track of how loud the atmosphere is, kick off
like when you get in, like the vibes.

Speaker 12 (11:58):
Here or something like.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
If that's something that you no.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, But in this game, I want to I'm going
to So that's one time, one time for me. Usually
I'm I'm talking about the first call and hash and
all the other things that are the distances and all
that kind of stuff. But for this game, for one second,
I'm going to look up there and see everybody in
their seats. Yeah, pretty cool, you know, pretty cool. I

(12:26):
just I I knew at some point that happened, and
happened right out the gate, and you know, it's a
lot of great memories of him, So I think it's
pretty neat to see him out there aware.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So talk about what you've seen in terms of progress
from Trevor.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
Maybe a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Now he doing better at this stage of his.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Game Trevor Larnt.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I just think he's always shown capabilities to play the
revable and so he's a really difficult task for a
quarterback from watching his days in college playing the tea
and all those guys, and so again it's it's we
got to work cut out for us with this team.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Come along those lines, and then as a sorry can
come off if you know this game with number one
overall picks and as an offensive coach who's a play
caller as well, when you have a guy that that's
talents as a quarterback, what's the best thing you can
do as a coach and nurture that talent and make
sure they maximize their potential at the end, Like I.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Have a great team around them. Obviously you give them weapons,
and they got a lot of weapons. You know, they
got a really good defense. I think these guests play well.
They've drafted over there these last couple of years and
coordinator's done a great job with them. So overall it's
a it's a good team and we got to work
cut out for us.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
With all the talk about the hot start and starting fast.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
How aware of you are you of your Week two record?

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Zero awareness?

Speaker 13 (13:43):
Figured?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
What would it. What would it mean to win? It
would be your first win in week two since been
coming head.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, I just want to be too and O. I
know I haven't been to an O some seveing here
that I can tell you. So, But again it's it's
not that part doesn't matter. Our team just each week
has focused on really simple things starting week one, and
it's the same focus for week two and so big
picture wise, that doesn't concern us. What concerns us to
start and how I want to know at home, and

(14:08):
then that puts us best foot forward to do all
the things we want to do in our division and
so on.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
So we just keep it a lot.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Simpler than than the things that are probably more fun
to talk about.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
But in our rooms, it's it's a simple as that.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
It became a thing at the end of last year
to send Joe Jamar and t out of coin toss.
He did it again on Sunday in Cleveland. It feels
like a small thing, but it is that something you
think about or it's just going to ride it.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I've worn the blue jacket that I have on every
road game since we've been winning, so I'm gonna keep
wearing this. Got all my kids' names in it, and
I'm going to keep sending jo Ja, mar and te
out there until I decided that's not what's best for us.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
All Right. That is most of Zach Taylor speaking to
members of the media today. How about that question from
James how about the idea that he's not won a
week two games since he's been the coach of the
Cincinnati Bengals. It's crazy, that's insane. I was just looking
it up while he was talking. Do you know his
career record as a head coach including the postseason? No,

(15:09):
he is fifty two, fifty four and one. He's very
close to getting over five hundred as a head coach. Okay,
we're inching up on it. We're getting closer. Also, did
you know that he won the Greasy Neil Award in
twenty twenty one? What's that named after? Greasey Neil? A

(15:32):
Red's legend, Greasy Neil, A Greasy Neil. Greasy Neil was
a football player and a head coach and a baseball player,
and he was like a legend in the nineteen nineteen
World Series for the Reds. Do you remember a few
years ago when Ellie stole second third home. Sure. The
last person to do that was Greedy and Neil. And

(15:53):
I didn't know that there was an award named after
Greasey Neil and it is presented by the Maxwell Football
Club to the top head coach of the National Football League. Really,
and Zach won it in two thousand and one. I
would have never Yeah, write that downright, Zach Taylor. Apparently, Uh,

(16:16):
there's a touchdown Club of Columbus NFL Coach of the
Year that is considered the Paul Brown Trophy. These are
things I'm learning for the very first time. Oh, unbelievable
good stuff from Zach Taylor. Zach's gonna be paying attention
to Sam Howard though, just for one game, just for

(16:36):
one game. He's so full of crap. He definitely goes
up there. You definitely, you know he watches it. Everybody
watches it. It's cool, it's fun. Yeah, yeap. He can
try to fool us all he wants. Yeah, coach speak.
I'm so focused on the game. Mind. If he focus
on getting the calls in a little earlier. That was
not asked, at least not from what we heard, that

(16:58):
was not asked. We want to know. We'll ask the
hard hitting questions. Later in the week, we got a
I mean, we staid. John Sharon's gonna join us tomorrow.
Charlie gord Smith on Friday. Yep, we'll get an answer.
One way or another. We'll get an answer. Uh, you're next.
As a listener your talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
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Speaker 14 (17:19):
Hey, let me hear you good loud oh wand h
too ah free, Let's listen to some talk back. Listen
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(17:44):
We hope those other.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Two divert come back. Come on to ohing comes most show.
You're darn right, we GOTNK right. I even hurt Hank
in a while. Hank was here on Monday. Okay, okay,

(18:06):
shut hey, Red's only three back in the wild card.
Hank said that he was on load management during baseball.
He's back for football, which I was glad to hear that.

Speaker 15 (18:18):
I'm glad to have who humped everybody got my mic
Ezekie babahad.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Today I go the Jags. I think the offense bounces back.
I think it's a T. Higgins kind of day. For
some reason, I got a question about you sitting in
the box score.

Speaker 13 (18:37):
He had zero targets, whether a healthy scratch or did
Joe just not find him who.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't think he was open. I don't think he
was targeted much that right there.

Speaker 12 (18:49):
Though.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It gets me excited because when we were in here
yesterday Austin, there was a sales meeting going on and
they started talking about holiday packages and it got me
thinking about the holidays. And then we hear that from
Yosi Vasha they're selling packages. I'm ready for the holiday season.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Man.

Speaker 16 (19:06):
I think there needs to be like a study done
on us Reds fans, because you know, my brain's telling
me we've been hurt so many times before. It's like
a crappy relationship where you know they're bad for you,
but they bring so much joy to your life, and
then all of a sudden, it seems like they're crappy to.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You again, and then out of nowhere.

Speaker 16 (19:23):
They creep up all these positive things they keep doing
for you, yep, just to get heartbroken in the end.
But maybe they won't break our heart this time.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Or am I being naive? Your nie? Everything's good till
they start reaching for the bottle. Yeah, you start thinking,
and it's like, well, this time they're different. Yep, this
time they're changed. And then events.

Speaker 17 (19:40):
Startinch cut Matt McClain makes the opening day roster for
twenty twenty six, you see makes a bowl game, or
Joe Burrow finishes the season without getting hurt. Love the show, guys,
Oh hope you have a great day.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm gonna start Burrow finishing the season without getting hurt,
just because I'm gonna speak that in new existence. Okay,
I'm going to bench uc making a bowl game, and
I'm going to cut Mac McClain. That's what I'm doing.
I'm gonna start U see doesn't make a bowl game.
I'm gonna bench Matt McClain. I'm gonna cut Joe Burrow
gets old at some point.

Speaker 18 (20:13):
Oh, Tody, Austin George from the Valley of the Reds
are back boys.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
What you should do?

Speaker 18 (20:20):
So also go vote for Night for Rookie of the Year. Hey,
I like you just get with Tony Pike though, so
we what we need to do TP is at the
before the Hall of Fame. You need to go through
like all your great games and talk about him so
you know, people can get familiar that don't know about
how great you were.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, we're pretty much. We're pretty much. Wow how much done?
That was the only wow? Wow? Tony Boston, Chuck Bundle,
what's up? I have a blog. I have a website.

Speaker 9 (20:57):
You don't know what you're talking about because I have
an ap vote Bear Pets one through twenty five.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
You say you don't know who they are.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
I know.

Speaker 9 (21:09):
I live at Camp higher Grounds, Chet Brundle out.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Hey, Tony and Austin Ken from Hilton Head.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Here, Ken, you hear those ways?

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Oh my god?

Speaker 12 (21:24):
Here, uh, Tony, let's hear some more of those stories
from your playing days.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Those are great here. God, I like hearing all that stuff.
And also, you know, I get frustrated with the red
but I'm not giving up one of them yet. Come on, guys,
you can do it, Tony, Peter, let's get them going.
God listen, there are there are a few times in
life where I can hear something and I can close

(21:50):
my eyes and I can be at that at that spot,
Ken right now is sitting on a beach and you
can hear because there's always that that heavy breeze at
the beach, and hear the waves crashing in. I could
take myself there right now. Do you on your phone
ever use the background sounds to help you sleep?

Speaker 19 (22:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I do. I do this every night. And there's a
bunch of different background sounds you can use. There's like
a bright noise, dark noise, rain stream. I choose ocean. Okay,
this is this is what happens. What sounds like m
waves just crashing in. Yeah, I could. I could transport

(22:32):
myself there right now. That's when I sleep every night.
I hear that. Should we do like a box score
from a random game of your college career between now
and every week between now and Okay, I like that.
Do you mind if I put some bad games in there?

Speaker 20 (22:47):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Whatever and whatever anything.

Speaker 15 (22:50):
Just don't normally hunt jaguars. Are you the hunter or
the prey? I ask, how do you? How do you
spell them prey? P r A y because there's a
lot of praying going on.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
No defense? What p r E y? Jim, you need prayer?
That's from no praying?

Speaker 21 (23:12):
Yeah, the lady went to ap Pole. You don't have
to be perfect, but you gotta put South Florida ahead
of Florida. You gotta have common sense, Lane Kiff and
shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 22 (23:25):
No.

Speaker 21 (23:26):
I mean, I'm a gambler, but there's no way he
should say that. I'm excited about this Bengals front seven.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Let's get after it, all right. I feel like in
the gambling world, you got to know when to hold
them and you got to know when to fold him,
when to walk away.

Speaker 23 (23:46):
Richmond, Happy Wednesday to you never count your money in
this game? Yes on Saturday. I know we have no
business playing this team. I'm just wondering, what's an except
double outcome for you? Is it a fifty to nothing blowout?
I mean, what is it that we want to see?

(24:08):
And I was curious if you would ask Dan that
question as well, what does he want to see you
on Saturday?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Minnesota? And don't do they still row the boat in Minnesota?
I don't know. Is that that that same coach that
rows the boat? Ain't nobody don't know any thing about Minnesota? Man,
he's the you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 24 (24:24):
Tough?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, he ROSEEJ something Yeah on PJ Street, PJ Fleck
Fleck Yeah, yeah, so that's what you get in your teeth. Yeah,
he still rows the boat. They they were up on
the Northwestern State Demons. Demons thirty five nothing after one quarter.
They were beating them fifty nine nothing at the half.

(24:45):
I would like to see the Bearcats win this game
by fifty points. I'll start there.

Speaker 22 (24:52):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan will Sunday HiT's
paint for the jungle Orange. Well, normally a Bengel doesn't
eat anox, but if they're hungry enough, they will.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (25:11):
Yeah, I can't remember which one of you guys said
you were a uniform nerd, but James Rapine has a
black helmet with orange stripes in his display.

Speaker 11 (25:24):
Behind him when he does his podcast. That helmet would
look freaking awesome with orange jerseys and white pants. No,
no good, people that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Know, I disagree with you on that. I don't know
if I like that combination, but I feel like that
guy's voice. I could listen to him read a story.
I don't think a black helmet would look good with
this week's combination. I think the Bengals are maxed out
on their helmets because they have the all white one.
But you can buy those. I know they used to
them at the pro shop, used to sell them all
the time. They're really popular. I've never been a big

(26:00):
fan personally, but I know a lot of people do,
like I'd like to hear him really.

Speaker 12 (26:03):
Okay, So that Jaguars Bengals betting line three and a half,
that's that's very, very weird. You get three points just
for being at home two to three points. So are
they saying that they're even teams?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (26:17):
That's a that's a weird line. Also, there is a
team that's going to catch it. It catch the Mets,
but it's going to be the Giants. Yes, And also Austin,
I would definitely rethink that, uh that Packers proclamation before
the season.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well I did, I said the next because the next
day they traded for Micah Micah and I said, okay,
that might be enough to get them into that tier.
It feels like with the spread on some Sunday, someone
could be hiding something. Well they're At the same time, Austin,
you've been a proponent and trying to tell people. You've
told people all off season about this game, and I

(26:51):
think that is being shown in what the line is
right now.

Speaker 25 (26:57):
Hey, Mike, who would win a panther or a jaguar
or a polar bear? Probably a polar bear. How much
is the polar Bear a way though a lot enough
to break the ice.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Ha ha. But hey, this dj O Lord the Bengal
promo for the Jags Bengals game.

Speaker 23 (27:19):
I could have done without Mike's assessment of animal kingdom.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I thought that was one of Mike's best Kingdom's Jaguars
versus I learned something and jaguars jumping out of trees.
Come on, Mike, you're killing me. I learned something today.
There's some great videos if you ever look it up,
of jaguars, uh, stalking alligators. Oh, and they like dive
into the water hunting alligators. It's fascinating to watch.

Speaker 26 (27:46):
Good Afternoon. Two things, Fellas Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's all hype. They are not going to touch us, okay.

Speaker 26 (27:52):
And I was wondering would it be possible for Mike
to get his own segment like the Mike Minute, so
we could kind of know what time he was going
to be on every day?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Thanks, I don't think Mike knows when he's going to
be on every day. The Mike Minute. Yes, we can
sponsor it. He gets about a Mike hour every day
between our show and we sponsor it. Hey, Fellas gets.

Speaker 9 (28:13):
At them, and you know, I think Forrest Gump said
it best when describing the Bengals. It's like a box
of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
There's such a Jekyll and High team that the offense
could be brilliant and the defense can stink, or like
last week, the defense can be good and the offense
can stink. There's such a Jekyl and High team that

(28:34):
you just don't know until kickoff what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Do you guys agree?

Speaker 23 (28:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I don't think they're jeckling hide. I think for the
most part, you know what they're going to be offensively,
and I think Water will find its level a little bit. Defensively.
I think they're they're better than what they were last year.
I don't think they're going to be as good as
what they were able to do Sunday all year. I
think it's fair to say that the Bengals secondary is
Jekyl and Hyde because some times four bodies. Yeah, Like,

(29:03):
sometimes those guys look like sometimes and other times they
look like it's their first time on a football field.
So I would say that element of them is definitely inconsistent. Hey, Hey,
I was just wondering why do they call it pa
us interference?

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Shouldn't they call it catch interference?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well? That is that rule is so stupid. They're interfering
with the past that was thrown. The amount of times
that that is called on passes that are uncatchable is disgusting.

Speaker 27 (29:34):
With the main concern being Jacksonville's Travis n Ten, it
could be a big get day for linebackers for the Bengals,
including Grin and Barrett, Carter, Soren or In, Burt, Demetrious Knight,
and the Pips and Logan. Hello, mister Wilson Bengals thirty

(29:57):
to twenty.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Good day. Now, see that's a way at our our
own hearts. Yeah it is. You throw some name game
out there. You know who starts tomorrow night for the Packers?

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Who's that?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Jordan? I can't help, but I can't help falling in.
I won your best one.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
Now if we get Joe today, all you beat writers
who listen into the show, will you please ask about
getting the plays.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
In on time?

Speaker 13 (30:18):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Someone do it?

Speaker 9 (30:20):
Get hit with that one that we know of.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, I know Rappeen don't got the gun. Now we
try to call him to make him do it today.
It's actually not a joke. I like, I'm busy trying
to call James before the show to ask him a
question about something important. He just ignores it. Bad, busy,
what's up? Are bad? And you know are bad? By

(30:43):
the way, this is your show. By the way, tomorrow night.
What a Thursday night game that is? I know, starting
off hot.

Speaker 23 (30:54):
Afternoon. This is Kate from Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I have time this talk pack inside with the cut
in the hill on seventy.

Speaker 23 (31:02):
Five North, coming home from the airport.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Beautiful Cincinnati.

Speaker 12 (31:08):
Paper Stadium, great American ballparks, the River.

Speaker 26 (31:11):
The bridges.

Speaker 12 (31:12):
We're lucky to live in Cincinnati for the greater Cincinnati area.

Speaker 21 (31:16):
Two day.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'll tell you what, much like that beach conversation earlier,
I could put myself in the exact spot she was into. Yep,
never gets old repping the city out here. It'sny Man.
That video got me super hyped.

Speaker 20 (31:30):
I'm ready to run through the wall with snop buffers
already showing my stripes. Jacksonville about to get beat down
thirty five twenty one Bengals Burrow three eighty three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
This is going down.

Speaker 20 (31:41):
We're gonna see the Kitty Gritty by Mike and uh Bearkats.
We know you're gonna blow this team out. I'm not
biting that apple. I already told you what it was.
That coach is hot. That's he gonna stay hot. And
dang did it Rids win? I think they did it.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
The kitty gritty I like that a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
New Tony Austin, that's he in here. That first game,
I instantly felt relieved, even though it was the Browns.
It doesn't matter. The defense is already better. We're gonna
get into the playoffs, okay, and that's when we are dangerous.

Speaker 13 (32:23):
Okay, okay, Hey, Mike get from La You got me
doing a little bit of thinking about a tiger and
a jaguar. So the jaguar has the strongest bite of
any big cat, at up to two thousand pounds per
square inch, which could could crush the tiger the skull
of a tiger, but the mouth of a jaguar can
only open up to eleven inches wide, and the head

(32:45):
of a Bengal tiger is up to twelve inches wide,
so he.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Can't even bite him. Take that? Oh okay, all right?

Speaker 24 (32:54):
As Michael from Covo, hey are you negative Bagel fans?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Shut up? Oh?

Speaker 24 (33:00):
I would much rather have an ugly win than a
pretty loss. Yeah, you know, and we was on the
other side of that coin last year. So you know anyway,
who they love. The guys love you, Michael Man. You know,
it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
We talked about how in the offseason the Bengals basically
said we just got unlucky last year. Well they got
pretty lucky on Sunday, is the world evening out? Water
finding its level? Bengals have won six straight regular season games. Wow, questions, comments, concerns.
Is that the longest streak in football? I think it's tied. Yeah, okay,

(33:40):
who's the tide with? I can't remember. Probably the Eagles.
You're looking it up because we need to take a break.
Oh that's all of our talk about. Yeah, we're done. Okay, Sorry,
I didn't tell you that. That's fine. That's on me, brother, yep.
I am just get ready for this disastrous weekend you

(34:02):
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Speaker 14 (34:15):
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
Welcome back since e three sixty football in the NATI
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We spent a lot
of time this offseason Austin and rightfully so, uh talking
about the offensive line of the Cincinnati Bengals. Early in
the game, Lucas Patrick goes down with the calf injury,

(34:52):
Dalton Reisner comes in.

Speaker 22 (34:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I didn't talk about it a ton yesterday, but I
think a moment here to give credit to Dalton Reisner
for doing something that is not easy to do, to
come in, learn a playbook and then not only come
in and hold your own, but played a pretty good
level in protecting Joe Burrow. Yeah. Ted Carris called it
the most outstanding display of professionalism he's ever seen from
a football player, which is pretty high praise from a

(35:15):
guy who played with Tom Brady and you know, played
under Bill Belichick for a while. So yeah, that was
pretty cool to see that. Yeah. I saw him at
an elementary school yesterday. Yeah, doing some stuff with lovel
I think he was a love one. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah,
the the old line as a whole, and again I'm
not I don't have the PFF grades in front of me,

(35:37):
but as a whole, how would you grade the offensive line?
We know the run the run game wasn't good enough. Yeah,
past protecting, what grade would you give him? See? Uh,
probably less than that. I mean, if you're a Bengal
fan and that game ends in a different way, or

(35:58):
or Joe Burrow was is slower to get up on
the Miles Garrett hit, or he delivered, as you mentioned yesterday,
an absolute dime but paid for it. You don't want
to see many of those throughout the season. That is
a little bit worrisome. Burrow was touched way too much. Yeah,
and I understand that part of that is Miles Garrett
exists and he causes problems, but also he was touched

(36:21):
way too much. I felt like I felt like Dylan
Fairchild struggled, which as I expected him too. He's a
rookie in that environment against those players. The biggest, like
the bigger issue. I mean, obviously Burrow getting hit his
issue A and topic A and always will be. But
after the opening drive, there was nothing on the run

(36:42):
game and watching the film, I mean, they were just
Cleveland gave it to him, just destroyed them. How about
this stat though Dalton Reisner gave up one pressure on
the day, it was a hurry on that three sack series.
He played at twenty four pass blocking snaps last year Austin,
so at the seventeen game season, only once did a

(37:04):
Bengal guard earn an eighty or plus PFF pass blocking grade.
Dalton Reisner did that in his first outing with an
eighty point five. It's interesting because I saw it as
a different grade. Oh, I saw a sixty four point eight,
So that wouldn't be good pass block in a thirty
six point four run blocker, that wouldn't be good. But

(37:27):
you're right, I mean historically, yeah, he has been excellent
in pass coverage. Can I come back to one thing
that Mike brought up? Sure? I asked Chad Gpt, oh, boy,
who would win in a fight between a jaguar and
a tiger? And it says in a one on one fight,
a tiger would almost win every time. Yeah. Size and

(37:50):
strength smarter tigers three hundred to six hundred pounds jaguars
one hundred to two fifty. Jaguars have the strongest bite
force relative to body size, but tigers are overall strong
and they have the reach advantage, and tigers are used
to taking down very large prey and are more experienced
in prolonged fights. Sang jaguar could be dangerous, but in
a head to head a counter the tiger size and

(38:12):
strength give it too much of an advantage. Yeah. I
then asked Chad Gpt to make me a photo of
a Bengal winning a fight against a jaguar with Joe
Burrow looking on. Yeah, they said they can't do it.
It's still it's still loading. Oh okay, I'm waiting to
see it. Just double checked on the PFF website. They
do have Dalton Reisner as a thirty six point four
run block grade, a sixty four point eight pass block

(38:34):
grade in an overall grade of forty three point six,
which is good for seventy third among seventy eight qualified guards.
So do these do the grade? Do they grade initially
and then go back and regrade? Yes, they do, Okay,
So the one I'm looking at a September seventh, Yeah,
they do a PFF live grade. Okay, So that that
must have been what a Those stats are almost always

(38:56):
those grades are almost always much higher, okay than the review. Okay,
but that makes sense. We'll be back to finish up
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Speaker 2 (39:28):
Welcome back since he three to sixty On ESPN fifteen thirty,
Cincinnati Sports Station, Service of Cincy Shirts. What's so funny? Man?
My brother Devn and I. Devin played at wake Forest
and there's always been a lot better player than you.
They would always be back and forth, like you know,

(39:50):
the wake Forest teams he played on. They won a
couple of Bowl games, but weren't great. It was always like,
well we to beat you guys, blah blah blah. I
stumbled across because someone sent it to me. What if
sports dot Com And it takes every team's database from
years and you could plug in the away team, you
could plug in the home team. You could change field
conditions or anything like that if you want to, and
you sum it up and you can type in who wins,

(40:14):
and the Bearcats dominated both devns junior and senior year.
And then I had some fun Austin because if you
remember back to the early early two thousand and nine year,
the Bearcats were actually supposed to play Ohio State in
two thousand and nine. Ohio State ended up buying out
the game, which, you know, more power to them, But
I did just simulate that game. Yeah, according to what

(40:35):
if sports dot com, right, the Buckeyes come into Nippert
Stadium and they fall thirty eight to fourteen. Ooh at
the hands of the Cincinnati bearcatch. This was what year,
two thousand and nine. Yeah, probably that's probably twenty two
of thirty six for three, sixteen and five touchdowns. That's
what you did. That's what it says. That's probably accurate.
So rel prior one able to get much going just

(40:56):
thirteen to twenty seven for a buck eighty two. But
it did say boom Heron ran for one hundred and
seven yards and two scores. That boom Heron could play
a little bit. Now, Yeah, Bengalsker led the team with
seventy three yards. Jake Ballard had thirty eight yards as well. Okay,
but you feel better now I'm gonna have some fun
with this. Good for you. I'm gonna have some fun.

(41:17):
How many bowl games did you win in your career?
International Bowl, Papa John's Dot Com Bowl, Birmingham Bowl. I
was a part of three wins, so you were three
and two. Yep, gotcha. What a day it is? What
the day it is? Jaguars? I can't believe you've never
heard of this. I remember Jaguars and Bengals fighting. Now

(41:38):
I'm simmon, matchups? What is let's what if say about
this week's matchup? Can you put that in? Or is
it only past teams? I think it's past teams? Okay,
what do you mean this week's matchup like the Bengals
and the Jags. No, yeah, it doesn't have that. Okay,
it's got to be previous years. So you could do
the twenty twenty four seasons, but you can't do anything else.
All right, fair enough? I guess this is This is

(42:02):
bad news for everybody that knows Tony Pike. Yeah, it's
even about somebody who loves to live in the past.
You really we're talking. We were talking about chat GPT.
One of our coworkers asked who would win between Chad
Brendle and Lance McAllister. Oh, Lance a mile And so
I asked that to chat GPT and it's you know,
it kind of went right down the middle and said,
you want me to make a funny fight poster style

(42:24):
in the Chad versus Lance, and it looks nothing like
either of them. Did you get the image of Joe
Burrow that you were asking for? Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah,
why don't you send it to me? Pretty good? I'd
like to see that. All right, we gonna try to
steer this ship back somewhere into normal waters with Dan
Horde to kick off our number three next on ESBN
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