September 11, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back our two thanks to Cinci Shirts. Thank you
for listening on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's get right into it. Hour
number two, Thursday afternoons, all football season long from aightes
E Sports covering the Cincinnati Bengals. Our good friend John
Shearan joins us. Now, John, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What's up Tony? What's up? Boston? Feeling good?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Bearcats Bengals two and ow in the week. So you
always get a positive version of me when that happens.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Always a positive and it's always better, can hear the peppitist.
It's always better to be able to talk about maybe
some of the deficiencies when you're still want to know
at the end of the day, and that's something this
team has not been able to do enough of. With
that being said, let's start on the defensive side of
the ball. Let's start with that front seven, or or
that that Al Golden is able to use right now,
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because I look at Demetrius Knight had ten tackles. I
look at Logan Wilson had seven tackles. John. That to
me tells me that the front four was doing its
job and allowing those linebackers to go play against the
run as well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And this is why we always need to look back
at the film, because you know, on that first couple
drives for Cleveland, T J.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Slayton had some splies players.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
There was a time or two and you know, a
double team kind of got the best of it. I'm like, Okay,
maybe he needs to get his feet sail in a
little bit. But he did his job right and he
showed how much of a difference he can make to
clear up the space behind him and allow Demetrius Knight
and Logan Wilson to attack more freely. You saw Wilson
splits a ton up the middle of the day gas.
He just looked like the kind of the younger version
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of himself. And thankfully he's totally fine with this concussion
and that's not a serious thing. But yeah, it was
nice to see a full, healthy, stable rotation of.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Guys along the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Even Mike Panell got in with twenty two snaps right,
Chris Jenkins and BJ Hill had a pretty healthy split
of the snaps a defensive tack when he saw a
better version of Vja Hill where it looked like kind
of the early days when there was a nice rotation
of defensive tackles in the twenty twenty one team. So
it was a good sign I think for just the
guy whos being energetic coming in and out. You still
would like to see a little bit more consistency in
terms of pass rush, but hopefully that kind of can
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kind of come along as.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
The season goes on.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But it was a nice good opening vision to what
you know the defensive front of its rotation is going
to look like. And I think they've been blessed with
some pretty solid coach know the offseason.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Shamar Stewart didn't flash from a box score point of view,
but he was all over the field seemingly his first
action as a rookie in the National Football League. What
was your big takeaways from watching Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He was exactly who.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I think was advertised at a training camp, where he
just looks different, he moves differently, and it's not always
going to be clean right. I think the very first
impact lay he made, he kind of had like a
decent jump off the snap, but he didn't exactly know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Where to attack the left tackle.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Right, He was missing his landmarks a little bit and
he was trying to find and read the quarterback and
then he just got his hand up and he'd back
at the ballway. It unortunately didn't count because of a
penalty in the back end. But like that's the type of,
you know, impact plays that he can make, even if
it doesn't always look clean.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
There was another play where he crossed the face of
two Browns linemen and one of them with the tight
Endavid and Joku, but he completely messed up the point
of attack. The running back had the cutback, he tripped
over his own feet. It was like a game of zero, right.
But that that disruption that forced chaos multiplier, if you will.
Danials haven't really had that along the defensive line. So
it's definitely not going to look always clean with Stuart.
But again, he's just a ball of force and energy.
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He tossed to side like Dewan Jones, who's sixty eight,
four hundred pounds, right, Like that's not easy to do,
but He's got just an ordn amount of strength with
his size, and that's just a valuable commodity to have,
even if again it's not always going to lead the
clean wins and sacks like you mentioned. So he was
who I hoped he would be, and I hope that
he continues to build off that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
What do you think Al Golden learned about his defense
last week against Cleveland that he can apply to Jacksonville
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's an interesting question, Like they played a lot of
cover one and cover six, so like there's a match
of you know, your single high looks of Genos Stone
cover six, where he have, you know, one side of
the tails cover four, they others.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Had to cover two. They moved around the cornerbacks a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think there's some questions about if cam Tayler Bridge
is kind of adapting to this new scheme because he
was playing on both sides of the formation and he
looked a little bit slow and indecisive, but I think
he recognized that Yeah, if he tied those blitz as well,
he's gonna blitz a lot more than the lunar remo.
It can lead to disruption if you're front fourth and
always winning up, you know, up front, because that was
kind of a problem in the beginning of the first
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half and everything like that. But you know, I think
he has his guys playing free and they're playing fast,
and that was definitely evident. So I'm interested to see
the adjustments he makes on the back end with his coverages,
if he wants to maybe tone down on the main
coverage a little bit in case, you know, Camp taylor Bridge.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Is not fully himself just yet.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But I thought it was a good peek into what
he wanted to do schematically, and there was definitely differences
compared to lunararuma. But it could just be a match
of the matchup type situation. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
This week a lot more of a mobile, mobile guy.
He wants to crate plays out of the pocket, and that.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
May require them to maybe dial down the blitz a
little bit and practice a little bit more contained.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I wonder John on the offensive side of the ball.
I don't think anyone is panicking. I think everyone assumes
this offense is going to at some point sooner rather
than later figure it out. No one's hitting the panic
button there. But were there any things that you saw
on offense that may lead to more issues for this
team going forward.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know, because like the main issue I.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Think was that Burrow as the game kind of went on,
his internal clock was a little bit sped up, and
I thought you had a really good breakdown about getting
the plays in a little bit late, and that's why
he couldn't necessarily see the field clearly on some of
those plays. But ninety eight percent of the time, if
you have a defense that is wanting to play man
coverage against teagainst Jamar Chase, that is exactly what the
Bengals are salivating over, and they're counting on their guys
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to just take advantage of that. And the Browns are
just one of the very few defenses in the NFL
that has not only the defensive coordinator to combat that,
but they have the athletes, a cornerback and obviously the
best pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
In the world to speed up Burrow. So when you
don't have separation on.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Those route skiets man coverage and you have Burrow needed
to get the ball quickly, that can lead to Obviously
a disastrous performance.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That we saw.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It shouldn't be that bad, but I'm not surprised that
as the game went on, they kind of slowed down
a little bit just because you know, the guys for
the Browns came to play, and that's just something that
you have to respect. So I think because that was
the main issue, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Too concerned about.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
My biggest concern is still I think the consistency of
the run game and the lack of creativity really.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
On a lot of the short yarded situations.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I still have a lot of confidence to Chase Brown,
but I think you still need to see not only
this offensive line get generate more movement up from but
you also need to see a little bit more creativity
in terms of the play calling and making sure that
you're giving your guys opportunities to convert those shortyard situations.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm curious. We talked about this to start the show today, John.
The Chase Brown dynamic, and if you go by next
gen stats was it was unbelievable. He was able to
get plus forty three yards on the ground. Based on
what that looked like behind the line of scrimmage, I
thought he worked magic. But I'm in this a little
bit of a dilemma because here you pay Jamar Chase
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and you pay t Higgins, and you've paid Joe Burrow
and you got all these weapons, and then you advance
the offensive line in a way that you try to
prioritize protecting Joe Burrow more. While at the same time,
if you look across the old line, there's not a
great history of dominant run blockers that the Bengals have assembled.
Yet it feels like they want to be a running team.
They want to be able to create that physical dynamic.
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Does that mesh does the personnel mesh with wanting to
be inside the tackle running team with Chase Brown?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't necessarily think so that. I think that's.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Why it's more reliant on, you know, the personnel groupings
that they have out there, and then giving the defense
a little bit of a taste of like they like
to go into pistol, right, because they don't they recognize
that Burrow is not the greatest one he's under center
when he.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Has to drop back there.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And they ran to that issue in twenty twenty two
where they were always running under center all the time, right,
they had to adjust and become a shotgun running offense,
which fit their offensive line little bit better. Now now
it's kind of your marrying putting him in the pistol
to still create those type of run Constimpson schemes where
you have Burrow knowledge the center, but he's not in
the shotgun right, So I think personnel wise, you're still
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kind of building out an offensive line that's really prioritizing
in pass protection, but you still need to see a
jump from a Marius Minims and generating movement. Dald Reisner
now as your starter, and that's never really been his forte.
Ted Carris at his age is definitely more of a
pass protector than a run blocker, So that entire side
of the offensive line it's not always going to be
a road grading unit necessarily, but like he said, like
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they still want to have.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That be part of their offense.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
So it's just about creating success in the pass game
to lighten some of those boxes, give them more opportunities
to get some easy yards to chase Brown and then
hopefully at that point the game is firmly in the
Bengals hands in part of the game, and then you
can run the ball a little bit easier out of
some of those looks. But it's definitely not a unit
where you can just line up and run the ball,
you know, pretty straight times and expect success because they
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just don't have the guys a front to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That was my follow up because I looked at times
and it felt like Joe Burrow just didn't have much
rhythm in the game, and I think getting the plays
in quicker would help that. I also think finding him
those completions early in the game can help that. Do
you think it can work in that sense to not
just run to set up the pass? Can this team
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find more success passing to set up the run in
your opinion?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what their mission should be
because at the end of the day, that's just their identity.
And I think still early in the season, right like,
it doesn't really matter at this point how much.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Burrow plays in the preseason.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
You're obviously not going to have him play in all
three of these games, and you don't want him playing a.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Lot in those other two.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
It's just he's still just the quarterback that needs the
rhythm and needs to get into the flow of these
games in order for him to look like the best
version of himself. I was watching Bill's Ravens the other
day and how Lamar Jackson Josh Allenson, they can just roll.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Out of bed because they're physically so gifted.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
They could do whatever they want in the football field,
and defenses have to respect that.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
They're terrified of that, especially because defenses aren't in their
full form of week one.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's just not the same with the Bengals when he
has Burrow who relies so much on his timing, his anticipation,
and to see the whole offense just being in a
cohesive machine. It's just not going to be there in
Week one, And unfortunately they just ran into a defense
that was really good and keenan on what.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
They like to do best. So I still think that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Like you saw early in this game where they had
a lot more twelve personnel, no Ah Fan was more
involved than you you were expecting.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I think you're kind of hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They're trying to get him more in rhythm and try
to see where the rest of the game goes. But
unfortunately it just wasn't sustainable for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Were you surprised at all? With as much we talked
about it in the offseason, We talked about T Higgins
and T openly talked about moving around more and slot
and being in motion. Jamars talked about that it didn't
feel like to me that we saw a bunch of
pre snap movement, that we saw a bunch of different formations.
Is that something you just don't really get into week one?
Maybe you try to hold on to what are your
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thoughts on how they utilized formations and motions to help
these wideouts.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That was honestly one of my biggest disappointments because I
remember in Week one last year, and obviously that was
a different scenario when Chase was still coming back after
holding in. But you saw a jump in pre snap
move in Week two against the Chiefs, and the offense
obviously looked a lot better. And that's just that she
could around the league like play action preseat movements.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Its just it puts the defense in a.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Bind right before the snap and allows you a lot
more flexibility. And it's still something that the Bengals just
for whatever reason, they just don't start the season like that,
but then they kind of go into it as the
season goes on, and like eventually it will become a
more frequent part of the offense. But whatever this plan
was against the Browns, I think they just really prioritize
is not letting Miles Garrett blow up the game, and
he really almost did because he just can't contain that
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guy for four quarters.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How go ahead? Awesome.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I was gonna say, just looking ahead to Jacksonville from
what you saw from them in week number one, how
do they match up with the Bengals? Who should fans
be keeping an eye out on the Jacksonville side That
could cause issues for the Bengals on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, this run defense for the Bengals I think is
going to be put to the test again.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Like I think they're feeling really.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Good about you know how they kind of slow down
the Browns run game. But Traves YTN were obviously ran
wild against the Carolina Panthers, and I think the interior
offensive line for the jackson is probably the strength of
that unit. Ezra Cleveland's still a real good athlete left guard.
You know, the Bengals are pretty familiar with the right guard,
Patrick McCarry. Robert Hainsey's a pretty solid center as well.
But Etn, if you just give him a crease, he's
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gonna just burst through the hole. Like like you know,
Bengals fans want Chase Brown to do and he's dangerous
in that regard, So it's up to you know, the
Bengals linebackers once again being light on their feet, taking
good angles, and the emphasis on tackling again, like because
I think if they can have a situation where they
don't have to have Trevor Lawrence drop back forty fifty
times in this game, that's a pretty good recipe for
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success for Jacksonville. But also Brian Thomas Junior, I think
he's gonna see a lot of Kam Tayler Britt in
this game, and then it's up to Cam Tayler Britt
again to have a nice bounce back performance because I
don't really know. It's still an unknown, Like what Travis
Hunter is right now. He was mainly in the slot
of his receiver, but now the reports are saying that
he's gonna play more on the defense, maybe because the
Bengals have two of the best receivers in the game.
So he's a He's a complete wild card to me,
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and I think the Bengals don't really know what to
expect in that respect either, So there's gonna be more
talent in some of these other areas that they just
didn't see against Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
We talk a lot about some of the weapons in
ETN and Brian Thomas and even Travis Hunter and Trevor Lawrence,
Breton Strange. I know Trevor Lawrence likes their tight end
a lot. We don't hear a ton personnel wise or
anything about the Jaguars defense. What do you know about
them at the early point here, still obviously some days
away before the game. But what does this defense pose
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as a challenge to the Bengals offense?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
They got good linebackers who are also very athletic, and
they can create some disruption over the middle. I think
josh heinz Allen is definitely the best pass rusher. He's
not quite Miles Garrett, but no one really is. But
he's going to see orlanda Brown junior at left tackle.
Eric Armstead is still the mammoth of a man a
defensive tackle, and that's something to watch. And treymont Walker was,
honestly Shamar Stewarts like closest comparison coming out to college.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
He was a first round pick a handful of years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Another really explosive, straightforward athlete that's really starting to find
himself as a pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So this JAG's defensive line.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is not quite Cleveland, but they're really not that far off.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So that's still something I think the Bengals have to
keep in mind.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
But it's going to have to be a little bit
more spry in the pocket. I think he talked about
just wanting to make more plays and extend, didn't get
out of the pocket and kind of get into his
comfort zone a little bit more, which he didn't really
do that much against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So their front four is still something to be a
note of. And again, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
To see if you know, Hunter plays more at cornerback
and if he ends up going up against t against
Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
If if you're looking ahead to Sunday and Zach Taylor
still trying to crack the code of Week two. He's
yet to win a Week two games since he's been
the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, what would you
tab early on as your biggest keys to Sunday's game.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, I think again like Jamar Chase needs to just
have a Jamar Chase game, I think, and I think
he's going to be pretty motivated to do that after
kind of laying layn and egg against the Browns. Jake
Brownie was obviously the quarterback the last time these two
teams played, and he absolutely cooked Tyson Campbell, who.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think is still the number one quarnerback.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Depending on what hundreds usages is going to be, I
think a lot of it's going to be on that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I think the Bengals offense is going.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
To kind of revert back to Holly one to be
in terms of personnel usage as compared to what they
rolled out against the Browns, but it was a lot
more heavy with the twelve personnel, So you're gonna see
more Mike a Seki. I think you're gonna see andre
Yosawats actually make a catch this time around with after
you didn't catch any balls against the Browns. So you're
gonna see more of them personnel, and I think you're
gonna try to isolate you mar Chase, maybe get him
in the slot a little bit more and really tests,
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you know, the medal of this jack secondary because again
I think they got dogs up front, but you know,
their quarterbacks are obviously gonna be testing. Every defensive secondary
is gonna be tested against the Bengals offense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
John Shearon aight is E Sports covering the Bengals. You
mentioned at the top of this segment, John that it
was a good weekend because the Bearcats and the Bengals won.
I have a hard time still figuring out who the
Bearcats are, and I know in today's college football takes
a little bit longer. But as a fan of the Bearcats,
who do you think they are at this point two
games into the season.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, they're not totally pissing me off just yet. They
did a really good.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Job in Week one against Nebraska, but yeah, like they're
just I I still feel like they're in I think
that they should have played a lot better against Bowling Green.
I still don't really know what the identity of this
defense necessarily is. It sucks about Corleone and his injury
and everything, and I just I really hate how those
careers kind of turned out for you see there. But yeah,
like I think they're still lacking in identity, and obviously
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that kind of grows as the season goes on. But
they haven't truly pissed me off at so there's.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
At least that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
How how much do you look at a game like
this weekend? Northwestern State was down fifty nine to nothing
to Minnesota at halftime. What do you even watch for
as a fan in a game that is going to
be lopsided, a team that's not going to put up
much resistance? What do you even look for in a
game like Saturday?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I didn't even know that school existed. I'll be perfectly
onto the so I think the first thing I should
do is look ay where they are on a map.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I should probably find out who the head coach is, and.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Then we can kind of go from there.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I love any sort of just competent win at this point,
I'll take it. It wasn't quite there for me against
Bowling Green.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
A win is a win, but I just I still
need more.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I still need to be reassured of what this team is.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I love it. I love it. John Uh. What's the
easiest way for listeners to follow along with all your
coverage of the Bengals all throughout this season?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You guys know it is esports dot com, Backslash Cincinnati
on YouTube, it is The Sports Cincinnati and also follow
me on the podcast for the Orange Black Insider Bengals
podcasts wherever you get your podcasts on the Belief podcast
Network awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
John, Thank you so much. We talk again next week.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Thanks fellows.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, sir, there he is John Sharon, a E Sports.
A is E Sports, right. I like John.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
John's great, very knowledgeable, and he watches the tape.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He watches the tape.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I like guys who watch tape and know what they're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Watches the tape, discusses the tape, watches the Bearcats, discusses
the Bearcats. I'm all about it. Yeah, I'm all over it.
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I'm sure your intention is not the district expect such
a venerable institution of Ohio. But I'm pretty sure that
you wouldn't take kindly to somebody confusing your men of
Columbus with a Kentucky truck stop.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Thank you for your consideration.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Is there a chuck shop in Kentucky named Bobby's?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I guess that's what he's saying. Seems like a nice
place to go if there is.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Interesting TP fifteen.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
Oh hey, listen, fellas.
Speaker 13 (21:29):
I know it's been a while since I'm provided and
talk back, so I figured i'd pop in looke up
this morning check the Red score. Suddenly, they won two
out of three in San Diego, where Stevens typically go
to die the left coast, and I'm like, wait a minute,
we're two days back, so this is.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Your daily dose of hopium. As long as the Reds
are in it, I'll provide it. Go Reds sweep this weekend.
Make it interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I shout out to the malwalking grandpa who woke up,
probably put on his walking shoes, maybe headed to ken
Would town. So maybe he's up in Liberty. I don't
know why he's connected to his gene short, but he's
checking it on the walk. WHOA two back?
Speaker 14 (22:08):
Okay for you, Tony, soak it in.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Let yourself go.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
All right.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I told you guys, the Reds are on the way.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Oh go Rids two day.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
The problem is the Reds don't hurt you people that
are all the way back in.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
As soon as I hear that and I go to
that place, the calm quickly turns to fomo. I'm like, man,
I missed the beach, Thank you, Ken.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Today is a very unique day in the Bengals and
Red schedules. Is the only day in the twenty twenty
five calendar where both teams have sixteen games remaining in
the regular season. Finish out the seasons strong, Go Beds,
go Bangs.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right? From this from this point on, in a
six team game slate, who has a better.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Record the Bengals, all right? The Bengals and Reds also
have sixteen games remaining on their schedules tomorrow.
Speaker 15 (23:13):
Yeah, this this Red season, it's had more ups and
downs in my second marriage, more ups and downs in
a roller coaster. The Chapman stats unreal.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Ty.
Speaker 15 (23:24):
Twenty third is my birthday. That's the first hit he's
given up since then.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Unreal birthday.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
Chase Brown only had nine receiving yards. They gotta up
that number, get get him involved as much as possible.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, I agree. I think the ball early and often
on Sunday will be going to Jamar, Chase and Chase
Brown in the air.
Speaker 16 (23:51):
Start bench cut. What's more likely outcome for Sunday's game.
Bengals win thirty eight to thirty four. Bengals win twenty
one to seventeen. Bengals lose thirty to twenty eight, which.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Is more likely twenty one seventeen still at this point
of the season.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Okay, interesting, I'm going to start the Bengals lose because
I've said that all summer. I'm gonna bench twenty one seventeen.
I'm gonna cut thirty eight thirty four. That's all right
with you?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Sure?
Speaker 17 (24:27):
So this question is probably for Tony only because Austin,
I bet my bottom dollar you've never seen.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Back to the Future.
Speaker 17 (24:33):
I've seen back Safe on your part, I'll go watch
that one all the time, classics seen it, Tony. Do
you remember that picture that Marty kept in his back
pocket with the people and he'd look at it and
they're fading away. Yeah, and then time was running out,
and then all of a sudden the people were coming.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Back, were getting back to the movie. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's the bread this year? Yep.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Don't give up yet, man, don't give up Tom.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Don't ever give up Reds Back to the Future.
Speaker 18 (25:01):
So I'm just now getting the tune in, just wondering
if you guys will getting in the Reds any credit today.
Speaker 19 (25:07):
I know you've been.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Basking on this past week. It's played well.
Speaker 20 (25:13):
It just beat a team that has tripler heyware two
weeks or two series in row.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
Yeah, give them some credit.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Guess I did that. We do give them, We did that.
We do give them credit.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
We've given them credit. Also, they're not in the playoffs
right now, right this season is a failure. If they
do not advance in the postseason, it is a complete
and utter failure. If they do not reach the postseason.
Speaker 12 (25:46):
Last time, through the starting rotation, the Reds have pitched
thirty two innings, five runs, twenty nine strikeouts. That's good
for a one point four e er, six and a
half innings per start, one earned one per start, and
six strikeouts for a start. Let's see how the A's
handle Singer Green and Lodolo.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, I mean I like the I like the idea
of getting Green and Lodolo in this series. But as
we'll talk about a little bit more in the third hour,
this Oakley or this athletics team mashes, they mash pitching.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
Hey, Audie A, Tony Steve PNW Hey four one nine
two anniversary on nine to one.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
One's right.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
I was in San Diego. I just got to mirror
more at fourteen squadron time of my life. I'm playing tennis,
like in a tournament, and I'm like, they get over
to the get over the car and listen. I made
it to the rig. Eric Shall gave up the hit.
Jerry Coleman, famous Padre announcer. Oh doctor heard the call.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
People forget for obvious reasons that it was on this
date in nineteen eighty five that Pete Rose broke the record.
And uh yeah, guys.
Speaker 21 (27:04):
I don't know how the health they keep hanging around,
but the Cincinnati Reds only two games back nearly mid September.
I don't understand it, but I'm here for it. Giants
still have to play the Dodgers this weekend. Met's got
one more with Philly, and then they play the Rangers.
So these are tough competitive teams. And then the Reds
(27:24):
of course play the Ace, who are well under five hundred.
So who knows what happens by the time Monday rolls
around and we hear from you guys again, Let's.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Go Reds, Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'm in favor of the Reds going okay, let's go Reds.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Just the clarification, the Kentucky truck stop would be BUCkies.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I think.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So he wants to make sure you use Bobcats.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, but like people Ohio State fans and not the
Bobby's hold on second, Ohio State fans and people around
Ohio State don't call the Buckeyes the BUCkies. Owe you
fans and people in and around ass and went to
you and he says, Bobby, Yeah, he says, Bobby's like,
it's it's something that came from them, it's not. You
(28:18):
just can't win.
Speaker 22 (28:21):
Austin, Tony Ryan, Oh, good win for the Reds last night.
And definitely definitely don't underestimate the A's man tough, tough
offensive team.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Go get some victories. Man, see what we can do
at the end of the year. Maybe we could sneak
in who they Yep, And if they do Austin and
I can't be there, I'll be going, Nope, no, you won't.
Speaker 23 (28:46):
People giving you a hard time, my guy, because they
go with two games out and I know, I know
they're probably not gonna make it. Man, we get it,
we understand that. But can we at least act like
they have a chance until they're out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You're welcome to.
Speaker 23 (29:02):
Just give us some mism like wen, but guess what,
right now, they.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Got a shot. This is the brilliant thing about this though.
And I said that to the beginning of the show.
Our opinions don't have to be your opinions. Yeah, Like,
that's just because Austen doesn't think they have a chance
doesn't mean that they don't have a chance. I thought
we would want them to go to the playoffs. I
don't understand what's so hard about this. I've pretty much
(29:29):
been the same person ever since I've gotten a chance
to be on the air. I'm going to tell you
how I feel and what I think, and I'm going
to be honest with you. You don't have to agree with that.
How I choose to be a fan is not how
you choose to be a fan. Everybody has their own
way of being a fan, and I'm not here to
try to like make people upset or you know, you
(29:49):
know what in their corn flakes over it. I am
skeptical and optimistic about it, and I think part of
it you and I had a long form conversation about
this one day, is that we're kind of like, I
think I do this. I protect myself because I don't
want to get my hopes up and get heartbroken. So
(30:11):
I think of all the different ways that things can
go wrong. And at the end of the day, they
have played one hundred and forty six games. Correct, That
is a large sample size to come up with your
own thoughts of who the team is. What is their
longest winning streak of the season, six maybe five to
six games. They've not shown an ability to consistently win enough?
(30:35):
Can that change? Can they pull it together down the stretch?
I sure as hell hope so, because the city is
even more on fire if the Reds are in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I am comfortable with my assessment of the local ball club.
I hope that it is not true. And I even
posted on my Twitter last night, I said, let's hope
that the run we've all been waiting for is coming,
but you know, one and four.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Six games? Hope.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I believe the man was referring to BUCkies.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yes, that's correct, form Guy's.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Which is not a truck stop. By the way, they
do not even allow trucks there.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah, figure, take that. This dude's like, oh for three
against me?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Take that?
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Yes, brisket sandwich. That sounds pretty good right now. You
probably don't like brisket, do you?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Gosh, for the final sixteen games, the Bengals will go
nine and seven, the Reds will go ten and six.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Wow, Well, you say, Okay, let me, let's go on
the record here Thursday, September eleventh, Tony, if our guy
here just told you that the Bengals are going to
go ten and seven? Are you going to sign up
for that? Well, they only have sixteen games left, Well,
they've already won one. According to him, they're going to
go nine and seven the rest of the way noe,
(31:53):
which would equal out to ten and seventy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
So you're gonna take your chances going elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Hard to be a good one tonight. You got Jordan
what is love?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And Jayden Jack Daniels, Oh, head to head, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
And it's a white out for the Packers to their
winter warning uniforms at historic Lambos. Winter coming, that's what
they're trying to say. Okay, I don't think it's gonna
be snow on the ground, although nobody would be surprised.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
If it was. Winter ain't coming here this weekend?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Him into that, brother, I wish it was all right,
We're done football the Natty.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Isn't football in the Natty? Next? Do you want me?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I'm gonna give you the option. Do you want Joe
Burrow press conference or do you want read and react?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Now we're gonna go read and react on the third.
Let's do some Joe Burrow press when we come back
on Football in the Natty Next, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station.
Speaker 19 (32:47):
He's a big cat clash and the Bengals on La
Pro for a win. To get one, they'll have to
cholt the Jaguars and trust me, fur will fly get
the coal live from.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Dan and Dave.
Speaker 19 (33:01):
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Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah it is Welcome back. You sounded like you just
took that in the NATI. Ah ah, Hi goodness, Welcome back.
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. Real quick, we're going
to play some Joe Burrow audio here from yesterday. Did
anyone ask Joe about getting the plays in quicker? Yes,
(33:54):
it's the first question. Let's get to it by our guy, Jane.
Let's repeat, go James. Here is some of Joe Burrow
from yesterday. What do you look for the most? What
you did well?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You didn't do?
Speaker 23 (34:07):
I don't think we know how many snaps traveled.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
You know, I got to press the right butt?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Whoa, whoa?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
What I was starting at midway through? Here's James's question,
Is there anything you guys can pre snap?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
This week's a pre snap?
Speaker 20 (34:19):
Isn't You don't have those kind of communication issues or
frustrations going into Sunday?
Speaker 18 (34:32):
You know, I'm not sure we hadn't. We had many
communication issues on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
We had can We called two timeouts?
Speaker 18 (34:44):
One we lined up in the wrong formation, and I
can't remember what happened on the other one. But you know,
aside from that, I feel like our operation in communication
and it was pretty sound on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
For Miles, what do you can him up the middle
on you?
Speaker 22 (35:01):
You take a lot of hits and games.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Where's that one rank in terms of.
Speaker 16 (35:08):
That?
Speaker 18 (35:10):
I didn't necessarily when you're out there, you don't really
feel much. Let's say that was my best throw of
the day. Everybody likes to show that hit, but not
necessarily where I put the ball in that situation.
Speaker 23 (35:23):
I don't think we know how many snaps Travis Hunter
is gonna play on defense yet.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I mean, just one week for him so far.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
But did you watch him much in college?
Speaker 13 (35:30):
You know much about his game?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
And what have you noticed?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, I watched I watched a lot of.
Speaker 18 (35:36):
Colorado games last year.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Pick.
Speaker 18 (35:40):
I feel like the timing and somehow always lined up
for when we were off on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
But I got a lot of respect for Number one.
Speaker 18 (35:50):
What are he was able to do in college? How
many snaps he played? The elite level that he would
play at on both sides of the ball when he
was out there. You know last week he didn't. He
didn't play much on defense, So there's very limited tape
on that on that end for for me, So I
don't have a ton to to say on that front.
But I know what I watched in college, and on
(36:13):
the defensive side of the ball, he's His ball skills
are obviously great. That's why he's playing offense too, and
he just continuously made plays it seemed like in big spots.
Speaker 16 (36:27):
Uh.
Speaker 18 (36:27):
So I got a lot of respect for for what
he did and how he did it, and I'm excited
to watch him in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
In the league now that salary.
Speaker 18 (36:40):
Not really you don't see a ton You don't see
a ton of guys with his ball skill ability playing
on the defensive side of the ball. You know, Trayvon
Diggs had the one season with all those interceptions. But
you know, like I said, I haven't studied the tape
(37:03):
of him on defense from college and he played what
was the three snaps on defense last week, so I
haven't seen a ton of that.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
What do you look for the most?
Speaker 25 (37:12):
What you did well, you didn't do well, and following
that up, curious whether or not you ever looked and
how to play and think I could have forced it
there and I didn't.
Speaker 26 (37:24):
And yeah, I think when you watch it first, you
you try to find just try to figure out what
happened on the first time you watch it.
Speaker 18 (37:38):
You know there's a lot of stuff going on throughout
the game, and you remember the plays and what happened,
but you know the film tells a different story, and
so you try to figure out if what you remember
happening is actually what happened on the tape, and then
(37:59):
then you look at.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
How did what they did affect what we did?
Speaker 18 (38:04):
Did we do the right thing depending on how the
defense played, And yeah, there's of course always some plays
that you'd like to have back, and certainly depending on
the situation, there's sometimes one that you could could have
maybe been a little more aggressive with the ball as
opposed to what you did decide to do with it.
(38:26):
So there's always learning experiences from every drive, every play,
every game, is.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
There one of two things that you want to do
better the subject?
Speaker 18 (38:44):
You know, I think I'm gonna be a little more
aggressive to maybe get out of the pocket and make
some plays, you know, just like every game, you want
to get out and see how things are going. How's
the defense playing in, how's their front playing, what coverages
are we getting? You know, how how are we attacking
(39:08):
them so far? And how's it going? Do we need
to change? And we need to keep attacking them the
way the way that they are, So I'm gonna be
ready to attack adapt for for whatever we see.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
What excites you the most about coming back home and
playing in front of the home crowd here is just
another opportunity.
Speaker 9 (39:24):
You know, with our.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
This is what we do for a living, This is
what we love to do.
Speaker 18 (39:28):
Go out and try to put on a show for
the people in this city and in this organization, and
this is another opportunity to do it.
Speaker 19 (39:35):
We have.
Speaker 18 (39:37):
I think we have nine home games this year, so
we got nine opportunities to do it. This will be
the first one, and I'm excited for it.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
You and Trevor have a relationship all over the years or.
Speaker 18 (39:46):
Now just just just talking when we play each other.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Does that win over the Jags, your first pro win
feel like one hundred years ago?
Speaker 18 (39:55):
Yeah, one hundred years ago in yesterday. I certainly remember
a lot about that game, but uh, like you said
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
They were not rained, and any stand out.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I had, uh, we.
Speaker 18 (40:11):
Had a pressure from the backside and empty and somebody
was free and I pretend like I didn't see him,
but I did see him, and I made miss and
wheeled out and got about seven yarns. That's the one
that I remember.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
The first time.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
What impressed you about what Jacksonville did this past week?
Speaker 18 (40:30):
You can see their energy and physicality on defense. I
think their front is very disruptive. It feels like I
say that every week, but you know, they have a
lot they have a lot of guys that I respect
on on that front.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Uh.
Speaker 18 (40:41):
And they came up with some big time defensive plays.
A safety drove a low cross on a on a
naked and popped it up in the air, and guy
made a diving interception, and they punched the ball out
and ah, I think they were up maybe four to
ten or fourteen and and Carolina was driving. They punched
(41:01):
the ball out and got a fumber recovery. Those are
big time plays. So those are things that you always
have to be aware of. But they put it on tape,
So that's something that we've discussed.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
All right. That is Joe Burrow speaking yesterday coming out
of the Browns game, looking ahead to the Jacksonville Jaguars game.
I don't know why, Austin, but one of the things
that you like people talk about, like nails on a chalkboard, hm,
When I can hear people consistently typing away on a
(41:31):
keyboard while I'm hearing answers that like mentally drives me insane.
Do you hear that at all? When they were listening
to those I do. I don't know why, but because
I can type on a keyboard or listen to it.
But when he's giving answers, it like drives me nuts.
I think it was one of the unintended consequences.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, the speaker of the up but can't have it.
L There was one during his one of his very
first answer, he was like tearing the label off of
his water bottle. Oh my gosh, you couldn't hear anything, Yeah,
I said, Oh, anyway, So that's what Joe Burrow had
to say. We will wrap up our number two next
with some Reds updates on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 24 (42:12):
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Speaker 2 (42:38):
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(43:00):
list right handed pitcher Chase Burns, right handed pitcher pitcher
Graham Ashcraft. They have optioned to triple a Lion Richardson
and Yosfer Zulawaita.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Why you always Lion Richardson? How about that? So is
a huge bullpen? I do Ashcraft and Burns. Back to
the Cincinnati Reds and the way Zach Maxwell has been
pitching lately obviously Santian. As Charlie noted on his account,
it does give the Reds a lot more flexibility in
(43:32):
the bullpen, which is big. In a pennant race like this,
Let's go or a playoff chase, they should say we're here,
We're back.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Yeah.
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Speaker 6 (45:12):
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Speaker 2 (45:12):
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thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's get right into it. Hour
number two, Thursday afternoons, all football season long from aightes
E Sports covering the Cincinnati Bengals. Our good friend John
Shearan joins us. Now, John, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What's up Tony? What's up? Boston? Feeling good?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Bearcats Bengals two and ow in the week. So you
always get a positive version of me when that happens.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Always a positive and it's always better, can hear the peppitist.
It's always better to be able to talk about maybe
some of the deficiencies when you're still want to know
at the end of the day, and that's something this
team has not been able to do enough of. With
that being said, let's start on the defensive side of
the ball. Let's start with that front seven, or or
that that Al Golden is able to use right now,
(01:04):
because I look at Demetrius Knight had ten tackles. I
look at Logan Wilson had seven tackles. John. That to
me tells me that the front four was doing its
job and allowing those linebackers to go play against the
run as well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And this is why we always need to look back
at the film, because you know, on that first couple
drives for Cleveland, T J.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Slayton had some splies players.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
There was a time or two and you know, a
double team kind of got the best of it. I'm like, Okay,
maybe he needs to get his feet sail in a
little bit. But he did his job right and he
showed how much of a difference he can make to
clear up the space behind him and allow Demetrius Knight
and Logan Wilson to attack more freely. You saw Wilson
splits a ton up the middle of the day gas.
He just looked like the kind of the younger version
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of himself. And thankfully he's totally fine with this concussion
and that's not a serious thing. But yeah, it was
nice to see a full, healthy, stable rotation of.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Guys along the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Even Mike Panell got in with twenty two snaps right,
Chris Jenkins and BJ Hill had a pretty healthy split
of the snaps a defensive tack when he saw a
better version of Vja Hill where it looked like kind
of the early days when there was a nice rotation
of defensive tackles in the twenty twenty one team. So
it was a good sign I think for just the
guy whos being energetic coming in and out. You still
would like to see a little bit more consistency in
terms of pass rush, but hopefully that kind of can
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kind of come along as.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
The season goes on.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But it was a nice good opening vision to what
you know the defensive front of its rotation is going
to look like. And I think they've been blessed with
some pretty solid coach know the offseason.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Shamar Stewart didn't flash from a box score point of view,
but he was all over the field seemingly his first
action as a rookie in the National Football League. What
was your big takeaways from watching Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He was exactly who.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I think was advertised at a training camp, where he
just looks different, he moves differently, and it's not always
going to be clean right. I think the very first
impact lay he made, he kind of had like a
decent jump off the snap, but he didn't exactly know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Where to attack the left tackle.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Right, He was missing his landmarks a little bit and
he was trying to find and read the quarterback and
then he just got his hand up and he'd back
at the ballway. It unortunately didn't count because of a
penalty in the back end. But like that's the type of,
you know, impact plays that he can make, even if
it doesn't always look clean.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
There was another play where he crossed the face of
two Browns linemen and one of them with the tight
Endavid and Joku, but he completely messed up the point
of attack. The running back had the cutback, he tripped
over his own feet. It was like a game of zero, right.
But that that disruption that forced chaos multiplier, if you will.
Danials haven't really had that along the defensive line. So
it's definitely not going to look always clean with Stuart.
But again, he's just a ball of force and energy.
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He tossed to side like Dewan Jones, who's sixty eight,
four hundred pounds, right, Like that's not easy to do,
but He's got just an ordn amount of strength with
his size, and that's just a valuable commodity to have,
even if again it's not always going to lead the
clean wins and sacks like you mentioned. So he was
who I hoped he would be, and I hope that
he continues to build off that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
What do you think Al Golden learned about his defense
last week against Cleveland that he can apply to Jacksonville
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's an interesting question, Like they played a lot of
cover one and cover six, so like there's a match
of you know, your single high looks of Genos Stone
cover six, where he have, you know, one side of
the tails cover four, they others.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Had to cover two. They moved around the cornerbacks a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think there's some questions about if cam Tayler Bridge
is kind of adapting to this new scheme because he
was playing on both sides of the formation and he
looked a little bit slow and indecisive, but I think
he recognized that Yeah, if he tied those blitz as well,
he's gonna blitz a lot more than the lunar remo.
It can lead to disruption if you're front fourth and
always winning up, you know, up front, because that was
kind of a problem in the beginning of the first
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half and everything like that. But you know, I think
he has his guys playing free and they're playing fast,
and that was definitely evident. So I'm interested to see
the adjustments he makes on the back end with his coverages,
if he wants to maybe tone down on the main
coverage a little bit in case, you know, Camp taylor Bridge.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Is not fully himself just yet.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But I thought it was a good peek into what
he wanted to do schematically, and there was definitely differences
compared to lunararuma. But it could just be a match
of the matchup type situation. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
This week a lot more of a mobile, mobile guy.
He wants to crate plays out of the pocket, and that.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
May require them to maybe dial down the blitz a
little bit and practice a little bit more contained.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I wonder John on the offensive side of the ball.
I don't think anyone is panicking. I think everyone assumes
this offense is going to at some point sooner rather
than later figure it out. No one's hitting the panic
button there. But were there any things that you saw
on offense that may lead to more issues for this
team going forward.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know, because like the main issue I.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Think was that Burrow as the game kind of went on,
his internal clock was a little bit sped up, and
I thought you had a really good breakdown about getting
the plays in a little bit late, and that's why
he couldn't necessarily see the field clearly on some of
those plays. But ninety eight percent of the time, if
you have a defense that is wanting to play man
coverage against teagainst Jamar Chase, that is exactly what the
Bengals are salivating over, and they're counting on their guys
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to just take advantage of that. And the Browns are
just one of the very few defenses in the NFL
that has not only the defensive coordinator to combat that,
but they have the athletes, a cornerback and obviously the
best pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
In the world to speed up Burrow. So when you
don't have separation on.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Those route skiets man coverage and you have Burrow needed
to get the ball quickly, that can lead to Obviously
a disastrous performance.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That we saw.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It shouldn't be that bad, but I'm not surprised that
as the game went on, they kind of slowed down
a little bit just because you know, the guys for
the Browns came to play, and that's just something that
you have to respect. So I think because that was
the main issue, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Too concerned about.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
My biggest concern is still I think the consistency of
the run game and the lack of creativity really.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
On a lot of the short yarded situations.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I still have a lot of confidence to Chase Brown,
but I think you still need to see not only
this offensive line get generate more movement up from but
you also need to see a little bit more creativity
in terms of the play calling and making sure that
you're giving your guys opportunities to convert those shortyard situations.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm curious. We talked about this to start the show today, John.
The Chase Brown dynamic, and if you go by next
gen stats was it was unbelievable. He was able to
get plus forty three yards on the ground. Based on
what that looked like behind the line of scrimmage, I
thought he worked magic. But I'm in this a little
bit of a dilemma because here you pay Jamar Chase
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and you pay t Higgins, and you've paid Joe Burrow
and you got all these weapons, and then you advance
the offensive line in a way that you try to
prioritize protecting Joe Burrow more. While at the same time,
if you look across the old line, there's not a
great history of dominant run blockers that the Bengals have assembled.
Yet it feels like they want to be a running team.
They want to be able to create that physical dynamic.
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Does that mesh does the personnel mesh with wanting to
be inside the tackle running team with Chase Brown?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't necessarily think so that. I think that's.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Why it's more reliant on, you know, the personnel groupings
that they have out there, and then giving the defense
a little bit of a taste of like they like
to go into pistol, right, because they don't they recognize
that Burrow is not the greatest one he's under center
when he.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Has to drop back there.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And they ran to that issue in twenty twenty two
where they were always running under center all the time, right,
they had to adjust and become a shotgun running offense,
which fit their offensive line little bit better. Now now
it's kind of your marrying putting him in the pistol
to still create those type of run Constimpson schemes where
you have Burrow knowledge the center, but he's not in
the shotgun right, So I think personnel wise, you're still
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kind of building out an offensive line that's really prioritizing
in pass protection, but you still need to see a
jump from a Marius Minims and generating movement. Dald Reisner
now as your starter, and that's never really been his forte.
Ted Carris at his age is definitely more of a
pass protector than a run blocker, So that entire side
of the offensive line it's not always going to be
a road grading unit necessarily, but like he said, like
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they still want to have.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That be part of their offense.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
So it's just about creating success in the pass game
to lighten some of those boxes, give them more opportunities
to get some easy yards to chase Brown and then
hopefully at that point the game is firmly in the
Bengals hands in part of the game, and then you
can run the ball a little bit easier out of
some of those looks. But it's definitely not a unit
where you can just line up and run the ball,
you know, pretty straight times and expect success because they
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just don't have the guys a front to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That was my follow up because I looked at times
and it felt like Joe Burrow just didn't have much
rhythm in the game, and I think getting the plays
in quicker would help that. I also think finding him
those completions early in the game can help that. Do
you think it can work in that sense to not
just run to set up the pass? Can this team
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find more success passing to set up the run in
your opinion?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what their mission should be
because at the end of the day, that's just their identity.
And I think still early in the season, right like,
it doesn't really matter at this point how much.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Burrow plays in the preseason.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
You're obviously not going to have him play in all
three of these games, and you don't want him playing a.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Lot in those other two.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
It's just he's still just the quarterback that needs the
rhythm and needs to get into the flow of these
games in order for him to look like the best
version of himself. I was watching Bill's Ravens the other
day and how Lamar Jackson Josh Allenson, they can just roll.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Out of bed because they're physically so gifted.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
They could do whatever they want in the football field,
and defenses have to respect that.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
They're terrified of that, especially because defenses aren't in their
full form of week one.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's just not the same with the Bengals when he
has Burrow who relies so much on his timing, his anticipation,
and to see the whole offense just being in a
cohesive machine. It's just not going to be there in
Week one, And unfortunately they just ran into a defense
that was really good and keenan on what.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
They like to do best. So I still think that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Like you saw early in this game where they had
a lot more twelve personnel, no Ah Fan was more
involved than you you were expecting.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I think you're kind of hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They're trying to get him more in rhythm and try
to see where the rest of the game goes. But
unfortunately it just wasn't sustainable for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Were you surprised at all? With as much we talked
about it in the offseason, We talked about T Higgins
and T openly talked about moving around more and slot
and being in motion. Jamars talked about that it didn't
feel like to me that we saw a bunch of
pre snap movement, that we saw a bunch of different formations.
Is that something you just don't really get into week one?
Maybe you try to hold on to what are your
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thoughts on how they utilized formations and motions to help
these wideouts.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That was honestly one of my biggest disappointments because I
remember in Week one last year, and obviously that was
a different scenario when Chase was still coming back after
holding in. But you saw a jump in pre snap
move in Week two against the Chiefs, and the offense
obviously looked a lot better. And that's just that she
could around the league like play action preseat movements.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Its just it puts the defense in a.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Bind right before the snap and allows you a lot
more flexibility. And it's still something that the Bengals just
for whatever reason, they just don't start the season like that,
but then they kind of go into it as the
season goes on, and like eventually it will become a
more frequent part of the offense. But whatever this plan
was against the Browns, I think they just really prioritize
is not letting Miles Garrett blow up the game, and
he really almost did because he just can't contain that
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guy for four quarters.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How go ahead? Awesome.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I was gonna say, just looking ahead to Jacksonville from
what you saw from them in week number one, how
do they match up with the Bengals? Who should fans
be keeping an eye out on the Jacksonville side That
could cause issues for the Bengals on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, this run defense for the Bengals I think is
going to be put to the test again.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Like I think they're feeling really.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Good about you know how they kind of slow down
the Browns run game. But Traves YTN were obviously ran
wild against the Carolina Panthers, and I think the interior
offensive line for the jackson is probably the strength of
that unit. Ezra Cleveland's still a real good athlete left guard.
You know, the Bengals are pretty familiar with the right guard,
Patrick McCarry. Robert Hainsey's a pretty solid center as well.
But Etn, if you just give him a crease, he's
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gonna just burst through the hole. Like like you know,
Bengals fans want Chase Brown to do and he's dangerous
in that regard, So it's up to you know, the
Bengals linebackers once again being light on their feet, taking
good angles, and the emphasis on tackling again, like because
I think if they can have a situation where they
don't have to have Trevor Lawrence drop back forty fifty
times in this game, that's a pretty good recipe for
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success for Jacksonville. But also Brian Thomas Junior, I think
he's gonna see a lot of Kam Tayler Britt in
this game, and then it's up to Cam Tayler Britt
again to have a nice bounce back performance because I
don't really know. It's still an unknown, Like what Travis
Hunter is right now. He was mainly in the slot
of his receiver, but now the reports are saying that
he's gonna play more on the defense, maybe because the
Bengals have two of the best receivers in the game.
So he's a He's a complete wild card to me,
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and I think the Bengals don't really know what to
expect in that respect either, So there's gonna be more
talent in some of these other areas that they just
didn't see against Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
We talk a lot about some of the weapons in
ETN and Brian Thomas and even Travis Hunter and Trevor Lawrence,
Breton Strange. I know Trevor Lawrence likes their tight end
a lot. We don't hear a ton personnel wise or
anything about the Jaguars defense. What do you know about
them at the early point here, still obviously some days
away before the game. But what does this defense pose
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as a challenge to the Bengals offense?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
They got good linebackers who are also very athletic, and
they can create some disruption over the middle. I think
josh heinz Allen is definitely the best pass rusher. He's
not quite Miles Garrett, but no one really is. But
he's going to see orlanda Brown junior at left tackle.
Eric Armstead is still the mammoth of a man a
defensive tackle, and that's something to watch. And treymont Walker was,
honestly Shamar Stewarts like closest comparison coming out to college.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
He was a first round pick a handful of years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Another really explosive, straightforward athlete that's really starting to find
himself as a pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So this JAG's defensive line.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is not quite Cleveland, but they're really not that far off.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So that's still something I think the Bengals have to
keep in mind.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
But it's going to have to be a little bit
more spry in the pocket. I think he talked about
just wanting to make more plays and extend, didn't get
out of the pocket and kind of get into his
comfort zone a little bit more, which he didn't really
do that much against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So their front four is still something to be a
note of. And again, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
To see if you know, Hunter plays more at cornerback
and if he ends up going up against t against
Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
If if you're looking ahead to Sunday and Zach Taylor
still trying to crack the code of Week two. He's
yet to win a Week two games since he's been
the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, what would you
tab early on as your biggest keys to Sunday's game.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, I think again like Jamar Chase needs to just
have a Jamar Chase game, I think, and I think
he's going to be pretty motivated to do that after
kind of laying layn and egg against the Browns. Jake
Brownie was obviously the quarterback the last time these two
teams played, and he absolutely cooked Tyson Campbell, who.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think is still the number one quarnerback.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Depending on what hundreds usages is going to be, I
think a lot of it's going to be on that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I think the Bengals offense is going.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
To kind of revert back to Holly one to be
in terms of personnel usage as compared to what they
rolled out against the Browns, but it was a lot
more heavy with the twelve personnel, So you're gonna see
more Mike a Seki. I think you're gonna see andre
Yosawats actually make a catch this time around with after
you didn't catch any balls against the Browns. So you're
gonna see more of them personnel, and I think you're
gonna try to isolate you mar Chase, maybe get him
in the slot a little bit more and really tests,
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you know, the medal of this jack secondary because again
I think they got dogs up front, but you know,
their quarterbacks are obviously gonna be testing. Every defensive secondary
is gonna be tested against the Bengals offense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
John Shearon aight is E Sports covering the Bengals. You
mentioned at the top of this segment, John that it
was a good weekend because the Bearcats and the Bengals won.
I have a hard time still figuring out who the
Bearcats are, and I know in today's college football takes
a little bit longer. But as a fan of the Bearcats,
who do you think they are at this point two
games into the season.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, they're not totally pissing me off just yet. They
did a really good.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Job in Week one against Nebraska, but yeah, like they're
just I I still feel like they're in I think
that they should have played a lot better against Bowling Green.
I still don't really know what the identity of this
defense necessarily is. It sucks about Corleone and his injury
and everything, and I just I really hate how those
careers kind of turned out for you see there. But yeah,
like I think they're still lacking in identity, and obviously
(16:16):
that kind of grows as the season goes on. But
they haven't truly pissed me off at so there's.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
At least that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
How how much do you look at a game like
this weekend? Northwestern State was down fifty nine to nothing
to Minnesota at halftime. What do you even watch for
as a fan in a game that is going to
be lopsided, a team that's not going to put up
much resistance? What do you even look for in a
game like Saturday?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I didn't even know that school existed. I'll be perfectly
onto the so I think the first thing I should
do is look ay where they are on a map.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I should probably find out who the head coach is, and.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Then we can kind of go from there.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I love any sort of just competent win at this point,
I'll take it. It wasn't quite there for me against
Bowling Green.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
A win is a win, but I just I still
need more.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I still need to be reassured of what this team is.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I love it. I love it. John Uh. What's the
easiest way for listeners to follow along with all your
coverage of the Bengals all throughout this season?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You guys know it is esports dot com, Backslash Cincinnati
on YouTube, it is The Sports Cincinnati and also follow
me on the podcast for the Orange Black Insider Bengals
podcasts wherever you get your podcasts on the Belief podcast
Network awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
John, Thank you so much. We talk again next week.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Thanks fellows.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, sir, there he is John Sharon, a E Sports.
A is E Sports, right. I like John.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
John's great, very knowledgeable, and he watches the tape.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He watches the tape.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I like guys who watch tape and know what they're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Watches the tape, discusses the tape, watches the Bearcats, discusses
the Bearcats. I'm all about it. Yeah, I'm all over it.
Thank you to John Sharon. Thank you for listening. Your
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All right.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I told you guys, the Reds are on the way.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Oh go Rids two day.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
The problem is the Reds don't hurt you people that
are all the way back in.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
As soon as I hear that and I go to
that place, the calm quickly turns to fomo. I'm like, man,
I missed the beach, Thank you, Ken.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Today is a very unique day in the Bengals and
Red schedules. Is the only day in the twenty twenty
five calendar where both teams have sixteen games remaining in
the regular season. Finish out the seasons strong, Go Beds,
go Bangs.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right? From this from this point on, in a
six team game slate, who has a better.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Record the Bengals, all right? The Bengals and Reds also
have sixteen games remaining on their schedules tomorrow.
Speaker 15 (23:13):
Yeah, this this Red season, it's had more ups and
downs in my second marriage, more ups and downs in
a roller coaster. The Chapman stats unreal.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Ty.
Speaker 15 (23:24):
Twenty third is my birthday. That's the first hit he's
given up since then.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Unreal birthday.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
Chase Brown only had nine receiving yards. They gotta up
that number, get get him involved as much as possible.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, I agree. I think the ball early and often
on Sunday will be going to Jamar, Chase and Chase
Brown in the air.
Speaker 16 (23:51):
Start bench cut. What's more likely outcome for Sunday's game.
Bengals win thirty eight to thirty four. Bengals win twenty
one to seventeen. Bengals lose thirty to twenty eight, which.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Is more likely twenty one seventeen still at this point
of the season.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Okay, interesting, I'm going to start the Bengals lose because
I've said that all summer. I'm gonna bench twenty one seventeen.
I'm gonna cut thirty eight thirty four. That's all right
with you?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Sure?
Speaker 17 (24:27):
So this question is probably for Tony only because Austin,
I bet my bottom dollar you've never seen.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Back to the Future.
Speaker 17 (24:33):
I've seen back Safe on your part, I'll go watch
that one all the time, classics seen it, Tony. Do
you remember that picture that Marty kept in his back
pocket with the people and he'd look at it and
they're fading away. Yeah, and then time was running out,
and then all of a sudden the people were coming.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Back, were getting back to the movie. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's the bread this year? Yep.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Don't give up yet, man, don't give up Tom.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Don't ever give up Reds Back to the Future.
Speaker 18 (25:01):
So I'm just now getting the tune in, just wondering
if you guys will getting in the Reds any credit today.
Speaker 19 (25:07):
I know you've been.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Basking on this past week. It's played well.
Speaker 20 (25:13):
It just beat a team that has tripler heyware two
weeks or two series in row.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
Yeah, give them some credit.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Guess I did that. We do give them, We did that.
We do give them credit.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
We've given them credit. Also, they're not in the playoffs
right now, right this season is a failure. If they
do not advance in the postseason, it is a complete
and utter failure. If they do not reach the postseason.
Speaker 12 (25:46):
Last time, through the starting rotation, the Reds have pitched
thirty two innings, five runs, twenty nine strikeouts. That's good
for a one point four e er, six and a
half innings per start, one earned one per start, and
six strikeouts for a start. Let's see how the A's
handle Singer Green and Lodolo.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, I mean I like the I like the idea
of getting Green and Lodolo in this series. But as
we'll talk about a little bit more in the third hour,
this Oakley or this athletics team mashes, they mash pitching.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
Hey, Audie A, Tony Steve PNW Hey four one nine
two anniversary on nine to one.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
One's right.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
I was in San Diego. I just got to mirror
more at fourteen squadron time of my life. I'm playing tennis,
like in a tournament, and I'm like, they get over
to the get over the car and listen. I made
it to the rig. Eric Shall gave up the hit.
Jerry Coleman, famous Padre announcer. Oh doctor heard the call.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
People forget for obvious reasons that it was on this
date in nineteen eighty five that Pete Rose broke the record.
And uh yeah, guys.
Speaker 21 (27:04):
I don't know how the health they keep hanging around,
but the Cincinnati Reds only two games back nearly mid September.
I don't understand it, but I'm here for it. Giants
still have to play the Dodgers this weekend. Met's got
one more with Philly, and then they play the Rangers.
So these are tough competitive teams. And then the Reds
(27:24):
of course play the Ace, who are well under five hundred.
So who knows what happens by the time Monday rolls
around and we hear from you guys again, Let's.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Go Reds, Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'm in favor of the Reds going okay, let's go Reds.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Just the clarification, the Kentucky truck stop would be BUCkies.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I think.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So he wants to make sure you use Bobcats.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, but like people Ohio State fans and not the
Bobby's hold on second, Ohio State fans and people around
Ohio State don't call the Buckeyes the BUCkies. Owe you
fans and people in and around ass and went to
you and he says, Bobby, Yeah, he says, Bobby's like,
it's it's something that came from them, it's not. You
(28:18):
just can't win.
Speaker 22 (28:21):
Austin, Tony Ryan, Oh, good win for the Reds last night.
And definitely definitely don't underestimate the A's man tough, tough
offensive team.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Go get some victories. Man, see what we can do
at the end of the year. Maybe we could sneak
in who they Yep, And if they do Austin and
I can't be there, I'll be going, Nope, no, you won't.
Speaker 23 (28:46):
People giving you a hard time, my guy, because they
go with two games out and I know, I know
they're probably not gonna make it. Man, we get it,
we understand that. But can we at least act like
they have a chance until they're out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You're welcome to.
Speaker 23 (29:02):
Just give us some mism like wen, but guess what,
right now, they.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Got a shot. This is the brilliant thing about this though.
And I said that to the beginning of the show.
Our opinions don't have to be your opinions. Yeah, Like,
that's just because Austen doesn't think they have a chance
doesn't mean that they don't have a chance. I thought
we would want them to go to the playoffs. I
don't understand what's so hard about this. I've pretty much
(29:29):
been the same person ever since I've gotten a chance
to be on the air. I'm going to tell you
how I feel and what I think, and I'm going
to be honest with you. You don't have to agree with that.
How I choose to be a fan is not how
you choose to be a fan. Everybody has their own
way of being a fan, and I'm not here to
try to like make people upset or you know, you
(29:49):
know what in their corn flakes over it. I am
skeptical and optimistic about it, and I think part of
it you and I had a long form conversation about
this one day, is that we're kind of like, I
think I do this. I protect myself because I don't
want to get my hopes up and get heartbroken. So
(30:11):
I think of all the different ways that things can
go wrong. And at the end of the day, they
have played one hundred and forty six games. Correct, That
is a large sample size to come up with your
own thoughts of who the team is. What is their
longest winning streak of the season, six maybe five to
six games. They've not shown an ability to consistently win enough?
(30:35):
Can that change? Can they pull it together down the stretch?
I sure as hell hope so, because the city is
even more on fire if the Reds are in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I am comfortable with my assessment of the local ball club.
I hope that it is not true. And I even
posted on my Twitter last night, I said, let's hope
that the run we've all been waiting for is coming,
but you know, one and four.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Six games? Hope.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I believe the man was referring to BUCkies.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yes, that's correct, form Guy's.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Which is not a truck stop. By the way, they
do not even allow trucks there.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah, figure, take that. This dude's like, oh for three
against me?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Take that?
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Yes, brisket sandwich. That sounds pretty good right now. You
probably don't like brisket, do you?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Gosh, for the final sixteen games, the Bengals will go
nine and seven, the Reds will go ten and six.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Wow, Well, you say, Okay, let me, let's go on
the record here Thursday, September eleventh, Tony, if our guy
here just told you that the Bengals are going to
go ten and seven? Are you going to sign up
for that? Well, they only have sixteen games left, Well,
they've already won one. According to him, they're going to
go nine and seven the rest of the way noe,
(31:53):
which would equal out to ten and seventy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
So you're gonna take your chances going elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Hard to be a good one tonight. You got Jordan
what is love?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And Jayden Jack Daniels, Oh, head to head, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
And it's a white out for the Packers to their
winter warning uniforms at historic Lambos. Winter coming, that's what
they're trying to say. Okay, I don't think it's gonna
be snow on the ground, although nobody would be surprised.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
If it was. Winter ain't coming here this weekend?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Him into that, brother, I wish it was all right,
We're done football the Natty.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Isn't football in the Natty? Next? Do you want me?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I'm gonna give you the option. Do you want Joe
Burrow press conference or do you want read and react?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Now we're gonna go read and react on the third.
Let's do some Joe Burrow press when we come back
on Football in the Natty Next, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station.
Speaker 19 (32:47):
He's a big cat clash and the Bengals on La
Pro for a win. To get one, they'll have to
cholt the Jaguars and trust me, fur will fly get
the coal live from.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Dan and Dave.
Speaker 19 (33:01):
Coverage begins Sunday morning at nine am, stream for free
on the new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty,
the official home of US Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Wait to kick off the bun No US, we know
the NFL.
Speaker 24 (33:17):
The official home of the Bengals.
Speaker 16 (33:18):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 24 (33:22):
This is Football in the NATI, brought to you by
butt Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of
the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah it is Welcome back. You sounded like you just
took that in the NATI. Ah ah, Hi goodness, Welcome back.
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. Real quick, we're going
to play some Joe Burrow audio here from yesterday. Did
anyone ask Joe about getting the plays in quicker? Yes,
(33:54):
it's the first question. Let's get to it by our guy, Jane.
Let's repeat, go James. Here is some of Joe Burrow
from yesterday. What do you look for the most? What
you did well?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You didn't do?
Speaker 23 (34:07):
I don't think we know how many snaps traveled.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
You know, I got to press the right butt?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Whoa, whoa?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
What I was starting at midway through? Here's James's question,
Is there anything you guys can pre snap?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
This week's a pre snap?
Speaker 20 (34:19):
Isn't You don't have those kind of communication issues or
frustrations going into Sunday?
Speaker 18 (34:32):
You know, I'm not sure we hadn't. We had many
communication issues on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
We had can We called two timeouts?
Speaker 18 (34:44):
One we lined up in the wrong formation, and I
can't remember what happened on the other one. But you know,
aside from that, I feel like our operation in communication
and it was pretty sound on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
For Miles, what do you can him up the middle
on you?
Speaker 22 (35:01):
You take a lot of hits and games.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Where's that one rank in terms of.
Speaker 16 (35:08):
That?
Speaker 18 (35:10):
I didn't necessarily when you're out there, you don't really
feel much. Let's say that was my best throw of
the day. Everybody likes to show that hit, but not
necessarily where I put the ball in that situation.
Speaker 23 (35:23):
I don't think we know how many snaps Travis Hunter
is gonna play on defense yet.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I mean, just one week for him so far.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
But did you watch him much in college?
Speaker 13 (35:30):
You know much about his game?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
And what have you noticed?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, I watched I watched a lot of.
Speaker 18 (35:36):
Colorado games last year.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Pick.
Speaker 18 (35:40):
I feel like the timing and somehow always lined up
for when we were off on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
But I got a lot of respect for Number one.
Speaker 18 (35:50):
What are he was able to do in college? How
many snaps he played? The elite level that he would
play at on both sides of the ball when he
was out there. You know last week he didn't. He
didn't play much on defense, So there's very limited tape
on that on that end for for me, So I
don't have a ton to to say on that front.
But I know what I watched in college, and on
(36:13):
the defensive side of the ball, he's His ball skills
are obviously great. That's why he's playing offense too, and
he just continuously made plays it seemed like in big spots.
Speaker 16 (36:27):
Uh.
Speaker 18 (36:27):
So I got a lot of respect for for what
he did and how he did it, and I'm excited
to watch him in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
In the league now that salary.
Speaker 18 (36:40):
Not really you don't see a ton You don't see
a ton of guys with his ball skill ability playing
on the defensive side of the ball. You know, Trayvon
Diggs had the one season with all those interceptions. But
you know, like I said, I haven't studied the tape
(37:03):
of him on defense from college and he played what
was the three snaps on defense last week, so I
haven't seen a ton of that.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
What do you look for the most?
Speaker 25 (37:12):
What you did well, you didn't do well, and following
that up, curious whether or not you ever looked and
how to play and think I could have forced it
there and I didn't.
Speaker 26 (37:24):
And yeah, I think when you watch it first, you
you try to find just try to figure out what
happened on the first time you watch it.
Speaker 18 (37:38):
You know there's a lot of stuff going on throughout
the game, and you remember the plays and what happened,
but you know the film tells a different story, and
so you try to figure out if what you remember
happening is actually what happened on the tape, and then
(37:59):
then you look at.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
How did what they did affect what we did?
Speaker 18 (38:04):
Did we do the right thing depending on how the
defense played, And yeah, there's of course always some plays
that you'd like to have back, and certainly depending on
the situation, there's sometimes one that you could could have
maybe been a little more aggressive with the ball as
opposed to what you did decide to do with it.
(38:26):
So there's always learning experiences from every drive, every play,
every game, is.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
There one of two things that you want to do
better the subject?
Speaker 18 (38:44):
You know, I think I'm gonna be a little more
aggressive to maybe get out of the pocket and make
some plays, you know, just like every game, you want
to get out and see how things are going. How's
the defense playing in, how's their front playing, what coverages
are we getting? You know, how how are we attacking
(39:08):
them so far? And how's it going? Do we need
to change? And we need to keep attacking them the
way the way that they are, So I'm gonna be
ready to attack adapt for for whatever we see.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
What excites you the most about coming back home and
playing in front of the home crowd here is just
another opportunity.
Speaker 9 (39:24):
You know, with our.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
This is what we do for a living, This is
what we love to do.
Speaker 18 (39:28):
Go out and try to put on a show for
the people in this city and in this organization, and
this is another opportunity to do it.
Speaker 19 (39:35):
We have.
Speaker 18 (39:37):
I think we have nine home games this year, so
we got nine opportunities to do it. This will be
the first one, and I'm excited for it.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
You and Trevor have a relationship all over the years or.
Speaker 18 (39:46):
Now just just just talking when we play each other.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Does that win over the Jags, your first pro win
feel like one hundred years ago?
Speaker 18 (39:55):
Yeah, one hundred years ago in yesterday. I certainly remember
a lot about that game, but uh, like you said
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
They were not rained, and any stand out.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I had, uh, we.
Speaker 18 (40:11):
Had a pressure from the backside and empty and somebody
was free and I pretend like I didn't see him,
but I did see him, and I made miss and
wheeled out and got about seven yarns. That's the one
that I remember.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
The first time.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
What impressed you about what Jacksonville did this past week?
Speaker 18 (40:30):
You can see their energy and physicality on defense. I
think their front is very disruptive. It feels like I
say that every week, but you know, they have a
lot they have a lot of guys that I respect
on on that front.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Uh.
Speaker 18 (40:41):
And they came up with some big time defensive plays.
A safety drove a low cross on a on a
naked and popped it up in the air, and guy
made a diving interception, and they punched the ball out
and ah, I think they were up maybe four to
ten or fourteen and and Carolina was driving. They punched
(41:01):
the ball out and got a fumber recovery. Those are
big time plays. So those are things that you always
have to be aware of. But they put it on tape,
So that's something that we've discussed.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
All right. That is Joe Burrow speaking yesterday coming out
of the Browns game, looking ahead to the Jacksonville Jaguars game.
I don't know why, Austin, but one of the things
that you like people talk about, like nails on a chalkboard, hm,
When I can hear people consistently typing away on a
(41:31):
keyboard while I'm hearing answers that like mentally drives me insane.
Do you hear that at all? When they were listening
to those I do. I don't know why, but because
I can type on a keyboard or listen to it.
But when he's giving answers, it like drives me nuts.
I think it was one of the unintended consequences.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, the speaker of the up but can't have it.
L There was one during his one of his very
first answer, he was like tearing the label off of
his water bottle. Oh my gosh, you couldn't hear anything, Yeah,
I said, Oh, anyway, So that's what Joe Burrow had
to say. We will wrap up our number two next
with some Reds updates on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 24 (42:12):
You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN
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Speaker 1 (42:24):
See three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Welcome back since e three sixty On ESPN fifteen thirty,
Cincinnati Sports Station, Austin. How about this, Yes, Postman Law
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you see that what the Reds have done today? I
did the Reds have activated from the fifteen day injury
(43:00):
list right handed pitcher Chase Burns, right handed pitcher pitcher
Graham Ashcraft. They have optioned to triple a Lion Richardson
and Yosfer Zulawaita.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Why you always Lion Richardson? How about that? So is
a huge bullpen? I do Ashcraft and Burns. Back to
the Cincinnati Reds and the way Zach Maxwell has been
pitching lately obviously Santian. As Charlie noted on his account,
it does give the Reds a lot more flexibility in
(43:32):
the bullpen, which is big. In a pennant race like this,
Let's go or a playoff chase, they should say we're here,
We're back.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
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(44:47):
allowed to win it, or else I'd be there all
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me this as well. Thursday Night Football that's Amazon Prime.
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to find the game tonight, you want to watch Commanders,
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be having the game. That's where your coverage goes.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
When we come back, maybe come point in hour three.
We'll spend a few minutes on the red so you'll
hear from Terry Francona Audio. Let's get things started with
a little read and react. Read and react. We'll take
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