September 10, 2025 • 40 mins
Tony and Austin talk with Dan Hoard, Mo Egger, and more in Hour 3 on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back, Cincy three to sixty. Hour three is here
thanks to our friends at Penn Station. Thank you for
listening on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports Station. We have the Hall of Fame Voice
of the Cincinnati Bearcats and the voice of the Cincinnati
Bengals joining us to kick off Hour number three right now.
It's Dan Horde. Dan, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Tony Austin. It's a beautiful day in the Natti and
I can't wait for two home games this weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You got to sweep over the weekend, Dan, with the
Bearcats knocking off Bowling Green, Bengals, go and beat the
Cleveland Browns. Let's discuss. Let's start, obviously with with the
Browns Bengals game. Everyone points at the offense and the
struggles we've seen the struggles early in the season. We
know how talented this roster is. And yes, you see
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seven yards and a half and that can certainly screw
you a little bit. But if you look at this
from the grand scheme of things, there's not a lot
to be concerned about about this offense. Correct.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Is anybody worried about the Bengals offense long term? Curiously?
I mean I don't think anybody is. I'm certainly not.
They scored fewer the points last year in Week one
than they did this year, and they wound up being
the sixth highest scoring team in the NFL. So I
think the offense is going to break out, and probably
break out soon. Look out, Jacksonville. It could happen this Sunday.
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That would not surprise me at all.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The difference of this year to play underpar offensively, to
play good on defense, but find a way to win
a game that maybe you shouldn't have won. How different
of a few does that create now from the locker
room to now going into this week of practice, Because
there is there's a lot to work on for any
team after Week one, But when you're able to do that,
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when you want to know, it makes it a lot
easier going forward.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I just want to go back to the twenty twenty
two season when they started slowly. In that year, they
did wind up in the AFC Championship game, but in
Week one they basically lost exactly how they won last week.
It was that game against the Steelers. Clark Harris got hurt.
They had to have Mitchell Wilcox snap money Mack has
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a paight, a game winning pat blocked in the last
ten second seconds when it looked like Burrow had pulled
off a miracle comeback. And then they had a field
goal try in overtime that was less than thirty yards
that they shanked left because the snap came back at like,
you know, four miles an hour instead of the normal
velocity would come back. So it's happened to them before.
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It's about time that another team lost in the exact
same fashion. And I don't care how it looked. They
got the win. They're going to get better and road
wins in the division are hard to come by, so
I don't care how it looked. I am not the
least bit upset about how they played. They won the
freaking game. Let's go win another.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
We all know how confident the Bengals offense is. But
I can't stop watching that video of the Bengals posted
of Burrow going through the locker room and the defensive
back saying, we got your back, We got your back.
How important is it for a young group that has
a lot of pressure on them to feel the confidence
that they feel after a game that they played so
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well in Cleveland going into the rest of the season,
because you know, they've been kind of beat up and
talked about quite a bit. How important is confidence for
a young group, especially that secondary.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Really really important, especially after what happened in the preseason,
Because we praised the defense for looking good during training camp,
and it did. We weren't making it up. You know,
there were days that the defense outperformed burrowing the offense
in other days where it's more or less a stalemate.
Then in the three seats preseason games, they were atrocious
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and everybody thought, oh, here we go again. It might
even be worse. So for them to come out with
Al Golden calling the game the way he intended to
call it, guys giving it full effort and play as
well as they did, I think that was great for
their confidence. And it begins with stopping the run. This
team has been atrocious at defending the run for the
past several years. To have a team keep running so
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twenty four carries for the Browns, it wasn't like they
abandoned it early in the game. Not to have a
single carry longer than five yards. Had averaged two yards
per carry in the game. That's winning football. So there
are things to tighten up in the secondary, but sixteen
points in two yards of carry is going to get
it done most of the time.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Couple levels and layers to this defense that I wanted
to highlight one. You know, Al Golden was a linebackers
coach here before going to become the defensive coordinator. I
looked at this position as kind of an unknown because
you bring in Demetrius Knight out of the draft, you
get Logan Wilson back, and in the first opportunity they
have in a real game to play together, Demetrius Knight
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solo tackles ten total. Logan Wilson had seven tackles. What
did you feel that that was the key to unlocking
what they were able to get from their linebackers, especially
a guy Demetrius Knight playing in his first NFL game Tony.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think he had six tackles on the Browns opening drive.
That's got to be an NFL record, right, most tackles
by a defensive player in his debut on an opening drive.
I can't imagine anybody's ever had more than six. I
thought he was great, and I thought that he looked
exactly like the guy that we had described moments after
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the Bengals drafted him. Two hundred and forty pounds, fast, downhill,
hard hitting. Maybe not the greatest coverage linebacker out there.
Eric Carter will probably get more and more playing time
and obvious passing situations. But if you're looking for a
guy that hits people and makes, you know, help set
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the tone on first down and second down, Demetrius Knight
is that guy, and I thought he was great.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's it's one thing to have great linebacker play, but
those linebackers also need to be able to play downhill
and play without having to shed blocks. And when your
front four is doing their job, it makes the linebacker's
job a lot easier. And I'm talking anywhere from BJ
Hill what Mike Pennell was able to do. TJ. Slayton,
who they went out and got Chris Jenkins. The list
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can go on and on. What from the front four
and again they made an emphasis to get better at
stopping the run. It just allows those linebackers to play
so much more free. What was your take on that
front four as a whole coming out a Week one?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I thought TJ Slayton was exactly what he was supposed
to be, a quick three hundred and forty pound guy
that's hard to block, hard to double team and help
shut down the run. He did that, plus showed a
little bit as a pass rusher, which was a pleasant surprise.
I thought Trey played the run well in Week one,
which was great to see. You know what have we
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said about Trey Hendrickson during the contract negotiations, elite pass rusher,
one of the best in the NFL, but not the
run stopper that Miles Garrett and Max Crosby are well.
Trade did a nice job against the run in Week
one and helped them get into obvious passing situations. Chris
Jenkins was solid. I thought DJ Hill was really good
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considering how little he did during training camp. Miles Murphy
was okay for the twenty two snaps that he was
in there, and Shamar Stewart looked excellent, so I thought
across the board, the defensive line looked really good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
As you shift your focus to Jacksonville and prepare for them,
what stands out about the Jags.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Plus rushing yards in Week one against Carolina and more
than six yards of carry, So here we go. The
Bengals defense looked great at stopping the run in Week one,
but now they're facing a team that was as good
as anybody in the NFL and their opener at running
the ball, so it's going to be a legit challenge.
Etn appeared to be as good as ever in Week one.
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He finished with one and fifty one hundred and forty
three rushing yards in that victory, nearly nine yards of carry.
I'm a Syracuse grad, so I had hopes that maybe
the Bengals would take Lequint Allen in the draft this year.
He went to Jacksonville in the seventh round instead. Really
good pass catcher out of the backfield. So I think
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the running game and the running backs in general are good,
and that's going to be a job one for the
Bengals this week.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How much can what Shamar Steward gives them allow al
Golm to unlock with this defense because he looks like
a guy to me. He showed the strength We've all
seen the clips of him against the Cleveland Browns and
the overall strength I've seen him taking on three blockers
to allow others to make a tackle. We know he's
got speed, we know there's athleticism, and I know he
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didn't flash from a box score, but I thought he
flashed just watching the game. And that's Game one. How
much can Al Golden use him in a way that
maybe they can't use all the other defensive ends where
they can move him inside, they can move them outside,
they can stand him up a little bit. What does
he give Al Golden.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's definitely the most versatile guy that they have up front.
I'm feeling good about my preseason hot take that he
would finish in the top five in the NFL as
a rookie in deflected passes. He had two in Week one,
only one counted, unfortunately because of a penalty on Orrin Burks.
I might have to update that prediction to he will
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lead the NFL in deflected passes as a rookie and
it will be double digits. He's got an uncanny knack
at getting his hands on passes, and part of that
is just, you know, the sheer physical freak aspect. His
wingspan is seven feet, he's six'. Five because of his,
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explosiveness he generally gets close to the quarterback even if
he doesn't hit. Him so there you. Go he will
leave THE nfl as a rookie into flect the glasses
landhard hot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Take you AND i had a chance to See Travis
hunter live in. Person what do you view from your
time watching him as his biggest? Strength is it in
the secondary or is it with The Jacksonville jaguars as
a wide.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Receiver, well they are using him as a wide. Receiver
so In week one he had a good. Game he
had six, catches didn't go for a ton of yards
thirty three, yards but he didn't get a ton of
snaps on. DEFENSE i think it was six snaps on
defense In week. One it's. Funny last year At colorado
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he had more than fourteen hundred, snaps more than three
hundred more than any other college. Player last week he
had thirty, nine so that would average out to less
than seven hundred snaps during the course of a seventeen game.
Season less than half of his workload last year At,
colorado So i'd expect that number to go, up but
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at least In week one they didn't use him a
ton ON.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Dp he led the team in targets In week. One
Brian Thomas, junior who is an all world type, receiver
only had one catch in the. Game This jacksonville, Offense,
DAN i feel like with a new, coach a new play,
Caller Trevor lawrence is kind of in that put up
or shut up type season and as you, mentioned they
were able to get the running game. Going it does
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make them a viable threat offensively going into a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Game and you've got to think That brian, Targets Brian
thomas is going to get targeted a budge On sunday
after getting one catch in week. One he had nearly
thirteen hundred receiving yards as a. Rookie and how ABOUT
lsu wide, Receivers so when you see, HIM i, mean
the list now is it's like The Mount rushmore of
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wide receivers. Period Jamar, Justin, jefferson elite Neighbors Brian, thomas they're,
Active Odell Beckham junior and some of the other guys
that were there in the. Past it's pretty. Good stop.
Bad Jarvis landry comes to. Mind it's Great Jarvis. Landry,
yeah throw him on the. List Brandon. Lafelle if you
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want to throw a Former bengal in. There there was
good News Patriots. Day so it's you, Know cincinnati tight
Ends ye AND lsu wide.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Receivers there you, go makes, sense makes. Sense what's the
one thing you want to see them improve on the
most from game one to game? Two obviously getting burrow
a little bit more comfortable The bengals in, hindsight we're
only able to run it for two yards of carry as,
Well what do you want to see most improve from
week one to week?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Two similar to what we just said About Brian, THOMAS
i want to see a lot more Of Jamar. Chase
Credit cleveland for doing a good job, of you, know
voting their coverages to him and finding ways to prevent
burrowed from hooking up with. Him but two catches for
twenty six yards is not what we expect From Jamar.
Chase and he doesn't have back to back unproductive games very.
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Often you can probably count on one hand the number
of times in HIS nfl career he's gone two games
in a row without having a pretty big. Game SO
i would Expect jamar to come out and have maybe
not double digit catches On, sunday but certainly more than,
five and if not more than one hundred yards close to.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
IT i have to ask with Our bearcats as. Well
WHILE i have a disappointing start to the, season they fought.
HARD i thought the defense played well Against, nebraska and
then you flip the switch To Bowling, Green. DAN i
thought it was such a unique game because it never
felt to me in the second half Like Eddie george
was trying to win the. Game it felt like they
were very. Content it was. Weird they were content taking their,
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time they were content getting a couple of, yards and
in lieu of, that you get beaten in time of
possession by a wide. Margin Bowling green runs more. Plays
how do you view the win Against Bowling green because
obviously there's a lot to improve, on but it just
never felt like a Normal saturday college football.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Game and what you were saying About Eddie, george they
got passed the fifty twice facing fourth and short and.
Punted that's nineteen seventies. Strategy That's Don shula With Bob
greasy and The dolphins way back When Chuck knowell with
The steelers and their great defense in the. Seventies that's
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not how teams do it. Now when you've got fourth
and short at the other team's forty one yard, line
you don't worry about twenty yards of field. Position you
try to keep the ball in. Score SO i thought
that that was kind of strange By Eddie. George my
overall view of the game last week was good first
second half of good first, half poor second, half twenty
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one to three at the. Half they kick the field
goal in the third quarter to make a twenty four to.
Three it looked like they were going to win by four.
Touchdowns Then Evan pryor fumbled Bowling green scored a touchdown
three players, later and suddenly that gave him a little confidence,
momentum and the team's kind of traded scores the rest
of the. Way SO i don't expect this week's game
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to be. Close Northwestern state over the past several years
has been one of the weakest teams in the. Country
they got crushed last week By, northwestern SO i think
it's going to be a laffer for The bearcats and
then after a bye, week it gets real with a
road game Of.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Kansas speaking of, confidence they didn't get much going in
the run, game but there was such an emphasis on
the passing. Game they Get Jeff cadwell involved unbelievable one handed.
Catch Joe royer had a seventy three yard, catch albeit
he was just targeted twice in the. Game Cyrus allen
a forty four yarder with two. Touchdowns how important going
forward is that explosive downfield play going to be for
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this offense to unlock it's full capability if they want
to be as balanced as they.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Can it's, big AND i think typically what does a
team do from week to? Week the first thing you'd
do is try to improve upon the things that you
did poorly the week. Before so In week, One cincinnati's
passing game was. Bad didn't even have seventy passing yards
in the, game and about half of what they had
came on their final. Drive so what do you do
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the next? Week you try to fix what was bad
the previous. Week they fixed. It three hundred and thirty
three passing, yards three. Touchdowns Jeff caldwell had one hundred
Plus Joe royer had one hundred. Plus so the passing
game was, there but the running game wasn't as, good
just just over one hundred yards Against Bowling. Green so
what do they do the next week to look to fix?
That SO i would expect the running game to be.
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Better the passing game might not be quite as explosive
as it was as a, result but it doesn't have to.
Be let's try to get both cooking for when they
needed Against kansas.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Two quick ones on the defensive side of the ball
before we let you go? One are we? Nationally Is
Jake golde being undervalued? NATIONALLY i mean he. Is he's
all over the. FIELD i know he was on the
preseason freak, list but he. WAS i mean it's hard
to be a one man wrecking crew in college. Football
he was every bit of. That he had fourteen. Tackles
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he flies all over the. Field he can, cover he
can get after the. Passer he's a short. Tackler he's,
UNDERVALUED i, think in my, opinion nationally.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Totally, agree maybe not AMONG nfl. SCOUTS i think the
buzz is growing For Jake. GOLDAY i think he's going
to be a starting linebacker in THE. Nfl but he's
tied for the national league in tacklesber. Game he's had
a sack in each of the first two. Games as you,
mentioned he's been good in. Coverage the dude as a total,
stud AND i think the reason why maybe people don't
know about him is that he's only been a linebacker for,
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basically you, know a year and a. Half he started
his college career as a defensive, end kind of a
defensive stand up rush end At Central, arkansas a. Bench
they moved him the linebacker towards the end of his time,
there and now obviously he's been a full time linebacker At,
cincinnati so he's still learning the. Position but he's two
hundred and forty, pounds runs twenty two miles an. HOUR i,
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mean the dude's a freak and it's showing up on the.
Field he's been fun to.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
WATCH i know they're not going to have Him, saturday
and then you get the help of the bye. Week
it's an understatement, already but how important is Getting Dante
corleone back to this team when they get Into big
twelve play. It we've talked about. It it looks like
a completely different defense up the. Middle, obviously When Dante
corleone is not able to.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Go it's. Critical they're not going to win a lot
Of big twelve games About Dante, corleone and hopefully he
doesn't have to miss Any the bye week. Helps the
hope is he'll be back in time For, kansas if
not that, game then the following week Against Diowa. STATE
i will say one thing though about his. Absence in
the short, term they've been playing With dante in the
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middle And jalen Hu hunt as a defensive end in
their three man defensive. LINE i Think jalen is capable
of moving inside and the drop off won't be as
big as it's, been you, know keeping him on the.
End SO i think that's probably what they would likely
to do in the short, term Have jalen playing the inside,
more have other guys play on the, outside AND i
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think that their defensive line can be. Solid not as
good as it is With dante out, there BUT i
think it can be solid With hunt playing in the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Middle where do you Rank Bowling green Linebacker Gideon lampren
from a middle name standpoint in all the years you've
been calling, football that would.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Be GIDEON Espn. Lampram you Know lamprin WHAT i don't
know BECAUSE i didn't, ask is if he pronounces IT
espn or if he pronounces IT. Espen, yes that's one
THING i should have asked and. Didn't but, yes on
his birth certificate it IS. ESPN i believe his dad
was sports. Fan that would seem to, correlate and he
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says he loves, it so good for. Him some kits
might be embarrassed by, that but he said he's very
proud of his middle, name and good for. Him he played.
Well Former dayton, guy they can't move to the mac
and he played.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well that's, right led the second on the team in
tackles On. Saturday, DAN i can't thank you enough for joining.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Us.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Man you're the absolute, best AND i look forward to
seeing you here in a couple of.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Days right back at, You, Ton thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
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Speaker 2 (20:57):
Gone fair, ball steven, said has put The reds on
top with a laser out of here to laught a
laser to left that broke a two to two. Tie
late in last night's, Game reds win at four to.
Two that's. Lost giants. Won reds three back in the Wild,
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know right now who the most penalized team in college football?
Speaker 8 (23:39):
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And Paul, gunther two of the worst defensive minds in
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Football what do we think about? THAT i just think
all that coming it? Up, yeah who would? Think who
would have saw that?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Coming? Shocker.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Incredible let me ask you a couple of. Questions, okay
and you tell. Me should people overreact to it or?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Not?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay reds are three games back in the Wild. Card
how should people? Feel they shouldn't feel any way at.
All don't, overreact don't get excited and get? Excited what
about people that now, say, well The bengals defense is.
Good i'm not saying they're, elite not saying they're. Great
but what about the people that after one week, say,
man The bengals defense is.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Good you should not be saying that. Either, okay don't don't.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Overreact, okay what about the people in The National Football
league that are, saying, man The cults are.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Good absolutely. Not, No, no you're.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Not you're not A Daniel jones.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Believer, no we're not doing this after week? One, Okay,
okay don't, Overreact that's WHAT i, say.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
THOUGHTS i would not overreact to The bengals. DEFENSE i
would definitely not overreact to the to The Cincinnati, reds
And i'm not yet overreacting to The Indianapolis. Colts, okay
do you overreact to The Pittsburgh steelers? Offense?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
NO i.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Don't this is kind of a bad game for me
BECAUSE i don't overreact to anything in week. One, okay
because it's week one and it doesn't really, matter all.
Right do you know in two thousand and, one The
bengals open their season with a home victory over The
New England. Patriots, Wow Corey dillon played, great killing clock
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Killing Corey dillon played. Great and you, know this was
not a good football, team The. Bengals they were six and,
ten but they Beat New england twenty three to seventeen that. Day,
okay you know What New england went on to do
won A Super. Bowl they won The Super bowl.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Yep so.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You, know does anybody when you think of the two
thousand and One New England, patriots does anybody, Say, ah
they lost that game to The bengals to start the.
Season but at the same what about the following week
when they lost to The New York jets ten to.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Three but there are things in place that people. Do
like a lot of people now after one week AND
i know the roster is, better are, saying, well The
packers are the team to beat in THE. Nfc, no
you still don't think, so don't do. That, no who's
THE nfc team to Beat? Philadelphia?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Still?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Okay why should it be anyone? Different, Well packers had
such an impressive win against The. Lions, okay and the
and the and The eagles had to hang on to
beat The. Cowboys Cd ram handed drop the. Game maybe
The cowboys are better than we, thought and maybe The
lions are worse than We what about it's too early to,
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tell what about not enough?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Data how should we react to what The chargers did
to The? Chiefs more about what The chargers did impressive
or more about maybe what we discussed with The chiefs
of just not being as good this.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Year my thought, was maybe The chargers are gonna throw
it more THAN i thought they. Would the identity of
jim harball led football teams outside of cheating to, win
is running the. Football that's just what they're known to.
Do and they drafted o'mary In, hampton and they Got Najie,
harris and they've got a good offensive, line and you're
thinking ground and pound With Jimmy harbs and The, chargers,
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well they put the ball in the hands of their
quarterback to win the game over and over and over.
Again they Made Quintin johnston be a, threat which is
a very difficult. Task they made him. Good so my
thought process, is, oh maybe The chargers are more of
a threat through the air than through the. Ground, okay
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these are the things you opened the, space or you
create space for. Possibilities you don't say. Okay week one
hypothesis concludes this is what is fact or not FAUND
i have one more.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All, right week? One should we overreact to WHAT jj
McCarthy did in the second, Half, like IS jj McCarthy
a legitimate quarterback in THE. Nfl i'm not saying an elite.
Quarterback i'm not saying a guy that's gonna put the
team on his. Back IS jj McCarthy a good? QUARTERBACK
i don't excuse. ME i KNOW i TALKED jj McCarthy
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and all of a, sudden you're choked.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
UP i guess.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
GUTS i don't think he.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
IS i don't think he.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
IS i.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Do But kevin O'Connell is the best coach in THE.
NFL i just like can turn him into a.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Winner the way people were talking about how he was
in the locker room and what he was doing on
the sidelines and in the, huddle and then delivering like
that and watching that team in the locker.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
ROOM jj McCarthy since high, SCHOOL i believe is sixty
four and three as a starting. Quarterback, now obviously a
huge chunk of those have to be thrown away because it's, shooting,
sure but sixty four and three is a starting. Quarterback
the guy has experienced a lot of different ways to
win whether that's through getting the opponent's, signals or making
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a play with his, feet or making a big time,
throw or in A national championship game only throwing the
ball ten. Times he's found ways to. Win so you
couple that with the best coach in THE, nfl a
guy who seems to fit their system pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well there you. Go all, right there we have. It
what we're saying, here What austin's, saying don't. Overreact, Yeah
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Speaker 4 (29:18):
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Speaker 1 (29:19):
Ruckton he sixty continues ON espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports.
Station it's time for since he three sixty quick hits
ON espn.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Fifteen WHO.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Guys, yeah we're all big baseball, fans, right and you,
know baseball has slid in the collective consciousness of sports
fans in this country WHERE i have, wondered, like does
baseball have something that would grab people's attention like Cal
ripkens streak in nineteen ninety, five Or maguire And sosa
in nineteen ninety, Eight like would a guy trying to
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hit four, hundred you, know would that captured people's imagination
a long hitting, streak like if somebody Challenged Pete rose
forty four The National Recorder Joe demaggio's fifty, six would
people be locked? In AND i Think i've stumbled upon the. Answer,
oh BECAUSE i don't know about. YOU i am captivated
by this race that is unfolding right, now where The
red's three leading home run hitters Lead Kyle schwarber now by.
(30:19):
One Whoa who's gonna end up with more? Homers Kyle,
schwarber who hit his fiftieth last, night or the combined
trio Of Ellie, Delacruz Spencer steer And Austin.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Hages, Well ellie hit another one this? Year sure doesn't
feel like, It so you?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Did?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He nice to see South stewart get more, Opportunities no
question that Guy Will benson who never.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Starts ellie hit a.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
BALL i thought for a, second Like ellie Or Will
benson like broke his. Head, yeah But ellie hit a
ball last night and it felt like he hit it
his And Peco park's a big. Park but he hit
a ball last night to dead center, field and it's
like that right now feels like about as hard as
he could hit.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It, yeah but.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
This is gonna it's gonna catch debate me, sure regardless
of what happens with the wildcard, chase was which The reds?
Are they're still. There they've got bounce backability, Now but
who's going to finish with more home? Runs the trio
Of red's leading home run hitters Or Kyle. Schwarber right,
now it's neck and neck fifty one.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
FIFTY i imagine this takes up at least an hour
of your program to what's.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Going to take up the next like two and a.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Half we got on, Life how do you go? Get
what do you do for the rest of your?
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Show you got to think LIKE mlb network is going
to be breaking into all four hitters at. Bats, yeah,
right this is going to be the sort of thing
people are going to be tracking all across the.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Country you're, right what else you got? Today Joe burrow's
going to talk at three. Fifteen at, Fifteen, well last
week we have a chart behind all. This we all
charted detailing how on time or late he. Is it's
kind of like The bengals getting the play call. In,
oh you want it to happen on, time but you
don't know we were.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Just talking about this off.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Air can someone ask him second drive of the, season
first play of, it they have to call a time.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Out not like after a three and out, either, right thirty? Minutes.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Right So Joe burrows in his sixth, season every game
he's played in the Nfl' Zach taylor's been the play,
caller the personnel is basically the. Same why is that
taking so?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Long WHAT i don't? Understand joe has now seen? Everything uh.
Huh If i'm the play, Caller i'm getting it in.
Quick and Then i'm gonna, Say, joe you go do
what you need to do with the line of, scrimmage
because that's, protection that's adjusting the, routes that's maybe changing
past to, run run to. Pass like there are countless.
Examples Aaron rodgers does, it probably maybe one of the
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best in THE nfl right now because he's been around so.
Long there's clips of. Him he's got fifteen seconds at
the line of. Scrimmage, yeah to fake a, snap try
to get the defense to, move adjust, things and then
you're sure of what the defense is. Doing now you
can find open receivers, instead even when they are getting
a snap Off burrow's having to clap because there's two
seconds on the, clock, right and he can't even go
through a normal.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Cadence they practice right like they went to, practice were. Doing,
Uh so we'll spend some time on.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
That Danny kanell is going to join us talk to
some College paul get his thoughts on the big game
Between cincinnati And Northwestern State.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Hi cincinnati should win this game by nine.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
TOUCHDOWNS i PUT i put fifty out, There, okay win
by at least.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
FIFTY i want to see three quarterbacks play On. Saturday,
YEAH i want to see all three dudes.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Go.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yep so we'll spend some time on.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
That our Guy sean Sayed stats And scheme, podcast because
WHAT i want to know from him is, like The
browns have great, corners, right but was there were there
things in that game that other teams can? Go, okay
maybe we don't have the specific personnel The browns, do
but we could apply some concepts to what we.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Have, yeah so that in so much. More Xavier's december
schedule for The Big east not. Great no home games
Against creighton And yukon while the students aren't. There so
that's a big deal in college athletics enormous whole, atmospheres
especially especially That Cintas. Center THAT'S i, mean that's a
tough opening slate in The Big.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
East do we know Who xavier's best player is going
to know this?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Year, like Does xavier? Know my guess is.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
NO I i Think Richard patino long term is gonna work.
OUT i am having a hard time finding anybody who
is that optimistic About xavier's team this.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Season, yeah we asked, earlier who comes up with who
determines the? Schedule is that The Big East conference as a? Whole,
well is there input from the schools at? All there's
input from the, schools there's input from THE tv. Partners
in The.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Big, east they have a couple of teams that SHARE
nba arenas and so you have to work around THE nba.
Schedule marquette's one of. Them Saint john's obviously is one of.
Them villanova has games that are played at The philadelphia
seventy six Ers, Arena so that's a.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Consideration but what gets me is how long this?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Takes?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Now, YEAH i mean WE'RE uc, fans no waiting Mid.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
September we have the non league.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Schedule we don't have the conference, schedule but, Yeah december
is gonna Be it's gonna be. Tough and then you,
consider Like Richard patino is gonna have to spend by
his own. ADMISSION i heard him say this on his
show last. Week the first six seven weeks of the,
season figuring out his team and then oh, boy here
we go without the students at The Centa. Center good
teams in The Big.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
East Jalen carter is not going to be suspended for
an additional game because he essentially didn't play in the
open or do you have any problem with?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
That how much SHOULD i ignore his? BACKGROUND i mean
that's a big part in. It how much SHOULD i
ignore his background before he was?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Drafted?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Right?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Like this strikes me as not a good?
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Guy, Correct so when not a good guy gets the
book thrown at, HIM i have a hard time feeling
sorry for. Him is there A is there a standardized?
Punishment see this is the problem WITH i think you
could apply this to all the, sports but there's no specific,
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criteria and it always feels Like Roger goodell in THE
nfl are making it up as they go, along or
it would be unsurprising if something like that happened, again
if the suspension was like three, GAMES.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I just hope we don't have to like set a
precedent for people spitting on.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
People you AND i were doing an unplugged show AND
i said to, you in our broken social, construct where
we can't agree on, ANYTHING i feel like the one,
thing the one piece of common ground we all have
is if you spit on, somebody you deserve to have
your ass. Kicked what is remarkable to me is that
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in AN nfl, game even early in THE nfl, game
in AN nfl, game one guy spit on the other
and nothing. Happened that is one of the most remarkable
THINGS i have ever. SEEN i mean like IT'S i
feel like that's the one thing we can all agree,
On like you do not spit on somebody.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Else anything happened in the college game where it happened,
Either no, PEOPLE.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I don't know That i'd spit on that. Part in,
FACT i wouldn't spit on that. Person, No austin not
gonna stay on the.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Air there is a certain love of people THAT i
just don't.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Reach THOUGH i don't, Know i've never it's never crossed
my mind to spit on.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Somebody, yeah it hadden't for me either until. Recently you
don't get AN Ap top twenty five, vote do?
Speaker 6 (37:08):
You i'm not in The Associated, Press so if you,
do should You lord help?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Us just have fun with? It should this girl be
getting a lot of the pushbacks she's? Getting, No these
votes this early in the season mean. Nothing THE Ap
top twenty five needs.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Nothing the idea of we might as we might as
well do this since the three Sixty top twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Five but the idea of not Ranking South florida and
Moving florida up is. Bizarre it's. Bizarre but when you
cast Your heisman, vote do you do it just to have? Fun?
Speaker 7 (37:35):
NO i take it seriously BECAUSE i think IT'S i
think there's a certain amount of responsibility you have with.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
THAT i take.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
ITS i spend like from late to Late september to
WHEN i cast the vote in Early, december like every
week here are my Top?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Thine are we the only ones in this building that
Have heisman? VOTES i think.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
SO i think we're only two a handful of people
in the.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
City, Yeah rocky doesn't have.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
ONE i don't.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Know he.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
MAY i mean it's a he would he would deserve.
One when you are given a, vote you are allowed
to apply your own. Criteria people get mad at Like
hall Of fame, voters he should have his ballot taken. Away,
no because he put a ballot that you may disagree
with and doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
You he has earned that.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Vote it's he is allowed to apply or she allowed
to apply whatever criteria they, wish and the same. APPLIES
i disagree with her. LOGIC i disagree with what she
chose to, do but nor her vote shouldn't be. TAKEN
i like the, transparency like the. Rationale we don't always
get that in such.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Matters it's better than the person who never owned up
to not Putting Ken Griffy junior on their.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Ballot three, PEOPLE i, believe, right, yeah three. HOURS i
mean like idiots to, me like you.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Have the, vote explain yourself and you know chances are
A i'll, go, okay well that's kind of, stupid BUT
i appreciate you sharing your rationale AND i appreciate that
in This but THE ap top twenty five poll has
never meant. Less we actually have a committee that chooses
who makes the, playoff and there's more teams in it
than ever, before so THE ap top twenty five is totally, pointless.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
And we switched to that ranking In. November, yeah those
rankings go. Away never mattered. Less it used to matter a.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Lot it used to matter a whole lot when the
writers chose who the national champion. Was the, writers thankfully
don't have that power. Anymore so why do we care so?
Much let me finish this the way we started. It
give me the higher Total Hayes Steer ellie total home
runs by the end of the. Year, okay you see
points On. Saturday you see points On. Saturday.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Okay So Northwestern states kind of.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Had to rebuild their program from.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Scratch at the end of the twenty twenty three, season
they canceled their last seven. Games that a player gets
shot and, killed, unfortunately and so because of that they
canceled the rest of the. Season last year is starting from.
Scratch they went oh to. Twelve they Beat Alcren state
in their first game this, year and In, louisiana where
that school is. Located that triggered a huge, celebration and deservedly.
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So they hadn't won a football game since twenty twenty.
Two they came back from that by getting beat sixty
six nothing By minnesota in a game that wasn't. Complete
minnesota scored seven points in the second half and a
game that wasn't. COMPLETED i don't know how good The
bearcats are gonna. Be this is one of the youngest
teams in the country coming To Nippert. Stadium cincinnati should
win by nine.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Toimes they put up Sixty are they safe on that
home run turtle? Total so you're gonna get nine?
Speaker 7 (40:34):
More comes one seventeen games to go for those three
guys to combine for nine home?
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Runs, YEP i like The. Bearcats love.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
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It's Dan Horde. Dan, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Tony Austin. It's a beautiful day in the Natti and
I can't wait for two home games this weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You got to sweep over the weekend, Dan, with the
Bearcats knocking off Bowling Green, Bengals, go and beat the
Cleveland Browns. Let's discuss. Let's start, obviously with with the
Browns Bengals game. Everyone points at the offense and the
struggles we've seen the struggles early in the season. We
know how talented this roster is. And yes, you see
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seven yards and a half and that can certainly screw
you a little bit. But if you look at this
from the grand scheme of things, there's not a lot
to be concerned about about this offense. Correct.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Is anybody worried about the Bengals offense long term? Curiously?
I mean I don't think anybody is. I'm certainly not.
They scored fewer the points last year in Week one
than they did this year, and they wound up being
the sixth highest scoring team in the NFL. So I
think the offense is going to break out, and probably
break out soon. Look out, Jacksonville. It could happen this Sunday.
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That would not surprise me at all.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The difference of this year to play underpar offensively, to
play good on defense, but find a way to win
a game that maybe you shouldn't have won. How different
of a few does that create now from the locker
room to now going into this week of practice, Because
there is there's a lot to work on for any
team after Week one, But when you're able to do that,
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when you want to know, it makes it a lot
easier going forward.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I just want to go back to the twenty twenty
two season when they started slowly. In that year, they
did wind up in the AFC Championship game, but in
Week one they basically lost exactly how they won last week.
It was that game against the Steelers. Clark Harris got hurt.
They had to have Mitchell Wilcox snap money Mack has
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a paight, a game winning pat blocked in the last
ten second seconds when it looked like Burrow had pulled
off a miracle comeback. And then they had a field
goal try in overtime that was less than thirty yards
that they shanked left because the snap came back at like,
you know, four miles an hour instead of the normal
velocity would come back. So it's happened to them before.
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It's about time that another team lost in the exact
same fashion. And I don't care how it looked. They
got the win. They're going to get better and road
wins in the division are hard to come by, so
I don't care how it looked. I am not the
least bit upset about how they played. They won the
freaking game. Let's go win another.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
We all know how confident the Bengals offense is. But
I can't stop watching that video of the Bengals posted
of Burrow going through the locker room and the defensive
back saying, we got your back, We got your back.
How important is it for a young group that has
a lot of pressure on them to feel the confidence
that they feel after a game that they played so
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well in Cleveland going into the rest of the season,
because you know, they've been kind of beat up and
talked about quite a bit. How important is confidence for
a young group, especially that secondary.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Really really important, especially after what happened in the preseason,
Because we praised the defense for looking good during training camp,
and it did. We weren't making it up. You know,
there were days that the defense outperformed burrowing the offense
in other days where it's more or less a stalemate.
Then in the three seats preseason games, they were atrocious
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and everybody thought, oh, here we go again. It might
even be worse. So for them to come out with
Al Golden calling the game the way he intended to
call it, guys giving it full effort and play as
well as they did, I think that was great for
their confidence. And it begins with stopping the run. This
team has been atrocious at defending the run for the
past several years. To have a team keep running so
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twenty four carries for the Browns, it wasn't like they
abandoned it early in the game. Not to have a
single carry longer than five yards. Had averaged two yards
per carry in the game. That's winning football. So there
are things to tighten up in the secondary, but sixteen
points in two yards of carry is going to get
it done most of the time.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Couple levels and layers to this defense that I wanted
to highlight one. You know, Al Golden was a linebackers
coach here before going to become the defensive coordinator. I
looked at this position as kind of an unknown because
you bring in Demetrius Knight out of the draft, you
get Logan Wilson back, and in the first opportunity they
have in a real game to play together, Demetrius Knight
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solo tackles ten total. Logan Wilson had seven tackles. What
did you feel that that was the key to unlocking
what they were able to get from their linebackers, especially
a guy Demetrius Knight playing in his first NFL game Tony.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think he had six tackles on the Browns opening drive.
That's got to be an NFL record, right, most tackles
by a defensive player in his debut on an opening drive.
I can't imagine anybody's ever had more than six. I
thought he was great, and I thought that he looked
exactly like the guy that we had described moments after
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the Bengals drafted him. Two hundred and forty pounds, fast, downhill,
hard hitting. Maybe not the greatest coverage linebacker out there.
Eric Carter will probably get more and more playing time
and obvious passing situations. But if you're looking for a
guy that hits people and makes, you know, help set
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the tone on first down and second down, Demetrius Knight
is that guy, and I thought he was great.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's it's one thing to have great linebacker play, but
those linebackers also need to be able to play downhill
and play without having to shed blocks. And when your
front four is doing their job, it makes the linebacker's
job a lot easier. And I'm talking anywhere from BJ
Hill what Mike Pennell was able to do. TJ. Slayton,
who they went out and got Chris Jenkins. The list
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can go on and on. What from the front four
and again they made an emphasis to get better at
stopping the run. It just allows those linebackers to play
so much more free. What was your take on that
front four as a whole coming out a Week one?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I thought TJ Slayton was exactly what he was supposed
to be, a quick three hundred and forty pound guy
that's hard to block, hard to double team and help
shut down the run. He did that, plus showed a
little bit as a pass rusher, which was a pleasant surprise.
I thought Trey played the run well in Week one,
which was great to see. You know what have we
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said about Trey Hendrickson during the contract negotiations, elite pass rusher,
one of the best in the NFL, but not the
run stopper that Miles Garrett and Max Crosby are well.
Trade did a nice job against the run in Week
one and helped them get into obvious passing situations. Chris
Jenkins was solid. I thought DJ Hill was really good
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considering how little he did during training camp. Miles Murphy
was okay for the twenty two snaps that he was
in there, and Shamar Stewart looked excellent, so I thought
across the board, the defensive line looked really good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
As you shift your focus to Jacksonville and prepare for them,
what stands out about the Jags.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Plus rushing yards in Week one against Carolina and more
than six yards of carry, So here we go. The
Bengals defense looked great at stopping the run in Week one,
but now they're facing a team that was as good
as anybody in the NFL and their opener at running
the ball, so it's going to be a legit challenge.
Etn appeared to be as good as ever in Week one.
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He finished with one and fifty one hundred and forty
three rushing yards in that victory, nearly nine yards of carry.
I'm a Syracuse grad, so I had hopes that maybe
the Bengals would take Lequint Allen in the draft this year.
He went to Jacksonville in the seventh round instead. Really
good pass catcher out of the backfield. So I think
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the running game and the running backs in general are good,
and that's going to be a job one for the
Bengals this week.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How much can what Shamar Steward gives them allow al
Golm to unlock with this defense because he looks like
a guy to me. He showed the strength We've all
seen the clips of him against the Cleveland Browns and
the overall strength I've seen him taking on three blockers
to allow others to make a tackle. We know he's
got speed, we know there's athleticism, and I know he
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didn't flash from a box score, but I thought he
flashed just watching the game. And that's Game one. How
much can Al Golden use him in a way that
maybe they can't use all the other defensive ends where
they can move him inside, they can move them outside,
they can stand him up a little bit. What does
he give Al Golden.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's definitely the most versatile guy that they have up front.
I'm feeling good about my preseason hot take that he
would finish in the top five in the NFL as
a rookie in deflected passes. He had two in Week one,
only one counted, unfortunately because of a penalty on Orrin Burks.
I might have to update that prediction to he will
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lead the NFL in deflected passes as a rookie and
it will be double digits. He's got an uncanny knack
at getting his hands on passes, and part of that
is just, you know, the sheer physical freak aspect. His
wingspan is seven feet, he's six'. Five because of his,
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explosiveness he generally gets close to the quarterback even if
he doesn't hit. Him so there you. Go he will
leave THE nfl as a rookie into flect the glasses
landhard hot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Take you AND i had a chance to See Travis
hunter live in. Person what do you view from your
time watching him as his biggest? Strength is it in
the secondary or is it with The Jacksonville jaguars as
a wide.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Receiver, well they are using him as a wide. Receiver
so In week one he had a good. Game he
had six, catches didn't go for a ton of yards
thirty three, yards but he didn't get a ton of
snaps on. DEFENSE i think it was six snaps on
defense In week. One it's. Funny last year At colorado
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he had more than fourteen hundred, snaps more than three
hundred more than any other college. Player last week he
had thirty, nine so that would average out to less
than seven hundred snaps during the course of a seventeen game.
Season less than half of his workload last year At,
colorado So i'd expect that number to go, up but
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at least In week one they didn't use him a
ton ON.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Dp he led the team in targets In week. One
Brian Thomas, junior who is an all world type, receiver
only had one catch in the. Game This jacksonville, Offense,
DAN i feel like with a new, coach a new play,
Caller Trevor lawrence is kind of in that put up
or shut up type season and as you, mentioned they
were able to get the running game. Going it does
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make them a viable threat offensively going into a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Game and you've got to think That brian, Targets Brian
thomas is going to get targeted a budge On sunday
after getting one catch in week. One he had nearly
thirteen hundred receiving yards as a. Rookie and how ABOUT
lsu wide, Receivers so when you see, HIM i, mean
the list now is it's like The Mount rushmore of
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wide receivers. Period Jamar, Justin, jefferson elite Neighbors Brian, thomas they're,
Active Odell Beckham junior and some of the other guys
that were there in the. Past it's pretty. Good stop.
Bad Jarvis landry comes to. Mind it's Great Jarvis. Landry,
yeah throw him on the. List Brandon. Lafelle if you
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want to throw a Former bengal in. There there was
good News Patriots. Day so it's you, Know cincinnati tight
Ends ye AND lsu wide.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Receivers there you, go makes, sense makes. Sense what's the
one thing you want to see them improve on the
most from game one to game? Two obviously getting burrow
a little bit more comfortable The bengals in, hindsight we're
only able to run it for two yards of carry as,
Well what do you want to see most improve from
week one to week?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Two similar to what we just said About Brian, THOMAS
i want to see a lot more Of Jamar. Chase
Credit cleveland for doing a good job, of you, know
voting their coverages to him and finding ways to prevent
burrowed from hooking up with. Him but two catches for
twenty six yards is not what we expect From Jamar.
Chase and he doesn't have back to back unproductive games very.
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Often you can probably count on one hand the number
of times in HIS nfl career he's gone two games
in a row without having a pretty big. Game SO
i would Expect jamar to come out and have maybe
not double digit catches On, sunday but certainly more than,
five and if not more than one hundred yards close to.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
IT i have to ask with Our bearcats as. Well
WHILE i have a disappointing start to the, season they fought.
HARD i thought the defense played well Against, nebraska and
then you flip the switch To Bowling, Green. DAN i
thought it was such a unique game because it never
felt to me in the second half Like Eddie george
was trying to win the. Game it felt like they
were very. Content it was. Weird they were content taking their,
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time they were content getting a couple of, yards and
in lieu of, that you get beaten in time of
possession by a wide. Margin Bowling green runs more. Plays
how do you view the win Against Bowling green because
obviously there's a lot to improve, on but it just
never felt like a Normal saturday college football.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Game and what you were saying About Eddie, george they
got passed the fifty twice facing fourth and short and.
Punted that's nineteen seventies. Strategy That's Don shula With Bob
greasy and The dolphins way back When Chuck knowell with
The steelers and their great defense in the. Seventies that's
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not how teams do it. Now when you've got fourth
and short at the other team's forty one yard, line
you don't worry about twenty yards of field. Position you
try to keep the ball in. Score SO i thought
that that was kind of strange By Eddie. George my
overall view of the game last week was good first
second half of good first, half poor second, half twenty
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one to three at the. Half they kick the field
goal in the third quarter to make a twenty four to.
Three it looked like they were going to win by four.
Touchdowns Then Evan pryor fumbled Bowling green scored a touchdown
three players, later and suddenly that gave him a little confidence,
momentum and the team's kind of traded scores the rest
of the. Way SO i don't expect this week's game
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to be. Close Northwestern state over the past several years
has been one of the weakest teams in the. Country
they got crushed last week By, northwestern SO i think
it's going to be a laffer for The bearcats and
then after a bye, week it gets real with a
road game Of.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Kansas speaking of, confidence they didn't get much going in
the run, game but there was such an emphasis on
the passing. Game they Get Jeff cadwell involved unbelievable one handed.
Catch Joe royer had a seventy three yard, catch albeit
he was just targeted twice in the. Game Cyrus allen
a forty four yarder with two. Touchdowns how important going
forward is that explosive downfield play going to be for
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this offense to unlock it's full capability if they want
to be as balanced as they.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Can it's, big AND i think typically what does a
team do from week to? Week the first thing you'd
do is try to improve upon the things that you
did poorly the week. Before so In week, One cincinnati's
passing game was. Bad didn't even have seventy passing yards
in the, game and about half of what they had
came on their final. Drive so what do you do
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the next? Week you try to fix what was bad
the previous. Week they fixed. It three hundred and thirty
three passing, yards three. Touchdowns Jeff caldwell had one hundred
Plus Joe royer had one hundred. Plus so the passing
game was, there but the running game wasn't as, good
just just over one hundred yards Against Bowling. Green so
what do they do the next week to look to fix?
That SO i would expect the running game to be.
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Better the passing game might not be quite as explosive
as it was as a, result but it doesn't have to.
Be let's try to get both cooking for when they
needed Against kansas.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Two quick ones on the defensive side of the ball
before we let you go? One are we? Nationally Is
Jake golde being undervalued? NATIONALLY i mean he. Is he's
all over the. FIELD i know he was on the
preseason freak, list but he. WAS i mean it's hard
to be a one man wrecking crew in college. Football
he was every bit of. That he had fourteen. Tackles
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he flies all over the. Field he can, cover he
can get after the. Passer he's a short. Tackler he's,
UNDERVALUED i, think in my, opinion nationally.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Totally, agree maybe not AMONG nfl. SCOUTS i think the
buzz is growing For Jake. GOLDAY i think he's going
to be a starting linebacker in THE. Nfl but he's
tied for the national league in tacklesber. Game he's had
a sack in each of the first two. Games as you,
mentioned he's been good in. Coverage the dude as a total,
stud AND i think the reason why maybe people don't
know about him is that he's only been a linebacker for,
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basically you, know a year and a. Half he started
his college career as a defensive, end kind of a
defensive stand up rush end At Central, arkansas a. Bench
they moved him the linebacker towards the end of his time,
there and now obviously he's been a full time linebacker At,
cincinnati so he's still learning the. Position but he's two
hundred and forty, pounds runs twenty two miles an. HOUR i,
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mean the dude's a freak and it's showing up on the.
Field he's been fun to.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
WATCH i know they're not going to have Him, saturday
and then you get the help of the bye. Week
it's an understatement, already but how important is Getting Dante
corleone back to this team when they get Into big
twelve play. It we've talked about. It it looks like
a completely different defense up the. Middle, obviously When Dante
corleone is not able to.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Go it's. Critical they're not going to win a lot
Of big twelve games About Dante, corleone and hopefully he
doesn't have to miss Any the bye week. Helps the
hope is he'll be back in time For, kansas if
not that, game then the following week Against Diowa. STATE
i will say one thing though about his. Absence in
the short, term they've been playing With dante in the
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middle And jalen Hu hunt as a defensive end in
their three man defensive. LINE i Think jalen is capable
of moving inside and the drop off won't be as
big as it's, been you, know keeping him on the.
End SO i think that's probably what they would likely
to do in the short, term Have jalen playing the inside,
more have other guys play on the, outside AND i
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think that their defensive line can be. Solid not as
good as it is With dante out, there BUT i
think it can be solid With hunt playing in the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Middle where do you Rank Bowling green Linebacker Gideon lampren
from a middle name standpoint in all the years you've
been calling, football that would.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Be GIDEON Espn. Lampram you Know lamprin WHAT i don't
know BECAUSE i didn't, ask is if he pronounces IT
espn or if he pronounces IT. Espen, yes that's one
THING i should have asked and. Didn't but, yes on
his birth certificate it IS. ESPN i believe his dad
was sports. Fan that would seem to, correlate and he
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says he loves, it so good for. Him some kits
might be embarrassed by, that but he said he's very
proud of his middle, name and good for. Him he played.
Well Former dayton, guy they can't move to the mac
and he played.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well that's, right led the second on the team in
tackles On. Saturday, DAN i can't thank you enough for joining.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Us.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Man you're the absolute, best AND i look forward to
seeing you here in a couple of.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Days right back at, You, Ton thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
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enough to kick off our number. Three we'll be back
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top with a laser out of here to laught a
laser to left that broke a two to two. Tie
late in last night's, Game reds win at four to.
Two that's. Lost giants. Won reds three back in the Wild,
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Speaker 8 (23:39):
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And Paul, gunther two of the worst defensive minds in
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Speaker 2 (23:46):
Football what do we think about? THAT i just think
all that coming it? Up, yeah who would? Think who
would have saw that?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Coming? Shocker.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Incredible let me ask you a couple of. Questions, okay
and you tell. Me should people overreact to it or?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Not?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay reds are three games back in the Wild. Card
how should people? Feel they shouldn't feel any way at.
All don't, overreact don't get excited and get? Excited what
about people that now, say, well The bengals defense is.
Good i'm not saying they're, elite not saying they're. Great
but what about the people that after one week, say,
man The bengals defense is.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Good you should not be saying that. Either, okay don't don't.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Overreact, okay what about the people in The National Football
league that are, saying, man The cults are.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Good absolutely. Not, No, no you're.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Not you're not A Daniel jones.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Believer, no we're not doing this after week? One, Okay,
okay don't, Overreact that's WHAT i, say.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
THOUGHTS i would not overreact to The bengals. DEFENSE i
would definitely not overreact to the to The Cincinnati, reds
And i'm not yet overreacting to The Indianapolis. Colts, okay
do you overreact to The Pittsburgh steelers? Offense?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
NO i.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Don't this is kind of a bad game for me
BECAUSE i don't overreact to anything in week. One, okay
because it's week one and it doesn't really, matter all.
Right do you know in two thousand and, one The
bengals open their season with a home victory over The
New England. Patriots, Wow Corey dillon played, great killing clock
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Killing Corey dillon played. Great and you, know this was
not a good football, team The. Bengals they were six and,
ten but they Beat New england twenty three to seventeen that. Day,
okay you know What New england went on to do
won A Super. Bowl they won The Super bowl.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Yep so.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You, know does anybody when you think of the two
thousand and One New England, patriots does anybody, Say, ah
they lost that game to The bengals to start the.
Season but at the same what about the following week
when they lost to The New York jets ten to.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Three but there are things in place that people. Do
like a lot of people now after one week AND
i know the roster is, better are, saying, well The
packers are the team to beat in THE. Nfc, no
you still don't think, so don't do. That, no who's
THE nfc team to Beat? Philadelphia?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Still?
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Okay why should it be anyone? Different, Well packers had
such an impressive win against The. Lions, okay and the
and the and The eagles had to hang on to
beat The. Cowboys Cd ram handed drop the. Game maybe
The cowboys are better than we, thought and maybe The
lions are worse than We what about it's too early to,
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tell what about not enough?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Data how should we react to what The chargers did
to The? Chiefs more about what The chargers did impressive
or more about maybe what we discussed with The chiefs
of just not being as good this.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Year my thought, was maybe The chargers are gonna throw
it more THAN i thought they. Would the identity of
jim harball led football teams outside of cheating to, win
is running the. Football that's just what they're known to.
Do and they drafted o'mary In, hampton and they Got Najie,
harris and they've got a good offensive, line and you're
thinking ground and pound With Jimmy harbs and The, chargers,
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well they put the ball in the hands of their
quarterback to win the game over and over and over.
Again they Made Quintin johnston be a, threat which is
a very difficult. Task they made him. Good so my
thought process, is, oh maybe The chargers are more of
a threat through the air than through the. Ground, okay
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these are the things you opened the, space or you
create space for. Possibilities you don't say. Okay week one
hypothesis concludes this is what is fact or not FAUND
i have one more.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All, right week? One should we overreact to WHAT jj
McCarthy did in the second, Half, like IS jj McCarthy
a legitimate quarterback in THE. Nfl i'm not saying an elite.
Quarterback i'm not saying a guy that's gonna put the
team on his. Back IS jj McCarthy a good? QUARTERBACK
i don't excuse. ME i KNOW i TALKED jj McCarthy
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and all of a, sudden you're choked.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
UP i guess.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
GUTS i don't think he.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
IS i don't think he.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
IS i.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Do But kevin O'Connell is the best coach in THE.
NFL i just like can turn him into a.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Winner the way people were talking about how he was
in the locker room and what he was doing on
the sidelines and in the, huddle and then delivering like
that and watching that team in the locker.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
ROOM jj McCarthy since high, SCHOOL i believe is sixty
four and three as a starting. Quarterback, now obviously a
huge chunk of those have to be thrown away because it's, shooting,
sure but sixty four and three is a starting. Quarterback
the guy has experienced a lot of different ways to
win whether that's through getting the opponent's, signals or making
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a play with his, feet or making a big time,
throw or in A national championship game only throwing the
ball ten. Times he's found ways to. Win so you
couple that with the best coach in THE, nfl a
guy who seems to fit their system pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well there you. Go all, right there we have. It
what we're saying, here What austin's, saying don't. Overreact, Yeah
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Speaker 3 (29:29):
Fifteen WHO.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Guys, yeah we're all big baseball, fans, right and you,
know baseball has slid in the collective consciousness of sports
fans in this country WHERE i have, wondered, like does
baseball have something that would grab people's attention like Cal
ripkens streak in nineteen ninety, five Or maguire And sosa
in nineteen ninety, Eight like would a guy trying to
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hit four, hundred you, know would that captured people's imagination
a long hitting, streak like if somebody Challenged Pete rose
forty four The National Recorder Joe demaggio's fifty, six would
people be locked? In AND i Think i've stumbled upon the. Answer,
oh BECAUSE i don't know about. YOU i am captivated
by this race that is unfolding right, now where The
red's three leading home run hitters Lead Kyle schwarber now by.
(30:19):
One Whoa who's gonna end up with more? Homers Kyle,
schwarber who hit his fiftieth last, night or the combined
trio Of Ellie, Delacruz Spencer steer And Austin.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Hages, Well ellie hit another one this? Year sure doesn't
feel like, It so you?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Did?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He nice to see South stewart get more, Opportunities no
question that Guy Will benson who never.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Starts ellie hit a.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
BALL i thought for a, second Like ellie Or Will
benson like broke his. Head, yeah But ellie hit a
ball last night and it felt like he hit it
his And Peco park's a big. Park but he hit
a ball last night to dead center, field and it's
like that right now feels like about as hard as
he could hit.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It, yeah but.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
This is gonna it's gonna catch debate me, sure regardless
of what happens with the wildcard, chase was which The reds?
Are they're still. There they've got bounce backability, Now but
who's going to finish with more home? Runs the trio
Of red's leading home run hitters Or Kyle. Schwarber right,
now it's neck and neck fifty one.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
FIFTY i imagine this takes up at least an hour
of your program to what's.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Going to take up the next like two and a.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Half we got on, Life how do you go? Get
what do you do for the rest of your?
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Show you got to think LIKE mlb network is going
to be breaking into all four hitters at. Bats, yeah,
right this is going to be the sort of thing
people are going to be tracking all across the.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Country you're, right what else you got? Today Joe burrow's
going to talk at three. Fifteen at, Fifteen, well last
week we have a chart behind all. This we all
charted detailing how on time or late he. Is it's
kind of like The bengals getting the play call. In,
oh you want it to happen on, time but you
don't know we were.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Just talking about this off.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Air can someone ask him second drive of the, season
first play of, it they have to call a time.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Out not like after a three and out, either, right thirty? Minutes.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Right So Joe burrows in his sixth, season every game
he's played in the Nfl' Zach taylor's been the play,
caller the personnel is basically the. Same why is that
taking so?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Long WHAT i don't? Understand joe has now seen? Everything uh.
Huh If i'm the play, Caller i'm getting it in.
Quick and Then i'm gonna, Say, joe you go do
what you need to do with the line of, scrimmage
because that's, protection that's adjusting the, routes that's maybe changing
past to, run run to. Pass like there are countless.
Examples Aaron rodgers does, it probably maybe one of the
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best in THE nfl right now because he's been around so.
Long there's clips of. Him he's got fifteen seconds at
the line of. Scrimmage, yeah to fake a, snap try
to get the defense to, move adjust, things and then
you're sure of what the defense is. Doing now you
can find open receivers, instead even when they are getting
a snap Off burrow's having to clap because there's two
seconds on the, clock, right and he can't even go
through a normal.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Cadence they practice right like they went to, practice were. Doing,
Uh so we'll spend some time on.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
That Danny kanell is going to join us talk to
some College paul get his thoughts on the big game
Between cincinnati And Northwestern State.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Hi cincinnati should win this game by nine.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
TOUCHDOWNS i PUT i put fifty out, There, okay win
by at least.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
FIFTY i want to see three quarterbacks play On. Saturday,
YEAH i want to see all three dudes.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Go.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yep so we'll spend some time on.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
That our Guy sean Sayed stats And scheme, podcast because
WHAT i want to know from him is, like The
browns have great, corners, right but was there were there
things in that game that other teams can? Go, okay
maybe we don't have the specific personnel The browns, do
but we could apply some concepts to what we.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Have, yeah so that in so much. More Xavier's december
schedule for The Big east not. Great no home games
Against creighton And yukon while the students aren't. There so
that's a big deal in college athletics enormous whole, atmospheres
especially especially That Cintas. Center THAT'S i, mean that's a
tough opening slate in The Big.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
East do we know Who xavier's best player is going
to know this?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Year, like Does xavier? Know my guess is.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
NO I i Think Richard patino long term is gonna work.
OUT i am having a hard time finding anybody who
is that optimistic About xavier's team this.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Season, yeah we asked, earlier who comes up with who
determines the? Schedule is that The Big East conference as a? Whole,
well is there input from the schools at? All there's
input from the, schools there's input from THE tv. Partners
in The.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Big, east they have a couple of teams that SHARE
nba arenas and so you have to work around THE nba.
Schedule marquette's one of. Them Saint john's obviously is one of.
Them villanova has games that are played at The philadelphia
seventy six Ers, Arena so that's a.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Consideration but what gets me is how long this?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Takes?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Now, YEAH i mean WE'RE uc, fans no waiting Mid.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
September we have the non league.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Schedule we don't have the conference, schedule but, Yeah december
is gonna Be it's gonna be. Tough and then you,
consider Like Richard patino is gonna have to spend by
his own. ADMISSION i heard him say this on his
show last. Week the first six seven weeks of the,
season figuring out his team and then oh, boy here
we go without the students at The Centa. Center good
teams in The Big.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
East Jalen carter is not going to be suspended for
an additional game because he essentially didn't play in the
open or do you have any problem with?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
That how much SHOULD i ignore his? BACKGROUND i mean
that's a big part in. It how much SHOULD i
ignore his background before he was?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Drafted?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Right?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Like this strikes me as not a good?
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Guy, Correct so when not a good guy gets the
book thrown at, HIM i have a hard time feeling
sorry for. Him is there A is there a standardized?
Punishment see this is the problem WITH i think you
could apply this to all the, sports but there's no specific,
(35:45):
criteria and it always feels Like Roger goodell in THE
nfl are making it up as they go, along or
it would be unsurprising if something like that happened, again
if the suspension was like three, GAMES.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I just hope we don't have to like set a
precedent for people spitting on.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
People you AND i were doing an unplugged show AND
i said to, you in our broken social, construct where
we can't agree on, ANYTHING i feel like the one,
thing the one piece of common ground we all have
is if you spit on, somebody you deserve to have
your ass. Kicked what is remarkable to me is that
(36:20):
in AN nfl, game even early in THE nfl, game
in AN nfl, game one guy spit on the other
and nothing. Happened that is one of the most remarkable
THINGS i have ever. SEEN i mean like IT'S i
feel like that's the one thing we can all agree,
On like you do not spit on somebody.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Else anything happened in the college game where it happened,
Either no, PEOPLE.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I don't know That i'd spit on that. Part in,
FACT i wouldn't spit on that. Person, No austin not
gonna stay on the.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Air there is a certain love of people THAT i
just don't.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Reach THOUGH i don't, Know i've never it's never crossed
my mind to spit on.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Somebody, yeah it hadden't for me either until. Recently you
don't get AN Ap top twenty five, vote do?
Speaker 6 (37:08):
You i'm not in The Associated, Press so if you,
do should You lord help?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Us just have fun with? It should this girl be
getting a lot of the pushbacks she's? Getting, No these
votes this early in the season mean. Nothing THE Ap
top twenty five needs.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
Nothing the idea of we might as we might as
well do this since the three Sixty top twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Five but the idea of not Ranking South florida and
Moving florida up is. Bizarre it's. Bizarre but when you
cast Your heisman, vote do you do it just to have? Fun?
Speaker 7 (37:35):
NO i take it seriously BECAUSE i think IT'S i
think there's a certain amount of responsibility you have with.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
THAT i take.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
ITS i spend like from late to Late september to
WHEN i cast the vote in Early, december like every
week here are my Top?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Thine are we the only ones in this building that
Have heisman? VOTES i think.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
SO i think we're only two a handful of people
in the.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
City, Yeah rocky doesn't have.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
ONE i don't.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Know he.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
MAY i mean it's a he would he would deserve.
One when you are given a, vote you are allowed
to apply your own. Criteria people get mad at Like
hall Of fame, voters he should have his ballot taken. Away,
no because he put a ballot that you may disagree
with and doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
You he has earned that.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Vote it's he is allowed to apply or she allowed
to apply whatever criteria they, wish and the same. APPLIES
i disagree with her. LOGIC i disagree with what she
chose to, do but nor her vote shouldn't be. TAKEN
i like the, transparency like the. Rationale we don't always
get that in such.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Matters it's better than the person who never owned up
to not Putting Ken Griffy junior on their.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Ballot three, PEOPLE i, believe, right, yeah three. HOURS i
mean like idiots to, me like you.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Have the, vote explain yourself and you know chances are
A i'll, go, okay well that's kind of, stupid BUT
i appreciate you sharing your rationale AND i appreciate that
in This but THE ap top twenty five poll has
never meant. Less we actually have a committee that chooses
who makes the, playoff and there's more teams in it
than ever, before so THE ap top twenty five is totally, pointless.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
And we switched to that ranking In. November, yeah those
rankings go. Away never mattered. Less it used to matter a.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Lot it used to matter a whole lot when the
writers chose who the national champion. Was the, writers thankfully
don't have that power. Anymore so why do we care so?
Much let me finish this the way we started. It
give me the higher Total Hayes Steer ellie total home
runs by the end of the. Year, okay you see
points On. Saturday you see points On. Saturday.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Okay So Northwestern states kind of.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Had to rebuild their program from.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Scratch at the end of the twenty twenty three, season
they canceled their last seven. Games that a player gets
shot and, killed, unfortunately and so because of that they
canceled the rest of the. Season last year is starting from.
Scratch they went oh to. Twelve they Beat Alcren state
in their first game this, year and In, louisiana where
that school is. Located that triggered a huge, celebration and deservedly.
(40:09):
So they hadn't won a football game since twenty twenty.
Two they came back from that by getting beat sixty
six nothing By minnesota in a game that wasn't. Complete
minnesota scored seven points in the second half and a
game that wasn't. COMPLETED i don't know how good The
bearcats are gonna. Be this is one of the youngest
teams in the country coming To Nippert. Stadium cincinnati should
win by nine.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Toimes they put up Sixty are they safe on that
home run turtle? Total so you're gonna get nine?
Speaker 7 (40:34):
More comes one seventeen games to go for those three
guys to combine for nine home?
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Runs, YEP i like The. Bearcats love.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
It moulagger's next ON espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports. Station
have a great rest of Your.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
WEDNESDAY a, listeners this Is Attorney Blake. Maslin if you've
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