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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's on on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
To talkbacks. That's right, Cincy Shirts. Thanks to our friends
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of these talkbacks today, loaded the Friday edition, loaded, loaded,
loaded slate of talkbacks. So we are going to get
right into it and get right through them.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Man' sad news yesterday about Gary Burbank. What a great guy,
local legend. I come, man, so many good times, great
lass around his show. You're definitely gonna be missed, Gary Bengals.
I'm glad it went out and got rise there. Definitely
needed some help on that old line.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Maybe they can go get a safety now too. That said, everybody,
have a safe and happy Labor Day weekend, and always
remember it's South America.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'll say this, I didn't have the pleasure of listening
to Gary Birdbank, but yesterday I was working the three
to six show on WLW. I have never screened more
phone calls in my life on a show of people
reaching out with memories of Gary Burbank. He was obviously
very you know, very respected. People loved him and a
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true legend from the sound of it, and he will
be missed.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, the way in which people went and just flooded
different forms of media and radio and social media on
just stories or their appreciation for Gary Burbank says a
ton about who he was and the legacy he leaves.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Hey right in Okay boys anyways, oh one, it kind
of line conversion didn't quite make it. Guess money gave
out in Gartney. I found an outlet in a restroom
at a rest stop watched the game from there. Tony,
great job on the sidelines, excellent commentary.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I have no idea what you said, no idea whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Sophie is the greatest non throwing quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, last night was difficult at times to get with
the crowd noise, and I think the people and the
distance between the press box and the sideline. I had
someone asked me on social media if I was doing
my sideline reporting from Siberia. No, I was actually there
on the sideline, but yes, it did. It did feel
like at times.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
You know what makes me say?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
You know what makes me so sad that I could
conceide the eighty four election to Walter Mundale. Wow, it's
those man be bamby. You see Bearcat football heartbreaking into
game finishes. It really melted my jelly beans. It made
me more angry than a politician who just got impeached.
Oh and by the way, thanks for all the laughs.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Gary, there we go.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
Not happy with the Bearcats at all. And you know,
we come back, we make a game of it. We
make a great defensive stop, we get the ball back,
we're driving ten yards at the time, we're setting things up,
and then Scott saderfield ass clown calls a fifty to
fifty ball in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I'm going to take side on this. I don't think
it was the play call. You are You're calling that
play to take a shot if the look is there,
and if the look is there, you're trusting your quarterback
is going to throw that ball to the back pie
on of the end zone where it's either catch or
incomplete and nothing else. I don't blame the shot. I
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don't blame the call. Now, you could question other things
that happened during the course of the game, but in
that moment, Nebraska on their heels. I didn't mind the
play call. The execution was just poor.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, That was the first thing I said to you
when I got in this morning about that throw was
that that throw needs to be at the back pylon
where only your guy can catch it or it goes
out of bounds, and give yourself another chance and eventually
maybe settle for that field goal to send the game indade.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, it felt like just quarterback one oh one.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
So I called Cordell, Cordell, Cordell, Cordell and Cordel, and
they say, I cannot divorce my alma mater head football coach.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Can't be done. I'm looking for solutions, man. I don't
know if I have answers.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Hey, Tony stayed up last night Washington the.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
UC Bearcats awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I was really disappointed. Only sixty nine yards total passing
Brandon Sorosby running around for ninety six yard leading rusher
of the game. What are we doing, man? I thought
he was supposed to be slinging it to these new
tall wide receivers we had, hitting those tight ends. It's
not going to be able to score a lot of
points if you're running the ball big twelve. You gotta
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put up points, and you gotta put them up quick.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, it is. It's a lot that they've got to
improve on from from week one to week two. But
it's also true of this true, and this is not
just in Cincinnati. There's a lot of coaches around the
country that don't really know what they have until game one. Yeah,
because of how rosters are constructed. How much can you
jump from week one to week two, I think is
a big, big thing as well.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And you can only see so much when you're facing
your own players in the in the lead up to
a regular season game.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
In college, I do find it interesting that there are know,
like quote unquote like preseason games or scrimmages.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, especially with how the rosters aren't.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right, so that that kind of does kind of surprise me.
But you're right, I don't think you really figure out
what you got until you're at week two or week three.
Speaker 10 (06:12):
It's the Lord back from nash Vegas. Well, like while
I was gone, things got to settled with the Bengals.
Trey signed, we signed that.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I miss a lot and you miss a lot.
Speaker 10 (06:21):
Now I feel a lot better about the season than
I did before I left. So let's go Bengals, all right,
there we go?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All right?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Good Friday, Tony and Jim and Ross a bright, blessed day,
but not for our beloved Bearcats. Yeah that it came
down to one play, you know, and basically you floated
a fluttering duck towards the post with a high safety
and frankly, I could have intercepted that. If that would
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have been a Tony Pike frozen rope to the back shoulder,
It's a different outcome. Wake up, America. It's the last
time I do that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, yep, I think I think you're right. I think
it's a different outcome completely, Tony. You were here yesterday
with Drew know what I'm talking about. That interview yesterday
with Jeff Carr was insane.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Guys like him and Joe Daneman and others are Homer
fans before they are honest brokers in the media. And
it's exactly the type of people and fans that the
Castellini family counts on. The guy had the outlook of
a nine year old Reds fan. Also, Drew, the Packers
went from a eighteen to one or twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
This is why you at one today.
Speaker 11 (07:33):
Also, Austin might want to reconsider thinking whether or not
the Packers are a contender.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now, folks, that's why you own up to your mistakes,
because I had a feeling when I saw that somebody
in these talkbacks is going to be coming at me.
Yeah for that era. So that's why you get out
in front of it and own up to it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Folks, that move what happened, what Jeff Carr did wrong
to yesterday?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He was optimistic. I don't think. I don't think anybody
in Red's country wanted any thing to do with optimism
yesterday after the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
We're not allowed to be optimistic. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 11 (08:02):
Also last night that game was infuriating, sixty passing yards
and twenty five going to the final drive, Like, what
are we even doing? And I know I'm not breaking
any you know, breaking news here, but Nebraska is nothing special.
They're probably a lower bottom to mid you know, lower
bottom half to mid mid level Big Ten team, I mean,
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and you look like that against him.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
They will win games because their schedule is awful. They
do play I think Michigan at home, they do play
Penn State on the road. They miss everyone else in
the Big Ten. So they will win some games. But no,
I do not think that's a team that can win
anything substantial, agreed Tony.
Speaker 12 (08:48):
When they broke the huddle on that last pass and
Soresby got the line, do you think he had to
tell that that safety is going to be dropping back
there to pick that ball off.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think Nebraska did a really good job of showing
one high and then going to two high safeties. I
think they ran a slugo, which is a slant and
go with the wide receiver, and I think Soorsby legit
thought that the corner jumped and his guy was going
to be wide open, when in reality, the corner was
just playing aggressively to the flat like his role is
because he's got help over the top. I think it
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was possibly predetermined from Soorsby, and I think that was
the problem.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I went back and watched it after the fact, and
there is a you know, a bit of a slide
route on the left side of the screen that breaks
open for about an eight yard game and he could
have gotten out of bounds. So I'm with you. I
think Soresby got the look and he knew exactly where
he was going to go with the football before it
hit his hands.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Hmm, I agree.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Oh yeah, the vomble before halftime.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
That was a killer.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
But and the crowd noise was dafne Man, you can
you can tell through the TV like he said, I
mean Sorsby ran great.
Speaker 13 (09:58):
But good lord man.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You guy West Carmont can pass better than that.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Shout out to Gary Burbank.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Don't add to tell me, Kyle Man.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, this is the code to cold ringe couch. That
performance last night was prosthetic.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
We need to fire the coach. We need to fire
the assistant coaches. We need to fire the ad.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
We need to fire the basketball coach.
Speaker 14 (10:26):
We need to fire the baseball coach, soccer coach, doll coaches.
Speaker 15 (10:31):
Turn down the shake Place center.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That was pathetic.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Reburn the damn school, get rid of the whole city.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Man going through it this morning.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
There's a lot of people going through it today.
Speaker 16 (10:44):
Oh boy, good afternoon, gentlemen. I was just wondering, is
there's some kind of a rule that when you throw
a screen and it doesn't work, and then you throw
another screen, it doesn't work, and then after throwing multiple
screens and they don't really work, and the defense seems
to be all over him, when do you stop throwing screens?
Maybe fake the screen and go for the post.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 16 (11:08):
I just I don't know. I'm not scatterbrained enough. I
guess I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, it is in fact a thing that you can
stop running to play if it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's a that's a thing. Hey, Tony, this is Ryan.
Are you guys doing today?
Speaker 17 (11:29):
I agree that the caller earlier about Scott's splatter shield,
he's a joke, dude, he needs to go. But U
See's defense did look strong. They could have won that game,
probably should have. But anyway, have a good day, go Reds.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I agree with you on If that game is at Nippert,
I think they win. If that game is at Lucas
Oil Stadium, I think the Bearcats. Yeah, just settling for
a road game. I don't care how much money you
see got paid. Putting a home one of your home
games in that environment is crazy. It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I don't know, And I guess you could call it
just not your due diligence. I don't even know if
they realized when that happened it was going to be
like it was. Yeah, that's right, Like I legitimately wonder
if they could have thought it was going to be different.
Speaker 13 (12:20):
Right, repping the city out here and Sonny Tony couldn't
even catch up to work this morning, Tony, Man, what
happened to our offense last night? We got receivers that
can't stretched the field? Coach Sat, Man, what's your call him?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Man?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The running game is legit, gotta give it to him.
And the defense proved me wrong.
Speaker 13 (12:37):
What I saw last night was excellent, Yo, Bengals, pay attention.
If you can make stops, you can win games. If
you see just filling the bar, we would have had
a chance, but the defense gave offense's plenty of chances.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Your coach, Sat, that's see getting hot. We got ready
to kick you up out of here.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Man, Man, I do agree that the temperature on sadderfield
seat gotten exponentially hotter after last night.
Speaker 18 (12:58):
Sure, hey, guys, this is the common talkback matters.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Guys.
Speaker 18 (13:03):
Listen, this coach sour Kraut. He's terrible, He's deffuly terrible,
and things ain't gonna get no better. And he did
more talking about how well the other team was.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Than his own team.
Speaker 18 (13:18):
I mean, that press conference was a joke. Why don't
we just go get Tim Banks, he's a defensive coordinator
for Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think he would take the job.
Speaker 18 (13:27):
Get rid of this sour kraut guy.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Now now, Drew, We've already got folks throwing coaches names
in the ring. Yep, oh yeah, we're in this point already.
Oh boy, we.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Haven't even we technically have. We're not even finished with
week one.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Boy, oh boy, back again for a double up.
Speaker 13 (13:44):
Just just a little bit upset about my bear cast
last night. But real talk, they put on a good
show defense, kicking game wise and you know, running game
wise with that coaching. Uhh, I'm ready to get him
up out of there.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Real talk.
Speaker 13 (13:56):
We all is upset. Wes, you next, man, don't get
off the man. Finish over five hundred?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
All right?
Speaker 13 (14:03):
Man, who's challenging Z in the AFC? I'm drinking that
orange kool a. We the best in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Who wants to.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Smoke Packers and Bengals in Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Let's get it? Who they?
Speaker 14 (14:12):
Ma?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Wes Miller taking astray? Red's now just got to finish
over five hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, Wes Miller's got to be sitting over there like, man,
I really need to what I really need to get
the season going?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What a dark place we're in right now.
Speaker 14 (14:24):
Indeed, Boys, Craig and the Creek, one game in in
this season is already a lost cause. Oh my god,
Soresby being on national watch lists is the most laughable
thing I've ever heard of. Sadderfield is completely uninspiring. This
year and next year's recruiting classes featured zero four star recruits.
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We're not even attempting to get them. And I know
that recruiting class rankings are overrated, but when Sacramento State
is ahead of you, something's wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
One game in.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Is enough, it's bleak. Oh my god, boy, we really
you see really needs to be ble in green necks.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is this is just a dark, dark day, Tony.
Speaker 14 (15:08):
What's up?
Speaker 19 (15:08):
Happy Friday? Love the show, but man, if you want
to kill your show, just keep playing. Uh Scott Sanderfield's presser, Oh,
that's some of the worst radio we've we've heard for
a long time. I just I don't know how you
UC fans are gonna just I couldn't listen to that
all the time. Have a good weekend, Tony.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'll come to my guys defense here. He got in
at six point fifteen this morning, got about an hour
of sleep before he was woken up by his one
year old and rolled in here to work ready to roll.
So you know what, we needed that little eight minute
bringing for my guy to let him just kind of
relax and settle in. Well, what I'm just gonna defend
by Come on, take this out on me now right.
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We just had to get my guy a little bit
of a time out in the middle of the show
so we can keep this thing rolling.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Than you.
Speaker 20 (15:59):
I was there at the game. It sucked to lose
the way they did, but honestly, I felt the defense
played really well. Only I saw only a couple games
last week with some other Big twelve teams, and I
thought our defense looked the best of any team I saw.
They can keep that effort and the offense can be decent.
They can be in every Big twelve game they play. Plus,
on a positive gambling note, they covered and my bet
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was big enough to cover the money I dropped on
the tickets.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
WHOA, that is a play okay. I also benefited from
the Bearcats covering Lasson.
Speaker 15 (16:32):
That's hey, everybody, it's Jason down on de Hollow with
a public service announcement on Halla now paging salth Stewart
to great American ballpark. Now paging salth Stewart to a
great American ballpark. Castellini, sell the.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Team, thank you for your time.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's a tough day for just anyone's. Anyone's in the
You are.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
A coach, or a man, or an executive of a
pro or college team in this town today, anyone is
on the block. Anyone can get it.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Hey, Tony, Hey, Yadie Perry up here in Westchester.
Speaker 12 (17:13):
Last night's game was a huge disappointment for me, my kids,
A senior down.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
You see.
Speaker 12 (17:20):
All as I know is if that ball was in
the corner instead of behind him, we win. Secondly, every
game is going to be a shootout for the Bengals.
I say, you always bet you over take the underdog
in the points.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 21 (17:40):
Do either of you guys have an opinion on fantasy
football buyings? Do you think fifty is enough for a
grown man's league? Our commissioner seems to think not. I
don't really have an opinion. I would pay more if
everybody else wanted to. But do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Thank you? Three leagues, I think fifty is Two of
them are fifty and the others twenty five because it's
just more about pride in the in the family, right,
and it's less about what you can actually win. But
I think about what you can.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I think fifty is more than acceptable for a fantasy
football buy in.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I think fifty is fair.
Speaker 22 (18:18):
I totally agree Ton. I think the play call was good,
but the execution was off. If he leads that receiver
just another two yards or so, it takes him into
the end zone and it takes it out of reach
of that dB.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So yeah, I agree. One numbercent he floated. It's a
little too much air under it.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, all right, we got about four more here. Some
of these are going to be flowing in late. I'm
sorry we're way late here, folks, so just bear with
us here.
Speaker 20 (18:46):
Joe Joe.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Has anyone seen Joe Royer?
Speaker 10 (18:52):
I cannot find him anywhere you're supposed to be in
Missouri there was a football.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Game to be played.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
I don't know where he's at.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Has anyone seen him?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's a great question. I have not seen him, That's
a great question. And how does Royer only have three
catch yards? That made no sense?
Speaker 23 (19:11):
Positive run game, special teams look really good, defenses solid,
So some positive is there, but Royer only eleven yards.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Come on, that's tough.
Speaker 15 (19:23):
That's tough, great, Sharonville.
Speaker 16 (19:27):
I heard the announcers say on that last drive they
saw a hold by Nebraska on one of our wide outs.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, a definite hold. Did you see that? Yes? I
saw there was a lot last night. But I will
say this, I think overall there were three penalties called
on Nebraska, four on Cincinnati. I think both sides. I
think it was called pretty fairly. I think you could
have kind of had some ticki tac stuff there, but
I thought the officials let him play.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yep, here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Last one.
Speaker 24 (19:57):
Hey, Tony, got a question for you last night. Do you
see got called for a false start under two minutes
and then had a ten second runoff. Yeah, this happened
to us last year in a game. I believe it
was in Iowa State and it actually cost us the game.
Can you explain that rule?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, if it's under two minutes and the clock is
running and you're penalized, there will be a ten second
runoff unless you use a timeout you could then use
to stop that runoff. But unfortunately for the Bearcats, they
were out of timeouts, so there is a ten second runoff.
It essentially prevents teams from you know, winning and running
the play clock down and then having a false start
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penalty and then picking the play clock up again.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right, that's all we have time, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
We got to get a break. We are massively, massively late.
Tommy g is gonna join us at two, but I'm
gonna let Drew do whatever it needs to do with
the clock here and whenever we're back, we're back to
finish up our number two on the ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports station,