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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dan Horde joined Dave Lapham and me for Bengals Game
Plan tonight, starting at six on the official home of
the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is the Temple to be suppressed the microphone record your
message for us then, and don't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Keep the clean.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
A sprinkles, Oh wish that temple to be it's our
favorite and three sixty Austin, But you played at the
packs on your screen and trying not to sabotage it.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
All right, I don't think we've been sabotaging much anymore.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I don't sabotage. I just don't play stuff that doesn't
need to be played.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I think that's been around for a while. But nonetheless,
thanks to Sincy Shirts, we got a gift card to
give away, so we're clear there was never any sabotage.
There was a time where it felt like there was no,
but it it's been conned up.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
If if you call sabotaging doing what's best for you
and me and the show, well then yeah, I'm a saboteur.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Tony Austin, Jeff from Aswood.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
All right, Jeff, I'm.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Tired of all the talk about how bad the Bengals
were last week. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, humbling, humble, lean
is what they got. That's what they needed. We go
to Denver, we win this one.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We're three and one. Yeah, first place, first place or
at least a tie. Come on, now, go Bengals. Okay,
tired of all the talk? All right, all right, okay,
Jeff sorry man.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Was like many others, I was definitely sad to hear
about the news of Ridy Johnson passing away yesterday.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
One of my favorite Bengals, and just a sad deal.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Like you all said, let people have had mental health
issues know that you're here for them.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, check in on them.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't know that you cared. I don't know that
they're matter.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Let them know that you're here just to listen to
them and just reach out to those people.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
And there's nothing wrong with.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Saying that you need help.
Speaker 8 (02:05):
Folks, a man take care of yourselves. They take care
of each.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Other too, well said. Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 9 (02:12):
It's greg to not give the ball to Hunter Green,
your ace, who's been pitching lights out and who was
on regular rest. Has got to be Tito's dumbest move
over the year.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Mm hmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 10 (02:31):
Here's my hot take for the day. The Ryder Cup
is slowly but surely turning into the WWE. Too much
lead up, no talking, Just go out to the first
tea on Friday and start playing golf.
Speaker 11 (02:41):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't think so. I don't know if I love
it for golf. I'm a golf I'm a WWE hater.
I don't know if it's a bad thing the environment, man,
it's so good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hey, Tony the Hall of Famer in Austin, give me
more elmore. This is Mike del High and I've been
thinking a lot about this turf toot injury from Joe,
and I found the statistic to be alarming that I
found out about today. Eighty three percent of all turftow
injuries happened on artificial turf.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That's why it's called turftoe.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Can we not get grass? Can we not get grass
at Paul Grass?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Well, that is actually part of the reason why it's
called turf toe is because of artificial turf causing it
so much. The last time the Bengals tried to have
grass down there, it did not go well. It went
very poorly. I don't know why or what or how
they couldn't, especially with the advantage of technology in the
twenty years since then, that they couldn't do it again.
(03:42):
Most places now have turf because of the multi use
facilities and the concerts and the other things. The Bengals
rarely do other stuff. It's part of the point of
contention with Hamilton County over the summer. If you remember
at that stadium, I think I would love it if
it was a natural grass. I wish it was natural grass.
I don't know that we're gonna see that for the
(04:05):
rest of the life at Benkorese Stadium.
Speaker 12 (04:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (04:08):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and well, what's
wrong with the Bengals reads like a list of side
effects from weiser and no amount of tailand all will
help this Cooday headache go away. Perhaps the Reds can
provide the much needed remedy for our Bengal blues. Well,
now it's off to fencing class with Nancy on guard.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You take a lot of tylan alto no, I don't, okay,
sure you do.
Speaker 14 (04:38):
You know, after last night's Reds loss, I got me
thinking between that and the Bengals and Cincinnati with our proteins.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
It feels like US fans still with.
Speaker 14 (04:47):
A lot of opium and a lot of copium you
can sign which one goes with what team.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I think the Reds still have hope. Yeah, I think
the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It's copium people trying to justify Russell Wills and about
who the lusion?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tony?
Speaker 14 (05:02):
You complaining about parking, man, I mean, how long you
lived in Cincinnati, dude? Just buy a parking pass for
the East Garage. They're seventeen bucks.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 14 (05:16):
Pregame man, Let me tell you something online, and then
you pull up, you park, and you walk your happy
ass in. It's like a two minute.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Walk if it was He's right, if it were me,
I'd park and walk my happy ass from Fountain Square.
That's what I do. When you got a four or
five and a one year old, it becomes a little
bit different. How so there you got young legs?
Speaker 15 (05:40):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Or one is not even walking? Just can't take a
stroller in? Just kidding. Kids are tired. Blame it on
the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
They're lagging behind. Blame it on the kids. So the
other night, was it Friday night? I go to the
game and I typically park a Fountain Square, just because
it's the Chief and the walk is not hard. But
when you time it up correctly, you can hop on
the connector and come right down to the bench. Oh
so that's what I did. Hop on the connector and
(06:11):
it goes one block south and stops. Oh, and this
thing's packed full of people going to the Reds game,
and full of October Fest people too, wearing all their stuff.
And the driver gets on there makes an announcement, I
have a flashing red light. I cannot move until my
supervisor gets here. I need everyone to leave the trail
(06:35):
somewhere in the middle of the street. The flood out
of this connector. We went one block, you got to go.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Yeah, it's the Lord. On a Wednesday, I got another
start bench cut for it. Quarterbacks. You think we should
sign pluss Co, Jameis Winston, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
If money were not an option, I'd start Cousins. Yeah,
I'd sit Russ, I'd cut James. I guess I agree
with that.
Speaker 11 (07:03):
What's up Feather's move from out healthy Just sitting here
thinking about the Bengals in their current state. The state
is that they haven't improved since their Super Bowl year,
they've actually gotten worse. They've lost depth and a lot
of key defensive players. So I think the thing is
(07:24):
all the draft picks that they missed on have come
home to roost.
Speaker 16 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean that's certainly helped. That certainly hurts you.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean it's something we've talked about a lot.
They got old fast on defense and the young guys
just weren't there to supplement it.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I think that's one of the biggest issues.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I think often about the got the ball back trailing
chance to win the game in the AFC Championship game
in January of twenty three and they had to punt. Yeah,
that one. I think we give them too much of
a pass on it. That one hurt.
Speaker 17 (08:05):
Hey, Tony and Austin. I was in the game last
night too, and I was I was pretty impressed with
the crowd. Uh it was it was late coming in.
I didn't have any problem because I got there early.
But but man, what a downer when they hit them
three straight endings of ending inning double plays, especially that
last one at the end.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (08:27):
I don't know, Maybe they can get it together. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We need a miracle.
Speaker 17 (08:31):
Go Ridge, go Blue and who did.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Go what ken? He said? Go blue? Better be big Blue,
go big Blue? And gay Let's go Cubs go yeah,
Go Cubs go Yeah.
Speaker 18 (08:41):
What a rough night in reds Land. Do you think
they're gonna win plugging Diamondbacks Mad's come back from huge deficits.
I don't think the Tigers or my Astros are ever
gonna win again. The Guardians have been unbelievable. Boy, the Bengals,
it's hard to envision than winning Monday Night. I hope
(09:04):
this offensive line can do something Monday night.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 11 (09:09):
Man.
Speaker 14 (09:10):
Listening to how condescending Austin is towards Tony's opinions is
out ridiculous. Man, it's so hard to listen to Austin.
Oh no, Tony Freak played in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Dude, I think he didn't play, man, unbelievable. You didn't play.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So just because Tony played, we should accept his opinions
as truth.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I think everyone's opinion matters. I think everyone is.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think it's good radio than when I push back
on their opinions, gets their opinions. I'm just playing a
little devil's advocate. Sometimes I agree with Tony. Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I think Tito did a poor job of forcing
the issue last night, giving the statistics on the Pirates
catcher throwing runners out. This team's not good enough offensively
to sit back and wait. They have to force the issue,
especially if it's there for the taking. So hopefully tonight'll
be a different story.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's a good point.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Red's got runners on and what the fourth, fifth, sixth,
seventh to eighth, the ninth.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I think it's hard to like. I get the defensive mentality,
but when you go down early in the game and
you're so deficient offensively, I think you need to go
to those changes quicker. By the way, yes, real quick.
I didn't realize. The Guardians, I don't want to talk
about it. And the Tigers, it was a fifteen and
a half game lead on July eighth, Yeah, twelve and
(10:27):
a half on August twenty fifth. Yeah, that's unbelievable. Wow, awful.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And they might play each other in the playoffs first round.
They got to get there first.
Speaker 16 (10:37):
Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond, listen, as far as
the Bengals go, we have the two biggest narcissists in
the world that are the faces of the organization in
Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin. They've never been wrong in
their lives, just ask them. And this organization has always
been reactive, not proactive. They're not going to sign a back.
(11:00):
They've got four of them. So anyway, Uh, if you
fire Zach Crue, you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Exactly where are you gonna go?
Speaker 19 (11:09):
I believe Zach Taylor's the problem. He's the common denominator.
When Browning had success in the past, it was with
Brian Callahan calling the plays, and Burrow was dragged and
carried this team to all his success under Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
And if Zach Taylor.
Speaker 19 (11:25):
Doesn't want to give up to play calling, then he
should leave. And I would like to see John Gruden
come in as the new head coach. Oh, Derek Carr
even selling Dan Patrick he was successful.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Oh well. First of all, Brian Callahan never called the place.
Zach Taylor always called the place. Second of all, I
don't know that I didn't vote the name of Brian Callahan.
Right now things aren't going great. Third of all, I
think you're it's a fair point.
Speaker 15 (11:51):
This is DJ Tony listen to Ottie. Yeah, I am
all all four not standing Pat. But bringing in just
an old quarterback who's gonna fall down when the line collapses,
it's not going to fix anything. Yeah, if you can
find a running quarterback or some of them will roll
out that, I'm good with that. But this team is
too broken. If that one change was the whole offensive line,
(12:14):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, I'm not listening to Austin. He didn't play football.
Not true. Did you see my post last night? The
tape job on the left hand?
Speaker 8 (12:25):
It's Chris go all right.
Speaker 20 (12:27):
I know we can't hold on to the twenty twenty
two Super Bowl, but I was just wondering, like, after
we win that Super Bowl, if we win that Super Bowl,
do we build a statue of Jamar Chase and Joe
Burrow in Cincinnati?
Speaker 8 (12:44):
God bless Probably.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I don't know that the Bengals would build it, the
city would fund. I don't know that there's gonna be
any statue until long after current members are gone.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You think Hamilton County would have to get together and
fund it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think there would have to be a fan fund statue.
There should be three statues. There should be everybody who's
Pro Football Hall of Famer, so Ken Riley Anthony Munio's
Paul Brown. Okay, after that, I don't know who would
be the most deserving of a.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Of a statue? Who do you? Does anybody come to mind?
I don't know. I don't know the Hall of famers,
Like you said, for sure, Chad, it would be difficult
to say no to yeah, because statues are so much
too about just the fans and the fans that embrace them.
And who better than Chad? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (13:36):
So has Zach Taylor explored all options to this point,
changing the scheme, changing the plays. Do you remember when
they played the Colts? I think it was a couple
of years ago. I can't remember if it was Mixing
or Brown. They torched the Colts just running a screen
because I don't think they could run the ball in either.
So I'd like to see him try that.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm sure what.
Speaker 12 (13:57):
Else do we have to lose? This is gonna get bad,
real real bad. Yeah, Glad he brings this up. I
was listening to Paul with Moe yesterday. You know that
play where the Bengals had a undercenter play action screen
to chase.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Brown and he took it to the house. He had
like twenty one miles per hour on that. Do you
know how many under center play action screens to Chase
Brown the Bengals have run since that day in late
twenty twenty three too zero. Oh they've run one from
Pistol and it got twelve yards. I feel like so
twice in those two years.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I feel like the most I hear from people, they
talk about the lack of screens. Yeah, run more screens.
I don't know why they don't.
Speaker 21 (14:44):
After the worst case scenario last night, is it too
much to ask for? Maybe like a rain delay happening
after the first inning. That way schemes is pulled and
then May Hunter Green is available for Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't hate it, but my fear would be Brent
Suiter pitches tonight.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, oh gosh, so get through the first rain pours
down fifty minute delay? You can't roll skins back out
like a two hour and forty minute though, Okay, yeah, okay,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Okay, Hey, guys, I mean if Chase Burns can restart
the Bristol game, why can't Hutter restart a game tonight?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's true? Hey, guys, how you going listen?
Speaker 8 (15:32):
What up?
Speaker 22 (15:32):
This season's over? Winston ain't gonna help. Wilson ain't gonna help.
You're not gonna win it all with those guys. They're
just not gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Joe can come.
Speaker 22 (15:41):
This season needs to be used as a rebuild. And
here's how you rebuild. Because your strategy didn't work. Your
trade tea, your trade tray. You get number ones for
both of them. You have three number ones next year
and a ton of cap room. You'll be contend as
instantly next year when Joe comes back.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Hoo day. Okay, what if you get to the playoffs
and Joe comes back?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
You know you guys, I'm like old buddy from Castaway
Tom Hanks, just crying about Wilson all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Wilson, That's what I'm gonna start turning into.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
If Zack is fired the next few weeks, who on
the staff do you think would take over as interim.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Coach Darren Simmons Either be Darren Simmons or Al Golden.
I would assume just because of their head coaching experience.
Golden of course in college. Darren Simmons has been here
for one hundred and fifteen years.
Speaker 22 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Maybe Dan Pitcher, but I would doubt it.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Good afternoon, gentlemen, seems to me that we've had three
offensive line coaches under this lustrious head coach of ours,
and they seem to keep getting the same kind of results,
and we keep complaining about the offensive line coaches and
the offensive line. Oh last year I was told was
probably the personnel. Our personnel was better than what he
dealt with in New England. It'll be better here. I'm
(16:54):
starting to wonder is it the scheme of the head
coach of his offensive ideas?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I mean, I mean, could it be Paul schemes?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
He's leaving a talkback that asking about what has been
the number one topic on this show for the last
three days.
Speaker 23 (17:08):
Yeah, I have no idea what Francona is doing not
starting hundred green last night, like like it's been said,
if you're starting.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Last night, then you had him available for the last
game of the year if.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
You need it.
Speaker 24 (17:23):
If you don't and you got to you know, a
game lead because it's a tie breaker, then you don't pitch.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean, you still got hm bailed.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
For game one in the playoffs.
Speaker 24 (17:30):
But if you if you're trying to save him for
game one, you might not get to the playoffs. It
makes no sense. It's like he's been infected with this
disease that this franchise has.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And my thought last night was everyone said, if you
start him last night, he's available for one sixty two,
that is, if you needed him in one sixty two.
If not, then he has a couple extra days rest
before the playoffs. But to just hull home throw Brady
and Brady Singer's been really good and he had won
bad ending two point one bet ending last night. I
(18:01):
get that as well. Listen into July. It's just anyway, Sair.
Speaker 16 (18:12):
That coaching carousel is a racking, and when the job
openings are a racking, yeah, coach sata fansel a knacking.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I'm telling you boys, he's not here.
Speaker 14 (18:24):
We're gonna get rid of him to take one of
these big time jobs.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
Somebody else will and he'll sneak his way into a
mid major guarantee.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Bah, thank you Brett.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Hey, guys, quick question for you.
Speaker 25 (18:38):
Anybody who's watched MacLean obviously knows he struggled all season.
But one thing I noticed is that the guy consistently
struggles to hit breaking balls away, and he's a shorter
player with shorter arms. I just been frustrated as to
why he doesn't make any adjustments, either moving closer to
the plate or helping the box to try to hit
that pitch. We've seen the same swing and approach the
(19:01):
entire season.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Isn't that a tape in on the hitting coach?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Chris Laka?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yep, good question, ton Austin Balling ain't easy.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yeah, the mirror mortals are taking over.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Great American ballparks.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Probably gonna go bother Austin in.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
The bow tie bar. I don't know, get into some trouble.
I might wear a full red uniform.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Did you see our guy Balling was in full uniform
a couple of weeks?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yes, I did, and I respect the heck of it.
I also saw that he kind of gave up on
the season on Twitter, Yeah, which I respect. I did too,
and I'm surprised he's now going to show his face again.
I did too, But he is. He's just a mere
mortal falling. I'm not going to be there tonight, so
have a couple for me. He's just a mortal angle talk.
Speaker 24 (19:44):
I'm tired of all the real listic people out there
being honest. I need you guys to lie about this
Burns team.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No what ner fault.
Speaker 24 (19:55):
They lost forty eight to ten the Carson Wentz No
Tar World US talk man, even though they lost third
quarterback for the third time in six seasons and they
ain't got a shot in hell.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't want you guys talking about him like that.
Dang tough times man. Alright, we're done. It's tough times.
We got a football in the NATI coming up. Yeah,
we do. Yeah, let's get pumped about the football in
the NATI next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Thanks to Cinti shirts,
Dan Horde joined Dave Lapham and me for Bengals Game
Plan tonight, starting at six on the official home of
the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is the Temple to be suppressed the microphone record your
message for us then, and don't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Keep the clean.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
A sprinkles, Oh wish that temple to be it's our
favorite and three sixty Austin, But you played at the
packs on your screen and trying not to sabotage it.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
All right, I don't think we've been sabotaging much anymore.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I don't sabotage. I just don't play stuff that doesn't
need to be played.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I think that's been around for a while. But nonetheless,
thanks to Sincy Shirts, we got a gift card to
give away, so we're clear there was never any sabotage.
There was a time where it felt like there was no,
but it it's been conned up.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
If if you call sabotaging doing what's best for you
and me and the show, well then yeah, I'm a saboteur.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Tony Austin, Jeff from Aswood.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
All right, Jeff, I'm.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Tired of all the talk about how bad the Bengals
were last week. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, humbling, humble, lean
is what they got. That's what they needed. We go
to Denver, we win this one.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We're three and one. Yeah, first place, first place or
at least a tie. Come on, now, go Bengals. Okay,
tired of all the talk? All right, all right, okay,
Jeff sorry man.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Was like many others, I was definitely sad to hear
about the news of Ridy Johnson passing away yesterday.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
One of my favorite Bengals, and just a sad deal.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Like you all said, let people have had mental health
issues know that you're here for them.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, check in on them.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't know that you cared. I don't know that
they're matter.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Let them know that you're here just to listen to
them and just reach out to those people.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
And there's nothing wrong with.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Saying that you need help.
Speaker 8 (02:05):
Folks, a man take care of yourselves. They take care
of each.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Other too, well said. Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 9 (02:12):
It's greg to not give the ball to Hunter Green,
your ace, who's been pitching lights out and who was
on regular rest. Has got to be Tito's dumbest move
over the year.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Mm hmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 10 (02:31):
Here's my hot take for the day. The Ryder Cup
is slowly but surely turning into the WWE. Too much
lead up, no talking, Just go out to the first
tea on Friday and start playing golf.
Speaker 11 (02:41):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I don't think so. I don't know if I love
it for golf. I'm a golf I'm a WWE hater.
I don't know if it's a bad thing the environment, man,
it's so good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hey, Tony the Hall of Famer in Austin, give me
more elmore. This is Mike del High and I've been
thinking a lot about this turf toot injury from Joe,
and I found the statistic to be alarming that I
found out about today. Eighty three percent of all turftow
injuries happened on artificial turf.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That's why it's called turftoe.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Can we not get grass? Can we not get grass
at Paul Grass?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Well, that is actually part of the reason why it's
called turf toe is because of artificial turf causing it
so much. The last time the Bengals tried to have
grass down there, it did not go well. It went
very poorly. I don't know why or what or how
they couldn't, especially with the advantage of technology in the
twenty years since then, that they couldn't do it again.
(03:42):
Most places now have turf because of the multi use
facilities and the concerts and the other things. The Bengals
rarely do other stuff. It's part of the point of
contention with Hamilton County over the summer. If you remember
at that stadium, I think I would love it if
it was a natural grass. I wish it was natural grass.
I don't know that we're gonna see that for the
(04:05):
rest of the life at Benkorese Stadium.
Speaker 12 (04:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (04:08):
Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and well, what's
wrong with the Bengals reads like a list of side
effects from weiser and no amount of tailand all will
help this Cooday headache go away. Perhaps the Reds can
provide the much needed remedy for our Bengal blues. Well,
now it's off to fencing class with Nancy on guard.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You take a lot of tylan alto no, I don't, okay,
sure you do.
Speaker 14 (04:38):
You know, after last night's Reds loss, I got me
thinking between that and the Bengals and Cincinnati with our proteins.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
It feels like US fans still with.
Speaker 14 (04:47):
A lot of opium and a lot of copium you
can sign which one goes with what team.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I think the Reds still have hope. Yeah, I think
the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It's copium people trying to justify Russell Wills and about
who the lusion?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tony?
Speaker 14 (05:02):
You complaining about parking, man, I mean, how long you
lived in Cincinnati, dude? Just buy a parking pass for
the East Garage. They're seventeen bucks.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 14 (05:16):
Pregame man, Let me tell you something online, and then
you pull up, you park, and you walk your happy
ass in. It's like a two minute.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Walk if it was He's right, if it were me,
I'd park and walk my happy ass from Fountain Square.
That's what I do. When you got a four or
five and a one year old, it becomes a little
bit different. How so there you got young legs?
Speaker 15 (05:40):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Or one is not even walking? Just can't take a
stroller in? Just kidding. Kids are tired. Blame it on
the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
They're lagging behind. Blame it on the kids. So the
other night, was it Friday night? I go to the
game and I typically park a Fountain Square, just because
it's the Chief and the walk is not hard. But
when you time it up correctly, you can hop on
the connector and come right down to the bench. Oh
so that's what I did. Hop on the connector and
(06:11):
it goes one block south and stops. Oh, and this
thing's packed full of people going to the Reds game,
and full of October Fest people too, wearing all their stuff.
And the driver gets on there makes an announcement, I
have a flashing red light. I cannot move until my
supervisor gets here. I need everyone to leave the trail
(06:35):
somewhere in the middle of the street. The flood out
of this connector. We went one block, you got to go.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Yeah, it's the Lord. On a Wednesday, I got another
start bench cut for it. Quarterbacks. You think we should
sign pluss Co, Jameis Winston, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
If money were not an option, I'd start Cousins. Yeah,
I'd sit Russ, I'd cut James. I guess I agree
with that.
Speaker 11 (07:03):
What's up Feather's move from out healthy Just sitting here
thinking about the Bengals in their current state. The state
is that they haven't improved since their Super Bowl year,
they've actually gotten worse. They've lost depth and a lot
of key defensive players. So I think the thing is
(07:24):
all the draft picks that they missed on have come
home to roost.
Speaker 16 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean that's certainly helped. That certainly hurts you.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean it's something we've talked about a lot.
They got old fast on defense and the young guys
just weren't there to supplement it.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I think that's one of the biggest issues.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I think often about the got the ball back trailing
chance to win the game in the AFC Championship game
in January of twenty three and they had to punt. Yeah,
that one. I think we give them too much of
a pass on it. That one hurt.
Speaker 17 (08:05):
Hey, Tony and Austin. I was in the game last
night too, and I was I was pretty impressed with
the crowd. Uh it was it was late coming in.
I didn't have any problem because I got there early.
But but man, what a downer when they hit them
three straight endings of ending inning double plays, especially that
last one at the end.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (08:27):
I don't know, Maybe they can get it together. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We need a miracle.
Speaker 17 (08:31):
Go Ridge, go Blue and who did.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Go what ken? He said? Go blue? Better be big Blue,
go big Blue? And gay Let's go Cubs go yeah,
Go Cubs go Yeah.
Speaker 18 (08:41):
What a rough night in reds Land. Do you think
they're gonna win plugging Diamondbacks Mad's come back from huge deficits.
I don't think the Tigers or my Astros are ever
gonna win again. The Guardians have been unbelievable. Boy, the Bengals,
it's hard to envision than winning Monday Night. I hope
(09:04):
this offensive line can do something Monday night.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 11 (09:09):
Man.
Speaker 14 (09:10):
Listening to how condescending Austin is towards Tony's opinions is
out ridiculous. Man, it's so hard to listen to Austin.
Oh no, Tony Freak played in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Dude, I think he didn't play, man, unbelievable. You didn't play.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So just because Tony played, we should accept his opinions
as truth.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I think everyone's opinion matters. I think everyone is.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think it's good radio than when I push back
on their opinions, gets their opinions. I'm just playing a
little devil's advocate. Sometimes I agree with Tony. Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I think Tito did a poor job of forcing
the issue last night, giving the statistics on the Pirates
catcher throwing runners out. This team's not good enough offensively
to sit back and wait. They have to force the issue,
especially if it's there for the taking. So hopefully tonight'll
be a different story.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's a good point.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Red's got runners on and what the fourth, fifth, sixth,
seventh to eighth, the ninth.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I think it's hard to like. I get the defensive mentality,
but when you go down early in the game and
you're so deficient offensively, I think you need to go
to those changes quicker. By the way, yes, real quick.
I didn't realize. The Guardians, I don't want to talk
about it. And the Tigers, it was a fifteen and
a half game lead on July eighth, Yeah, twelve and
(10:27):
a half on August twenty fifth. Yeah, that's unbelievable. Wow, awful.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And they might play each other in the playoffs first round.
They got to get there first.
Speaker 16 (10:37):
Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond, listen, as far as
the Bengals go, we have the two biggest narcissists in
the world that are the faces of the organization in
Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin. They've never been wrong in
their lives, just ask them. And this organization has always
been reactive, not proactive. They're not going to sign a back.
(11:00):
They've got four of them. So anyway, Uh, if you
fire Zach Crue, you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Exactly where are you gonna go?
Speaker 19 (11:09):
I believe Zach Taylor's the problem. He's the common denominator.
When Browning had success in the past, it was with
Brian Callahan calling the plays, and Burrow was dragged and
carried this team to all his success under Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
And if Zach Taylor.
Speaker 19 (11:25):
Doesn't want to give up to play calling, then he
should leave. And I would like to see John Gruden
come in as the new head coach. Oh, Derek Carr
even selling Dan Patrick he was successful.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Oh well. First of all, Brian Callahan never called the place.
Zach Taylor always called the place. Second of all, I
don't know that I didn't vote the name of Brian Callahan.
Right now things aren't going great. Third of all, I
think you're it's a fair point.
Speaker 15 (11:51):
This is DJ Tony listen to Ottie. Yeah, I am
all all four not standing Pat. But bringing in just
an old quarterback who's gonna fall down when the line collapses,
it's not going to fix anything. Yeah, if you can
find a running quarterback or some of them will roll
out that, I'm good with that. But this team is
too broken. If that one change was the whole offensive line,
(12:14):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, I'm not listening to Austin. He didn't play football.
Not true. Did you see my post last night? The
tape job on the left hand?
Speaker 8 (12:25):
It's Chris go all right.
Speaker 20 (12:27):
I know we can't hold on to the twenty twenty
two Super Bowl, but I was just wondering, like, after
we win that Super Bowl, if we win that Super Bowl,
do we build a statue of Jamar Chase and Joe
Burrow in Cincinnati?
Speaker 8 (12:44):
God bless Probably.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I don't know that the Bengals would build it, the
city would fund. I don't know that there's gonna be
any statue until long after current members are gone.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
You think Hamilton County would have to get together and
fund it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think there would have to be a fan fund statue.
There should be three statues. There should be everybody who's
Pro Football Hall of Famer, so Ken Riley Anthony Munio's
Paul Brown. Okay, after that, I don't know who would
be the most deserving of a.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Of a statue? Who do you? Does anybody come to mind?
I don't know. I don't know the Hall of famers,
Like you said, for sure, Chad, it would be difficult
to say no to yeah, because statues are so much
too about just the fans and the fans that embrace them.
And who better than Chad? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (13:36):
So has Zach Taylor explored all options to this point,
changing the scheme, changing the plays. Do you remember when
they played the Colts? I think it was a couple
of years ago. I can't remember if it was Mixing
or Brown. They torched the Colts just running a screen
because I don't think they could run the ball in either.
So I'd like to see him try that.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm sure what.
Speaker 12 (13:57):
Else do we have to lose? This is gonna get bad,
real real bad. Yeah, Glad he brings this up. I
was listening to Paul with Moe yesterday. You know that
play where the Bengals had a undercenter play action screen
to chase.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Brown and he took it to the house. He had
like twenty one miles per hour on that. Do you
know how many under center play action screens to Chase
Brown the Bengals have run since that day in late
twenty twenty three too zero. Oh they've run one from
Pistol and it got twelve yards. I feel like so
twice in those two years.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I feel like the most I hear from people, they
talk about the lack of screens. Yeah, run more screens.
I don't know why they don't.
Speaker 21 (14:44):
After the worst case scenario last night, is it too
much to ask for? Maybe like a rain delay happening
after the first inning. That way schemes is pulled and
then May Hunter Green is available for Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't hate it, but my fear would be Brent
Suiter pitches tonight.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, oh gosh, so get through the first rain pours
down fifty minute delay? You can't roll skins back out
like a two hour and forty minute though, Okay, yeah, okay,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Okay, Hey, guys, I mean if Chase Burns can restart
the Bristol game, why can't Hutter restart a game tonight?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's true? Hey, guys, how you going listen?
Speaker 8 (15:32):
What up?
Speaker 22 (15:32):
This season's over? Winston ain't gonna help. Wilson ain't gonna help.
You're not gonna win it all with those guys. They're
just not gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Joe can come.
Speaker 22 (15:41):
This season needs to be used as a rebuild. And
here's how you rebuild. Because your strategy didn't work. Your
trade tea, your trade tray. You get number ones for
both of them. You have three number ones next year
and a ton of cap room. You'll be contend as
instantly next year when Joe comes back.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Hoo day. Okay, what if you get to the playoffs
and Joe comes back?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
You know you guys, I'm like old buddy from Castaway
Tom Hanks, just crying about Wilson all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Wilson, That's what I'm gonna start turning into.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
If Zack is fired the next few weeks, who on
the staff do you think would take over as interim.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Coach Darren Simmons Either be Darren Simmons or Al Golden.
I would assume just because of their head coaching experience.
Golden of course in college. Darren Simmons has been here
for one hundred and fifteen years.
Speaker 22 (16:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Maybe Dan Pitcher, but I would doubt it.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Good afternoon, gentlemen, seems to me that we've had three
offensive line coaches under this lustrious head coach of ours,
and they seem to keep getting the same kind of results,
and we keep complaining about the offensive line coaches and
the offensive line. Oh last year I was told was
probably the personnel. Our personnel was better than what he
dealt with in New England. It'll be better here. I'm
(16:54):
starting to wonder is it the scheme of the head
coach of his offensive ideas?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I mean, I mean, could it be Paul schemes?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
He's leaving a talkback that asking about what has been
the number one topic on this show for the last
three days.
Speaker 23 (17:08):
Yeah, I have no idea what Francona is doing not
starting hundred green last night, like like it's been said,
if you're starting.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Last night, then you had him available for the last
game of the year if.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
You need it.
Speaker 24 (17:23):
If you don't and you got to you know, a
game lead because it's a tie breaker, then you don't pitch.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean, you still got hm bailed.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
For game one in the playoffs.
Speaker 24 (17:30):
But if you if you're trying to save him for
game one, you might not get to the playoffs. It
makes no sense. It's like he's been infected with this
disease that this franchise has.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And my thought last night was everyone said, if you
start him last night, he's available for one sixty two,
that is, if you needed him in one sixty two.
If not, then he has a couple extra days rest
before the playoffs. But to just hull home throw Brady
and Brady Singer's been really good and he had won
bad ending two point one bet ending last night. I
(18:01):
get that as well. Listen into July. It's just anyway, Sair.
Speaker 16 (18:12):
That coaching carousel is a racking, and when the job
openings are a racking, yeah, coach sata fansel a knacking.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I'm telling you boys, he's not here.
Speaker 14 (18:24):
We're gonna get rid of him to take one of
these big time jobs.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
Somebody else will and he'll sneak his way into a
mid major guarantee.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Bah, thank you Brett.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Hey, guys, quick question for you.
Speaker 25 (18:38):
Anybody who's watched MacLean obviously knows he struggled all season.
But one thing I noticed is that the guy consistently
struggles to hit breaking balls away, and he's a shorter
player with shorter arms. I just been frustrated as to
why he doesn't make any adjustments, either moving closer to
the plate or helping the box to try to hit
that pitch. We've seen the same swing and approach the
(19:01):
entire season.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Isn't that a tape in on the hitting coach?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Chris Laka?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yep, good question, ton Austin Balling ain't easy.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yeah, the mirror mortals are taking over.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Great American ballparks.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Probably gonna go bother Austin in.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
The bow tie bar. I don't know, get into some trouble.
I might wear a full red uniform.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Did you see our guy Balling was in full uniform
a couple of weeks?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yes, I did, and I respect the heck of it.
I also saw that he kind of gave up on
the season on Twitter, Yeah, which I respect. I did too,
and I'm surprised he's now going to show his face again.
I did too, But he is. He's just a mere
mortal falling. I'm not going to be there tonight, so
have a couple for me. He's just a mortal angle talk.
Speaker 24 (19:44):
I'm tired of all the real listic people out there
being honest. I need you guys to lie about this
Burns team.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No what ner fault.
Speaker 24 (19:55):
They lost forty eight to ten the Carson Wentz No
Tar World US talk man, even though they lost third
quarterback for the third time in six seasons and they
ain't got a shot in hell.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't want you guys talking about him like that.
Dang tough times man. Alright, we're done. It's tough times.
We got a football in the NATI coming up. Yeah,
we do. Yeah, let's get pumped about the football in
the NATI next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
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