January 29, 2025 • 20 mins
Tony and Austin talk Bearcats, Bengals, and Reds with Ohio Sportscaster of the Year Joe Danneman, from FOX 19 on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Since e three to sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, sponsored
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All Day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, welcome back Hour two Cincy three sixty ESPN
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(00:36):
what you say about.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The big Game. It's not this Sunday, but the Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
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(01:02):
the sportscaster of the Year in Ohio. We know him
as our good friend Joe Danoman from Fox nineteen joining
us right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hi, Joe, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm doing okay, guys, I'm here because it's West, Miller said,
it's my job.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know, Joe, if you had a chance to
listen to the end of our number one or listen
at all last night, what do you make of how
the postgame was handled? Because there's a lot of people
sitting here today saying, how are you happy with the
effort when you were out rebounded by eighteen? When you
fail to do the fundamental things on the basketball court,
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it doesn't feel to me like the players are being
held accountable at this point.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
There are a handful of times a year, Tony, when
I'm listening to or watching Ucy or Xavier, that I
find it important to listen to what the coach says
after the game. And so as soon as the game ended,
I dialed up the iHeartRadio app to listen to Dan
and Terry and what they were going to ask and
talk about with Wes Miller. And my big takeaway is,
(02:06):
and I think you're right there on some of the
things he said. I think he's trying to spin it
and trying to hold on to a team right now,
that is slowly fading, crumbling, whatever the word is, but
it sounded like to me, and most importantly, that it
was a coach without any answers at this point. It
just felt like heat out of answers with this team
and what they should be, what their identity should be
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in the word I keep coming back to, I know
the word you keep using is is disappointing. The two
words I keep coming back to are underachieving and almost unrecognizable.
This is this is a brand and you see basketball
that has been built on a couple of pillars in
my entire life. You see every time they walk into
a gym, they're gonna be they're gonna be rugged, they're
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gonna be tough, they're gonna be physical, and they're gonna rebound.
And this is just the brand of Cincinnati basketball, Like
those are non negotiable parts of being a UC bear Cat.
And this team to be out rebounded seven straight games,
and I know U Tall is tall, but they didn't
look like they were necessarily very physical as a team.
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So to me, to see this team be out rebounded
this many times, to see this team not be able
to find ways to get stops at the end when
you really only have one guy that you're worried about.
It just doesn't feel recognizable to me as someone who's
watched UC basketball for more than thirty thirty five years.
It's just not the brand, it's not who they are,
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and to me right now, it just feels like Wes
Miller is out of answers on what buttons to push
with this team to get them back to playing as
they should.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Where does it go from here? Obviously the Big Twelve
doesn't get any easier, and I can't fathom that a
month ago this team was ranked sixteenth in the country
and we're ten and one getting ready for Big Twelve play.
Now the NIT seems like a long shot. I can't
believe this has happened over the span of a month,
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and I'm I'm quite nervous as to where it may
go the next month if those things don't come together.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
For this team.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, and I think it's important too not to absolve
the players in this situation. I know the way college
sports works that when a team struggles or underachieves the
way the Bearcats are and listen, I think the context
of what this season was supposed to be matters so
much in all the conversations about you see, this was
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supposed to be not just a year where they go
back to the NCAA tournament, but a year where they
get a good seed and they be playing for a
good seed and they might be able to make it
the second weekend and really have a memorable season. So
for me, it's not just pointing every finger at Wes
Miller and saying he needs to be on the hot
seat because he hasn't made an NCAA tournament. And although
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those things might be true, and I'm not saying they aren't,
if there's ten fingers on your hand, at least two
of those fingers need to be pointing a the players
as well, because at some point, and maybe people are
seeing it different than I am, Dan Skillings doesn't look
like himself, especially this recent stretch. I don't know if
it's the knee issue, but his rebounding numbers are almost
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laughable considering where he was last year. I think his
rebounding numbers have been cut in half. They need him
to rebound. He isn't rebounding right now. I believe his
last three games he's six to twenty two from the field,
hasn't made a three pointer. Dan's very capable of being
an all conference type of talent. You mentioned it a
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guy that said he was going to play one more
year and go to the NBA. I have to think
Dan Skillings is not right the way he's playing right now.
So I think there has to be at least someone
not absolving the players of this situation here. I thought
Gisell played well last night, but he's been inconsistent this year.
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Lukasis has not played better this year. There's too many
good players on this team, and you mentioned it. Lance
talked about it last night and the video he made
that the number of returning stars and the returning points
for this team for them to be averaging ten points
fewer this year then last year, it's to me, it
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seems like a coach and a team without any answers
right now. And to answer your question of where they
go from here, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'm not gonna fold up and pack up the season
because as long as there's still a conference tournament, and
as long as there's still another month left, there's still
a chance for this team to do something. We've seen
teams go on magical runs before, but the fact that
it has to get to that point that we have
to use the word magical run or that phrase, to
me is an indictment of where this season is right now,
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where I did not expect it to be as we
go to February.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Joe, on the other side, I feel like the more
I watch Xavier play, the better they're getting. They've won
four out of five. The one loss they give up
a sixteen point lead in the second half. But they
go to Creighton to night, who's won five games in
a row. If Xavier finds a way to win this
game tonight, do they put themselves back into the NCAA
tournament conversation in your opinion, Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
They're in the conversation now if they win tonight, I
think I think they would be in if the season
ended today kind of thing. Yeah, when you get the
number of Quad one wins they would now have, I
think that would be at least three in the last
what ten days. Considering Marquette Yukon at home and now
going on the road to Creighton. Now, this one's difficult.
Creighton is undefeated in conference at home. I think they've
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only lost one game all year at home and that
was way back the first week of the season against
Nebraska and.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
In state rival.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So the way I look at Dager is that they're
starting to develop a bench and in multiple ways to
beat you. And you know, you just oppose that against
UC and I think you brought it up last hour
where you said, you know, look at the number of
U SEE players where they were last year, how many
of them have improved. And now you look at Xavier
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and you look at the improvement some of these players
have made, not just last year, but within this year.
I mean, Dylan Swayne is one of the great stories
of the Big E season, the improvement he's made from
year one to year two. And then you look at
the Xavier, the Xavier team this year, some of the
transfers they brought in, and the Dante maddox Is and
the Marcus Fosters, the guys who aren't Ryan Conwell and
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Daveon McKnight and Zach Freemant and the guys that you
expect to carry this team. But there can be given
knights where one of those guys carries them. And you
see it's not getting that. And I hate to juxtapose
the two, but I think that's where we are. You're
seeing one team ascend and you're seeing one team regrets,
and it's coming from I think two things, individual player
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development getting better and also a coach who's who's understanding
roles and how to put guys into roles where they
can best flourish. And I think you're seeing that for
Xavier right now. You know, Zager fans were so excited
when Sean Miller got the job, when he came back
to Cincinnati with the reputation of how good of a
coach he was, and I think you're seeing it manifest
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now mid season for a team that hit a crossroads
and looked like their season might be done. But in
the Big East, and just like you see in the
Big Twelve, you get opportunities almost once every week to
play a team in the top twenty five. And if
you can take advantage of those opportunities and you can
coach a team up and get them to a point
where multiple guys are playing better than you expected, then
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you go on the runs that Zavier's having. But this
one does feel like a challenge tonight, going against Kulkbrenner,
going against Crayton inside their building. Zabra's had some success
there in the past. But to your question, I do
think if Zavier wins tonight, there're a really good spot
here in the second half of the conference schedule for
them to finish top four, top five in the conference,
in really cementous spots in the NCAA Tournament in March.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Insane to think about with how their season kind of
started and then the Zach Fremantle news and where they've
gone since then. We got a few more minutes here
with Joe Daneman from Fox nineteen. I got to ask
the news yesterday, Seemingly out of nowhere, Eric Hall Junior
is going to miss the entire season coming up for
the Cincinnati Bengals, and one may looking, if you're just
looking statistic wise, maybe he didn't have that big of
(10:17):
an impact. Eric All to me seemed like a guy
primed to take the next step, run, pass, block, whatever
you need him to do. How significant does this Eric
All news, in your opinion, change maybe what their approach
needs to be in the offseason at that position.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I think that's the part right there. Now they
have to plan for a guy not being here this year,
and I agree with you. I thought Eric All was
one of the great stories of the Bengals training camp
last season and in the early part of last season
because of the physicality he brought to their offense. You know,
we always talk about Joe Jamarti and what this team
can do in the era, but we've talked many times
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here at the start of the offseason about this team
trying to take the next step in running the football.
And we've seen so far in the NFL playoffs what
running the ball does for teams running the ball and
playing defense. And without Eric Ahl and the hammer, he
is physically in the run game, and yeah, I thought
he could take a step two also in the past game,
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but what he was going to provide them was what
they need, and that's another physical presence for this team.
Just to improve in the margins in the run game.
It doesn't have to be an overhaul. It doesn't have
to go from worse to first. It just has to
be better. Kind of the same conversations we had about
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
If it could just go.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
From where it was to you know, middle of the
pack pretty decent, then you're looking at an offense that
can take a next step going forward. It might be
better prepared to win more playoff games when they do
get back to the playoffs next year, as I expect
they will. But yeah, it's a big loss, and I
think what you said is right. I do think they
have to prepare for this and now plan around this
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because he won't be here this coming year, and I
do think they have to find a way whatever it is,
which with the new offensive line coach and the new
run game coordinator.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
To get this run game going.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And without him, it's a significant loss, and I do
think they have to think about how they can replace that,
whether it's through the draft, whether it's through free agency
before the season starts, once once the draft gets here,
and then especially two guys, because we always talk about,
you know, getting this Jamar Chase deal done and understanding
where they have to go from there. I saw some
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comments today from Duke Tobin, and in a reading between
the lines from Duke Tobin, it sounds like this is
this is going to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We all know it's going to.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Happen, but I think the urgency is there to get
it done as soon as possible so they can make
these kinds of decisions with the rest of their roster
going forward, whether it be through the draft or whether
it's through free agency.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Lastly, on this Joe the Red side of things, Wade
Miley was signed to a minor league deal. Yesterday. They
signed Austin Hayes. Probably not earth shattering signings by any
means on a national scale, but are these good signings
and a good step in the direction that the Reds
need to go?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
In your opinion, yeah, I think it's a little disappointing
that here we are just a couple of weeks from
spring training starting, and you know, there was one big
box on the checklist for Red fans, and that was
adding a big name outfielder who can hit the ball
out of the ballpark thirty five to forty times. And
I think it's we got deeper into free agency in
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the offseason, it was crystallized that this team just doesn't
have the ability to get that done. And for whatever
reason that is, whether it's financially in free agency or
just not wanting to pull the trigger with some of
their own players in a trade. It became pretty obvious
as it got deeper into the offseason that that wasn't
going to happen. So how can they improve the roster
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without making that big splash, and I think if you
look at the roster now compared to where it was
when the season ended, I do think it's better. I
think Brady Singer makes them better. I think Travinia makes
them better. I think Austin Hayes makes them better. I
think Wade Miley being there and being around this young
pitching staff can help them be better. So while it's
not a huge splash for this team in the big
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splash at the fan base one, and I do think
Austin Hayes, if you take out last year, and we
all understand last year he was dealing with some stuff
health wise that that probably limited his production the two
previous years he was a gap hitter. He could he
could hit the ball out of the ballparks occasionally. He's
better than what they had. And I think Lance has
made this point a couple of times. I've listened to
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his shows this week where he bumps down.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Other guys that would be.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Relied upon on this roster that maybe shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And I think that's the win.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Here for the Reds, that that Austin Hayes will now
take a bet that other guys would therefore have to
be forced to take, and I think that's a good
thing for the Reds. So I think they're in a
good position as they start spring training, but not perfect.
I don't think there were a World Series contender at
this point. I do think they're a contender to win
the division. That is pretty much wide open that that
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nobody in the vision went out and won it, won
the division in the off season with any moves name made.
So uh yeah, I like the move, don't love it.
I know it's not what the fan base wanted in
the offseason, the one big wish they didn't get. But
I do think the roster is in a pretty decent spot,
and certainly it's in a better spot than where it
was when the season ended last year.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Joe, two quick questions for you, First and foremost, and
probably most importantly, do you think Tony Pike could get
a hit off of Wade Milor No?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, okay, of course not no.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
He could not.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
He absolutely could not score on Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I said, Bronny, no chance.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Ronnie has one skill, Tony Broddy has one skill, and
that he can play a little, a little deepase. I
know we're all seeing clips of Tyres Maxie cooking poor Bronny.
But yeah, I don't have a lot of confidence that
you could score on Bronny or get a hit on Wade.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm gonna advise you. Let me give you one piece
of advice, Joe. If you guys want to take Fox
nineteen to the next level, go ahead and plan on
covering the Memorial Day three on three tournament this upcoming
year and reading a four time champ, defending champ from
last year is going to be back to take the crown.
And then maybe we can revisit this conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Okay, I'm about it. I'll be there all right.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Finally, Joe, to get back on track our Revivefitnessystems dot
Com poll question today, I want to ask you the question,
are dynasties good or bad for sports?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Good, dynasties are great for sports. He's a Warrior because ah, yeah, exactly.
But listen, if you weren't a Warriors guy, didn't you
want the Warriors to lose? So I think that's what's
great about dynasties and sports is it gives people a
cheering or rooting interest in something they might not want
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or care about otherwise. If that's to root against somebody.
You know, I think about myself growing up when the
Cowboys were great in the nineties or the Niners were
great in the eighties, just just cheering for and rooting
for whoever they were playing against, just because I wanted
to see them lose. So yeah, I think dynasties are
great for sports. And plus they also think that they're
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able to define an era and help sports fans understand
a standard that goes with whatever era it was. And
they can kind of because we all do it. We
go to bars and we have conversations with friends at
work and we debate these things, and there's a standard
for every almost every decade, for whatever sport it is.
When when you have these conversations based on dynasties. But
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I think dynasties are a great thing for sports because
they give you, They give fans something to latch onto
if they like that team, or they give fans something
to root against if they don't like that team. So
I think they're good.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Danaman, you're the best, Austin. Let me ask you while
we have Daniman on the phone. June eleventh, nineteen ninety seven,
Game five of the NBA Final is the Jordan flu
game or Dan's performance today January twenty ninth, twenty five,
which was more.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Impressive Danaman today, He's my goat easily.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yep, easily, Hey, Tony, Tony that game? You realize I
missed that game to watch the Great American Bash on w.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's even better.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Her story is that story?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I taped the Jordan game on VHS
and watch the Great American Bash live.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Man, do you still have the VHS?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No, I don't know where it is.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Here's here's one quick thing you're you're gonna laugh about me, Okay.
The one thing I held on to when I was
a kid. I used to tape those thirty minute Super
Bowl NFL film shows and I had every single one
of them tapes, and I saved that when I when
my wife and I moved from our condo to our house,
there was a box of VHS tapes and it was
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all those thirty minute John Facenda NFL films Super Bowl movies.
I still have those, I just don't have a BHS
player to play them.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Are you guys covering the rumble for Fox nineteen on
Saturday in Indy?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Noo?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But what have my coworkers bought tickets. Oh, he's like
rubbing it in faith, and man, I'm telling you ununbelievable.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Danman.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We appreciate you greatly, man, and look forward to talking
again next WEEKKS.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Joe see you boys there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He is Joe Danoman Fox nineteen You can you could
put that right up there with June eleventh, nineteen ninety seven.
That right there was my dannam and flu game.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I would imagine that right now Jeremy Row is carrying,
Oh my god, the bench. Can you imagine Raw is
pipping in this scenario, in this particular scenario, yes, I
think most of the time Raw might be Jordan. But yeah, interesting,
this is fun, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, welcome back Hour two Cincy three sixty ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at
Cincy Shirts, which, by the way, Austin, I do believe.
Cincey Shirts has a twenty dollars shirt that's going to
happen all the way up until the big Game in
the well, the football big Game. You gotta be careful
(00:36):
what you say about.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The big Game. It's not this Sunday, but the Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's just a shirt that simply says I'm bringing the
skyline dep which is awesome. They also have dropped in
some gaming tees for some party fun with maybe ask
me about my parlay or others gambling teas. Gambling teas.
Check those out at Cinci shirts dot Com or any
of their retail locations. Let's not put it off any
longer to get to our guy. You know him as
(01:02):
the sportscaster of the Year in Ohio. We know him
as our good friend Joe Danoman from Fox nineteen joining
us right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hi, Joe, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm doing okay, guys, I'm here because it's West, Miller said,
it's my job.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know, Joe, if you had a chance to
listen to the end of our number one or listen
at all last night, what do you make of how
the postgame was handled? Because there's a lot of people
sitting here today saying, how are you happy with the
effort when you were out rebounded by eighteen? When you
fail to do the fundamental things on the basketball court,
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it doesn't feel to me like the players are being
held accountable at this point.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
There are a handful of times a year, Tony, when
I'm listening to or watching Ucy or Xavier, that I
find it important to listen to what the coach says
after the game. And so as soon as the game ended,
I dialed up the iHeartRadio app to listen to Dan
and Terry and what they were going to ask and
talk about with Wes Miller. And my big takeaway is,
(02:06):
and I think you're right there on some of the
things he said. I think he's trying to spin it
and trying to hold on to a team right now,
that is slowly fading, crumbling, whatever the word is, but
it sounded like to me, and most importantly, that it
was a coach without any answers at this point. It
just felt like heat out of answers with this team
and what they should be, what their identity should be
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in the word I keep coming back to, I know
the word you keep using is is disappointing. The two
words I keep coming back to are underachieving and almost unrecognizable.
This is this is a brand and you see basketball
that has been built on a couple of pillars in
my entire life. You see every time they walk into
a gym, they're gonna be they're gonna be rugged, they're
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gonna be tough, they're gonna be physical, and they're gonna rebound.
And this is just the brand of Cincinnati basketball, Like
those are non negotiable parts of being a UC bear Cat.
And this team to be out rebounded seven straight games,
and I know U Tall is tall, but they didn't
look like they were necessarily very physical as a team.
(03:13):
So to me, to see this team be out rebounded
this many times, to see this team not be able
to find ways to get stops at the end when
you really only have one guy that you're worried about.
It just doesn't feel recognizable to me as someone who's
watched UC basketball for more than thirty thirty five years.
It's just not the brand, it's not who they are,
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and to me right now, it just feels like Wes
Miller is out of answers on what buttons to push
with this team to get them back to playing as
they should.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Where does it go from here? Obviously the Big Twelve
doesn't get any easier, and I can't fathom that a
month ago this team was ranked sixteenth in the country
and we're ten and one getting ready for Big Twelve play.
Now the NIT seems like a long shot. I can't
believe this has happened over the span of a month,
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and I'm I'm quite nervous as to where it may
go the next month if those things don't come together.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
For this team.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, and I think it's important too not to absolve
the players in this situation. I know the way college
sports works that when a team struggles or underachieves the
way the Bearcats are and listen, I think the context
of what this season was supposed to be matters so
much in all the conversations about you see, this was
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supposed to be not just a year where they go
back to the NCAA tournament, but a year where they
get a good seed and they be playing for a
good seed and they might be able to make it
the second weekend and really have a memorable season. So
for me, it's not just pointing every finger at Wes
Miller and saying he needs to be on the hot
seat because he hasn't made an NCAA tournament. And although
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those things might be true, and I'm not saying they aren't,
if there's ten fingers on your hand, at least two
of those fingers need to be pointing a the players
as well, because at some point, and maybe people are
seeing it different than I am, Dan Skillings doesn't look
like himself, especially this recent stretch. I don't know if
it's the knee issue, but his rebounding numbers are almost
(05:16):
laughable considering where he was last year. I think his
rebounding numbers have been cut in half. They need him
to rebound. He isn't rebounding right now. I believe his
last three games he's six to twenty two from the field,
hasn't made a three pointer. Dan's very capable of being
an all conference type of talent. You mentioned it a
(05:37):
guy that said he was going to play one more
year and go to the NBA. I have to think
Dan Skillings is not right the way he's playing right now.
So I think there has to be at least someone
not absolving the players of this situation here. I thought
Gisell played well last night, but he's been inconsistent this year.
(05:57):
Lukasis has not played better this year. There's too many
good players on this team, and you mentioned it. Lance
talked about it last night and the video he made
that the number of returning stars and the returning points
for this team for them to be averaging ten points
fewer this year then last year, it's to me, it
(06:18):
seems like a coach and a team without any answers
right now. And to answer your question of where they
go from here, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'm not gonna fold up and pack up the season
because as long as there's still a conference tournament, and
as long as there's still another month left, there's still
a chance for this team to do something. We've seen
teams go on magical runs before, but the fact that
it has to get to that point that we have
to use the word magical run or that phrase, to
me is an indictment of where this season is right now,
(06:48):
where I did not expect it to be as we
go to February.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Joe, on the other side, I feel like the more
I watch Xavier play, the better they're getting. They've won
four out of five. The one loss they give up
a sixteen point lead in the second half. But they
go to Creighton to night, who's won five games in
a row. If Xavier finds a way to win this
game tonight, do they put themselves back into the NCAA
tournament conversation in your opinion, Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
They're in the conversation now if they win tonight, I
think I think they would be in if the season
ended today kind of thing. Yeah, when you get the
number of Quad one wins they would now have, I
think that would be at least three in the last
what ten days. Considering Marquette Yukon at home and now
going on the road to Creighton. Now, this one's difficult.
Creighton is undefeated in conference at home. I think they've
(07:37):
only lost one game all year at home and that
was way back the first week of the season against
Nebraska and.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
In state rival.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So the way I look at Dager is that they're
starting to develop a bench and in multiple ways to
beat you. And you know, you just oppose that against
UC and I think you brought it up last hour
where you said, you know, look at the number of
U SEE players where they were last year, how many
of them have improved. And now you look at Xavier
(08:06):
and you look at the improvement some of these players
have made, not just last year, but within this year.
I mean, Dylan Swayne is one of the great stories
of the Big E season, the improvement he's made from
year one to year two. And then you look at
the Xavier, the Xavier team this year, some of the
transfers they brought in, and the Dante maddox Is and
the Marcus Fosters, the guys who aren't Ryan Conwell and
(08:29):
Daveon McKnight and Zach Freemant and the guys that you
expect to carry this team. But there can be given
knights where one of those guys carries them. And you
see it's not getting that. And I hate to juxtapose
the two, but I think that's where we are. You're
seeing one team ascend and you're seeing one team regrets,
and it's coming from I think two things, individual player
(08:49):
development getting better and also a coach who's who's understanding
roles and how to put guys into roles where they
can best flourish. And I think you're seeing that for
Xavier right now. You know, Zager fans were so excited
when Sean Miller got the job, when he came back
to Cincinnati with the reputation of how good of a
coach he was, and I think you're seeing it manifest
(09:09):
now mid season for a team that hit a crossroads
and looked like their season might be done. But in
the Big East, and just like you see in the
Big Twelve, you get opportunities almost once every week to
play a team in the top twenty five. And if
you can take advantage of those opportunities and you can
coach a team up and get them to a point
where multiple guys are playing better than you expected, then
(09:31):
you go on the runs that Zavier's having. But this
one does feel like a challenge tonight, going against Kulkbrenner,
going against Crayton inside their building. Zabra's had some success
there in the past. But to your question, I do
think if Zavier wins tonight, there're a really good spot
here in the second half of the conference schedule for
them to finish top four, top five in the conference,
in really cementous spots in the NCAA Tournament in March.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Insane to think about with how their season kind of
started and then the Zach Fremantle news and where they've
gone since then. We got a few more minutes here
with Joe Daneman from Fox nineteen. I got to ask
the news yesterday, Seemingly out of nowhere, Eric Hall Junior
is going to miss the entire season coming up for
the Cincinnati Bengals, and one may looking, if you're just
looking statistic wise, maybe he didn't have that big of
(10:17):
an impact. Eric All to me seemed like a guy
primed to take the next step, run, pass, block, whatever
you need him to do. How significant does this Eric
All news, in your opinion, change maybe what their approach
needs to be in the offseason at that position.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I think that's the part right there. Now they
have to plan for a guy not being here this year,
and I agree with you. I thought Eric All was
one of the great stories of the Bengals training camp
last season and in the early part of last season
because of the physicality he brought to their offense. You know,
we always talk about Joe Jamarti and what this team
can do in the era, but we've talked many times
(10:54):
here at the start of the offseason about this team
trying to take the next step in running the football.
And we've seen so far in the NFL playoffs what
running the ball does for teams running the ball and
playing defense. And without Eric Ahl and the hammer, he
is physically in the run game, and yeah, I thought
he could take a step two also in the past game,
(11:15):
but what he was going to provide them was what
they need, and that's another physical presence for this team.
Just to improve in the margins in the run game.
It doesn't have to be an overhaul. It doesn't have
to go from worse to first. It just has to
be better. Kind of the same conversations we had about
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
If it could just go.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
From where it was to you know, middle of the
pack pretty decent, then you're looking at an offense that
can take a next step going forward. It might be
better prepared to win more playoff games when they do
get back to the playoffs next year, as I expect
they will. But yeah, it's a big loss, and I
think what you said is right. I do think they
have to prepare for this and now plan around this
(11:56):
because he won't be here this coming year, and I
do think they have to find a way whatever it is,
which with the new offensive line coach and the new
run game coordinator.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
To get this run game going.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And without him, it's a significant loss, and I do
think they have to think about how they can replace that,
whether it's through the draft, whether it's through free agency
before the season starts, once once the draft gets here,
and then especially two guys, because we always talk about,
you know, getting this Jamar Chase deal done and understanding
where they have to go from there. I saw some
(12:28):
comments today from Duke Tobin, and in a reading between
the lines from Duke Tobin, it sounds like this is
this is going to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We all know it's going to.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Happen, but I think the urgency is there to get
it done as soon as possible so they can make
these kinds of decisions with the rest of their roster
going forward, whether it be through the draft or whether
it's through free agency.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Lastly, on this Joe the Red side of things, Wade
Miley was signed to a minor league deal. Yesterday. They
signed Austin Hayes. Probably not earth shattering signings by any
means on a national scale, but are these good signings
and a good step in the direction that the Reds
need to go?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
In your opinion, yeah, I think it's a little disappointing
that here we are just a couple of weeks from
spring training starting, and you know, there was one big
box on the checklist for Red fans, and that was
adding a big name outfielder who can hit the ball
out of the ballpark thirty five to forty times. And
I think it's we got deeper into free agency in
(13:25):
the offseason, it was crystallized that this team just doesn't
have the ability to get that done. And for whatever
reason that is, whether it's financially in free agency or
just not wanting to pull the trigger with some of
their own players in a trade. It became pretty obvious
as it got deeper into the offseason that that wasn't
going to happen. So how can they improve the roster
(13:49):
without making that big splash, and I think if you
look at the roster now compared to where it was
when the season ended, I do think it's better. I
think Brady Singer makes them better. I think Travinia makes
them better. I think Austin Hayes makes them better. I
think Wade Miley being there and being around this young
pitching staff can help them be better. So while it's
not a huge splash for this team in the big
(14:12):
splash at the fan base one, and I do think
Austin Hayes, if you take out last year, and we
all understand last year he was dealing with some stuff
health wise that that probably limited his production the two
previous years he was a gap hitter. He could he
could hit the ball out of the ballparks occasionally. He's
better than what they had. And I think Lance has
made this point a couple of times. I've listened to
(14:33):
his shows this week where he bumps down.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Other guys that would be.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Relied upon on this roster that maybe shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And I think that's the win.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Here for the Reds, that that Austin Hayes will now
take a bet that other guys would therefore have to
be forced to take, and I think that's a good
thing for the Reds. So I think they're in a
good position as they start spring training, but not perfect.
I don't think there were a World Series contender at
this point. I do think they're a contender to win
the division. That is pretty much wide open that that
(15:04):
nobody in the vision went out and won it, won
the division in the off season with any moves name made.
So uh yeah, I like the move, don't love it.
I know it's not what the fan base wanted in
the offseason, the one big wish they didn't get. But
I do think the roster is in a pretty decent spot,
and certainly it's in a better spot than where it
was when the season ended last year.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Joe, two quick questions for you, First and foremost, and
probably most importantly, do you think Tony Pike could get
a hit off of Wade Milor No?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, okay, of course not no.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
He could not.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
He absolutely could not score on Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I said, Bronny, no chance.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Ronnie has one skill, Tony Broddy has one skill, and
that he can play a little, a little deepase. I
know we're all seeing clips of Tyres Maxie cooking poor Bronny.
But yeah, I don't have a lot of confidence that
you could score on Bronny or get a hit on Wade.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm gonna advise you. Let me give you one piece
of advice, Joe. If you guys want to take Fox
nineteen to the next level, go ahead and plan on
covering the Memorial Day three on three tournament this upcoming
year and reading a four time champ, defending champ from
last year is going to be back to take the crown.
And then maybe we can revisit this conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Okay, I'm about it. I'll be there all right.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Finally, Joe, to get back on track our Revivefitnessystems dot
Com poll question today, I want to ask you the question,
are dynasties good or bad for sports?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Good, dynasties are great for sports. He's a Warrior because ah, yeah, exactly.
But listen, if you weren't a Warriors guy, didn't you
want the Warriors to lose? So I think that's what's
great about dynasties and sports is it gives people a
cheering or rooting interest in something they might not want
(16:57):
or care about otherwise. If that's to root against somebody.
You know, I think about myself growing up when the
Cowboys were great in the nineties or the Niners were
great in the eighties, just just cheering for and rooting
for whoever they were playing against, just because I wanted
to see them lose. So yeah, I think dynasties are
great for sports. And plus they also think that they're
(17:19):
able to define an era and help sports fans understand
a standard that goes with whatever era it was. And
they can kind of because we all do it. We
go to bars and we have conversations with friends at
work and we debate these things, and there's a standard
for every almost every decade, for whatever sport it is.
When when you have these conversations based on dynasties. But
(17:41):
I think dynasties are a great thing for sports because
they give you, They give fans something to latch onto
if they like that team, or they give fans something
to root against if they don't like that team. So
I think they're good.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Danaman, you're the best, Austin. Let me ask you while
we have Daniman on the phone. June eleventh, nineteen ninety seven,
Game five of the NBA Final is the Jordan flu
game or Dan's performance today January twenty ninth, twenty five,
which was more.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Impressive Danaman today, He's my goat easily.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yep, easily, Hey, Tony, Tony that game? You realize I
missed that game to watch the Great American Bash on w.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's even better.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Her story is that story?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I taped the Jordan game on VHS
and watch the Great American Bash live.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Man, do you still have the VHS?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No, I don't know where it is.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Here's here's one quick thing you're you're gonna laugh about me, Okay.
The one thing I held on to when I was
a kid. I used to tape those thirty minute Super
Bowl NFL film shows and I had every single one
of them tapes, and I saved that when I when
my wife and I moved from our condo to our house,
there was a box of VHS tapes and it was
(18:56):
all those thirty minute John Facenda NFL films Super Bowl movies.
I still have those, I just don't have a BHS
player to play them.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Are you guys covering the rumble for Fox nineteen on
Saturday in Indy?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Noo?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But what have my coworkers bought tickets. Oh, he's like
rubbing it in faith, and man, I'm telling you ununbelievable.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Danman.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We appreciate you greatly, man, and look forward to talking
again next WEEKKS.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Joe see you boys there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He is Joe Danoman Fox nineteen You can you could
put that right up there with June eleventh, nineteen ninety seven.
That right there was my dannam and flu game.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I would imagine that right now Jeremy Row is carrying,
Oh my god, the bench. Can you imagine Raw is
pipping in this scenario, in this particular scenario, yes, I
think most of the time Raw might be Jordan. But yeah, interesting,
this is fun, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Uh, let's take ourselves a break. Talkbacks can't wait for
those on the other side of this break. E SBN
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