April 24, 2025 • 15 mins
Tony and Austin talk Bengals draft with Dan Hoard, the voice of the Bengals and Bearcats, on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome back our number two Cincy three to sixty thanks
to Cinci Shirts. Thank you for listening on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. What a treat, what a pleasure,
what an honor? Here on Draft Day or any day
we get a chance to talk to the Hall of
Fame voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats, the voice of the
Cincinnati Bengals, the great Dan Horde joining us right now. Dan,
what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Tony? The honor is mine. Only one of the two
of us has been an NFL Draft pick. That was you,
not me. It occurs to me. At this time in
twenty ten, I was the voice of the patuck In
Red Sox, so I was doing minor league baseball at
the time. I don't know your Draft Nights story. Were
you at Augie's? Where were you as you waited to
(01:14):
get the call? And what quarterback piffed before you? I'm
sure it wasn't Sam Bradford or Tim Tebow, But what
quarterback chosen before you really pissed you off? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Man, Uh, there's a whole list. Jimmy Clawson could have been,
could have been one of them?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
The same team?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, same team as me, man, that's a that's a
John Skelton. John Skelton drove me nuts man seeing that
guy up there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh, rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Dan Lefever Lafloor from Central Michigan was up there in
that year.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Davis Webb, Yeah, I think was your draft?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Pretty much? Go through every one of them right now.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
This is a can't forget.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Mike kafkaf had a nice career, Man Caffa had a
nice career.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Where were the hikes gathered? Were you at home? Where
was the setting? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Dan? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Draft night? No, the first round was a pretty calm night.
I knew that nothing was going to happen on round
one of the draft, I believe. Uh. Day two was
golfing with family and friends, and then day three was
a draft party, which uh just made a lot of
people uncomfortable as the As the rounds passed, you really
found out who the real friends were with the folks
(02:24):
that were still sticking around when I was finally drafted.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, some folks showed up for food and drank.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yep's lost interest once you get past like the fourth
or fifth round, like we're out, We're we're done with him.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, but you really find out who you are good luck.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, let us know what happens this uh this
time of the year. Are you excited that the draft
is finally here? Would you rather have another week just
to crank out more mock drafts?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I've overdosed on mock drafts. Nobody has done more mock
draft simulators, with the possible exception of James Rapeene than
I had. I average about five a day, and I rotate.
So I don't just want to do the PFF one
over and over again. You know, I'll go to the
ESPN version, I'll go to the PFF version, I'll go
to the Pro Football Talk version because they all spit
(03:13):
out slightly different results. It's worthless at this point, but
I can't help myself. I'm addicted.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Have you found yourself in the mock drafts, coming back
to one or two names more often than not.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Absolutely, And I've gone full circle. When I started this,
I was on Walter Nolan and Derek Harmon. Then I
put those guys away for whatever reason. I was on
a Malachi Starks kick for a long time. I dabbled
into Jahad Campbell Waters, and now I've come back to
Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan. So it goes full circle.
(03:48):
You talk yourself out of guys for a while and
then you come back around. That's where I am right now.
We'll see if they're there at seventeen.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We heard a lot from Duke Tobin earlier in the week.
One of the things I found interesting was Duke talking
about their big board and how there are so many
more names on it than previous years. You would like
to think that with so many players now with nil
in college, they're coming out of college much more draft ready.
Do you get that sense that the board could be
larger because you have more guys that are a little
(04:17):
bit older, that have been in college for a lot longer,
that are ready to come in and hopefully make an
impact immediately.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I think that's probably true. As the draft goes along that,
I think the guys at the top still tend to
come out early. Those are the guys that you know
when they go to college are probably going to be
high NFL draft picks. So I think the Krem de
La Crem guys haven't changed much. But I do think
the depth guys are more likely to be people who
have been in college for a few years, maybe stayed
(04:45):
an extra year because they could get paid, and that
does make them a little bit more ready to play
on Day one.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I'm biased in the fact that I just want to
protect the quarterback no matter what it costs. So I
like the guard position for the Cincinnati Bengals to be
addressed at at some point, obviously in the draft. I
don't know that it's tonight, but I see a lot
about it. A Tate Rutledge from Georgia. I don't want
to forget though, and you and I have had a
chance to watch him for a while. Is Luke Candra
(05:11):
in your opinion and opportunity for a mid round guy
that the Bengals can grab it guard?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think he's probably going to be a Day three guy,
and I think the Bengals need to address guard earlier
than that. So if they take Luke Candra, it's probably
a double down situation where they take more than one guard,
and honestly, it probably means they've acquired more picks, at
least one more pick. I don't know that they can
use two on guards if they only have six. So
(05:40):
if they trade down, and I think they will in
round two to get extra picks, then I could see
Luke Candra being a double down candidate, but I think
they've got to spend a higher pick on guard than
day three.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Duke Tobin said this week Dan that they are rebuilding
the defense under Al Golden's vision. What do you think
that means and how different is that from the last
few years with lou Anarumo.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think it means that they've brought Al Golden into
the you know, draft meeting room with all of their
front office people and had him articulate specifically what he's
looking for to build the best defense he can possibly build.
And I don't know how much you know differently he
values certain types of defensive ends versus what lou Ana
(06:28):
Arumo did. But I'm sure there are differences, and I
think we are going to know a lot about that
after the draft over the next three days. So do
they have to be a certain size like Lou wanted?
Maybe not. You know, maybe the Mike Green type edge
rusher is something that al Golden likes more than Lou did.
Maybe Malachi Starks is the person he thinks is the
(06:51):
ideal guy to get this defense started the way he
wants it to look going forward. So I think we're
going to know a lot more about what Alice put
wishing for when we see the results of this draft.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
In the first hour, Tony outlined why he thinks the
Bengals should take a guard in the first round. Do
you think the amount of money that they have paid Burrow,
Chase and Higgins changes the way the organization values the
guard position.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I think it's the number one need on the roster.
Even though I am not calling for the Bengals to
pick a guard in round one, I do think it's
a glaring need. You've lost Alex Kappa. The guys you've
got left are called Cordell Vohlsen, Cody Ford, Lucas, Patrick Jackson, Kirkland,
and Tayshawn Manning, who's never taken an NFL snap. You
(07:39):
hope that Scott Peters, the new O line coach, can
take that group and a solid starter emerges. But hoping
for two to me would be borderline crazy. So I
think you've got to use a high pick, and I
think round two is the perfect sweet spot to get
your guard. Tyler Booker probably won't be there, although I
(08:01):
just listened to the Sam Montson Steve Palazzolo podcast this
morning where they did a three round mock. Tyler Booker
was there in round two at number forty nine. He's, so,
you know, a position specific. He can't be a tackle,
he's never played center. He's a guard. And there are
probably just enough teams that if they're going to spend
(08:23):
a high pick on an offensive lineman, it's either a
tackle or somebody with some position versatility. Maybe, just maybe
that pushes Tyler Booker down the board since he is
strictly a guard. I don't think that will happen, but
I guess we can hope. But even if he's gone,
Dodavan Jackson, Jonas Avoy and Aya, Marcus bo Tate Rutledge,
(08:45):
maybe Josh Connery, there are going to be good guards
in round two, even if they trade down five to
ten spots, which I think they will do to get
an extra fourth or maybe a couple of extra fourth
round picks.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I was going to go there next. It's the importance
because Duke Tovin talked about it, obviously wanting more picks.
He also dove into the fact that it's not always
easy to trade down. You got to find a trade partner,
you have to see value in what you're getting in return.
But as you just alluded to, do you do you
feel like that is something that this team is eagerly
looking to do to acquire more draft picks than the
six that they currently have.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He said they were going to do it, and I
believe what he said. I don't think it'll happen in
round one. It could, but the Bengals history tells you
when they hit their spot in the first round, they
don't like to move back. The last time they did it,
they had multiple first round picks as a result of
the Carson Palmer trade, so it made it a little
bit easier to move back, and it worked out great.
(09:42):
They got Kevin Zeitler by moving back, but with only
one first round pick. I would be surprised if they
did it then. But if you look at recent history,
in five out of the last eight years, they've made
a second round trade. Four times they moved down, one
time they moved up three spots to get Cam Taylor Britt.
But the more likely scenario is they move back. And
I've been studying these trade value charts that assigns, you know,
(10:06):
a numerical value to every pick. If you go back
in the second round, beginning with pick forty nine, the
point value is typically ten points for about the next
ten picks. So if you go back five spots, that's
worth fifty points on the draft chart. If you go
back ten, it's worth one hundred points on the draft chart.
(10:27):
Fifty points is a fourth round pick. One hundred points
is a late third round pick, or maybe like two
fourths or a fourth and a fifth. That's what I
see happening. I think that's the sweet spot. I think
there are going to be a ton of guys they like.
When they're forty ninth on the board, I think they
can go back to fifty fourth, fifty ninth, sixty third,
something like that, get an extra fourth, maybe a couple
(10:50):
of forths, and give themselves, you know, more shots at
the dartboard in this draft.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I don't know that the return for a Jermaine Pratt
would would be much, but it's it's been pretty quiet
here as of laid around Trey Hendrickson. Do you think
it remains that way? There are folks out there that
they want to have a hot take leading into the night.
A lot of those tie into Trey Hendrickson. Do you
believe that Trey Hendrickson remains with the Bengals throughout this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I think it's more likely than not that Trey gets
an extension from Cincinnati, partly because there's nobody else out
there that wants to pay him what he's asking for.
And I understand why he's asking for it. He sees
other edge rushers, edge players getting thirty five million or
thirty four million plus that he thinks he's just as
(11:39):
good as and he wants another team to pay him
that amount. But I don't think the rest of the
NFL sees it the same way. I think they look
at his age. I think they look at him as
a tremendous pass rusher, but a good, not great run defender,
and they don't value him at that number. So I
(12:00):
think ultimately the Bengals reach a point where Trey and
his representation say, well, it's not what we're asking for,
but it's good enough. I like it here. I want
to wind up on the Bengals Wall of Fame and
I'm going to stick around. So again, I think that's
more likely than not. I'm not saying it's eighty twenty
that that's going to happen. I think it's probably more
(12:21):
like sixty forty. The one thing I would say is
that if they do take an edge tonight, mikel Williams,
Shamar Stewart, you name it, whoever you've got, is as
the best edge that could be there at seventeen, that
would make it more likely that they would deal trade
deal tray moving forward in this draft. But again, I
(12:41):
don't expect that to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Dan, you started off by asking Tony about his draft experience.
What is Draft night like for you guys over at
pay Course Stadium? You just sitting around watching tape with
lap or you just eat a bunch of food. What
do you guys do? What's Draft night like for you guys?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, I'm definitely eating a bunch of food, that's a given.
But it's a busy night, particularly night one, so they've
got a party, an exclusive party inside the stadium for
season ticket members, and they are bringing Aj greenback. Wo
Aj Green is back in town tonight, so how cool
is that going to be. We'll be interviewing him at
(13:19):
this draft party. There will be other Bengals legends here
like Anthony Munoz and Kenny Anderson. Current players will come
up and be part of it. So it's a busy
night in the lead up to pick number seventeen. And
then once they get to pick seventeen, I'll leave the
draft party. I'll head down to where the coaches speak
after the pick. I'll be there when we talk to
(13:40):
that pick on the phone, and then I will crank
out a story for the website, and after that I
will do a podcast that'll be available when you wake
up tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Here we go, Dan, So appreciative your time. I know
it's a busy day, a busy time. Enjoy Enjoy tonight
and enjoy tomorrow, enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And before we let Dan go, I just looked at
it up. The Pittsburgh Steelers drafted Emmanuel Sanders in the
third round of the twenty ten NFL Draft. He had
more career passing yards than Tony Pike.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh, that's just mean unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That is last fifteen minutes. He's been looking up for
something like that and finds it on a way to
send you on your way. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Is their glass separating YouTube?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oh yeah, there's about fifty feet or three studio udios.
Yeah we are.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Okay, all right, good because you know they might have
to call in somebody else in the building to separate
you two guys after that insulted You're.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The best, Dan, I look forward to talking again.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So man, Thanks Dan, anytime, feel free to get me
a ring. I always enjoy coming on with you guys.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There he is. That is the great Dan Hohode, the
voice of the Bearcat's Voice of the Bengals. We need
to take a break your talk about Manuel Sanders. Unbelievable
talkbacks you next. He's a wide receiver, by the way,
great one too. Cincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome back our number two Cincy three to sixty thanks
to Cinci Shirts. Thank you for listening on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. What a treat, what a pleasure,
what an honor? Here on Draft Day or any day
we get a chance to talk to the Hall of
Fame voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats, the voice of the
Cincinnati Bengals, the great Dan Horde joining us right now. Dan,
what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Tony? The honor is mine. Only one of the two
of us has been an NFL Draft pick. That was you,
not me. It occurs to me. At this time in
twenty ten, I was the voice of the patuck In
Red Sox, so I was doing minor league baseball at
the time. I don't know your Draft Nights story. Were
you at Augie's? Where were you as you waited to
(01:14):
get the call? And what quarterback piffed before you? I'm
sure it wasn't Sam Bradford or Tim Tebow, But what
quarterback chosen before you really pissed you off? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Man, Uh, there's a whole list. Jimmy Clawson could have been,
could have been one of them?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
The same team?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, same team as me, man, that's a that's a
John Skelton. John Skelton drove me nuts man seeing that
guy up there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh, rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Dan Lefever Lafloor from Central Michigan was up there in
that year.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Davis Webb, Yeah, I think was your draft?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Pretty much? Go through every one of them right now.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
This is a can't forget.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Mike kafkaf had a nice career, Man Caffa had a
nice career.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Where were the hikes gathered? Were you at home? Where
was the setting? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Dan? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Draft night? No, the first round was a pretty calm night.
I knew that nothing was going to happen on round
one of the draft, I believe. Uh. Day two was
golfing with family and friends, and then day three was
a draft party, which uh just made a lot of
people uncomfortable as the As the rounds passed, you really
found out who the real friends were with the folks
(02:24):
that were still sticking around when I was finally drafted.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, some folks showed up for food and drank.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yep's lost interest once you get past like the fourth
or fifth round, like we're out, We're we're done with him.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, but you really find out who you are good luck.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, let us know what happens this uh this
time of the year. Are you excited that the draft
is finally here? Would you rather have another week just
to crank out more mock drafts?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I've overdosed on mock drafts. Nobody has done more mock
draft simulators, with the possible exception of James Rapeene than
I had. I average about five a day, and I rotate.
So I don't just want to do the PFF one
over and over again. You know, I'll go to the
ESPN version, I'll go to the PFF version, I'll go
to the Pro Football Talk version because they all spit
(03:13):
out slightly different results. It's worthless at this point, but
I can't help myself. I'm addicted.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Have you found yourself in the mock drafts, coming back
to one or two names more often than not.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Absolutely, And I've gone full circle. When I started this,
I was on Walter Nolan and Derek Harmon. Then I
put those guys away for whatever reason. I was on
a Malachi Starks kick for a long time. I dabbled
into Jahad Campbell Waters, and now I've come back to
Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan. So it goes full circle.
(03:48):
You talk yourself out of guys for a while and
then you come back around. That's where I am right now.
We'll see if they're there at seventeen.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We heard a lot from Duke Tobin earlier in the week.
One of the things I found interesting was Duke talking
about their big board and how there are so many
more names on it than previous years. You would like
to think that with so many players now with nil
in college, they're coming out of college much more draft ready.
Do you get that sense that the board could be
larger because you have more guys that are a little
(04:17):
bit older, that have been in college for a lot longer,
that are ready to come in and hopefully make an
impact immediately.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I think that's probably true. As the draft goes along that,
I think the guys at the top still tend to
come out early. Those are the guys that you know
when they go to college are probably going to be
high NFL draft picks. So I think the Krem de
La Crem guys haven't changed much. But I do think
the depth guys are more likely to be people who
have been in college for a few years, maybe stayed
(04:45):
an extra year because they could get paid, and that
does make them a little bit more ready to play
on Day one.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I'm biased in the fact that I just want to
protect the quarterback no matter what it costs. So I
like the guard position for the Cincinnati Bengals to be
addressed at at some point, obviously in the draft. I
don't know that it's tonight, but I see a lot
about it. A Tate Rutledge from Georgia. I don't want
to forget though, and you and I have had a
chance to watch him for a while. Is Luke Candra
(05:11):
in your opinion and opportunity for a mid round guy
that the Bengals can grab it guard?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think he's probably going to be a Day three guy,
and I think the Bengals need to address guard earlier
than that. So if they take Luke Candra, it's probably
a double down situation where they take more than one guard,
and honestly, it probably means they've acquired more picks, at
least one more pick. I don't know that they can
use two on guards if they only have six. So
(05:40):
if they trade down, and I think they will in
round two to get extra picks, then I could see
Luke Candra being a double down candidate, but I think
they've got to spend a higher pick on guard than
day three.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Duke Tobin said this week Dan that they are rebuilding
the defense under Al Golden's vision. What do you think
that means and how different is that from the last
few years with lou Anarumo.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think it means that they've brought Al Golden into
the you know, draft meeting room with all of their
front office people and had him articulate specifically what he's
looking for to build the best defense he can possibly build.
And I don't know how much you know differently he
values certain types of defensive ends versus what lou Ana
(06:28):
Arumo did. But I'm sure there are differences, and I
think we are going to know a lot about that
after the draft over the next three days. So do
they have to be a certain size like Lou wanted?
Maybe not. You know, maybe the Mike Green type edge
rusher is something that al Golden likes more than Lou did.
Maybe Malachi Starks is the person he thinks is the
(06:51):
ideal guy to get this defense started the way he
wants it to look going forward. So I think we're
going to know a lot more about what Alice put
wishing for when we see the results of this draft.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
In the first hour, Tony outlined why he thinks the
Bengals should take a guard in the first round. Do
you think the amount of money that they have paid Burrow,
Chase and Higgins changes the way the organization values the
guard position.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I think it's the number one need on the roster.
Even though I am not calling for the Bengals to
pick a guard in round one, I do think it's
a glaring need. You've lost Alex Kappa. The guys you've
got left are called Cordell Vohlsen, Cody Ford, Lucas, Patrick Jackson, Kirkland,
and Tayshawn Manning, who's never taken an NFL snap. You
(07:39):
hope that Scott Peters, the new O line coach, can
take that group and a solid starter emerges. But hoping
for two to me would be borderline crazy. So I
think you've got to use a high pick, and I
think round two is the perfect sweet spot to get
your guard. Tyler Booker probably won't be there, although I
(08:01):
just listened to the Sam Montson Steve Palazzolo podcast this
morning where they did a three round mock. Tyler Booker
was there in round two at number forty nine. He's, so,
you know, a position specific. He can't be a tackle,
he's never played center. He's a guard. And there are
probably just enough teams that if they're going to spend
(08:23):
a high pick on an offensive lineman, it's either a
tackle or somebody with some position versatility. Maybe, just maybe
that pushes Tyler Booker down the board since he is
strictly a guard. I don't think that will happen, but
I guess we can hope. But even if he's gone,
Dodavan Jackson, Jonas Avoy and Aya, Marcus bo Tate Rutledge,
(08:45):
maybe Josh Connery, there are going to be good guards
in round two, even if they trade down five to
ten spots, which I think they will do to get
an extra fourth or maybe a couple of extra fourth
round picks.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I was going to go there next. It's the importance
because Duke Tovin talked about it, obviously wanting more picks.
He also dove into the fact that it's not always
easy to trade down. You got to find a trade partner,
you have to see value in what you're getting in return.
But as you just alluded to, do you do you
feel like that is something that this team is eagerly
looking to do to acquire more draft picks than the
six that they currently have.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He said they were going to do it, and I
believe what he said. I don't think it'll happen in
round one. It could, but the Bengals history tells you
when they hit their spot in the first round, they
don't like to move back. The last time they did it,
they had multiple first round picks as a result of
the Carson Palmer trade, so it made it a little
bit easier to move back, and it worked out great.
(09:42):
They got Kevin Zeitler by moving back, but with only
one first round pick. I would be surprised if they
did it then. But if you look at recent history,
in five out of the last eight years, they've made
a second round trade. Four times they moved down, one
time they moved up three spots to get Cam Taylor Britt.
But the more likely scenario is they move back. And
I've been studying these trade value charts that assigns, you know,
(10:06):
a numerical value to every pick. If you go back
in the second round, beginning with pick forty nine, the
point value is typically ten points for about the next
ten picks. So if you go back five spots, that's
worth fifty points on the draft chart. If you go
back ten, it's worth one hundred points on the draft chart.
(10:27):
Fifty points is a fourth round pick. One hundred points
is a late third round pick, or maybe like two
fourths or a fourth and a fifth. That's what I
see happening. I think that's the sweet spot. I think
there are going to be a ton of guys they like.
When they're forty ninth on the board, I think they
can go back to fifty fourth, fifty ninth, sixty third,
something like that, get an extra fourth, maybe a couple
(10:50):
of forths, and give themselves, you know, more shots at
the dartboard in this draft.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I don't know that the return for a Jermaine Pratt
would would be much, but it's it's been pretty quiet
here as of laid around Trey Hendrickson. Do you think
it remains that way? There are folks out there that
they want to have a hot take leading into the night.
A lot of those tie into Trey Hendrickson. Do you
believe that Trey Hendrickson remains with the Bengals throughout this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I think it's more likely than not that Trey gets
an extension from Cincinnati, partly because there's nobody else out
there that wants to pay him what he's asking for.
And I understand why he's asking for it. He sees
other edge rushers, edge players getting thirty five million or
thirty four million plus that he thinks he's just as
(11:39):
good as and he wants another team to pay him
that amount. But I don't think the rest of the
NFL sees it the same way. I think they look
at his age. I think they look at him as
a tremendous pass rusher, but a good, not great run defender,
and they don't value him at that number. So I
(12:00):
think ultimately the Bengals reach a point where Trey and
his representation say, well, it's not what we're asking for,
but it's good enough. I like it here. I want
to wind up on the Bengals Wall of Fame and
I'm going to stick around. So again, I think that's
more likely than not. I'm not saying it's eighty twenty
that that's going to happen. I think it's probably more
(12:21):
like sixty forty. The one thing I would say is
that if they do take an edge tonight, mikel Williams,
Shamar Stewart, you name it, whoever you've got, is as
the best edge that could be there at seventeen, that
would make it more likely that they would deal trade
deal tray moving forward in this draft. But again, I
(12:41):
don't expect that to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Dan, you started off by asking Tony about his draft experience.
What is Draft night like for you guys over at
pay Course Stadium? You just sitting around watching tape with
lap or you just eat a bunch of food. What
do you guys do? What's Draft night like for you guys?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, I'm definitely eating a bunch of food, that's a given.
But it's a busy night, particularly night one, so they've
got a party, an exclusive party inside the stadium for
season ticket members, and they are bringing Aj greenback. Wo
Aj Green is back in town tonight, so how cool
is that going to be. We'll be interviewing him at
(13:19):
this draft party. There will be other Bengals legends here
like Anthony Munoz and Kenny Anderson. Current players will come
up and be part of it. So it's a busy
night in the lead up to pick number seventeen. And
then once they get to pick seventeen, I'll leave the
draft party. I'll head down to where the coaches speak
after the pick. I'll be there when we talk to
(13:40):
that pick on the phone, and then I will crank
out a story for the website, and after that I
will do a podcast that'll be available when you wake
up tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Here we go, Dan, So appreciative your time. I know
it's a busy day, a busy time. Enjoy Enjoy tonight
and enjoy tomorrow, enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And before we let Dan go, I just looked at
it up. The Pittsburgh Steelers drafted Emmanuel Sanders in the
third round of the twenty ten NFL Draft. He had
more career passing yards than Tony Pike.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh, that's just mean unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That is last fifteen minutes. He's been looking up for
something like that and finds it on a way to
send you on your way. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Is their glass separating YouTube?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oh yeah, there's about fifty feet or three studio udios.
Yeah we are.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Okay, all right, good because you know they might have
to call in somebody else in the building to separate
you two guys after that insulted You're.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The best, Dan, I look forward to talking again.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So man, Thanks Dan, anytime, feel free to get me
a ring. I always enjoy coming on with you guys.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There he is. That is the great Dan Hohode, the
voice of the Bearcat's Voice of the Bengals. We need
to take a break your talk about Manuel Sanders. Unbelievable
talkbacks you next. He's a wide receiver, by the way,
great one too. Cincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station. Thanks to Sinti shirts.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
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