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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, welcome back. It is the third and final hour
of Cincy three sixty on this Tuesday afternoon, the first
day of July, meaning this month, Bengals training camp is
going to happen, and we actually see an NFL game
played on July thirty first, and all that happening while
the Reds are right in the middle of a wild
card hunt in the National League. So there are many
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things happening right now, which leads us to our next guest,
who is covering all of those things for Fox nineteen
and kind enough to join us our very own version
of Tom Brady. It's Jeremy Raw.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hi, Jeremy, whoa your very own version of Tom? Okay, well,
all right, okay, in that case, In that case, let
me give me about a couple of days. Let me
get some plastic surgery in my face. I come back.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's a shot, Jeremy, that's a shot at the.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Worst, I said, Joe. Joe Bledsoe is still on his
way back from vacation, so we got Tom Brady filling
in again.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, look, Tom Brady is a and if you don't
need to take from me, but Tom Brady is a
very good looking man. But I feel like the older
he gets, he looks more and more like Fire Marshall Bills.
I'll h one of Jim Carrey's greatest characters. If you
guys know you, yes, he looks it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I know I have not.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Accomplished as much as Tom Brady in my career yet.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But I just want to put your coworker, man, that's
your Fox co worker.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
That's right, hey, coming on. He just accepted award over
the I saw a video.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
His wife sent me of him accepting the very prestigious
award Ohio Sportscaster of the Year from Mike Tarrico, which
is really cool, by the way, And I'm so proud
of Joe and I've said it a million times. I
know he's like an older brother and I joke and
jab about him but he Truly I'm going to when
I retire one day at eighty seven years old, give
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or take, I am going to look back on my
career and say, Wow, I worked with one of the
greatest ever to do at local TV.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I truly mean that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm not going to tear up. But Joe is awesome.
I love to give him a hard time, but truly
proud of him.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Jeremy. There is a lot going on right now with
what the Reds are doing and what the Bengals have
coming up. Before any of that, there's also a big
UC football uniform reveal happening tomorrow. Do you have any
insight as to what this reveal may look like for
the new uniforms.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, so, I actually just I just texted a couple
of people in the program. This is gonna sound weird,
but it's it's just like a blow up of Tony
Pike's face all over the uniform. It's and the weird
thing is is like, there are certain parts of your
face Tony that like, you have some good features, Tom Brady,
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So it's it's a really unique look. It's and the
weird thing is because your face, you know, you know,
it's kind of like a pale white being from Redding.
It looks like a new It's almost like a nude look.
So it's hard to tell if the players.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Are wearing a jersey or not. But it's it's gonna
be cool.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That is fantastic inside. I can't wait to see the
actual reveal uh tomorrow morning. Last night in Boston, Chase
Burns made his second big league start. It did not
go as well as his first big league started led
to questions about the possibility of tipping pitches. What what
did you make with what you saw from Chase Burns
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in Boston last night? And I think it drives home
the fact of how hard this game is and you're
facing very good hitters no matter when you're taking the mound.
But what was your takeaway from what you watched last night?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, first of all, I mean, can you imagine your
first two major league starts being against the Yankees and
in the Red Sox. I realized the Red Sox have
been somewhat underwhelming this year on the bigger picture, but
like to have those do your first two starts is
just incredible. I mean, I think we started to see
a little bit of what it looks like when you
see a young pitcher star or not checking time through
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the Yankees lineup last week, you start to see, Okay,
you have to truly learn how to pitch right. It's
not just going out there and being a big time talent,
a big time young prospect and all those things. You
have to learn how to pitch truly and hit your
spots and have the right pitch at the right time
and the right approach. To major leaguers, it is such
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a different ballgame in so many ways. So I mean,
I think it's easy to say to sit here and say, well, man,
like we should be concerned about Shakes Burns, But I
think the kid is just learning still what it looks
like to be up here. But I know for a fact,
you know, talking with the Reds, talking with the organization
and players and coaches and what they know and believe
about him, that I don't think there should be true
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cause for concern for the kid in his second start.
What we saw out of him in that first game,
the first time to the lineup, some of the pitches
that he made, you can see why the organization believes
in him, why players call him electric and dynamic and
such a competitor. I don't think last night needs to
be one of those things where you say, Okay, he
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can't hang up here.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I do think.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Though, however, it's also a reminder of where he is,
how young he is, and even though some even myself
were wondering, okay, how long does he stay up Does
he need to stay up here? Can he be an
integral part of this team going forward past the All
Star break, in the trade deadline, or whatever it might be.
I think it just shapes the conversation abit you start
being reminded of Okay, Hunter Green hopefully is back very soon.
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He needs to be in the rotation, and then we'll
see what happens with Chase Burns going forward. He doesn't
need to be up here all year long. They just
need to see how can they best use him going
forward and see how he bounces back as well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
How much pressure obviously, does that put when when you
have a starter at the last a start of an
inning you turn to tonight. Obviously a lot of pressure
now on Brady Singer not just to deliver a quality start,
but to try to get a little bit deeper into
the game for the Cincinnati red who obviously had to
exhaust a lot of their bullpen last night.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It's something that you know is gonna you know, like
this is why Terry Francone is here, right, Like he's
one of those guys that is supposed to be so
good in game at times and understanding when to make
the right moves at the right time. And so it
puts a lot of pressure on tonight's game how the
rest of the series plays out. But baseball's baseball.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You never know, right, Like we saw Nick Martinez go,
you know, basically almost like a league game, almost a
no hitter on Friday night, and you think the bullpen is.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Rested, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And so Saturday, when Andrew Abbott is scuffling a bit
and the bullpen comes off rest you figure this is
a slam dunk wins for the.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Reds and they blow it on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And so I think it's just it's one of those
things where it's hard to always see how it plays out.
You can stress out about it and say the bullpen
was taxed last night. Yes it was, But I think
looking at the arms they used last night, I still
think they're at a decent spot going into the night's game,
as long as things go well for Brady Singer.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
If there was a silver lining in last night's game,
this team did continue to fight, and they did so
against something they've struggled with mightily this year. That's left
handed starting pitching. And you could argue that Garrett Crochet
might be the best left handed started going in Major
League Baseball. They hit him as well as anyone has
all season. Can you take away some good from at
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least what you saw from the offense last night, especially
a guy like Matt McLain with three hits, Austin Hayes
homers and triples. Can you still take positives away from
a loss like that last night?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Absolutely you can. I mean if you go back to
last night's game and you think about, I mean, first
of all, what happened with Chase Burns, and you get
that massive death deficit early in the game, and you
think about how they battled back. I mean, if you
were watching the game, you see the Reds get it
to seven to four in the fifth inning, and all
of a sudden you're thinking about, Oh, this team is
actually back in the game. They have a real chance here,
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and that happened a couple of different ways. Even when
you know Austin Hayes Homers in the sixth it's eight
to five. I think those are good phrase of this team, and.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Not just that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I have believed since Stay won, well, since they won
for Austin Hayes, And if you've watched this team, you
see just how important Austin Hays is to this team,
to this lineup. I think it's very promising to see
him deliver the way he has already since he came
back from the IL again. I think he's such a
big part of what this team does going forward. Obviously
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McClain has been I think going well for the most part.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
The last couple the weeks or so. We talked about
this recently.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I know Spencer Steer was zero for four last night,
Joe Dee and myself talked about this, and I may
have mentioned it with you guys already, but it's like,
who is a guy that needs to be turning a
corner right away, who needs to be going well, who
needs to be a big impact on this team? Is
it Spencer Steer or Matt McClain. If you had to
pick one, who's more important? I said reclanning it's Matt McLain.
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I would argue, based off last week how that played out,
seeing what Spencer Steer did. I think Spencer Steer is
so important to this team's success. Yeah, I mentioned Austin Hayes. Yes,
Matt mclan is as well. We know the other stars
in this team are important, the Hunter Greens, the Ellie's,
and Andrew Abbotts, TJ. Friedel, But I think that Spencer
Steer is a massive part of this team pushing for
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a playoff spot, and I think we sold that front
and center in the past week or so on.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The side of the Bengals. Jeremy As we spent a
few more minutes with Jeremy Round from Fox nineteen. We
are now in the month of July, which means training
camp is happening this month. On July twenty third is
day one. We talked a little bit on this show
yesterday about the biggest remaining question for this team. And yes,
you could point the Trey Hendrickson, you could point to
Shamar Stewart, you could point to any of those positions
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on defense, but we both came back to the offensive line.
The folks at Sharp Football actually ranked the Bengals the
thirty first ranked offensive line going into this season, and
I think they have more upside than that. But as
you sit here today, what is your biggest question mark
right now still remaining with this roster for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The entire roster, I think there are a lot of
question marks. You know, I could point to the offensive
line league you talked about it. I don't mean to
flip it back to the defense, because certainly I think
you know you're wondering.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Okay, if Lucas Patrick is.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
The guy he comes in here, can he be a
guy that helps solidify the interier of that offensive line?
Is Dylan Fairchild ready, He's gonna have rookie mistakes? Is
he a guy that can do that? I don't think
they should be rated as one of the worst offensive
lines in football, just to say that up front, because
as you look across the board, you are going to
see so many weak spots on so many offensive lines
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across the NFL. The Bengals get that rating, I feel
like because they have been such a big talking point,
because their quarterback is one of the biggest superstars in
the NFL. I feel like that's always attacked You guys
can disagree with me if you want. If you have
a superstar quarterback, the offensive line gets a bigger spotlights.
I feel like that always plays out that well, So
I would disagree with that. I think they're in a
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decent spot.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
If you were to ask me.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
My biggest concern, and I've said this recently on our shows,
the one thing you know that keeps me awake at
night is still the safety position for the Bengals. I
know the Bengals wanted to upgrade there that they believed
they could. I had conversations with the team around the
draft and getting extra draft picks they thought they were
going to get at some point by trading back. They
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couldn't find trade partners they wanted, and so they wanted
to say. I know for a fact talking with the organization,
they wanted to beef up at safety, even beyond the draft.
They had thoughts of adding help at safety this summer,
this offseason. Now, the book is not written on the
Bengals yet in the off season, I get that, but
I know for a fact they understood that they didn't
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feel completely comfortable at safety. So now here you are
with Jordan battle aginostone to start the conversation and there
are question marks about what they can be still, and
I think that to me is the biggest glaring hole
on this Bengals roster. Still, we'll see how that plays
out in training camp and heading up the week one.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I still think Shamar Stewart ends up getting done sooner
rather than later. But the Trey Hendrickson thing, to me,
Jeremy remains fascinating because now I'm sitting here thinking, if
you're Trey Hendrickson, you have no rush to get to
the negotiating table. You can wait and see what happens
with TJ. Watt, you can wait and see what happens
with Micah Parsons, and if those players get into the forties,
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you can then come back and say, look, Miles g At,
Micah Parsons, TJ. Watt, they're all above forty. I'm not
asking for forty. I just want maybe thirty two, thirty three.
It's going to change the negotiating price. If you're Trey Hendrickson,
do you concern yourself that this does play out through
the duration of training camp with the side of Trey
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Hendrickson not really rushing to the table to wait and
see what other guys do.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, I still don't know exactly how Trey is going
to approach training camp. You know, without this new contract.
It's going to be interesting to see beause I think
Trade cares so much about what people think of him
and how he approaches football as character. And I've said
that again and again.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
But this to me is we can use revisionist history here.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We can talk about Jamar Chase and what the Bengals
should have done, which would have been to pay him earlier,
because the price only goes up. To your point, Tony,
the price only goes up on Trey Henderson the longer
longer the Bengals wait to get this done. Now Tray
and weight as well, But I think they can find
a number that makes sense. And it's not just a number.
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It is the years and the guarantees. We all know this.
Trey wants be guaranteed that his family is in a
good spot based on what he has produced at least
the last couple of years in the NFL. So to me,
if the Bengals could find that sweet spot for Trey,
whether it be thirty to thirty two somewhere in there,
I know that before the number has been twenty eight,
So maybe now it's up to thirty or so. But
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get in there and get this done and find a
way to convince Trey based on guarantee numbers, amount of years.
Maybe give yourself an out in year three. I know
that's been talked about a lot. If it's a three
year contract, give yourself a soft landing spot in year
three for the Bengals to kind of help them out.
But I think they need to find a way to
get this done sooner than later. Otherwise, like it had
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so many times in the past, the Bengals are going
to pay tax on this based on other contracts.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
If that's the case. Do you think if the Bengals
were to come back to the table now and say, okay,
let's get this done now and maybe the number thirty,
thirty one, thirty two, do you think Trey would still
be willing to sign that now or do you think
he would be kind of in this waiting game now
to see what happens with those other two contracts. That's
what fascinates me of if the Bengals can see that.
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Obviously Trey's camp would know that as well, But do
you think they could still get a deal done before
those other deals were to happen if they came up
in the amount of years in the contract.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Based on everything that I have heard and I know,
I believe that they got to those numbers. I think
they could find a way to get it done.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I think that, And I can't speak for Trey because
I'm not Trey Henderson. I think Trey has to in
his camp, have to have some wherewithal about his age
and where he is, whether or not he wants to
accept that. I realized that he probably does not want
to as a competitor, but I think it's one of
those things where you have to kind of say, Okay,
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this is this is a good spot for us to
be understanding all the work that we have done, what
we put in to get to this number. I think
that's where you sit down and say, let's.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Sign this and get it done.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That's where I would be based on what I know.
I think that would make sense for both the team
and for Trey. But again, when it comes to the
table and actually signing, I'm notre Anderson.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
The Steelers made a move yesterday and sent Mika Fitzpatrick
out the door, acquired Jalen Ramsey. When you look at
the Bengals in comparison to the rest of the division,
the way Baltimore has approached their offseason, you mentioned there's
still a lot of question marks on the Bengals roster.
How do you feel like they stack up with Baltimore
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and Pittsburgh right now based off their off season?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, it's interesting, you know, I think that. I mean,
first of all, I think that the Ravens have approached
the off season in a pretty impressive way. I mean,
you think about what the Ravens have been as an offense.
You know, a lot of that largely is not changing.
I don't think they had a lot of concerns there,
and I don't think they should with the kind of
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you know, player they have on Lamar Jackson what he
can do. But you know, Jamar Chase basically owns the
Ravens franchise right now when it comes to what he's
done with them. You know, I realize that hasn't resulted
in wins, but my goodness for Joe Brow and Jamar
Chase have done to that defense. I mean, it got
to be embarrassed in some ways, and I think that
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they are aware of that. I mean, you could just
you can start with a guy like Malachi Starts, who
I absolutely loved, who I absolutely love.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
The drafts, and I would.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Have been hands and knees begging for the Bengals to
take a guy like him. If I were a diehard
Bengals fan and you see him go to the Ravens,
you think, my goodness, you know, and then then Lamar
Jackson is asking for best buds to come play with him,
you know, and Ajiro Alexander like guys like that, where
you just think, Okay, they're getting better and better on defense,
they're already a prolific offense. I think the Ravens certainly
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would lead the conversation in my opinion as the Steelers go.
I think they have had a good offense season. I
still don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to bring
to them, I really don't. Jalen Ramsey has been a
really good player in the NFL. I don't know how
much Jalen Ramsey has left at an elite level. At
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an elite level, I mean, you know, it's like he's
been a guy who's obviously had an impressive career. So
that's a nice move, you know. I think if the
Bengals made that kind of a move, it would feel
like like you if you were a Bengals standing and
you saw Jalen Ramsey, you'd say, oh, that's really cool.
But then if you thought about it for like two
or three days, you'd start to have those feelings of like,
I don't really know that this is that big of
a move for us with that much of an impact
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right now. So, you know, the Steelers, they've had a,
you know, a decent offseason. I understand the moves that
they've made and curious to see what.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Their offense can be.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
But the Ravens, to me, had glaring questions, and the
Ravens were aware of where they needed help and got
help in those spots and even some backup help in
those spots. I think the Ravens have been very impressive,
and much more impressive by far than the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
His name is Jeremy Row. He's doing everything for Fox nineteen.
You're a certified bucket on the basketball court. Do you
have an NBA team that you pulled for? Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
First of all, that's very kind of you to say,
man if I could go back, coach have put me
in I could shoot a football over those mountains. I
could shoot a basketball over those mountains. I'm mixing Uncle
Rico in my career, Okay, I was. I was a
diehard Cleveland Cavaliers fan for a long time, and you know,
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Lebron has a mixed to my emotions so many times.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
You can talk to Joe D about this.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
From twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen, my relationship with Joe Daneman.
He a Warriors fan, me a Cavs fan. We did
not have a healthy relationship. We went to counseling. I
constantly went in as humble as I could be to
the counselor and said, it's not me, it's him, and.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Joe disagreed with that.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
At one point, when Draymond Green was suspended for a
game in the twenty sixteen NBA Finals, I distinctly remember
Joe d throwing a pencil and the lead broke and
went flying across the floor when he found out Draymond
was going to get suspended. And the Cats ended up
coming back three won and winning the championship. So but
I don't really that was a lot of digress there,
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and I apologize. I don't really have a team that
I root die hard for anymore. Like in the finals,
I didn't care who won. I wanted a good series,
and so it was devastating to see Haliburton go down
like he did in Game seven. I just wanted a
good game. So I don't really have a team right now.
I just kind of root for storylines and players.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And seeing what some of these free agents are getting.
What do you think you would be your your market
value right now in the NBA?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You know, what does a five to eleven and three
quarters white guy who likes the Jack three three have
much inside game?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah? What does he make in today's NBA?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I mean, Dennis Ruder just got another forty five million
dollar deal, you know, Uh, the Mavericks are given D'Angelo
Russell thirteen million. The NBA contracts are one of the
craziest things to me because you dive into these and
have these guys play like six minutes a game and
they're getting fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I am.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I am in all every year when NBA free agency happens.
At the contract values that some of these players get.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
D Russ got thirteen thirteen unbelievable. He's cooked.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
He he's a beast.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know, his Twitter used to say forever d Russ loading,
and I think he's done loading.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Now, so it's I would.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He's a completed project. I would say that I could
maybe if I were actually like a decent version of
me at an NBA level, I could probably.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Make about ten million a year. Yeah, I could. I
could pull that fair.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Sure, that's absolutely fair with that. We're gonna let you go.
What uh what's the next thing going for Fox nineteen?
What do you guys got coming up here? Joe or Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm sorry, wow, man, you know wow, my favorite my, Hey, hey,
my favorite coworkers do it to me all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Often.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I'm sorry, Tony, it happens all the time. We look
we the thing I would plug right now. We're kind
of in a slow part of summer.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
We we are going to continue to churn out the
best content we have.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I would just say, if I were to tease down
the line, this is a heavy tease. Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We've got a couple of big time Bengals receivers. One
of them is a current receiver. One of them one
of them is a receiver from the past that we
were working on doing a special sit down with and
kind of having like a fun conversation with them. That's
coming up heading in the training camp here in a
few weeks. So a couple of big time star receivers
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for the Bengals we're talking with. We're looking forward to that.
But other than that, we've got, you know, this Monday
night Cincinnati Sports show. My mother in law recently said
to me like, hey, I heard you have a special
coming up Sunday to eleven thirty, and I said, well,
that's every single week now.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
And she was so excited about that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And so every Sunday night at eleven thirty eleven thirty
to midnight, we have our Cincinnati Sports Show, a mix
of storytelling and conversations and son and I really I
say this. I know I work for Fox nineteen, but
it's my favorite show we do, so tune into that
on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Night to eleven thirty. Otherwise, as the.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Saying goes, Fox nineteen now never stops.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
We were always on love it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Jeremy, thank you so much and we appreciate your time.
Have a great rest of your weekend, enjoy the holiday weekend.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Please, Hey, thank you Austin.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Sorry, thank you, Tony.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
I'm a great.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
One guy the best that is a Jeremy Row from
Fox nineteen.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I deserve that guy. I deserve that Love that guy.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That was something Jeremy said in that segment as it
pertains to the Bengals that I want to revisit when
we come back. Since he three sixty banks to Penn
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