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Tony and Austin talk Orange and Blue with Tom Gelehrter on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back our three. We are live at Bengals training
camp thanks to a door and window where they sell
the best and service the rest. Major major shout out
to Adam Weber for his support of our Bengals training
camp coverage and all his support of the Cincinnati Bengals
for all these many years. This is something we rarely

(00:46):
get to do here Austin. We normally get to talk
to our guy Tom Gletter each and every Friday, but
very rarely do we get to talk to Tommy while
he's on the road and at training right now for
FC Cincinnati. But I understand that's how we're going to
Tommy today on the race and Claire roofing Hollin Tommy,
what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Tony, Tony, Tony, the stars have a line. You're at training,
I'm at training.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I mean, we got all types of live reports coming
here in the two o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I mean, this is this is literally a dream scenario.
I'll be it. I'm guessing it's infinitely less humid for
me right now than it is for you. Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Have a I have a light cote on and pants
out here training. How how are things back in Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's warm, it's a sticky. Practice has now been over
for a couple hours. What goes on, Tommy, take me
behind the scenes. What goes on on a day like
this at training for FC Cincinnati? Understanding a game is
being played tomorrow. What does a day like today look like?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, so today's a little bit different, you know, than
it normally would be when I talk to you Friday.
Usually when I talk to you on Friday, we're getting
ready to take off and head out from Lunking because
the team generally goes out just match day minus one,
but for these West Coast trips, they go up match
day minus two. So the team flew in yesterday following training,
and then this morning usual breakfast routine, the guys load

(02:14):
up the buses.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
We got here I'd.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Say maybe about twenty thirty minutes ago, they go through activation,
which is essentially the stretching and getting loose portion of
warm ups. Then they go through some team drills. They
do the very popular transition game that people could track
on social media every match day minus one. The social
media team is a great job. There's three teams. There's
the dominant Gray team. They're the favorite every week for

(02:38):
the transition game. Some people call it over the River.
It's kind of like a keep away or you have
to get certain number of touches, get it over the
river and to the other side. There's points awarded and
the champion is determined every day. So that is just
starting now. Gray, as I mentioned, is the dominant side.
They have all the designated players. They have really most
of the veterans. The Green team is kind of some

(03:01):
a mix of some veterans and guys that have been
around and and and then the Pink team is really
the kids and Kai Kamara. So Pink team is certainly
the underdog screens and a pretty decent run.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
As of late.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
But if you know folks are betting on it, they
usually I think hit the great team because that is
the team they usually win.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
So they do that.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Then they go so that is that's just starting now.
That will last about ten to fifteen minutes, and then
they will go eleven v eleven for the full like
scout session. Then when they will put the starters out
there against the scout team and you know, truly go
through their preparation.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Following that, they do set pieces.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
First, they start with defensive set pieces, so Paul Rodgers
and whichever assistant coach at the scouting fort for that match,
we'll go through all the defensive assignments on set pieces,
and then they will do attacking set pieces, so corner kicks,
free kicks to kind of wrap up training, and then
they'll have back to the hotel and every once.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
So much about football that I know is the mental
side and the amount of time you're watching film and
you're installing and different things like that. From an MLS standpoint, Tommy,
how much time do they spend in the film world,
how much time do they spend, you know, week to
week really trying to put in a specific game plan

(04:22):
for that opponent.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
It's I think it's a fair bit in my conversations
with Pat And look, now you're deep into the final
quarter of the season, so you could watch twenty four
to twenty five games on an opponent if you want.
Pat says that they very rarely watch more than the
last three games, maybe three or four, but that's about
it because it's what what have they done lately? You

(04:45):
know who in that group has done well lately and
maybe and it's not the case here in Portland because
it's a Western Conference opponent, so you don't see it twice.
But if it's someone you played earlier in the year,
like Charlotte, then sure you probably go back and rewatch that.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
But yeah, there's a fair bit of film.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
They'll be team meetings both today and tomorrow when they'll
review those kind of things and those set pieces that
I was just talking about. That's something that the coaches
have been preparing all week, so they're trying to exploit.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Some weaknesses and you often hear it.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'll say it, only other commentators say it as well,
but you know, straight from the training pitch to the game,
when a goal was scored off a corner cake or
set piece, very often, Kevin and I'll sit here and
watch it. If you remember a couple of years ago,
that goal that Alvaro bari All scored, that banger in
the US Open Cup just outside of the eighteen down
at the Bailey End, and we had seen that practiced

(05:38):
over and over and training, you know, on match day
minus one, and it was just a matter of finding
the right hole and the right weakness and in the
opponent's defense to execute it and get it done. And
so it's it's it's pretty cool when we could see
that on the day before the match, and then you
see it actually work in a game, and certainly they

(05:58):
spend a lot of time trying to trying to sign
the right places to make these things happen.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It was It's never good to lose, but it's stung
a little bit more because the Charlotte match. It took
away from all in all, what was an amazing lead
up and an amazing post game. If you think about
the ten year celebration and so many former players that
were so impactful in building FC Cincinnati to what it

(06:26):
is now, you don't want to take away from any
of that because it was so well done and so
well orchestrated in the game itself. It's a couple times
this year against Charlotte they haven't been able to get
much going offensively. What do you take from from the
loss last weekend.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I think just a ceiling of disappointment.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
And I think Matt Miaska in the postgame post conference
kind of hit the nail on the head when he said,
you know that they should have executed some of the
opportunities earlier in the match and taken advantage of that
game and had the lead, and then maybe it doesn't
play out the way that it did. You know, unfortunately
you end up with a red card. That was a
confusing situation and a frustrating situation. It felt like the

(07:05):
play should have been blown dead and then Brian takes
that step and you know, I believe that the step
is a red card, but I also believe the play
piles should have been stopped and never should have gotten
to that point. So, you know, unfortunate situation needs to
go in a man down and then the scramble to
fill in and you know, get get the right personnel
on the pitch and you can see the goal and

(07:25):
now you're chasing it down to man and obviously that
is you know, extremely difficult, especially considering the personnel.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That they had available in that match.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
So I think that disappointment is the biggest feeling just
because a lot of results win in favor of f
Ccincinnty over the weekend. So a win put to Cinati
back atop all of Major League Soccer, and instead you
get nothing out of it, and you just really feel
like you left points on a table that you know,
hopefully you don't regret at the end of the year,
but you might.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
And that just stinks in the biggest way.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
So I think that that's uh, you know, kind of
just sums it up. And look, also when I said
this on the air, he got a tip Captain Christie
and Kalina. He was unbelievable save after save after save
in that match. He had a couple of highlight reel
saves in the lost down to Charlotte, and you had
a couple more in this loss at t Quo Stadium.
So let's not take anything away from him either, because

(08:20):
there were some opportunities at that that he truly answered
the bell on.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
We talked about the the schedule going forward as the
uh the mL A season faces that that final sprint
to the finish line and and matches that you would
think would lend themselves to be favorable for FC Cincinnati.
Talk a little bit about this matchup tomorrow night against Portland.
Uh where they stand from a Western Conference point of view?

(08:46):
And uh, and how f C Cincinnati can get three?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, Portland's a team that's you know, been playing better
and they've had some player turnover as of late. Obviously
it's an opponent that she see very often. This is
only the third all time needing. Interestingly enough, they've all
taken place in different venues. It was the first ever
home in the less game real something for Cincinnati. Then
a game what two years ago at at TQL Stadium,

(09:12):
and in between that was a game down at Disney
when they were playing in the bubble in the knockout
stages in Portland won that in a penalty kick shoot
out after a drawing regulation. So but this current Portland
team is good and they have a familiar face in
Kevin Kelsey who's kind of been in and out of
the starting line up. Of course, he was with Cincinnati
last year. They should have a great atmosphere tomorrow night.

(09:33):
Diego Chara one of their legendary players over four hundred
pearancees in Major League Soccer.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
They're doing a bobblehead for him, so I expect the crowd.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
To be very very good for the Timbers, and Phil
Nevil seems to be moving them in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
So but for whatever reason, and I've asked Pat about
this and I have never gotten ah, you know, he
he doesn't have a full nswer for it.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
But but he's done very well historically against the teams
from the Western Conference. And it's interesting because I mentioned
earlier you only see them once a year. You don't
see all the Western Conference teams every year. You see
six right now, so three at home, three on the road.
But those matchups have have been favorable for FC Cincinnati.
So I think this will be a team that's pretty

(10:16):
hungry and pretty upset about how the last couple of
games have gone.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You know, no goals in now one.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Hundred and eighty three minutes over the last two games
and then the last three minutes of the one before that.
So you know, I think a quick start will be
really important and they'll be looking to come out on
fire and kind of you know, kill some of that
atmosphere for the Timbers. But you know, there's also a
really big question for Patnunians. Who's starting the defensive midfield

(10:41):
with Brian and under suspended from that red card. You know,
I'm pretty sure it'll be dall of Aezuela or Steven
Hamenz in this. You know, some of those are the
leading candidates at least, But who does he put in
there from the start? And how is the game managed
with the personnelity has available?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Is there something to be said? Because we talked a
week or so ago about the ability to play your
best soccer when it matters the most, and right now
in Major League Baseball we're seeing the Milwaukee Brewers are
fantastic and yet yeah, there's something that said about it.
Are they Are they peaking at the wrong time? So
I know you want to get better results than what
we've seen for FC Cincinnati, But can you also look

(11:18):
at this and say, Okay, now it's a great time
to reset. Let's get to playing the best soccer and
do so as it coincides with the end of the season,
so you can not only be playing your best soccer,
but play your best soccer as you enter into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, no, I think it's important and and we see
that so often, you know, and I think when she
since Any won the Supporter Shield, and you know it
wasn't uh, you know, a case of you know, not
playing their best soccer. Obviously, they had some injuries and
Matt mask was suspended. There were some other factors, you know,
as they kind of ran out of steam there at
the end of that you know what almost was a

(11:53):
dream season to them last Cup final. But you know, yeah,
I think I think there's a lot of And just
to be crystal clear, the Brewers aren't the only high
team in Major Baseball right now.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
There's one about two and fifty miles north. Relax, I think,
I think.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think in the last I think in the last
thirty games, the Guardians have won more than anybody, including
the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
But I just want to point that out. That's not
the question, but but just wanted to make bake that point.
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
And look look at Major qu starcker looking with the
New York Reples the last year, you know, barely got
into the playoffs and and then they you know, they
barely get into the playoffs and then they go on
this amazing run and get red hot and make it
the MS Cup Final. So and uh, if you'd like
a live update, so we'll let the folks listening today

(12:39):
know who won Before you're posted on social media.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Gray Gray, So there you go. I try to tell
you here we go.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
The favorites are Gray. It's a great just war in
the transfer game here here in Portland. So but yeah,
no they listen. It's such a big point of it.
And it's being healthy and again that that's where you
sometimes get caught up, you know, being a woman. Will
come back into the next. Kevin thank Day is working
his way back in the next. We saw his first
appearance since the Columbus game when he was injured. And

(13:09):
now we're going to start to figure out, you know,
what this team looks like, especially as some new distance
get involved. We'd love watching in there at s Anik
out there. So I think it's getting those guys comfortable
and then it's gonna be The other big piece of
puzzle is you're right getting hot and playing your best
soccer as you turn the calendar into October.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
What is just the overall? I think you can tell
a lot by the confidence and the vibes and the
field around the team. There are days here at camp
today for the Bengals there was an urgency, there was
a swagger, a confidence in which they they went with
and the other day you kind of felt like it's
it's the dog days. You're you're trying to get in
and out. What does the feel and the vibe and

(13:48):
the confidence around this FC Cincinnati club feel like to you?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I think that the confidence is really high and
you know that it's a group that really clicks and
has great chemistry in I think, you know, to the
credit of Pat Noon, and that has been the story
of his four years.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
If you saw the quote from Phil Nevill, the head
coach of Portland, you know, he said that that that's
probably one of his favorite.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Coaches of the last couple of years and one of
the best of Major League soccer because of the way
he coaches, and he said, look, he's no bs. Right,
what you see with Patton in is what you get
and there's no bs, there's no nonsense with him.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You get, you know, straight up coach.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
And I think that's reflective in the chemistry he hasn't
addressing room and you see it at training. You know,
they know when they turn it on to be serious,
but they also are able to have a good time.
It doesn't have to be serious the whole time, Right,
They're gonna have a good time, they're gonna stay trash
in that transition game, you know, and you know the
different teams and the greeting team has a little trophy,

(14:46):
so they celebrate with that every time they win. And
when the when the pink team wins with all the kids,
it's a big deal. And you know, when the great
team wins, it's the slagger. But then now they're gonna
turn it on to eleven to eleven and it's time to go.
It's time to get great for Portland, right, So I
think chemistry is really good. I think you know, Pat
gets a lot of credit for the way that he
has managed that over the years, and Chris all Bright

(15:07):
his staff for making sure they getting the right guys
in so that the chemistry is not disrupted.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But the guys who are sitting in that dressing.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Room health standpoint Tommy, going down the stretch, where does
it feel that this team is at.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Uh okay, you know, still fighting, you know, being a wobito.
We know it's gonna be out for a bit.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
You know, you're still you know, uh nursing the injuries
of Sergia Santos and u yak Kubo and luk Or
Chane left the match last.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Week, so so he's added into that mix.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
So I think there's a couple couple guys, you know
that you're hoping to get back to add some more
depth and a couple of the new faces that you
want to see play.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
More and more. But but you're getting there, and uh,
they're coming along all right, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Speaking of coming along all right here, Tommy, before we
let you go, Uh, what what's the feel in uh
in Cleveland? Right now? This this game is as rapidly
approaching between the Browns and the Bengals. I know shador
Sofer the setback who starts at quarterback week one, Tommy,
And uh, how ready is the city of Cleveland for
Cincinnati to invade?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I mean, I mean, we we getting ready? And how's
your arm feeling? Because at this rate they may sign
you to be.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
A string And I mean, Lord knows that that you've
worked your way up the depth chart before, So why
why not one more run at it?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Anthony? I mean, that's nice, let's let's go.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
But no, I think, uh, I mean it's interesting and
it's funny because I was I was texting with Connor
Barlin the other night named John I said, listen, yep.
I was like, I need a full report by Saturday
of why the Browns are going.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
To Super Bowl or why all my hopes are going
to be crushed.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And I said, and if you have it ready sooner,
which you probably already do everyone practice, feel free to
send it over. He said, I'll wait till Saturday, and
I know he'll give me. He'll give me four report.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Now.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
From what I've read, it sounds like the defense has
been really good, but that's to be expected in many ways,
especially when you get an anchor like Miles Garrett leading
the way.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
But we'll see it should be should be a very.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Interesting game, and there's a lot to be figured out,
and hopefully.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
They just keep Jill flaccoing the bull.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Rap Tommy, do you think that the Browns need to
put Miles Garrett in some sort of rehabilitation facility as
he's now got seven or eight traffic tickets and one
that included a pretty nasty wreck that caused him to
miss a game.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Fast fast cars, Go fast boys. You got anything else,
but yeah, just take your foot off the gas. Miles,
come man, yep?

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Just uh, I mean between him and Shador, that's like
nine speeding tickets over the last several years.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
The various municipalities should be flush with.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Strongeville police are staying busy.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
I know that much. It ain't that the truth. So yeah,
be safe, boys. I prefer to like, let's just be smart,
all right, fair enough?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think that's fair. Tommy. We we certainly appreciate your
time each and every week week, especially the uh the
on site live audition, live edition of Just joined Us
Gray coming out on top today. That's kind of how
these guys are turning a little bit down here at
oh at the practice fields at paid Course Stadium. Tommy,
thank you. We'll talk again next week.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
You got it, brother, good to get a chat with you. Boys.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Have good on good luck with the event on Saturday,
looking forward here and how it goes and uh yeah,
cheers boys.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Cheers Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, that's Tom Gallaer our FC Cincinnati
report when we come back. Uh, do we have any
Duke Tobin. I can't believe Duke Tobin's talking to folks.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, Duke Tobin us earlier today, I believe it was
earlier today was on Serious XM NFL radio. He of
course was asked about uh, Trey Hendrickson. We have about
two minutes of Duke that we can play for you.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Duke Tobin. We'll get to that when we come back.
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