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Speaker 2 (00:35):
All right, welcome back. It is our three thanks to
Penn Station. Thank you for listening on the Friday Football Frenzy.
You know what time it is because we get a
chance to talk a different type of football each and
every Friday. This with the man you know him as
the voice of FC Cincinnati. The Orange Blue Back in
action tomorrow against Nashville. It's a big one and we
got to discuss it now with Tom Glad Tommy g
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what's up Tommy?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hello, Tony, Happy Friday. Glad to be here with you
in our normal slot and glad to get get back
to work Saturday night and hopefully see a win inside
of the QL Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I can't imagine how good it is for you to
be able to get back to work and maybe erase
the bad taste that was Sunday lingering because we have
to do it. Let's rip the band aid off. Let's
not hide it to the back.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, we have to wait till the end of the segment.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You're right, everything shaping up for what you needed. Joe
Flacco turning back the hands of time. The defense holds
the Bengals to seven yards in the second half, and
yet you're left coming up just short at the end
of the game. What were your overall takeaways from last Sunday?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Defense was really good? I think I think that's fair.
I'm out there in the running for Defensive Player of
the Year again. You know, I was a couple of
rookies shine, Joe Flaco did en off. You know. They
kicking game was obviously tragically disappointing. You know, I had
a friend I'm interested in your take on this situation.
(02:06):
I had a friend asked, you know how or not
two really good kickers in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, because it does feel like some kickers, like fifty
five is a chip shot anymore?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Right, Like the pool should be really deep considering there's
how many how many? Uh uh what do we call it?
One division? One FCSS championship division whatever, Like how many
college football teams had a high level more there?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
One hundred and fifty at least one hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, at least, right, so one hundred and twenty five
are the first drink kickers. And I mean you walked
out a specialist before, like they got like three of
them on every team, and like, how how is the
pool not so deep that like every guy's a stud?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, it's just that's a good.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Tragic you know, I don't know what. And look, maybe
maybe this kid is a stud and they just had
a really really bad end of the game.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
This might be crazy, but the style of football that
is used in the NFL and specifically the K ball,
and then the width of the hashes and uprights in
the college football and it's all different.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So I think there's a huge We need some uniformity.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yes, I've always said that uniformity and the rules and
the dimensions all of it between college and the area. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean you listen when when going from college baseball
to college to whatever level you land at, like the bases,
or my son's playing at mejor league baseball at fourteen
years old. He's playing at Major league baseball lengths. Right, Yeah,
you know the back at ten foot? Who want your
kids older than my ten or eight or nine something
like that, Right, It's like the hoop's not moving at
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that point. Yeah, so yeah, maybe that needs to be explored.
But that part was frustrating obviously. The Lake trying to
drive there and win the game. I mean, it's just
it's it's just so unfortunate for.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
My brown gets easier.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
This was Yeahdi and the Ravens are kind enough to
settle bate their thirtieth anniversary of moving to Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Clear complete coincident coming off a disaster.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean, I don't get dear. And then home backers, yeah,
who look awfully good?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So what And.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Soccer, Yes, let's talk FC Cincinnati orange and blue.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Now, no more orange and brown or orange black, Let's
go to orange and blue.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, we talked last week about the disappointing results for
FC Cincinnati as of late. When we spoke last week,
they were coming off the one nil loss to Philly
and you had the weekend off, you had some time
to kind of regroup, and now here comes to Nashville.
Team Tommy, we we talked about this before. The Eastern
Conference standings are so tight that if you don't take
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care of business against Nashville, you could slide back from
second to maybe even fourth by the end of this weekend.
This is a massive, massive game in a standings perspective,
and if you had any hope of catching Philly, feels
like you got to get three tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, obviously the lost two weeks ago. It was
pretty devastating as far as pushing you five points back
with five games to go, which is a really cooky situation.
But now all of a sudden you're staring it down
and you're only two points ahead of Nashville, who's, like
you said, in fourth, and with a win, Nashville jumps
ahead in the table and they just get a little
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bit complicated from there. So yeah, you're home in another
playoff like match. Again, it's a really good team, a
team that you might see in the playoffs, a team
that you want to make sure you're ahead of in
the standings because you know, I just Dina's not gonna
win any tiebreakers on goal differential except for maybe Columbus
right now though who plus four is there?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The plus six?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean National's in fourth place at plus sixteen or
land On Miami in fifth to sixth, but plus fourteen,
So they're gonna win those tiebreakers if they have more
wins and they're even on point term, sorry, if the
wins are even in the points or even to go
to the gold differential and those guys will have the advantage.
So listen, it is so important to find a way
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to come out, to have the right intensity from the jump,
to to have the right plan because the national team
is good, albeit they've struggled a little bit. They've lost
some of their form, you know, over the last couple
of weeks and league play as well. So it'll be
really interesting to see one team that takes control early.
You know, the home goal scoring drot Now, the two
hundred and ninety minutes without a goal at home, I
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haven't gone through. I'll do it tomorrow and see I don't.
I would imagine that since Pat Nooning took over, the
team has not gone two hundred ninety minutes at home
without a goal, or even three straight games, which would
be tw hundred and seventy minutes. They get to go
back twenty minutes into that game at Miami, which seems
like an engal months ago. It was two months ago. Now,
I guess that Miami game the third goal seven minute.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
So yeah, that's a little bit of a hedge scratcher,
and I'm sure that a lot of attention in time
pat kind of acknowledge as much was spent on it
during break the good news some of the new guys
back in.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Brenner a lot of time to train here. Did you
have a chance to stay with him with the Bearcats game?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I didn't get a chance till.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Who knew it was funny. I was sitting there on
my Saturday off and looking at the media and who
knew that that Threnner being at that game was like
the international break social media post that I needed. Yeah,
he was just unexpected of everybody who who might show
up on the sideline a good and good on him
for not you know, taking off, going to be turning
name from being here and taking in the Bearcats game.
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And they got a Jersey's gonna give a gifts. That
was pretty cool. But you know, so he's had time
to get you know more ingrained into the system. You know,
Kevin Dunkan unfortunately was away on international break so they
didn't really get to work together. But uh, you know, Kevin,
Kevin back in training today, so you know they've been
able to hopefully get more on the same page. Obviously
Evander was around, so he's able to work with him.
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I think with the new editions coming in this time
probably has been good and probably give the team a
little bit of Socier five games, like let's go win
those five and get it for them going into playoffs,
and if you do that, then you kind of see
how your cards a lie the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
How difficult is it because the season is so long
and there's different breaks, How difficult is it to find
that form and to find it at the exact time
you need to because with the season length, you see
teams that are there and then they fall off and
then they're back. But it feels like you just have
to have a unbelievable feel of how to get it
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going in the right direction at the most opportune time.
And obviously health and injuries play a big role, but
it feels like there's a lot that goes into this.
For a coach or a manager at this level to
be able to kind of dictate how you get them
to play the best at that time.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean, look when one interesting thing, you won
this watershow two years ago. There never it really was
a severe dip in form, and if there was, there
was a couple of draws, you know, there was never
really a concern form. And then last year I thought
the first half of the season team was in maybe
even better for him the twenty twenty three and they
actually dropped after in the home stretch and obviously we're
eliminated in the first round by New York City. This year,
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it's been kind of stretches, right. You had the stretch
in April started into March actually with the win going
to Nashville and getting a two to one win. Then
you had a perfect month of April, the four straight wins,
so you were at five straight wins. At some point,
you were at seven of eight victories across your league
games going into middle of Bay and remember that's when
the team jumped in the first place for the first
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time all year, and you're like, all right, let's go,
Like came on. You had a big game up in
Columbus you got a draw out of it, no big deal.
And then it was Atlanta, Dallas and DC. You had
three you know, very poor teams. So the team was
gonna take over, right And remember a conversation. We had
an many lost draw loss and the forum going into
that international break was a disaster and you got one
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point out of the possible nine against the situation where
you really thought you should get all nine. But then
they had to break some time to think about it.
They came back win, win, win, all on the roads England, Montreal,
Orlando City. Obviously Lando's very this year. Came back with
a home win against Chicago, and the tough loss against
Columbus turned round with Inter Miami and Salt Lake and
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then I draw up Miami and you're like, okay, well
again they find a form. But they come out of
the league's cover break and obviously you've struggled. Got to
win in Portland three to two, but the three straight
one nail losses at home. So it's the biggest roller coasters.
Hopefully now that you know it's going back to those
those victories and positive results coming out of the losses
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that we've seen. I think it's hard and I think
you look at Nashville and I mentioned they're in a
little bit of a tough run of form. They've lost
four or five matches, and that's coming off of us.
They wish they were almost unbeatable. Ahead of that, they
were playing really really well, you know, before things kind
of fell off and we're picking up win after win.
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So you know, these two teams are not unique to it.
Had a little bit of a downswing. Now obviously they
are red hot and Columbus is going through it right now.
They've dropped off, so it's going to be very intriguing
to kind of see who who turns it on. And
it's always been said like a lot of you know,
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getting in the playoffs in the right rhythm and then
getting red hot at the right time. You know, look
at what New York Red Bulls did last year. They
got red hot at the right time and ran all
the way through to them a lot of the final.
I think something that's been interesting, and I was talking
to somebody about this earlier this week, is that I
can't remember many games I'm gonna try to go through
before we come on the air tomorrow night and cut
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it up, is how many nights has Pat Newton been
able to put out his very best eleven of what
he had available at that moment in time on his roster, Like,
that's not gonna be the case tomorrow, even with with
most of the team healthy. You'll being wolbedo, he's still
out right and it's going to be for a couple
of weeks. So that's not making an excuse. That's been
a reality. It's been a little bit unlucky that I
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imagine there's only been a couple of nights where he's
truly felt like he's had his best eleven available. But listen,
this team certainly had the pieces and the bodies, and now
they have the weapons. You know, it's on whatever Pat
Newton thinks is the best starting eleven. They have weapons
on the bench to come in and help. We saw
that at the end of the last nights where he
had like fourteen strikers on the field at some time.
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You know, and it'll be telling, but they might get
to a quick start against Nashville.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
If outside of the quick start strategically, what is in
your opinion that the biggest key to not only get
a win, get three points, but to erase these struggles
that they have been dealing with at home.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Oh it's the two guys are top and hitting, Muktah
and Sam Surage for Nashville, and they've been so good
this year. Surge all the Many League O Soccer twenty
goals on the season, Muktar looking like an MVP agin
when everyone was saying his performance had been dropping off
the last few years, and look the numbers certainly had
since he won the MVP a few years back. But
they're both playing at a really really high and impressive level.
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So if you're not shutting down Surge and must then
they're gonna hurt you. And we've seen games this year
in Nashville has scored a whole bunch of goals and
then those two certainly have been involved. So defensively, he's
going to be strong, you know, patvel that that Matt
I picked up really mindor and occumists to be training
this week. He's back into it. I was out there today,
he was training at full So I expect that Matt'll
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be able to go. Robinson is healthy again after the break,
miss those two games going into it, but he's been
training and now as a contract extension, which is huge,
so I think it starts with those two guys being
in there together there and then whomever else that Pat
puts together, you know, as part of his starting eleven.
But you've got to be really strong defensively against this
national team, and I truly believe like you got to
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find a way to snap the scoreless streak, you know,
get a goal in the first fifteen minutes and take
the pressure off everybody. Everybody lets hail a little bit,
and then you could push forward and watch way through
the game plan.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And win that match.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Me gee, the voice of FC Cincinnati, Tommy, you're the best.
We're about to do our Pickham segment next. I've got
the Ravens and the Browns on the sheet, the numbers
eleven and a half. Are you laying the points?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, that's give me, give me eleven and a half
for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Alright, alright, what's your response to saying that Derrick Henry
is hard to.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Shut off? Isn't that like my fourteen year old son
comes to me. It's like, Dad, did you I'm like
the son, you're fourteen? Do you understand that that's a
bad thing to say? I don't. I don't care if
he's thinking about if I'm the running back for the Ravens,
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Like I'd be really easy to stop, but you don't
say anything. No, keep keep your mind. He goes back
in it and about all the time, and our friend
Terry Nelson to give him him grief about it. But
it's like Terry, Terry was was with everything. What he
called it, the group of single played for the bear right,
like you know, a couple of points, couple read that,
so and so forth down the line of steels blocks.
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He's he's he's the average of the quadruple single and
he you know, he he hooks up with Bill Cook
outside of practice, going in the Crosstown street out and
tells and guarantees victory against Navier. Ye guarantees victory. And
he said, this is back in the day, so you know,
there's no cell phones like you have the room phone,
like the house phone. It makes up six thirty in
the morning with the phone ran and you know who's
on the other line read in the morning paper with
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his coffee not good. He goes, get to my office
right now and like the whole walk over, you know
exactly what was gonna be, you know, And and Huggs
read him to ride act ye, and you all better
win because you just guarantee it. So you don't go
find you boys and tell them to win the game for.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You and hope they wanted to look like.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And hope that you're not one on one in space
with Derrick Henry.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Right, Like when does when do these things work out
for you? Never for anybody like Johnson? Right, Like just
stop talking please like this not you've.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Watch fourteen and oh if you're gonna run your off.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yep, yeah, Tommy, you're the best man.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I see. We had to finish it the same. Ay,
Now you get the first time. I'm excited about tomorrow night.
Now you get me a first.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well, we got to a great weekend to get you up.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I love you guys.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Thanks to love you tom Thanks Friday, Love you man.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Friday Football Frenzy continues next with our picks for the
week on the fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's a big