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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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voice of FC Cincinnati, the Orange Blue. Tom Gallander is
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joining us. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Tony telling it?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Told he feels like it's been a lifetime since I
heard those dulcit tones in my ear drums on a Friday,
and we are we are just tossing this thing upside down.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's not two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, no, it's twelve thirty, twelve thirty.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You're you know, Bengals training I should have I should
have grabbed my bag lunch and come pull it up
at Bengals training camp and done this line because I
gotta get to the airport here quickly. We couldn't do
our normal two o'clock slot, So I appreciate you guys
with everything going on accommodating me.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Look, you know you could have made your way down
and we're right on the way to the airport. But
can you tell me what's going on. Are their inmates
running the asylum in Major League Soccer right now? Is
leono MESSI gonna play? Are there sanctions coming down? What
do we know, Tommy?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I mean talk about a storyline that is captivating the
American soccer audience at this moment, including yours truly and
apparently the two of you and and many others on
social media. I don't think anybody knows much of anything
at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, both coaches spoke.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
This morning and had different messages. Bat Newton said, well,
the rules are the rules, right, I can read the rules,
and so I would expect them to be suspended. And
from the Miami camp hoab here it was like, I
expect them to play. They've played more than anybody, so
they should have an exception and I expect them to play.
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You know, my probably tells me that they play. I
think that'll be the case. But you know, I think
that if the rules are that, you blow up the
also game and don't have a legitimate injury. And this
happened with Lockdown a couple of years ago. If you
remember twenty eighteen All Star Game, he just didn't want
to go and he was suspended and in classics lot
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time formed. You know, he said something along the lines of,
you know, well, I'm much bigger than that game or
this league and everybody here, so it's fine, I'll take
my day.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Off and I'll be back and you all love me,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
So it'll be very interesting here to see if we
know more by the time we land in Miami. So
it's supposed to get down there, but four, you know,
I'll be very intrigued to see kind of where we stand.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
On that ruling.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But listen, the reality is at Cincinnati they defeated Miami,
you know, nine days ago with with Lionel Messi and
Jordie Alba out there, and the game plan was pretty
flawless and executed perfectly, and you know they're.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Gonna have to do that again no matter who's playing.
And that's just the reality.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well that that's what I was gonna ask. How much
do you now rely on nine days ago? Because if
that's not the case, you're going into a game blind.
How do you prepare, not knowing if they're going to
be two major contributors playing for a team or not
based on a suspension or not. So how much do
you now just have to if you're popping down noon
and rely on what you were just able to do
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from a game plan standpoint against Inner Miami.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, I mean I think look first and foremost, like
you know, Miami is not gonna fundamentally change what they do,
you know, based on who is or is not.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Out on the pitch at least, I don't think they're
going to.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And f C Cincinnati knows like the style of play
to expect that they're gonna see from Miami, and you
know the way they have to be patient and capitalize
on the champions where they get them, even if they're
few and far between. You know that that still has
to be the game plan from an fc CINCNETI standpoint.
And reality is and I think this is true across
sport well beyond Suckers that you know, even if it
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wasn't a storyline right now, you're still preparing for more.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Than a levens that are starting to match. Anything could change.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I mean, in the in the game at t Quos Dedium,
the goalkeeper changed, right, so now maybe he you know,
there's different tendencies between the two guys, so you know,
at halftime, maybe make some adjustments on how you're attacking
a goalkeeper. But there's not you know, there's not anything
that they're not prepared for, I don't think, and they
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just have to, you know, stick to what they did
and kind of, I mean, the good news is that
game was so recently, just a week and a half ago,
Like let's not forget what worked really really well in
that game and and try to replicate it. I joked
with Pat, or he joke with me when I asked him,
you know, how do you limit your opportunities or the
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opportunities on the ball for Lionel Messi? He was like, Tommy,
if I had that answer, likew bottle it up and
sell it like I'd be I'd be the first manager
to ever figure that out.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right. But the reality is they they didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Give him, you know, uh, an ordinate amount of opportunities
in that game at Tiquos at him. And I think
again that that Pat's message afterwards was playing as a team.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And so if you're s C.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Cincinnati with whoever's out there, again, remember let's let's do
these exact.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Same things that we did.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Doesn't mean you're gonna win, but it means you're gonna
put yourself in a position to compete and get a result,
and I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
What's it say about this team? You mentioned the win
against Miami. It obviously came on the heels of a
loss and a disappointing loss to Columbus. But as we've
seen with the resolve of this team before, they go
through a disappointing, difficult loss in Hell is Real, and
then they come back and they dominate Miami, and then
you come back and you get to win against Rial
Salt Lake. So what does it say about this team
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and their performance to be able to put the bad
ones behind them and then get moving forward right and
continue to put the gether are three points when when
you take the pitch.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, I mean, listen, we've been doing these these conversations,
what three three four years every Friday, you know, since
Pat took over, and I don't think there's been many
times that we've talked about, you know, consecutive losses or
a losing streak. You know, we talked about a tough
stretch at the end of May, and certainly what needed
to be fixed in that regards, But these teams tend
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to have that resolve and tend to bounce back under
Paton and and the way that they have responded, because
certainly all of the disappointment, everything about that Columbus game
was disappointing, right, And then you you give up four
goals to your arrival, and you come back with back
to back clean sheets and and one of those is
against Miami and Messi and his friends, and in dominant fashion,
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three nail.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And then you go to you know, a.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Tough place to play at Salt Lake, against a team
that was very much in for him, and you get
another clean sheet and you win one nail.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think I think he says a lot about this team.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And you know, therefore, due to their results and their
resolve and the way they bounce back their top of
the table in the whole league, right where they deserve
to be.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But the margin of air right now going on in
the Eastern Conference and in the MLS standings as it is,
and I don't know, and you'd know more than I
how much of the players paying attention game in and
game out to where they are in the standings. But
if you look, FC Cincinnati has been red hot outside
of the Columbus match, they have forty eight points. They're
only a point clear off Nashville and Philadelphia. There are
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four points clear of the Columbus crew inner Miami's at
forty one, but they have multiple matches still to make up.
Just talk about the East as a whole right now,
and how small that margin of air really is.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
There's none, right that's just the out of the Ask
Philadelphia they stumble a little bit, they're no longer in
the first place. If c Cincinnati stumbled tomorrow night, someone's
gonna jump them because everybody's right there behind them, like
you just lifted off. So the reality is for the
top five teams, there is no margin and I'm gonna
include Miami there because just like you said, they have
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three games in hand, So you could do the math.
If they win those three games in hand they have
on Cincinnati, they're ahead of Cincinnati. Even if you know
they they went out like the rest of us, say
they draw this one, then they'd be seven points apart.
But Miami would still three games in hand and both
teams went out, They're not gonna play each other again.
Both teams went out the rest of the year, Miami
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would jump them in the standings because they have those
extra games that they're gonna have to play, So yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
There's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I don't know how much the guys are paying attention,
but I'm sure they're very much aware of it. You know,
you're at the point the season, there's ten games left
in the regular season, like it's it's game on now,
and everybody wants to win that supporter Shield. They know
what comes with that, the number one overall, see the
home field advantage, so on and so forth. So no,
I think that I think guys are aware of the standings.
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They have a board in the facility that that shows
the Eastern Conference, So certainly that board is up there
after every match and c Cinni's on top of it.
Right now, that's really want to be in October going
into the playoffs. Well, you know, there's work to be had,
and are they gonna stub their toe at some point?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Probably, I mean, the a heck of a story. If
they win all these games the rest of the way,
they certainly you know that that will guarantee you in
the supporter Shield. I guess, except this this Miami game.
You know, we'll see what happens here. But you know,
if if they do that, then yeah, they they'll be
in a really good spot, but uh yeah, there's gonna
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be so much juggling. I think of these positions the
rest of the way that a team that's in fourth
one week should probably still win the Supportership, and the
team that's at first could end up as a four
seed in the East or a five seed to be honest,
based on on what Miami could do with those extra games.
So yeah, I think it's a it's a wild ride,
and I think it it shapes up if you think
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about it to probably be I'm trying to think, you know,
since f C Cincinnati's been in the league, if there's
been an Eastern Conference this deep, with this many different
with five different teams that could win the conference, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I don't think that's been the case for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
How do you balance because it's not a you know
the the game plan itself. They just played each other
nine days ago, so you kind of know the matchup
and what you got to do to come away with
a win. How do you balance? You mentioned ten games
left in the MLS season. How do you balance You
want to go in for the supporter Shield, but you
also want to make sure as you get to the
playoffs that you're playing at your best, but you're also
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playing at your healthiest and you're fresh and your most
fresh as well. So how do you balance that if
you're Pat noonan of all of those things that kind
of come together when everything is so congested in the standings.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I think and I think that's a I mean, first,
that's a good question, and second, you know, I think
it's a difficult balance a little bit right now because
of some of the injuries the team has had, you know,
was reported today and I saw them out there and
are at Chinik it's here.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't that he'll travel.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We'll see, you know if he's on the plane here
in about an hour or so when we bought a plane.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Uh, but you know he's he's now coming in and
provide some depth on the right side for Pat. So
that's good.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I think now the window open up yesterday. I think
you still need midfield depth. You have obing a Wobedo
who's not gonna go on the season any injury list,
but he is gonna be out basically to the.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
End of the season.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But getting ob Eu Wobedo back for the playoffs will
be pretty awesome. So that's why he doesn't land on
the on the season ending injury list. But in the meantime,
Brian and Ngun Pavel Buko workhorses right now, but you
can't wear them out and then have either of them
lost for the playoffs or the end of the season
when you're trying to win a supporter shield. So I
think you really need to get you know, a midfield
piece in to add some depth there, and then you're
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probably gonna bring in one more attacking piece, would be
my guess. But Chris Albright, I haven't even seen him
because I'd assume that he's up in the office on
the phone or he's out recruiting, you know, trying to
trying to get guys here back to the Queens City
to sign with the club. So yeah, I think, uh,
it's a very tough balance and and something that uh,
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you know, Pat's gonna have to to manage and that's
gonna be a big part of the job, you know,
beyond you know, the tactics of winning games is managing
the guys. And and look, every team, including you know,
professional soccer at this point has just amazing technical staff
with with the physios and the trainers, and the massage
therapists and and all the all the data that they get,
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I mean, soccer is unique, and that they wear the
GPS trackers and gives them a lot of information on
on miles.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Ran and all that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So philteen and that staff are gonna be working really
hard to you know, look at guys week in week
out whether a workload is for the season, and make
sure that they're managing it right because you want to
have a big run come October November and and play
into December for that NASCAR.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And Uh, it's an organization that's obviously never read scene,
always looking to get better. Tommy, I would be remissed
before I let you go if I didn't ask, Uh
the unveiling of the new Brown's helmet, seeing the video,
seeing the video angles, was that staged for the cameraman
to go off the side of that? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Why absolutely listen, Why well what are you guys doing?
Because what I mean, everybody's talking about it, right, it worked.
I mean everybody's talking.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Literally, it was on every outlet, every notification.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Everybody's sending it to me, Oh this.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Is hilarious, blah blah blah blah blah, Like I mean,
do I agree with that strategy? I don't know, like
not necessarily, but it did the job. I mean, the
guy who fell in, isn't he some isn't he some
famous YouTuber or influencer. I mean I looked up the
guy and fell in. He had like seven hundred thousand followers.
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So like, obviously they didn't put that guy on the
raft to just stand there.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Would you ever direct your people at fourth floor Creative
to fall into Lake Erie?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Not any water like nonetheless, I mean, but but but again,
this is why it's different stage.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Like the camera angle was so clear, right, yeah, Like
if I'm watching.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It on TV and that's my crew on the on
the raft and I see one of my guys going
the water, I'm like, call my insurance company and just
asking for the check, just assuming that the camera and
we're not gonna get like a crystal clear like so
obviously they it had like a water case out of it.
I don't know exactly what he had in his hand,
but uh he whatever you had was waterproof. Yeah, and
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you know what's what's set up for the whole thing.
So look, I mean, look here we are at twelve
forty five on Friday in Cincinnati talking. I'm talking about
it when New York were talking about it. If people
in California you're talking about it, and you know, they're
not talking about who the starting quarterback is.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So I just had that conversation. My nephew's in town.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
He's a he's a big quarterback down there in South Carolina,
and he's grilling me. Uh, you know, he's a high schooler.
He's asking me, uh, who's gonna be the start a
quarterback for uh, for the Browns?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And you know nobody know. But but think about it.
Here's my question for you, Tony, Like think about it
and and and for both of you, Like when.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Can you think of the NFL team that open camp
with with four names that could be QB one on
week one?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right, It's insane, it's insane.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And like if they all.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Push each other, which it seems to be the case, right,
I mean unless they're all terrible, right, but if if
that's true, if they're all pushing each other, then you
gonna have a trade piece for.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
One of them.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I would think, Yeah, I don't act like you to
be able to like you didn't spend some camps at
higher ground where there was about seven on the depth chart.
Tommy all vying for a job.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, you're on the depth chart right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh, Tommy, you're the man.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That might get you out thrown on my nephew, watch out,
get your case. You can see his arms. See let
me go.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Let me know, South Beach, Tommy coming up this weekend.
That's a different time.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Name got the ban. I'll see all. I'll be down, Tom,
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Thanks back points, sure, cheers, cheers. That's Tom Gallader, the
voice of FC Cincinnati. I'm so glad he puts up
with us every week.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He is so awesome. Man.
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