August 1, 2025 • 12 mins
Tony talks with Bob Mangine from UC and NovaCare on ESPN 1530!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back since he three sixty thanks to Penn Station
Moving along Hour number two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station Friday, Hour three, we get the guy to
talk to our guy, Bob man Jean from the University
of Cincinnati and Novacare who is kind enough with his
time to join us today. Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
How are you and Tony? We just walked off the
court for our last practice for summer summer basketball, and
now the kids get a little bit of a break
and we can focus on, you know, getting ready for
the season as soon as we come back on the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So what's that mean for you? You get a little time
off now, Bob, Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Couple of days, Tony got to you know, get a
couple day break, and then we got to treat the
guys who have some lumps, rumps and bruises and then
start focusing on trying to you know, win the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How much from a from an off season standpoint, how
much has the off season changed from maybe just years
ago or a decade ago, the work that these guys
were able to do or what they're able to get
in with the coaching staff or on their own during
the off season.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Now, it's kind of funny. I started in this sport
or in this profession in college years ago, where summer,
you know, the kids never stayed at all. I mean,
as soon as school was over, spring, football was over,
basketball was over. The kids kind of scattered throughout the
country depending on where they were from, and only the
kids that lived in Pittsburgh or Cincinnati at the two
(01:27):
schools I've been at, would work out on campus. And
then once the NCAA made that decision, I think it
was around two thousand and two or two thousand and
three to where football first, it was football could stay
on campus all summer as long as the kids took classes,
and now it's football, women's basketball, men's basketball, and volleyball,
and pretty much if they wanted to, could stay on
(01:49):
campus twelve months a year, and you had periods where
you have eight weeks of discretionary in the summer. But again,
the kids are so locked in. You know, even when
you're a voluntary week, they're over here shooting or voluntarily
lifting and getting treated. So you know, the summers are
you know, aren't what they used to be. You know,
the kids are here, the coaches are here, wait, strength
(02:13):
and conditionings here. So it's turned into a full time
job for the kids for the most part. You know,
we get to maybe we'll get two weeks. We're in
this two week period, but most of the kids will
be back within a week shooting or lifting with coach
Ray fell voluntarily and then the next thing, you know,
the seasons upon you. I mean, we're I think we're
a little under fourteen weeks now from the first game
(02:35):
on November three, So you got you gotta pretty much
you know, lock in all year around.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Now, I want to talk to you, ask you today
about something going on at Bengals training camp for Maris
Mims missed practice yesterday. He sat out of a couple
of drills the day before.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
This.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Of course, the uh the right tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Last year Week seventeen, he broke his hand against the Broncos.
This year, he was seen with a rap an ice
on his hand and wrist area, and Zach Taylor talked
about early on in camp, you're monitoring some minor injury
things with some of the players, so you're airing on
the side of caution, no doubt, and it's nothing being
(03:15):
reported to freak out about if you're a Cincinnati Bengal fan.
But I am curious the conversations that happen in a
setting like this where you still are over a month
away from from playing in meaningful football games, or you
could equate it to basketball doing offseason work. What are
the conversations like from a trainer and a coach when discussing, okay,
maybe we should hold a guy out, just share on
(03:38):
the side of caution, versus if it were a game week,
you'd probably be pushing that player to play a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, again, it's a hand injury, so you can keep
them conditioning, you can do drills with them, non contact
like contact. You just don't want him to go full speed,
you know, having to take the bright force of the
defensive any crashing down or we're one on one with
a d tackle. So I mean, for the most part,
you're gonna protect it, keep them in a splint, or
(04:06):
even make him something even more immobile so that he can,
you know, again be protected. Again, you've got four more weeks,
You've got plenty of time to get him into playing shape,
maybe even have him do you know, one scrimmage down
the line at least that's what we would do, you
know here at the university. So I mean, and the
(04:27):
other thing. In today's world, there are so many different
I mean, really, Tony, if you came in some days
to the training room, we have these three D fabrication
machines now that you just take a three D print
of the hand or the wrist and it fabricates exactly
what you want and you can you can kind of
(04:49):
alter it. So it's not like the old days where
we would have to use either plaster or some heavy
splinting material. Nowadays, these machines can can fabric It's something
that's very functional, very position specific, and it's like it's unbelievable.
I've seen Aaron Hmmler are a head football trainer, you know,
(05:10):
several times. Some of this stuff that they've manufactured with
the unit that we've got is just insighte night and
day from even five years ago. So you know, there's
a lot of things he can do while he's still
you know, taking mental reps. And I'm a real big,
big believer, and you know, if the guy's not practicing,
I don't care what sports, sitting there and making sure
(05:34):
making sure that you've got mental repscoring.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I wonder we often talk about, obviously, the conversation
that coaches are having amongst themselves when you're talking about
preseason games and how much to play a guy. Are
coaches having those same types of meetings with the training staff,
because as a training staff, you're dealing with these players
on a daily basis, you know, whether it's a bump
or a bruise, or an ache or something that you
want to monitor, or maybe something even more serious. As
(06:00):
much as the coaches talk amongst each other and probably
get opinions from the players as well, how much time
are the coaches spending with the trainers leading up to
let's say, preseason game number one on Okay, this might
be a guy that you want to hold back for
another week.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh every day, I mean every day, multiple times a day.
You know, you're having morning meetings, night meetings with the
coaching staff, with the sports medicine staff and saying, hey,
this is where he is, let's plan this for tomorrow.
You're literally taking it day in and day out. And
you know, when you let him actually take reps or practice,
(06:36):
you know, again, it depends on experience. You know. My
favorite story is, you know when I was working with
Carson Palmer and the fact that finally decided to let
him play in the last scrimmage of the season for
a couple of quarters, and then he still turned around
and started the Kansas City game after he had that
knee injury. So you're talking to them all the time,
(06:58):
and you know, multiple full times a day. I've already
talked to West like three times today or by kids
and where they are. So and you're on the field
with the coaches as well, so you can make adjustments
as you're going through practices. And that's really a very
critical part is the fact that the training staff is
watching these guys loans during practice and you can make adjustments.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I am I'm curious, Bob. Have you been following along
with anything going on at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.
Has Aaron Rodgers thrown a touchdown past this camp or
has it all been negative?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well? You're really digging it in deep, aren't you, Duke,
And absolutely yeah, I'm reading the stories every day.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And Keith in an eye steeler expert, I need to
know what's going on in the ANFC.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Nor he's he's doing pretty well. And I think with
DK Metcalf and the other wide receiver they brought in.
He's got some good targets. They don't have that guy
they had last year who you know again uh had issues.
I'll put it like that. So there's very very big
(08:10):
time hope for for the uh you know Steelers.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Fair enough, I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
My last My last thing is about the foundation, Tony,
real quick. We have a big lou lou ou on
Saturday over at Receptions in Erlanger. If anybody is interested
in going go to the One Shot Foundation. It's a
fundraiser and a free educational experience where we're doing uh
(08:37):
where we're going to do a U take ten session
and educational session because it's that time of year where
you know, we want to look out for our student athletes,
high school, elementary school, wreck kids on the on the
fields and courts, uh in order to keep them safe.
So we have big, a big deal on Saturday night
(08:58):
over in Erlanger Receptions, as I said, And if you
go online to the One Shot Foundation, tickets are still available.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I know you have the Matthew Manngen Junior One Shot
Foundation obviously is what we're talking about. I know, I
believe the Birthday Bash is coming up in October as well.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Correct, Yes, yep, birthday bash will be. The announcement will
be coming up about that fairly soon and we will
keep everybody up to date when it is. And so far,
the foundation has had really major impacts in both high
school legislation, educating oh, I don't know, probably close to
(09:35):
eighty thousand maybe more people, and actually looking at some
of our data lately on the aeeds that have been provided,
there are three saves that were we know of right now,
so three people survive their son kardiaking thanks to the
efforts of Matt and Kim and all the people with
(09:58):
the foundation.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Bob you are You're the absolute best. I appreciate everything
from you. I was able yesterday. It was such an
awesome day with with the UC Hall of Fame announcement.
But I can honestly say, and I'll get into this
further as as the event gets closer, but of so
many people that I have to thank. I know we
joke around, but I am I am nowhere close to
(10:21):
being able to get that announcement that I got yesterday.
If you weren't able to uh to do all the work,
you were able to do with me and keep me
on the field, essentially holding my body together while I
was at UC SO, I I do. We joke a bunch,
but I genuinely, genuinely appreciate you and everything you've done
for me to to put me in the position where
i'm I'm able to be in now.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, thank you Tony for that. And I can honestly
say your years here were super fun years. We had
a great time together. We won a lot of games.
We took this school. You're your you guys, and your
team took this school to places that nobody in this
city ever thought that you see would be at. When
(11:04):
we went to that first Orange Bowl game, nothing gets me.
Gave me chills and net bus ride if you remember,
because we were all on bus one and I don't
know how many fans are there, but to see that
it just still gives me chills.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah. I again, I appreciate everything you've done for me.
I appreciate you joining us each and every week, and
I look forward to talking to you again next week.
That's Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and
Novacare Bob, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Thank you, Tony. Have a great weekend. You and Austin.
And you know, I'll try to keep up with Burrow,
But will my guys have any good camp?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
YEP, I get it, I get it. Thank you, Bob,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Thanks guys, you too.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
When it comes to your physical well being, you want
a physical therapist you can trust. That's Novacare Rehabilitation. Novacare
has been the exclusive physical therapy and athletic training provider
to the Bearcats for over twenty years. So go to
novacare dot com to request an appointment today. The Bearcats
trust Novacare, so can you? Since E three sixty more
to come next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station
Welcome back since he three sixty thanks to Penn Station
Moving along Hour number two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station Friday, Hour three, we get the guy to
talk to our guy, Bob man Jean from the University
of Cincinnati and Novacare who is kind enough with his
time to join us today. Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
How are you and Tony? We just walked off the
court for our last practice for summer summer basketball, and
now the kids get a little bit of a break
and we can focus on, you know, getting ready for
the season as soon as we come back on the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So what's that mean for you? You get a little time
off now, Bob, Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Couple of days, Tony got to you know, get a
couple day break, and then we got to treat the
guys who have some lumps, rumps and bruises and then
start focusing on trying to you know, win the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How much from a from an off season standpoint, how
much has the off season changed from maybe just years
ago or a decade ago, the work that these guys
were able to do or what they're able to get
in with the coaching staff or on their own during
the off season.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Now, it's kind of funny. I started in this sport
or in this profession in college years ago, where summer,
you know, the kids never stayed at all. I mean,
as soon as school was over, spring, football was over,
basketball was over. The kids kind of scattered throughout the
country depending on where they were from, and only the
kids that lived in Pittsburgh or Cincinnati at the two
(01:27):
schools I've been at, would work out on campus. And
then once the NCAA made that decision, I think it
was around two thousand and two or two thousand and
three to where football first, it was football could stay
on campus all summer as long as the kids took classes,
and now it's football, women's basketball, men's basketball, and volleyball,
and pretty much if they wanted to, could stay on
(01:49):
campus twelve months a year, and you had periods where
you have eight weeks of discretionary in the summer. But again,
the kids are so locked in. You know, even when
you're a voluntary week, they're over here shooting or voluntarily
lifting and getting treated. So you know, the summers are
you know, aren't what they used to be. You know,
the kids are here, the coaches are here, wait, strength
(02:13):
and conditionings here. So it's turned into a full time
job for the kids for the most part. You know,
we get to maybe we'll get two weeks. We're in
this two week period, but most of the kids will
be back within a week shooting or lifting with coach
Ray fell voluntarily and then the next thing, you know,
the seasons upon you. I mean, we're I think we're
a little under fourteen weeks now from the first game
(02:35):
on November three, So you got you gotta pretty much
you know, lock in all year around.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Now, I want to talk to you, ask you today
about something going on at Bengals training camp for Maris
Mims missed practice yesterday. He sat out of a couple
of drills the day before.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
This.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Of course, the uh the right tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Last year Week seventeen, he broke his hand against the Broncos.
This year, he was seen with a rap an ice
on his hand and wrist area, and Zach Taylor talked
about early on in camp, you're monitoring some minor injury
things with some of the players, so you're airing on
the side of caution, no doubt, and it's nothing being
(03:15):
reported to freak out about if you're a Cincinnati Bengal fan.
But I am curious the conversations that happen in a
setting like this where you still are over a month
away from from playing in meaningful football games, or you
could equate it to basketball doing offseason work. What are
the conversations like from a trainer and a coach when discussing, okay,
maybe we should hold a guy out, just share on
(03:38):
the side of caution, versus if it were a game week,
you'd probably be pushing that player to play a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, again, it's a hand injury, so you can keep
them conditioning, you can do drills with them, non contact
like contact. You just don't want him to go full speed,
you know, having to take the bright force of the
defensive any crashing down or we're one on one with
a d tackle. So I mean, for the most part,
you're gonna protect it, keep them in a splint, or
(04:06):
even make him something even more immobile so that he can,
you know, again be protected. Again, you've got four more weeks,
You've got plenty of time to get him into playing shape,
maybe even have him do you know, one scrimmage down
the line at least that's what we would do, you
know here at the university. So I mean, and the
(04:27):
other thing. In today's world, there are so many different
I mean, really, Tony, if you came in some days
to the training room, we have these three D fabrication
machines now that you just take a three D print
of the hand or the wrist and it fabricates exactly
what you want and you can you can kind of
(04:49):
alter it. So it's not like the old days where
we would have to use either plaster or some heavy
splinting material. Nowadays, these machines can can fabric It's something
that's very functional, very position specific, and it's like it's unbelievable.
I've seen Aaron Hmmler are a head football trainer, you know,
(05:10):
several times. Some of this stuff that they've manufactured with
the unit that we've got is just insighte night and
day from even five years ago. So you know, there's
a lot of things he can do while he's still
you know, taking mental reps. And I'm a real big,
big believer, and you know, if the guy's not practicing,
I don't care what sports, sitting there and making sure
(05:34):
making sure that you've got mental repscoring.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I wonder we often talk about, obviously, the conversation
that coaches are having amongst themselves when you're talking about
preseason games and how much to play a guy. Are
coaches having those same types of meetings with the training staff,
because as a training staff, you're dealing with these players
on a daily basis, you know, whether it's a bump
or a bruise, or an ache or something that you
want to monitor, or maybe something even more serious. As
(06:00):
much as the coaches talk amongst each other and probably
get opinions from the players as well, how much time
are the coaches spending with the trainers leading up to
let's say, preseason game number one on Okay, this might
be a guy that you want to hold back for
another week.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh every day, I mean every day, multiple times a day.
You know, you're having morning meetings, night meetings with the
coaching staff, with the sports medicine staff and saying, hey,
this is where he is, let's plan this for tomorrow.
You're literally taking it day in and day out. And
you know, when you let him actually take reps or practice,
(06:36):
you know, again, it depends on experience. You know. My
favorite story is, you know when I was working with
Carson Palmer and the fact that finally decided to let
him play in the last scrimmage of the season for
a couple of quarters, and then he still turned around
and started the Kansas City game after he had that
knee injury. So you're talking to them all the time,
(06:58):
and you know, multiple full times a day. I've already
talked to West like three times today or by kids
and where they are. So and you're on the field
with the coaches as well, so you can make adjustments
as you're going through practices. And that's really a very
critical part is the fact that the training staff is
watching these guys loans during practice and you can make adjustments.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I am I'm curious, Bob. Have you been following along
with anything going on at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.
Has Aaron Rodgers thrown a touchdown past this camp or
has it all been negative?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well? You're really digging it in deep, aren't you, Duke,
And absolutely yeah, I'm reading the stories every day.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And Keith in an eye steeler expert, I need to
know what's going on in the ANFC.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Nor he's he's doing pretty well. And I think with
DK Metcalf and the other wide receiver they brought in.
He's got some good targets. They don't have that guy
they had last year who you know again uh had issues.
I'll put it like that. So there's very very big
(08:10):
time hope for for the uh you know Steelers.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Fair enough, I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
My last My last thing is about the foundation, Tony,
real quick. We have a big lou lou ou on
Saturday over at Receptions in Erlanger. If anybody is interested
in going go to the One Shot Foundation. It's a
fundraiser and a free educational experience where we're doing uh
(08:37):
where we're going to do a U take ten session
and educational session because it's that time of year where
you know, we want to look out for our student athletes,
high school, elementary school, wreck kids on the on the
fields and courts, uh in order to keep them safe.
So we have big, a big deal on Saturday night
(08:58):
over in Erlanger Receptions, as I said, And if you
go online to the One Shot Foundation, tickets are still available.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I know you have the Matthew Manngen Junior One Shot
Foundation obviously is what we're talking about. I know, I
believe the Birthday Bash is coming up in October as well.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Correct, Yes, yep, birthday bash will be. The announcement will
be coming up about that fairly soon and we will
keep everybody up to date when it is. And so far,
the foundation has had really major impacts in both high
school legislation, educating oh, I don't know, probably close to
(09:35):
eighty thousand maybe more people, and actually looking at some
of our data lately on the aeeds that have been provided,
there are three saves that were we know of right now,
so three people survive their son kardiaking thanks to the
efforts of Matt and Kim and all the people with
(09:58):
the foundation.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Bob you are You're the absolute best. I appreciate everything
from you. I was able yesterday. It was such an
awesome day with with the UC Hall of Fame announcement.
But I can honestly say, and I'll get into this
further as as the event gets closer, but of so
many people that I have to thank. I know we
joke around, but I am I am nowhere close to
(10:21):
being able to get that announcement that I got yesterday.
If you weren't able to uh to do all the work,
you were able to do with me and keep me
on the field, essentially holding my body together while I
was at UC SO, I I do. We joke a bunch,
but I genuinely, genuinely appreciate you and everything you've done
for me to to put me in the position where
i'm I'm able to be in now.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, thank you Tony for that. And I can honestly
say your years here were super fun years. We had
a great time together. We won a lot of games.
We took this school. You're your you guys, and your
team took this school to places that nobody in this
city ever thought that you see would be at. When
(11:04):
we went to that first Orange Bowl game, nothing gets me.
Gave me chills and net bus ride if you remember,
because we were all on bus one and I don't
know how many fans are there, but to see that
it just still gives me chills.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah. I again, I appreciate everything you've done for me.
I appreciate you joining us each and every week, and
I look forward to talking to you again next week.
That's Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and
Novacare Bob, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Thank you, Tony. Have a great weekend. You and Austin.
And you know, I'll try to keep up with Burrow,
But will my guys have any good camp?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
YEP, I get it, I get it. Thank you, Bob,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Thanks guys, you too.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
When it comes to your physical well being, you want
a physical therapist you can trust. That's Novacare Rehabilitation. Novacare
has been the exclusive physical therapy and athletic training provider
to the Bearcats for over twenty years. So go to
novacare dot com to request an appointment today. The Bearcats
trust Novacare, so can you? Since E three sixty more
to come next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station
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