Cincy 360 w/ Tony Pike & Austin Elmore -- 6/27/25

Tony and Austin talk with Charlie Goldsmith, Tom Gelehrter, Mo Egger, Bob Mangine, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, yep, yep, come on, come on.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Happy Friday. Welcome in CINCI three six, ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports Station. Go Bucks, thanks to Skyline Chiley. Thanks

(01:12):
for listening on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Also
via the iHeartRadio app. How about today? Do we even
have enough time? Or is our two Austin just gonna
be giveaways? We've got to give away two SINSI search
gift cards today. Wow, we've got aw tickets ae w.
We've got Red's Marlins with old Dominion tickets to give away. Right,

(01:35):
that's four giveaways and our number two alone for of
them things. How are we gonna make time to do that?
We'll figure it out. We got talkbacks an hour two.
Charlie Goldsmith is gonna kick off our number two. Tom gallairdir,
the voice of FC Cincinnati, will kick off our number three.
There is a track record. Now, there is hard evidence

(01:56):
that when we talked to Tommy on a Friday, good
things happen to the Orange and Blue. FC Cincinnati heads
to Orlando today to take on Orlando City FC. Tomorrow,
we'll talk to Tom Gletter about all that, and our
guy Bob Manjean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare
will join us in hour number three as well, before

(02:16):
we wrap up the show and the week with Moegger
for quick Hits later this afternoon. Now, I want to
talk to Bob today, Austin. We had a poll question
earlier in the week about would you prefer extremely hot
temperatures or extremely cold? And I believe cold ran away
with it, right, Yeah, I think so. Well, I want

(02:37):
to talk to Bob from his point of view as
a trainer, would you rather deal with hot temperatures or
cold temperatures? And maybe what to look out for when
the temperatures get as high as they are right now.
So that is pretty much your second and your third
hour today, meaning you the listener, and if you are
a caller, you want to get your phone calls in

(02:58):
an hour number one, I've won three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty. I have some thoughts on UC football that
we didn't get to yesterday. Red's padres in action starting
tonight at the ballpark. It's a big weekend at the ballpark, Austin.
The big Red machines in town. Yes, the machine is here.

(03:18):
They will be honored all throughout the weekend. We'll dive
into what that is going to look like like. I
just turned country real quick. That's going to look like
what that'll look like tonight, tomorrow and Sunday. And Richard
Skinner from Local twelve he put together a list. I
don't know if you read this or not, Austin, but
it was essentially yesterday major League Baseball. We're reaching the

(03:41):
halfway point of the season or just crossing the halfway
point in the season, and Skinny came up with an
article about the three best things from the first half
of the season and the three worst things from the
first half of the season. And I want to dive
into some maybe what we think in our number one
and throw it with what Skinny had to say. And

(04:02):
what I'm looking for is, ultimately, when you look at
where the Reds are at right now, does the good
we've seen at forty two and thirty nine outweigh the
bad we've seen at forty two and thirty nine. Because
what I'm looking for is sustainability. What about the first

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half of the red season is sustainable? Where are their
bigger issues lying? For the Cincinnati Reds. Because they were
off yesterday and reached the halfway point, we can look
back and talk about some of those things today as
well other tops top sports stories that are happening right
now across the sports world. Justin Tucker, the former kicker

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for the Baltimore Ravens, has been suspended for the first
ten weeks of the regular season after an NFL found
that he had violated the Personal conduct Policy. The league
announced on Thursday. He can serve his suspension as a
free agent and is free to sign with an NFL team.
If he were to sign with an NFL team, he
could attend their training camp and play in the preseason games,

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but he was Essentially he's been accused of sexual misconduct
by sixteen massage therapists from high end spas and wellness
centers in the Baltimore area. That is the latest on
Justin Tucker. Did you keep up at all Austin over
the last two days with the NBA Draft? Very little
did you watch it all last night? No, I didn't neither.

(05:35):
I didn't see any bear Cats get drafted. I didn't
watch anything. Johnny Broom got drafted the All American from Auburn, Okay.
He was taken in the second round by the Philadelphia
seventy six ers.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
It's funny that the names that you're actually recognized from
college basketball either signed two way contracts as undrafted free
Asians or get drafted late in the second round.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yep, I mean Johnny Broom's player of the year at
college basketball. Yeah, wasn't a first round pick by any means.
It's just I think it goes to show how different
the NBA is. It goes to show the athleticism and
the players. I mean, I'm always I always marvel Austin

(06:18):
in the NBA draft when you see someone drafted and
you're like, that player average like six points a game,
but the athleticism and the upside. I mean Ace Bailey
and Dylan Harper both played for Rutgers Austin. Harper was
drafted second overall, as Bailey was drafted fifth, and they
won eight games in the Big Ten. This year, they

(06:39):
had two lottery picks and won eight games. VJ. Edgecomb
from Baylor. I watched UC play Baylor and I wasn't
blown away by what he did with Baylor. He didn't
jump off the court when I watched them. Good player.

(07:01):
He was the number three pick overall. It's just I'm
always amazed when it gets to the NBA draft of
the players you see and you're like, wait a second,
that player played where I watched that player, No way
did I think that player was going to be a
lottery pick. Now everyone knew when you watch Cooper Flag like,

(07:22):
that's a lottery pick. He dominated the game. Trey Johnson,
who was a guard at Texas dominated, Yeah, that's a
lottery pick. There's some other guys in here. I'm scratching
my head, like, wait a second. Johnny Broom from Auburn
didn't go till thirty fifth. I mean, that is insane

(07:44):
to think about that. Kobe Brea, one of the best
shooters in the country, when middle of the second round
from the from the University of Kentucky to the Phoenix Suns.
Amari Williams was a Kentucky player as well that got
drafted by Boston. So it's good to follow a lot
with there's just not for me Austin as much interest
in the NBA draft as obviously the NFL draft, or

(08:06):
I guess even the Major League Baseball draft at this point,
I mean, would you follow you follow the NBA draft
closer than the MLB draft. I mean MLB hides their
draft essentially. I don't know if I do. Like I've
been more interested, I guess in college baseball lately, so
I kind of am a little bit more intrigued by that,

(08:26):
and the Reds have been picking towards the top so lately,
I guess I've been more into the Major League Baseball draft. Yeah,
but either one, Like, it's just hard to get into
because those dudes don't always have immediate impacts. Like the
draft class from last year is maybe one of the

(08:47):
best ever already, just how quickly they got to the
big leagues. I think there's eight players from the twenty
twenty four draft class that are already in the big leagues.
Chase Burns, I believe, was the eighth, and a couple
of them are. It's not just all pitchers, Like, there's
a couple of hitters too. I know one of them
had a walk off home run the other night, so yeah,

(09:07):
I mean that's happening. Maybe that's gonna happen more in
baseball as of late. But yeah, I just I don't
find myself with as much interest in the NBA draft
because I also don't understand it. I don't understand the picks. Well,
I don't understand the trades. I don't understand the rights.
I just I don't. I don't get it. Well, there's that,

(09:28):
and I think the one thing that always to me
held up held up the Major League Baseball draft was
you didn't just didn't see the players for years. And
to your point, now that you see them so quick,
starting to change. Yeah, now that you see them so quick,
it it does change that a little bit. Like last
year's draft, the twenty twenty four draft, the number one
overall pick was Zachary resa Char Okay, didn't hear anything

(09:52):
about him this year, right, Alex Saar, I know he
played for the Wizards this year was number two. I
know that Stefan Castle was the rookie of the year.
He was drafted fourth. But these names, like I watched
the NBA, I don't recognize Ron Holland, don't recognize of
what Donovan Klingon did this year. So it's just it's
hard unless you get a guy like Cooper Flag, which

(10:13):
is obviously going to I heard somebody dominate the head
they like who led the rookies in minutes last year?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And I had never heard the name of my life, right.
That's what's weird is like baseball and basketball are both
kind of top heavy sports in that, you know, it's
a little bit different for us because we have a
major league team here and so we're hyper focused on
the Reds and all that they do.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
But from like in a casual you know, like let's
say there's a city we don't have an NBA team.
Let's say there's a city out there that might have
an NBA team, they might not have an NBA team.
Let's say they don't have a baseball team. Like, how
many Reds players do they know?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
They know Tony and they know Aaron Judge, and they
know Paul Skins probably, and they know you know, maybe
Mookie Betts or Rafael Devers or somebody like that, Lindor Soto,
But like, how many Reds players could they name outside
of Elie de la Cruz. And it's the same thing

(11:13):
as like how many guys on the Charlotte Hornets. Could
you name right? How many guys on the Spurs outside
of Wimby? Could you name? And I think it's just
like basketball is like that too. You've got the top
of the top steph Lebron, Luca, Wimby, guys like that,
and then there's a big drop off because you don't
see as much of those other teams hardly at all,

(11:35):
because it's all both those leagues baseball and basketball are
all on rsn's regional sports networks, so you rarely see
them nationally. Same thing with you know, we were talking
about this the other day Sunday Night Baseball and ESPN.
In the national games, you only see a handful of teams,
so you only know players from those teams. Yeah, just
kind of strange, it does it? That makes sense?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Did you see what one of the best to do it,
the University of Cincinnati, is still doing at a very
high level. Did you check in at all with what
Zach Klaris is still doing with Winnipeg.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I had no idea that they were playing until I
saw your tweet this morning.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Winnipeg is now three and Ozer Zach Kilaris is thirty
six years old. He said in the postgame the post
game last night, that he feels like he's twenty five
still and the numbers he put up last night, Austin
listened to this.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
He's the Tom Brady of the Canadian football easily, right.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Easily last night twenty five to thirty for three thirty
four and three touchdowns, also rush for a touchdown. He's
he's a unicorn, man, let's go. He's he's making plays
still at such a high level. I always have wondered,
how have we not gotten him on the show? We're
gonna have to now I've I've always wondered though, and

(12:52):
I've never asked him. Has he ever had a chance
to come to the NFL? Yeah, I mean like if
you'd be a great question to ask him when you
get them on show. He's won MVPs, he's won championships
for the CFL, and he's done so year after year
after year. At any point did he get an opportunity

(13:14):
like hey, you want to come be compete for the
backup role here? And he was like, nah, I got
a good thing going here. Because I watched a last night,
I'm sure he's gotten calls highlights last night. That place
is packed. The atmosphere was fantastic in Winnipeg last night.
Surely he's better than Jeff driscoll. Right, thirty three thousand fans. Yeah,

(13:34):
came out last night. I'm as smart too. As soon
as hockey ends, they start the CFL boom right back
in no offseason and they got the Blue Jays plan.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Shout out to uh to Zach Kilaris man, we're gonna
get him on the show here soon. Yeah, we really should.
I have to, uh, I have to give a shout out.
And it's an unfortunate one because my uh my great
uncle passed away last week. Oh man, I'm sorry to
hear that. And I went out to Indiana last night
to go to his funeral and I left that last
night one some of the nicest people I've ever met

(14:06):
that came up that listened to the show, that talked
about how much Uncle Lou liked the show. And but
there was there was last night. I was like, man,
if I could live this way, every single person that
talked about my uncle last night talked about one how
great of an athlete he was. I heard a story
last night Austin he was playing softball, came up as

(14:28):
a left hander hit won like four hundred and ten feet,
and the next to bat came up as a right
hander and hit one four hundred feet like I did.
You did say the other day that he has a
case for the best Yes Pike athlete he was. He was,
I think the best athlete in the family. He served
the country or served our country. There were people there

(14:51):
last night that legitimately begged him to, like go try
out for the Reds when he got back.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
From the war.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
How so, how many people in your family have played
Division one college sports? Uh four four? Yep, any professionals
outside of himself, and Lou was not. Lou didn't play
in college, but lose. He was one of those guys.
Like every single thing he played he was good at,

(15:16):
Like from horseshoes to basketball to ping pong to baseball,
Like everything he did he was great at. But I
don't think I've ever been at something like that last night,
where every single person said the exact same thing about him,
like a great person, cared about his family, never met
someone that didn't like him, constantly wanted to make people laugh,

(15:37):
and uh thought, I at least wanted to mention now
that he has he has passed that he obviously had
a big role in shaping what I do. And you
know as as my grandpa's brother played a big role.
He would he would drive from Indiana at times to
watch my practices in high school. Wow, come in and
watch a practice, or bring his friends from Indiana down

(15:58):
to games when I was playing with UC and playing
at reading. So I wanted to give a special shout
out and obviously appreciate everything that he meant to so
many people as I learned more than I ever even
imagined last night and meeting so many of them. But
shout out to uh to everyone last night. There were
a lot of people Austin that came up that listened

(16:19):
to the show on the iHeartRadio Apple on the radio
radio because Lou would push them in that direction and
now they're fans of the show. So shout out to
everyone that I met last night. The weekend is here.
We'd like to have some fun on Fridays, We're gonna
talk the Red's first half of the season. Do you
have any big plans for the weekend, Austin, No, I

(16:40):
have to work all weekend. Oh.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
My biggest activity this weekend I think is taking my
roommate to the airport.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
How about list listen to this roommate says, Hey, you
got plans on Saturday, so I got to work. Blah
blah blah, b Yeah, can you take me to the airport?
I said, yeah, sure, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
He goes.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
My buddy just called. He said, a five book a flight,
him and his family will take care of everything else.
A week in Florida. Wow, I said, damn man, good
for you.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Dang.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
So I'm taking to the airport so I get the
place to myself for a week.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
So that's all right.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
But I have extra innings after Red's padres tomorrow night
down the Dial on seven hundred WLW and Sunday morning
Sports Talk.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's a big weekend for.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Nine am to noon in place of the Globe gallivanting
Ken Brew on seven WLW. So, yes, busy weekend. Not
a lot of plans.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I get to go to your old stomping grounds tomorrow
for the Richard Morgan Memorial golf outing at Avon Fields.
Oh really, you're going down to Avon. I get to
play Avon tomorrow. I was thinking about heading down there
tonight and maybe throwing the Reds on the radio and
hitting some golf balls. You go. You know what I'm
gonna do tonight. I'm gonna go see our friends at
Oakley Greens. Oh really, he can come over there and
put the ball around if you want, come hang out.

(17:58):
I like to hit like the Minissiles they got to
I think they got Missiles the Fields, the band the Fields.
So I've heard a couple of times they played there
tonight for their summer music series. I'm like, I'm gonna
go interesting. I just decided that today. I had a
moment kind of like that last night. I was actually
texting with you and Tommy g last night.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Oh yeah, I had a hankering for a chocolate chip
cookie man, unlike anything I've ever Unlike a craving I've
ever had in my life, to the point where I
thought I might have to take a pregnancy test. Why
am I feeling this way?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And as Tommy said last night and tom for a
hell of a segment on Friday.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
You would have.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So we were texting with Tommy about, you know, the
plan for the show today. And Tommy and I live
close to one another, sure, and so I said, Tommy,
is there anywhere around here I can get a chocolate
chip cookie. And he's like right now, I'm like, yes,
I'm in my car, can you help me? Yeah? But
I was able to get some chocolate chip cookies last night. Man,
did they now the problem was something like that? I

(18:59):
would say, she is if you are like you've been
in those like where you're just craving something so bad
that it sets a high bar. Did the cookies meet
the bar? Did they meet the expectations? They did? I
kind of was tempering my expectations because the place that
I went, I thought they would serve them like chilled,

(19:19):
but they served them warm. And that's what it's like
the red sign for Krispy Kreme. Because there have been
times and this was more when when Mary was pregnant
where she would get a hankering for something and she's
trying to eat a certain way and she's like, you
know what, screw it, let's go, let's go tonight, let's
get something greasy. And I'm not going to name the
place because I don't want to to bring them negativity,

(19:41):
but we had been there before and it was it's
what you It was like the greasy bar food type
where every now and then it just hits a good spot. Yeah,
and we went and it was awful. And there's nothing
worse than looking forward to like a cheat meal where
you're just gonna indulge. And so I'm glad it fulfilled
that need last night for you.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I have a story an hour number three as well,
Oh about something that I did last night right after work.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
It was a weird night.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's been a weird week for me, okay, like I'm
trying to find it today.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I'm just exhausted for something. Haven't been the heat, you're trained.
I haven't slept well like at all this week, struggling.
I think it's because it's so hot and trying not
to pay a three hundred dollars duke bill or that
because you don't want the air conditioning running all night.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
So I haven't been sleeping well. So it's been kind
of grumpy. Well the Friday since he three sixty Charlie,
just what Charlie will make me for. Charlie's gonna help,
Tommy's gonna help, Bob's gonna help, Moe's gonna help, and
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(20:48):
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Speaker 8 (21:00):
The three to oz that he inhambed inside before it
forces in a run. Dubs laid two to nothing half
a basis loaded walk is forty second run batted in.
Everyone moves up tonight he has Bush scores and now
the bags are loaded for Kyle Tucker. And this is

(21:22):
again another potential turning point in this game.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
All right, how about that's kind of indicative of what
happened last night.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
When I heard three oh, I'm thinking, man, Hat's got
the three oh green light. Yep, three oh walk Yep,
Cubs win. I chose he and Hat because he's a
bear cat. Yep. It's basically all I had. Yep. It's
about all was going on last night. Cubs are Cubs
winners last night the wild card in the National League.
The Reds are now two and a half out. Cardinals

(21:52):
loss last night. Giants lost last night. Padres didn't play
so you get a chance with the Padres coming into town,
them to uh to turn things upside down, as they say,
with uh, with Fernando Tatis Junior and company coming into
Great American Ballpark. We'll get into that uh in our

(22:12):
next segment. For now, let's take a couple of phone calls. Mike,
what's going on?

Speaker 9 (22:18):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (22:18):
Long time, no time? You jokers?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
What's up? Mike?

Speaker 7 (22:22):
You guys remind me of Andy and Maybury, Barney and Andy.
I'm just trying to figure out who's who Barnie and
which you guys want to figure that out for me
on air?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I'll say Andy, I'll be Andy.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
That's about right, no offense, awesome. But Barney was funnier
now he was a funny guy. Yes, Andy was a
great Barney's hilarious dude.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
And I don't know the word to start. Just have
a little patience through with me. We're talking about having
a hankering for a chocolate to click. You know what
I had yesterday, A hankering for that I haven't had
since two thousand and three. A woman.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Careful.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Been a long time, fellas, Oh, been a long time.
But it was a kind of a profound dream I
had let's believe it at Yeah, Okay, moving right along.
You guys were talking about the Cuban missile and stuff
yesterday with one hundred mile you know, the first hundred

(23:26):
mile guy one hundred mile hour closer I could remember
that was expeared by everyone because he was a big dude.
Was Goose Gossage from the New York Yankees in the
seventies when the Yankees were so formidable. He was the
first guy I can remember that through one hundred all day. Yeah,
it was the closer, but the guy was menacing.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I remember, did Trevor Hoffman through some serious gas? I
remember Trevor Hoffman at his at his prime.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
That was a lot later though, Yeah, that was twenty
years later.

Speaker 10 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
But Gus Osage and then Rowley Fingers was the great, great,
great reliever for the Oakland A's with a big handlebar mustache. Yeah,
but he didn't throw, he didn't throw heat. For boy,
he was something else. Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It was always and the closure thing to me, because
I looked and thought about this yesterday. Some more closers
are such unique players in baseball because so many have
been successful with just one or two pitches, but they
mastered the pitch like the best closer of all time
essentially threw one pitch in Mariano Rivera, but he mastered

(24:32):
the pitch and no one could ever figure it out.
And that to me, like with Chapman. Chapman threw fast,
but he eventually had it to create the off speed
because baseball caught up to the speed eventually, whereas Mariano
Rivera was throwing a hundred, but the movement he had
on that pitch made it unhittable. And I always thought

(24:54):
the the the life expectancy of closures, if they don't
have that one pitch or they don't evolve, is never
as long. You always see closers that you know of
Diaz for the Mets that had that come onto the scene.
But if they don't evolve, they start struggling. Because these
these hitters are so good. And that's what makes me think,

(25:15):
like a Mariano Rivera, and I guess said a Trevor Hoffman,
or you think Dennis Eckersley and those guys, what's made
them so special as they could do it at such
a high level for so long.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Yeah, it's it's really incredible because talk about pressure, they're
always pitching in pressure high most of the time, especially
in the postseason. I mean, starters hit pressure, but nothing
like that closure goes through I do. I can't imagine. Girl.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Speaking of closers, you know, Robert Suarez from the Padres
has been great this year, twenty two saves. He's still
suspended because they're hitting shohe Otani, so he will not
be available for tonight's game, but he will return Saturday
and Sunday for the Padres.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
Yeah, because they have d number one bullpen in the
Major League at one point seventy nine. Is the e
r the sharters the start. I was gonna get to
that in just a second here, and then I had
a couple of football things for you, because I know
you guys. Always that's your that's your default thing is
always football. But the pods are coming in Okay, three

(26:20):
game series, the red Dace is going in game two.
It's not it's not. Hunter Green is not the ace
of this staff anymore. That is gone. And Andrew Abbitt
is the ah, no question about it. Why because he
pitches when he's supposed to. Gimpy Green pinches when he's
not hurt, which is not often. So good luck to you,

(26:41):
Hunter Green, But you're not reliable enough, my friend. Once
you maybe get another Tommy John. These hard throwers. To
watch Andrew Abbott pitch is like watching Sandy Kopax or something.
He is a pitcher and he infuriates these hitters and
they don't know what to do with I just think
the guy's increat And I.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Think he's got like that bulldog mentality that you wanted
a pitcher that's just going to keep attacking you.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
Yeah, he's got a little pot belly on him, little mustache.

Speaker 11 (27:11):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
He's very relatable, looks like a real regular kind of
guy who's happened to be left handed. Boy, what a
blessing for him. But yeah, he's my dude. Man. I
just I just adore that guy.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
They do get They do get a break too, because
the Padres are going to throw three straight right handed
starting pitchers at them, which for the Reds that's a
win itself, because lefties have been a nightmare for this
team to hit.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
You took the words right out of my mouth. It's
three left, three right. He's two of them are kind
of evenly matched up tonight and Sunday tomorrow. I got
to give it to the Reds just because of Abbage. Yeah. Uh,
Dylan Cees is going tonight. Dylan's having a little bit
of an offseason, but we'll see when he's on that
guy's football and Austin. I'm going to get to this

(27:59):
geno stoning if it kills me, because I kept wanting
you and Tony to talk about this. But my question
is there's five guys coming back this year from bad
years last year, and I want to read them to
you and see which ones you think are viable to
come back and make a difference for their teams, okay,

(28:21):
or or just what you think of them as players.
One is Tyree's Hill, Two is Max Crosby. Three is
Keenan Williams that the interior defensive lineup from the Jets.
Four is Nika Fitzpatrick Coboy. We don't want to say that.
And number five is Shavari's Ward with the with the

(28:44):
with the Colts.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think I think the most important to their teams
are Tyreek Hill and Max Crosby because those are the
guys that if they don't have and the amount of
money that they dump into them, I don't think they
can be successful. I worry about Quinn Williams with Jets,
not because he's he's got the ability to be dominant,
but you need if you're an impactful interior defensive lineman,

(29:09):
you need help around you. And I just don't know
if the Jets defense has enough help around him, because
offenses can just double team Quinn Williams all the time
if they're not worried about anybody else. I think Mika
Fitzpatrick is towards the end of his prime. I'm not
as concerned about him bouncing back to me. I don't
know with Ward, but the two that I would look

(29:29):
out of the first two you mentioned, Tyreek Hill and
Max Crosby. If if you're looking at sleepers in the AFC,
the Dolphins and the Raiders enter that conversation, if those
two players have big years.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, and Max typically has been pretty durable in his career.
Last year was really the only time he was like
banged up and it affected his performance. Tyreek is a
complete lunatic, but when he's on, he's on, and Tua
needs him and that team right there, like they haven't
really done anything this offseason to make themselves that much better.

(30:02):
They're just kind of relying on health uh So, if
they're able to keep him healthy and keep his head
screwed on straight and keep to a tongue of I
lois head on his actual body, then the Dolphins will
be at least formidable.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't know that everything that like Jalen Waddle's great,
he's injury prompt, right. I mean they have a good
running game, they have two good receivers, but everything with
them hinges on injuries.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah, their offensive line is horrible, and yeah, I just
don't I think the Patriots have a better team than them.
When when it's all said and done this year, the
other thing, real quick was well and Austin. Please, I'm
you know what I'm talking about with the Gino Stone thing,
with the one high thing. Maybe whenever you guys feel
like get into it later. But here's the other thing

(30:48):
I really want to mention because I think it's important
for Cincinnati sports. Greg Cook, you know Greg Cook. You've
heard of great Cook, right, I know both, especially you.
Tony Bean from UC he was probably had more high
expectations of a quarterback coming out of college than anybody
in a long time. And he was Joe Burrow for

(31:10):
this town. Before Joe Burrow was he was. He was
a remarkable guy. And he had that rotator cuff and
they couldn't fix it back then, they didn't know how to.
He played through pain his first year, you know, as
a rookie. He led the league in passing in the
in the old AFL before the merger, and Bill Cook

(31:31):
uh and Jeff Hobson wrote a book about him called
The Unfinished Paintings about Greg cook And he ended up
being kind of a nomad with alcohol.

Speaker 11 (31:42):
Problems and he passed in sixty five. But I remember him,
not vividly, but I do remember him and Tony he
was something else. They called him the Joe Nameless of
the Midwest.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, and he wasn't. He wasn't a small guy too.
He was six four sixty five. He was built extremely
well and and again it's one of those what if
careers for sure, but certainly one of the best to
ever do it for the Bearcats.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
Absolutely, and maybe it's anywhere. Yeah, okay, you promised me,
Gino Stone.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
We talked about it yesterday, Mike.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Oh, I didn't hear it naturally, did we?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Yeah, great, you know I'm unreliable.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Uh yeah, we Uh, Greg cook Man way ahead of
his time real quick before we get a break in,
Greg and Sharonville. What's up, Greg, I'll.

Speaker 11 (32:32):
Be going, uh, get a couple of quick things here.

Speaker 9 (32:35):
You know.

Speaker 11 (32:36):
I was watching the game with my daughter at the
house the other night, and when Jiebou came in, I said, well,
you can put a bow on the Yankees for this
game because here's Jibo. And she said, what the hell
are you talking about? And I said, well, you know,
we were together opening day, her and I at scouts seats.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
It was a great day, great weather.

Speaker 11 (32:59):
And came to bo in the in the ninth for
whatever that's not really well.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
I think the amount of text messages I get every
time he enters a game is so funny.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love I love running to social media as soon
as you Bo's in.

Speaker 11 (33:15):
Anyway, I just said I got the I got the
bow from from you know. Tony said put a bow
in and she says, we you know what bowe and
jabout right said you know that. I said, well I
do now, but here when you're talking about you know,
the first half of the season. Okay, in the fall
it was great. We hired Tito, really great. He had

(33:36):
to be you know, he had to be worth a
few extra wins. But and I said this on the show.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
What I did not like.

Speaker 11 (33:43):
Was giving Nick Martinez that qualifying order or qualifying offer
twenty one twenty two million. I just felt that would
probably drap him a little bit. For you know, we
need a right handed power hitter to help out with
a left he's so then you know, then I hear,
we got this guy, Austin Hayes. Then let me tell you.

(34:04):
I follow the game, yeah, football and baseball as much
as anybody. I listen to you guys every day. I
catch up at night before I go to bed on
Sports Sports Center and I say, Austin, who who is
this guy? So immediately go to Baseball Reference and in
eight years he had hit sixty eight home runs. I
think he drove in like two hundred and sixty runs.

(34:26):
And I thought, this isn't a power, This is not
a power. This is what we do. But anyway, it
comes to spring training. He's crushing the ball, he's hitting
the ball out, blah blah blah. And I said, that's
spring training. And here's the disappointment for me. Here we
are at eighty one games. He's missed fifty games and
he's on a pace to hit twelve home runs. Yeah,

(34:49):
so I guess what I'm saying. If there's somebody available
between now and the trading deadline, I hope they spend
the money and go out and get them.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I'm with you. I'm with you, Greg. Thank you so
much for call. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 11 (35:01):
Okay, thanks.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know when when Greg said that Austin, I quickly
ran because I'm like, man, people say that, but Jabo's
not having a terrible year. His he alays just out
of five. He's just not very exact. He's not a
good baseball player. He stinks he's not good. But yes,
the uh look, forty five million go to Candelaureio, Nick Martinez.
Are they getting forty five million worth of production? No?

(35:25):
I do think it's hard.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I think the Reds were genuinely surprised Nick Martinez accepted
the qualifying offer. I really think they were. But you know,
you hire Terry Francona. You're familiar with Derek Johnson and
like him, and I believe Nick Martinez and his wife
had just had a child. So you can press, you

(35:47):
can sign your name and get twenty one million dollars.
Got to do it and stay where you're at and comfortable.
It makes sense for Nick Martinez, but I think the
Reds were kind of surprised he did it.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah. Uh, let's take ourselves a break. We'll get back
on the clock quick, touch and go, and then we'll
finish up the hour with a conversation about the Reds
first half of the season on Cincy three to sixty.
We'll turn it over to Charlie Goldsmith who joins us
after that on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks
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Sports Station, a service of Skyline Chile. Real quick, we'll
get to a break. But the schedule of events here
for the Big Red Machine weekend here with the Reds
and the Padres. Meet and greets are happening today, Tomorrow
and Sunday. There's actually a meet and greet from one

(36:51):
thirty to two thirty to day three thirty to four
thirty as well Tomorrow eleven to noon and one to two,
and then Sunday noon to one thirty. All of those
are half at the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum.
Tonight there is a Big Red Machine pregame parade. That is,
twenty three members of these seventy five to seventy six
World Series champions are scheduled to take part in a

(37:12):
pregame parade around the field. Obviously you get postgame fireworks.
Saturday is the fiftieth Anniversary night that is celebrating the
fiftieth anniversary of the legendary Big Red Machine. So arrive
early for a special pregame celebration honoring those teams beginning
at three point thirty, with again twenty three members of
the Big Red Machine scheduled to take part in the festivities.

(37:35):
Should be a great weekend at the ballpark. Should be
an awesome time to honor so many Reds greats. There's
also the conversation about what to do with this team
going forward, where they stand as the season crosses the
halfway point. Let's dive into a little bit of that
when we get back. Before we'll jump on with Charlie Goldsmith,

(37:57):
who joins us at one o'clock to talk some Reds
and maybe some Bengals as well, on ESPN fifteen thirty
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Speaker 1 (38:05):
On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Welcome back since e three to six the ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline Chili. Thank you
for listening. Charlie Goldsmith's going to join us in about
ten minutes to kick off our number two. Then we're
gonna get to talkbacks, and then we've got giveaways galore.
We've got to give away two SINCEI shirts, gift cards,
We've got ae W tickets, We've got Red's Marlins with

(38:43):
an old Dominion postgame concert. We're gonna give away all
of that at the end of our number two. Bob Manjen,
Tom Gallader, Mowagger, and Moore in our number three as well.
Crossing the halfway point of the Reds season with an
off day. Yesterday, I saw an article our guy, Richard

(39:03):
Skinner did for Local twelve dot com. Three things that
were the best part about the first half of the
season and three things that were the worst part for
the first half of the season. Let me read these
to you, Austin, and then I want you to tell
me are the good outweighing the bad for the good?

(39:27):
Skinny alludes to Elie de la Cruz's June surge three
forty six seven home runs, sixteen RBIs and has scored
twenty one runs in the month of June. Struck out
seventeen of his ninety two plate appearances. That's an eighteen

(39:51):
and a half percent clip compared to striking out seventy
two times in two hundred and fifty six plate appearances
in April and May. That's a twenty eight percent clip.
So strikeout numbers are down. Number two he went to
and alluded to the starting pitching. Starting pitching ranks twelfth
in Baseball for starting pitcher ERA and sixth among National
League teams at three point seven to six. Obviously, Hunter

(40:13):
Green not being healthy doesn't help this, but Andrew abb
at one point seventy to nine ERA Nick Lodolo, I
think you use the word serviceable when you talk about
Brady Singer and Nick Martinez. And then obviously the addition
of Chase Burns helps that as well. And then Skinny
does allude to improve defense outside of Eli de la
Cruz and his MLB high twelve airs. The team from

(40:37):
a defensive standpoint, passes the eye test, and analytics back
it up. According to fielding Bible dot Com, the Reds
rank fifteenth in Major League Baseball and defensive run saved
with ten after ranking twenty eighth last year. Those are
the good the bad. According to Richard Skinner, the injuries

(40:58):
Hunter Green, Tyler Stevenson miss a bunch of time, Austin Hayes,
Noelve Marte Cees have all been out at different times
for this team. Matt McClain in his first two months
of the season and what he was able to do
or not do, And then finally Skinny alluded to these
struggles against left handed pitching. And I think the left

(41:21):
handed pitching struggles obviously go hand in hand with some
of the injuries and not hand having Noeove Marte or
Austin Hayes. But at the same time, even with those two,
is that offense enough to compete at the highest level.
That's a question they're going to have to answer answer.
But if you look at those three on each side, Austin,

(41:41):
do the good outweigh the bad for the Reds through
the halfway point. No, what worries you the most left handers?
And Matt McLean Yeah, notice he went back to the
two hole and he's been terrible yep, And I thought
there was a hope and when he went back that
maybe he was starting to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
And also injuries, because every year we talk about injuries.
People are constantly hurt. Hunter Green constantly hurt. Austin Hayes,
your big acquisition, was always hurt before. He's still hurt now.
Marte missed eighty games because of his suspension last year
and he's hurt again, and Rehet Louder's hurt again, and
obliques all over the place. I don't even think it's close.

(42:21):
The bad outweighs the good, and I think that still
is the case moving forward. Now they've played better and
they've put themselves in a position. This is a big
stretch going into the All Star break. This is the season.
How they perform here will dictate the way that they
approach the rest of the season. But yeah, I mean

(42:43):
they struggle with consistency, and mainly because they're hurt all
the time, they can't hit left handers and Matt McClain
hasn't produced Ellie can't do everything.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
And it's crazy how much better you feel. And I
think the emergence of Spencer Steeer has helped. Stevenson has
seemed to find a pretty good rhythm. But like even
the thought of and we talked about this one Mike
called in the padres are throwing three right handers for
this set. I feel so much better about this team
being able to win another series. But it's just been
it's been so poor verse lefties. And can you rely

(43:18):
on even if Austin Hayes and Noeve Marte get healthy,
can you still rely on just them to be enough
for this team to get over the hump? I don't
think you can. And because of that, I think it
really puts you in a tough spot when it comes
to the second half of the season and looking for

(43:39):
what we all look for, and that is the consistency
that just hasn't been there. Let's rehash some of this
with Charlie Goldsmith when we come back. We'll ask him
the good the bad from the first half of the
season and give some predictions here for the second half,
especially as it relates to the trade deadline. Will this
team be aggressive, what needs to happen between now and

(44:00):
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You know what that means. Charlie Goldsmith is with us
right now, ready to dive into some Cincinnati Reds. What's up, Charlie, Tony?
How you doing, Charlie? I'm great. How are you doing

(46:20):
this week?

Speaker 9 (46:22):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great, having a good week,
good weekend, big.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Week and at the ballpark with the big Red machine
in town. Also the San Diego Padres in town. We'll
get to that. But we've crossed over that halfway point
of the season, and for the Reds, I wanted to
get your thoughts. Give me the most promising thing from
the first half you saw, and your most concerning thing
from the first half that needs to be solved.

Speaker 9 (46:48):
The most promising thing has been the fact that TJ.
Frieda in the leadoff spot and Elie de la Cruz
bat and third have been able to carry the entire
offense some muck and have certainly been some hot stretches
mixed in there as well, but there's also been a
lot of grind that they've had to get through that freedom.
From a consistency perspective, and yes, Ellie, from a consistency perspective,

(47:13):
I have been able to contribute. The biggest concern, the
biggest trend is maybe the defense and the base running,
not just for Elliet but for the whole team. That
identity hasn't totally clicked yet, and even on Wednesday you
saw that lead to another game getting away from them.
I think it's gotten better over the course of the year,
but you know, in May we were saying they've already
lost twelve games where they beat themselves. That raid has

(47:35):
gone down, but you'd still like to see another step there.
But the stars on this team are very clearly it's stars.
The roles are very defined. And I'll say this to
that Yankees game on Tuesday was the first time I
really thought to myself, the Reds actually have a real
shot at this thing, and they actually can do it.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Do you think that the good you've seen spread out
across the first half outweighs the bad and the questions
that this team has.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
Well, they're over five hundred, so I think overall it
would be a you know what, I was gonna say
it being that positive, but still they're gotten a playoff spot,
so you do have to bring in that bit of
skepticism in terms of where they are. I am generally
feeling a positive tone. A couple of players have mentioned this,
and I do agree with it too, Like the Reds
are playing your best baseball. The rotation hasn't been pitching

(48:22):
that well over the last month. It's like there's a
pretty clear path here, which is that the rotation then
really gets humming, and I think some of the young
relievers can help balance out the pitching staff as well,
and then the Reds really start clicking at that level
in a way that's even more sustainable than how they've played.
Now I'll add this too. I was talking to an

(48:42):
opposing player recently, a guy who have known for a
bit of guy really trust. He's really impressed. He said
the Reds look like a playoff team. He said that
there are qualities and a line of that are just dangerous.
That the depth is better than people give a credit for.
So the Reds are starting to get that recognition around
the league as well.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Do you think that we're seeing more and more Terry
Francona got to kind of leave his his his fingerprint
on this team. I think there's certainly an understanding that
it takes a while to know the roster, but are
you feeling that that he's starting to push the right
buttons and having more of an impact on a game
by game basis for the team Offensively?

Speaker 9 (49:19):
I mean, there's no doubt that the offense has been
doing better. I think what you've seen is, and I've
described this is like a scheme change, the identity shifts
and the more of a situational hitting emphasis that the
Reds have put into play this year. I think that
took time. I think guys were putting new situations and
we're like, I've never been in this situation before with
this style and this scheme, being asked to do this,

(49:41):
and I think as they've gotten more reps with that,
that's one area where you've seen the offensive identity improves.
Obviously that starts with Francona, but that's brought in kind
of on a daily basis with Chris Dalaka and hitting staff,
which are new as well. The other big one I
mean is you know the Elie hasn't had a clean week,
and you saw after the base running the state one
Tuesday one, Terry Francona talked to him about it, addressed

(50:04):
it very directly, told him you're better than that. And
two he just said that to the media. Terry Francona did.
He was very honest and open and upfront with us
about the conversations that he that that he was having
with Eli. I mean, like, accountability is the buzzword, right,
but but there was really right there that won't pay off.
I don't know, but that is what Terry Francona was
brought here to do, and of course he's he's he's

(50:27):
sharing that and being vocal about that when it's the
right time.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
You have you've watched, probably as a fan, and now
you've seen covering this team some pretty memorable debuts for
the Cincinnati Reds. Where do you rank what you saw
from Chase Burns earlier this week?

Speaker 9 (50:43):
I remember watching Johnny Quido's debut from a dentist office.
I remember I remember watching Bruce's debut in my brother's
room where he had a little TV that he got
rid of a long time ago. But it's been a
long time since Bruce debuted. I was at Billy's debut
that was electric. I forget where I was for Chapman's debut.

(51:04):
That's to me, it's a pretty short list. Green had
a very cool debut, even though he had to grind
a bit. I mean, here's the thing, though, Chase Burns, like,
all right, you can't write his tickets to Cooper's Town.
Yet you can say this though, there is no doubt
that Chase burn is an elite talent who should have
had even more hype coming up as a prospect than
ended up. It's funny like you'd ask me a couple

(51:26):
of weeks ago, like should they bring Burns up? And
I'd hem in haw and I say innings and the
big picture in the season, and it's like, no, the
rid should have brought Chase Burns up. I don't want
to compare anyone to Paul's Steens, but this is about
as close as it can possibly look too. Schemes for
a prospect coming up, and just the way the stuff's
playing in a way that I even think is more

(51:48):
sustainable when you factor in the depth of the arsenal
as well than say Jacob Mazerowski and in Milwaukee, Chase
Burns is going to be a central figure for the
Reds for the next at least six you obviously ideally
for them, maybe longer. He has the tools to go
into LA and lead the Reds to a playoff win
if they ever get there. Like he's that type of

(52:09):
piece now like you got Eli, got Hunter yet Burns
like he's very much in that tiar Now for me looking.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Forward, how do you view their rotation panning out going forward? Now?

Speaker 9 (52:21):
I mentioned the optimism that the rotation, They felt like
there's been some positive trends behind the scenes that haven't
quite shown up yet. On a very controversial take, which
is that I have and I'm not I'm very optimistic today,
but they are playing good ball. Like I'm more optimistic
on Nick Lidolo's season, and I know how it's looked,

(52:42):
but the fact that the whole thing with Nick Lidol
and I talked to him about this plant the other day,
the whole thing for him has always been the way
he snaps the breaking ball, like that's his thing. That
pitch has been off all season and he's had to
rely on this changeup that he picked up on the
fly two years ago and Aside from like two bad days,
he's a pretty solid job. So that can be such

(53:02):
a clear adjustment. From a mechanical perspective, sometimes you just
find the pitch again. If he does that, I think
he's poised the pitch at All Star level. Still, with
think Martinez, the thing was, I mean, he's the word focused.
Several times there was a lot of talk in the
bullpen between the coaching staff, et cetera, about how putting
Martinez in the bullpen for two games helped him just

(53:25):
click back into gear and something snapped into place again
for him from adrenaline perspective, from how he felt. They
feel good about that. I think the ball's coming better
out of Brady Singer's hands. I think he's he's throwing
his best ball right now, and the Reds will certainly
take that. What they're with, what they're getting me Andrew
Rabbit will more. Can you say Burns? The big thing
will still be how they manage his innings like flagged

(53:48):
that last week before the All Star break. Do they
add in the spot start just to get Burns an
extra day? Then whenever Hunter Green returns, do they move
to a six man rotation like they'll have to make
those decisions because they're going to be careful with Burns,
but with Green then coming back too. I still think
this rotation has a lot of room to improve, and
I see that as very realistic to expect.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I read earlier from you, Charlie about the Reds needing
to give their rookie relievers even more of a shot.
You make the case for Zach Maxwell. You also, I thought,
brought light to something very important earlier in the week,
and that is how good Tony Santion has been for
the Cincinnati Reds. Talk about him and talk about the
rest of this Reds bullpen a little bit going forward
here into the second half.

Speaker 9 (54:30):
Well, funny because santi and ties into it in twenty
twenty one. I think they should have given Santine more
of a shot out of the bullpen during the second
half of that season, or even earlier, moved him to
the bullpen earlier back before the trade deadline when the
bullpen just didn't have any options. That was a terrible
bullpen and Santinine was so young, But could he have
won them a couple more games if they would have

(54:50):
thrown him in there right away? And so what the
bullpen had been this year before Graham Ashcraft got hurt,
was the whole game was just get the ball to Ashcroft,
st and Pegan at the end and they'll you know,
you'll live and die. You'll you'll ride or die with
those guys. But then when Ashcraft got hurt, that kind
of blew up the plan. Of course, Santine and Pagan
are still in the back, but because of Ashcraft's versatility,

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they've kind of had to reassess everything from a role's perspective,
and Scott Barlow's come in. I think Scott Barlow's done better,
done a nice solid job, but there's obviously a limited
feeling there. He also is one of the worst walk
rates in baseball. I'm impressed with what I'm seeing, especially
from Lion Richards and the lines ready to be a
sementin and guy right now. Connor Phillips, he looks good.

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I'm interested. Obviously a huge arm, the commands the thing,
but he was pitching great and triple A. He had
a nice rebound on Tuesday, pitch Bullgin the other day.
Belief may we've seen it when he's been up. Frankly,
he's in the minor league right now because he was
the one of the only pitchers they had with options,
and they may not be carrying there as they ate
best relief pitchers on the roster right now, and then

(55:58):
throwing naxwell, who's a lot like relief. May just haven't
seen them yet. I say about Maxwell, if i'm Ario's
men's too, one hundred dollars an hour like that's pretty
exciting threads. As of right now, I'd say late back
of the bullpen is as big of a need as
an outfield bat. And that might sound controversial. I see
those as equal. But if multiple of those young guys

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are those guys, if start a wave here that's ready
to be the back of your bullpen right now, well
that completely changes your trade deadline strategy and then you
can invest more into improving other areas of the roster.
So you need to know what you have first. So
let's give those young guys a shock because I think
a lot of them are ready for it, and see
what they can do, and then if they're not ready,
then trade for some.

Speaker 7 (56:40):
Guys into the deadline.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
What did you make of the reaction from the team
after the news that jam Or Candelario had been dfa'ed
and do you feel like that can kind of give
them some energy, not that one of their friends is leaving,
but that the organization seems to be trying to win.

Speaker 9 (56:58):
You know what, Truthfully, I think the Reds would have
dfaed Candelario if they were fifteen games under five hundred,
or if they were fifteen games over five hundred, or
if they were exactly where they were, And I feel
they're very similarly about their decision to call up Chase Burns.
From an urgency perspective, I think the most urgent thing
they did was putting Martinez and the bullpen for those
two games. The other most urgent thing they did was

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basically skipping Petty until extra innings in that game on
Saturday in Saint Louis last week and making that a
true bullpen day. Like that was them doing everything to
win a game. Candelario, or they just just had better
guys and they were they'd been ready to maybe eat
that money for a while. I'll say it again, like,
what will really be the aggressive all in move will

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be having the best eight relievers on the team. That's
what I'm keeping my eye on for because I am
so high on May and on Uh and on the backswell.
Bullpen depth is really important. But last year the Reds
made the mistakes back to them Tony Sanity, and they
kept so Tony Santine and triple A last year, I
believe him go pretty close to his opt out date

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when he could have opted out if the right hadn't
called him up. Well, it turned out he was their
second best reliever and he just should have been up
all along, and they were overthinking the whole depth thing.
You don't want to repeat that seem mistake twice, especially
when you know you're every game so important because you're
fighting on the fringes of the playoff race.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Charlie, this team has struggled against left handed pitching for
much of the season. This team has also been dealing
with a lot of injuries to their right handed bats.
Right now, they don't have the services of Noova Marte,
they don't have Austin Hayes. Where do we stand on
their potential returns and is them returning enough to turn

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this around against lefties or do they still need to
look to add more.

Speaker 9 (58:48):
You're always looking to improve with Hayes, to be honest,
We'll find out in an hour or two. I know
the plan was to plan five to seven eightings on Wednesday.
That's what happened recept on Thursday. It probably was a
positive that he didn't play on three day. Is he
being activated? We'll find out soon Marte. What I found
interesting was that the week they had, the week through
Sunday basically mapped out for him, and it seemed to

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be a reassessed point after that. That's good news as
opposed to maximizing the at bats that Marte could have
gotten on his rehab assignment, just like like they did
with Christian and Karanaci and Strands for example, that's a
mean signal that there might be some more urgency to
bring Marte back. And I mean, well, we're seeing it
at third base right now. I mean I'm not feeling

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strongly at all about how Christian and Acarnasi on Strand
looks Santia West and all, you know, we see the
swamp peason. They've been reluctant to play Gavin Luck's at
third base for whatever reason. Third base is all for
on my trade deadline watch list, So you know, put
Marty in with those relievers, like, let's see what you
can do right now, see if you can back up
what you did in April and May, and then yes

(59:53):
they need more help. Like I was looking at the
bottom half of the lineup the other day. I believe
against Freed and this is just the top of my head.
But you're still doing the Stephenson DH thing because to
get Trevino's back in the lineup and Trevino's swinging the
back great, But if you're flowing the trade market, you
can find a better right handed bat than a backup

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catcher Cees. You can hear my skepticism about it, like
that be an area, or that'd be a spy who
still in the lineup Espanol and how he's slumping he
deserves to spart on the team. But that's an area
of the lineup you can improve. There not even been
another guy who is in the line up been there
who I'm forgetting against left handed pitching. There, even with
Hayes and Marte back, there are still flocks for maybe

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one more right handed bat at third base or in
the out game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Austin brought up the the Jamber Candela Aureo move, not
a move that maybe historically you would see this team making,
but to come on and say, hey, we got this wrong,
We're gonna move on from it. At the same time,
they made a move, and a couple of weeks ago
it didn't feel like a possibility. We're going to see
Chase Burns, and we saw Chase Burns. Do you think
that the urgency and the messaging that was sent this

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week could maybe add into to this team being buyers
at the deadline more so than maybe they had been
in years past.

Speaker 9 (01:01:08):
I think I know this. They looked at trades that
would be say buying trades at the deadline in twenty
twenty four. Obviously they did in twenty twenty three. Just
look at the Gavin Lux trade for example. I mean,
they traded two prospects to the Dodgers. You know the
Dodgers were the cellar, but yes they were, and that's
what you got Gavin Lux. I think in general, or

(01:01:28):
I know, in general, the by lucks, the buy cell
divide has blurred a lot more big league for big
league trades in recent seasons, a lot of basically three
way trades. Essential three way trade because all right, the
Dodgers theoretically to then use the prospects they got from
the Red to go trade for a good another guy

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like there's a lot more just baseball moves going on
the Reds. Yes, they're looking at opportunities to improve the roster.
I'll say it again, bullpen help and right handed that
I would see his neck and neck right now. They're
also one injury away from being in a scary spot
from a starting pitching depth perspective until they get guys back.
So on my trade deadline watch list that I've put together,

(01:02:11):
I have a couple more fifth starter types like Ben
Livelea types who could just help them get through innings
between now and the end of the season. But yeah,
I mean, this is a team that I know is
going to be very active in discussions and has clear
need that they recognize that they've tried to address and
in some cases by Candelaria, have failed to address. And
they still have massive needs that at those spots. And

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again that's understood. So yeah, the Reds also don't have
there's like the mid tier of the farm system isn't
as good as it's been, like prospects like eight through
twenty twenty five. That that's just my information. They have
a strong top that they might be more reluctant to
deal from. What do they have an eight through twenty

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five range, and how much capital do they have there.
Maybe it is their bullpen depth that gives them something
to deal from in terms of how these trades get
worked out. But there's a lot of work they can
do between now and the deadline.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Talking to Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's Chalkboard Fox nineteen, Charlie, how
do you feel about fan voting for the All Star Game?

Speaker 9 (01:03:10):
M you know what, it's just the starters now. I
think the real story is how the Commissioner's office is
just completely taken over the rest of it, like for example,
in me and this is great, This is great for
the Reds. They should be celebrated. Even in May when
we were like, what's going on with Elie Delakers' season?
He hasn't clicked yet, Like I still knew that Ellie

(01:03:31):
was gonna play. Ellie was always going to be in
the All Star Game this year. It is a major
market thing. But in some cases like Ellie transcends that.
But then a guy like TJ. Friedeill just slides under
the radar and he's not going to get a fair
shot this season, and that's going to be really disappointing.
If he doesn't make the team. So what I don't
like is the two rounds of voting, like you get

(01:03:52):
the finalists and then I think that's just cheating to
get people to plug in their emails, slice and have
more engagement with your server. But sure, you know, give
fans something to be a part of the process. Reward
the most popular players in the game. I'm all for that.
I just wish whether it be a player vote that
were taking that would be taken seriously, but that's always
hard to do, or a more widespread look from say

(01:04:16):
coaches around the game or something like that. Can you
fill out the benches of these teams in a way
that reward TJ friedle types more.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
The other thing is we know Ronald Acunya Jr. Is
going to participate in the home Run Derby. Cal Raley
big helper talking has just accepted an invite. Do you
think Ellie would do it if he was invited?

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
He's always taught, and I mean I believe there have
been legitimate talks in each of the previous seasons, and
Ellie's just felt like the exhaustion of the home Run
Derby experience maybe wasn't worth the hype or it wasn't
worth the task. Now that changes every year. I think
it is something he would like to do at one

(01:04:58):
point better to get done while you're of course, I
don't know, I don't know. I know the league would
have interests. I can guarantee the league wants to see
Ali Delacruz in me the Offstar game. How is he
feeling he's played every day? Did he want to put
himself through that? Like, I haven't asked l those questions.
I'll just figure that out on his own. But what
I can tell you is yes, the league is like

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the Ellie effect is real around the league, around baseball,
and they'd like to put him on as many stages
as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Charlie, you're the best man. Thank you so much for
your time again this week. What's the easiest way that
folks can follow along with so many different things you
got going on?

Speaker 9 (01:05:36):
You mentioned Charlie Shockboard. I'd love to give another the
plug to Power Stacks podcast with myself with Brian gesius Law.
Today we had five minutes of takes from Johnny Bench
on the red That was fun. You got to hear
Gavin Lux talk about the players only meeting the Reds
Tabs had or the Reds had on June sixth, So
a fun conversation there with Brian Charlie's shockboard lock going on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Thanks for having me, Charlie, thanks so much. Have a
great weekend, man. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
That is Charlie Goldsmith all over the coverage with so
many things going on with power stacks, with the guys
at Fox nineteen. Charlie's doing fantastic stuff and we appreciate
his time and appreciate his injury update. That could be
our Postman Law injury update delivered by Postman Law. If
you're injured, Postman delivers um. I think good news for

(01:06:27):
Austin Hayes and jueove Marte moving in the right direction.
We talked about Hunter Green as well, maybe joining the
team in Boston through some bullpen sessions. So good things
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Speaker 14 (01:07:23):
The docs on your screen and try not to sanitaze it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
All right? That's a big day. There's a lot on
the line right now for talkbacks. Today is pair of
gift cards Matswell Silverham. That was from yesterday's Apologist Happy Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Everybody, you know what I got. That's the thinking, which
is usually a dangerous thing. That's the key to talk back.
Yesterday it was pretty darn good.

Speaker 15 (01:07:46):
Started off slightly slow, but it really got chirping along
there and really.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Funny, really good stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:07:51):
So shout out to whoever did that one start bench
cut here random fought one thing that you could add
to the Skyline chili menu, which would it be a
chili cheese foot long cony, a chili cheese burger, or
make the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
Nachos permanent go reds.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I'm a big fan of the nachos. I might make
the nachos a burger.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
I don't know. I saw mo I think reposted something
from Skyline last week and it was a bun the
hot door with a Hamburger Skyline cheese and chili on it.
And I would not do the onions and mustard, but
just that alone, it's right up my alley.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Okay, I'll start the nachos, I'll bench the burger, I'll
cut the foot long.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Okay. To answer your quest.

Speaker 16 (01:08:35):
Long, hey, fellas, it's Vinnie. Yes, I'm still alive. Vinnie
for me, Skate is still alive, Austin. What are we
doing posting on freaking Twitter about financial adviceman? You work
in the same building as ubs. Go down there, knock
on the door and tell them you got millions to invest?

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Man and Tony?

Speaker 14 (01:08:57):
What's up with our bear cats?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
I thought this was a big program.

Speaker 14 (01:09:00):
They're out there practicing what appears to.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
Be black brawls.

Speaker 14 (01:09:03):
Man, what are we doing?

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
Would you ever wear that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Yeah? That's a catapult system, man, that measures heart rate
and and things like that to make sure they're safe. Yeah,
it's all over sports. I'd probably wear a T shirt
over at times. Yeah. Who cares?

Speaker 7 (01:09:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Looking for do you have a financial advisor you recommend?

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I don't know. I know a lot of them, but
I don't use.

Speaker 17 (01:09:26):
Tony yet. Having from out healthy, Yes, I'm alive.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Sorry, it's a busy summer.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
I hate summer.

Speaker 10 (01:09:34):
I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 17 (01:09:35):
All you people's last winter, they were complaining about how
much you love.

Speaker 9 (01:09:39):
Summer and wanted summer.

Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
This sucks. I hate changing three different shirts a day
for work. I hate sweating battery acid out of my pitts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
This is terrible.

Speaker 17 (01:09:50):
I absolutely can't stand it. Screw you, summer people. Bring
on ball, Bring on football.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I'm about the winter. Yeah, man, we're about the winter
if they're and.

Speaker 17 (01:10:01):
While I'm at it, I'm very upset right now because
I'm on my second shirt. For those of you that
need a cool down, the best way to do that, obviously,
is an alcoholic beverage. There are dangers to that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:15):
Do not drink beer.

Speaker 17 (01:10:17):
I tell you right now. You drink beer during this heat,
you will pass out. The game changing drake is a
vodka lemonade. You hear that vodka lemonade. It's as simple
as that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Whoday, Okay.

Speaker 17 (01:10:33):
And screw it. I'm the freaking good president. I can
lead three talkbacks in a row if I want.

Speaker 9 (01:10:39):
If the Reds are.

Speaker 17 (01:10:40):
Still in a winning record after fourth of July. I
don't have those privileges anymore. But Tony Ausy got a
stark bench cut of what is more likely? Trey Henderson
signs of Ford training camp, Famar Stuart signs before training camp,
or we sign a offensive guard before the start of
the season star bench cut.

Speaker 16 (01:11:00):
What's more likely.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
I'll tray bench Shamar and cut the addition, I'll start
Shamar bench tray and cut the offensive line.

Speaker 18 (01:11:13):
Lord Almighty from your destination in the sky, Tony Austen
enjoyed your rank them segment. Yes, but the person that
should be ranked first is standpoint and Austin, I thought
you were going to track how many times Tony says

(01:11:33):
standpoint in a segment. Yeah, looking forward to hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Yeah, it's it's impossible to do. I don't have the
technology to be able to track it. It's so frequent.

Speaker 18 (01:11:45):
A double dip today, Wow, he Austin. Yesterday you asked
me if I could turn down the heat. I love
it when it's like this. In fact, if I could
make it hotter, I would. If you don't like the heat,
I guess maybe you should move to Alaska.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
MM sounds like something i'd hear from your rival.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
That's what I was gonna say. I didn't expect God
to be saying that.

Speaker 19 (01:12:07):
Oh the heat got to me. Man, it has been
a rough week in my world. A shout out to
ass they sweep the Phillies, have them one run in
three games. I think the Reds are gonna kick bud
against the Padres. I even think they're gonna win tonight
with Nick Martinez, he can look into this and may

(01:12:31):
I stuff to help him out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Ella's Josh and Hebert. It's been a long time since
I talk back. Josh.

Speaker 20 (01:12:43):
Mom passed away on May fourth, with us since January,
so it was pretty rough on everybody. But we were
driving back from Nashville yesterday. My wife took me on
Wednesday down in Nashville to see Incubus as an anniversary president.
And we were driving back yesterday and made a concerted
effort to listen into the show on the iHeartRadio app,
and man, it was really good listening to you guys

(01:13:04):
joke around and everything and really awesome. Love you guys,
love this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Appreciate as your loss.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
I didn't want to do this because you know, I
like him and everything.

Speaker 10 (01:13:15):
But those comments that Mike made about Hunter Green are
just rubbed me the wrong way. Man. You know, you
can brave have it without dunking on Hunter Green. Like,
don't forget about the picture. The Hunter Green is just
further shows that we don't deserve Hunter Green, and it's

(01:13:38):
just me the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Yeah, I kind of got the same vibe. I like
Hunter Greenslander. I don't like Hunter Greenslander. I wish you could.
I wish he pitched more.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I'm frustrated by his injuries, but you know this
is it's just been little stuff with him that it's
just kind of knocked him out for a while. So
I understand the frustration, but yeah, I didn't like really
what Mike's that either?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Hey Ton heading out again.

Speaker 9 (01:14:03):
I'm on a birthday gift and I'm gonna give you
a stark bench cut to see what you think we
should get.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
The choices are Xavier, Ohio State, and Moler.

Speaker 14 (01:14:13):
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Let me know, Sunday, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Man, that's tough. I guess through these doors, walk them
into Molar. You can get them something Molar, man. I
guess bench Xavier and cut Ohio State. That is asinine.
Why I get taken care of you act like Xavier,
and you see our rivals treats me well. Them over

(01:14:41):
Ohio State Savior treats me well. So does you see correct?
They pay you to do sideline questionable? They may they
will you do videos for them and stuff? Yeah, I
don't know if they pay you for those. Just like yeah,
just for the fact that Xavier has treated me nicely,
I'm not going to bench them. I'm not gonna cut
them up with them.

Speaker 21 (01:15:00):
Last night, Lance Mcowstor had opened lines for an hour
for you calling with your seventy five Reds memories. I
couldn't get on because of the sheriff.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Anyway.

Speaker 21 (01:15:11):
My memory is my mom, who just passed away about
three months ago. During the seventh game, we had a
bunch of people over her house, and every time something
important was happening in the game, she would scurry off
and hide in the kitchen superstitiously, thinking that she was
giving the Reds bad mojo and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
You superstitions.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Yes, the couser wasn't on the air last night, and
the Sheriff wasn't producing. Do you think we just made
that up just to talk?

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Are you superstitious? A little bit. Yeah, so you call,
you would say you're just yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
My grandma wouldn't he Like, she would leave her seats
at UC football games and just like go to the
bathroom and listen to the game.

Speaker 10 (01:15:51):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
And like if we started doing well, she wouldn't come out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
I have a pair of Jordans that I bought for
this baseball season, and I think every time I've wore
them to a game, the Reds have lost. Oh but
every time I've worn a different pair, they've won. Oh
So I don't know if I could wear them anymore. No,
you've got to get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Hey guys, Happy Friday. It's talkback matter Sky. Yes.

Speaker 22 (01:16:13):
Hey, I know there's fan f a n and then
fan like like we're fans. But while we could be
in like a fan that you cool off with and
having three cycles or four cycles, why don't we just
tell people what we feel, meaning we're all in management.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
They listen to your show, they know it. We got
to get a big bopper, have good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
They can't figure it out by now that they need
help there, Yeah, they might be helpless.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
That's tough. That's tough. Oh uh oh oh, I like
to start I don't want to work.

Speaker 14 (01:16:56):
I could just want to watch every play all day. Yeah,
I don't want to work. Yeah, and stealing another face?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Okay, okay, nice, I like that, Tony Audie.

Speaker 12 (01:17:12):
This just Dick from Dayton Audie. I'm so glad to
hear that you're gonna be on Sunday Morning sports Talk
for ken Brew this Sunday. I was just wondering who's
gonna be your musical segment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Who are you going to have?

Speaker 12 (01:17:25):
Would you like me to come down and play the
banjo for you or maybe a little bit of tambourine
or a triangle that would be fair. I'll even bring
the ken Brew backup singers. We'll have Rick Uccino and
Sheila Gray. It'll be a rip roar in time for it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Do you have any musical guest line though, Hey guys,
Henry's available.

Speaker 23 (01:17:46):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I'll be at the.

Speaker 23 (01:17:47):
Game tomorrow celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the Big Big
Red Machine team that I remember well. Also, by the way,
Maxville Silver Hammer was from, in my opinion, the Beatles'
best album, Abby Road, a road that I have crossed

(01:18:08):
a few times myself in London, Go Ride and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Who day So Silver hammer was a song.

Speaker 24 (01:18:15):
Hey Tony, Hey, Austin, Happy Freddy for real? This time
it's Cameron again and I got a better start bench
cup for you guys. Choe Burrow, Elli, Dalo Cruz or
Jamar Chase. I hope you guys have a wonderful Friday,
and thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
That's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Let's start Joe bench Jamar cut Ellie. Wow, baseball is
just a harder sport now. I gotta I'd have to
I'd have to cut Jamar and crazy that is. That's
a tough question.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
Pretty singer here, I heard what you said about me
and my guys on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
You know where I'm at. You've got something to say,
Come say it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Come on, big boy, I know I don't know where
you're about. Brady Singer. Remember he had a problem that
I said that They kind of packed it in a
little bit. Oh A.

Speaker 9 (01:19:03):
To answer big keVs question, the real thing to add
to the Skyline menu is a deep fried coning it.

Speaker 21 (01:19:11):
It was great with your celebrations and four twenty.

Speaker 25 (01:19:18):
A deep fried cony as always repping my city out
here in sunny hot sensy, What up my.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
Yah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
My last talk back for our head back out West.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
I'm leaving Sunday.

Speaker 25 (01:19:29):
Yes, I have my Grippo's, got my Skylines, Pennstation, my
Reds take two out th best from the Padres.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Let's get this. I want to make a run. Watching
Philly gets swept. Man gave me a little hope here.

Speaker 25 (01:19:41):
Winning series the only thing that matters at this point
right now, that's what we should be focused on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Nice talk Baseball going to July. Reach on that. Let's
win a series, Artie, I was talking about it. I
was listening.

Speaker 21 (01:19:54):
It's in the Wow sworn it was Lance McAllister on there.
Maybe I'm losing my mind. Maybe maybe all those drugs
hospital gave me Man has an after effect or something.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
But Chris sworn it was Lance Mcowster or tricks.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
Yeah, they put him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
It was Eddie rock people.

Speaker 21 (01:20:16):
Through before they even thought about getting to me. So
I thought it was the sheriff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
No, I believe it was Eddie and Rocky because Jim,
I I took your phone call. Oh, I screened you.
I put you on hold. How Eddie chooses to take
the phone calls, that's up to him. But yeah, I
talked to you yesterday. Uh that was our last one
times we forget. Sometimes we forget. What do we forget? Jim?
Jim forgets. Sometimes it happens in life, and maybe you

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know what it's so any number of people probably did
that sense. And it's hot outside. I get it. People
lose their train of thought. We've got uh, since he
starts gift cards that we've got to give away. I've
got seven here, all right. When we get back, we'll
play those seven, we'll do a giveaway, or we'll give
those two gift cards away and then we'll take a

(01:21:05):
quick break into our ticket giveaway. That's right next on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, thanks to CINCI Shirts,
Big Linked welcome back since e three to sixty.

Speaker 6 (01:21:21):
We got a pair.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Yes, that means too sincey shirts gift cards to give
away today, as we weren't able to give him away
last week. Austin, you said you've got seven in the
hopper's right, means we got a place seven and we
each get a vote on a gift card to give away.

Speaker 26 (01:21:37):
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Okay, okay, Sinnati.

Speaker 14 (01:21:55):
You're so hot out here.

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What am I doing?

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
I'm burning.

Speaker 27 (01:22:00):
It's got me thinking of Chase Burn's middle name. I
think it's rug. And then while I was ad it,
I was like, what's Candelaria's middle name? I think it's
a thank you MLBPA.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 27 (01:22:10):
I think I'm losing my mind out here. You guys
stay safe in that air conditioning studio. Remember if you
get too cold, put a jacket on.

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Yay ya, I'll know what that last bit, look, Jeff,
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Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Star spreading the news.

Speaker 23 (01:23:03):
Chase's burned them away.

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Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
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Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
I think it's good? Like it Dodd spreading.

Speaker 29 (01:23:16):
I remember being at Great American Ballpark. Has you ever
been a better start for a player than Chase sidebirds there?
I was shitting him one for before drinking an ice
cold ConA with the boyish on three to two one
night Chase.

Speaker 30 (01:23:37):
All right, that was head roach Cicada Taylor addressing the
media at pay for the last one. Tony. That right
there was a prime example of typical Cicada Taylor roach speak.
He always keeps sayings close to the pest and quite frankly,
it bugs me. Okay, we're done. Mosquito is next on

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BSP fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Stations.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Mosquito with the Director of Common Sense and the Mike
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Speaker 14 (01:24:08):
And I said I And I said hey, hey, I said, hey,

(01:24:33):
well it's taking so long now?

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Ah, well done? Do you have any favorites there? I
wrote a couple down that I uh that stand out
to me. Uh, Jamer, thank you, MLBPA Candelario. I thought
Jeff's disclaimer was fantastic. Start spreading the news and the
Cicada press conference are probably my leaders in the clubhouse.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Okay, all right, hmmm, all right, that was head roach.
Was head roach, Zach Zach Cada Taylor start.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
It's reading the news now. The only thing with that
he could have went a little bit more into little Sinatra.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Yeah he could have. He kind of yeah, tailed off,
tailed off. That one's not bad.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
I like this one. Here. What am I doing?

Speaker 28 (01:25:26):
I'm burning?

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I think it's topical with the heat uh in MLBPA Candelario.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
That's my vote.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
That's you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
I give it to him. All right, I'll go with
the Cicada press conference.

Speaker 7 (01:25:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Jeff was a Jeff was started for me this week.
Jeff was close. Yeah, I appreciate Jeff. If Jeff can
be more consistent with that, he's gonna get himself a
gift card soon. I agree. All right, congrat star two winners.
We're not done though. No phone lines are now open.
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N three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's Sport Station.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Welcome back sincey three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
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right now, what tickets were chosen and by who?

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Caller number five, our guy John called in and John
has chosen Red's Marlins tickets for July the tenth. That's
the Old Dominion postgame concert. Do you if you buy
tickets to that game? If you have tickets to that game,
you can upgrade to a field pit pass to check
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(01:27:50):
to Reds dot com slash Concerts. Meanwhile, a w coming
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tickets if you can correctly answer Red's Padres related trivia.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Are you ready? I can't wait?

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
All right, that's the sound we're looking for. We start
with Mike in Covedale, Hello, Mike, how are you.

Speaker 29 (01:28:14):
Pret good?

Speaker 28 (01:28:15):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
You guys going wonderful? How many career home runs did
Tony Gwyn hit against the Reds?

Speaker 26 (01:28:19):
Wow?

Speaker 28 (01:28:22):
Oh boy?

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Twenty two incorrect? Good guess, Joe and Wilder? How many
career home runs did Tony Gwyn hit against the Reds?

Speaker 9 (01:28:35):
Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
How many?

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Incorrect? Good guests. We go to JT in Cincinnati, JT?
How many thirteen?

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Incorrect? Shane in Bethel?

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
What do you got?

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
Nineteen?

Speaker 14 (01:28:51):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Very close? In Silverton? Where are you at?

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:28:57):
With temperatures we've had I'm going to say ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Not quite, thank you. I don't know if he had
ninety seven career homers altogether.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Man, he might have. Caller, what's your name? Hello? Just
couldn't hear him? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Lines are empty? Man, five on three, seven, four, nine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
You pick your questions because like, who in the right
mind knows how many home runs Tony Gwinn hit against
the Reds? Tony Gwyn Junior was here yesterday in the studio. Yeah,
what was he doing?

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Apparently he has a show he does Padre Radio, and
he also has an afternoon show in San Diego, so
he was using our studio. So he was afternoon show. Yeah, caller,
what is your name?

Speaker 9 (01:29:45):
Jacob?

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Jacob?

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Can you make us your priority here? You got to
take us off speakerphone? What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:29:53):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
How many homers did Tony Gwyn hit against the Reds
in his career?

Speaker 9 (01:30:00):
Let's say fifteen?

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Good guess, but incorrect? Thank you, caller, you're on the air.
What is your name, Mike?

Speaker 29 (01:30:09):
Mike?

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
How many homers did Tony Gwinn hit against the Reds
in his career?

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Seventeen seventeen career Big flies for Tony Gwynn against the
Cincinnati Reds in his career. For his career, he hit
three point thirty two with one hundred and eleven runs,
batted in fifty doubles against the Red Legs and two
hundred and thirty three career games doubles. AE double you ticket.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Congratulations, I'm sorry, I already forgot your name?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Is it Mike? Mike?

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
That was Mike, Mike, Mike, Congratulations. You're gonna go see AE?

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
W hold on for me. Yeah, let's go. Are we
sure that's not Joe Danavan? Sounds like Danovan. That's vacation Joe.
He turns into Mike. All right, wonderful. Uh a break
and then hour three leading things off, Tom Gallader, the
voice of FC cincinnaw and we'll get some hot weather
things to look out for. Thanks to our guy Bob

(01:31:04):
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Sports Day.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
Welcome Back.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
It is the third and final hour on this Friday afternoon.
You're listening on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. You
could also listen via the iHeartRadio app. We are a
service here and our three of our good friends at
Penn Station, And if you follow along with this show
on a regular basis, then you know what today means.
At two o'clock, the voice of FC Cincinnati is going

(01:31:59):
to join us. Tom Galaid is here right now to
talk all things Orange and Blue. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's
going on?

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
Tony, Tony, Tony Happy Friday, about to sit down on
his airplane and head out to Orlando to wrap up
this three match road swing for the Orange and Blue.
But fresh off that win and Wednesday night, things obviously
went very well there and just glad that we have
a little slight break in the heat. Yeah, it's been unbearable.
I did not It's felt like some of those summer

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days you and I spent.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Out around it's been brutal.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Where's the salted water melon?

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
That's a great question.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Salted water melon.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
I could do that, and I could do about thirteen
of those roles in a sitting.

Speaker 5 (01:32:42):
Yeah, yeah, carb up. I mean the number of calories
you were burning out there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Incredible, Especially my first couple of years out there, I
was losing weight left and right.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
Yeah, I'm sure, and then then the next four years.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Going we have something going here, Tommy. Where as long
as we get together and speak, good things happen with
this and the putting. As my mom would say, exactly.
And and you know, one could have said last Friday,
did you need to do a segment because they didn't
play over the weekend. Well, we tested it and it
came to fruition. On Wednesday night, FC Cincinnati travels to

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Montreal and not only get a win, but I thought, Tommy,
one of their more impressive wins on the season. We
had talked a lot about this team's defense. We've talked
about the scoring. We've talked about missing players due to
international duties. We've talked about is this team going to
make additions and then they come out on Wednesday night
and again put together one of their more complete games

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of the season. What went right or what else that
we haven't discussed? What went right on Wednesday night?

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Yeah, you know, I think it was a professional performance.
You know, so often in sport we talk about playing
games on paper, and it's never that easy on paper.
It was a bullout right f C Cincinnati taking place
in Eastern Conference, Montreal not and and the salary numbers
just happened to come out on Wednesday as well, and
they're the lowest payroll in the league. They have no

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designated players, they didn't even have their interim head coach.
I mean, I think it is the first time I've
called a match where you were on your third string
coach because they fired the head coach. The interim head
coach was suspended, so you're just looking down the match
for somebody who's willing to lead the team, and and
they look like they lack quality. Montreal did. FC Sintanty
got a little bit lucky early. There was a couple

(01:34:25):
of defensive breakdowns that you know, probably a better team
punishes them for, but that's okay, And then they got
the goals and and got a multi goal victory, and
I think that that was really important. I mean, Evander,
just an hour before kickoff was named to the All
Star team for the second year in a row, and
he played like an All Star. Two goals and assist.

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We finally saw loucal Or Shinal breakthrough with a goal,
which is awesome and hopefully that just opens the floodgates
for him. And you saw a couple of great assists
from from guys out wide with dere YEDLND did, with
what Lucas Engel did. So I think that you know
you're right. You had a very good team performance going
on the road. This team has done very well the

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last couple of years on the road. Since it started
twenty twenty three, they had more wins on the road
than any team in Major League Soccer. So I think
they answered the bill and they got a result that
they had to have in Montreal.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
When you look at offensively what they were able to
do on Wednesday night, it felt like they were just
on the attack all night. Eleven shots on goal, fifteen
shot attempts. Anytime you're putting that type of pressure on
a goalie at any level, you're going to start seeing success.
Was that just what Montreal offered and they took advantage

(01:35:43):
of it. Was it a fundamental shift that you just
saw again, it just felt like a squad that was
attacking more so than we've seen and getting obviously more
shots on goal.

Speaker 14 (01:35:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
I don't know that it was a fundamental shift per se,
but it was a do your job type situation, right
and create opportunities. And Kevin and I took about the
first half because the first couple saves the Jonathan cere Wall,
the goalkeeper from Montreal made, they weren't necessarily highlight reel saves.
They're pretty comfortable saves to be honest. But I said, look,
if you're getting these opportunities and you were testing him
albeit comfortable saves, sooner or later you're gonna make life

(01:36:16):
more difficult for him. Then those opportunities, as long as
you can keep creating them and they can keep coming,
they will get better.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
And obviously they did.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
And I think getting that goal before the end of
first half was really big and gave the team a
little bit of extra juice going into the dressing room
and then certainly coming out and scoring twice more to
go up three Noil. They would have loved to have
the clean sheet. Didn't finish that way, but no, I
think it was. It was a good job of guys
making the most of their opportunities. Of Kai and Kevin Denke,

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you know, kind of stretching the defense a little bit,
giving Evander some more pockets of space to move around,
and obviously Evander was firing on all cylinders and desertedly
had a had a very good match, you know, one
of the best we've seen from him in Orange and Blue.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
What does it say about the makeup of this roster,
not physically, but the mental makeup because we talked a
lot early in the season, it just didn't feel like
things were clicking. They had a lot of new pieces
that came in. They eventually figure it out. They get
red hot, and then after Columbus they run through a
rough stretch where it's like, man, are they going to
get out of this rut? And then they go and

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they beat a team in New England that hadn't lost
since the last time they played FC Cincinnati on the road.
They have a workmanlike, business like win against Montreal. How
strong is the mental makeup of this team? To understand
there are different waves of the season and to to
continue pushing forward. Does that start at the top of
the organization? Does that start with Pat Noonan? Is that

(01:37:43):
the makeup of the players individually? Where where does that
come from?

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
I think it's probably a little bit of each thing
that you just mentioned, right the general manager Chris Albright.
That goes through the head coach Bat Noonan, and then
that goes into the dressing room. And some of the
leaders and pats talked a lot about how many different
leaders and I asked him about Matt me Alasco specifically
on the pregame show last week or Wednesday night, I
should say, And you know, he talked about the great

(01:38:07):
job that Matt did. But even before Matt had the
captain's armband, he was acting like a captain, and guys
like DeAndrea Yetln act like a captain of being a
Wolbdolle acts like a captain. So you've a lot of
guys who you know put in leadership, who who you
know are in there to set examples, I think in
the dressing room. And you know, look the performances at

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the end of May going into the break simply we're
not good enough. And I think that the fact the
team has bounced back and gotten the six points. You're
right that that speaks to the core of this club's DNA,
and the team had didn't come together quickly at the
beginning of the year. That's not a problem for anybody.
There are some new faces out there, some new personalities,
you know, and new attacking pieces take time to come together.

(01:38:50):
But listen, we're at the end of Junie here. You
go to Orlando, get a result, and then you look
at how the calendar sets up with mostly home games
the rest of the way. If this team is gelling
and and really comes together in the second half of
the season and score goals and play like they played
at Montreal, then that's something you should be really excited
about and feel good about moving forward as to how

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it'll set them up for the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
If you look at at the Eastern Conference alone in
the MLS, ye, you go to Orlando City where you're
gonna be later today they have thirty three points, Columbus
has rebounded. They have thirty four, Nashville has thirty five,
FC has thirty six, Philadelphia has forty and oh, by
the way, the team in sixth place has Lionel MESSI
with twenty nine points, so it is double games in hand, right, right.

(01:39:37):
Is this one of the deepest or or most competitive
from a standing standpoint, from an Eastern Conference standpoint that
you can remember since since joining the MLS.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Yeah, I think so. I mean certainly in the last
couple of years, because I mean, look at the way
it was a New England. We're sitting there and FC
Cincinnati wins that game and Philadelphia is in a draw,
and you're like, all right, that's going to close the gap,
like this is perfect, right, and then Philadelphia scores that
ridiculous game winner in the ninety eighth minute or whatever
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
And it pushes it back to four.

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
And then it felt like all those teams you just
rattled off, you know, save Miami, you didn't play, you know,
all those teams won on Wednesday to keep everybody bunched up.
If Orlando win tomorrow, then they are right there with
like the standings change drastically, you know, as far as
what police you are in. So I think there's some

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some big battles, you know, ahead amongst these teams, and
I think that they are really good teams. Like you said, Miami,
Like what's gonna happen. They're in the Club World Cup
right now, so they have this extra scheduled congestion. You know,
where are they going to wash out as far as
their health is concerned. We're gonna find out because right
after the Club World Cup. Actually Semime I play him
twice in the month of July, you know, and I

(01:40:53):
think it's going to be very intriguing matchups. You know,
the stars aside, but as to how they are physically
after going through this run and the extra games that
they have played, so no, I think it is it
has to be as competitive as I can remember probably
since the team joined the league. As far as those
six teams you mentioned, with Miami at the back end

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of them, you know, all serious contenders to win the
Eastern Conference. Philadelphia if you saw the salary numbers that
came out, Philadelphia has the second lowest payroll in the
in the rating, they're right ahead of Montreal and and
they're a top decn conference with forty points, very much
in that supporter shield race. So, I mean, what they
have done has been so impressive. You know, they've sold

(01:41:36):
off a couple of players, they didn't replace them yet, obviously,
Tyber Rebo has been fantastic, So uh yeah, I think
I think it's exciting. I think, you know, it certainly
should set up a very exciting second half of the season,
as these teams are gonna fight and you're gonna have
to kind of be patient and remember that if if
you know, there's a bad result and after Tag dropped

(01:41:56):
to fifth after a night, well then the next week
might have a chance to jump right back up the second.
So yeah, it's going to be a very intriguing home
stretch of this season.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
I know FC Cincinnati will see Orlando at TQL Stadium
in September. You guys make the trip to Orlando for
this weekend. What do we know about Orlando and the
challenge that they possess tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
Yeah, listen, Tony, they are a goal scoring machine. They
are third in the league goals scored. Martino Hada leads
the way. He has six goals or sorry, nine goals.
He also has six assists. But there are other guys
up and down this roster eight goals, six goals, four goals,
four goals, who have punished teams this year. I think
for the Orange of Blue, really it all begins tomorrow night.

(01:42:42):
With the defense. You know, if you want to be
critical of the performance Wednesday night at Montreal, there were
some holes in the defense. So there are some mistakes.
I would say, I don't know if there was holes.
There was mistakes made that Montreal were not able to
punish them for, and the quality just wasn't there. If
you make those mistakes against Orlando, they are going to
punish you and make it a very difficult night. What

(01:43:02):
I think is interesting and I'm going to talk to
Pat about it tomorrow. You know, Pat's two zero to
one down in Orlando that has first ever win there.
They found success, But the last two times Orlando's come
to TIKO Stadium they've won. So I don't know why
there has been that discrepancy in the series, you know,
with the road teams finding success as of late, but
that has been the case. You know, I think that

(01:43:24):
actually Cincinnati has confidence in what they're doing scoring wise
right now, but they have to find a way to
shut down this this Orlando City team who has just
been prolific in the final third.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
It is the final road trip before you actually get
to come home for three to TQL Stadium. Those three
should be electric for Chicago, Columbus and then enter Miami
coming in. Are you at the point now in doing
this long enough? When you travel to cities, do you
have spots that that you're going to go or you
continuously trying new spots, Like what's the plan in Orlando
for you?

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
No, that's that's a great question. That's one of the
best questions you asked me. Thank you, Tony.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
But Orlando there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
Bad example because I don't have a spot I love
in Orlando. It just there's not something. Last year, my
Cleveland Papiliers were in town against the Magic in the playoffs,
so I went to the Magic and Cavs and and
and bypassed dinner, you know, had had arena food for
that one. So we don't have a go to spot
in Orlando. We sort of do, yeah, I mean and

(01:44:22):
we did because I've been back to the spot that
we went to in Montreal. Nashville have a great spot Seattle,
so there's a lot of places that we have. Philadelphia,
we have places that are that are automatic go tos, absolutely,
like the place in Philadelphia Counter Barb and Specials. Like
every single time I'm there, I think my name at
this point, So you know that that's a regular. So, yes,

(01:44:45):
there are some very regular spots. When we're in New Jersey,
I played Red Bulls. There's a bagel place I especially like,
so I always make a trip over there. So yeah,
I know there's there's some regular moves. Orlando does and
provide one of those, at least we haven't found one yet,
so we'll try something else on tonight. I think I

(01:45:05):
think Mexican food might be the move in Orlando. We'll see,
we'll see how that goes and uh and and we'll
go from there. So, you know, Kevin, Kevin could be
pretty critical of the places, so there's a lot of
pressure on me to find the right place for dinner
because he'll just destroy it. I don't but but we've
fortunately had had pretty good success. I mean the cities
we go to are pretty great. I found actually a

(01:45:27):
great place last year in Miami or Fort Lauderdale. We
stay in Fort Lauderdale when we play down there, like
old school Italian Miami vibe, uh type place like kind
of turns into a nightclub after dinner. It's a while,
so we'll definitely be going back there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
All right, Well, here's to you finding your Orlando spot
on this trip.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
Tom I appreciate that. I hope so, because, uh, you
know that that just sets the tone for the whole weekend. Right,
people ask me my favorite city to go to, Well,
it all starts with Friday night dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
So you know there's there's a lot of factors including
the Friday night dinner. So hockkeep you boys posted and
we'll look forward to doing this again next week.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
It really starts with us. This is set in motion
what needs to happen this weekend, and it certainly appreciated. Tommy,
you're the best. I look forward to talking again next
week after another three points about a three game homestand
coming up. Thank you and enjoy the call, And Jorgan
says chairs Tommy, that's Tom Gallader, the voice of FC Cincinnati.

(01:46:25):
As we get rolling here our number three, Bob Man
Jean from UC and Novacare will join us next Cincy
three to sixty thanks to Penn Station on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Now you're back on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Welcome back. It is since E three sixty rolling along
our number three thanks to Penn Station you heard it
there in the last segment. Who we're going to welcome
in right now, our guy from the University of Cincinnati
and Novacare who joins us each and every week. It
is Bob Man Jean. He's here right now. Hi, Bob.

Speaker 6 (01:47:02):
How are you great?

Speaker 7 (01:47:04):
Tony?

Speaker 28 (01:47:04):
How are you? We just finished our morning practice, kids
are in the weight room, and then we're begun for
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Man, what a time that Friday. That Friday lift and
workout and then being done for the weekend was always
a good feeling.

Speaker 7 (01:47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:47:19):
Well, we're off next week because of fourth of July.
So we just finished our first three weeks, then we're
off a week and then we come back for four more.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
So yeap, rocking and rolling, Tony. It has been dreadfully,
dreadfully hot over the last week, and we actually used
our time last week to talk about hydration and what
goes into to those extreme temperatures and for the athletes
that aren't at the professional level, what to look out for.

(01:47:50):
From your standpoint at the trainer level, would you rather
play or practice in extreme heat conditions or extreme cold conditions?
Do you have a preference, because I would imagine that
that both what would bring hurdles. Obviously, in the heat,
you're worried about dehydration and fluids and cramping and and

(01:48:13):
other things, whereas in the cold, maybe you're worried about
warming up effectively and making sure you're ready to go.
Do you have a preference from your standpoint on which
you'd rather go about hot or cold?

Speaker 28 (01:48:25):
You know, over the years, you've you know, you know,
you've seen both conditions, and in essence, you know you've
got to learn to adapt to both conditions. And again
from my perspectives, I would say that you know, when
I get the cold weather, yeah, and you have to
warm up a little more, and you have to make
sure you have sideline heaters, you have to have benchwarmers.

(01:48:47):
In today's world, it's not like two, three, four or
two or three decades ago where you didn't have heat
and benches, you didn't have blowers. So that you end up,
you know, in those cold conditions, you've got a lot
of tools in your toolbox to keep the kids warm,
keep them loose, And so I think the cold could

(01:49:07):
be a little bit easier to manage because you know,
if you're in the heat, you know now and you've
played in the heat, you know what that's like. You know,
you've got to deal with giving ivs. You've got to
make sure hydration's correct correct, You've got to make sure
that you're keeping a really careful eye on their sweat rate.
You got to make sure that if they start getting
on lethargic that you know, you intervene as quick as

(01:49:30):
you can. And of course, you know you want to
avoid obviously, we don't want to have kids have heat stroke.
The problem in college and professional sports is that we're
not going to call ESPN and say, hey, we're not
playing today at one o'clock in the afternoon, we want
you to move the game and the sun goes down,
or you know, you're not going to call Fox and say, hey,

(01:49:51):
we're going to move this game today. Because of the
heat temperature, you have to accommodate to that, and so
over the years, both in heat in cold, we've learned
to accommodate with things like pregame ivs, certain supplements like gatorade, lights,
and other products that are extra salt or extra potassium

(01:50:13):
or magnesium so that we can avoid the issues with
the heat. And the same thing with the cold. The
same thing with the cold.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
You know, you've got to we.

Speaker 28 (01:50:23):
Have an ability to, you know, modify the environment that
the kids are in. I worry about the high school kids.
I worry about the moms and dads who want to
go out and play pickleball because they don't have access
to ivs or they don't have access to gator lights,
so they don't have access to the staff that can

(01:50:47):
be there and monitor them as they're going through the workout.
They can do things like making sure they're hydrating properly
before they go into the heat, make sure that they're
pacing themselves. Make sure that you know, one of the
great products they could use as an adult, even though
it's meant for children, it's pediolite because PA likes a
great supplement addition to your sweat rate. So you know,

(01:51:13):
if they take their times and they you know, exercise right,
and make sure they keep an eye if they get lethargic,
if they notice that they've stopped sweating, if they've noticed.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
That their heart rates up.

Speaker 28 (01:51:24):
They have to get out of that heat and start
to cool down, and you need to do it pretty quickly.
So you know, inevitably every year we are going to
run into people that are going to pass away because
they didn't take the prevention with it, and they get
to the point where you can go from heat exhaustion
to heat stroke in the snap of a finger, and

(01:51:47):
people just wait a little too long to start into
the cooling phase and the rehydration phase, and then all
of a sudden you end up with a cardiac event
and then you go downhill and you really have issues.
So people really in this type of weather need to
be precautious.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
I know it's always the same with cramps that if
you start the cramp, then you've already waited too long
to make sure you're hydrating. When you mentioned the instances
where you can catch yourself and know that you're overheating,
what are the steps that you're taking to try to
get that temperature back down. What does that look like
if you get off the field or you get off
the court, and you come back in, how are you

(01:52:25):
properly making sure that these athletes get cooled down.

Speaker 28 (01:52:29):
If you're lethargic, if you note your sweat rate has dropped,
where you gain dry skin, I mean cold shower, okay,
bath with.

Speaker 7 (01:52:42):
Ice water.

Speaker 28 (01:52:43):
You've got to cool your body, and you've got to
do it pretty quickly. That's why when we were in camp,
how many cold tubs did we have? We had a
big but we had a big swimming pool filled with
probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a thousand pounds of ice,
and even then when the players were getting in and
then that ice was melting at a very high rate,
so that you've got to call it. You know, this

(01:53:06):
year work in the Flying Ping Marathon, you know, with
Aaron and Greg and Lizzy and myself. You know, we
had a young girl come in who had a core
temperature of one hundred and five and the bottom no
actually I think she was about one hundred and six,
and we had to dip her right away and it
took twenty minutes to get her back down to a

(01:53:26):
regulated one oh two along with the IV so and
again that's a recreational athlete, you know, here's a girl
who runs cross country to high school that then all
of a sudden ran into an issue running the marathon.
And if we hadn't caught that in time, very lethargic,
no sweating. When she came into the medical area, you know,

(01:53:47):
eyes kind of rolled back, quick pulse, so you're looking
at trying to get those symptoms under control as soon
as you can. You know, like I said, cold shower,
cool your body down, or get in a tub with
you know, with ice, so you're cooling your body down.
But again, you need to be drinking the whole time.

(01:54:09):
Don't go to play pickleball, or don't go playing tennis,
or don't go playing golf if you don't have water
bottles with you and you're sucking down that water that
whole time. Don't think, oh, way to half an hour
and then take my next drink. No, you've got to
be drinking continuously because of your sweat brink. You know.
Last Saturday or was it Sunday? I played out of

(01:54:31):
Kenwood Country Club and I made it fourteen holes and
after fourteen holes, after like my shirt got dried, I noticed,
you know, my mouth was dropping.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
Boom.

Speaker 7 (01:54:40):
I quit.

Speaker 28 (01:54:41):
I was done, and I had already gone through like
three bottles of water, four bottles of water, and get
out of the sun, get into the you know, get
into shade, and just keep drinking and try to cool down.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
On the other end of it. And I know that
that it's hard to think about right now with how
hot it is outside. But what about the opposite. What
about if you're playing an extreme cold or you're doing
something athletically in the extreme cold, and you've got to
come off and you've got to get warmed up. What
are the steps you're taking to try to restore maybe
some of the body heat that that athletes would lose.

Speaker 28 (01:55:15):
That's where you know you're playing. Let's be theoretically, you're
playing high school football game. It's extremely cold out there,
and you got to worry about skin exposure, so you're
trying to cover the kids up with, you know, with
this sideline jacket or whatever. You're trying to get a
blower there because of those finger exposures. You know, by
the end of the first quarter, you're already starting to

(01:55:36):
feel numbness in your fingertips. The other thing is, like
you just said, Let's say you know, I'm playing defense
and the offense is on the field for seven eight minutes.
I better stay warm on a bike, or I better
be stretching, or I better be using some hot packs
to keep warm, because I get back out there on
the field and the next thing I know, I popped
my hamstringer, I popped my achilles tendon because I was

(01:55:59):
sitting there and that cold weather hitts you pretty quick.
And you've played in cold weather, you know what I mean.
I think you were with us year we played U
Caught up there where you remember that tunnel that they
had where you went into the visitor's locker room and
the wind coming out of that tunnel it felt like
it was like twenty below zero. And you know, we
luckily we had heaters and we brought the hot pack

(01:56:22):
machines out and we kept everybody as warm as we could.
But the bottom line is you've got to keep moving.
You just can't sit on the bench and wait for
the next, you know, next series. You got to keep moving.
And you know, soccer is even harder because you know,
you got the eleven kids playing on the field and
they're moving the whole time. But then you've got these

(01:56:43):
other guys sitting on the bench, and all of a sudden,
the kid on the field gets hurt. You have to
do an injury some and this poor kinsman standing on
the sideline for like, you know, forty five minutes, Well
there's no way they can be warmed up and getting
in the game, you know, really quick. So you know
they have to take their time when they get on
the field, they have to take their time, you know,

(01:57:05):
getting back into movement.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
I know you mentioned in speaking earlier about how the
body feels or what you're looking what from a parent
standpoint or even an athlete that could be listening to this,
if they're doing something in the heat at a very
high level, in this type of heat, what can they
maybe notice about themselves? What can they start to feel?
What can maybe a parent even watch out for that

(01:57:29):
maybe they can get out ahead of something before something
bad would happen.

Speaker 28 (01:57:32):
Again, One, make sure that they are hydrated to the
max before they get on the field. They have to
be hydrated the point that they still feel like they
almost have to pee number two once they get out
there and start moving and playing on a daylight to
any day this week, we've had where the HEATINGDX is
one hundred and some every fifteen minutes, stop, make sure

(01:57:55):
you're sucking down water. Okay, don't wait till the coade says, hey,
it's time to take a break. When it's one hundred
and six one hundred and seven degree heat in decks,
every fifteen minutes, you're stopping and making sure you're hydrating
because you can't take enough time to hydrate because by
the time you drink it gets into your stomach, gets

(01:58:16):
absorbed into the blood system, and gets to where it
needs to go. It's going to take at least fifteen
to twenty minutes. Don't let a coach say, hey, we're
going to go for an hour. No, that's stupid. I mean,
I'm going to be very blunt. That is stupid. And
hopefully those days are over. When you're one hundred and
six hundred and eight one hundred and ten degree heat

(01:58:36):
in decks and how many times you go to camp
with Kelly and even Brian and Dantonio and Butch, you
know it would be hey, coach, you know we're at
one hundred and ten air temperature, We've got the humidity factor.
We're doing one drill for ten to fifteen minutes. We
got a break, We're doing another drill ten to fifteen minutes.

(01:58:57):
We're doing a break. And if I can control that
of a college coaches level, then these high school coaches
have to learn. These literal league coaches half to learn.
Otherwise you're mitigating. You can't mitigate the problem if you're
not rehydrating, and the simplest mitigation activity is hydration.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Bob Manjeen from the University of Cincinnati and novacare Bob,
you're the best? How much are you looking forward to
the final ride here for Aaron Rodgers and your Pittsburgh
Steelers Tony.

Speaker 28 (01:59:30):
I'm so excited because he agrees this as his last year.
Can you know he's got to give it at all? Plus,
the Steelers reoriented their receiving corps basically centered around the
way he plays. So I think that, you know, as
long as the offensive line stays healthy, you know, very positive.
They made some good defensive changes over the UH over

(01:59:52):
the summer, so we'll see. And again, I think the
Bengals dide an outstanding job with getting their offense to
up and ready to go, and hopefully their defense can
can handle Aaron Rodgers when they play. That's it, Bob
man g Of course, I'd love to bet Tony, but
we can't bet because it's illegal for me to bet.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Yeah, that's illegal. Are we let it like bet like
a round of golf? Or can we bet like a
dinner or is that a legal Well.

Speaker 7 (02:00:19):
I'm not sure we can do. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
We'll talk off air then we'll talk off air. Okay,
Bob the best Man, thank you so much. As always,
we'll talk again next week. That is Bob Man Jean
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Speaker 6 (02:00:57):
The reality is they're probably not.

Speaker 14 (02:01:00):
He dissects the local sports scene.

Speaker 3 (02:01:02):
They're not consistent enough the way up fourth grader dissects
Acrod not reliably.

Speaker 4 (02:01:07):
Lowegger to day three on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
Stuck in the same day to day route. Hey, welcome
back since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati
Sports Station. Just a few minutes here, we do have
some Reds news. The Reds have activated outfield or Austin Hayes. Yeah,

(02:01:34):
Austin is back. Jake Fraley powerful Austin and Cincinnati. Jake
Frayley has been added to the injured list retroactive to
June twenty fourth, with a right shoulder spring Man. So
there's must have been on that dive against the wall.
I guess as I was wonder or not of the

(02:01:56):
dive where he missed it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
You're right, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, because I think
against the wall it was his left shoulder. Was it
his right shoulder or left sholder the sprint, I don't
right shoulder. I believe right shoulder, so it might have
been the dive on the Aaron Judge, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
That feels that month ago ago. I have to also
say this the Yankees, because I'm a Seinfeld guy. They
are honoring their assistant to the Traveling Secretary with a
George Costanza bobblehead. If you've ever watched any Seinfeld, it's
actually the repliffic Costanzas sleeping under his desk. It's unbelievable.

(02:02:31):
They do a Seinfeld Night every year and they always
kill it. They that was cool.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
I actually saw a George Costanza Yankees Jersey when I
was at the game on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Fantastic. Which tip of the cap to the Yankee fan
for doing that? Take my money.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
I do have to bring up one thing before we
get to Moeggar.

Speaker 14 (02:02:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
You know, Hour three is brought to you by our
good friends at Penn Station. Correct Penn Station East Coast
subs uh. So, yesterday after work around six o'clock, sure
I was. I was feeling hungry, I was feeling parched,
and so I said, you know what, I'm going to
head right over here to Penn Station thirty seconds away,
thirty seconds away, right after work. I'm gonna stop it.

(02:03:12):
I'm gonna give me a chicken karaaki, and then I'm
gonna be about my way. And I walk in and
I make my order, and I'm standing there in line
waiting to pay. And I looked to my right and
I see a member of the local ball club, a
Cincinnati Red, standing to my right. He also had a

(02:03:32):
hankering for Penn Station. I'm not gonna reveal this player's name.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
I don't want to. I don't want to ask them
to come on the show. I mean, I got crushed
for not getting Bootie Brass there was a lot. That's true,
but apparently that Penn Station is the place to know,
that's where you want to be.

Speaker 7 (02:03:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
There was a lot of people there, oh okay, and
nobody had recognized him, So I didn't want to draw
attention to him because he wasn't taking like take it.
He wasn't a takeout. He was sitting down to eat,
So I didn't want to draw attention to him. But
I did think about, you know, introducing myself saying you know,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
No, my only question.

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
I think that just says a lot that even big
leaguers go to Penn Station.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
Now, I do have one question. Okay, Earlier in the show,
you shared that last night you were driving around you
had a hankering for a chocolate chip cookie. Yep, the
obvious would be, why didn't you just get cookies and
the chocolate chip?

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
This is the pensation. This is a great question. This
is what happened. I was sitting there and I was
checking out from Pen Station, and I saw the cookies
and I almost grabbed one, and I said, nope, I'm
gonna be good. I'm gonna have this chicken KARAOKEI And
that's it. I'm not gonna go eating eating the sweets,

(02:04:41):
and then like a photographic memory, all I could see
every time I closed my eyes was those chocolate chip cookies.
So for hours and hours it was like cookies, cookies, cookies, cookies.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
And I gave in. I broke.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
I'm a weak man, and so I went somewhere else
instead having all the way back up to Penn Station.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
I shouldn't have. I should have went back to Penn
State Fair Fair.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
But you, thank you our friends at Penn Station, the
Penn Station cookies that made me crave that later on
in the night.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
There are some places you go where it's like, man,
it kind of just depends on the day if it's
good or not, or if it kind of hits the spot.
We talked about that earlier. Penn Station always is good,
always hits the spot always, and it helps. It's thirty
seconds away from us. Uh Moagger is also about fifteen
seconds away from us, sitting at his desk eagerly awaiting
his opportunity for quick Kits to leads into the Mowagger Show,

(02:05:32):
which happens next and Quick Kits coming up on ESPN
fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Penn Station.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Since the three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's
sports station.

Speaker 5 (02:05:47):
It's time.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
Yeah, since the three sixty quickts on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
Most here looking for Moe's already here. He's He's in
the building here. You don't have to look any for
He's getting ready for the Moweager Show, scaring I'm getting ready, man,
What are you coming up on the show today?

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
The Bengals are staying in Cincinnati?

Speaker 26 (02:06:04):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (02:06:05):
Yeah, Yeah, the Bengals are staying in Cincinnati. Bengals are
staying in Cincinnati, which we should be excited about, sure,
and we should be relieved. No more stadium talk, at
least for a while. I'm gonna prepare you for two
thousand and thirty five.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
Oh, let's go. I'm gonna prepare you.

Speaker 6 (02:06:21):
Get ready. I've already decided I'm taking a sabbatical in
twenty thirty four because I know it's coming.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
It's going to be the ten year anniversary of the
World Series champs So.

Speaker 6 (02:06:31):
Well, the ten year anniversary of Terry Francona's first World
Series Championship team Terry the Magnificent Terry. Yeah, Terry the
Magnificent Terry, the Clairvoyant, Terry, the Infallible. I don't know
what we're going with there.

Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
So how many titles are we celebrating in twenty thirty five?
It's a good question, that might be I might put
that on the poll. Yeah, how many titles by twenty
thirty five? Will we be celebrating A couple? Big twelve
probably sure, maybe a national title, Big twelve Football Championship,
Kelly Cup.

Speaker 6 (02:07:03):
Kelly, I listened to the Richard Patino Show last night.
I like Richard Patino. Yeah, yeah, So what do we
have coming up on the show? Ellie de la Cruz
is not an All Star finalist, which I have two
things to say about this. I'll tell you what those
two things are coming up in just a bit. I
am going to make a prediction about the Bengals in
twenty twenty six. Tony Husband from MLS Season Pass. Oh,

(02:07:26):
Apple TV joins us at five twenty and we're gonna
give away some tickets to go see Old Dominion and
the Reds and Marlins. Wow, yeah, big time stuff. How
about that big time stuff?

Speaker 14 (02:07:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
Have you ever been like one of those guys like
you don't want to see your hitter in the home
run derby because it messes up their swing.

Speaker 6 (02:07:44):
So we're going to discuss this today because there is
no There are hitters who have competed in the home
run derby, yeah, and then fallen off a cliff.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:07:54):
There are hitters who have competed in the home run
derby and then they have been okay, They've continued to
produce a high level. There is no concrete evidence to
suggest that if you compete in the home run derby
you're doomed to fail. So no, I want to see
Ellie in the home run dir Well, you got a
kune was going to do it, the big dumper, the
big dumper. Cale Raley's going to do it for a

(02:08:14):
better nickname in baseball right now.

Speaker 3 (02:08:15):
Absolutely not, especially when he's hitting thirty plus home runs.
Better nickname in American life right now than big Dumper,
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (02:08:21):
I don't think there is.

Speaker 3 (02:08:22):
But you you pointed out the other day Ellie's never
played on Sunday Night Baseball. Uh huh. The All Star
voting is brutal in itself. If I got a chance
to get Ellie on the on the big stage and
get in the home run Derby. I want him there
one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (02:08:36):
If he wants to do it, I'm all for it. Yeah,
now it will be worth paying attention to. You know
Todd Fraser, Well, Todd Fraser competed in twenty fifteen and
acknowledged I was wore out and it was part of
it was he was the All Star Game ambassador, he
was an All Star busy way, it was a busy
week for him. But he's like that wore me out
and he did go through a little bit of an

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early second half slide. And so you know, Ellie, he's
a guy who plays every day. Man, he plays every game,
and so all right, doesn't make sense for him specifically
to do this. But if the answer is yes, go
for it. And if it's something he wants to do,
how could you say no to it? And he wants
to be on a big stage, that's Baseball's biggest in

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season stage. Sure, I think the home run derby's a
bigger deal than the All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
I do too, So let's go for it. I love it.
Speaking of going for it, how about our guys Zach
Klaris still doing it? You see his highlights last night
twenty five thirty three thirty four total touchdowns. Yeah, guy's unbelievable.
Do you wish you would have gone to Canada? Probably?
I want to know today, and I want to get
Zach on soon because they're playing last night in front
of thirty three thousand. That place looked electric. They're three
and zero huge up there. He's unbelievable. He's won their

(02:09:43):
MVP awards, He's won championships there. Do you think he's
ever got the call from the NFL from a team.
I don't know if it's to be a starter, but
I wonder, like, hey, you're going to come in and
compete to be our backup because you put together that
type of resume for that long. Yeah, I would have
to imagine there's been a call or too. But you
mentioned he's he's king right now.

Speaker 6 (02:10:02):
So what would you rather be Zach Khlario's or Jake
Browning Zach Khilaire's. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
I'd take Jake Browning. Plus, I don't know. I don't know, man,
I don't know financially like a player at his level
from the CFL, what from a payment standpoint?

Speaker 6 (02:10:15):
Yeah, I'm sure we could find that out. I've never
thought about that, But like I if I wonder, when
you know Zach and we've had him on our show,
I think it'd be interesting to ask him, would you
trade all of your CFL success where?

Speaker 3 (02:10:33):
I mean, he is a big deal in can He's
the third highest paid CFL player at half a million
Loony's dollars. Such a good point. How does that get transferred?
I don't know how that gets transferred?

Speaker 6 (02:10:45):
So what does Jake Browning make more than that? Okay,
I'd rather be Jake Browning?

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Yeah, but like in all seriousness, but I wonder, like
from endorsements and things like that, he's probably yeah up there,
but still I would say backup, probably is making more money.

Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
So he's been an MVP, a champion, and he has
been a starter in that league for twelve years. His
last year here was eleven, I think, right, so twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years. Would he rather have that or one shot
in the NFL that included no guarantee he would ever start?

Speaker 3 (02:11:13):
Yeah? Fair question, that's tough.

Speaker 9 (02:11:15):
It is.

Speaker 6 (02:11:17):
How much you looking forward to the Big Red Machine
this weekend? I think it's cool that they do it.
That's obviously not a team that I grew up with. Sure,
I think there's Pete's not there, Morgan's not there, David
Concepcion's not going to be there, and so the more
you do these, the fewer guys you're going to have.
But I think there's always something awesome about celebrating the

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greatest in your franchise's history. And while I think there's
a tendency that some of us have to kind of
roll our eyes that they're bringing these guys back at again,
it's still one of the most famous baseball teams ever,
still might be the greatest baseball team ever, and you're
only going to get so many more times that you
can do this. So I think these things are more
fun though, when they occur against the backdrop of a

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good season team. In twenty fifteen, the Reds brought back
the ninety squad twenty fifth anniversary the nineteen ninety team.
The team itself that year stunk, yeah, and so it
wasn't as cool as it is if you're bringing players
back from the past while your team in the present
day is pretty good. And it remains to be seen
how good the Reds are going to be. I was

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sorely disappointed by Wednesday Night's game but this is a
big series this weekend against the team they're chasing, and
so I think it's fun to bring back those guys.
You know, the Reds get criticized in some circles for
dwelling on the past a little bit too much. Those
same people will say, well, the Bengals never do enough
for their former players, so what's the harm. And if
it sells some tickets and fans can applaud Ken Griffy

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and Sajar Geronimo and Johnny Bench, there's no harm in
that whatsoever. I think it's a lot of fun, but
I think it's more fun when it happens when the
season itself is good, and hopefully this season itself turns
out to be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:12:50):
Adre's also helping by not throwing a left handed starter
this weekend.

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
Certainly does.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
Your ranking NFL draft would be at the top NBA
draft or Major League Baseball draft.

Speaker 6 (02:13:02):
NBA, we know more of the guys.

Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
I think baseball is changing in a bit, though, because
it's not like they get drafted and you don't hear
from him for four years now. Yeah, and I was
looking back at last year's NBA draft, I don't recognize
many of the names at all. Yeah, and I know
that a lot of you're getting guys that go overseas
and guys like Johnny Brum who are great in college
don't really translate to the NBA. Like there were guys
drafted in the first round that I'm like, what, Like

(02:13:26):
I remember, like the guy from Baylor edge Combe, Yeah,
got drafted third. I didn't think he was dominant when
he played against uc Rutgers has two guys in the
top five and they won eight games in the league.

Speaker 6 (02:13:37):
Part of it's also like the NBA Finals ended Sunday. Yeah,
and so you don't even get her breath and it's like,
wait a minute, Okay, what now?

Speaker 3 (02:13:45):
And they can't figure out the hot situation. It's clunkying
in ways, and baseball I think is helping because guys
are getting to the.

Speaker 6 (02:13:52):
Majors quicker and college baseball is more high profile. You
know what you changed my mind? It's the baseball draft.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (02:13:58):
Hockey draft is tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:14:00):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:14:00):
Now, I watched before last year they did that the
Sphere at Las Vegas.

Speaker 6 (02:14:05):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:14:05):
It was awesome. Yeah, it was actually cool.

Speaker 6 (02:14:07):
Kenny Chesney is playing the Sphere right now in Vegas.

Speaker 31 (02:14:10):
Yeah, that'd be cool. If if somebody wants to take
me to that, that'd be all right. That would be
one I'd like to say. Have you guys ever gotten
a bloody nose while you're on the air? No, No,
that just that just happened. Oh man, kind of m
I A for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 6 (02:14:23):
I threw up on.

Speaker 3 (02:14:26):
Yeah, you had the dumb button.

Speaker 6 (02:14:27):
So on a Monday, the day before, my wife and
I had gone to a we had eaten the same thing.
I'm not going to say where we got it from,
but we had eaten the same thing. And I was
on the air. I had been on the air for
like twenty minutes, and I started to not feel great right,
and then, I mean soon thereafter I knew it was

(02:14:49):
coming to a guest and I was hitting the button
and vomiting in a can, And so I did everything
I could. I like, I'm Michael Jordan, flew game through
this show. And I get off the and I call home.
I was getting the car and call home just say hey,
I'm coming home. And my wife is like, I feel
like someone killed me, and I'm like, what's going on.
She's explained what she was going through. I'm like, well,

(02:15:10):
I think we have food poisoning. I just vomited all
over the place. Crazy thing is hearing that that's what
everybody wants to hear hearing that. That's not the most
impressive vomiting story I've ever known from you, because you
put together one in New Orleans one year where I
think you missed like five seconds of a conversation and
you picked right back up where we were at the
absent house. I remember this.

Speaker 5 (02:15:30):
I do it too.

Speaker 3 (02:15:31):
I was shocked.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
I met Tony once in New Orleans. I forget what
I was doing.

Speaker 3 (02:15:36):
We we got there and you had to do like
a radio hit that night. So I was just in
New Orleans by myself.

Speaker 6 (02:15:41):
I met Tony at a place called the Absent Howns.

Speaker 3 (02:15:43):
And it was my goal to get you caught up
to where I was quickly, and you did.

Speaker 6 (02:15:46):
And he gave me a glass of absent and my
I think my buddy joined us, and yeah, I grabbed
the garbage.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
Can, fish conversation, puked and then jump right back in
the conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:15:56):
Conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:15:57):
More of that is next to Cincinnati Sports Station. Have
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