Cincy 360 w/ Tony Pike & Austin Elmore -- 8/20/25

Tony and Austin talk about the Reds big win, Tony is LIVE at Bengals Training Camp, they take your calls and TalkBacks, check in with Mo, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good afternoon and welcome in. It's Sincy three sixty. If
it sounds just a little different, it's because for one
final time, Yeah, we're down here Bengals training camp, our
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(00:41):
the Bengals training camp and this continued support of the
Bengals all these many years. It's football. It feels like
football in the air. We've got overcast skies, there's a
breeze blowing today. All we're missing is the team, which
we'll be out here at one point thirty this after
noon practicing, Yes, a one thirty start time to get

(01:03):
ready for that one o'clock start time on Saturday in
the final preseason game home for the Bengals against the Colts.
I am Tony Pike, Austin Elmore is with us in
the Kenwood Studio. Mos gonna be down here for Quick
Hits and our Number three and then his show is
going to be live at training camp as well. So
six straight hours coming up from Bengals training camp. We

(01:26):
have a lot in which we'll talk about with Bengals
training camp before we get into that. Austin, how are
you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm good man.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
How are you good? You're good? Everything going well?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah? Oh well yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
How was Dimond?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
It depends what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
How was Diamond Dog Night last?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Diamond Dog Knight was fantastic? Man, it was uh, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
We did have a rain delay, so I had PTSD
of Bristol. But what was funny is that it never
actually rained, so that's always great. Yeah, the threat of
rain was there, but I got to see the Omaha
Storm Chasers. Okay, the Triple, A affiliate of the Kansas
City Royals, take on the Columbus Clippers, and since the
Clippers are an affiliate of Cleveland, I root against the Clippers, right,

(02:13):
I don't root for the Clippers. I rooted against him.
You remember Big Christmas John Kinzie? No, Well, he was there.
He's playing first base. How about the sixth overall pick
in the draft last year, Jack CAGLIONI.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
He was a part of that.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
He's on a rehab assignment with Triple A Omaha right now.
And i'll tell you what. They destroyed Columbus last night.
Four runs in the first two and the second, another
in the third. We left a little bit early. It
was like nine to two or something like that, but
it was great. I paid fifty cents for five hot dogs.
I housed him immediately. I didn't eat like all day.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Later.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I finished with just five, just finished with five. But yeah,
it was a success.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Some other things going on, Let's get to some news
around the sports world. Arch Manning came out and said, hey,
I don't know what Archie was talking about. My future
is still unclear. I'm going to weigh my options. So
not so fast on arch Manning foregoing the NFL Draft
next year. And although we're anointing him already, he's still

(03:18):
got a full season to play, which is crazy to me.
But the team they open up with, the Ohio State Buckeyes.
How about this stat Austin. I found this that with
Julian saying, yeah, starting for the Buckeyes saying here the
last twenty years, when a quarterback makes his first start

(03:38):
against the number one team in the country, he's zero
to eighteen. Oh really, how about that nugget?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
How many of those quarterbacks have been favored because Ohio
State is favored?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
If I'm not mistaken, that's a good point. Yeah, that's
a good point.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
I would like to know that stat. But that's that's
not surprising. Yeah, let know what's surprised by a stat
like that?

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
What's that noise? Um, somebody's like the.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Doorbell at the door. Might be Mike's doorbell.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Mike's doorbell.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Some one's at the door. Check the door.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, somebody checked the door.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
We uh we uh. We also have the unfortunate news
yesterday Austin Gigsel James, the leading scorer of the Cincinnati
Bearcats last year under wes Miller, is officially out on
the roster. There was a lot of speculation over the
last couple of weeks about his status with the team,
but Gizzle James is out, of course. The son of

(04:34):
Edger and James finished last year as the leading scorer
for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Wes Miller said Gigsel James has
been dealing with personal issues throughout the summer. We removed
him from the team last month. He is currently not
a member of our basketball program. As this is a
personal matter, I will have no further comment at this time.

(04:54):
That is the latest from Clifton, where Gigsel James is
no longer with the team. We're gonna spend a majority
of today talking about the Cincinnati Bengals. We'll get some
Reds talking early since the Bengals don't come out on
the field until one thirty this afternoon. But uh, it's
hard not to like what you saw last night from
the Cincinnati Reds because Austin, to me, if you were

(05:18):
one of those that stayed awake to watch the game
last night, it felt every bit of a game that
was gonna come back and get away from me. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
They gave up a four to one lead with a
run scoring in the seventh and the eighth to tie
it up, and you just kind of felt like, uh,
here we go again. But to the Reds credit, they
answered in the ninth with a TJ. Friedel sack fly
and then a Gavin Lux big time double that scored

(05:45):
key Brian Hayes. Reds shut the door in the ninth.
They win it six'. Four another monster night From, andohar
who Scored llie de La cruz from first on singles
the fifth inning in a double in the fourth. Inning
Noelve marte rbi double in the fourth also homered in

(06:07):
the second. Inning we've said it. Before currently The red's
best hitter And Hunter green back to back, starts he's
been phenomenal twelve strikeouts last. Night gave up just three six,
hits three earned, runs but again struck out twelve over
six and a. Third hard not to like what you
saw From Hunter. Green and you knew going in that

(06:29):
they needed to win to keep pace because it was
a later. Start The mets had already beaten The Washington,
nationals so The reds keep that one game back. Distance
in the Wild card they moved to sixty seven and.
Sixty but a good night last night for The. Reds
AND i thought battle a little bit of adversity in
a game that you were already Waiting austin to, say
well there goes another one that got away from this.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Team, YEAH i mean huge For Hunter green to be
able to kind of put the team on his. Back
that's what we've been asking for and looking For hunter to,
do and he performed at that level and they were
able to give him some run. Support and then When Luis,
may who didn't make it easy because he never does,
now did get that double play and then gave up
the home run To Joe, adele who looked awesome at the.

(07:11):
Plate after, that The reds got right back up off the.
Mat they didn't, panic and that to me was maybe
the most impressive, thing the way that they answered in
the ninth against a good closer in Ken Lee, jansen
who's pitched in almost one thousand big league, games they
were able to draw some. Walks don't know if he
was fully healthy or, not but especially big considering you

(07:31):
go into tonight's game With Nick, martinez who has been
a mixed bag as of, late and you're going up Against,
usaykkuch who's a left hander WHO i, said you, Say, Kakuch,
Cacucci what do you?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
SAY i, Said.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
COCOUCH i don't want to get in. Trouble, okay, anyways
but he's a left, hander and we know this team's
inconsistencies with left. Handers here's this. Though over his last three,
appearances he's given up more hits Than Nick. Martinez he's
walked five more batters Than Nick, martinez but he has
struck out seventeen batters with a five point four zero

(08:08):
earned run average over his last Three so hopefully The
reds can continue their strong ways over the last couple
of weeks against the bullpen or against the left handed.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Hitting another couple baseball out of the storylines from, yesterday
The cups swept the series a doubleheader against The Milwaukee,
brewers which is always good to. See The, mets as,
mentioned beat The Washington Nationals braves with a big comeback
win over The White, sox and The yankees clubbed a
franchise tying record nine home. Runs nine home runs for

(08:41):
The yankees and a thirteen to three win last night
over The Tampa.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Bay, rays second time The yankees have done that this, year.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yes second time with nine homers in a. Game other
late night, action The diamondbacks beat The guardian six' five
And the padres after a loss Against the giant today
Before the padres bounce back and Beat the giants. Last
night what else is happening in the?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
World sport you can't Forget About, John Wall. John Walls
john wall. Has retired.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
He's, done yeah. HE'S gone i was Looking.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
At john wall's basketball. Reference page do you know that
one of his Nicknames Was. OPTIMIST dime i.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
LIKE that i.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
LIKE that, i mean.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's Unbelievable For john, wall's career averaged eighteen point seven points,
per game nine assists, per game a forty three percent
field goal or forty three, percent shooter a thirty two
percent three, point shooter and Five Time, All STAR all,
Nba Twice All, Rookie Team All, defensive TEAM and i

(09:48):
think was paid one hundred and twenty six million dollars
to play forty games For The.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Houston, rockets incredible which was kind.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Of amazing what a what a contract?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That, is yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
The world, Of. Golf austin How about rory McElroy is
a coming Off of. Masters win he has the second
shortest odds to win This Week's tour Championship. In, atlanta
oh here's the. Crazy thing, in second his odds are
five times Longer Than. Scotty scheffler's, Right Now scotty scheffler's plus.

(10:22):
One sixty McLeroy at second is plus eight.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
To fifty that Is a tiger territory, right now those are.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
The, Shortest, odds yeah for a golfer going into This
Since tiger woods in two thousand and nine was even
money to win the. Tour, championship yeah that's how. Unbelievable
One scotty scheffler has been and AROUND. The nfl not
a lot of. Movement happening and we'll talk About. The
Bengals dalton reisner. Was here he's still Not. A bengal he.

(10:50):
Is gone that's not saying he's not going to, sign
here but he is going to take a couple. MORE
visits i want to talk a little bit More About mitchell.
Tinsley today and this is an interesting day of work
For the bengals because if you look how the schedule
unfold To, your austin they were. Off yesterday thursday is
going to be a. Light day they'll Walk, through friday

(11:12):
And then saturday is preseason game. Number three with that,
being said you have to utilize Much of thursday to
make sure who is playing in that Game on saturday
is ready to go from a play, book standpoint from a,
call standpoint so you're not just putting some sloppy, out
there Which means today is essentially the only day of

(11:34):
meaningful work that you should see some of the starters
having this week before the regular season is. Upon us
that's a, big time big, time opportunity especially coming off
of what we saw Against The. Washington commanders on the
defensive side of, the ball we'll get a look at
the offense again taking another. Step forward What Can mitchell
tinsley do as? An encore but a lot that should

(11:55):
happen at. Today's, practice now outside of, practice here we'll
spend some Time On. Trey hendrickson but a team that
we kind of mentioned a little bit yesterday because they
talked about being open to communicate with thirty one other
teams Is The New, England patriots and According To, jordan
Schultz The New england patriots are open to shopping Their Safety.

(12:18):
Kyle dugger if It was dugger and an early round
Pick For, trey hendrickson would you pull the trigger, Right,
Now austin you would.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Think so the big Thing With kyle dugger, right, now
though is the amount of money he has guaranteed on
the books for. This, season now keep, in mind he
did not have a good season. Last year he, was
bad but he is, still young twenty nine, years old
and maybe is a better fit elsewhere instead of where

(12:50):
that defense. Was at keep in mind he was Also
In new England Where jerry Montgomery And scott peters were,
at previously so maybe there's a bit of a. Connection
there but he has almost ten million dollars in guaranteed
salary for, this season which would mean That the patriots
would have to take on a sizeable chunk of that

(13:10):
for any team based off the way he performed last
year to take him on, this year which could drive
the potential trade, you know back in, you know the
return in any sort of trade back to keep an,
Eye on i'm going to try to figure out how
to talk between now and the end of the Show that.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Works' something to keep an eye on today and. Going
forward if if there is a player that could be
moved and you're a team that has some Interest In,
trey hendrickson that is something. TO watch i also want
to ask the question today about some current holdouts IN,
the nfl and we'll dive deeper, into THIS but I
Saw cam hayward is practicing despite the stalemate going on
With The. Pittsburgh steelers but if you were to put

(13:54):
in the major holdouts, Right, now austin would You, Have, hayward,
parsons McLaurin And. Trey hendrickson would those be the four? Major?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Ones yeah are you asked me to put them?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
In? Order WELL what I what i, would think not
not the order of who the best player is out of,
that four but who is most valuable to their team's success? This,
YEAR like I Think micah parsons is probably the, best
PLAYER but i Don't think dallas is a contender with Or.
Without parsons that's JUST how i.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
View, them yeah and he's, the best probably the best
overall player on that. Entire team but if you look.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
At what this What Does cam hayward mean To? The
steelers you could certainly argue What does terry McLaurin mean to?
That Offense And jaydon daniels and What does trey mean
To The? Cincinnati bengals out of those, four players, which
player if they get a deal done with their, current
team boost their odds the highest to win?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
A championship i Would say.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Terry, McLaurin yeah i think IF if i had to,
rank it it would probably, Be, McLaurin, Hendrickson. Hayward, parsons
yeah which is Crazy, BECAUSE parsons i don't think he
is the. BEST player i don't know that there's a
huge difference between McLaurin.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
And.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Hendrickson yeah there might be a much more sizable Gap
between Hendrickson.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
And.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
HAYWARD yeah i think THERE'S a i think there's just
a an importance on McLaurin with a young year two
Quarterback In.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Jade daniels speaking of, young quarterbacks we just got the
news that there's a quarterback contract extension that has just.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Been, signed oh would you like to guess. The player
if you Were Thinking, tyson bagent you.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Were, Correct Oh tyson bagent has signed a, two year
ten million dollars contract extension With The.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Chicago bears, All.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Right tyson good, for, HIM man i, KNOW yeah i
was a fan of His On. Hard knocks, all right
here's what we need. To do let's get our first
break in and then let's knock out everything that was
From the reds game, last night set the scene for,
tonight's game and then we'll use our number one to

(15:59):
set the For today's bengals practice and get if we,
have them a majority of our phone calls out of
the way because once our, two hits we're Gonna, Talk
bengals we're gonna, have talkbacks and then practice will be in.
Full swing it'll be hard to get calls in later in.
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Speaker 9 (16:23):
Sports Station, Hey, ALEXA hey i pitch strike three.

Speaker 10 (16:29):
Calls got him looking a fastball over the outside corner of.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
The knees.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
About that that was the?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Final out how? About that it's kind of a short.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Highlight there, you know there was a point last night
where the cowboy was talking And Uh luis may came into.
The game did you HEAR that, i, did yes where,
he said if you have a seat belt near you
might want to.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Buckle up let's try a. Better one you ready?

Speaker 7 (16:54):
For this?

Speaker 10 (16:54):
All Right about jansen sets, the pitch, freedol swing SENDS
a i fly ball right, center field. Medium depth The dell,
over Catches made Travigno tags he's gonna score.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The throws in the second And the reds have.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
The lead how?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
About that there.

Speaker 11 (17:12):
We go.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's good that.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Was cool you know That Was.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Jose travino they're gonna have to rely on him more.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Going Forward Hip. Hip jose.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
You mentioned to me during The Break tyler stevenson ten
day injured list Retroactive to august seventeenth due to a.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Thumb, fracture yeah he had been dealing with this since
the about two. WEEKS ago i think During the pirate
series is when it officially initially first heard him and
then it was reaggravated Against the phillies and come to,
Find Out tyler stevenson has a left thumb fracture and as,
you mentioned ten day injured list Retro to. August Seventeenth

(17:51):
so i'm not sure exactly. The timeline i'm sure we'll
get an Update from francona before the. Game tonight but
in a, corresponding Move the reds have selected the contract
Of Catcher. Will banfield COME On FRO, Triple, A, Louisville, Nija.
Nieja will i'm gonna try to get get some information
for You On. Will banfield get.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
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Speaker 3 (18:44):
Banfield info you ready?

Speaker 7 (18:45):
For this let.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Me know lay.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
It On.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Will banfield he's six, feet tall two hundred and, fifteen
pounds twenty five.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Years old Out.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Of georgia he Went to snellville or he Went To
Brookwood high School, In. Snellville Georgia love snellville. All right
he has never appeared in the. Big leagues never appeared
in the, big league so his first appearance will be
his major. League debut so far this season in, the
minors he's hitting two twenty with a two seventy seven

(19:14):
on base percentage.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Showing it and a five EIGHTY.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
One ops he has two, home runs twenty three runs,
batted in and fifty hits in two hundred and twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
At bats, Killing it.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Killing it shout Out To, will banfield who was The.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Show will he was selected In The Competitive BALANCE round
b draft By the marlins in.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Twenty, EIGHTEEN yeah i remember. THAT one i. Like this
you KNOW what i liked? Last night other Than What
hunter green did and other Than What noelve marte was
able to do at? The plate What's that SpongeBob seen
elie De la cruz run like? HE did i don't
remember a time This year i've seen that where, you

(20:00):
know early in, the game he's on the Move And
miguel angehard doubles and he scores from first base on,
the double and then in the fifth on a single to,
Left field ellie's, on first he comes all the way
around and. Scores again that to me was the first
time all year where it, Felt, like man that felt

(20:20):
Like what i've Watched from elie since he's Been a
cincinnati read from a, speed standpoint just the raw athleticism
on display to score in which the way he did
multiple times. Last night it was enough to build up
a four to one lead in. The fifth that lead
was erased by the time the bottom of the eighth,
came around it was four, to four and then as

(20:41):
you heard, right THERE. The tj friel sack fly that
was followed up By A gavin lux double And the
reds held on in the ninth to win it six,
to four and now Seven, games austin seven games over.
Five hundred they even worked around Two Different joe adele
home runs For the angels in that game. Last night

(21:03):
that's his twenty eighth home run of the Year, for
adele tied for tenth at All Of Major. League baseball
they do look to go for the, sweep tonight And as,
Austin Mentioned nick martinez night For the reds at. The
ballpark what do you make Of The nick? Martinez Role

(21:23):
if nickolodola can get back to this, team healthy is
it bac consistently to. The pen is that just a
long relief guy or is he a guy you can
turn to in the seventh.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
OR eighth i think he's a guy like almost first
out of the bullpen type. Of, guy yeah give you
a little bit, of length can maybe get you out of,
an inning can just bridge You To tony Santion Or
amelio pagon or something, like that kind of almost in
the Role That graham ashcraft has been at times. This,
year yeah, BUT yeah i think ideally he's just a

(21:53):
guy that you can put anywhere. You need, you know
if somebody's pitched count come those, you know skyrockets in
the first three something along, those lines it. Can happen,
so yeah that exact role kind of what we saw
in those couple of Weeks before lodolo, got HURT or
i guess those a couple of Games before lodolo.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Got, hurt yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It is it's another late start For the reds nine to,
thirty Eight the Giants and padres get underway at nine
to forty if you're still keeping it On the padres
and the, wild card and at six Forty five Mets
in washington to take On. The nationals that is that's
The glory austin of scoreboard Watching Across Major. League baseball
and it was different, last NIGHT as, i mentioned when

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you play that later game and you See the, mets
win it's about, keeping pace not giving up, more ground
And the reds were able.

Speaker 12 (22:42):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Last night we'll see if they can take the field
tonight And the mets be in a little bit more
trouble and get things even tighter In That National League wild.
Card race is there any other baseball news that we
have failed to, hit on because when we, come back
we'll take some fun calls and we're going to be
hitting heavy On The. Cincinnati bengals an important day Here

(23:03):
at bengals. Training camp anything left From the.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Reds NOT that i can think of Other than. Matt McLean,
oh yeah what's?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Going, on okay let's. Do it let's take.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
A minute who who would.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
You rather have.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Defensively and offensively in? Meaningful Games santiago Espinal or.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
MATT mcclin i cannot BELIEVE that i am saying this
because of who we've known And thought matt. Mcclan WAS
but i don't think it's it's. A conversation i Think It's. Santiago.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
ESPANOL correct i just feel so much more comfortable with him,
right NOW and i know that. He did McLean did
get a base hit late, last night and, he has,
you know drawn a. Few WALKS but i don't think
defensively the drop off is that different if you put
him at second base. AND offensively i Just trust espanol more.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right Now Jeremy ralph fox nineteen tweeted, last Night the
reds have tried to do a lot of different Things
with matt McClain this season to give him time to
figure things out in the majors instead of sending. Him
down none of it. Has, Worked yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
And my response to, that is if you are in
the middle of a, playoff race do you have time
to let him figure? It out the answer to that, is.
No correct so if, it's you are you moving? HIM
down i think right now what would be best for
the baseball team would be to send him down And

(24:33):
Bring sal. Stewart, UP yeah i just THAT'S what i
think would be best for the. BASEBALL team i.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
JUST don't i don't feel like there's any confidence, from
HIM and i surely don't feel like there's confidence from
the team of the fan base and what he's able
to do or not do. Right, Now right, so yeah.
It is it's it's a fair it's a, fair point
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Speaker 7 (27:58):
All right we got a plethora of them, to day
so let's let's get. Through them we got. Bigger legend
Roger Stallback Er.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Roger marris, OH hm i, WOULD argue.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
I know who you.

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GUYS are i know who these. Guys.

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ARE okay i was going to, say today we've got
a lot of old school guys on, this list, AND
yeah i want to Make sure ADDIE's up the speed
and those, those people so.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
WE'RE good i, Would Say, Roger staubach, Oh interesting, america's Team,
the Navy The. Heisman trophy Andy's a. Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Guy yeah, to Me the cincinnati aspect was going to
push me over the top To. Go STALLBACH BUT i
i would Throw another Roger and I'd put federer in
over both.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Of them that's a. Good call that's a. GOOD call
i would agree.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
With, that, YEAH okay i don't work.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
To take anything Away, from maris but, to me it's
It's a cincinnati Guy.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
In, stallbach, okay okay same. Same question Bigger Legend reggie
Jackson Or. Reggie white, OH man i gotta.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Go With, reggie White the Minister.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Of, DEFENSE well i was, gonna Go, Mister October.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Reggie jackson That's, Mister October.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Mister october if you get the nickname, in Baseball. Mister october,
to me that. That's it you're at the top of.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The mountain what's a, better Nickname the Minister of defense
or Mister.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
October man Minister of defense is, Really cool But mister
october there's. Nothing like you can't be Another. Mister october
THAT'S what i.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Was saying because how many he's.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Doing it he's doing it in the, clutch too he's
doing it During pre.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
How Many team Hall of Fames Is reggie? Jackson IN
because I Know reggie white is in at.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Least two, good question, fair question.

Speaker 14 (29:47):
Doesn't change.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
My, mind, YEAH no, i see it's the Same Doing Reggie.
Reggie jackson he's In the a's and In. The yankees.
That's it this might be the best one you've.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Asked.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Altogether wow so because this is closer than, PEOPLE think
i don't think it's as simple as you guys.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Are saying just go Straight To.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
REGGIE jackson, I Mean reggie white Is A College football Hall,
of Famer A Pro football Hall, of Famer And eagles Hall.
OF Famer A packers Hall of famer on the Seventy
fifth anniversary team on the One hundredth. Anniversary team Thirteen Time,
Pro Bowler Super, bowl champion two Time defensive player Of.
THE year, i mean this guy LED the Nfl in

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saxon back to. Back seasons he's an eight time First Team.
ALL pro i Gotta go Reggie. White, MAN man i.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Hear you you're throwing the stats. OUT here i thought
you were gonna. Sway me but he Has Multiple world.
Series titles he?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Has, five yeah he? Has five, oh yeah, right There.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's october that's over.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
And two of Them Are world. Series MVPs so. That's,
fair no this, is, Close though That's all. I'm, saying, yes,
yes yes this might be my best. List, yet okay
and to top, it off this is the.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
Last one we're gonna. Have fun who would you read
There Be ricky Henderson Or.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Ricky fowler, Oh, Man Well micky, henderson's Dead so I'll
take fowler.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
FOR now i like.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
THAT answer i. Like that I'm going Ricky fall I'm
Going ricky faller JUST because i.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Love, GOLF yeah i Would go fouler just because. That
lifestyle he just seems to have a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
More, fun yeah you don't.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Have to he's. Not stressed he's playing golf for. A
living you don't have to be.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Exactly a. PROFESSIONAL golfer i don't think you can. Beat.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It no number, one anyway he put some work into.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
It today thanks so.

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Working hard. Well.

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Speaker 6 (31:49):
Up mike, hey guys thanks for. The time hey wait,
a minute What About? Ricky?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Sanders, OH man i was at the Game Where REGGIE
sanders i think he had three home runs At a.
SYNERGY field i was there when he. Did That reggie
sanders was an underrated good player For. The reds that
was a good.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
OUTFIELDER too i mean he ate up in the league
with Them. Two cats, but, STILL yeah i thought that
was just kind of. A yeah he just popped into.
My head why who?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Would you who would you? Go With reggie Jackson Or? Reggie,
White mike.

Speaker 15 (32:22):
It.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
IS tough i Know why Austin's Taking reggie white because
he did worships football and baseball secondary in. His opinion
but uh, BUT uh i that's that is a. TOUGH
one i Gotta Go. REGGIE jackson i got to go In,
MISTER october i, have. TO yep i mean that's a
pretty big moniker to put on somebody's name, in Baseball?

(32:43):
RIGHT october i heard an interesting Comment On, aaron RODGERS
who i, never, do REALLY but i thought you guys
might get a kick out. Of this he has the
six most starts, all time and he's twenty seventh and fourth.
Quarter comebacks and you know what that? Tells me and

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you can tell it when you. Watch him he's. A
powder when they, get behind, he pouts he kind of.
Gives Up and i've noticed this over the Years With,
aaron rodgers especially when he passed this second or third
year fourts. Or whatever you guys agree, with that that's
kind of a, Stunny statistic and it's six, month starts
twenty seventh.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Coming back when you think about it and you think
of the quarterbacks that that he has played with or
in the same TIMEFRAME of i don't see him as
a guy that you fear as much as as most.
Of man if he gets the ball back with under two,
minutes left they're gonna go down. And score you felt
that way with Every Time tom brady. Did it you
can make That.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Can you didn't feel that Way With?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Aaron, RODGERS no i don't.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Think so oh, MY gosh i disagree.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
WITH you i disagree with One thousand rogers in his
prime was one of the most talented quarterbacks that's ever,
played football like up there in the.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
TOP ten i think of this just. Raw talent the stats.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Don't lie he's twenty seventh and fourth quarter, comeback wins well.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
He was he was winning. A lot they didn't need to.
Come back That's what i'm talking About.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
With aaron where is he? At Right aaron rodgers was
as talented as they, did initially but when they would
lose start, LOSING games i, noticed IT and i Didn't
need he really didn't mean to. NOTICE it i, just
thought look at this guy's kind, of pouting and he's
kind of talking on the side of his mouth and
people and mumbling to himself and, head down you KNOW what,
I mean Not Like brett Barb Or bill burrow or,

(34:36):
somebody's well we're gonna win this game no.

Speaker 16 (34:38):
Matter What.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Or, brady yeah he's Work with. Rogers too because he's
played for. SO long i think HE'S got i think
he's got twenty three fourth, quarter comebacks he's got thirty
four game, winning drives but only one postseason fourth quarter
comeback throughout. His, career.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah and he, hadn't really that's that's not too that's not.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Too impressive so you said.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
He's got the sixth the sixth most, Most starts is
that what?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
You, said, yeah yeah six most starts IN the. NFL
history i.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Just, saw too because he's he also has the six
most WINS in. Nfl history but.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Let's say Let's say austin, For you let's say You
Take Manning brady rogers one quarter drive to win. The
game are you taking Him above Manning? OR brady i
would take Him? Above, peyton? Yes, really, YEAH wow i
Would Say brady rogers And.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Then, PEYTON okay i.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Would.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Too Yeah like, austin said we're Talking in.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Aaron's, prime, YEAH yeah i mean not.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Right, now yeah not. Right Now and.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Brady's prime never. Did stop that was Deal. With brady
brian just went till. They quit here's a.

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Fun fact here's a, Good, One, Mike, THIS mike i
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For this?

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Hit?

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Me bro who who is the all time leader quarterback
in career? Win percentage he's got an eight fourteen win
percentage eighty one percent of the time he won games.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
He started is it a guy That's that's is it
a guy that's been prominent since. Nineteen seventy let's, say.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
No it's before, nineteen seventy it's.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Before Nights it's France Arkinon No.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Auto graham mm, Oh.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Yeah auto graham For The. Cleveland, browns yes my dad's.
Favorite quarterbacks we had to Rave About.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Auto Graham auto graham played.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
College ball where do you play?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
College Ball auto graham played college Football? At northwestern believe it?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Or, Not man oh he.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Was smart is there a? Smart?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Guy yeah, All.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Right, mike wow that's A good, Thank, You mike you
got me. Appreciate, it yeah one more time To The
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Speaker 7 (36:57):
What's?

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Speaker 17 (37:00):
Hey dan Said picking carle's got a good. QUESTION here
i was. Thinking about we just Watched the bengals get
bullied like we've never seen before from, a Player And.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
Joe burrow getting his. Guys signed but.

Speaker 17 (37:14):
Looking at this team is defense.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
In particular he'll we make.

Speaker 17 (37:20):
A mistake should we have Signed? T higgins should we
Not Giving trey hatterson us some money and win to
sign a couple more guts for.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
The Defense.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Greg that's a. Good question thank you for. The call,
You Know that's It's, interesting austin because if The the
higgins deal just strap this team so bad for, THE
future i would maybe follow that narrative a. Little bit
but this team still has like thirty million dollars. To,
spend correct they could HAVE Signed t trey and still

(37:49):
made the. Defense. Better right it feels like they thought
the personnel was better and just by bringing In, ol
golden the were gonna be they were gonna.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Be better t higgins base salary this year's thirteen point eight.
Million dollars his base salary next year is ten point nine. Million,
dollars yep there's no it's not going to. Crush you
and there's no guarantee that even if they had not
signed him to, that extension that they would have gone
out and spent the money to fix. The defense and
the we've been trying to say from the very beginning

(38:18):
is they blame last year in the last couple of
years On. Lou anarumo that's why they didn't really run
it back with anybody different. This year hope is not.
A strategy we've said that. Many TIMES but i don't
know that Even if higgins, isn't here that they go
out and incredibly fix. THE defense I just i have

(38:40):
no believe like this whole offseason has it's.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Just, puzzling yeah let's let's wrap. Our one when we
come back with the Comments From zach taylor on why
he's not worried about, THE defense i want to, discuss
that and then we'll switch to some offensive side of
the ball topics before we get the talkbacks an hour
number two and the meat of, practice today they'll be
on the. Practice field they'll get out here about, one
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(39:07):
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i'm here till. Three mo will take over live here
from three. To six bengals practice will get under way
a little bit after one thirty. THIS afternoon i would
assume they are out here getting the field. Set up,
RIGHT now i can report that we are on the
field or right by, the field closest to where the
work is going to be getting, done today based on

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where the camera's overhead are set up to watch. Today's
practice so very eager to get to a lot of
practice storylines when we get back to start our. Number
two we got one more time to the Race and claire,
Roofing hotline john, as calling? What's?

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Up?

Speaker 7 (40:04):
John good, Afternoon fellows?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Hawaii good how are?

Speaker 7 (40:08):
You man we're hanging. IN there i didn't meet the,
call today but the discussion is, too GOOD and i
have to be the Expert On. Kyle dugger i'll get
to him in, a second but you, see that let's
Go With reggie White Over. Reggie Jackson, reggie white Along With,
lawrence taylor maybe the greatest defensive. Player ever and Everyone
Says reggie jackson Won Five. World, series, technically yes but
he didn't play in the Seventy Two world series Against

(40:30):
The red head injuries thumb In The American League championship series,
before that so it's Really Four. World series rogers sawback
Clear Over roger morrison to appreciate How Great roger. Sawback
Was joe bow's Got The roger sawback in him in
terms of toughness. And leadership so that's a. Good THING
but i just want to kind of prett you Guys On.
Kyle dunder, great kid walks his, butt off, very coachable

(40:53):
but he's, Twenty nine he's had a lot, of injuries.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
And he was never.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Really fast he was never a real pure. Free safety
he's much that are playing close to the line of.
Script issues isn't. Box SAFETY and i will, say this
if he Comes, to cincinnati he may lead the league.
In tackles knowing how that front seven he can't, stuck
them Right, YOU yeah I mean i don't know if
it's a good or a. BAD thing i mean he
will he will lay. YOU out i guarantee You What

(41:17):
jayden daniels did the. Other night he would have got
Hit By kyle guger because one other guy in the
Defense that i'd be Intrigued With new england because the,
Draft sticks you're going to.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Win.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
It Now Key, on white who's a very Similar To
samars stewart as far as like six five to eighty.
Physical freak the only PROBLEM is i doubt he would
want to Go to Cincinnati With jerry montgomery's coach because
he coached them last year and that. Did Work so
i'd be better Off with guger and someone else because
their defense is. Pretty good they can't help you along

(41:48):
the offensive line because their offensive line is as bad As.
The Sinnati's but dougle would be a, nice fit, but
again he's not going to solve the free safety issues you.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Guys, have yeah, Makes, Sense john thank you so much.
For listening thank you for. The call we appreciate.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
That anytime so.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
HERE'S how i want to. Spin this start now at
Number two austin After The bengals monday night, Law win but,
in reality it felt different on the defensive side of.
The Ball zach taylor after the game talked about how
he was comfortable with the defense based on what he's
seen in practices because of all the days he's given
the offense a. Hard time, he, said quote. IT'S preseason

(42:26):
i feel really excited about where our defense. Is at
we're not pushing the envelope with what we're asking them.
TO do i KNOW what i see every day in
Practice and i'm excited about, the direction which goes against
why it's important to get preseason reps in the. First,
place correct it makes, no sense, it counts it counters

(42:47):
everything we've Heard From zach taylor talking about this training
camp and getting off to a.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Faster, START yeah i don't.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Get it, and also you have to know that your
offensive line, is terrible and if that could skewing the
results you're seeing, In practice like if the defense all
of a sudden looks really really good in practice but
then disappears, in games what does that say about?

Speaker 15 (43:11):
Your?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Offense yeah, you know you know old days. In football
you know how you would respond to what happened in
the first two. Preseason games you would do. Inside run
you would line up and you would go offensive line versus,
defensive line and you would have linebackers in a, running
game and you would tackle because it forces you to

(43:35):
make your, run fits it forces you to get to
your gap when. You're stunting you can't replicate that in
a practice IN the, nfl now because you don't go
live and you're not going.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
All out.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So how can You incorporate Because If zach, taylor said
everything's been kind of base we're not. Showing much shouldn't
that mean often that there's not breakdowns with gaps right
and responsibilit if, it's easy if it's if it's, dumb
down shouldn't you know where you're supposed to be at
and what your. Role is this team doesn't. Have That
and i'm sorry because it's. Old school but unless you

(44:12):
go like an inside run and, you, say hey we're,
going live and it's it's a, controlled environment but we're
going live because our linebackers need to understand how to
fit the right run. Hole properly our defensive linemen need
to see the importance of getting to their gap and
and and operating in. Their stunt until you, do that
and or unless you, do that how can you expect
the defense to get better in a? Game setting?

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Right there there have been way too many mental mistakes
for a defense that has been so. Vanilla vanilla those
two things again don't, add up talking out of both
sides of your mouth and.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
On the only opportunity you get is preseason live, game
mode when you can fill, those voids fill, those holes and.
Make tackles and they have failed at that miserably in. Two,
Opportunities yep we'll talk more, about defense will switch gears to,
the offense Talk About, dalton reisner Talking About. Dylan fairchild
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(46:31):
it relates to the defense at the end of the,
HOUR there i don't know what you could accomplish in
a practice to improve on what we've seen the deficiencies
in games For the bengal defense outside of lining up
and again running an inside run drill where you have
lineman quarterback to hand of the, running back linebackers to

(46:54):
phill and you in a, confined space actually. Make tackles
unless you're, doing that you're not ever getting the same
look that you would over the course of. A game
i don't think it's anything you can replicate, at practice

(47:16):
and then when they get to, the games they've been
getting dominated in, all aspects especially in the. RUNNING game
i don't know how. THAT'S fixed, i also as we,
talked about didn't feel like you got Honesty From zach
taylor when he's talking kind of out of both sides of,
you know he's seen enough, at practice he's good with
where the. Defense is but they're running a lot of,

(47:36):
base stuff they're not, showing stuff and yet they're having
these mental breakdowns on where they need to be on
every play that that necessarily doesn't. Add up and it raises,
the question, you know does this help the Leverage Of?
Trey hendrickson and maybe, it does maybe. It Doesn't, but
austin have you seen enough Of the bengals in two

(47:56):
games to think that Just Having trey hendrickson would be
a simple fix for. This Defense trey hendrickson's not great
against the run. Right now this team didn't register a
sack in the Game, against Washington and washington didn't drop
back a ton because of the success on. The Ground
but i'm at a POINT now i don't know How
Much trey hendrickson helps where the deficiencies we've seen in this.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Defense, ARE yeah i would agree with you, On that
IT'S just i don't think that it would change enough
to make me feel better about the defense as.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
A whole the big thing that comes to mind is.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Or offenses would at least have to Prepare For trey
hendrickson and there would be certain parts of the game
plan built around we are not going To Let trey hendrickson,
beat us and maybe that creates more opportunities for other
guys on. The defense but, even then who has shown
at this point that they can consistently win a one
on one or that they can be, gap sound or

(48:54):
that they know, their assignment or that they can be
the team or the player that makes. The Play shamar
stewart maybe could. Be THAT and i think the Idea
of Stuart and henderson being together and both being disruptive
could have the. Biggest IMPACT but i don't know that
anybody Looks at stuart and says he's all the way,
there yet and maybe it's unfair to expect him to

(49:15):
be as. A rookie, so, OVERALL no i don't know
that it changes all, that much?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Isn't?

Speaker 5 (49:21):
It innese the other, thing too like thinking about the
defensive line and like the rest of, THE group I.
Think tj slayton has actually played pretty well both in
camp and in, the games and yet you can't even
tell he's there because the other guys are not doing.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Their, job yep you, know what what WILL The bj
hill role? Be defined as worse. HIS health i don't
think they've gotten Enough. For osai they've gotten next to
Nothing From. MILES murphy i still go BACK and i
do think the linebackers looked Bad On. MONDAY night i
Think The matrius knight looked a little bit overwhelmed for
one of the FIRST times I Thought logan wilson wasn't

(49:58):
on the same page with The. Me knight there's questions
at LINEBACKER that i think you've got to find a
way to. GET answered i don't. Know it, to me
it boggles. My, mind austin as much as we talked
about him in the offseason and the role that here
we Are in, august TWENTIETH and i would say that
the most important defender and the best defender right Now Is.
SHAMAR stewart i don't know if that's a Compliment, to

(50:21):
shamar and it's for what he's gotten done since he's,
been HERE but i think it's also kind of where
this defense as a whole. Is at so if it's
not going to be, on defense then you better make
sure it's there. On offense and as much as we
do criticize what the offensive offensive line, IS doing i

(50:44):
do want to point Out A dylan fairchild Statistic here
austin According To Pro, Football focus bengals rookie old rookie
offensive Limb And dylan fairchild eighty seven POINT seven, Pff,
grade yeah thirty pass, blocking snaps one, pressure allowed and
an eighty five point four run. Block Grade dylan fairchild

(51:06):
has been awesome. This far, this this this far in
the training camp and the opportunities he's, been given and
who he's played against and what he's been. TASKED with
I Think dylan fairchild has been a home run.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
SO far. I, agree now?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
What is?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I'm sorry what's going? On behind.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
So much construction on the street corner? Right out it's
it's so annoying like they are digging into the sidewalks
right outside.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
This game, ALL right I just i just make sure.
EVERYTHING'S okay i could. Hear it i'm sure our. LISTENERS
could i.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Just want to make sure for me to even talk
and concentrate On what i'm saying with what.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
That is it's hard enough on a, normal day let Alone,
with yeah this is.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
This is the sights and sounds Of live bengals training
camp practice has even.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
This is infrastructure.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
At.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Work man i'm trying to get this done because they
don't want that sound happening while they're, practicing.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That or, you know just try to get it done
before the Game. On, saturday yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
That, too yeah, But Offense dalton, reisner visited he didn't
leave with. A deal often the conversation is that he's
going to visit a couple. Other teams is it a
miss that he was here and left without getting a? Deal, DONE.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Yes i, Think So but i'm not panicking because we
saw the same thing happen with. No, offan sure and
maybe it's a. NEGOTIATION tactic i. DON'T know i saw
some people Saying that reisner wants, to start and now
all of a sudden there's a bunch of other people

(52:46):
that are he's going to be having. VISITS with i,
wonder why all of a sudden every team is interested, in,
him yeah or if that's just part of the negotiation tactic,
AS well i, don't know or if.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It's this point in camp and teams are starting to
age what they have or don't have. Up front he's
going to Visit. In seattle there's interest that he's going
to be Visiting The pittsburgh steelers, As well so there's
a lot to take in when it Comes. To riisner but,
YOU know i, WAS this, i mean this noise. IS
incredible i was fully on board Yesterday that riisner was

(53:18):
gonna come and he wasn't gonna. Leave town he was
going to Be A cincinnati bengal and he was going
to sign on the. Dotted line. M hm the fact
that he's not leaves me a little bit apprehensive about
where things can go. Going forward you don't want another
team to be able to scoop. Him, up no if You're,
the bengals are you pitching to him that he's going
to have to compete or are, you, saying hey you're

(53:38):
going to be.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
OUR guy i Would imagine i'm guessing That the bengals
are telling him he would be competing for, that job
and maybe not Necessarily With, lucas patrick but with more
than One, Guy Patrick cody ford.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
And Others Jalen Rivers.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
JALEN rivers i Think the bengals like the idea of. A.
COMPETITION yeah i think the other part is if he,
signs today if he, signs tomorrow he's not going to Play, on,
Saturday right and you don't really have a chance to
see him as compared to those. Other, Guys yeah so because,

(54:15):
OF that i don't know that him coming in and
starting three weeks from Now in cleveland is really. A.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
POSSIBILITY yeah i think it comes down to give you
a better chance to win M in. Game one that's
that to me is what it's. All about and that
Is What scott peters and that is What the bengals

(54:42):
offensive staff as a whole would have to. Figure out
can this guy help us? Right away can? He start
is it better than what we have? Statistically numbers, grading
wise he already. Is better last year he was better
than what they have currently on the. Offensive line what
that would mean go, AND forward i think is still
left to to be kind of. Sifted. THROUGH now i

(55:05):
do have, Another, proposition AUSTIN and i might be crazy for,
this one and it might not even warn anything, In
return but has the Stock Of mitchell tinsley ever, been
higher no than what he was able To do? Monday
night um uh, five catches. Two Touchdowns joe burrows as
if there's an endorsement in the game of football that you.

(55:27):
Want More joe burrow came out and talked about how
he ideally has made a roster spot the plays. He's
made he's been incredible all camp and Everything that i've
seen has justified what he. Has Said dan horde has
videos Out Of mitchell tinsley throughout. Training camp my, question
is even if he does make The, roster austin What
Is mitchell Tinsley's role week One?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Against, Cleveland uh He's probably he's. Probably, Inactive correct he's.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Not above Chase. And higgins he's Not, Above yoshi he's
Not Above. Charlie jones he's probably Not Above jermaine burton if, he's.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Healthy could be a gunner on. Special TEAMS but i.
DON'T know i haven't seen any of the.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Special teams is there a scenario where you Look At
mitchell tinsley and where his stock is at right now
and the full body of work of campy is? Put
together is there any way you Can Move mitchell tinsley
and get anything of value that can help your defense?
In return and if that answer, is yes are you?

(56:25):
DOING it.

Speaker 7 (56:30):
I.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
DON'T know i don't know that you can get anything, of, That, right.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Like is there? A yeah, I don't. I don't i
don't want to move them for a. Future.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Pick right but if there's probably all you, would, Get
right but.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
If there is a player that a team in need
of playmakers or a team in need of wide receiver would, say,
yeah well because at this point of, the year teams
will give up on more than what they would in
the offseason because everyone feels like they're a contender and
they're maybe just has this. Glaring need if wide receiver
is a, glaring need wide, receiver two wide, receiver three something.

(57:05):
Like that you see the body of Work That mitchell timsley's,
put together and maybe he goes Out on saturday and
has another. Phenomenal game is there a way you could
take the value of that and find a way to help.
YOUR defense i don't know that, there is because at
this point that's the issue we we just. Talked about
What Would trey hendrickson mean to? The defense how much

(57:27):
better would they be if it's not that you're obviously
scouring down the cutdown day conversation and who teams are moving.
On from but outside, of that is there anyone on
this roster with a deep offensive skill group that you
can move on from that would net you anything in
return that you think could help you be a.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
BETTER defense i think, the ideal, you know move to
Make Is billy price For. BJ hill, i mean that's
maybe the best trade in the history Of the. Bengals
franchise sure that happened, around time probably a little bit
earlier in training camp a few. Years ago is there
something like that where a team is so desperate for
a player that they'll move on with move on from

(58:11):
somebody where they?

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Have?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Depth right?

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Whether that but, you know as, we've heard offensive line
is a problem for everybody IN, The nfl so it's
not like you're gonna get a player there. Defensive line
maybe there's some more guys that you could. POTENTIALLY get
i do Think the bengals are happy with how some
of the interior players. Have PLAYED but i don't know
that there's an edge rusher that's gonna. Change, anything yeah

(58:36):
but maybe if, nothing else it gives. YOU depth i guess.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
That's, Possible yeah i'm just at, this point you're just
trying to figure out is there any other avenues you
could exhaust that improves this defense from what it is?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
RIGHT now I really i really don't. Think, so.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Sobering let's take. A break SEE how i waited until
that noise stop to take. The, break sure not sure
what's going. ON outside i might check this out over
the course of the break and just see if they
could keep that down a little bit at least while
we have, our talkbacks which are coming up next to
put a picture of where things. Are at we Were
told austin practice would start at.

Speaker 18 (59:13):
One.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Thirty today there is not one member Of, the bengals their,
coaching staff or any equipment managers or anyone setting up
the field right now out here at the. Practice FIELD
so i think we've got a, Little time so we'll
keep talkbacks as normal when we, get back and then
we'll dive into everything that's going on Here at bengals.
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Speaker 21 (01:00:26):
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Speaker 17 (01:00:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
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hundred For The Cincinnati red LEGS and uh over their
last ten now seven. And three so getting things going
the right way here as the stretch. Run continue this

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Speaker 22 (01:01:29):
This Edition Of zach Taylor's Coach speak translation is brought
to You by Tom And. Cold spring right after the
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translation to that means he felt good that they were
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(01:01:51):
Terrible tackles that's what he.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Really met.

Speaker 22 (01:01:55):
He's, not excited he's scared.

Speaker 12 (01:01:56):
To, Death.

Speaker 23 (01:01:58):
Okay, happy. Hompday, everybody hey did y'all Know What hunter
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A contract WHY am i? NOT surprise i?

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
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Know why never let him get out of here.

Speaker 23 (01:02:11):
With that one guy's got a great pff Past block
gray and With the joe burrownead somebody like an block.
For him but We're talking bengals. Front office it nothing
really surprises. Us, Anymore there take care and who?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
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Speaker 17 (01:02:25):
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Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
Who hello this Is Former President ronald Riggan. And will
in order to Fix, THE bengals i am Reviving My
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the First thing i'll do is secure the Services Of
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be Sending Young al goldenwalker to Meet With Obi wan

(01:02:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
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Speaker 24 (01:02:58):
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Chad Brindle, chad brindle when you're sitting in your ford
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Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
The lord just.

Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
Win series way, To, Go reds way to keep.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
It up he is really good to Hear ed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Easy, yesterday yeah it's been a long, time Coming.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Ed easy we'd like to hear more.

Speaker 12 (01:03:27):
Of you. Just.

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cruz look like.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
A Gazelle.

Speaker 25 (01:03:43):
Jordan battle all the GOOD things i try to say
about him over.

Speaker 26 (01:03:47):
The years.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
I'm done.

Speaker 25 (01:03:51):
Astros havn't scored in three. Straight games that hasn't happened in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Forty, Years yeah stro's come come back down to earth a.

Speaker 14 (01:03:59):
Little bit.

Speaker 24 (01:04:01):
This is my Impression of tony trying to broadcast from. Training, camp,
so Yeah, the bengals they really need.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
To Sign This dalton.

Speaker 24 (01:04:10):
Riiser guy we're really gonna be help in the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Offensive line, Oh shit it's like the whole sidewalk outside
OF where i walk in is gone, Right now they're just.
Eliminating everything people on the bridge are. Getting arrested there
was cops up. There earlier it's what a day.

Speaker 27 (01:04:28):
It's, Been, Hey, Austin Hey tony Brandon from. Minneapolis here
glad it's a nice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Day.

Speaker 27 (01:04:34):
Outside hey just to comment On, THE reds i think
that they're looking a. Lot better i'm glad they've won
three in, a row but just, being optimistic they have
a tough schedule, coming UP and i just hope they
can keep things going and not getting to a, losing
streak because if, they do then the season will.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Be over as far As the bengals.

Speaker 7 (01:04:52):
Are concerned in.

Speaker 27 (01:04:53):
My mind the defense doesn't look any better than. Last
year we've seen it With the commanders the.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Other night, SO.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I, agree yeah there's a lot to. Agree with
there's ALSO something i need to agree with. RIGHT here, I,
know Austin but i've got to say there was a
little bit OF caution i was using Today because, i'm
thinking HOW am i gonna Eat when i'm? Down here
WHAT am i? Gonna do because this day was kind
of added IN and i, didn't, know like there's does
Our Guy jim morning At The? Holy grail does he?
Remember us does he think, about us and he thinks

(01:05:22):
about us all. The time. He did he just brought some.
FOOD by i changed things, Up. TODAY austin i got
chicken tenders and fries to see how those are From
The holy what have? You been fantastic chicken tenders?

Speaker 14 (01:05:34):
And?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Fries no so. You, Didn't yeah i've literally got it.
Every day but shout Out to jim and the fine
folks At The holy grail for for hooking it up.
Again today.

Speaker 28 (01:05:44):
It's, unbelievable, hey Fellas, it's adam and my question for
you today is this, coming season who has the, Hotter
Seat west Miller Or Scott sadderfield and how hot are?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Those seats ranging from cold to.

Speaker 28 (01:06:01):
Blazing hot i'm going blazing hot for both, Of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
THEM yeah, i Honestly and i'm not just saying this to.
BE political i think they're both equally. AS hot I
think I Think wes miller needs to MAKE the ncaa
TOURNAMENT and I Think scott's sadderfield at minimum needs to win.
Six games, if not they're both on the. HOT seat,
i would in, MY opinion I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Have scott sadderfield at. PRETTY warm I Have wes miller at.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Blazing hot now does does anything that's Happened With. Gisel
james does That give wes? More, freedom no it makes
it a little, bit more. It, does yeah makes. It
hotter that's your. CONTROL program i think BOTH are i,
think DAMN because I Know wes miller likes to. SAY
damn i think both seats are. Incredibly hot if basketball
doesn't make the tournament and if football doesn't make, at

(01:06:46):
MINIMUM and i think even a six and six years disappointing,
FOR football i would want to get to seven. Or eight,
but yes the seats are.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Extremely hot how what's the difference? In Temperature if cincinnati
gets Smoked? Against, nebraska yeah, oh my if it's, one
thing if they lose by seven to, ten points if
they lose by, multiple touchdowns if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
They get blown Out, NEXT thursday i think it's immediately
Uncomfortable For. Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
SODERFIELD yeah i agree.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
With that. Immediately uncomfortable all let's talk about.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
The cap let's not forget the reports were that they
left ten million dollars on the table through tease contracts somehow.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Or, another.

Speaker 16 (01:07:25):
Okay okay If the brown Family and castellini family just the,
SAME group, i mean they don't make changes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Or listen to the.

Speaker 16 (01:07:35):
Fan base they, are cheap and they rely on one
coach to make a pivotal change in.

Speaker 29 (01:07:45):
THEIR organization.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
I think the best way to describe those two groups
is that they have a very specific way of doing business.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Right that they do not like to deviate.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
From It the barrels have deviated more in, recent, years
yep Than the, castelinis have and you could probably see
the difference because both, those organizations in, my mind are
on very.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Different TRACKS but i also feel Like the bengals organization
gets will get a little bit more pressure if they
underachieved this year because the stakes and the bar has
been raised for.

Speaker 17 (01:08:22):
This.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Organization, yeah absolutely because yeah exactly after.

Speaker 30 (01:08:26):
Watching a monday night Game, against washington do you guys
Still feel cincinnati could win eleven twelve games or does
this change? Your, mind like wait, a Minute As lee,
porso says not, so fast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
MY friend i believe any Team With joe burrow can
go out and win any game that they're a. Part
of but if you're asking who's going to win more
or what is, THE likelihood i think. THEY'RE around i
still think they're ten or. Eleven wins we.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Said this LAST week i had them at ten being.
THEIR max i Think With trey henderson their sealing as.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
Ten wins okay It man jean Checking in and for
all you cry babies, out there what actually happens is
the lachrymal planed fills up with tears and they fall
down on. Your, face now due to what Happened on,
monday night all you cry babies out there were actually

(01:09:19):
affected by emotional stimuli and that produces. The, tears now
one way to fix that is the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Man, up okay, Thanks, You.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Bob, BOB so i don't think He.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
TRADE tinsley I think jama burs your.

Speaker 15 (01:09:35):
Trade bake he has.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
More potential we.

Speaker 22 (01:09:38):
Know he's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Be headcase might as well get rid of you make him.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
A burden for some.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
Other team the problem is. It's conversation the Problem Is
mitchell tinsley right now probably has more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Trade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Value absolutely what do you Know? About burton there's Nothing
about burton you. Would, Know correct and there's a. Shady
past thirty one other teams passed. On him why do
they want to? Now correct there's.

Speaker 31 (01:10:01):
No, difference, Hey Guys steve montgomery just Pimping For tyson
anderson to get a shot at starting.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
FREE safety i know people will say that was a
duck of.

Speaker 31 (01:10:12):
A pass and it was a bad choice by, A
quarterback but if you watch, the play he was in
the center.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Of, the field, and yeah he made it.

Speaker 31 (01:10:19):
Quarterback's eyes he bolted to the side and he got,
there easily had a little toe drag swag on. The
side ye got his feet and bounds and made.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
THE pick i thought it was a. Good play if
you're looking from a quarterback point, of view that that's
safety in the middle of, the field you think you
can make. THAT throw i thought he made a really
good play on, the BALL and i thought he hit
his coverage. Very Well.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
MISTER toledo i think it's a big week, for HIM For,
pj Jules For. Dejon anthony they ever get, Out here
they're still not even out.

Speaker 15 (01:10:46):
Here.

Speaker 32 (01:10:46):
Yet huh Still flexing repp in, My city sonny hot AND's.

Speaker 29 (01:10:49):
On it What?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Up tony what, up?

Speaker 32 (01:10:51):
Body yo i'm sipping the red kool a. Once again
The Key brian hayes deal was A Steal, Banks. Pittsburgh
yo real top a seven to two roll tip record
WAS what i was hoping FOR so i might get
my wish Sweep, the angels and you sweep The, d
backs and we'll we'll worry About The la series when
we get through.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
THAT time i will be in The house sunday When
the reds come. To town me and the wife were
flexing our.

Speaker 32 (01:11:11):
City pride you, Feel, me bengals get dalking back to
protect nine and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Pay trade, Thank. You ronnie there, you.

Speaker 33 (01:11:17):
Go guys i'll tell you What Those red legs are
showing me something out there In the City. Of angels
thanks to some falling angels in. The Outfield, on Monday
the reds tripled three times for the first time in.
Six years and last night we must have had a
guardian angel out there in the ninth fighting Off the
Angel of death because we were circling the drain like,
a halo like. A win now we're in a pretty,

(01:11:40):
good position maybe one that's good enough to make an
angel sweep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
One fellas that's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Well done.

Speaker 18 (01:11:47):
That's beautiful as Far As mitchell, tinsley goes you might
as well just hold on to him and keep him
as a. Sixth receiver you're not gonna get anything for
him just because he made a few great catches in a.
Preseason game going against, you know aren't even gonna make
the Roster And joe Homer Daniman, jesel pete what was?
That YESTERDAY if i want to hear opinions like that

(01:12:09):
About the reds And, THE bengals i will find the
nearest ten year old kid Wearing a red's Hat and
bengals jersey in my neighborhood and ask him what.

Speaker 12 (01:12:16):
He.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Thinks, wow Okay, hey tony This is Bob.

Speaker 31 (01:12:21):
The builder i'm really sorry about all the noise we've
been calling during a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Broadcast today but.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
When you get, some time come on over and we'll
let you run the jackammer for a little Bit and
i'll even give you a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Hard hat can we?

Speaker 12 (01:12:32):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
It yes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
We can hope to see.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
Us soon.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Bye bye it's pretty good after. The construction have you
ever operated? Heavy, machinery no you could give The nine. Bearcats,
offense well that was about as heavy as it. Can get,
Our Guy Paul, danner junior just gave us a. SHOUT
out I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Paul post you must have been listening to how great
it was coming across the radio with.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
That jackhammer just shout out and posted, the video posted.
A picture it is there's an eight foot deep trench
that they have in the middle of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
The road i'm telling.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
You one time for.

Speaker 32 (01:13:12):
Double up gotta get a little LOVE To fc cincinnati
for repping the city out Here In major lee soccer
back on top Of. The east but don't get no
respect in the, power rankings which they. Don't understand it
is what. It Is, pat newingan you're doing a great
Job if vander need TO. Be mvp, real talk And
Uh Man Jisel James man Jessel for shizzle has lost.
His rizzle real talk.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
THE dude i hope he gets.

Speaker 32 (01:13:33):
SOME help i Think the bearcuts can be found without,
him anyway. Real talk i'm Loving what i'm Seeing from
west already from.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
His group that group.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
LOOKS talented i think there's a lot to like about The,
freshman tillery who's not talked about as Much As. Seanna
bives but anytime you lose your leading scorer from the,
year before that's a lot to. Make up.

Speaker 15 (01:13:54):
Did you know that if You Match bruce willis cigarette
for cigarette While Watching The Last, boy scout you end
up Sounding Like George.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
TONY austin I Love, Jim harbor he's a.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
Good man.

Speaker 34 (01:14:10):
I'm at a POINT where i WONDER why i need
to Listen To zach taylor if he's just gonna try and.
Gaslight us And wise man, ONCE said i see BETTER than.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
I hear, oh, Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Wow oh SOMETIMES sometimes I. Miss marvin we.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Have our our first participant on the practice.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
For you By.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
All golden let's, go, well good. Lad good he's measuring,
This Thing.

Speaker 11 (01:14:41):
Tony, austin ryan it was awesome To see hunter doing
some hunt Out, in anaheim going down twelve of. Them
angels marte keeps getting hotter, and hotter and you gotta
you Gotta substitute Espinall for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Matt McClean you have no choice, right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Keep winning who would, Have thought but we're at the
moment Of the red season where we're Bagging For santiago
espanola to Play over. Matt McLean so long.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
A wild would be called a big one sixty two
in a wild.

Speaker 29 (01:15:10):
Card, Race hey i'm just listening to the show right?
During talkbacks how many how many dime dogs did?

Speaker 15 (01:15:17):
You?

Speaker 29 (01:15:18):
Eat, audie anyway are set up pictures For? The reds
why why are they walking like the? FIRST battery i.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Don't know can't they?

Speaker 14 (01:15:31):
Throw?

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Strikes no they can't they throw.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
They?

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
Throw strikes why can't they? Throw strikes This is i've
been pounding this drum, For. YEARS jim I wish i knew.
The answer there's no way to try to look. It
up i've tried to look. IT up i wish we
could find out who what team leads the league in
the first batter that in a pitcher faces when they

(01:16:00):
enter a game. Being Walked the reds over the last
five six years have got to run away in. That
category and he finished up five DOGS five i had five,
of them last five dogs a.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Diamond dog it was, Fantastic.

Speaker 15 (01:16:17):
Too Tony And austin kin from the, NEXT year i
think we're living in bizarre. Old world usually this time,
of year people are down On the reds and excited About.
The bengals now, this year people are excited About the
reds and kind of down On.

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
The bengals what are?

Speaker 14 (01:16:39):
WE doing i.

Speaker 15 (01:16:40):
Like it i'm up for being up on, Both teams
So go Rids.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
AND whude i don't think it's down On. THE bengals
i think it's just a. Little apprehensive based on what
you've seen through two, PRESEASON windows.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
I would say it's accurate TO say i am currently
down On, THE bengals i would say THAT is i
know everybody, gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Say nigga, to begin just try to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Be positive, uh Yeah if, i'm positive that should fix, the, Defense,
right yes well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
You're you're usually positive About. Everything bengals so to hear
you say you're a little worried, or now that's. Not
true that is. NOT true i can't believe you said
That about.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
Zach exactly this is the thing, about, Me man everybody
only hears what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
TO hear i am a.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Straight shooter i am a genuine Guid and i'm not
afraid to SAY what. I think and if that means
it criticizes, My Guy, Zach taylor i'm gonna.

Speaker 12 (01:17:25):
Do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
It yep That's what, phil APPRECIATES and I think Phil.

Speaker 14 (01:17:29):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Zach yep. We're done, All right let's get more people. Drive,
me listen here's a gas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Lighting meat that was an enjoyable set.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Of talkbacks but it might be The worst i've ever not,
not worst but it's The hardest i've ever sat Through
because i've had these chicken tenders sitting in front of
me for like. Ten Minutes so i'm gonna see how
many of THESE that i can house over the course
of the next few minutes, on break and then we'll
come back and we'll finish up uh a little bit
of our number two and get into more On the
bengals NEXT on espn Fifteen Thirty Cincinnati. Sports station, you

(01:18:04):
know it's almost like now it's a big game To.
Everybody austin it's it's one thing to have a jackhammer
ripping up. A sidewalk now there's trucks that are beeping.
Their horns it's, a big big game down here. For
everyone apparently. That's good it's since he, three sixty it's our.
Number two we'll do a brief segment here. It is
we Were told austin practice starts at. One thirty today

(01:18:26):
it's one, forty five and the only person still on
the Field Is. Al golden not sure what.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
That means maybe zach'son there are just chewing. Him out
oh you think he Was. Like al maybe he's a
room delivering some sort of. A speech leave, the room.
EVERYBODY out i gotta get stuff. TO say i gotta
get some stuff off, my chest Much like phil. Did yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
He, DID yeah i. RESPECT him i respect him. For
it when we, come back who should we have like
come in to talk to. The, Team well i'll, you
know everyone kind of makes the same. Rounds now I've
Seen jelly roll talking to four, different TEAMS and i.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
Wouldn't walk across the street To See. Jelly roll, that's cool,
he's fine he's getting a full. Fifteen minutes I've seen
gruden is at a bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Of spots He's At ohio, state now but he's probably
doing that same thing where he's, talking about, you know people.
Into dreams i'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Sat nightmares i'm going to tell You what.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Into nightmare The original Dreams and nightmare Speech From hard
knocks is one of the Best things i've. Ever seen
Unfortunately For, John gruden i've heard that speech in about
five different places.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Since then.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
It is It's like i've heard. That before but let's run.
A back we got to.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Come up we got to come up with somebody that
should come speak to the team to get them right for.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
The season think about that over. The break we'll give
our answer when we come to take. Listener submissions, listener
submissions send us. A Tweet Tony underscore pike might be
top of the, list right mo would. Be awesome we'll
give ours and an injury to finish up our. Number
two NEXT on espn Fifteen Thirty Cincinnati sports STATION Wc.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Wise cincy three sixty CONTINUES on espn, Fifteen thirty cincinnati's
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are starting to matriculate out onto the practice field, Here
Today zach taylor is speaking to. The media we'll try

(01:20:37):
to get that turned around and we'll play that for
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(01:21:26):
bullpen Session. On monday he is scheduled to throw off
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earlier this week and is expected to do So again
friday in front of team staff When the reds Are.
In Arizona ian jabo has been scheduled to undergo, arthroscopic
Surgery And tyler stevenson is placed on the ten day

(01:21:47):
injured list with a fractured thumb Retroactive to. August seventeenth
we will we'll Get The zach, taylor AUDIO but i
do know from part of, That, audio austin we know
that a season has ended for an offensive lineman For.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
The, Bengals Yeah zach taylor meeting with the media. Right
now he went into further detail on all of the
injuries that we'll get to you coming up in the,
Third hour but he did Say That, cordell volson who
suffered a shoulder injury in practice, last weekend is going
to have shoulder surgery and he expects that surgery To
End cordel. Vulson's season doesn't know, for sure but he

(01:22:27):
expects that to be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
The case that also would end any chance of you
being at the dock ory deck.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
For, opening yeah it was a. Fun thought it would
have been.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Great content, but unfortunately and, maybe fortunately but, maybe unfortunately nobody.
Really knows not gonna Happen because cordell is not going
to be healthy.

Speaker 7 (01:22:48):
To play.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
We will we'll Get That zach taylor audio on air
as soon as. We can in our, number three did
you did you give any thought to who you'd like
to come in and maybe speak to, this team talk
for me to go against old Sweet. LOU man i think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
They wouldn't be able to understand anything. He's saying, For,
ONE no i don't. Think so.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Somebody tweeted at us, And Said, Bill, cunningham hell, no nobody, no, chance,
dude clown.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
No chance.

Speaker 7 (01:23:30):
It's a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
GOOD guy i still.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
Don't, know yeah, YOU know i thought of a Guy Like,
maurice clarett, his story his, motivational story. His testimony some would,
even say What About. Inky johnson inky has made a
living on that and is incredible and. Motivational Speakers david
goggins is a. Big one Who everards.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
What About? Perry oots.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
You want to talk? About one this on it for a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Long time get back up on your horse and let's
figure it Out With. Perry OOTS.

Speaker 26 (01:24:07):
But i?

Speaker 7 (01:24:07):
Like that.

Speaker 26 (01:24:09):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
About uh What About? Scott Saderfield About tommy?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Tubberville tubs he's claiming some, national titles isn't?

Speaker 12 (01:24:18):
He?

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
IT auburn.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
About that see? What see what do you do when
You let michigan off?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
The hook?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
All hell anybody can have a? National title now all
hell has.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Broken loose i'm looking at. Other Ones bear grills is, on.
HERE motivation I Saw.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Bear grills is doing Something At crossroads church.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Coming Out caesar mulaney's the. Dog whisperer not sure how
he'd be In the not interested? On defense you want
a bunch?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Of dogs What About? Hugh jackson h trot him out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
THERE again.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I don't think it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Bad idea someone's gotta someone's got to galvanize this Time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
With, hubbard gone There's no marvin.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Guys left, That's right so maybe Just let carris get
up there and talk to. The, team no there's got
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Someone, outside yeah gotta be somebody outside.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
The team, all right continue to get us.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Your submissions it's gonna hit us at like three o'clock
this morning who we.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Should, be, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yep i'm going to see someone come across. The feed
someone's gonna come across the timeline and we'll figure.

Speaker 6 (01:25:21):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Out then, for now we'll break our three is next
we'll Get Some ZACH TAYLOR.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
A t barrett Off the bears right now THOUGH. J,
T Barrett Though joe burrow. SAID. J t barrett taught
him how to be. A leader i taught him about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Someone now about Being in, my answer you want to
get someone, IN here I GO. Coach, o okay. All
right did you see the story over the Weekend THAT
coach o did talking about When when joe came to
visit he was verbally committed to The. Bear, cats yeah
that he said everything that he was told he was
going to be A. Bear cat he told kind of
like the watered down version of. That story there's an

(01:25:55):
extended version out there somewhere about How when joe CAME
to lsu and how they didn't like all the things
they went through to get crawfish to this restaurant that didn't,
serve crawfish like it ended, up happening but like the
hoops they jumped through and all, of it And recruiting, Joe's,
brother yeah all Them because joe left and, WAS like
i don't want to talk. To anyone i'm gonna Decide.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
On.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Thursday Yeah coach, o's, Like nah i'm gonna get to somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
GOOD coaching I MISSED coach o just because of your
Impression OF. Coach, o yep, thank you which is not,
that good but spot, you know he said he used
to drink twelve to fifteen red bulls.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
A day that does not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Surprise me and he said he's now down. To six
oh good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
For him.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
How is?

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
That possible how is? He, alive seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Especially in a like a stress stressful. Work, too hm
your heart rate after twelve red bulls and then you got,
to go.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
COACH yeah i mean somebody asked him when when They
beat alabama what he did after the game, to celebrate
and he said he had A ham sandwich To Watch sports, center.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yep which by, The Way sports Center With rich eyes the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Other, night yeah that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
WAS cool i saw Our Guy John bouchie gross's back.
As well boci's gonna be on sports in the next.
Few nights doesn't, surprise me, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Shout out The. Coach Os, my god get him. In
here we got SUCH an. Lsu contingent give Me coach
o to rile up. The guys our three, Is Next
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helps make. This possible let's kick off our number three
with what we have just finished hearing as the team
is now coming out here, To Practice zach taylor speaking
to members of. The media here's about fifteen minutes Of
what zach had. TO say.

Speaker 35 (01:29:02):
I think we're getting through a lot, of guys, you
know so, right now some guys are still day. To
Day lucas patricks wasn't as severe as as we initially
thought during, the game so we'll manage some guys through.
This week lucas would be a guy that fits. That,
category gisek you would be a guy that continues to
be day to day.

Speaker 14 (01:29:19):
Right now he's in.

Speaker 35 (01:29:20):
Good Shape drew sample coming at, this game will be
day to day. This, week again these are guys that
could play this weekend if we needed. Them to trying
To think whoil's fits.

Speaker 14 (01:29:30):
That Category.

Speaker 35 (01:29:32):
Miles Murphy, similar SO so i think there's a lot
of guys right there that NOBODY that i really expect
to extend into.

Speaker 14 (01:29:39):
Next WEEK so i think we're in realgay.

Speaker 35 (01:29:41):
Shape there cordell is going to have, shoulder SURGERY so
i expect him to be at The ear but we'll
get more information, on that but right now that that's
a tough one.

Speaker 14 (01:29:53):
For him he's been a guy that's really worked hard.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
For US.

Speaker 35 (01:29:56):
And i wouldn't say it's set in stone until you
have the ser but that's that's the direction that seems
to be. Heady practice he heard it. In, practice yeah
that's something.

Speaker 14 (01:30:06):
Exact where that the team could could use, some depth Possibly,
To god we're still working.

Speaker 13 (01:30:11):
Through it.

Speaker 35 (01:30:11):
You know we got guys competing for for a lot
of the jobs there and And so i'm excited to
see how that shakes out over the next.

Speaker 14 (01:30:16):
Two Weeks how.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Cody doing physically and could he get another look back.

Speaker 35 (01:30:19):
At he's A guy i think similar held him out
that last game just because some guys fighting through injuries
and they could set. Him back they're important pieces for us.
Moving forward so he'll we'll see where he's at today,
and tomorrow but he can continue to work.

Speaker 34 (01:30:36):
Through, it.

Speaker 14 (01:30:37):
Yeah he's still he's still involved in everything we're doing.

Speaker 7 (01:30:39):
Right now and then how do? YOU think.

Speaker 35 (01:30:43):
I thought there were some good things and there's some
things we'll need to continue to improve as the game.
Went On but i've loved. His mindset i've loved his attention.
To detail he's got all the traits and and mindset
that we're, looking for AND so i think that he's
getting more and more comfortable in that role as he's
played more guard.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
For us.

Speaker 14 (01:31:00):
There was a Report that dalton came to visit with.

Speaker 29 (01:31:04):
You guys how was?

Speaker 14 (01:31:04):
That, VISIT yeah i probably won't speak on any visitors
or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Like that would stood out defensively with the. First team
after watching the, TEAMS.

Speaker 35 (01:31:12):
Act, i thought, you know some of the things that
that we saw initially in that, first drive the staff
and players did a great job adjusting to you know
where those things weren't issues for us as we. Went
On so i'll be excited to get through this preseason
and and really play real football and do the Things
that i've seen us do. In practice there's the good
of learning experience for a couple of the guys that
were in positions there that we need to improve at

(01:31:35):
and be better at because you'll see it again at
some point in.

Speaker 33 (01:31:37):
The year, BUT.

Speaker 35 (01:31:39):
Again i like the direction our defense, is GOING and
i thought as that game, went on they. Played outstanding,
you know it's held them to, three points created two turnovers,
for us helped take command of the game really Starting
with tyson's Pick to, barrett's pick and and doing a
good job.

Speaker 7 (01:31:54):
There in the.

Speaker 14 (01:31:55):
Fourth quarter didn't have to fill in their.

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
Down a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Of monalization that's hard at.

Speaker 14 (01:32:01):
RIGHT guard I don't i don't really have a date
said in my.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Head part of something would.

Speaker 14 (01:32:09):
Have liked, MAYBE well, i mean we've.

Speaker 35 (01:32:11):
Had guys battling through injuries almost the, Entire TIME so
i don't think that any any schedule we would have
had on would have been able to stand up because
the guys have been paying through.

Speaker 14 (01:32:19):
Different, STUFF.

Speaker 35 (01:32:23):
Yeah i thing both making really good progress and so
we'll super that at these two.

Speaker 14 (01:32:27):
Days, today, yeah yeah when you plan to ramp things
up WITH the dja, AND.

Speaker 11 (01:32:33):
Team i know he's.

Speaker 35 (01:32:34):
Doing, something yeah today would be the first day he
starts working in. Team drills today is going to be.
Very limited we played two. DAYS ago i had a
grand PLANS when i did this a couple of, weeks
ago AND then i scaled way back after seeing the
team today and kind of what they.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
Went through SO.

Speaker 35 (01:32:51):
As i say that he was he was scheduled to
take live. Team reps we've taken away all the live
eleven on eleven, reps today so it'll just be jogged
through and you see him. Out there but the plan
was to get him in there for the live. Reps,
today well the play.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Of the first team defense in the first two preseason
games impact whether you'd play them in the third.

Speaker 35 (01:33:08):
Preseason, game no on any, Stage point i'm not anticipating
in any, storage point this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Shoe lobby pretty hard to maybe if that sound like he.

Speaker 14 (01:33:16):
WOULDN'T mind i haven't talked in depth with the players
about this. Third game i've Talked.

Speaker 35 (01:33:22):
TO joe i haven't specifically told these guys they're, not
playing but they're.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
NOT playing i know.

Speaker 24 (01:33:26):
You're not making any final decisions, right now but is
there anything else you need to See From?

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
MITCH tinsley, i mean based on what he's, DONE already i.

Speaker 35 (01:33:33):
Want all these guys to continue to be consistent all
the way through the bell and he's had a tremendous
camp up to this point and so just continue to
work hard and, you know we'll just keep going. From
there but but really impressed with again all the things
we've stated in here before you got to see it
live and in Color on, Monday night and happy for
guys that just continue just to do things the right

(01:33:54):
way and create the opportunities for themselves and those. Plays
Happen and mitch is a guy on the big stage for.
That occurred but there's a lot of guys you know
that don't always get touch the ball THAT that i
think have continued to progress that, way too and maybe
too many a name at.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
This point how do you feel like and has played
in the preseason, Games specifically.

Speaker 35 (01:34:12):
So, YEAH well i think there's there's learning to be done,
for him but he's had a standing camp and a
guy that we're really excited about the room as, A
whole i think has only gotten better over, training camp
where there's there's a lot of really good players, in
there and it's a room that's created a lot of
depth from the top to, the Bottom and i'm really excited.
About It and demetrius is a guy that really see

(01:34:35):
something once and you make a correction and the next
time his. Lights out and so his improvement is just
going to continue to be through the roof, for Us
and i'm really excited about where he's at.

Speaker 14 (01:34:44):
This point camp with your position has started?

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Really throughout is that still the view that whereas there
is that he's in a competition.

Speaker 7 (01:34:51):
In your mind, FOR somebody.

Speaker 35 (01:34:53):
I think guys, aren't opportunities, You know and SO again
I Think baron warren had GREAT games u and we're
always going to be looking for roles for all these guys,
to play, and, so uh Nothing's ever i'm not trying
to create some sort of. Controversy here everybody's just trying
to find roles that we can utilize them and guys
have earned roles and so we'll just continue as as

(01:35:15):
the season progresses to see how we want to. Utilize
everybody but what you do is you're, sitting here and
you've got a really good group of linebackers that you're excited,
to use and they've all earned opportunity and and they've
all had great practices and the games have really shown
a lot of guys in a, positive light and just
excited for that room.

Speaker 14 (01:35:30):
MOVING before i feel really good. About it what's the?

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Biggest play this roster is better than it.

Speaker 14 (01:35:35):
WASN'T here i feel good about where our teams are.

Speaker 35 (01:35:39):
Right now and So Again i'm i'm excited to get
through the preseason and go play GAMES because i SEE
what i see, in practice And so i'm just really
excited from top to bottom about a lot of the
players that we have.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
And trust the spine all the way through the.

Speaker 7 (01:35:55):
Whole.

Speaker 26 (01:35:55):
Team session.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Why was that such a big point of ephisides after?

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Alass season why is why is that So port.

Speaker 35 (01:36:06):
You're talking about the, interior line THE interior d line and. The,
linebackers yeah THAT'S just i felt like where we need,
to address so the. Guard spots, you know we went
and found guys that we felt like could come and
compete de, tackle wise that's just where a. Whole was,
you know we had one to leave in, free agents
so we went AND got tj and he's been great.
For us then we're counting on these guys in the
second years to step up as well.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Find out how.

Speaker 14 (01:36:32):
Well, he's, yeah.

Speaker 35 (01:36:34):
Yeah exactly that's a hard one because he's been, a
guy he's been a starter, for us he's been a backup.
For us all he's ever done is come to work
and try to try to be The best cincinnati angle
he can be and just not always agreeing with what,
we're doing, you know in terms of him not being a,
starter anymore but just handled it in such a professional

(01:36:56):
way and just been a team player through. And through
and that's why he's been his. Entire life and so
any player that has has an issue, like this you
know where it's a surgery, that's gonna, you know be
significant hit, to them you never want.

Speaker 14 (01:37:09):
To see him.

Speaker 35 (01:37:09):
Go Through but cordell's just feels a little different because
of what he's given to us and his approach, every
day and you want everybody to have that, same approach
and so that's difficult news for him to have to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Deal with you imagined the defense being optimistic with what
you've seen, in practice there have been the preseason is
important to make sure the group goes into the season. Being,
optimistic yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:37:32):
WE are i absolutely think that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:33):
We are.

Speaker 14 (01:37:34):
You know, It's again i've never read too much in.

Speaker 35 (01:37:37):
THE preseason, i mean if we read into, The preseason
jamar wouldn't have played it down, for us. You know
and and THAT was i still go through my notes
on how we Felt on august eighteenth about some of
the rookies we've had in the past and the growth
that they've shown over at the end of training camp
and once the lights come on and in games and
they play a full seventy snaps and what that does
for him as opposed to paying. Ten snaps And so

(01:37:59):
i'm just really excited about the direction of. THE defense
i think there's a lot of. Positivity there we believe
in everybody on this team and excited to get through
this last preseason game and then go play.

Speaker 11 (01:38:10):
For real it was a small, sample size but when
you Think of jackson's first team.

Speaker 35 (01:38:15):
ACTUALLY good i think it's just good to get him
back on the grass and he's been doing well, in
practice so for him to it's more for him just
to get, out there excited to get him back in
the mix.

Speaker 19 (01:38:24):
There with LESS stress i guess significance apply to the
preseason nowadays and evaluating, a roster but.

Speaker 14 (01:38:35):
Training camp or, more less it's.

Speaker 35 (01:38:38):
A balance it's a balance of how you've seen, guys
practice how you see guys performing.

Speaker 14 (01:38:42):
The games.

Speaker 35 (01:38:44):
Sometimes if you're looking at the depth of, the roster
it can be maybe they're not always in the best
opportunity in a game to get, the showcases so you
can find ways to highlight and practice to really assess.

Speaker 14 (01:38:53):
Those guys it's a it's a.

Speaker 35 (01:38:55):
Balance there and the roster is, expanded now so there's
not the cut down where guys were maybe. Battling earlier
there's one big giant cut at the, very end and
you're keeping sixteen on the, practice squad so you're saying
goodbye to, fewer players and so the opportunity now is.
Still there not only has the practice, squad expanded but
the standard elevations have, popped up and so now there's

(01:39:16):
an immediate opportunity for players actually playing games on the
fifty five roster and not have to risk being cut
after the elevation like it used. To be so train
the vision of training camp and how you evaluate the
rustler's really evolved over the LAST, since covid REALLY, since
covid and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
It doesn't seem like you're overleak concerned preseason performance as
opposed to.

Speaker 14 (01:39:37):
How, the team.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
How player.

Speaker 35 (01:39:43):
We want to go out there and shut down every
offense we play in the preseason and score a bunch
of points on but an overreaction to to five to,
Ten plays you're not going to get that. FROM me
i can promise you that that's a fair.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Child's play and the two preseason games added to the
belief that it's.

Speaker 7 (01:39:58):
Not going to be too big.

Speaker 35 (01:39:59):
For, him yeah and then there's gonna be things he
hasn't seen yet from our defense and. Other teams, you
know there's some vanilla looks we've gotten from. Other teams
so there will be that element as we Get into Cleveland,
And jackie southernville and, so forth of things that, you
know we're seeing full speed for the first time because
that's unique to. That defense and so it'll be how
quickly he can adapt. All that, we'll see, you know

(01:40:21):
what type of player he can.

Speaker 14 (01:40:22):
Potentially be, For us Browning go saturday.

Speaker 25 (01:40:25):
Or just.

Speaker 35 (01:40:27):
I'm not ready to answer that. Question yet you'll see
a Lot of Desmond and peyton will get in there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
As well saw the plan that you Had For joe
burrow laid out in.

Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
The preseason did you get everything you wanted out of
what he got in those?

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Two, GAMES.

Speaker 35 (01:40:44):
Well i think just just being out there and leading
not only a. First group then we sat the, receivers down,
you know a couple of Guys and, chase down and
he got a chance to throw the Touchdown to charlie
and work all those different guys and get in There
with tage and Work with. Taje TOO so i think
there was there was a lot of. Benefits there, you
know let us on four touchdown drives and, five possessions

(01:41:04):
and really the fifth possession we got called for an,
illegal procedure, you know a neutral's interfaction. With you i'd
like to argue with a, little bit so that one
set us back and derailed. That DRIVE but i, thought
overall it, was good good work.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
For him it was.

Speaker 35 (01:41:20):
Really good that's that's been a core concept for us
for a. LONG time a lot of rets there really
threaded the needle. On there the protection. Was outstanding, you
know he had a chance to go one To, to
charlie come across on the, third progression AND so i
thought it was really good execution on a point that
we've we've wrapped a. Million times, you know he's still
on that route to a bunch of guys. OVER there
i actually be curious how many touchdowns and how many

(01:41:41):
different receivers he's thrown on. That route, you know that
would be a good stat, For, you charlie if you
can go back and document all the training camp reps so.

Speaker 26 (01:41:49):
Which shows so adamant that he wants to get, us
nay let him get out and has the Aspirations for
what does that say?

Speaker 35 (01:41:56):
Moving back, is, that well it's, you know the THE
things i have to come to grip with as as.
The coach or you can't live. In fear you can't
think if we walk on, the field someone's.

Speaker 14 (01:42:06):
Getting hurt you. Just can't you can't operate. That way
that's that's a horrible way to live.

Speaker 35 (01:42:09):
Your life and so you gotta go out there and
play football and trust the guys that are going to
protect themselves and understand. The situation and but it's good
to go out there AND feel i feel further along
as as an as a team right NOW than i
did last year because these guys have played in two.

Speaker 14 (01:42:24):
PRESETSON games i feel better about.

Speaker 35 (01:42:25):
IT now i didn't always know what to compare, it
TO but i do after after letting our guys get
out there and experience it and do good things and
make mistakes that we have, TO correct i, feel better,
you know going into the early parts of the SEASON
than i probably did a REALLY good i thought the protection,

(01:42:46):
was outstanding. You know and there's there's a tricky situation
where he scrambled backwards and we've made a big emphasis
on crackback blocks in blindside blocks because the linemen have
been penalized over the year is for those shots, they
take and so our guys got caught in a tricky
situation that we were able to educate them on how

(01:43:06):
we can avoid the penalty and still impact.

Speaker 14 (01:43:09):
The play so we was ended up being a.

Speaker 35 (01:43:12):
Strange rep that was a very coachable rep for us
in a lot, of ways from scramble rules beyond the
line of scrimmage that you couldn't even, probably see to
how the whole thing. Got handled so that was a.
Quirky rep but aside, FROM that i thought it was really.
Good protection multiple backs got the chance to Protect Aaj
samaj noah got in there one time on a protection

(01:43:34):
play where he was running back in. The backfield so
it was really good stuff for our entirety of.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Our offense, all right that is Most Of, zach taylor
who just spoke to members of the media before the
team headed out here. FOR practice i can now see
why they were in no rush to get. Out here
no Helmets, today austin. No pads it is jerseys. And,
shorts wow For The cincinnati. Bengals today i'm a little disappointed.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
By, THAT yeah i think, you know as You heard zach,
say there, he had, you know big grand plans for
this up until the way.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
Came in some of those guys came in after the
game against.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
The, Commandit yeah i'm sure is going to be. Really
excited no helmets. Is, crazy yeah now there's helmets on.
The SIDELINES so i don't know if they'll compared or
to where They, actually no they're going through some. Right
now looks like scout. TEAM stuff. I believe right now
it's about as walk through as you.

Speaker 12 (01:44:30):
Can GET.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
What I and i'm, not Positive but i'm looking at
some of. The numbers so they have the players going
against the first team offense right now are our. Offensive
backups and they have these like half jerseys on with numbers,
on them and FROM what i, can tell the numbers
match up to the numbers That The cleveland browns would
be wearing on the. Defensive line.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
That's correct so if you've ever seen them, practice before
they do have those what they're, called, pennies yep that
you wear over your jerseys or over whatever. You're wearing
and that is so that everyone gets used to knowing
where number ninety, five, is yes, for.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Example number ninety five and running through some sets, right
now and from a walkthrough point, of view, let's break let's.
Come back let's talk a little bit more About What
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management any really good. At Those mo Is Back, Zach
taylor zachy we played his his comments to kick off
the third and. Final hour there a. Couple updates he
is not commenting Anything On dalton riisener at. This point
nothing to say from the visit. From, yesterday NOW what
i think. IS interesting i Thought today austin would be a.

(01:46:15):
BIG day i thought it would be a big day
because They, played monday they were. Off yesterday tomorrow will
be a big day of getting the guys that are Gonna.
Play Saturday And zach, taylor liuded probably no starters Playing,
on saturday so you got to get all those other
guys ready to Go. For Saturday, On thursday friday would
be a walkthrough Game, day saturday. That's it camp. IS

(01:46:37):
over i thought today was the day we Would circle
and if you Listen To Zach, taylor austin he said
in the grand plans that he had today was gonna
be a. Big day and then apparently he saw how
the team, came in maybe saw some of the guys,
banged up and has since scrapped those plans and has
brought together essentially a glorified, walkthrough today missing an. OPPORTUNITY

(01:47:01):
today i would like.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
To know what exactly you expected, from them because you
said you expected a.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
BIG day i.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
THOUGHT elevens i thought we'd get. MORE team i thought
we'd let's watch, the film let's correct what, went wrong
let's build on, some stuff and let's get into. Some
team he was ASKED About bj hill and, he said
the original plan WAS for bj to go live in team,
drills today and then he came back, and said we're
not going to do any live team. Drills TODAY so

(01:47:27):
i would have at least thought we would have gotten some,
team work some team drills happening out. Here today now
there are five or six players going through souff on the.
Rehab Field jermaine burton is going through, normal STRETCHES so
i guess that would be a good sign For The.
Cincinnati bengals BUT what i keep going Back to AUSTIN
and i can't shake it is this Thought that zach

(01:47:51):
is happy with, the defense happy with how, they've practiced
happy with how they adjusted as the game went On on,
monday night and what he has seen thus far from,
the defense or, lack thereof won't impact them being available
or them Playing. On saturday and, it's hard right because
you're not gonna come out, and, say man our defense stinks.
Right now, you could but that's Not Who zach, Taylor

(01:48:15):
is so you're gonna try to continue to build these.
GUYS up i just don't THINK how i don't understand
how anyone can listening to buy into that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
Thought, process yeah it's tough to say on one hand
that your offense desperately needs the Reps And joe burrow
needs the reps and then kind of not say that
about the way your defense, has Performed right that to
me is just kind of. Being hypocritical so maybe he's
saying that more than anything to protect his defense and

(01:48:43):
protect the players on the team from any further criticism.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Than what they're. ALREADY getting i guess that's probably what.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
That is but to, your point if you're going to
say how much and how important it's been that the
offense has desperately needed precs, and reps, one of if
not the best offense, in football you're going to to
talk about how important those offseason. Reps are but then
you're gonna say that the reps the defense is getting
they're not. That, important yeah THAT'S what i. Just, SAID

(01:49:12):
yeah i don't see how that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
ADDS up i think we're also lumping too many people
into the idea that the offense. Needs reps it's not,
the Offense It's. Joe, burrow yeah that is All. About
joe it is All About joe burrow getting the reps
he feels he needs so that he doesn't put stinkers
up in the first two weeks of the season like

(01:49:36):
he has in. The past that's ultimately all it comes.
Down TO and i think This was Joe TELLING zach i,
NEED this i, want This and, zach's like, all, right
fine but also not trying to put too much pressure
on the defense, to, say oh this is a finished
product of who, they are because maybe he doesn't feel

(01:49:56):
like that's really reflective of. Them now he did, say
though they liked what he saw from the, offensive Line
and i'm starting to agree with him a little bit.
On that THE more i, watch it THE more i
look at some of, the grades THE more i kind
of look at all the different films and. DIFFERENT players
i didn't think they were as bad maybe as we
Thought against washington And against. Philadelphia Again dylan fairchild continues to.

(01:50:25):
Look Good lucas patrick. Wasn't great, you know the one
play that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Can start this Season With lucas patrick in, my, OPINION.

Speaker 5 (01:50:31):
Well i agree, with you but that's probably how it's, gonna.
Go right so, you know the other, thing too is
that one Play where joe was running around and ended
up getting sacked right in front of the. Goal line
if you go back and watch, that play that was
supposed to be a double Team With amarus Mems And,
lucas patrick and so he the Defender Rushes lucas patrick's

(01:50:53):
outside shoulder which is supposed to Be A marius mims,
inside Shoulder And lucas patrick thinks he, has Help but
amarius mems eyes and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Past set were. Not correct and.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
Well that's my assumption based off off, of that because
if you look at, The Helmet amarius mims is looking
to the outside almost like he's looking for, the chip
and the guy just splits the double team is right
fast right between the two.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Of, THEM yeah i don't think the chips on either side, were,
GREAT right i think those need to be better, as
well because, to me need to stunt.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
The linemen, to me and obviously you should look, at
it and your opinion is carries a lot more weight.
Than mine but it felt Like A marius mims eyes
were in the wrong place and they just got beat
speed wise off. The line and but that's, the thing
like one bad rep could, Change everything and that's the.
SCARY part i was saying this. Earlier today because of

(01:51:50):
the different ways that you can overcome a bad offensive
line and the experience that this franchise has in, DOING
so i feel better that POSITION than i did two.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
WEEKS ago i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:52:02):
Feel great, about IT but i feel better about it
in the ways you can adjust the play call and
the all that to kind of protect yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
From It but i'm petrified ABOUT the. D.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
LINE yeah i THINK if, i thought if you did
get something Done, with riisner that you feel pretty good
Going into. Game one now that might still be. The
case i'm still a little hesitant If It's, Lucas patrick,
but yeah the defense is a completely. Different story let's take.
A break we'll be quick on the, other side and
we'll Get with mulwaggar for quick hits after that before

(01:52:35):
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Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
You, GOT well i just want to clear something. UP
here i just got a tweet from, Our. Guy harlan,
harlan goes what's with the animosity between You?

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
And?

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
Tony oh definitely can hear it in that?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Last?

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
Conversation, oh really do we have? ANY animosity i don't.
THINK so i don't. THINK so i think that was just. A, Conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Yeah and you said how do, you said how do?
You know and the, ANSWER is i. DON'T know i,
didn't KNOW.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
If i, didn't KNOW if i admit like they had
broken down or they had talked about some of, those
PLAYS because i didn't hear the Entirety Of zach taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
Actual game it's just two men having, a conversation but.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
It is it's going. To be it's not like anything
that happens from Here and saturday and the start of
the Season at cleveland is going to change what we
think about where this team is. At correct we have
questions that we need to see on the, offensive line
and what the defense has shown or not shown throughout
training camp is not going to change based on what

(01:54:27):
happens in a practice or preseason game. Number three those
things are going to stick with this team until they
take the Field at cleveland and we see what.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
Team emerges what matters most is what happens over the next,
eight days Primarily from august twenty sixth at four Pm
until august. Thirty, first, basically.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Yeah an active time For, the bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
Which is when at four pm on the, twenty six
all clubs must reduce their rosters to a maximum, fifty
three And on august, twenty seventh the claiming period for
players placed on waivers will expire. At noon so And
then august thirty first is the final day of preseason

(01:55:13):
training camp for.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
ALL clubs i think we're gonna TRY to I think
mona are going to try to get together because, you
know as that's, getting underway we'll be getting ready to
hand to Head To kansas city For the bengal Or the.
Bearcats OPENER and I thought MO and i could maybe
find a spot to maybe have a dinner and pull
a spreadsheet out sure and just kind of diagnose all
the players that have been cut and then make best

(01:55:35):
fits available For this. BENGALS team i would imagine massive
roster moves will happen in that short amount, of time but,
it is it's gonna be something, to watch it's gonna.
BE important i don't think as the defense is, right
now they're good enough to compete at a championship level IN.
The nfl and we'll see if anything happens between now
and when they Head. To cleveland but, for now when we,

(01:55:56):
Get back molagu will join us we've got some. Quick
hits we'll pass. It off see what he's got in
store For The moegar show on THREE on espn Fifteen
Thirty Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 (01:56:04):
Sports station From The Tom reckton heating and AIRNTENUES on espn,
Fifteen Thirty cincinnati's. Sports station it's Time for cincy three
sixty quick HITS on espn.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Fifteenth looking For most here he is setting up For The.
Moegar show it takes over in just a couple of
minutes Live at bengals. Training camp you're listening On the
home Of, THE bengals espn Fifteen Thirty Cincinnati. SPORTS. STATION
mo i couldn't help but here as you delivered your
pre show video. Over, there yeah load management season. Is done.

Speaker 26 (01:56:34):
It's over good successful load. Management season. Good, year yeah
it was very. Good, year refreshed ready. TO go i
almost forgot we were HERE until i saw. Your, video
Yeah and, i'm, like, oh Yeah. It's wednesday, that's right
we're There on wednesday during the load.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Management season, for you how much did you get To
enjoy monday Night Watching joe burrow?

Speaker 26 (01:56:51):
Run around so that's one of the Most miserable here's
the thing like his preseason, games go if you, didn't
care pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Entertaining day.

Speaker 26 (01:56:57):
My. Gosh yeah but like if you didn't care and
you weren't, watching Squirming Watching joe burrow do whatever the
hell he was doing when he was being chased as preseason,
games go pretty, entertaining, tilt right? That was that was
as nerve wracking as watching the, playoff games, you know
When the bengals used to make.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
The playoffs and now after we've Heard from zach to
know that it really didn't matter because it's what happens
here at practice for, THE defense i feel much better
about that side of the ball till We're big bearcat.

Speaker 26 (01:57:24):
Basketball fans Remember the bearcats used To Have, adam, rachanyak
right who would, you, know like couldn't make, a shot
but they would.

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
Always say man.

Speaker 26 (01:57:33):
In Practice They, Titus Rubles Remember, titus titus, good player like,
defend guarden, multiple positions, good passer. Miserable shooter but you
would hear like men, in practice he lights. It UP
so i am very very very very worn out by
hearing about how good players are in practice WHEN what
i see in games is the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Exact, opposite yep what do you got on the show
today is this? Quick hits this is other than the
punting battle we're seeing take place. Right NOW can i
just a couple OF things i want to address with.

Speaker 26 (01:58:04):
You GUYS so i just parked at this parking lot across,
the Street and i'm sitting in my CAR and i really,
don't notice, you know what's happening next.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
To Me but i'm in my Car and.

Speaker 26 (01:58:14):
I'm paying on the app because if you don't pay
on that app immediately here's. A dude like the. Other
DAY when i came, last week there was a guy
like circling the Car as i'm paying for, my PARKING
and i held up. The phone, i'm, like, HEY buddy,
i paid take your ticket. Somewhere else so, THIS time
i pay in my car And as i'm, DOING so
i kind of detect next to me there's people in
the car next, to ME and i just look over

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and it's Like two it's a man and a woman probably,
late thirties, early forties who look like they're Parked At
duvou park in.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
High school, oh wow just going.

Speaker 26 (01:58:45):
At it Absolute. Love newton's and at, some point like
the GUY and i made. Eye contact he was in the,
driver's SEAT and I just i kind of just gave my.
Thumbs up what is the age limit for making out
in a car at two thirty in. THE afternoon i
DON'T think i don't think there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Is, one also it might have been on break from
what they were doing out here with this jackhammer.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
A broadcast do we think that those people you know
are supposed to be doing that with?

Speaker 26 (01:59:09):
One another that's, the, thing right that is that is
not a relationship that's on the up. And, up now
they had work it looked like. Work, clothes sure so let's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Go find a parking Took away.

Speaker 26 (01:59:21):
Wednesday at, two fifteen two thirty in. The afternoon let's
let's let's jump down to the car on the parking
lot where we pay five dollars for. Twelve hours you
got the dude circling and waiting to, write tickets and
you got two people. SUCKING face i, mean this this
was not just a. Brief embrace this, wasn't, like, hey
passion we've arrived at the. Parking lot time to go our.
Separate ways this was they might be listening to us

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right now at the height. Of passion so there's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Number one.

Speaker 26 (01:59:47):
NUMBER two i have signed often since the weekend We've
Had jake frayley got Dfaed. ON sunday i have seen
him described as a. Fan, Favorite Oh, jake frayley by,
all accounts is a. Wonderful, guy y there's a place
in the big leagues. For him not an exceptionally. Great
player it's not like They Let eric davis Go or
paul O'Neill go in his pame, but whatever he got his.

(02:00:08):
Shot here but over the Course of jake's Time, in
cincinnati did you ever think did you ever hear somebody
go man going to, the ballpark can't wait To Watch?

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Jake?

Speaker 4 (02:00:15):
Frayley, Never okay i've seen this describe. Multiple times?

Speaker 26 (02:00:19):
Any?

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Idea why?

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
No clue because he had some tough stuff off, The
field so everybody, was, like oh maybe he played hard
and you still tried to play.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Through that that's The only that's, the thing very.

Speaker 26 (02:00:32):
Good point didn't think. About that he did go through
a lot with, his child and so that may. Be
IT but i never Looked At jake frayley through the
lens of.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
Fan, favorite yeah can you think?

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Of it can you think Of A jake? Frayley moment
didn't he like usher In the.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Viking, helmet yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:00:50):
He had the bobblehead With the. VIKING bobheaders i think
is the best stadium Giveaway the reds have.

Speaker 26 (02:00:54):
Ever done that bobblehead with the cake ten ten lunchbox
man did it One Year furniture.

Speaker 4 (02:00:59):
FAIR lunch i still have it in.

Speaker 5 (02:01:00):
My basement think, this too The Au haaneo surez trade
That the. Red's made mh They Got, Justin Dunn jake
Fraley And. Brandon, williamson, no.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
No how's that? Trade look?

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
Not great.

Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
Not Good connor phillips was a part of that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Deal, too yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
We'll see it's probably gonna pitch in the eighth. Inning
tonight what did? You ask what's on the?

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
Show today what do you got?

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
COMING up i think people are missing the point when
it comes to. The Defense so i'm.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Gonna help, Oh okay i'm.

Speaker 26 (02:01:30):
Gonna Help anthony munos is gonna be on the Show
If dalton reisner doesn't, SIGN here I Think anthony anthony
move over and. Play, guard yeah they feel like he
still has some snabs.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
In him would You Take anthony muno's Currently Or, Lucas, patrick.

Speaker 4 (02:01:44):
Yeah, your mind, OF course. I would, I would i
Would take i'm trying to think Of.

Speaker 26 (02:01:49):
OTHER patrick's i Would Take, tara PATRICK the i would
Take Uh, DANAKILPATRICK harris i Would Take. Danica patrick i'm
trying to think About, The Lucas, George Patrick, PATRICK ewing I,
TAKE patrick I Take. Saint patrick cool Name The patrick
i'd rather have Them Over Lucas. Tim patrick but What
the bengals? Are, doing oh here's the. OTHER one i
didn't know if you guys knew this because you've. BEEN

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here i stopped off at the office today and we
are putting together A cutdown.

Speaker 4 (02:02:14):
Day show we're not going to do a draft, show anymore.

Speaker 26 (02:02:17):
And WE were i was, told, like hey if you
guys don't want to do, free agency Just take march
off because all that matters now Is. Cutdown day so
we're gonna broadcast from Somewhere On cutdown day into a
full blow since this is now the key day of,
the Offseason, cutdown day, waiver, Wire guys.

Speaker 4 (02:02:33):
I'm just joking.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
ABOUT that i bought. Into that oh what do.

Speaker 5 (02:02:36):
We got we've got breaking News From baltimore. Ravens camp
Ravens Quarterback lamar jackson left practice forty minutes early with
a trainer and Doctors trailing jackson was knocked down while making.
A throw stayed in for a, few plays but appeared
to be flexing his hand. And, Wrist Okay lamar jackson

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and banged up Today at ravens Training Came.

Speaker 26 (02:03:02):
Shamar stewart there got a guy who, hit him gonna
we're gonna have a big Topic in baltimore about how
we're gonna have a talk sit down with that.

Speaker 4 (02:03:10):
Guy too that's, big news. Big news it is.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
Perhaps counter green did anything last night to help his.

Speaker 4 (02:03:18):
TRADE value i just hope his teammates.

Speaker 26 (02:03:20):
Appreciated, it YEAH and I Hope tyler stevenson understands with his,
broken thumb WHICH can i ask you, a question why
didn't THEY just x ray his thumb when it first?

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
STARTED hurt i don't. Understand it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:30):
You're idiots they never do. Anything right they happens all.
The time he's got a. Sore thumb so we could
do one of.

Speaker 26 (02:03:37):
Two things we could we can have him TAKE an,
x ray or we can have him Catch a nicolodolo.
Bullpen session that's what.

Speaker 17 (02:03:44):
They did they.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
Chose that that is one of the most Remarkable things
i've ever.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Heard of the team facilities they have all the. Equipment
there you can get THE like x ray at. The,
facility yeah you don't have to.

Speaker 26 (02:03:54):
Go anywhere it ain't like YOU and i where it's
like we got to go INTO the Hsa over hey
is gonna be like they're gonna have the thing done in.
Twenty Minutes, so tyler your thumb? Really Hurts, huh, YEAH
yeah i can't play.

Speaker 21 (02:04:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
Now, cool well we were gonna.

Speaker 26 (02:04:08):
Have you TAKE an x ray to see if, it's
broken but we really need somebody to Catch that nicolodolo.

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
Bullpen session so could you do that and then we'll
get around to TAKING the? X ray what are?

Speaker 6 (02:04:16):
We?

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Doing?

Speaker 15 (02:04:18):
What?

Speaker 8 (02:04:18):
What what what are?

Speaker 12 (02:04:19):
We?

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
Doing Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
Hunter green last night.

Speaker 26 (02:04:23):
Was awesome SO what i hope Is That tyler stevenson
understands that if, you're hurt you have to come back
as soon.

Speaker 4 (02:04:29):
As, possible yeah, in fact catch with the cast if you.

Speaker 26 (02:04:31):
Have, to, yeah right a match shift glove if they
if they talk, about, like man we might have to amputate. Your,
Arm dude, That's fine i'm. Still playing you have to
because you've. Got it you can't slow play the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
Injury. Return yeah. Green's awesome unfortunate news YESTERDAY from Uh
the University. Of Cincinnati, Gisel, james yeah being let GO
and uh no longer with. The team it's been speculated
and reported on a lot as of late at this
point without knowing all. The details, basketball wise you lose

(02:05:03):
your returning, leading score which is. Always big but, personal
standpoint you want the guy to get better and hope
that he does.

Speaker 26 (02:05:09):
Get, BETTER yeah i if he, needs help and my
understanding is THAT'S why i hope he gets IT and
i hope. He's okay no matter where his basketball travels.
Take him from a pure, BASKETBALL standpoint i don't know
that they're losing. That Much gigsel james as a freshman.

(02:05:32):
Was Promising gigsel james as a sophomore. Was frustrating it's
not a great, outside shooter doesn't get to the free.
Throw line a lot of possessions with him just standing.
There dribbling not an. ELITE defender i don't know that
there's much of a separation between Him And dayda thomas
Since here harris is a better DEFENDER. Like i from
a pure, basketball Perspective The gizzle JAMES that i watched,

(02:05:55):
last season you can do better. Than now maybe he
played college basketball somewhere soon and ends up fulfilling the
promise that a lot of us thought he had as.

Speaker 4 (02:06:05):
A FRESHMAN but i didn't see. THE trajectory i didn't.

Speaker 7 (02:06:09):
See.

Speaker 26 (02:06:11):
Freshman, yeah YEAH like i If The gizsel james that
was on the floor last year was going to Be
The gigsel james on the floor, this year and you
remove him from. The, team again this is just the
basketball part. OF it i don't know that that's that
huge of.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
A loss what are you most looking forward to seeing
here today while you're here for the next, Three Hours.

Speaker 4 (02:06:31):
Dalton reisner he's not going to show.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Up today, no comment.

Speaker 3 (02:06:35):
No, Comment Oh reggie White Or reggie jackson for.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
What their career, in entirety Just Picked.

Speaker 4 (02:06:43):
Reggie Jackson reggie jackson is.

Speaker 26 (02:06:45):
An Eyeicon reggie white was Obviously the, minister defense, great
player really sort of ushered in.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Free agency ministry of defense Or, mister october.

Speaker 4 (02:06:53):
That's a, tough One.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
Mister.

Speaker 26 (02:06:55):
October Yeah But, reggie jackson like is it was a
seventies icon In The naked gun and like won three
titles With, the a's two With, the yankees went on
to have productive seasons With The, california angels and, just
like you can't tell the story of baseball during a

(02:07:15):
period of time where baseball still ruled without Talking About.
Reggie Jackson reggie white was an. AWESOME player i remember
him With The. Philadelphia eagles obviously With The Green. Bay packers.
Terrific player i'd Rather Have reggie. Jackson's, Career yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:30):
MOA's next i'm gonna go walk through the parking lot
and see what's going on. Over there, i'm like in
the third row, Over man i'm gonna go check. That,
Out meanwhile mogger's next from practice and HE had onbd fifteen.
To thirty the woman.

Speaker 4 (02:07:48):
Didn't want to make eye contact.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
With me he did the, GUY though i was proud.
Of it