Cincy 360 w/ Tony Pike & Austin Elmore -- 9/10/25

Tony and Austin preview Bengals/Jags, discuss the Reds playoff chances, check in with Dan Hoard and Mo Egger, and more on ESPN 1530!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good afternoon, Welcome minute's the latest edition of Cincy three
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It's also a big day Austin at Skyline because the
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(00:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Shout out to Skyline for saying Mike Gasicki and not
Mike Gaseki. Shout out to Skyline Chili. I love it.
Are we allowed to talk about the other thing we
got today?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, why would they send it to us if
we couldn't talk about it? Yeah, I guess that's true.
Skyline's coming out with a chicken chili. Really, yes, really,
Now I don't know all the details. We'll get we'll
get the get you the details.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I'm at Skyline Chili dot com and the homepage
says new chicken chili bang, same legendary taste, new protein option.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
So they got the participating locations up, they got that
going on, They got the bobbleheads going on, and really, Austin,
look at you can't really just get one bobblehead. They're
smart with how they did it because each bobblehead has
a letter on the bottom and they connect together. So
the Joe Burrow bobblehead head, the w MI Kasiki has
the H. Next week Jamar Chase will have the O. Right,

(01:51):
that's who, and then the day right. They're smart, d
e y, they know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
According to the Skyline website, a Skyline chicken chili, cheese,
coney twenty three grams of protein. How about that? What
about if you got a regular three way oh sixty
grams of protein? Getting that protein?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
It I ain't too bad now, begging now.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
For those that are wondering, Yes, you can still get
the original chili. That's never gonna change. It's just another
protein option, yeah, for people to go for.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I saw a tweet recently that said, did anybody ask
protein if it wants to be in all these things?
Protein's everywhere? Yet what about the protein? It's all over
the place? What about the protein? I like protein? Good question.
Have you had clear protein?

Speaker 5 (02:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So it's it's basically like this has become a big
thing where you know you typically you think of a
protein shake or powder and it's real like kind of
a thick powdery substance. But this clear protein is a
thin powdery but when you put it into water, you
can't see it and it tastes like water or whatever.
So I had been trying this protein. That's like it

(03:04):
was watermelon flavored. Okakay, So you throw it in you
got some ice thoughts of protein powder, blah blah blah,
shake it up, drink it. It tastes like a juice.
It tastes like a can of pop whatever, like watermelon flavored.
It's like a Willy wonkin. It was like forty grams
of protein per serving.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
It was like no calories hardly at all.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Wow, these are the good parts of science. We love science.
When's the last time you had a protein shake, I
not long ago. Have you lost weight recently?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I can think. I could note, I could tell, ye, yeah,
I'm losing some lbs. I could tell what have you
been doing? What's your secret? Not being such a degenerate
with how I eat and drink? I will say your
door dash orders almost have stopped completely. Yeah, yeah, and
I give you a lot of kudos for that.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
If I eat downstairs, it's usually like a chicken and
cheese case of dia, some grilled chicken right, something along
those lines. I think I'm just, yeah, just not eating
as bad.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You're being careful in what you select. Yeah, now, must
like the New York Jets who carefully just selected Isaiah
Williams off the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Practice, Well, they they dropped one of their receivers. They
dropped exavier gifts. He fumbled a punt, Yeah, he fumbled
the bag.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
This dude won a game for them two years ago
on a punt return to touches matter and you fumble
the bag, You're out. Yep. You get the bag and
fumble it. I get the bag and flip it and
tumble it.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's a lyric for you. Right, We're gonna do our
best over there.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Is this this shot?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is it gonna be this type of show today?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Might be because we're gonna do our best over the
next three hours to get you as much sports information
as possible. That's what we always do. Zach Taylor speaks
to the media. At one o'clock, we'll play that. We'll
just talk Dan Hoarde, Yes, the Hall of Fame voice
of the Bearcats, the voice of the Bengals. He's gonna
join us at two o'clock. We'll pick his brain about

(05:01):
the Bengals. We'll pick his brain about the Bearcats as well.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I have a question for you. I'm gonna rip off
the Dan Patrick show. Okay, I just saw they posted
this on Twitter, and I just want to we don't
have to turn this into a discussion discussion, but I just
want to know from you. Would you rather hit sixty
homers or hit four hundred in a season?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Sixty homers?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, me too, yep. Right by the way, Couching Ober
hit number fifty lastek fitty last night for Shorbo. Do
all the Reds combined have fifty? Uh?

Speaker 7 (05:30):
Just over it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Steer de la Cruz and Hayes, the Big Bank all
have combined for forty nine nice. If I'm not mistaken nice.
I know Mode did a deep dive into that last
night at one point, so I have to go find it.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Speaking of Major League Baseball, Austin, somehow, some way, the
Reds are three back in the wild card. Now the
Giants are two back in the wild card, so that
it's a little bit different because you're now chasing another team.
But somehow, some way, this team just stays in arms
reach away, never to really get the wild card, but
never to be completely out of it, just to dangle

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it out there enough. That's what the Reds are doing.
They won last night. How about this, Austin south Stewart
hit a homer in the first inn and they moved
him to number two in the lineup. Would have been
nice over the last couple months to maybe have south
Stewart's bat in the lineup. Yep, Will Benson, it doesn't
feel like has started for months.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I believe he started, Charlie said. The last time Will
Benson started a game was August first, and in that
game he basically won the game for the Reds. Yeah,
he kind of did the same thing last night.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Unbelievable playing the field last night and then Homer's last
night as well. The game was too too late. Tyler
Stevenson hit a two run home run. Reds win, Mets lose.
The Giants did win, so the Reds are three games
back in the Wildcard. The Giants are two games back
in the wild Card, and as we've talked about before,
the Giants do hold the season tiebreaker over the Cincinnati Reds.

(06:54):
We'll look ahead a little bit of what's coming up
for the Reds as we go. Speaking of things that
are coming up, did you see Xavier release their December
Big East schedule?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I did see this. There are a lot of people
a little unhappy about this, as they should be. Xavier
is going to play some of their high end Big
East opponents in December while students aren't even in class.
What do we make of this? I think it sucks. Yeah,

(07:25):
who's is it? Anyone's fault?

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Dell?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm sure it's probably the Big East fault. That'd be
my guess, But I don't know that. I don't really know.
I don't know who understand fully, like like conference schedules.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Into all of that.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, they're going to play on December seventeenth, Creighton, on
the twentieth, they're at Georgetown, and on the thirty first that.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
They have Yukon come into town.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And surely not all those schools are on the same
academic character, right, Sure, So just that's a that's a
tough December schedule after a non conference. It's especially difficult
for Xavier, being as much of a commuter school as
it is. That's kind of a unique problem for Xavier
as compared to some of the other schools in the
Big East. Not every school in the Big East, but yeah,

(08:09):
what else is happening? Jalen Carter, he served essentially his
game suspension by not playing in the Dallas game.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
According to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, I mean not a second went off the clock
before he was he left, so his ejection served as
a suspension.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
He's not going to be missing any future games now.
There's obviously a fine that goes into play here fifty
seventh game, that game one check fifty seven thousand. But
he is available this week, that is the.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Super Bowl rematch between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas
City Chiefs. They did say, and by they, I mean
the top NFL reporters and insiders that there is some
significance behind this because it kind of sets the precedent.
Yeah that the NFL, if you spit on somebody's going
to suspend you.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
For a game.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Surely we don't have to set a precedent about spitting
on people. Well, you never know, you know, I mean
it happens. It's happened more, I get it. I mean
it happened in college football over the weekend at Florida
Pacvan Jones does that to people sometimes. Oh man, how
about college football? What do you think of what's going
on with the shoe on Saturday when they're going to
try to do the helmet stripe. I think that's a
good idea on this shoe. He's a good idea. Now,

(09:19):
Like what do they have, Like the sides of the
stadium are all supposed to wear gray and then like
the student section. I don't even think side sections are
white and then red in the middle. I don't think
they have to wear gray on the other decks. I
think it's just no.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I saw gray all around. I don't know if that's true.
What do you make about that? Uh? Cool?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
When things are done right like that? Ohio state for
a night game. If you've never been as cool as hell,
it's really really cool, and this just kind of adds
to that. Yeah, but you're right, I see it on
there where Gray. I didn't think they were making him
wear gray on the sides, but yeah they are.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's cool if you can do stuff like that, right,
it's awesome. Like when they stripe the Jungle. Yeah, and
everyone follows along. It's sweet, but you got to have
everyone on board. I do think it's tough. Like I
still don't understand why the Bengals chose the Lions for
the Stripe the Jungle game this year because Lions fans, well,
they travel really really well. There's gonna be a lot

(10:16):
of Honolulu blue, which directly clashes and you know, like
last year they did Bengals Browns. Okay, you can hide
some Browns fans in the stands, Yeah, even though there
may not be that many of them, you can hide
them in the stands with their orange at least.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
But we'll see how it goes. I hope the Buck
guys do well. Speak to college football. What do you
make of this? This woman that's just getting crushed about
her AP ballot? Yeah, not a great look for her.
I don't think Hailey Sawyer.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, is she essentially just saying that, you know, the
voting is fun and people should should chill out a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Uh, you just want to hear from her, Can we
hear this? Here's what she said. Yeah, so, people, by
the way, were criticizing her AP ballot and this is
her response.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
But as far as what my votes are and what
my process is, you know, I wake up early in
the morning after covering a game late in the night before.
Don't want to go too much into my progress or
process or logic. But I will say I appreciate everybody's
interaction on social media and all of your feedback. You know,

(11:22):
there's tons of people that vote on the AP pole
and like it's not a perfect system, but at the
end of the day, like no matter who you pick,
it does even out because there's so many people who vote,
and like I said, it's really fun for discussion. It
doesn't you know, probably matter in the end, but I'm
glad that people are having a really good time with you.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, let's just have fun with it.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
So the reason that this came up, she was doing
this interview on a zoom but in her AP pole,
she moved Florida up two spots to number fourteen. Yes,
and the team that beat them, USF, remains unranked. Yeah, us,
how does that make any sense?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
USF, who, by the way, beat a top twenty five
Boise in week one and then went to the swamp
and just beat Florida, and somehow Florida goes up south
Florida doesn't get ranked. Yeah, And the response like, well,
you know, as long as everyone's having fun, let's just
keep the voting fun. Yeah, which to a point like
the ratings really don't matter at this point.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well, it is interesting because everybody has a different way
of doing their AP ballot. Like there's a guy Chad
Bishop who his affiliation is with Georgia Tech, if I'm
not mistaken, and the way he does it, for my understanding,
is truly on a week to week basis. So like
the other last week he had Notre Dame unranked and

(12:47):
then they didn't play and he moved him to number eight.
I don't understand that entirely. He also dropped Old Miss
from number nineteen to unranked after they won at Kentucky
if they didn't cover and Lane Kiffin knew it, So
maybe it has to do with gambling.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh the way, what do we mean with Lane Kiff
and when he when he apologized to the gamblers for
not covering the spread at the end of the game.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't like that he said that. Yeah, And I
don't like that he said that.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Like that to me that that almost crosses a little
bit of a line. But it is if you're that
aware of things, that's what you're thinking about so prevalent
that it's like it's everywhere. Well, you know, they hear
about it. If they don't come, like social media wise,
they're going to hear about it. Yeah, exactly. He's just
kind of out there like, hey, by the way, I apologize.

(13:32):
I just don't know if it's a good look for
a college football coach to be like, yeah, we knew
what the spread was.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Do you know how many AP ballots have LSU at
number one.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know, because I think, yeah, they they just
didn't play as well this last week.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
One of them is Rhys Davis. Well, they didn't play
as well this week. And if you look at Clemson,
who was down what seventeen to three or seventeen six
at a half against Troy, maybe you overvalue Clemson a
little bit and that changes the week one feel LSU
kind of stumbled a little bit weak. Two Now their
schedule picks up as well. But yeah, I'm a little
shocked by two. How do you feel about LSU at

(14:14):
number two? They haven't necessarily been excuse me, Penn State
at number two? Penn State because they haven't necessarily been
dominant Penn State.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I just don't understand, because when you get ranked that
high to start the year, what's going to knock you down? Like,
they're not going to lose to Nevada, They're not going
to lose to FIU, They're not going to lose to
Villanova this week. Now after that they do host Oregon,
which Oregan's number four right now.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I found out about forty eight hours ago Villanova had
a football team. Yeah, I didn't even know that, Jay Wright,
I think as their coach came to the football side,
Robert Sesna, Oh not the aircraft. Not the aircraft. Robert
Sesna has Oregon at number one? Your thoughts? No, No, Now,
they did completely obliterate Mike Gundy and Oklahoma State, which,

(15:05):
by the way, what a fall that program's had. Oklahoma
State and they used to be a perennial top twenty
team under Mike Gundy, right at least in the top
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I think they were.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Always unless but they never really want anything, no, but
they always were kind of hanging around. It's interesting look
to me.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
And we've talked about like, at what point of the
year do you think the the rankings really matter.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Like October? Yeah, once you get into conference play. I'll
be honest, I'm two weeks into UC season. I don't
know who they are yet, and I don't know if
they know full And I think there's a lot of
teams like that right now because of how different the
game is and how different the off seasons and roster
construction is. I don't know how you for sure know
much about any team right now. What do you think

(15:57):
about abolishing preseason rankings, Well, the Big Gum did that,
waiting until like October first to put out rankings.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I still like the preseason because it gives you a
little bit more bulletin board stuff when it comes to
those early season matchups. Okay, I'd be good with it,
but I mean I don't think that it carries much
weight for me. I have to ask is bulletin board?
Is that overblown?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I mean, how often was Brian Kelly or anyone else
that you played for at Cincinnati or in the National
Football League saying here's what so and so said about us.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Not really what they said, but like two thousand and eight,
we were picked I think next to last in the
Big East. Okay, so you can use that like no
one believes in you, no one thinks you can do anything,
prove them wrong type mentality. And then at nine, after
we won it, no. Eight and brought so much back.
I think we were picked third preseason, so that was okay,
and Rutgers was picked ahead of us. So for a
lot of our training camp we knew we opened the

(16:54):
season at Rutgers on a Monday. Was on Monday, Labor Day,
standalone game, the birthplace of college football. Really yeah, our
chance to be like, hey, we're better than than number three.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
How'd you do in that game?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Crossed him.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, I mean how do you personally do? It's pretty good?
How many picks? One pick?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
It was on a screen pass that we were throwing
to Isaiah Pete and the guy like made a one
handed leaping interception, was falling down Was it one of
the uh McCarty brothers. No, no, no, it was a
great interception. My I mean we we got your telling me,
guy just made a play.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Made a play. We smoked him. I mean it was
it was a beat down in rock, but it was
the beatdown in Piscataway. I think they still call it.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Was it forty four to something? Yeah, it was never close.
I got it right here. Forty seven fifteen Yeah. Wow,
I think Travis Kelcey found the end zone in that game.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Let me twice.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Travis Kelcey caught three passes or no, he carried the
ball three times. He was our wildcard quarterback. Eighteen yards
and two touchdown, two tutters, yeah, two tutters.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Uh, youth, you were you want to guess I have,
I wouldn't. I wouldn't even be able to tell you.
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You were twenty seven for thirty four three and sixty
two yards, three touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It was the hell of a pick.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
The interception was by Alex Silvestro. Oh. Alex Silvestro went
on to play in the National Football League yep, based
on that play probably got him drafted with the Patriots
for one season.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
You may have won Super Bowl. Actually we beat them down.
That was fun, fun time. Mohammed Sanu went nuts the
next game for one hundred and one yards. Yep, not enough.
Now you remember who the quarterback was for Rutgers. Oh,
my gosh, they had one. They used three quarterbacks on
the day. Yeah, I'm gonna know it as soon as

(18:51):
you say it. He played in the NFL for a
little while. Yeah, it was Tom Savage. Yep, Tom Savage
fifteen to twenty three, buck thirty five having a touch
But this guy Dominic Natalie was Natalie Natalie. He was
eight for twelve, one hundred and eight yards, no touchdowns,
three picks, and then some dude named Jabu Lovelace was

(19:12):
oh for two and not good for him. Aaron Webster,
Demetrius Jones and JK.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Schaeffer.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Wonder what he's doing all intercepted passes. You also forgot
about the uh one of my other stats in that
game that was I think I believe a sixteen fifteen
sixteen yard rush. Uh, it does have here you had
two carries for seven yards with the long of sixteen.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Because of course, the sacks, yep, sacks always get you yeah,
you were sacked. I don't see if I don't, I
don't see it on here a little trip down memory lane. Man,
how about that. We used to do this a lot,
and it's not in a while. It's good. We needed
a segment like that. You completed passes to everybody that well.
Zach Khalaris was two for two. Yeah, we spread it around.
Kolaris did have a better QBR than you and the game, yeah,

(19:58):
and his average was higher probab though in completion he wasn't.
He was two for two. Yeah, But receptions in the
game by Marty Gilliard, d J. Woods, Isaiah Pede, Ben Goodooley,
Jamar Howard armand Ben's, Jacob Ramsey, Kazim Ali, Yeah, Adrian
Robinson and Darren Williams. That's about right. Run it all
over them. Jake Rodgers was one for one running all

(20:20):
over them cats from the field and six for six
and extra points yep, also punted.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Those statistics could have been even more skewed had Travis
Kelcey not stolen two red zone wildcat quarterback touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
So there's that mule's to say about you that they
have to put in a wildcat quarterback first.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Game of the Year. We were trying to show as
much as we could first game of the year. Obviously
he didn't show.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Locke is at a seventeen yard or sixteen yard rush,
second longest of the game by any running back.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So here's that. We'll take a break on that a
little bit. Breaks since three six thanks to Skyline Chile.
We'll get back to some Bengals football when we come back.
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Speaker 9 (21:01):
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Speaker 2 (21:16):
Welcome back since he three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili.
Football in the Natti. Real quick peek ahead to Sunday,
where it's gonna be warm.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Austin gonna be hot out there.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Almost ninety degrees on Sunday the Jungle. The Jungle will
be rock and of course the Bengals are wearing orange.
The Bengals right now three and a half point favorites
against Jacksonville. Do you have a minute to spare? I do,
because the Bengals just released a hype video. Okay, and

(21:48):
normally why would I play a hype video over the air?
But the audio is powerful. Oh have you heard this?
I've had heard this.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, I'm gonna place this fifty nine seconds long. All right,
take a list of going into the jungle?

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Do you hear that?

Speaker 10 (22:08):
Come on, we're home. Welcome to the jungle where survival
means Descenday, are you the hunter or are you the prey?

Speaker 11 (22:30):
This is no.

Speaker 10 (22:31):
Sanctuary, no mercy, no forgiveness, no escape. It's a battlefield
draped in orange.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Jungle.

Speaker 10 (22:48):
Bengals don't usually hunt jaguars, but if they're hungry enough.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I'll tell you what jungle draped in orange? A battlefield
draped in orange. That made the hair on the back
of my next stand up.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I want to go be the twelfth Man. After hearing that, Wow,
A Bengal doesn't normally hunt a jaguar, but if it's
hungry enough, and the visual is of a Bengal tiger lipping,
licking his chops, and you hear the that was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
That was sick. That's good.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
That might have been the best type video the Bengals
have ever dropped. And you know the visuals of Trevor
Lawrence in their previous matchup.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I like it. That's awesome. I like it.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I'm fired up now. Walls not bubbles. I mean, I'm lucky.
I got the door open.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
The Bengals are right now installed as a three and
a half point favorite against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
We'll talk a little bit that mine hasn't moved opened
their stay there. We'll talk a little bit with the
the Jaguars, with Dan Horde when we talked to him
at two o'clock this afternoon. I'm sure you'll hear Zach
Taylor and his comments coming out of the Browns game
and ahead of the Jacksonville game. But I think what

(24:15):
stands out the most is Travis Etn who ran for
one hundred and forty three yards. Yeah, and as we
were talking yesterday, by shoul touton they traded Tank Bigsby
to the Eagles, and part of the reason for that
was because they're big believers in By should Teuton, By
should Teuton? Okay, so we'll see if he gets involved.

(24:37):
The Jags already earlier today promoted a running back from
their practice squad to their active roster, obviously for depth reasons.
But let's keep an eye out for Jags and their
injury report and all that. But curious to see what
Dan thinks, what stands out to Dan as he gets ready.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Brian Thomas Junior had seven targets, but only caught one
of them.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I would assume that the game plan for the Angles
and the Jags is gonna be similar. Give the ball
to our LSU wide receiver yep early.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And like often. Travis Hunter led them in targets with eight.
Did not play much on the defensive side of the ball,
but he was targeted eight times. He caught six of them,
albeit for just thirty three yards. There is a player
for them that a lot of folks are high on,
and it's Breton Strange.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
To say, this guy scares me a little bit. Four catches,
fifty nine yards. He caught all four of his targets.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But I was reading like and doing some fantasy football drafts, like, hey,
these are guys to target in late rounds. Breton Strange
was on every list that I read, and they picked
up right there with Trevor Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence only
threw for a bucks seventy eight. He did through an interception,
but again, fifty nine of those yards went to their

(25:52):
tight end, Breton Strange.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, I've been watching it. I actually have the game
on in here right now, their game against Carolina, and
it's just one of those guys where you're like, who
is that? Yeah, and you go and look, Okay, this
guy makes a lot of sense why he's there, and
they use him out in space to block as well
set up for some some stuff for Travis Hunter. So
gonna be uh an interesting matchup because it always seems

(26:15):
like the Bengals can't cover tight ends, and tight ends
were a huge, huge part of Cleveland's plan last week.
Harold Fannin got involved, David and Joku got involved. Always
been an issue.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
How how many defenders for the Jacksonville Jaguars can you name?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I know Josh heinz Allen.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, he he had one quarterback kid and that was
the only stat he registered on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Really, yes, interesting, I know they have a cornerback. Jordan
Lewis used to play for the Cowboys. Yes, I think
he's a Michigan guy. Three passes defended on Sunday Jordan Lewis. Yeah, okay,
all right, And I have a guy that I can
never pronounce his name. It's like Alutakun or a lutacan.
Foyesod a little okay. Ten tackles and then they got

(27:02):
a number one overall pick, Trayvon Walker. Yeah, did not
do much. Had two total tackles in the game. What
about Eric Armstead, Yeah, the Walter Payton Man of the Year,
Emmanuel Ogba. Oh the East been around a while. Yeah,
but don't they have that dude they just traded from Saints.
Kaylin Sanders, big fella. Yeah, it's like nine hundred pounds.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah. You and I, I mean we talked about this
when we saw each other, and you asked me how
many offensive linemen for the Jaguars could I name? Yeah?
Not many.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
There's not a ton of big names on their defense.
But they did hold the Carolina Panthers to ten points.
And say what you want about Carolina. I thought Bryce
Young was playing good football at the end of last year,
and they held him to about fifty percent passing and
intercepted him twice.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
And only sacked Bryce Young once, which I think is
interesting considering that Carolina was playing from behind yeah the
entire game, and he dropped back to pass thirty five times. Yep,
and actually you could go forty considering the fact that
he ran the ball five times. Yeah, so only one
set back on thirty five to forty dropbacks. That could

(28:03):
be good news.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, we will dive into this matchup much more as
the week goes on. We'll talk to Dan Horde about
it today. You'll hear Zach Taylor talk about it as well.
But right now again bangles three and a half point
favorites Sunday and their home opener, uh in the jungle
draped in orange, as we heard at the start of

(28:25):
that segment, pretty sick five one three seven five one
three seven four nine fifteen thirty.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
But you're flustered, Yeah, phone lines are open. We'll get
buy a ticket. Aren't you get some phone? We'll get
some phone calls when we get back. I'm un try
I get with the ticket office.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
I got.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
If I got a ticket for you and me, would
you go with me?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, I know No. You didn't even come to my
birthday at the ballpark dition. Some weekends I would, But
this weekend is a this is this weekend's a disaster.
It's only Wednesday. You don't even know that yet.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, I know that we have I have UC Saturday
and doing the sideline, and then we have a seven
thirty wedding Saturday night, Oh boy, and then at the
Grail Sunday morning for a pregame.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Show with's great. You're already gonna be Jady brew So
just a lot a lot of time. Disaster, Yeah, well
disaster when it comes to being around the family.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Need to be around the family more. We'll be back
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Speaker 12 (29:36):
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Speaker 3 (29:54):
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Speaker 2 (29:56):
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Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's Mike ASICKI today. If you could ask Zach Taylor
one question during his press conference today, what would you
ask why is it taking so long to get the
plays in?

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I was kind of wondering the same thing. Can I
saw you posted the video?

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
At Tony underscore Pike fifteen, I feel like, especially against
like I'm thinking ahead to Brian Floores next week, especially
against Brian Floores, Joe needs to get to the line
of scrimmage and see what's going on.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
You can't be doing that, like if snapping the ball,
clapping to get it out and moving guys.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Around if you haven't seen it yet. I did post
a video today and all I did I took a
play from Sunday's game with the Bengals, and then I
picked a play. And you could pick a lot of
different quarterbacks who are really good at the line of
scrimmag but Rogers being where he's at an age, he's
so smart at the line of scrimmage, and the two plays,
it's very easily depicted. Joe Burrow is trying to change

(31:09):
a play because the look that Cleveland is showing is
not going to help the play they're running. They were
originally line up under center, so he changes the play
and he walks back in the shotgun and Austin as
soon as he gets in the shotgun he has to
start clapping because there's like three on the play clock,
three two, and the ball snapped and he didn't even
have a chance to read things out. The other clip

(31:29):
that's posted with it shows Aaron Rodgers, with about fifteen
to eighteen seconds at the line of scrimmage, gets up there,
moves the back, changes the protection, moves the back again,
gives a fake snap count, analyzes what the defense is doing,
and much like Joe Burrow, who's so good at the
line and understanding the mental of the game, if you

(31:51):
give your quarterback that much time, they're going to know
where to go with the ball. And I believe Joe
Burrow made the wrong read. He had jamar Cha wide open,
would have been a first down, I'm probably more. Instead,
he tried to fit the ball into Micasicki and I
think they even met a comment on the broadcast about
you know, why was Joe reading that side? I don't
think he had time to read everything because the plays

(32:13):
were coming in so late. You saw the frustration when
he was taking the timeouts, and then you flip it
around and you watch a clip of Aaron Rodgers get
fifteen seconds to operate. Defense doesn't have a chance. I mean,
it's just it's night and day. They have got to
do a better job. And my question would be why
does it at times take long to get the plays in.

(32:35):
I believe the one was coming off the thirty minute
drive right the second drive in the game.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
They took a time out to start the drive. Yeah,
something like that. Reading here from Charlie Goldsmith, they're talking
to Dan Pitcher right now. When asked about the timeouts,
Pitcher spoke about wanting to get in as comfortable looks
as you can be versus Miles Garrett. Timeouts were used appropriately,

(33:01):
but obviously you'd rather be able to save those. So
I think the point they're trying to make is play
call has to get in quicker so that you can
adjust to where Miles Garrett is at at the line
of scrimmage and go from there. Either way, whether Miles
Garrett's on the other side or not, the play call

(33:22):
needs to get in quicker, just for in general setting
up the offense and getting a look at the defense. Correct, Yeah, correct,
And I wonder like, if you're Zach Taylor, how do
you like is there what do you do to make
that a point of emphasis?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
How can you I think you could do it at practice?
You would think you could just try it practice to
get things going quicker. And obviously being at home is
going to help you a little bit. But even that, like,
get the play in and then let Joe do the rest.
He's in his six year right, correct, We talked all
the time about how he's seen everything. Let him go
do the rest, get the play in and trust that

(33:57):
he can get it done at the line of scrimmage.
And I think you could, like you could practice situations
at practice Austin, you could run team drills and instead
of starting to play like you could start at the
playcock at like eighteen, right, and just make sure it
make it feel rushed, and then by the time you
get into the game, all of a sudden it feels
a little bit more calm.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I don't know, but to me, that's got to get better.
Let's take a phone call. We've got John calling in
right now.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
What's up John, Good afternoon, Fellas.

Speaker 13 (34:27):
Pretty much what we talked about yesterday right when we
were talking about the play calls coming in too late,
and that Joe and Aaron Rodgers are the two best
pre snap and as far as processing, so it's got
to get the play in quicker. But I also have
to think you have to have a mindset. I don't
let the pursuit of perfection be the enemy of good.
Like if you're trying to get into the perfect play
from the sideline or with the line of scrimmage, sometimes

(34:50):
you're just wasting a lot of time and not getting
a lot done. So getting that call in earlier gives
Joe Burrow ample time to read the defense which he's
attack they're at. You're taking away one of his best weapons.
So I think that's something that will get better as
the season goes on. I would think if it doesn't,
then it is an issue.

Speaker 14 (35:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I feel like there's been frustration in the past from
Joe Burrow when the play's not coming in quick enough.
I just I don't think you have to protect him
as much. If you're Zach Taylor, you have to trust
that Joe is one of the smartest quarterbacks in the NFL,
and as a play caller. The more time you give
him to operate at the line of scrimmage, the better

(35:31):
the opportunity you're going to have to have a successful play,
whether that's run or pass. The longer Joe has to
assess everything, it's going to be a lot easier going
forward to have success on those plays.

Speaker 13 (35:42):
Absolutely, and that's why the scripted plays work so well,
because they're already into the play sheet. They're already scripted
so that the offense knows what plays are going to
come in the first fifteen plays. I also wanted to
be a little light hided today Wednesday hump Day, so
we're kind of done with the first game and all
see tomorrow and Priday. You guys will preview the next game.
I remember about a month and a half ago. I

(36:04):
promise you guys, if Joe Burrow wins the MVP, since
I have some good tickets up at the casino in
New Hampshire, that I would send you some really good
Italian food ball. I've got other tickets as well. This
is going to be even a better offer, I promise.
I've got the Bengals winning the AFC winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
A great ticket is they win.

Speaker 13 (36:22):
The Super Bowl and he's League MVP, which I think
could happened. And another great ticket is Bengals, Trackers, Bengals,
Ram super Bowl. If we hit some of those, the
heck With's sending you guys food will fly out here
to take.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm in.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm in on that. Look if the Bengals, Tony would
love to, but he's gonna have a disaster of a weekend,
so he's not going to be available.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
If the Bengals are competing for the Super Bowl. Joe
Burrow's an MVP exactly that that's.

Speaker 13 (36:50):
The first one, and then get that one out of
the way and hopefully the tentacles of that will reach into.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
A lot of winnings.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
But we wouldn't do it till the spring because this
is a horrible place to be in the winter.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I mean, you guys don't have great witness.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, probably couldn't even fly in there.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
That probably gonna happen.

Speaker 13 (37:06):
They might be eighteen inches of snow on the ground
when you guys decided to come.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
But that sounds awesome and it comes true, John, I
love it, man, Thank you so much for the phone call.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Thanks man, that sounds awesome. I can mess with some
Italian food.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I can mess with some Italian I could mess for
some cold weather, some snow, all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Now I believe. I believe. My senior year, Big East
Media Day was in like Providence, Rhode Island, and they
did like a big lobster boil. That was just my nightmare,
Oh my gosh, because there's just cameras and they're film
and everything, and you gotta act like you like it.
I could. I could have won an Academy Award for

(37:49):
my performance that day.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
That lobster has to be, like, there's a very specific
way that I like lobster. Well mine, the only reason
I got it down was a lot of butter. All right,
Butter is a big part of it. Yep, you get
one lobster roll, like the role specific, you know, the
way that works.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I can't wait, though, to go back to Maine. I
say it all the time, which makes me think about
the weather to circle back. I hate that we do
this every years, three or four days where it's like
perfect fifty to sixty two degrees if that, and it's
just perfect yep, and there's not a cloud in the sky.
And then I think, starting tomorrow we're flirting with ninety

(38:31):
again for a week. I don't want to do that.
I hate that. I'm done with the hot weather. Oh
my gosh, it drives me. No, I'm with you as
a fat person. I really don't like the hot weather.
I hate the warm weather. First team all sweat over this.
If I've said this before, what the Friday night opener?
I had the iPad, went back, sat by a fire

(38:53):
and was watching the Chiefs and the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
It couldn't have been a more perfect night.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, at tempts into this sixties fire feels good. You
don't have to worry about bugs and mosquitoes biting you
when you're outside.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I need more of that. Yeah, less of whatever the
heck we got going on this weekend. We'll take a break.
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number one.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
What's going on? Mike?

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Hey, what's going on? Fellas?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
This is it? How you doing good? How are you?
This is here?

Speaker 6 (41:46):
I'm hanging. I don't like them orange uniforms, you guys do.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I don't like them.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
I think they're a little overdone, a little too much orange.
It's for me. I mean orange, and I don't have
a problem with orange, but man, that's a lot of
orange in my opinion. But I like the white uniflor.
I really like those white uniforms. I really do.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I couldn't do it every week. But when they when
they sprinkle it in in variation, I don't mind the
the the differences.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Yeah, no, I typically don't. It's just that I didn't.
I don't remember watching them. I'm sure I having that
all orange. It's just like overwhelms the people. But anyway,
you were talking about that that ad that they did
for the upcoming game between the Bengals and the Jaguars,

(42:33):
and it's funny because tigers can't climb trees worth a craft.
But jaguars, Jaguars live in the trees, okay, and they're
a big cat. And I'm telling you, a jaguar can
jump on the back of a tiger and rip his
throat out before he even knows what the hell happened.
Jaguars are powerful, and they're very camouflaged up in those trees.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
And I'm telling you, man, it ain't no joke.

Speaker 15 (42:59):
So the.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Video, while aesthetically pleasing, may not be as accurate as
we hoped.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
No, it's not. It's not.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
It's not accurate from a true nature standpoint though. If
you're watching up Jack Hannah. But I'm taking I'm taking
Jacksonville plus the three and a half. I hope the
Bengals win, but I think Jacksonville just kind of gives
them all they want.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
This is a it's a big game for the Bengals.
It's a big game for Austin. To Mike, because Austin
has has been on the Jaguars for a long time.
This offseason, he circled this game as a test for
the Bengals. I believe some in some Austin, you even
picked the Jaguars in this, but you've been on the
Jags for a while.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, I think the Jags are good. I think they're
a bad matchup for the Bengals defense specifically. I have
a lot of faith in their offense and Liam Cohn.
I think it's gonna be a dog fight for the Bengals.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, Cole is a colem really is af But he
talked about a schemer. That guy's a schemer because he
did a great job at Tampa, a great.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Job for Baker.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
He kind of made Baker really well. I wandering around
from team the team to finding a home in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
And watching him in Tampa, I think he really he
did a really good job of understanding what the defense
was attempting to take away and then highlighting the other stuff.
There would be games again, they ran the ball extremely
well in Week one against Carolina, but you go back
to some of those Tampa games as well. Baker could
throw it forty times or they could turn around and
hand it off to those running backs in Tampa, depending

(44:36):
on what the defense. So not only does he take
what the defense gives, but I think he can excel
at highlighting and magnifying that weakness or where they're vulnerable,
and he highlights it and he attacks it, no matter
what that be with the pass or the run.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
So I don't know if he's serving as offensive coordinator
also or if he has an OC, but if he
does have an OC, you know he's scrutinizing everything to
poor os. I'd hate to be an OC for a
guy that can scheme like that.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, I mean, whether he's called or not, I'll we'll
check he calls the place.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Okay, his offensive coordinator is a first time OC, but
he's a very highly thought of offensive coordinator, like one
of those guys, like very much like Dan Pitcher, like
was fast rising through the system.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Gotcha.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
And you know what the fastest land animal is the cheat, right.
They can run seventy miles now, guys, they can run
with your car on the freaking freeway. Born to run that,
like Bruce Springsteen said. And uh, And I think the Bengals,
the way the Bengals play fast with that past game,
I think they ought to change the name of the

(45:44):
Cincinnati Cheetahs doing.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
That in Michigan, moving on from the Wolverines or the Cheetahs.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Now, yeah, the Cheetahs yeah, they are. You look at
those guys. If you look at their haunches, their backhaunches,
you can tell they're just born to blow out. They'll
run past the Greyhound like it's standing still.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
We unlocked the special interest of yours. Didn't like, I
didn't know about this about you.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Yeah, I'm really a nature say freaky. I get into
it because it's so fascinating.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
There's someone Hey.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
I heard Mark Santez today say that he was so
impressed with Aaron Rodgers, and he went into why Tony.
He said, he looked so white on his feet that
he's finally, you know, gotten over the Achilles. But he said,
what Rogers does that you would never ever teach. Marchants
said this, but you would never teach a youngster in

(46:39):
quarterback schools like you do.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Is to throw.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
Passes with both your feet off the ground. Yeah, and
Rogers can do that and throw it like a seed,
he said, off both feet. Really that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yes, Yes, he's not one that you want to try
to emulate or practic this because he's one of a
very few that can do it like that. But he
does it at the highest level possible and it works
for him, and it creates a lot of issues for defenses,
and it definitely created issues for the Jets who could
not contain Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Mike, thanks so much, man. We appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Thank you, Mike. You got it, brother, you got your
paying attention.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Thank you, love it.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Thanks Mike. Yeah, you want a quick update on Grant Yudinsky. Oh,
it's the offensive coordinator for Jacksonville. Yeah, uh, he is
very much. What was the name I kept saying last
year about the Bengals? What coach did I keep bringing up?
Dan Pitcher? No, Justin Riscotti. He was a past game

(47:49):
coordinator with Kevin O'Connell and Minnesota and has brought a
lot of those concepts that they ran for Justin Jefferson. Well,
Grant Yudinsky for the last three years has been with
the Minnesota Vikings assistant offensive coordinator and assistant quarterbacks coach
under Kevin O'Connell. So this is part of the reason
why I'm a big believer in Jacksonville's offense.

Speaker 16 (48:10):
Now.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
It is good to get them in game two, correct
as opposed to maybe Week twelve. But I still think
they just have a lot of challenges and I hope
the Bengals prove me wrong, but I think it's gonna
be one of those high scoring games on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Any guests they did this in twenty nineteen, Any guests
which NFL mascow would have the quickest forty time? Not
the actual mascot itself, but the animal they're named after.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
So it's has It's definitely an animal, like it's not
one of the mythical creatures like a giant. Right, fastest
forty time?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Why am I blanking on some of these right now?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
You're wrong?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
It's the Atlanta falcon. Falcons I know can fly very fast. Yeah,
falcons are one. There's a certain type of falcon that
can get over one hundred miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, Seattle, Seahawkers two. Yeah, Swoop the Eagle from Philadelphia's three,
and then Hooda is four.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Interesting. Then you get the Jaguars, the Ravens, the Santhers,
and the line. So we are faster than jaguars. Yes,
we're faster, but they can climb tree. Might be in
a tree and they climb. They can't they camouflage, they
can't outrun us. That is a fantastic conversation. Maybe someone
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That is where Zach Taylor is that right now speaking
to members of the media.

Speaker 17 (50:12):
Whether Bee movies on IR, was there a hosibility come
back before then or.

Speaker 14 (50:16):
It sounds like it's going to ride that time, friend,
So we'll just put them on IR and then.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
Get from there.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
So not gonna be season ending, you would imagine.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
O Kilie William Cohen last year. He now has a
shot Jacksonville. Just your thoughts on what they did in
week one?

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (50:31):
Good, I mean getting that first win. I mean sometimes
they make you wait till December to get that. So
you know, for Liam being to clear it out is good,
you know, for for their well being. But you know,
now it's our opponent, so we're focused on I'm making
them un happy this week.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
What is the is the background in your relationship with Liam?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
When did you first meet?

Speaker 14 (50:51):
I was first, I was aware of him before I
met him. I was at Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati. We
were getting ready to play somebody, and they're playing Maine.
The tape was Main's offense first whoever we were playing
Yukon or Temple or whoever it was, and it was
a really well coordinated offense, and so I looked up
who the coaches were and the coordinator was a guy
named Liam Cohen. Waited for national championship at UMass quarterback,

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so I could see all the trades there and past forward.
A couple of years later, I was in LA and
I was moving from assistant receivers to quarterbacks, so we
need someone to fill my job. Shane Waldron recommended a
guy that he'd worked with at UMass and Liam Cohen,
and so I jumped on that. When I heard the name,
I said, that's I don't know him, but if your

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tape your resume, he's pretty dangn good. So we interviewed him,
hired him, worked with them for a year, and then
we just stayed in touch ever since.

Speaker 17 (51:41):
How do you know if an offense is good, like,
well coordinated, I'll tape if you never like.

Speaker 14 (51:45):
Well, I mean, they know what they're doing. It's the
way they attacked the defense, the way I haven't operate.
I remember, I think Maine at the time was they
were under center, running West Coast like elements that I'd
been taught with a quarterback that was performing really well.
So you could just I mean enough for me to
look up and say, who is this?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
You know?

Speaker 14 (52:04):
And so that was the first time his name is
on my rider.

Speaker 17 (52:07):
What's the biggest message for the team, My biggest point
of emphasis I come out last week going into this week.

Speaker 14 (52:12):
For you, well, the turn of a battle number one
is so critical, you know to go too, Oh, Jacksonville,
Lee's the league right now, and in in that margin
there first, we're tied for second. So I think that's
that goes a long way and deciding these early season
games is the discipline aspect of all this stuff and
works outed to be at home, I mean, I mean
to be one to know and come home and I
know our fans are juiced up, and so I know

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these guys. That's going to be a big part of
this game too, is using the home field advantage to
our our advantage.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
There.

Speaker 17 (52:40):
What's Burrow like after a week where maybe the offense
isn't as good as y'all want it to be.

Speaker 14 (52:44):
What's you like in the week leading up to the
next game. He's focused on winning, you know, And so
I think for all of us to get that first
win knowing, knowing how things have gone previously.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Imagine you could edit your podcast just like a dog.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
That's what we get, you know, that's YouTube for you.

Speaker 14 (52:59):
Yeah, we get added a podcast in the second half
there to be able to put more points on the
board to help our team. And and so I think
none of us.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Run from that.

Speaker 14 (53:09):
What's it like preparing Travis Hunter? I mean, he's a
he's a really good talent.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
You know, He's.

Speaker 14 (53:17):
Didn't play a ton on defense, played mostly on offense.
He's got great quickness. You know, I think he's got
really top matched hands in terms of the balls he's
able to catch, not easy to bring down. You can
see the breakaway elements to him. He almost almost kind
of got away with one in the last game where
you can see he's got that element to break it

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away and make it a big play. And you saw
that on a state from Colorado. So a guy with
a lot of confidence. He always felt the confidence to
be able to play two positions. And they'll keep I'm
sure integrating him.

Speaker 18 (53:48):
However, they want to out about Cam on Monday, and
he said that there. Cam was the first guy to
come up to him and say he'd like to have
some of those things back. Is what you saw from
Cam and training camp in terms of the things that
he wanted him to get better at. Did you see
that consistently enough? So the things that didn't go right
against the grounds, you don't feel like it will spye, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
I did.

Speaker 14 (54:08):
I mean that now, it's just you had to prove it.
You had to prove that it's going to be consistent
during the season. But I thought came had a good
training camp and we got a lot of confidence in him.
Some of the players were not not his best plays
in the game the other day, and so again I
see better than a hears to just show us that
you're going to improve on that, and I trust.

Speaker 19 (54:26):
That he will see DJ turn improved kind of from
the first day of training camp to the end and
obviously have a compliments in a month on it.

Speaker 14 (54:32):
Always competitive, you know, he just he had a small
step back there for about a week and a half
at the end of camp, but now he's back fully
healthy and performing well and earning opportunity and again goes
out there in the fielding game and just just does
what we want him to do. And so proud of
him for the way that he responded to that and
accumulating more reps for himself and prove that he deserves.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
To be out there after a bit of a slow
start to camp.

Speaker 20 (54:54):
Do you feel like that day where he had like
twenty past breakups was kind of big for him to
get gone.

Speaker 14 (54:58):
Yeah, I mean that's that's tr Like I think now
it feels like training camp is just there for the negatives,
you know, and it's it's less about for us internally.
It's just building. It's building and got we're gonna get
exposed scheme wise, We're going to get exposed personnel wise
and as part of training camp as you get your
feet underneath you, and then the key is just getting

(55:20):
ready for the first week of the season. That's our
main goal. But it just feels like so much now
it's it's targeted towards all the bad things that are
happening when in rallity, that's part of the growth process
for everybody. So I don't some of those some of
those times are matchups. You know, when you match up
vers Tea and jamorrow, that's gonna be a tough, tough
training camp. And so A his way really probably the

(55:40):
way that DJ has just competed and and you're getting
the best version of him and that's awesome to see.
And I think all of our dbs continue to grow
from that, and training camp is good for all of us.

Speaker 21 (55:50):
One of the DB's was Jordan Battle was very noticeable
in his impact on Sunday. Is that part of the
scheme change with the new defensive coordinator or is that
just his development as I think it's a little bit
of everything. I think it's it's just the growth in
this league.

Speaker 14 (56:04):
I just saw him playing really fast as an open
field tackler, as a communicator. That's that's what I felt
from Jordan, And so the energy that we see all
the time off the field, you really felt that on
the field and I was I was happy to see
that because we're going to need that. And again, Jordan's
a guy who's got the leadership qualities and he's got

(56:25):
the point to back that up as well.

Speaker 22 (56:26):
Dam Picture was telling us sect that don't read too
much into usage in terms of turning into trends offensively.
How much do you have to keep that in mind
as a head coach that you know, I'm just going
to focus on what the game plan dictates as opposed
to trying to get guys working.

Speaker 14 (56:43):
Well, it's all of it.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
It's all.

Speaker 14 (56:46):
Every opponent we're going to face is going to be
a little bit of a different tweaked plan for us.
We have our bread and butters that we're always going
to subscribe to, but at the same time, we're going
to attack the defenses as we think is best to
attack it, and so that could be different usage for
different guys. There is a balance. We have great players
that want them to be involved, and so you're always
trying to find ways to make sure they're involved. The

(57:07):
ball might not go their way based on the coverage,
based on what gets called off the sheet, based on
a lot of different things, but you try to have
an intent to involve guys who best you can.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
What did you make the Matrius nights?

Speaker 14 (57:19):
I thought he played fast as well, you know, I
thought he thought he did in a really nice job tackling,
which is which is critical I think for a rookie
in their first real game and all the energy and
excitement that goes with that. Uh So again, I thought
that obviously there's some things I think you're going to
point to every player on our team that could do
a little bit better. But I was I was really
excited to see the element of calmness that that he

(57:42):
and a lot of the rookies played with. It seems
to really enjoys. I just think he enjoys football. I mean,
you're talking about a guy who's Mary's got kids, Like
he understands this is more than just a game, This
is a this is a way of life for him,
and he's kind of had to have that on his
shoulders every step of his career. And so you see

(58:04):
a guy that approaches his job that way, like he's
trying to feed his family. And that's that's the play
style you see when he's out there. He's genuine he
loves doing it. It feeds you know, I think the
rest of the team feeds off of that. I feed
off of that. And and so again he's doing it
for all the right reasons and you're getting his best.

Speaker 18 (58:23):
Well.

Speaker 14 (58:24):
I think he's got a tremendous arm. He can be
very accurate, he can process, he can make plays with
his feet. So Jacksonville historically has always been an explosive team.
They've always had a great speed im into it. They've
had explosive backs. And then he's back there operating the
whole thing. And so I've I've watched Jacksonville a lot
over the years, seeing seeing Trevor when he's at his best. Thought,

(58:48):
he played well in the first game, and so again
he's he's a very difficult quarterback to to play against
this league. Thought on the special team that's young case play.
There was a lot of great things that happened in
special teams. You know, I think you know, you just
take the clip of Taj's tackle on the on the

(59:08):
kickoff play. Uh, just the leverage everybody was playing with
across the board, and that's you know, DJ Ivy playing
with great leverage and Warren. There was a bunch of
guys on that clip that allowed for Tage to do
what he needed to do. But then just the pump
protection Tyson Anderson's the pp and the pump protection on
the final punt, you know, the plus fifty depend him
on the one PJ Jewels has not put a lot

(59:29):
of gunner for us to get it down there. So
just the extra point, the pats and the field goals
converting for us. There's a lot of things to like there,
and and I'm excited for those guys to continue to
improve and and really be an elmet that helps us
win games. Don yeh yep, yeah again, Yes, a lot

(59:53):
a lot to be a lot of situations that came
up for us that I thought we executed very well.
You know, the backup punt's tough when we're back in
there on the to yard line or wherever it was.
And then the game ceiling plus fifty to put it
on the one. So there was a lot of things
that I think those guys really stepped up to help us.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
When I gain you reference the home opener earlier.

Speaker 14 (01:00:10):
What are you looking for from Bengals fans. Yeah, here's
exactly what I'm looking for. I know how loud we're
going to be, and so let's do it early. Let's
show them right out the gate. I think when Sam
Hubbard is up there as the ruler of the jungle,
every seat is packed, and I'd love to look up
just for I'm just asking for one game, a ten
minute sacrifice from the parking lot, and so that that

(01:00:31):
might just mean getting up ten minutes, ten minutes earlier
and getting to the stadium ten minutes earlier than you
normally would, and so do whatever you want of those
extra ten and then that extra ten getting in the stadium.
And so when when Sam's the ruler, I'm kind of
looking up at that escalator that's to my right, and
it's it's like, you know, and maybe people just appease
me and stand at the bottom, so I can't see

(01:00:52):
as he's up there, but I would love to hear
that just week one. The rest of them, you can
you can tell, get a little extra longer. But I
think for this first want to be awesome, just to
send the message to the team we got to do
our best to start to we know, and for all
the great things that we want to do this year,
it starts with playing great at home. And that's a
collective effort from our players, our coaches, our fan base,

(01:01:14):
and so I'm excited to set off twenty twenty five
the right way at home and Orange we're oranged out,
you know, and the jersey is great and our guys
to be fired up.

Speaker 17 (01:01:23):
That's something you keep track of during Someone like, what's
that you keep track's on the escalator game?

Speaker 14 (01:01:28):
No, it's just my line of sight. As I look
at the ruler of the jungle, I can see right
of guard and I see an escalator.

Speaker 17 (01:01:33):
Keep track of how loud the atmosphere is kick off,
like when you get in, like the vibes like here
or something like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
If that's something that you.

Speaker 14 (01:01:39):
Know, No, but in this game, I want to I'm
going to So that's one time, one time for me.
Usually I'm I'm talking about the first call and hash
and uh all the other things that are the distances
and all that kind of stuff. But for this game,
for one second, I'm going to look up there and
see everybody in their seats. Sam, Yeah, pretty cool, you know,

(01:02:04):
pretty cool. I just I I knew at some point
that would happened, and happened right out the gate. And
you know, it's a lot of great memories of him.
So I think it's pretty neat to see him out
there aware.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
So talk about what you've seen in terms of progress
from Trevor maybe a couple.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Of years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Now, what is he doing better at this stage of his.

Speaker 14 (01:02:25):
Game Trevor Larrens. But I just think he's always shown
capabilities to play the rehavable and so he's a really
difficult task for a quarterback from watching his days in
college playing the T and all those guys, and so
again it's it's we got to work out out for
us with this team.

Speaker 17 (01:02:40):
Come along those lines, and then as a sorry he
can come off, uh if you know this game with
number one overall picks and as an offensive coach who's
play call as well, when you have a guy that
that's talents as a quarterback, what's the best thing you
can do as a coach and nurture that talent and
make sure they maximize their potential at the end, like.

Speaker 14 (01:02:57):
Have a great team around him. Obviously you give him
away weapons and they got a lot of weapons. You know,
they got a really good defense. I think these guys
play well. They've drafted over there these last couple of
years and Coordinator's done a great job with them. So
overall it's a it's a good team. We got to
work cut off for us. Up with all the talk
about the hot start, it's starting fast.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
How aware of you argue of your week two record?

Speaker 14 (01:03:20):
Zero awareness?

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
What would it? What would it mean to win?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
It would be your first win in week two since
been coming head?

Speaker 14 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I just want to be too and O. I
know I haven't been to an O some sing here
that I can tell you. So, but again it's it's
not that part doesn't matter. Our team just each week
has focused on really simple things starting with week one,
and it's the same focus for week two and so
big picture wise, that doesn't concern us. What concerns us
to start and how I want to know at home,

(01:03:47):
and then that puts us bestivate forward to do all
the things we want to do in our division and
so on, so we do. We just keep it a
lot simpler than than the things that are probably more
fun to talk about. But in our rooms, it's It's
as simple as that.

Speaker 21 (01:03:58):
It became a thing at the end of last year
to send Joe Jamar and t out of cooint toss.
He did it again on Sunday in Cleveland. It feels
like a small thing, but it is that something you
think about or is just going to ride it.

Speaker 14 (01:04:11):
I I've worn the blue jacket that I have on
every road game since we've been winning. So I'm gonna
keep wearing this. I got all my kids' names in it,
and I'm going to keep sending jo Ja Maranty out
there until I decided that's not what's best for us.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That is most of Zach Taylor speaking to members of
the media today. How about that question from James how
about the idea that he's not won a week two
games since he's been the coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
It's crazy, That's insane. I was just looking it up
while he was talking. Do you know his career record
as a head coach including the postseason? No, he is
fifty two, fifty four and one. He's very close to
getting over five hundred is a head coach? Okay, we're

(01:04:58):
inching up on it. We're getting closer. Also, did you
know that he won the Greasy Neil Award in twenty
twenty one? What's that named after? Greasey Neil? A Red's legend?
Greasy Neil, Greasy Neil. Greasy Neil was a football player
and a head coach and a baseball player, and he

(01:05:19):
was like a legend in the nineteen nineteen World Series
for the Reds. Do you remember a few years ago
when Ellie stole second third home? Sure the last person
to do that was Greedy and Neil. And I didn't
know that there was an award named after Greasey Neil
And it is presented by the Maxwell Football Club to

(01:05:40):
the top head coach of the National Football League. Really,
and Zach won it in two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
I would have.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Yeah, write that down, Zach Taylor. And apparently there's a
touchdown Club of Columbus NFL Coach of the Year that
is considered Paul Brown Trophy. Oh, these are things I'm
learning for the very first time. Oh, unbelievable good stuff

(01:06:09):
from Zach Taylor. Zach's gonna be paying attention to Sam
Howard though just for one game, just for one game.
He's so full of crap. He definitely goes up there
and you definitely you know he watches it. Everybody watches it.
It's cool, it's fun. Yeah, yep, he can try to
fool us all he wants. Yeah, coach speak. I'm so
focused on the game. Come on, don't mind if he

(01:06:31):
focus on getting the calls in a little earlier. That
was not asked, at least not from what we heard,
that was not asked. That's what we want to know.
We'll ask the hard hitting questions later in the week.
We got a I mean, we still John Sharon's gonna
join us tomorrow, Charlie Geord Smith on Friday. Yep, we'll
get an answer, one way or another. We'll get an answer.

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Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
I think the offense bounces back. I think it's a T.
Higgins kind of day.

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
For some reason.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I got a question about you sitting in the box door.

Speaker 19 (01:08:16):
He had zero targets, whether a healthy scratch or did
Joe just not find him who.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I don't think he was open. I don't think he
was targeted much that right there.

Speaker 23 (01:08:27):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
It gets me excited because when we were in here
yesterday Austin, there was a sales meeting going on and
they started talking about holiday packages and it got me
thinking about the holidays. And then we hear that from
Yosi Vasha they're selling packages. I'm ready for the holiday season.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
Man.

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
I think there needs to be like a study done
on us Reds fans, because you know, my brain's telling
me we've been hurt so many times before. It's like
a crappy relationship where you know they're bad for you,
but they bring so much joy to your life.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
And then all of a sudden it seems like they're
crappy to you again.

Speaker 15 (01:08:59):
Yeah, and then out of nowhere they creep up all
these positive things they keep doing for you, yep, just
to get heart broken in the end.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
But maybe they won't break our heart this time, Or
am I being naive?

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Your nive?

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Everything's good til they start reaching for the bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, you start thinking and it's like, well this time
they're different, Yep, this time they're changed, and then events start.

Speaker 24 (01:09:20):
Bench cut Matt McClain makes the opening day roster for
twenty twenty six, u se makes a bowl game, or
Joe Burrow finishes the season without getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Love the show, guys, Oh hope you have a great day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I'm gonna start Burrow finishing the season without getting hurt,
just because I'm gonna speak that in new existence. Okay,
I'm going to bench you see making a bowl game,
and I'm going to cut Matt McClain.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
That's what I'm doing. I'm gonna start you see, doesn't
make a bowl game. I'm gonna bench Matt McClain. I'm
gonna cut Joe Burrow gets old at some point, Oh.

Speaker 25 (01:09:53):
Tody, Austin Doors of the Valley of the Reds are
back boys, Okay, what you should do?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
So?

Speaker 25 (01:09:59):
Also the night for Rookie of the Year. Hey, I
like you just get it with Tony Pike though, so
we what we need to do TP is at the
before the Hall of Fame. You need to go through
like all your great games and talk about him so
you know, people can get familiar that don't know about
how great you are.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Well, we're pretty much awesome. We're pretty much Wow. How
much done?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
That was the only wow?

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Wow?

Speaker 23 (01:10:26):
Tony Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Check Brundle, what's up? I have a blog. I have
a website. You don't know what you're talking about because
I have an AP vote right Bearcats one through twenty five.
You say you don't know who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
I live at Camp higher Grounds. Check Brundle out Hey,
Tony and Austin Ken from Hilton Head.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Here you, Tony, let's hear some more of those stories from.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Your playing days. Those are great here. God, I like
hearing all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
And also, you know, I get frustrated with the Red
but I'm not giving up one of them yet.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Come on, guys, you can do it, Tony, Let's get
them going.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
There are there are a few times in life where
I can hear something and I can close my eyes
and I can be at that at that spot, Ken
right now is sitting on a beach and you can
hear because there's always that that heavy breeze at the beach,
and you hear the waves crashing in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
I could take myself there right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Do you on your phone ever use the background sounds
to help you sleep?

Speaker 16 (01:11:47):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:11:48):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
I do this every night, and there's a bunch of
different background sounds you can use. There's like a bright noise,
dark noise, rain stream. I choose ocean. Okay, this is
this is what happens. What sounds like hmm, waves just
crashing in. Yeah, I could. I could transport myself there

(01:12:11):
right now. That's when I sleep every night.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
I hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Should we do like a box score from a random
game of your college career between now and every week
between now and Okay, I like that. Do you mind
if I put some bad games in there?

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Nope? Whatever and whatever, anything, Just don't normally hunt jaguars
are you the hunter or the prey? I ask, how
do you?

Speaker 11 (01:12:37):
How do you spell them prey p r A y
because there's a lot of praying going on now with defense?

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
What pr e y, Jim? You need prayer? That's from praying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, the lady went the ap pole.

Speaker 26 (01:12:54):
You don't have to be perfect, but you got to
put South Florida head of Florida. You gotta have sense,
Lane Kiff and shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
No, I mean, I'm a gambler.

Speaker 26 (01:13:06):
There's no way he should say that. I'm excited about
this Bengals front seven.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Let's get after it, all right. I feel like in
the gambling world, you got to know when to hold
him and you got to know when to fold him. No,
wheen to walk.

Speaker 27 (01:13:23):
Awas Richmond, Happy Wednesday to you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Never count your money.

Speaker 27 (01:13:30):
Kats in this game. Yes on Saturday. I know we
have no business playing this team. I'm just wondering what's
an acceptable outcome for you? Is it a fifty to
nothing blewout? I mean, what is it that we want
to see? And I was curious if you would ask
Dan that question as well? What does he want to
see on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Minnesota? And don't do they still row the boat in Minnesota?
Is that that that same coach that rows the boat?
Nobody don't know any thing about Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Man, he's you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
Tom?

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, he rose something, Yeah, PJ Street, PJ Fleck Fleck Yeah, yeah,
so that's what you get in your teeth. Yeah, he
still rows the boat. They they were up on the
Northwestern State Demons, Demons thirty five nothing after one quarter.
They were beating them fifty nine nothing at the half.

(01:14:24):
I would like to see the Bearcats win this game
by fifty points. I'll start there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Hello, this is former president Ronald Riggan Well Sunday, HiT's
paint the jungle orange will. Normally a Bengel doesn't eat
an Opa lopak, but if they're hungry enough, they will.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I can't remember which one of you guys said
you were a uniform nerd.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
That's me.

Speaker 28 (01:14:55):
But James Rapine has a black helmet with orange stripes
in his display behind him when he does his podcast.
That helmet would look freaking awesome with orange jerseys and
white pants.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
No, no good, people that I disagree with you on that.
I don't know if I like that combination. But I
feel like that guy's voice. I could listen to him
read a story. I don't think a black helmet would
look good with this week's combination. I think the Bengals
are maxed out on their helmets because they have the
all white one. But you can buy those. I know

(01:15:34):
they used to them at the pro shop, used to
sell them all the time. They're really popular. I've never
been a big fan personally, but I know a lot
of people do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Like I'd like to hear him really.

Speaker 29 (01:15:41):
Okay, So that Jaguars Bengals betting line three and a half,
that's very, very weird.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
You have three points just for being at home, two
to three points.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
So are they saying that they're even teams? I don't know.

Speaker 29 (01:15:56):
That's a that's a weird line. Also, there is a
team that's going to catch it. It catch the Mets,
but it's going to be the Giants. Yes, and also Austin,
I would definitely rethink that. Uh that Packers proclamation before
the season.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Well I did, I said the next because the next
day they traded for Micah Micah and I said, okay,
that might be enough to get them into that tier.
It feels like with the spread on some Sunday, someone
could be hiding something.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
At the same time, Austin, you've been a proponent, been
trying to tell people. You've told people all off season
about this game, and I think that has been shown
in what the line is right now?

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
Hey, Mike, who would win? A panther or a jaguar?
Poor polar bear?

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Probably a polar bear. How much is the polar bear away?

Speaker 14 (01:16:46):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
A lot? Enough to break the ice? Ha ha?

Speaker 30 (01:16:50):
But hey, this dj the Bengal promo for the Jags
Bengals game. I could have done without mike assessment of
animal kingdom. I thought that was one of Mike's best
Kingdom's Jaguars versus I learned something and jaguars jumping out
of trees.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Come on, Mike killing me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I learned something today. There's some great videos if you
ever look it up, of jaguars, uh, stalking alligators. Oh,
and they like dive into the water hunting alligators. It's
fascinating to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Good afternoon. Two things fellas Jacksonville. It's all hype. They
are not going to touch us, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:17:31):
And I was wondering would it be possible for Mike
to get his own segment like the Mike Minute, so
we can kind of know what time.

Speaker 14 (01:17:38):
He was going to be on every day.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
I don't think Mike knows when he's gonna be on
every day. The Mike Minute.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Yes, we can sponsor it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
He gets about a Mike hour every day between our
show and we sponsor it.

Speaker 20 (01:17:50):
Hey Fellas gets them, and you know, I think Forrest
Gump said it best when describing the Bengals.

Speaker 23 (01:17:57):
It's like a box of chocolates.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
You never know what you're going to get.

Speaker 20 (01:18:01):
They're such a Jackal and High team that the offense
could be brilliant and the defense can stink, or like
last week, the defense can be good and the offense
can stink. There's such a Jekyl and High team that
you just don't know until kickoff what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
Do you guys agree?

Speaker 10 (01:18:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I don't think they're jeckling hide. I think for the
most part, you know what they're going to be offensively,
and I think Water will find its level a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Defensively. I think they're they're better than than what they
were last year. I don't think they're going to be
as good as what they were able to do. Sunday
all year. I think it's fair to say that the
Bengals secondary is Jekyl and Hyde because sometimes bodies high. Yeah, Like,
sometimes those guys look like sometimes and other times they
look like it's their first time on a football field.

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So I would say that element of them is definitely inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Hey, hey, I was just wondering, why do they call
it pay us interference?

Speaker 14 (01:18:58):
Shouldn't they call it catch Barns?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Well, that is that rule is so stupid. They're interfering
with the pass that was thrown. The amount of times
that that is called on passes that are uncatchable is disgusting.

Speaker 31 (01:19:13):
With the main concern being Jacksonville's Travis n Ten. It
could be a big get day for linebackers for the Bengals,
including Grin and Barrett, Carter, Soren, Orrin Burt, Demetrious Knight
and the Pips and Logan.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Hello, mister Wilson, Bengals thirty to twenty. Good day.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Now, see that's a way at our own hearts.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
You throw some name game out there. You know who
starts tomorrow night for the Packers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Who's that? Jordan?

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I can't help, but wow, I can't help falling in. Whoa,
I won your best one?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Huh?

Speaker 20 (01:19:51):
If we get Joe today, all you beat riders who
listen into the show, will you please ask about getting
the plays in on times?

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Yes? Since someone do it get hit with that one
that we know of?

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Well, I know rappeen don't got the gun now we
try to call him to make him do it today
acounts that's actually not a joke. Like I'm busy. Try
to call James before the show to ask him a
question about something important. He just ignores it. Bad busy?
What's up? Are bad? And you know are bad?

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
By the way, this is your show, by the way, Yeah,
tomorrow night. What a Thursday night game that is? I
know starting off hot.

Speaker 12 (01:20:33):
Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
This is Kate from Montgomery.

Speaker 23 (01:20:35):
I have time this talk back to coincide with the
cut in the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Hill on seventy five north coming home from the airport.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Beautiful Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Paper Stadium, great American ball parks, the River.

Speaker 13 (01:20:49):
The bridges.

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
We're lucky to live in Cincinnati for the greater Cincinnati area.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Heyday, I'll tell you what, much like that beach conversation earlier,
I could put myself in the exact spot.

Speaker 32 (01:21:02):
She was into yep, never gets old repping the city
out here to man. That video got me super hype.
I'm ready to run through the wall with snop bubbles
already showing my stripes. Jacksonville about to get beat down
thirty five to twenty one Bengals Burrow three eighty three
touchdowns is going down. We're gonna see the kitty gritty
by Mike team and Bearcats. We know you're gonna blow

(01:21:25):
this team out. I'm not biting that apple. I already
told you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
What it was.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
That coach is hot.

Speaker 32 (01:21:29):
That's he gonna stay hot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
And dang did the Reds win? I think they did
it the kitty gritty I like that a lot.

Speaker 23 (01:21:39):
Tony Austin's he in here that first game. I instantly
felt relieved, even though it was the Browns. It doesn't matter.
The defense is already better. We're gonna get into the playoffs. Okay,
and that's when we are dangerous.

Speaker 19 (01:22:02):
Okay, Okay, Hey Mike from LA you got me doing
a little bit of thinking about a tiger and a jaguar.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
So the jaguar has.

Speaker 19 (01:22:10):
The strongest bite of any big cat at up to
two thousand pounds per square inch, which could could crush
the tiger the skull of a tiger, but the mouth
of a jaguar can only open up to eleven inches wide,
and the head of a Bengal tiger is up to
twelve inches wide, so he can't even bite him.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
Take that.

Speaker 33 (01:22:28):
Oh okay, all right, as Michael from CoV what up though?
Hey are you negative Bengel fans?

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Shut up?

Speaker 6 (01:22:38):
Oh?

Speaker 33 (01:22:38):
Like, I would much rather have an ugly wind than
a pretty loss. Yep, you know, and we was on
the other side of that coin last year or so.

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Anyway, Oh, I love you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Love you Michael Man. You know it's a good point.
We talked about how in the offseason the Bengals basically
said we just got unlucky last year. Well, they got
pretty lucky on Sunday. Is the world evening out? Water
finding its level? Bengals have won six straight regular season games?

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Questions comments concerned? Is that the longest streak in football?
I think it's tied. Yeah, okay, who's the tide with
I can't remember. Probably the Eagles. You're looking it up
because we need to take a break. Oh that's all

(01:23:32):
of our talk about. Yeah, we're done Okay, sorry, I
didn't tell you that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
That's on me, brother, yep. I am just get ready
for this disastrous weekend you got coming up where you
get to talk about football for a little take a
break on to watch the games.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Welcome back since he three sixty football in the NATI
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We spent a lot
of time this offseason Austin, and rightfully so, talking about
the offensive line of the Cincinnati Bengals. Early in the game,
Lucas Patrick goes down with the calf injury. Dalton Reisner

(01:24:32):
comes in. I didn't talk about it a ton yesterday,
but I think a moment here to give credit to
Dalton Reisner for doing something that is not easy to do,
to come in, learn a playbook and then not only
come in and hold your own but played a pretty
good level in protecting Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Ted Carris called it the most outstanding display of professionalism
he's ever seen from a football player, which is pretty
high praise from a guy who played with Tom Brady
and you know, played under Bill Belichick for a while.
So yeah, that was pretty cool to se that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
I saw him at an elementary school yesterday. Yeah, doing
some stuff lovely. I think he was a loved one. Yeah,
that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Yeah, the the old line as a whole, and again
I'm not I don't have the PFF grades in front
of me, but as a whole, how would you grade
the offensive line? We know the run the run game
wasn't good enough. Yeah, pass protecting, what grade would you

(01:25:28):
give him?

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
See?

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Uh, probably less than that. I mean, if you're a
Bengal fan and that game ends in a different way,
or or Joe Burrow is slower to get up on
the Miles Garrett hit, or he delivered, as you mentioned yesterday,
an absolute dime but paid for it. You don't want
to see many of those throughout the season. That is

(01:25:49):
a little bit worrisome. Burrow was touched way too much. Yeah,
and I understand that part of that is Miles Garrett
exists and he causes problems, but also he was touched
way too much. I felt like I felt like Dylan
Fairchild struggled, which as I expected him too. He's a
rookie in that environment against those players. The biggest like

(01:26:11):
the bigger issue. I mean, obviously Burro getting hit his
issue A and topic A and always will be. But
after the opening drive there was nothing on the run game. Yeah,
and watching the film, I mean, they were just Cleveland
gave it to him, just destroyed them. How about this
stat though Dalton Reisner gave up one pressure on the day,

(01:26:33):
it was a hurry on that three sack series. He
played at twenty four pass blocking snaps last year Austin.
So about the seventeen game season, only once did a
Bengal guard earn an eighty or plus PFF pass blocking grade.
Dalton Reisner did that in his first outing with an
eighty point five. It's interesting because I saw it as

(01:26:53):
a different grade. Oh, I saw a sixty four point eight. Well,
that wouldn't be good pass in a thirty six point
four run blocker, that wouldn't be good. But you're right,
I mean historically, yeah, he has been excellent in pass coverage.

(01:27:13):
Can I come back to one thing that Mike brought up? Sure,
I asked Chad Gpt. Oh boy, who would win in
a fight between a jaguar and a tiger, and it
says in a one on one fight, a tiger would
almost win every time. Yeah, size and strength smarter tigers
three hundred to six hundred pounds jaguars one hundred to
two fifty. Jaguars have the strongest bite force relative to

(01:27:36):
body size, but tigers are overall stronger, and they have
the reach advantage. And tigers are used to taking down
very large prey and are more experienced in prolonged fights.
Dang jaguar could be dangerous, but in a head to
head a counter the tiger size and strength give it
too much of an advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
I then asked Chad Gpt to make me a photo
of a Bengal winning a fight against a jaguar with
Joe Burrow looking on.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
They said they can't do it. It's still it's still loading, Okay,
I'm waiting to see it. Just double checked on the
PFF website. They do have Dalton Reisner as a thirty
six point four run block grade a sixty four point
eight pass block grade in an overall grade of forty
three point six, which is good for seventy third among

(01:28:20):
seventy eight qualified guards. So do these do the grade?
Do they grade initially and then go back and regrade? Yes,
they do. Okay, So the one I'm looking at is
September seventh. Yeah, they do a PFF live grade. Okay,
so that's that must have been what all those stats are.
Almost always those grades are almost always much higher okay
than the review.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
Okay, but that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Service of Cincy shirts. What's so funny, man? I uh,
my brother Devon and I Devin played at wake Forest
and there'll be a lot better player than you. They
would always be back and forth, like you know, the
Wake Forest teams he played on. They won a couple
of Bowl games, but weren't great. It was always like,
well we to be you guys, blah blah, blah. I

(01:29:36):
stumbled across because someone sent it to me what if
sports dot com And it takes every team's database from years,
and you could plug in the away team, you could
plug in the home team. You could change field conditions
or anything like that if you want to, and you
sum it up and you can type in who wins.
And the Bearcats dominated both Devon's junior and senior year.

(01:29:56):
And then I had some fun often because if you
remember back to the early early two thousand and nine year,
the Bearcats were actually supposed to play Ohio State in
two thousand and nine. Ohio State ended up buying out
the game, which, you know, more power to them, but
I did just simulate that game. Yeah, according to what
if sports dot com, right, the Buckeyes come into Nippert

(01:30:17):
Stadium and they fall thirty eight to fourteen, oh at
the hands of the Cincinnati Bearcatch. This was what year
two thousand and nine. Yeah, that's probably that's probably twenty
two of thirty six for three sixteen and five touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
That's what you did. That's what it says.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
That's that's probably accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Sorell prior one able to get much going just thirteen
to twenty seven for a buck eighty two. But it
did say boom Herron ran for one hundred and seven
yards and two scores. That boom Heron could play a
little bit now, Yeah, Bengals and Baker led the team
in receiving with seventy three yards.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Jake Ballard had thirty eight yards as well. Okay, but
you feel better now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I'm gonna have some fun with this.

Speaker 23 (01:30:54):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
I'm gonna have some fun. How many bowl games did
you win in your career?

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
International Bowl, Papa John's Dot Com Bowl, Birmingham Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I was a part of three wins, so you were
three and two?

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Yep, gotcha. What a day it is? What a day
it is?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Jaguars, I can't believe you've never heard of this. I
remember Jaguars and Bengals fighting. Now I'm simmon. Matchups?

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
What is let's what if say about this week's matchup?
Can you put that that in? Or is it only
past teams? I think it's past teams? Okay, what what
do you mean this week's matchup like the Bengals and
the Jags? No, yeah, it doesn't have that. Okay, it's
got to be previous years. So you could do the
twenty twenty four seasons, but you can't do anything else,
all right, fair enough?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
This is this is bad news for everybody that knows
Tony Pike. Yeah, it's even about somebody who loves to
live in the past. You really we're talking. We were
talking about Chad Gpt. One of our coworkers asked who
would win between Chad Brendle and Lance McAllister. Oh, Lance
a mile and so I asked that to chat Gpt
and it's you know, it kind of went right down
the middle and said, you want me to make a

(01:32:01):
funny fight poster style in the Yeah, Chad versus Lance,
and it looks nothing like either of them. Did you
get the image of Joe Burrow that you were asking for? Yeah,
it's pretty good. Yeah, why don't you send it to me?
Pretty good? I'd like to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Um, gonna try to steer this ship back somewhere into
normal waters with Dan Horde to kick off our number
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Cincinnati Bengals joining us to kick off our number three
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
It's Dan Horde. Dan, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Tony Austin.

Speaker 7 (01:33:11):
It's a beautiful day in the Natty and I can't
wait for two home games this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
You got to sweep over the weekend, Dan, with the
Bearcats knocking off Bowling Green, Bengals go and beat the
Cleveland Browns. Let's discuss. Let's start, obviously with the Browns
Bengals game. Everyone points at the offense and the struggles.
We've seen the struggles early in the season. We know
how talented this roster is. And yes, you see seven

(01:33:37):
yards and a half and that can certainly screw you
a little bit. But if you look at this from
the grand scheme of things, there's not a lot to
be concerned about about this offense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:33:48):
Is anybody worried about the Bengals offense long term? Variously?
I mean I don't think anybody is. I'm certainly not.
They scored fewer points last year in Week one than
they did this year, and they wound up being the
sixth highest scoring team in the NFL. So I think
the offense is going to break out, and probably breakout soon. Lookout, Jacksonville.

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It could happen this Sunday. That would not surprise me
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
The difference of this year to play underpar offensively, to
play good on defense, but find a way to win
a game that maybe you shouldn't have won. How different
of a field does that create now from the locker
room to now going into this week of practice, Because
there is there's a lot to work on for any
team after Week one, But when you're able to do that,

(01:34:34):
when you want to know, it makes it a lot
easier going forward.

Speaker 7 (01:34:38):
I just want to go back to the twenty twenty
two season when they started slowly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
In that year, they did wind up in the AFC
Championship game.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
But in Week one they basically lost exactly how they
won last week. It was that game against the Steelers,
Clark Harris got hurt. They had to have Mitchell Wilcox
snap money Mack has a pa, a game winning pat
blocked in the last ten second seconds when it looked

(01:35:05):
like Burrow had pulled off a miracle comeback. And then
they had a field goal try in overtime that was
less than thirty yards that they shanked left because the
snap came back at like, you know, four miles an
hour instead of the normal.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Velocity would come back. So it's happened to them before.

Speaker 7 (01:35:21):
It's about time that another team lost in the exact
same fashion.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
And I don't care how it looked. They got the win.

Speaker 7 (01:35:29):
They're going to get better and road wins in the
division are hard to come by, so I don't care
how it looked. I am not the least bit upset
about how they played. They won the freaking game. Let's
go win another.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
We all know how confident the Bengals offense is, but
I can't stop watching that video of the Bengals posted
of Burrow going through the locker room and the defensive
back saying we got your back, We got your back.
How important is it for a young group that has
a lot of pressure on them to feel the confident
that they feel after a game that they played so

(01:36:02):
well in Cleveland going into the rest of the season,
because you know, they've been kind of beat up and
talked about quite a bit. How important is confidence for
a young group, especially that.

Speaker 7 (01:36:11):
Secondary really really important, especially after what happened in the preseason.
Because we praised the defense for looking good during training camp,
and it did. We weren't making it up. You know,
there were days that the defense outperformed burrowing the offense
in other days where it's more or less a stalemate.

(01:36:31):
Then in the three preseason games, they were atrocious and
everybody thought, oh, here we go again. It might even
be worse. So for them to come out with Al
Golden calling the game the way he intended to call it,
guys giving it full effort and play as well as
they did, I think that was great for their confidence.
And it begins with stopping the run. This team has
been atrocious at defending the run for the past several years.

(01:36:55):
To have a team keep running so twenty four carries
for the Browns. It wasn't like they band in it
early in the game not to have a single carry
longer than five yards. Had averaged two yards per carry
in the game. That's winning football. So there are things
to tighten up in the secondary, but sixteen points in
two yards of carry's going to get.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
It done most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Couple levels and layers to this defense that I wanted
to highlight one. You know, Al Golden was a linebackers
coach here before going to becoming a defensive coordinator. I
looked at this position as kind of an unknown because
you bring in Demetrius Knight out of the draft, you
get Logan Wilson back, and in the first opportunity they
have in a real game to play together, Demetrius Knight

(01:37:39):
solo tackles ten total. Logan Wilson had seven tackles. What
did you feel that that was the key to unlocking
what they were able to get from their linebackers, especially
a gay Demetrius Knight playing in his first.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
NFL game, Tony, I think he had six tackles on
the Browns opening drive. That's got to be an NFL record, right,
most by a defensive player in his debut on an
opening drive. I can't imagine anybody's ever had more than six.
I thought he was great, and I thought that he
looked exactly like the guy that we had described moments

(01:38:14):
after the Bengals drafted him.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
Two hundred and.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
Forty pounds, fast, downhill, hard hitting. Maybe not the greatest
coverage linebacker out there, Barrett Carter will probably get more
and more playing time and obvious passing situations. But if
you're looking for a guy that hits people and makes,
you know, help set the tone on first down and

(01:38:37):
second down, Demetrius Knight is that guy, and I thought
he was great.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
It's it's one thing to have great linebacker play, but
those linebackers also need to be able to play downhill
and play without having to shed blocks. And when your
front four is doing their job, it makes the linebacker's
job a lot easier. And I'm talking anywhere from BJ Hill,
what Mike Pennell was able to do, TJ. Slayton, who
they went out and got, Chris Jenkins, the list can

(01:39:04):
go on and on.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
What from the front four, and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Again they made an emphasis to get better at stopping
the run. It just allows those linebackers to play so
much more free. What was your take on that front
four as a whole. Coming out a week one.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I thought TJ.

Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
Slayton was exactly what he was supposed to be, a
quick three hundred and forty pound guy that's hard to block,
hard to double team and help shut down the run.
He did that, plus showed a little bit as a
pass rusher, which was a pleasant surprise. I thought Trey
played the run well in week one, which was great
to see. You know what have we said about Trey

(01:39:44):
Hendrickson during the contract negotiations, elite pass rusher, one of
the best in the NFL, but not the run stopper
that Miles Garrett and Max Crosby are well, Trey did
a nice job against the run in Week one and
helped them get into obvious passing say situations. Chris Jenkins
was solid. I thought DJ Hill was really good considering

(01:40:05):
how little he did during training camp. Miles Murphy was
okay for the twenty two snaps that he was in there,
and Shamar Stewart looked excellent. So I thought across the board,
the defensive line looked really good.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
As you shift your focus to Jacksonville and prepare for them.
What stands out about the Jags.

Speaker 7 (01:40:24):
Two hundred plus rushing yards in Week one against Carolina
and more than six yards of carry, So here we go.
The Bengals defense looked great at stopping the run in
Week one, but now they're facing a team that was
as good as anybody in the NFL and their opener
at running the ball, so it's going to be a
legit challenge. Etn appeared to be as good as ever

(01:40:46):
in Week one. He finished with one one hundred and
forty three rushing yards in that victory, nearly nine yards
of carry. I'm a Syracuse grad, so I had hopes
that maybe the Bengals would take lequint Ally in the
draft this year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
He went to Jacksonville in the seventh round instead.

Speaker 7 (01:41:04):
Really good pass catcher out of the backfield. So I
think the running game and the running backs in general
are good, and that's going to be a job one
for the Bengals this week.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
How much can what Shamar Stewart gives them allow Al
Golden to unlock with this defense because he looks like
a guy to me. He showed the strength we've all
seen the clips of him against the Cleveland Browns and
the overall strength. I've seen him taking on three blockers
to allow others to make a tackle. We know he's
got speed, we know there's athleticism, and I know he

(01:41:34):
didn't flash from a box score, but I thought he
flashed just watching the game.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
And that's Game one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
How much can Al Golden use him in a way
that maybe they can't use all the other defensive ends
where they can move him inside, they can move him outside,
they can stand him up a little bit. What does
he give Al Golden.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
He's definitely the most versatile guy that they have up front.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
I'm feeling good about my preseason hot take that he
would finish in the top five in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
As a rookie and deflected passes.

Speaker 7 (01:42:05):
He had two in Week one, only one counted, unfortunately
because of a penalty on Orrin Burks. I might have
to update that prediction to he will lead the NFL
in deflected passes as a rookie and it will be
double digits. He's got an uncanny knack at getting his
hands on passes, and part of that is just, you know,

(01:42:27):
the sheer physical freak aspect. His wingspan is seven feet
he's six' five because of his. Explosiveness he generally gets
close to the quarterback even if he doesn't hit.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
Him so there you.

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
Go he will leave THE nfl as a rookie and
deflect the Classes landbord hot.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Take you AND i had a chance to See Travis
hunter live in. Person what do you view from your
time watching him as his biggest? Strength is it in
the secondary or is it with The Jacksonville jaguars as a.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
Receiver, well they are using him as a wide. Receiver
so In week one he had a good. Game he
had six, catches didn't go for a ton of yards
thirty three, yards but he didn't get a ton of
snaps on. DEFENSE i think it was six snaps on
defense In week.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
One it's.

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
Funny last year At colorado he had more than fourteen hundred,
snaps more than three hundred more than any other college.
Player last week he had thirty, Nine so that would
average out to less than seven hundred snaps during the
course of a seventeen game, season less than half of
his workload last year At, colorado So i'd expect that

(01:43:38):
number to go. Up but at least In week one
they didn't use him.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
A ton ON.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Dp he led the team in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Targets In week, One Brian Thomas, junior who is an
all world type, receiver only had one catch in the.
Game This jacksonville, Offense, DAN i feel like with a new,
coach a new play, Caller Trevor lawrence is kind of
in that put up or shut up type, season and
as you, mentioned they were able to get the running game.
Going it does make them a viable threat offensively going

(01:44:06):
into a.

Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
Game and you've got to think That brian, Targets Brian
thomas is going to get targeted a budge On sunday
after getting one catch in week. One he had nearly
thirteen hundred receiving yards as a. Rookie and how ABOUT
lsu wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
When you see.

Speaker 7 (01:44:24):
HIM i, mean the list now is it's like The
Mount rushmore of wide receivers. Period Jamar, Justin, Jefferson Malik,
Neighbors Brian, thomas they're, Active Odell Beckham junior and some
of the other guys that were there in the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Past it's pretty. Good stop.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Bad Jarvis landry comes to. Mind it's.

Speaker 7 (01:44:45):
Great Jarvis. Landry, yeah throw him on the. List Brandon,
lafelle if you want to throw a Former bengal in.
There there was good News Patriots, day so it's you,
Know cincinnati tight ends AND lsu wide.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Receivers there you, go makes, sense make.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Sense what's the one thing you want to see them
improve on the most From game one To game? Two
obviously Getting burrow a little bit more comfortable The bengals in,
hindsight we're only able to run it for two yards
of carry as, well what do you want to see
most improve from week one to week?

Speaker 7 (01:45:14):
Two similar to what we just said About Brian, THOMAS
i want to see a lot more Of Jamar.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Chase Credit cleveland for doing a.

Speaker 7 (01:45:23):
Good job of devoting their coverages to him and finding
ways to Prevent burrow from hooking up with. Him but
two catches for twenty six yards is not what we
expect From Jamar. Chase and he doesn't have back to
back unproductive games very. Often you can probably count on
one hand the number of times in HIS nfl career

(01:45:44):
he's gone two games in a row without having a
pretty big. Game SO i would Expect jamar to come
out and have maybe not double digit catches On, sunday
but certainly more than, five and if not more than
one hundred yards close to.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
IT i have to ask with Our bearcats as. Well
WHILE i have you a disappointing start to the, season
they fought. HARD i thought the defense played well Against,
nebraska and then you flip the switch To Bowling.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
Green.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
DAN i thought it was such a unique game because
it never felt to me in the second half Like
Eddie george was trying to win the. Game it felt
like they were very. Content that was. Weird they were
content taking their, time they were content getting a couple of.
Yards in lieu of, that you get beaten in time
of possession by a wide, Margin Bowling green runs more.
Plays how do you view the win Against Bowling, Green

(01:46:34):
because obviously there's a lot to improve, on but it
just never felt like a Normal saturday college football.

Speaker 7 (01:46:40):
Game and what you were saying About Eddie, george they
got passed the fifty twice facing fourth and short and.
Punted that's nineteen seventies. Strategy, no That's Don shula With
Bob greasy and The dolphins way back When Chuck noele
with The steelers and they're great defense in the. Seventies

(01:47:02):
that's not how teams do it. Now when you've got
fourth and. Short if the other team's forty one yard,
line you don't worry about twenty yards of field. Position
you try to keep the ball in. Score SO i
thought that that was kind of strange By Eddie. George
my overall view of the game last week was good
first second half of good first, half poor second. Half

(01:47:24):
it was twenty one to three at the. Half they
kicked the field goal in the third quarter to make
a twenty four to. Three it looked like they were
going to win by four. Touchdowns Then Evan pryor Fumbled
Bowling green scored a touchdown three players, later and suddenly
that gave them a little confidence momentum and the team's
kind of traded scores the rest of the.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Way SO i don't expect this week's game to be.

Speaker 7 (01:47:47):
Close Northwestern state over the past several years has been
one of the weakest teams in the. Country they got
crushed last week By, northwestern SO i think it's going
to be a laugher for The, bearcats and then after
a bye, week it gets real with a rogie A.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Kansas speaking of, confidence they didn't get much going in
the run, game but there was such an emphasis on
the passing, game they Get Jeff cadwell involved unbelievable one handed,
Catch Joe royer had a seventy three yard, catch albeit
he was just targeted twice in the. Game Cyrus allen
a forty four yarder with two. Touchdowns how important going
forward is that explosive downfield play going to be for

(01:48:23):
this offense to unlock it's full capability if they want
to be as balanced as they.

Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
Can it's, big AND i think typically what does a
team do from week to? Week the first thing you'd
do is try to improve upon the things that you
did poorly the week. Before so In week, One cincinnati's
passing game was. Bad didn't even have seventy passing yards
in the, game and about half of what they had
came on their final. Drive so what do you do

(01:48:47):
the next? Week you try to fix what was bad
the previous. Week they fixed. It three hundred and thirty
three passing, yards three. Touchdowns Jeff caldwell had one hundred,
Plus Joe royer had one hundred. Plus so the passing
game was, there but the running game wasn't as. Good,
yeah just just over one hundred yards Against Bowling. Green
so what do they do the next week to look
to fix. That SO i would expect the running game

(01:49:09):
to be. Better the passing game might not be quite
as explosive as it was as a, result but.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
It doesn't have to. Be let's try to get both
cooking for when they needed Against.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Kansas two quick ones on the defensive side of the
ball before we let you go one.

Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
Are we?

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Nationally Is Jake golde being undervalued? NATIONALLY i mean he.
Is he's all over the. FIELD i know he was
on the preseason freak, list but he. WAS i, mean
it's hard to be a one man wrecking crew in college.
Football he was every bit of. That he had fourteen.
Tackles he flies all over the. Field he can, cover
he can get after the. Passer he's a short.

Speaker 4 (01:49:47):
Tackler he's, UNDERVALUED i, think in my, opinion nationally.

Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
Totally, agree maybe not AMONG nfl. SCOUTS i think the
buzz is growing For Jake. GOLDAY i think he's going
to be a starting linebacker in the END, nfl but
he's tied for The national league In tapelsburg. Game he's
had a sack in each of the first two. Games
as you, mentioned he's been good in. Coverage the dude
is a total stud AND i think the reason why
maybe people don't know about him is that he's only

(01:50:14):
been a linebacker for, basically you, know a year and a.
Half he started his college career as a defensive, end
kind of a defensive stand up rush end At Central.
Arkansas eventually they moved him the linebacker toward the end
of his time. There and now obviously he's been a
full time linebacker At, cincinnati so he's still learning the.
Position but he's two hundred and forty, pounds runs twenty

(01:50:36):
two miles an. HOUR i, mean the dude's a freak
and it's showing up on the. Field he's been fun to.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
WATCH i know they're not going to have Him, saturday
and then you get the help of the bye. Week
it's an understatement, already but how important is Getting Dante
corleone back to this team when they get Into big
twelve play. It we've talked about. It it looks like
a completely different defense up the. Middle, obviously when done
Take corleone is not able to.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
Go it's.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
Critical they're not going to win a lot Of big
twelve games About Dante, corleone and hopefully he doesn't have
to miss any the bye week. Helps the hope is
he'll be back in time For, Kansas if not that,
game then the following week Against Diowa.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
STATE i will say one thing though about his.

Speaker 7 (01:51:19):
Absence in the short, term they've been playing With dante
in the middle And Jalen hunt as a defensive end
in their three man defensive. LINE i Think jalen is
capable of moving inside and the drop off won't be
as big as it's, been you, know keeping him on the.
End SO i think that's probably what they're likely to

(01:51:40):
do in the short, term Have jalen playing the inside,
more have other guys play on the, outside AND i
think that their defensive line can be, solid not as
good as as it is With dante out, there BUT
i think it can be solid With hunt playing in the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Middle where do you Rank Bowling green Linebacker Gideon lampren
from a middle name standpoint in all the years you've
been calling, football that.

Speaker 7 (01:52:04):
Would be getting AN Espn, lampram you, Know. Lambrin WHAT
i don't know BECAUSE i didn't, ask is if he
pronounces IT espn or if he pronounces IT. Espen, yes
that's one THING i should have asked and didn't but
yes on his birth certificate it IS. ESPN i believe
his dad was a sports. Fan that would seem to,

(01:52:26):
correlate and he says he loves it so good for.
Him some kits might be embarrassed by, that but he
said he's very proud of.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
His middle name and good for. Him he played. Well
Former dayton guy may can move to The mac and
he played.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Well that's, right led the second on the team in
tackles On. Saturday, DAN i can't thank you enough for joining.

Speaker 5 (01:52:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
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Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
Days right back at, You, Ton thanks for having me.
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you know right now who the most penalized team in
college football?

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
IS i?

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
Do that would BE u n L, v led By
Vontees berfect And Paul, gunther two of the worst defensive
minds in the history of professional.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
Football what do we think about? That?

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Yeah who would have? Think who would have saw that?

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Coming? Shocker.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Incredible let me ask you a couple of, Questions, okay
and you tell. Me should people overreact to it or?

Speaker 6 (01:56:25):
Not?

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Okay reds are three games back in The. Wildcard how
should people? Feel they shouldn't feel any way at. All don't,
overreact get excited and get. Excited what about people that now, say,
well The bengals defense is. Good i'm not saying they're,
elite not saying they're. Great but what about the people
that after one week, say, man The bengals defense is.
Good you should not be saying that. Either, okay don't don't. Overreact,

(01:56:47):
okay what about the people in The National Football league
that are, saying, man the culture? Good absolutely. Not, No,
no you're not A Daniel jones. Believer, no we're not
doing this after a week One, Okay, okay don't, Overreact
that's WHAT i, say. THOUGHTS i would not overreact to

(01:57:10):
The bengals. DEFENSE i would definitely not overreact to to
The Cincinnati, reds And i'm not yet overreacting to The Indianapolis. Colts,
okay do you overreact to The Pittsburgh steelers?

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
Offense? NO i.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
Don't this is kind of a bad game for me
BECAUSE i don't overreact to anything in week. One, okay
because It's week one and it doesn't really, matter all.
Right do you know in two thousand and, one The
bengals open their season with a home victory over The
New England. Patriots, Wow Corey dillon played, great killing clock,

(01:57:43):
Killing Corey dillon played. Great and you know this was
not a good football, team The. Bengals they were six and,
ten but they Beat New england twenty three to seventeen that. Day,
okay you know What New england went on to do
won A Super. Bowl they won The Super bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
Yep so.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
You, know does anybody when you think of the two
thousand and One New England patriots as anybody, Say, ah
they lost that game to The bengals to start the.
Season the Same what about the following week when they
lost to The New York jets ten to.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
Three but there are things in place that people.

Speaker 6 (01:58:22):
Do like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
A lot of people now after one week AND i
know the roster is, better are, saying, well The packers.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
Are the team to beat in THE. Nfc you still
don't think, so don't do. That, no who's THE nfc
team to Beat? Philadelphia?

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
Still?

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Okay why should it be? Anyone anyone?

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
Different, well The.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Packers had such an impressive win against The, lions, okay
and they and the and The eagles had to hang
on to beat The cowboys cram hand drop the. Game
maybe The cowboys are better than we, thought and maybe
The lions are worse than We what about it's too
early to? Tell what about not enough? Data how should
we react to what The chargers did to The? Chiefs

(01:59:02):
more about what The chargers did impressive or more about
maybe what we discussed with The chiefs of just not
being as good this. Year my thought, was maybe The
chargers are gonna throw it more THAN i thought they.
Would the identity of jim harball led football teams outside
of cheating to, win is running the. Football that's just

(01:59:23):
what they're known to. Do and they Drafted O'maryon hampton
and they Got Najie harris and they've got a good offensive,
line and you're thinking ground and pound With Jimmy harbs
and The, chargers, well they put the ball in the
hands of their quarterback to win the game over and
over and over. Again they Made Quintin johnston be a,
threat which is a very difficult. Task they made them.

(01:59:45):
Good so my thought process, is, oh maybe The chargers
are more of a threat through the air than through the. Ground,
okay these are the things you opened the, space or
you create space for. Possibilities you don't, say. Okay week
one hypothesis concludes this is what is fact or?

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Not faund, RIGHT i have one, more all, Right week,
one should we overreact to WHAT jj McCarthy did in
the second, Half, like IS jj McCarthy a legitimate quarterback
in THE? Nfl i'm not saying an elite Quarterback i'm
not saying a guy that's gonna put the team on his.

Speaker 4 (02:00:23):
Back IS jj McCarthy a good? QUARTERBACK i don't excuse.

Speaker 3 (02:00:27):
ME i KNOW i TALKED j McCarthy and all of a,
sudden you're choked.

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
UP i guess.

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
GUTS i don't think he. IS i don't think he is,
GUTS i. Do But kevin O'Connell is the best coach
in THE. NFL i just like can turn him into
a winner the way people were talking about how he
was in the locker room and what he was doing
on the sidelines and in the huddle and then delivering
like that and watching that team in the locker. ROOM

(02:00:54):
jj McCarthy since high, SCHOOL i believe is sixty four
and three as a starting. Quarterback, now obviously a huge
chunk of those have to be thrown away because it's, shooting,
sure but sixty four and three is a starting. Quarterback
the guy has experienced a lot of different ways to,
win whether that's through getting the opponent's signals or making

(02:01:16):
a play with his feet or making a big time
throw or in A national championship game only throwing the
ball ten. Times he's found ways to. Win so you
couple that with the best coach in THE, nfl a
guy who seems to fit their system pretty. Well there you,
Go all, right there we have. It what we're saying,

(02:01:36):
here What austin's, saying don't. Overreact, Yeah mulwager's next Quick
CHIT'S espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 4 (02:01:43):
Station thanks from.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
Sixty continues ON espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati's sports. Station it's
time for since he three sixty quick hits ON, ESPN.

Speaker 4 (02:01:58):
I have a question for you. Guys we're all big baseball, fans,
right and you know baseball has slid in the collective
consciousness of sports fans in this, country WHERE i have, wondered,
like does baseball have something that would grab people's attention
like Cal ripkens streak in nineteen ninety, five Or maguire
and sosaid in nineteen ninety, Eight like would a guy

(02:02:21):
trying to hit four? Hundred you, know would that captured people's?
Imagination a long hitting? Streak like if somebody Challenged pete
rose forty four the national record Or Joe DiMaggio's fifty,
six would people be locked? In AND i Think i've
stumbled upon the, Answer, oh BECAUSE i don't know about.
YOU i am captivated by this race that is unfolding right,
now where The reds three leading home run hitters Lead

(02:02:43):
Kyle schwarber now by. One whoa who's gonna end up
with more? Homers Kyle, schwarber who hit his fiftieth last,
night or the combined trio Of Ellie, Delacruz Spencer steer
And austin Hags.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Well ellie hit another one this?

Speaker 4 (02:02:56):
Year, sure.

Speaker 14 (02:03:01):
So you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
Did he'd nice to See South stewart get more, opportunities no,
question that Guy Will benson who never.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
Starts ellie hit a. BALL i thought for a, second
Like ellie Or Will benson like broke his. Head But
ellie hit a ball last night and it felt like
he hit it a And Peco park's a big. Park
but he hit a ball last night to dead center
field and it's like that right, now feels like about
as hard as he could hit. It, yeah BUT i
this is Gonna it's gonna captivate. Me, sure regardless of

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what happens with the wildcard, chase was which The reds,
Are they're still. There they've got bounce backability, Now but
who's going to finish with more home runs the trio
Of red's leading home run hitters Or Kyle. Schwarber right,
now it's neck and neck fifty one. FIFTY i imagine
this takes up at least an hour of your program to,

(02:03:47):
no it's going to take up the next like two
and a. Half do we get on?

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
Life how do you go? Get what do you do
for the rest of your?

Speaker 4 (02:03:51):
Show you got to think LIKE mlb network is going
to be breaking into all four hitters at. Bats, yeah,
right this is going to be the sort of thing
people are going to be tracking all across the. Country you're,
right what else you got? Today Joe burrow's going to
talk at three. Fifteen at three, Fifteen, well last, week
we have a chart behind all. This we all chart
detailing how on time or late he. Is it's kind

(02:04:13):
of like The bengals getting the play call. In oh
you want it to happen on, time but you don't.
Know we were just talking about this off. Air can
someone ask him second drive of the, season first play of.
It they have to call a time, out not like
after a three and out, either, right thirty minutes, Right
So Joe burrow's in his sixth. Season every game he's
played in the Nfl' Zach taylor's been the play. Caller
the personnel is basically the. Same why is that taking so?

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
Long WHAT i don't? Understand joe has now seen? Everything uh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Huh If i'm the play, Caller i'm getting it in.
Quick and Then i'm gonna, Say, joe you go do
what you need to do with the line of scrimmage
because that's, protection that's adjusting the, routes that's maybe changing
past to, run run to.

Speaker 3 (02:04:51):
Pass like there are countless.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
Examples Aaron rodgers does, it probably maybe one of the
best in THE nfl right now because he's been around so.
Long there's clips of. Him he's got fifteen seconds at
the line of. Scrimmage, yeah to fake a, snap try
to get the defense to, move adjust, things and then
you're sure of what the defense is. Doing now you
can find open receivers, instead even when they are getting
to snap, Off burrow's having to clap because there's two
seconds on the, clock right and he can't even go

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through a normal.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
Cadence they practice right like they they went to. Practice we. Doing,
Uh so we'll spend some time on. That Danny knell
is going to join us talk some about college. Football
get his thoughts on the big game Between cincinnati And
Northwestern State. Hi cincinnati should win this game by nine.
TOUCHDOWNS i put fifty out, There, okay win by at least.

(02:05:36):
FIFTY i want to see three quarterbacks play On. Saturday,
YEAH i want to see all three dudes go. Yep
so we'll spend some time on. That our, Guy sean
Sayed Statson scheme, podcast because WHAT i want to know
from him, is, like The browns have great, corners, right
but was there were there things in that game that
other teams can? Go, okay maybe we don't have these
specific personnel The browns, do but we can apply some

(02:05:59):
concepts what we have so that in so much.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
More Xavier's december schedule for The Big east not. Great
no home games Against creighton And yukon while the students aren't.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
There so that's a big deal in college.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Athletics enormous ahole, atmospheres especially especially That Senttas. Center THAT'S
i mean that that's a tough opening slate in The Big.
East do we know Who xavier's best player is gonna
know this?

Speaker 4 (02:06:22):
Year? Like does? Know my guess is.

Speaker 5 (02:06:25):
NO I.

Speaker 4 (02:06:28):
I Think Richard patino long term is going to work.
OUT i am having a hard time finding anybody who
is that optimistic About xavier's team this.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
Season, yeah we asked earlier who who comes up with
who determines the? Schedule is that The Big East conference
as a, whole, well is their input from the schools at?

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
All there's input from the, schools there's input from THE
tv partners in The Big. East they have a couple
of teams that SHARE nba arenas and so you have
to work around THE nba. Schedule marquette's one of. Them,
Uh Saint john's obviously is one of. Them villanova has
games that are played at The philadelphia seventy Six Ers.
Arena so that's a. Consideration but what gets me is

(02:07:05):
how long this? Takes? Now, YEAH i mean WE'RE uc,
fans no waiting Mid. September we have the non league,
schedule we don't have the conference. Schedule but, Yeah december
is gonna Be it's gonna be. Tough and then you,
consider Like Richard patino is gonna have to spend by
his own, ADMISSION i heard him say this on his
show last. Week the first six seven weeks of the
season figuring out his team and then oh, boy here

(02:07:28):
we go without the students at The Cintas. Center good
teams in The Big.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
East Jalen carter is not going to be suspended for
an additional game because he essentially didn't play in the
open or do you have any problem with?

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
That how much SHOULD i ignore his? BACKGROUND i mean
that's a big part in. It how much SHOULD i
ignore his background before he was? Drafted? Right? Like this
strikes me as not a good? Guy, Correct so when
not a good guy gets the book thrown at, HIM
i have a hard time feeling sorry for. Him is

(02:07:57):
there A is there a standardized? Punishment, see this is
the problem WITH i think you could apply this to
all the, sports but there's no specific, criteria and it
always feels Like Roger goodell in THE nfl are making
it up as they go, along where it would be
unsurprising if something like that happened, again if the suspension

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was like three.

Speaker 3 (02:08:20):
GAMES i just hope we don't have to like set
a precedent for people spitting on.

Speaker 4 (02:08:24):
People you AND i were doing an unplugged show AND
i said to, you in our broken social construct where
we can't agree on, ANYTHING i feel like the one,
thing the one piece of common ground we all have
is if you spit on, somebody you deserve to have
your ass. Kicked what is remarkable to me is that

(02:08:45):
in AN nfl, game even early in THE nfl, game
in AN nfl, game one guy spit on the other
and nothing. Happened that is one of the most remarkable
THINGS i have ever. SEEN i mean like IT'S i
feel like that's the one thing we could all agree,
On like there are not spit on somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:09:04):
Else the thing happened in the college game where it happened, Either,
no there's people are strongly, Dislike, YEAH i don't know
That i'd spit on that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
Part in, FACT i wouldn't spit on that. Person, no,
maybe yeah, him name Him. Austin do you got, no
just spit On, nope not gonna stay on the. Air
there's a certain love of people THAT i just don't.

Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
Respect THOUGH i don't, Know i've never it's never crossed
my mind to spit on.

Speaker 3 (02:09:29):
Somebody, yeah it happen't for me either until. Recently you
don't get AN ap top twenty five, vote do? You
i'm not on The Associated. Press if you, do should You,
lord help us just have fun with?

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
It should this girl be getting a lot of the
pushbacks she's. Getting, no these votes this early in the
season mean. Nothing the ap top twenty five needs.

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
Nothing the idea of, right we might as we might
as well do the since he three sixty top twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:09:50):
Five but the idea of not Ranking South florida and
Moving florida up is. Bizarre it's. Bizarre but when you
cast Your heisman, vote do you do it just to have?

Speaker 4 (02:09:59):
Fun? NO i take it seriously BECAUSE i think IT'S
i think there's a certain amount of responsibility you have with.
THAT i take. IT i spend like from late to
Late september to WHEN i cast the vote in Early,
december like every, week here are my Top?

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
Thine are we the only ones in this building that
Have heisman?

Speaker 4 (02:10:18):
VOTES i think. SO i think we're only two a
handful of people in the. City, Yeah rocky doesn't have.
ONE i don't. KNOW i don't. Know he. MAY i
mean it's a he would he would deserve. One, yeah
when you are given a, vote you are allowed to
apply your own. Criteria people get mad at Like hall
Of fame. Voters he should have his ballot taken. Away,
no because he put a ballot that you may disagree

(02:10:42):
with and doesn't make any sense to. You he has
earned that. Vote it's he is allowed to apply or
she allowed to apply whatever criteria they, wish and the same.
APPLIES i disagree with her, LOGIC i disagree with what
she chose to, do but nor her vote shouldn't be
TAKEN i like the, transparency like the. Rationale we don't
always get that in such.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
Matters it's better than the person who never owned up
to not Putting Ken Griffy junior on their. Ballot three,
PEOPLE i, believe, Right, yeah three.

Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
HOURS i mean like idiots to, me like you have the,
vote explain yourself and you know chances are a log Go,
okay well that's kind of, stupid BUT i appreciate you
sharing your rationale AND i appreciate that in This but
THE Ap top twenty five poll has never meant. Less
we actually have a committee that chooses who makes the,

(02:11:31):
playoff and there's more teams in it than ever.

Speaker 3 (02:11:33):
Before, yeah so THE Ap top twenty five is totally.
Pointless and we switched to that ranking In. November, yeah
those rankings go. Away it never mattered. Less it used
to matter a.

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
Lot it used to matter a whole lot when the
writers chose who the national champion. Was the, writers thankfully
don't have that power. Anymore so why do we care so?

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Much let me finish this the way we started. It
give me the higher Total Hayes Steer ellie total home
runs by the end of the. Year, OKAY u see
points On. Saturday you see points On. Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
Okay So North Northwestern state kind of had to rebuild
their program from. Scratch at the end of the twenty
twenty three, season they canceled their last seven games that
a player gets shot and, killed, unfortunately and so because
of that they canceled the rest of the. Season last,
year starting from, scratch they went oh to. Twelve they
Beat Alcren state in their first game this, year and In,

(02:12:30):
louisiana where that school is. Located that triggered a huge,
celebration and deservedly. So they hadn't won a football game
since twenty twenty. Two they came back from that by
getting beat sixty six nothing By minnesota in a game
that wasn't. Complete minnesota scored seven points in the second
half in a game that wasn't. COMPLETED i don't know
how good The bearcats are going to. Be this is
one of the youngest teams in the country coming To Nippert.

(02:12:51):
Stadium cincinnati should win by nine. Times they put up
Sixty are they safe on that home run turtle? Total
so you're gonna get nine more cone seventeen games to
go for those three guys to combine for nine home. Runs,
YEP i like The.

Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
Bearcats love.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
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Speaker 4 (02:13:11):
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