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October 1, 2025 • 24 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
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Speaker 5 (00:18):
Sy three sex days, play.

Speaker 6 (00:24):
At tacks on your screen and trying not to sanitize you.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Come on, you're riding high right now. We just talked
to your men of the Norse. The Mighty Norse are
in the building, and that to me is a calming present.
They're getting ready to go on with Willie after that. Yeah,
I mean, good for the nurse. Good nurse, and you
know people can start paying attention. I wasn't joking when
I told you death taxes Darren Horne in March. Yep.
It goes January February Nourse, yep. And they will be

(00:52):
the best of the three.

Speaker 7 (00:53):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
By the way, in the area, today's talkbacks thanks to
our friends at Sincy Shirts. You know they collab rated
Austin with not only Skyland but Greaters. Now I saw this.
There's the re release coming up of the Skyline ice
cream coming up. It's today, man, Today, They've got the
coolest bowl of Chile in town, available at Sincy Shirts

(01:14):
locations as well as local Kroger stores. But here's the
deal with these Austin. Once they sell out, they're gone. Ooh,
so make sure you get the Sincy shirts as soon
as possible. Okay, wonderful. I might have to go across
the street to Greaters and get some of that skyline
Greaters so that I can eat it tonight during the
Reds game. Yea, because I feel like that might have

(01:36):
some special powers. We're gonna need something. Everything need something,
like Don King said, only in America.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Wow, bad business owners can win.

Speaker 8 (01:49):
Barely four out of every ten games a place is
nineteen ninety one and still make billions. Man, real life
is to steal it's good work. Can get it, boys,
Let's go Reds.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
Turn it around.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Come on, backs against the wall for the cockroaches. Oh boy, cockroaches.
Oh everybody, I know we're down right now. Let's circle
on the wagons. We got a lot of meat left
on the bone. It was a bad match up last night.
O hell, we scored five run.

Speaker 8 (02:18):
We needn't scored jack now dittly squat back in twenty twenty,
all right, and we had a cy young picture that year.

Speaker 9 (02:24):
All right, give one hundred and greas some slade, give
him some grace.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I'm gonna stand up top of the mountaintop. I'm gonna
screen West got reds or as Bret Soonter says, slick up,
bad matchup. I think it's gonna be a bad matchup
for the Dodgers tonight.

Speaker 10 (02:38):
Yep, well that was painful back to back days on
the same network, our local pro teams getting their tails
handed to him. Come on, man, Red, you know what
you gotta do. Now have to win too straight, Tony,
I think you need to have a Jim Morris moment.
For those who don't know, Jim Morris Major League Picture
had his debut at thirty five after some arm surgery.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Tone time to suit up being with me? Isn't that
the Did they make a movie about that? And that
called the Rookie? Might be? I'm pretty sure might be.

Speaker 9 (03:10):
Hey, but they're big dog jay way we do There
no reason we can't go in there.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
A big and dodgery.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
We got your big pictures, yip and ye and.

Speaker 11 (03:18):
Go be the one and done in the night you
are having tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Come on, gosh, man, thank you. Coach Holtz.

Speaker 10 (03:25):
There he is, Hey, fellas, it's finny.

Speaker 12 (03:28):
What a terrible game last night We got beat by
the human worm human turtle.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
What is that guy, Blake snow.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
That kind of looks like a math teacher in middle.

Speaker 12 (03:38):
School or something. Man, and he just made us look foolish. Man,
I'm tired of it. Why can't we just freaking shock
the world and win a game against a team gets
a good team?

Speaker 7 (03:48):
Man?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Who's to say we don't every.

Speaker 13 (03:51):
Team every every.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Since SA team just just sucks.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Hey, it's not over yet. My favorite tweet that I
saw last night from Nate Dotson, he said, Blake Snell
is rich. He doesn't have to look like that if
he doesn't want to.

Speaker 14 (04:06):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh, the life of a Cincinnati sports fan.

Speaker 15 (04:25):
Stronger. My expectation all year with the Reds is they
were going to be battling for last place. The fact
that they even went to the playoffs I think as
a victory in a successful season. I know some say,

(04:48):
you know, unless you win the World Series, it's really
not successful. I say, bowl crap. Okay, So my question
today with elimination day possibly, why is ass Craft not pitching?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
He probably will pitch Jim and it is a failure
of a season if they don't advance in the postseason. Yes,
are you watching this Tigers game? I've not turned it
on yet. Guardians Tigers top one, Detroit puts two on,
nobody out Tanner Biby then strikes out the next three
man changes the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
No, this is the President formally known as Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 14 (05:28):
You can call me.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Prince now, dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to
talk about playoff baseball. Last night's raspberry beret is behind us.
Let's get this little Red's Corvette in gear. Oh and
let's go crazy on those Dodgers and party like it's
nineteen ninety five. If not, doves won't be the only

(05:50):
thing crying.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Ryan.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Now you know Austin that those are print songs, right sure, Okay.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Triple Bugady Bengals, we all know they have issues, need fixed.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
QB.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
What about Josh Dibbs with these athletic aplody pastronauts, he
would have to run for his life, and he's capable
with our lackluster O line. Red's in a double boogety situation.
Let's go Red Legs, crack them up.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Let's come Hey, guys, Marcus from the groove, bad bad, bad,
bad night last night, you gotta come back tonight and
you know, I don't care about.

Speaker 13 (06:37):
The full day's rest.

Speaker 16 (06:38):
This at the postseason. You cannot let your season die
on the shoulders of Zack Lytel. You need to throw
abvid tonight in a must win game.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's not that hard season on the line, Zach Lyttel,
Zach Taylor. I'm riding with our guy, hotel Man. Let's go.

Speaker 17 (07:02):
Yeah, this say is coach Zach Taylor. Shout out to
Day too, who Day Nation. I was trying to get
my call in yesterday, but I guess I didn't get
it in in time. You know, I was hoping to
be a little bit more prepared for this talk back
here today, but I guess I go ahead and just
wing it. Didn't really have a backup plan anyway. The

(07:22):
guys play their butts off. We're gonna fight like hectic
sweep to get better. And well, I'm just proud of them.

Speaker 18 (07:28):
Who they a And that game was embarrassing last night.
That was that was that was hard to watch. But
deep down we all know how to know what was
going to happen. I mean, they're clear, they're just out matched.
You watch the other three games, they are all great games.
These other teams are very good. You can tell there's
one team that just doesn't belong there, and it's the Reds.
And I'll tell you who else has to be thoroughly
embarrassed by watching last night was the Mets. They have

(07:49):
to be thinking how did we let this happen? And
that Dodgers bullpen sucks. So I can't give the Reds
credit for walking and not swinging at balls two feet
out of the zone.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah you can. Yeah, you can then get credit for that.
You can give him credit for scoring runs on bad pitchers, yep.

Speaker 19 (08:07):
Yeah, he should have pinch hit. Pinch hit South Stewart,
agree on agree one percent, Stevenson. All three of them
pitchers pitches were balls, no doubt about it. It's okay
to walk a run in the Bengals defense against the
Lions offense. That I mean, that's that's scarier than than Halloween.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Amen, brother, Amen.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
I had no disrespect from Mike from Cincinnati, I mean LA.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
But I think you've been out in LA a little
too long there.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Brother.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
I don't know what you're all smoking, but you got
good stuff. If you're gonna come on here since he
three sixty and try to spin it where not every
player on the Dodgers a billion dollar player and they
still got power.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
And come on, man, the first five batters and you're lining.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Up made a hundred and seventy million started lineup last
night and Hunter Green Cambin only made thirty Man.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Good point, man.

Speaker 8 (09:07):
Also, it's time to be a little honest about the Bengals.
There are maybe maybe ten guys on this roster that
are any good and that would start on a real contender.
So and I'm not saying they're gonna need, you know,
a complete rebuild, because they're never gonna be in a
complete rebuild when you've got one of the top five quarterbacks.
But they definitely need some kind of mini overhaul because

(09:29):
seventy five to eighty percent of this roster is not
any good. So they need to figure it out. Trade trade, trade,
t get what you can get.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
A lot of moves.

Speaker 20 (09:39):
Just DJ, DJ, you have a good question at the
beginning of the show, what should the Bengals do? Stand
pat add or start to trade off assets. Because of
their record, they won't start trading off assets yet. It's
gonna have to get a lot worse. But I think
based on the I test, the coach and everything else,
I think wholesale che are necessary and that's the direction

(10:03):
they should go. It's a shame it just won't happen
in time till everything falls apart.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, I just I'm curious, Austin, how many weeks of
what we've had to watch the last couple of weeks
would be enough. I hate to tee off on you,
mic from Sincy, but you left some low hanging fruit
there for me making that comment. On here, brother, I
can't just sit back on my laurels and rest.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Come on, Sincy three to sixty and dogs all like that.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
We'll see you tonight, though. Come on, we got game two.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Hashi Moto's going down?

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Or Ya'm a Moto or you know what?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Hello Moto, Oh, hello Moto, Hello Moto, Hello Moto.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Hey fellas, it's Adam And look, the Bengals are not
going to win another game this season with any quarterback
currently on their roster.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I wanted to take the chance to just say, Tony,
what a heck of a job you did calling that
game on Sunday, And Austin, if you could call a game,
what would it be? What would be your strengths? I
could see you doing a Reds game or maybe the
Masters or the Open.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
What do you think, Yeah, definitely baseball baseball. I think
would be would be my best by far. Quick double dip.
Mike has still butt hurt.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
His dad got fired by the Browns sixty five years ago.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
He's not firing anybody. I don't know if that's true.
I mean, I think they came pretty close to firing
Zach in twenty nineteen. And if you remember, Marvin Lewis
signed a contract extension going into the twenty eighteen season
and then got fired after the twenty eighteen season. Hey, guys,
throw in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Are you guys talking about how lacking in skills that
a lot of our players have on the Bengals, especially
the offensive line. Maybe true, but what is also very
true is that these guys are undisciplined, unmotivated, and poorly coached,
and that rests solely on the shoulders of the coaching.

Speaker 21 (12:08):
Yes, that's fair. Thanks, that part is fair. You got
no problem with that. I've been a fan of my
whole life, guys, sixty years old. I've seen it all,
but this episode here in the last few years. I'm
not even embarrassed.

Speaker 13 (12:21):
No, more.

Speaker 21 (12:21):
I'm just flat out pissed. That's this organization doesn't care
about winning, doesn't care about the fans. What we think
They're gonna sit back and do nothing yet again and
expect the fans to keep showing up and shelling out
and supporting.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
No, enough is enough. Something's got to be done about this.
Something's got to be done. The hard part here for
me is I don't know if he's talking about the
Bengals or the Reds. I know, I know, I don't
know that you could. I don't know that all those
are applicable to the Bengals. I do think the Bengals
have put forth effort, more effort than the Reds have. Yeah,

(12:56):
neither one have worked.

Speaker 13 (12:57):
What up, boys, Craig and the Creek Gonna keep it
positive after a rough couple of days. Good to see
McClain have a night after all the hate and veteran
move by Frankcona. If they playing for Littel, you pull him,
put in Lodolo. If they call your bluff and playing
for Lodolo, you just keep rolling with Litzel. And uh
is the US hurting to field a fencing team or something?

(13:21):
It is so bizarre the amount of ads for such
a weird sport.

Speaker 11 (13:29):
After witnessing that uh whatever it was on Monday night football,
flying him from Denver last night watching the Reds games,
just man, one thing after another.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Mm hmm. Here on the weekend we had big win.

Speaker 11 (13:49):
By the Bearcats, Reds getting into the postseason, and then
back to reality.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, that's I think. What was the hardest part of
Austin is the reality that sets in quickly when when
they score so quick last night that well that was
fun getting here.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
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Speaker 14 (14:41):
Thanks you, fairy T fifteen Audi A my healthy What
up Doe? The Bengals are the misfit toys of the NFL.
We got Linman who can't block, corners who can't cover
man de Man, safeties who can't stop the d ball,
a coach that doesn't know how to scheme in, the

(15:01):
owner that's still talking about going.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
To the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty nine. No vision,
that's it.

Speaker 22 (15:10):
I'm mo, hey, guys, how many more losses like the
last two do you think the Bengals have before Zach
Taylor completely loses the locker room and the guys no
longer want to play with him, that they would rather
consider themselves healthy scratches than to go out there with
his game plan.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Thanks. The current state of the locker room is my
biggest concern right now going forward. I don't know that
we're at that point. Somebody tried to say that today.
You know, when does Jamar Chase start, you know, pointing
of a hamstring injury. This dude's got their money, So
I don't know that they're That sort of flat out
rebellion from the leaders is going to happen. I don't

(15:46):
anticipate that, but I do think it's worth being concerned
about the overall state of the locker room. My goodness,
what was that TV in here just turned off? I
heard somebody's phone going off when the Yeahan Norris, we're
in here. Professional phones were going off and it was
not anyone from the Norse. I know, I know lights
were going on and off in here. Austin Tony is

(16:10):
he in here.

Speaker 23 (16:12):
Sending in another because yesterday was two filled. But I'm
really wondering are they trying to lose on purpose because
they just want a high rated first round pick for free,
like they won't spend money on the line to protect Burrow.
I mean, the blood is all over the hands.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's so ridiculous. Emotions are high still, man, after a
Monday night. Let me tell you this, there are people
Austin that need the Reds to win tonight because if not,
you go down a dark path.

Speaker 9 (16:46):
Yeah, my next game, managing a big league team movie
my first. But I'm still trying to figure out why
Tito puts South Stewart in for Austin Hayes instead of
Kee Brian Hayes. But today's another day's baseball. You turn
the page, win or go home tonight. Let's get them boys,
Come on, come on, let's go. I said Ashcraft when

(17:08):
I met Andrew Abbott.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Ah, it makes more sense, like I think our best pitcher,
that makes more sense.

Speaker 24 (17:15):
Ago it was gonna push back just a little bit
on it's a failure of a season as they don't advance.
I think you're allowed to relitigate based on what we've
seen we know our offense is dog you know what,
and their first rounds against the Dodgers, who have probably
the best lineup.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
In all of baseball.

Speaker 24 (17:36):
I want an advance, but I think I can call
it a successful season that they went to the playoffs
for the first time in what fifteen years?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, No, first time in five years. First and foremost.
Second of all, they in the offseason acquired Gavin Lux,
They acquired Brady Singer. They made moves at the trade
deadline to get Zach Lettel, to get Miguel andhar They
spent a pretty decent amount of money, and they spend
a whole lot of money on Terry Francona to get

(18:03):
them back to the playoffs. And for me, the standard
is always going to be more than just show up
in the playoffs. It's going to be advanced in the playoffs.
No team in North American professional sports has a playoff
victory drought longer than the Cincinnati Reds. That is embarrassing
and the organization should have a much higher standard than that. Yeah,

(18:24):
the conversation around the Reds cannot be well, they made
the playoffs that successful. The conversation needs to be if
they don't win tonight or tomorrow, the conversation turns to, Okay,
they took a step forward, but that should be the
jumping off point as to want to get this year
in and year out. What are they going to do
going forward? Because to me can't settle. No, it's a

(18:46):
step forward. Is it a success Austin if you finish
over your last eighty games at forty and forty?

Speaker 5 (18:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right without and I get that you play two different
things and what you're the hand that you're doing else
the Mets collapsed. It wasn't like the Reds won and
you know they won twenty three out of thirty to
get in. They were five hundred over the last eighty games.
Now again, have they shown resiliency? Absolutely? Is it a

(19:14):
step forward to get there? One hundred percent? But are
you looking back on this year as a success if
they don't make the playoffs next year?

Speaker 23 (19:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
No, The twenty twenty five season is not remembered by
the surge of the Reds. It's remembered by the collapse
of the Mets.

Speaker 23 (19:30):
Our season hopes rest literally in the hands of Zach
Lttell he Lettell.

Speaker 15 (19:39):
Will we trust?

Speaker 9 (19:41):
Come on, Zach Zachy Stevenson swinging at bad pitches. Have
you seen the balls the strikes called this year?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Fair point?

Speaker 9 (19:47):
It's Jack's are better trips to win when you stand
in the box.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Gotta protect go reds? All right, don That guy was funny.

Speaker 25 (19:56):
I can imagine Austin Elmore as a color analyst on
a baseball game and there's a line drives the right
field that'll get down and score two.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Austin chimes in, Yeah, this team sucks.

Speaker 14 (20:06):
The general manager sucks, the whole team sucks, the whole organization.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Get him out of there, get a new picture in.
He can suck too. I don't think I say that
very often. I don't think I say people suck. Somebody
text me not on the air, at least during the
first segment today, and asked me if I knew what
Nick Krawl's middle name was, and they said, makes my skin.

(20:32):
I fielded a phone call last night from my father, Oh,
and it was the first time we've spoken since the Monday,
and he proceeded to tell me about a laundry list
of people that he thought were bums. Odie Ton just

(20:53):
gotta leaving a talk back here. I hope you're having
a good day.

Speaker 25 (20:56):
It's a tough day to have a good day as
a Cincinnati sports fan.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
But what are you gonna do?

Speaker 25 (21:01):
Hey, he was on Jack Browning's bandwagon right off jump.
I thought he could get the job done. He has
proven me to be absolutely insanely and terribly wrong. The
dude is hot soupy dog water.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Whoa man just can't use them as qv one hot
soupy dog water. Let me ask you one question about you.
People ask you a lot about payroll, payroll, payroll. How
much do you put in? Like the Yankees right now
three hundred million payroll. The Dodgers are at three point fifty.
Second in baseball is the Mets at three forty two?

(21:38):
The Brewers have a lower payroll in the Red. The
Brewers have a lower payroll in the Red. So to
push back and say, well, it's all about payroll. I
pushed back a little bit on that. It gives you opportunities.
But to your point about this season storyline is more
about the Mets collapsing than what the Reds went and took.
It's because the Mets spent two hundred or three hundred
and forty two million dollars on their team. Correct, That's

(21:59):
why it was like if you look back to last year.
Last year was a fun story because the Tigers were
like middle of the pack in terms of spending and
they had this young, scrappy team that went on a
run and got into the postseason and made a little
bit of noise. And this year it's been the opposite.
They collapsed and it was the young, scrappy Cleveland Guardians

(22:22):
that found their way to go on a run and
get into the playoffs. In the National League, it was
the Mets. Are being paid a lot of money and
they fell apart since June thirteenth, and the Reds were
just there to accept the gift. And it's not about
the surge of a young Reds team with Terry Francona
correct and now internationally the national conversation has started zero

(22:44):
in on some of the questionable decisions made by Terry Francona,
and I think there's a difficult balance between the gut
and the analytics, and Francona has made a lot of
hay with his gut. I just don't no. When he
was in Boston, he had some unbelievable players, Pedro Martinez,

(23:09):
David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, Kurt shilling. Yeah, unbelievable players that
he could turn to. They don't have that here, and
that concerns me about, you know, just his style of
managing and trusting in guys a little bit more maybe
than he should, or not trusting in a young guy

(23:30):
more as much as he should. And I hope that
changes tonight, and I hope I feel a little bit
more urgency than I saw last night. Yeah, we're done.
That's our talkbacks. Yeah, football in the NATTI coming up
next on the Home of the Bengals. It's ESBN fifteen thirty,
Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends, our good friends
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Speaker 4 (23:53):
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