Offensive Line Expert Brandon Thorn Breaks Down Bengals' 2024 OL

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your podcast. Without further ado,let's get to Jake and me talking with
Brandon Thorn from Trench Warfare about allthings Bengals offensive line. Brandon, let's

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start with the newest additions to theBengals offensive line, those being the draft
picks, of course, and aMarius Men's the most high profile of those
you scouted offensive linemen for the draftfor Bleacher Report. To me, a
Marius Men's looks like a player that'sgoing to be a good pass protector,
has some work to do in therun game. Is inexperienced, obviously,

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but there's a lot of folks thatare calling him a high bust risk because
of that inexperience. What were yourthoughts on a Marius Men's as a prospect
and do you see a big bustrisk with that inexperience. Yeah, I
mean, I guess you have toput it in into context. You know,
there's always a bus risks with prettymuch everybody, and you know,

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especially when you don't have a lotof film to go off of, I
think that generally increases. So Ido think that there's probably a fair you
know risk here. You know,it's not the reason why it's not super
high, considering he's only played youknow, seven or eight games or whatever
it was for me at least,is because well, first of all,

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you know, like the physical traitsand all that. I think everybody knows
about just kind of how he looks, how how big he is, how
he carries it most importantly, andjust how he moves all that stuff.
Yeah, But also I think thething that really separates him to me was,
for a guy being as inexperienced ashe was, I didn't see a

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lot, if really any glaring badhabits in his game or like a ton
of rawness specifically in past protection,like you touched on at the top,
you know, being like a goodpass protector, maybe a little bit less
as a rum blocker. That's kindof how I saw it too, because
he just has like natural pass protectingmovement skills you know that I think are

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pretty special, you know, becausegenerally, like it's very difficult to you
know, learn nuances of pass protectionin terms of body positioning and set points
and you know, hand placement,strike timing, all these things you know,
when you're operating in space usually taketime because it's very unnatural and things
like that. But for him,it just looked like it was pretty natural

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and with all those physical traits,like I would love to you know,
and I would have loved to havelike bet on that guy more than other
guys with similar backgrounds that haven't playeda lot. So that's why I was
you know, pretty high on him, you know with my grade and my
my evaluation and things like that.I do think the run game will you

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know, probably be a little rockyearly on. Just that's where I think
he needs the most work. He'svery raw there. But past protection,
man, I just think he couldHe could probably play right away and like
do well there, and I thinkhis floor is pretty high in that regard.
Brandon from a fit standpoint, isthis the ideal fit given what you

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just said, because I think weall called him a risk going into the
draft, but it's a past firstteam. They're gonna want to throw it
a lot. And I know thereare some that want the Bengals to run
it more, but they know whatthey are and they're going to drop back
and they're going to throw it aroundwith Joe Burrow. And so if he
can be a quality pass protector,it's it's better than what they've had at
right tackle over the past few years, for sure. But it does feel

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like his floor might be a littlehigher and the risk is a little less
because of where he ended up.Yeah, I agree with that totally.
I really think this is close tothe ideal fit. I mean, like
I think this, and Philly obviouslywas a really good fit somewhere. Some
are basically where you have a veteranled offensive line room with proven, like

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quality starters at tackle that he couldlearn from and kind of get groomed under.
I think that those were the idealsituations, and there's not a whole
lot of those, so, youknow, aside from Philly, I think
Cincinnati is one of those places thatnot only offers that, but they offer
specific body types that are very uniqueacross the NFL at tackle, with Orlando

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Brown and Trent Brown both six seven, six eight three forty three fifty plus
sort of guys that you know,some teams have one of those, like
Philly has my lotta you know,so that would have been kind of a
cool guy to learn from and hecould pick some stuff up from, you
know, but since he has twoof those guys that he can learn from

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that kind of you know, looklike him size wise, you know,
they're also very different guys. They'renot just guys that look similar size wise,
but they play very differently. Theyhave different skill sets, you know,
Orlando and Trent Brown. That is, so he can you know kind
of pick, you know, pickand choose different l elements of their game,

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I think, and I just thinkit's such a cool fit for him,
you know, because he doesn't haveto play right away and he has
these two guys to learn from,And yeah, I mean, I just
I don't think it could have gottenmuch better than this is in terms of
a landing spot from them's I thinkin terms of where his strengths are.
That's a big part of why itfeels like a good fit, just that

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good pass protector. We talked aboutthe you talked about the rare footwork.
Where's the development for him as apass protector, because it seems like some
of the things that you would expectto be issues for a player with an
experience at like bad footwork, badhand placement, you know, lack of
awareness for various threats with twists andstunts and knowing where he should be in

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pass protection. Those don't show upa ton for him. Every now and
then you see him overset or getbeat across his face. But when you
think about areas for improvement for himas a pass protector, where is he
in need of some time to cookand be NFL ready and pass I think
it's the typical kind of ways thatmost young past protectors need to improve on,

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and you just really hit it,I think. And that's not over
setting guys, and really you overseettypically because you're being set up to,
you know, through stutters, hesitations, you know, especially in one on
one situations where you don't have anysort of formational help or schematic help,
you know, and you're kind ofoperating in those situations, true dropback type

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of situations, and you have toyou know, get to your spot and
not be manipulated by the edge rusher. And when you're facing the high level
edge rushers who really know how tomanipulate guys out of position, just having
the discipline and the discipline to staysquare, patient, not drift, you
know, and just get you haveto have really good spatial awareness and usually

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that takes a lot of time toreally hone in on and develop. So
that's for pretty much all guys though, and even savvy veteran, the high
level pro bowl veterans, I mean, they get manipulated and drifted out of
position too against the real high leveled rusher. So but I think that's
really it. It's just getting morecomfortable in space and pass protection in those
sorts of situations. Uh, andjust having the discipline and the you know,

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in in your body positioning, inyour relationship to the rusher throughout those
you know, those those reps,and it's just going to take, you
know, for most guys usually justtakes time. Some guys are able to
incrementally improve, dramatically improve, andsome guys don't improve. But I think
based on where he is right now, he will you know, probably incrementally,

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if not dramatically improve over time.So but yeah, it really is.
You see it on tape. Hewould drift over set and get beat
across his face and that's going tobe more difficult to not do, you
know, in the NFL with thecaliber pass rushers you face. So that
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it his ability in past protection topotentially translate right away. A lot of

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Bengals fans I get wire frustrated thepast couple of years the rookies haven't contributed
a ton. You think, ifcalled upon and he doesn't have to start
right away, we know who's goingto start to tackle most likely with Trent
Brown in Orlando Brown Junior. Butdo you think he could contribute this year
and be there their starting right tackleif needed. Yeah, I think so,

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just based on you know, himand what he can do in past
protection and just the tools that hehas in past protection now and then some
of the you know, the movementsskills that he has and the natural anchor
and you know, I think ifyou're able to anchor in pass protection and
you have the size and the strengthand the technique to do that and you

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can play against power, I thinkthat will give you a really good floor
to kind of operate out of becauseI think most pass rushers they're going to
test you first with power, andif you can't stop that, it's going
to be a long day and you'reprobably not gonna last very long. So
that's really like step one in passprotection is because that's kind of the easiest

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way that pass rushers can beat you, and there that's typically how they want
to attack you. So I thinkhe does have a good natural anchor,
So you know, with that said, you know, you know, I
think that he could at least surviveagainst those guys and not just survive and
think he can do well and kindof let his athletic ability shine when guys

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go to speed and things like that. It's so yeah, I mean,
pass protection wise, I think hecould definitely play as a rookie. Like
I said, the run game stuffwill probably be you know, just rocky
you know at first, specifically likegetting fits on double teams and you know,
working in conjunction with guys on comboblocks and being you know, the

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timing element of it all footwork.You know he'll be able to you know,
get out on screens and you know, maybe cut off some linebackers at
the second level just because of hissize and his athletic ability. But it's
more of kind of the first levelstuff where you know he could be he
could be taken advantage of, youknow, get slipped off of blocks quickly
and things like that. So yeah, but I definitely think he could.

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He could play early and do prettywell. The tools are tantalizing in the
run game is just the mental aspect, the timing aspect, and and that's
where the inexperience to me really showsup. The Bengals did add Trent Brown
as well, and you reference thebody types and the ability to learn from

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these guys that are built similarly tohim physically in some ways height weight,
but in length actually is a bigfactor. Something else for a meends that
really shines as his recoverability with thatlength. Every now and then you see
him get beat across his space,but he just has those thirty six inch
arms and you can push you pastthe pocket. But anyway, where I
wanted to go with that question washow much in your experience you've talked to

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a lot of offensive linemen obviously throughyour work with Trench Warfare, through your
pre draft work and all the greatwork you do. How much are they
learning from their peers, from theirteammates technique lise versus. How much of
that is happening in the offseason?How much of that is happening from the
offensive line coach or the assistant offensiveline coach, Because we've heard Billy Anderson
talk about that there's not much timefor teaching technique in NFL practices, so

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obviously it has to happen somewhere.But is that a lot of player to
player stuff in your experience talking tothese guys. Yeah, I think it's
player to player and offseason is that'swhen you're going to learn technique. I
mean there's some programs, some coachingstaffs where you can learn more technique than
others. In the NFL, there'sa scale there, but I think it
skews heavily towards not a lot oftechnique. It's mostly scheme. You know,

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offensive line coaches are running game coordinatorsas well, and so they really
prioritize, you know, scheme heavily. So yeah, I mean, I
think he's going to be picking Orlandoand Trent Brown's brains, you know,
probably as much, if not more, for technique than the coach. You
know. And also I know he'sworking with Duke Mannyweather, and he's exposed

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to guys. You know, hewas exposed to guys in the draft process
just being around guys in and out, you know, all the pro guys
that Duke trains, So a lotof it is done there. So yeah,
there's a lot of like meeting ofthe minds, you know, with
players, and you know, youlook at schedules together, whether it's off

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season with guys on other teams oryou know your guys like with Orlando and
Trent, like okay, here's ourschedule, here's all the pass rushers were
facing you know, oh yeah,you f tape against him. You know
this many times that you faced off. How do you approach it? You
know, things like that, andthey dissect the rusher and what he likes
to do, how he'll attack you, and you know, so there'll be

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a lot of brainstorming I would imaginethere. And you know, I keep
coming back to especially Trent Brown tome, like, I think is a
really good guy to learn from inpast protection. I just have been a
big fan of Trent Brown and pastprotection in particular his whole career going back
to San Francisco. I just thinkhe's a really good past protector. And

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you know that that's a great guyfor for mims to learn from, you
know, in terms of taking advantageof his size, you know, and
and knowing how to do that sizeand length. And Trent Brown's like you
know, I know, I don'tthink he like tested well or anything like
that, but he moves really welland on the field in past protection,

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and so yeah, I think thatthat dynamic there is going to be really
cool to see what he can pickup from him and how much he learns
from him and stuff like that.It's a perfect segue too. Trent Brown
and discussed who we expect to bethe starting right tackle this year. You
mentioned the past protection. Obviously onpaper, that's what the Bengals want,

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is a past protecting offensive line.What does he bring to this offensive line
really high ceiling as a pass protector, I think more than anything. I
mean, when he's been on thefield throughout his career, he's always been
an above average at worst, pastprotector at times very good even dominant,
you know, stretches, you know, you can get that out of him

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still, I think. So,you know, the main thing with him
is the differentiator between him and OrlandoBrown. You know, I think skill
set wise, I think Trent Brownis a more skilled pass protector than Orlando
Brown. It's just Orlando Brown haskind of this trump card of he's abnormally

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durable, you know, and fora guy like Orlando bre like at his
size, to be as durable ashe is is just it's rare. So
that's why Orlando Brown is valued,know as much as he is, I
think, whereas Trent Brown, youknow, there's you know, he's in
and out of the lineup, youknow, and that's been his thing his
whole career. So that's what youhave to that's the give and take,

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right, So yeah, that's kindof how I would sum up Trent Brown.
And then also in the run game, you know, it's a little
bit more hit or miss there,but he has dominant stretches in the run
game as well, specifically like thefront side of why at outside zones,
you know, kicking out Van Manon a line of scrimmage and just creating
a massive lane behind him. Hecould do that at a very high level.

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He can also do some things onthe move in space and you know,
line up targets and just kind ofdelete them out of the picture.
So he has the ability to makean impact in the run game as well.
So he's just he's a really skilledplayer. It's just you're just not
exactly sure how how much you're gonnasee him on the field each season.
That's just kind of up and down. You talked about when he's going well,

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they're these flashes of dominus. Isthat mostly just related to how healthy
he is in your opinion, oris it something else that comes or goes
that leads to the dominant stretches versusthe above average stretches, as you said,
Yeah, I think it's I thinkpart of it is the durability and
things kind of degrading over the courseof the season. Also, when you

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just look at his skill set onfilm, I think, you know,
just you can poke holes in everybody'sgame, and I think in past protection
with him, the holes that youcan see or you know, being too
reliant sometimes on two hand strikes oroutside hand strikes and just losing quickly,
you know, guys timing up aswipe and getting him to the outside.

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You know, I think maybe wasit Trey Hendrickson or I don't know who
it was this past year that gavehim some trouble there, But you watch
him against Philly and Josh Sweat oneon one. Sweat got him a couple
of times in that game. Butman, I mean Trent Brown, if
he ever, you know, ifhe doesn't miss with his hands and he
forces guys to come into him andhe can get his hand on guys,

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I mean, he has like aresting play strength like he can it's commanding,
right, And he had dominant repsagainst Josh Swat that were really impressive,
and Sweat I think is kind ofsimilar to Trent Brown, Like he's
as skilled as anybody in the leaguealmost in terms of pass rusher, but
you know he's in and out ofthe lineup too. So but for for

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Trent to have sort of if youwatch that game, I think that's a
really good one to watch because hehas some you know, six seven eight
dominant reps against Josh Wet one onone you know, island true dropback type
of reps. And then he gotgot a couple of times where you know,
he gets swiped to the outside andwe'll lose. And I you know,
I think that there's uh, youknow, just a little bit of

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variants there and in his consistency andpass protection. You know, that's why
he's not Trent Brown or excuse me, Trum Williams or you know, Lane
Johnson or something like that. Butyeah, I mean I think overall when
you watch him, which you know, he's always on an island too,
Like he doesn't get a lot ofhelp in past protection throughout his career,
depending on the scheme and stuff likethat. So he's very comfortable being out

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there on an island. You don'tneed to scheme him too much help or
formational help or things like that.So that's another part that he brings,
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We've spent a lot of time talkingabout the tackles, and rightfully so,
but the Bengals offensive line as awhole, how do you feel about it

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going into it this year? Obviouslytalking about Ted Carris, Alex Kappa,
and Cordell Wolsen along with the bigtackles, and then Amarus Mims is kind
of the sixth man, But howdo you feel about this group as a
whole. Yeah, I mean Ireally like what they did to tackle to
bolster the depth with Mims. Now, you know, it's really nice to
have a third tackle rosters, sothat's that's a big jump. But you

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know, the interior, there's there'sjust no depth, you know, I
mean, at least proven depth.I mean, I guess just looking at
the depth chart on our lads,I mean, you know, Cody Ford
is your top you know, yeah, you know, if that's your top
depth guy, you know, Imean, you just don't really have much
depth. So, you know,I would say a lot of teams,

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most teams in the NFL don't havea lot of depth. So it's not
like the Bengals are you know,standing out here too much, you know,
But I just did a podcast recentlyon the Packers, and I mean,
like they have depth, you know, And but that's the Packers.
You know. There's certain teams inthe NFL that traditionally just you know,
put a lot of resources in theinto the position of offensive line and they

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have really good depth. But there'sfew and far between, and Cincinnati's just
kind of in that big glood ofteams that struggle with depth at some position,
either inside or outside. So yeah, aside from that, I mean,
starter wise, you know, thatTrio I think is fine, you
know. I mean, I mean, I like Alex Kappa a lot.

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He's the best player I think onthe interior, consistent, reliable, functional,
you know, above average elements tohis game. Just a good starter,
you know. I think that's whathe's been for forever now, you
know. So I don't really seetoo much changing there and what they've been
able to get out of Ted Carris, I think is it surprised me,

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you know, just based on whathe did in Miami and New England and
you know, he's always been youknow, I think a serviceable starter is
fair. You know, he hegets by. He can compete against most
competition, however, you know,the the top couple tiers. You know,
when he's one on one in situationsin the run game or the past

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game, like he's just you know, just kind of overmatched physically, I
think. But he can function reallywell, you know, within a scheme,
and he brings a lot to thetable in terms of versatility and then
just leadership and things like that.So he's kind of a consummate type of
pro And like there's a lot ofcenters that are like Ted Carris, you

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know, that have carved out nicecareers. So he's just one of those
guys who you could probably replace anygiven year. But you know, at
the end of camp, you justfind yourself, like, man, Ted
Carris won this job because he doesthe little things right and you know,
and that's just who he is.So I really have a lot of respect
for guys like that. But youknow, talent wise, you know,

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it's closer like midline, if notbelow average, and that limit you in
some ways. And then quota.Olsen is I think had an admirable you
know, first couple of seasons inthe NFL, considering his background where he
was drafted, things like that.But I do think, you know,
he's the fifth best starter on theoffensive line, you know, pretty much
without a question, and just limitedin terms of recovery skills I would say,

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in past protection, movement skills inthe run game, you know,
but he's big and strong. Youknow, guys struggle to go straight through
him, and he can hold thepoint of attack and you know, maintain
the line of scrimmage and things likethat kind of baseline stuff. But yeah,
I mean, you know, Iand I will say I don't know
that he is completely capped out either, just considering he's how early he is

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in his career. So, youknow, Roland, if he's your fifth
best starter on an offensive line,you're not doing too bad. I guess
that's probably the best way to sayit. You know, you could do
better, but you know you canalso do a lot worse. Trust me.
Just look at the depth charts inthe NFL. The two players you
talked about where there are some talentgaps between the top end. Of course,
court U Wolson and Ted Carris bothguys that the Bengals coaching staff loves

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in terms of their approach to practice, their approach to the game. Carris,
in particular, a major leader inthe locker room, a leader in
the city of Cincinnati where his sincehe Hat campaign took off and he had
sold out tattoo events for the sincehe had tattoos that he was doing,
so major personalities there. And youkind of answered the question as to whether

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or not you think there's some developmentfor Cordell. Volson left because turns twenty
six in July, going into histhird year. The Bengals didn't see fit
to bring in a challenge for Vulson. They believe in him. How much
upside do you think there is there? And where does that come from in
your opinion when you look at kindof where those limitations are. Yeah,

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I mean I can understand that approach, you know, considering where he was
drafted and how inexpensive he is.You know, like, let's try to
get the most we can out ofthis, you know kind of thing.
And I totally understand that. Imean, if you can, you know,
land a guy who can you know, be a functional starter where they
did in the draft, and youknow, a guy who you know still
you know, came from a smallerschool and still probably has some development left.

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I mean, like you know,why not. So yeah, I
totally get that approach. But interms of getting better, I just think,
really it's going to be heavily techniquereliant here because I think kind of
physically he is what he is,you know, in terms of being an
limited athlete, and maybe never aguy who's going to match up super well
with like the high end three techniquepass rushers and sub package guys and things

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like that, and you know,not not being super explosive and things like
that, but he has, youknow, I would say, solid play
strength and then the size to kindof back it up. And if you
can really improve technique and make theselittle adjustments with things like hand placement,

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strike timing, you know, withyour hands, and then also just general
timing snap timing, if you couldreally get good at anticipating the stapp and
getting off the ball quickly, youcan increase your play speed and sort of
mitigate your athletic ability or lack thereof, you know. So there's a lot
of different ways that guys who aren'tthe best athletes can become you know,

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long time starting guys in the NFL, And it just kind of remains to
be seen if he's gonna do that. I'm not like super convinced that he
will, but I also don't thinkthat it's out of the question either,
And considering what I said in termsof like salary cap implications and things like
that, like and the way thatthe offensive line is constructed around him,

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where he is the fifth best guy, so he's not like a guy who
needs to be featured heavily. He'snot your second best starter. If that
was the case, I'm sure theywould have brought somebody in. But if
you're the fifth best starter and you'recheap, and you're you know, young,
and you know, you're you're makingsome improvement here and there, like,
yeah, let's let's roll with it. So that's kind of how I

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see it, you know, AndI maybe that's how they think about it
a little bit. I don't know, but I understand not bringing in a
lot of competition. However, youwould like more depth still, you know,
just on the interior overall, Brandon, you mentioned depth, and it's
something during the draft, the Bengalshad ten picks and we were expecting them

(28:59):
to trade up a couple of times, and we certainly looked at the interior
offensive line depth of this class,like especially around four and five for the
Bengals, but even rounds three throughfive, and it's like, oh,
well, they're going to take aninterior alignment. Well they wait till round
seven. They get Matt Lee,someone who we thought would probably go earlier.
What should our listeners and viewers knowabout Matt Lee because we think he

(29:21):
has a shot to make the rosterdespite being a seventh rounder. Yeah,
yeah, I would agree there.I had a fourth round grade on him,
so you know, I thought,even for us, a fourth round
grade on our grading scale, isa potential role player slash contributor, so
kind of a guy who can comein, compete for a job and make
a roster you know. So yeah, to get that in the seventh I
think is good value. The thingthat hurts him is I don't know that

(29:45):
he's going to have that guard versatility, so that definitely will probably make it
more difficult to make the roster,you know, to carry the amount of
offensive line that you could carry ongame day and have a guy who's you
know, pigeon hold into a positionis difficult. So that's working against him.
However, the things that you do, like, I think it starts

(30:07):
really with play strength with him,and just I think he's coming from an
extremely well coached place in Miami interms of offensive line wise, technique wise,
specifically as a run blocker, andthen also in past protection. His
anchor is very reliable and sturdy.So if you're a center specifically who can

(30:27):
anchor really well, you know,that obviously is a huge plus against the
nose tackles and stuff that you're goingto face on the inside. And then
if you're a skilled run blocker whohas the strength to hold the point of
attack and to create movement and thingslike that, you know, then you
know, I think that that makesa lot of sense. And he comes

(30:48):
from a downhill sort of run schemeat Miami, and I think that's what
Cincinnati likes to do. So it'sa schematic match there, so that's working
in his favor. And then youlook at a guy like Ted Carris who
like everything we just talked about,you can. I don't know that you're
going to be competing for a jobwith Ted Carris because he has a lot

(31:10):
of skins on the wall, soto speak. You know, you're not
going to come in and probably uproothim. But in terms of a backup
role, there's not really a guythere that has anything proven, So,
you know, a backup center makingthe roster I think, you know,
would make some sense. He's reallygonna, I think, probably have to
clearly clear the bar of what Iguess Trey Hill is the top backup there.

(31:36):
Thing about Trey Hill is he hassome guard potential there just with his
size and things like that. Sothat's why I say I think he's going
to really have to be a lotbetter than Trey Hill, you know,
because I don't know that he's goingto have the versatility to match. So
it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, the backup center spot will be interesting
in Cincinnati. I receive Matt Leeas a future starter with that past protection

(31:56):
ability, the scheme fit that you'retalking about there, the athletic ability suggests
some upside still in the run game. I know he was too eighty eight
at the East West Rhine Bowl,but I think he played at a higher
weight. So I'm excited about MattLee. Everybody who listens to this podcast,
Oh was that. I'm still excitedabout Matt Lee, and I will
continue to be excited about Mattlee throughouttraining camp and the preseason until we see
him on the field, and that'llbe exciting as well. Brandon appreciate the

(32:20):
time and detail as always, greatinsight on these new additions to the Bengals
offensive line. You can find hiswork in the Trench Warfare newsletter. Great
stuff that I love to see.Has some tweets that I've mentioned on this
podcast. I think the Matt Leeanchoring cut up that you did I've mentioned
on this podcast before in my excitementfor Matt Lee. So Brandon appreciate the

(32:42):
time as always and the expertise onthis Bengals offensive line. Yeah. Absolutely,
It's a pleasure to do and thankyou for having me. It was
a lot of fun. Until nexttime, Bengals fans. That's going to
do it for this episode of theLockdown Bengals podcast. Thanks for listening.
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