October 1, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did someone say cat fight? Sorry, that's the first thing
that came into my mind. Let's move on Detroit. Rulls
into Cincinnati. They take on on. They loves Bengals. Will
the Orange and Black send the Lions back up I
seventy five with their tail between their legs? Catch the
goal live from Dann Word and Dave Lapham. Coverage starts
Sunday at twelve note stream for free are the new
(00:23):
and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official
home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
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powertrain protection and guaranteed.
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Credit approval from their family to.
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Yours for life, Kelsey chef dot com, Reds and Dodgers.
We can legitimately say today, must win for the Reds.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We don't have to debate it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nine oh eight Game two tonight, Zach Lettel, Yoshi Yamamoto
on the Hill. You'll hear the game live on seven
hundred WLW nine oh eight First pitch. The other games
Right now, Guardian and Tigers are playing in Cleveland. A
do or die game for Cleveland, do or die game
for the Guardians. That is one to one as they
(01:09):
head to the top of the eighth inning, padres a
one zip lead over the Cubs bottom two at Wrigley Field, Chicago,
leads that series one game to on Red Sox and
the Yankees to night game.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Two in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
A Bengals update, Zach Taylor today expressed confidence in Jake
Browning because apparently he didn't watch the game on Monday.
Paul Danner Junior is going to join us in just
a second Bengals game plan tonight from six to eight
on ESPN fifteen thirty. And if you did not watch
any of those shows on Cable Sports TV where they
scream at each other, you probably might You may have
(01:42):
missed the fact that Dylan Gabriel is going to start
at quarterback for the Browns this week and not shud
Or Sanders. Paul Danner Junior is typically with me here
at Oakley Greens on Tuesdays, but we're here on Wednesday.
Wednesday is a big work day for everybody connected with
the Bengals, including Paul, Theathletic Dot comcast and uh.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Somebody I enjoyed a beverage with in Denver. Paul's with us. Now,
how's it going?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
We did. You your spirits were much higher than I'm
gonna imagine that they have been since then when we
when we last chatted, after the Reds clinched.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, forol me once, shame on you, fool me twice?
Shame on me?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Is that the saying on Sunday night, I was with
the Bengals. I was operating with a blank slate. All right,
you know what, you laid an egg in Minnesota. No
biggie bunch of fluky stuff happened. It's been a tough
week or two. Even good teams sometimes don't show up cool.
I feel like a dope for feeling that way after
what I watched on Monday.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, you you were thinking, okay, bad games happen and
that was just a one one little blip and aberration. Instead,
it confirmed your worst fears that this is who they are,
This is who they're gonna be. They're gonna be lost,
they're gonna be competitive, they're gonna look clueless on offense
(03:03):
and defense and historical levels of ineptitude in terms of
being able to do really anything. And you just didn't.
You wanted to convince yourself otherwise, which is understandable. Like, look,
I saw what happened when Joe went down against Jacksonville.
They there they were, they were still plucky and competitive
(03:25):
and found a way to win a game, and all
of those things kept you thinking like, look, yeah, this
team they can hang in there, and they can they
can play at a five hundred level, and who knows
what things look like in December, And then you have
what's happened the last two weeks, and and you just
you don't know where to start. I don't know how
(03:46):
you look at it and say like, oh, yeah, this
is the team that you can see it here they're
close or with this, I don't know where you start
in terms of getting this thing back onto track right now,
because it just it made you feel like, oh no,
this is what the season's going to be.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I said this to you last week that I think
the most damning thing you could say about an athlete
or a collection of athletes is they quit. And a
lot of people went there after the Vikings game, and
I was reluctant to do that, in part because I
quit during that game and started to watch something else.
But I think that's a heavy accusation. I think the
worst thing you could say about a coach is that
(04:26):
his or her team isn't prepared for me. And I've
watched a lot of football in my life, man, I
think I know what an unprepared team looks like. That
was an unprepared team. I don't say that, knee jerk.
I don't say that because you know, Zach Taylor's low
hanging fruit right now. I don't know how you could
watch that game on Monday night and arrive at any
(04:48):
other conclusion. And you know, I care about play calling,
but not as much as others. I care about the
team being ready to play, and when it's not, there's
where I start to point the arrow at the head coach.
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah? No, I think that's fair. I mean the amount
of times where it's like, Okay, there's too many men
on the field, and then there's not enough and ones
running over there, and then when they're out there, they're
all confused and pointing, trying to figure out where to go.
And that was on the good side of the ball
on Monday night. You know, they're just you seems like
(05:23):
you have a script, but then it just goes They
kind of go away from it, and it's third and
manageable and you're just throwing jump balls to T Higgins
and it just feels like You're right, it feels disconnected.
It doesn't feel like there's any level of focus. You know,
the focus and the discipline stuff is stuff that now
(05:45):
in different ways. Through two weeks. It's all we've been
talking about the turnovers in Minnesota, right, what is that other? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
the other team. They made a few plays on it.
But I mean, you know, having those turnovers, the focus
and the discipline to avoid that, and then all of
the penal he's more penalties than first downs. What are
we doing? I mean that's where you come away and
(06:06):
you just say, okay, this is all coming back to
them not feeling ready, not feeling like they have the discipline,
and not feeling like they have the ability to go
out there and execute a game plan or be comfortable
in it. They look like the last two weeks, they
look like a team that lost their belief, that they
lost their guy, and they're playing like a team that
(06:28):
lost their guy that doesn't quite believe anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So you know, I've said to you in this you
mentioned the issues getting the eleven players on the field,
sometimes too many, sometimes not enough. And I've said to
you for years, I've said on this show for years,
I want to be the director of common Sense. And
for whatever reason, the Bengals had been reluctant to allow
me to do this. But I've come up with a
new role. I'm a big church festivals guy.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So this summer I took my daughter to Victory fest
and they had a fun house and there's only you know,
so many kids they allow in the funhouse at any
particular time, you know, fire hazard, safety hazard. So they
have a guy who has what looks like a ball
strike indicator, like counting the people in and counting the
people out. And I could stand next to Zach Taylor
(07:18):
and the coordinators and be the guy that does that
to make sure, okay, we're ten, we need one more,
or hey, twelve we need I'm thinking about running this
past the Bengals to see if I don't know what
the job title would be. I'm looking for some sideline
gear and I only want to work on game days.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Do you think they'll allow me to do this?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I like the idea. I think you could do it,
you know, just get do it from your seats, like
you know how in college they would hold up the
big signs that would have like four things on it.
One of them will be like a skyline chili. The
other one would be like you know, there's Gary Coleman
or whatever. It would be like always you do. You
hold it up and it's just just a thumbs up
(08:01):
you got eleven, or it's just the number ten or twelve,
or just a question mark or a man shrugging or something,
and you hold it up for them to be able
to see from your spot in the stands, and then
that way they can always they know, they can always
look up and you'll be letting them know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Do you believe they have at all?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I know what Zach said today publicly, but do you
believe they have at all started to revisit what they're
doing right now at quarterback?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know how you don't, And I think you know.
The question I posed today was was strictly like, look,
this is are you do you need to add something?
You need to add competition? And that wasn't even necessarily
going outside. Is that is that to give? I mean,
(08:49):
I don't, I don't can't believe we're at this point.
I'm going to say the sentence, do you give Brett
Rippen a part of this conversation. Do you talk about
Mike White you touch? I mean, do you do you
look at at a trade? I think yes, I think
very evaluating that because I don't know how many more
games like that you can legitimately watch and not do
(09:10):
something like even if you have years of belief in
Jake Browning and you believe in him as a guy,
whatever is happening now, whether it's on him, whether it's
on Zach Taylor, whether it's on whoever we're blaming for this,
whatever that is, it's not working, and you are flushing
a season purposely if you don't try. I mean, it's
(09:33):
as accessible as it can get right now. Mo. Baltimore
is falling apart. Pittsburgh gets whatever Pittsburgh's gonna be with
Aaron Rodgers. I mean that's flimsy at best. Cleveland is
whatever it is. I mean, you're sitting here, and if
you can just get this thing back on the tracks,
if it is as much as adding a quarterback, I
(09:54):
don't know how you don't, especially when it looks so
lost right now. They have belief in him. I believe
every word that was said about that today. They trust him.
Him working out is the ideal scenario here. That is
the best thing that could possibly happen. But I don't
know how you go through that and don't say, hey,
(10:16):
what are we doing. We can't just flush the season
down the drain. That's something that despite all the you
know a lot of things that are said about your
organization in terms of acquiring people and and and whatever
you want to say about their the way they do
things of personnel, they've it's usually been through the lens
(10:37):
of we want to give every season a full chance
to go win every game and be there in every
game no matter what, whether the season feels lost or
they're in it, and not be thinking about future years
and other stuff. Well, I don't know how you don't
go back to that right now. You can't just flush
(10:58):
this season and he oh, I don't know. It didn't
work out with Jake. We trotted them out there for
ten games and we had eighteen first downs total. Like,
you can't. You can't. It can't keep looking like it
has the last two weeks with the same problems. So yes,
I think they're reevaluating it. I think they're looking into
what those options are. I think you're also going to
(11:20):
see some wish for Jake Browning. I just you can
you can feel it getting tighter.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I watched cam Taylor Brick get benched on Monday, seen
that before.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I watched Geno's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Stick that up to what's that total up to? Now?
What are we up to? On? Is there? Do we
have a ratio in somewhere on Pro Football Reference dot
Com for games played to benchings that I can reference,
because I'm trying to figure out that number has to
exist right now? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So I watched him get benched for the third time.
I watched Geno Stone continue to take angles that defy
basic geometry when he tries to make a tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now, Jalen Rivers is a starting guard, so.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We've gone from Lucas Patrick to Dalton Reisner to Jalen
River So I'm I see some things that we talked
about them needing to fix back in March that are
cropping up as problems again in September.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I don't know, man, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Don't know how if you own the team, you don't
say to Duke Tobin, like, what did you do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
All off season? I mean it sounds harsh, but.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What is the answer for we're seeing some of the
same guys who were complicit in the team's demise last
year be complicit in their demise this year.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah. I mean these are you know, these are the
bets that were made that you know, this escapegoating that
happened of Luanna Rumo of it was just they're not
getting stopper. We we think that it'll be different in
a different scheme with a different coach at some point.
(13:01):
You I guess there's an element of give it time
to play out. Yeah, so much of it just feels
and looks the same. It's under a different coach or
different coaches if you're talking about the offensive line or
whatever you're talking about. Yeah, I there are everybody's hands
in this one, you know, everybody, everybody that is seeing
(13:22):
anytime a team looks as bad as this team has looked,
and every week is like, oh, what's the new historical
and aptitude stat We're gonna truck out this week two
weeks in a row now, Like when it's like that's
that's where it goes, and it should because it's this
has been obvious stuff and I don't you know, I
(13:44):
don't know where you go with that. Because we know
the setup your organizationally, but they're they're gonna hope that
the coaching over time will make it look better. But yeah,
this is the problems that we knew were problems are problems,
and here to cover up a lot of them. So
it makes them even more glaring than they already would
(14:06):
have been.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Don't you wish you were here for an hour's worth
of these questions?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I really don't, and I can't, and I can't believe,
and I can't believe that we've reached that that there's
still like three months left of this season that already
feels like what's the hope? Like when you were talking
about the church festival earlier, I thought you were going
to talk about bars and bells, because I kind of
think about this season like a lot of Bengals fans
(14:32):
are viewing the season like when they go to play
bars and bells at the church festivals. Like, Look, I'm
resigned to the fact that we're that this is going
to be a losing game, but hopefully a couple of
times I turn over two cherries and a bell or
three of something and I feel a moment of winning
and a moment of happiness. And then get to the
eventual losing of me, me losing all of my money here.
(14:54):
I felt like that's where we were going to go
because I feel like that's kind of where the season
feels like it's bad right now.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It does.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I have found a go go electronic tally counter
with a lanyard four digit LCD counter for nine to
ninety nine on eBay.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So yeah, I'll provide my own equipment.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, okay, you bring your own it. You bring your
own equipment. I'll be looking. I'll be looking for you
in the stands holding up the big the big number
eleven on the poster board.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there on Sunday, and
it's going to be fun.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Paul. Thanks very much, FMO.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Make sure you listen to Paul's podcast, The Growler. Where
you get your podcasts. Read him at the Athletic dot com.
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Did someone say cat fight? Sorry, that's the first thing
that came into my mind. Let's move on Detroit. Rulls
into Cincinnati. They take on on. They loves Bengals. Will
the Orange and Black send the Lions back up I
seventy five with their tail between their legs? Catch the
goal live from Dann Word and Dave Lapham. Coverage starts
Sunday at twelve note stream for free are the new
(00:23):
and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official
home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
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powertrain protection and guaranteed.
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Credit approval from their family to.
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Yours for life, Kelsey chef dot com, Reds and Dodgers.
We can legitimately say today, must win for the Reds.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We don't have to debate it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nine oh eight Game two tonight, Zach Lettel, Yoshi Yamamoto
on the Hill. You'll hear the game live on seven
hundred WLW nine oh eight First pitch. The other games
Right now, Guardian and Tigers are playing in Cleveland. A
do or die game for Cleveland, do or die game
for the Guardians. That is one to one as they
(01:09):
head to the top of the eighth inning, padres a
one zip lead over the Cubs bottom two at Wrigley Field, Chicago,
leads that series one game to on Red Sox and
the Yankees to night game.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Two in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
A Bengals update, Zach Taylor today expressed confidence in Jake
Browning because apparently he didn't watch the game on Monday.
Paul Danner Junior is going to join us in just
a second Bengals game plan tonight from six to eight
on ESPN fifteen thirty. And if you did not watch
any of those shows on Cable Sports TV where they
scream at each other, you probably might You may have
(01:42):
missed the fact that Dylan Gabriel is going to start
at quarterback for the Browns this week and not shud
Or Sanders. Paul Danner Junior is typically with me here
at Oakley Greens on Tuesdays, but we're here on Wednesday.
Wednesday is a big work day for everybody connected with
the Bengals, including Paul, Theathletic Dot comcast and uh.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Somebody I enjoyed a beverage with in Denver. Paul's with us. Now,
how's it going?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
We did. You your spirits were much higher than I'm
gonna imagine that they have been since then when we
when we last chatted, after the Reds clinched.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, forol me once, shame on you, fool me twice?
Shame on me?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Is that the saying on Sunday night, I was with
the Bengals. I was operating with a blank slate. All right,
you know what, you laid an egg in Minnesota. No
biggie bunch of fluky stuff happened. It's been a tough
week or two. Even good teams sometimes don't show up cool.
I feel like a dope for feeling that way after
what I watched on Monday.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, you you were thinking, okay, bad games happen and
that was just a one one little blip and aberration. Instead,
it confirmed your worst fears that this is who they are,
This is who they're gonna be. They're gonna be lost,
they're gonna be competitive, they're gonna look clueless on offense
(03:03):
and defense and historical levels of ineptitude in terms of
being able to do really anything. And you just didn't.
You wanted to convince yourself otherwise, which is understandable. Like, look,
I saw what happened when Joe went down against Jacksonville.
They there they were, they were still plucky and competitive
(03:25):
and found a way to win a game, and all
of those things kept you thinking like, look, yeah, this
team they can hang in there, and they can they
can play at a five hundred level, and who knows
what things look like in December, And then you have
what's happened the last two weeks, and and you just
you don't know where to start. I don't know how
(03:46):
you look at it and say like, oh, yeah, this
is the team that you can see it here they're
close or with this, I don't know where you start
in terms of getting this thing back onto track right now,
because it just it made you feel like, oh no,
this is what the season's going to be.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I said this to you last week that I think
the most damning thing you could say about an athlete
or a collection of athletes is they quit. And a
lot of people went there after the Vikings game, and
I was reluctant to do that, in part because I
quit during that game and started to watch something else.
But I think that's a heavy accusation. I think the
worst thing you could say about a coach is that
(04:26):
his or her team isn't prepared for me. And I've
watched a lot of football in my life, man, I
think I know what an unprepared team looks like. That
was an unprepared team. I don't say that, knee jerk.
I don't say that because you know, Zach Taylor's low
hanging fruit right now. I don't know how you could
watch that game on Monday night and arrive at any
(04:48):
other conclusion. And you know, I care about play calling,
but not as much as others. I care about the
team being ready to play, and when it's not, there's
where I start to point the arrow at the head coach.
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah? No, I think that's fair. I mean the amount
of times where it's like, Okay, there's too many men
on the field, and then there's not enough and ones
running over there, and then when they're out there, they're
all confused and pointing, trying to figure out where to go.
And that was on the good side of the ball
on Monday night. You know, they're just you seems like
(05:23):
you have a script, but then it just goes They
kind of go away from it, and it's third and
manageable and you're just throwing jump balls to T Higgins
and it just feels like You're right, it feels disconnected.
It doesn't feel like there's any level of focus. You know,
the focus and the discipline stuff is stuff that now
(05:45):
in different ways. Through two weeks. It's all we've been
talking about the turnovers in Minnesota, right, what is that other? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
the other team. They made a few plays on it.
But I mean, you know, having those turnovers, the focus
and the discipline to avoid that, and then all of
the penal he's more penalties than first downs. What are
we doing? I mean that's where you come away and
(06:06):
you just say, okay, this is all coming back to
them not feeling ready, not feeling like they have the discipline,
and not feeling like they have the ability to go
out there and execute a game plan or be comfortable
in it. They look like the last two weeks, they
look like a team that lost their belief, that they
lost their guy, and they're playing like a team that
(06:28):
lost their guy that doesn't quite believe anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So you know, I've said to you in this you
mentioned the issues getting the eleven players on the field,
sometimes too many, sometimes not enough. And I've said to
you for years, I've said on this show for years,
I want to be the director of common Sense. And
for whatever reason, the Bengals had been reluctant to allow
me to do this. But I've come up with a
new role. I'm a big church festivals guy.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So this summer I took my daughter to Victory fest
and they had a fun house and there's only you know,
so many kids they allow in the funhouse at any
particular time, you know, fire hazard, safety hazard. So they
have a guy who has what looks like a ball
strike indicator, like counting the people in and counting the
people out. And I could stand next to Zach Taylor
(07:18):
and the coordinators and be the guy that does that
to make sure, okay, we're ten, we need one more,
or hey, twelve we need I'm thinking about running this
past the Bengals to see if I don't know what
the job title would be. I'm looking for some sideline
gear and I only want to work on game days.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Do you think they'll allow me to do this?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I like the idea. I think you could do it,
you know, just get do it from your seats, like
you know how in college they would hold up the
big signs that would have like four things on it.
One of them will be like a skyline chili. The
other one would be like you know, there's Gary Coleman
or whatever. It would be like always you do. You
hold it up and it's just just a thumbs up
(08:01):
you got eleven, or it's just the number ten or twelve,
or just a question mark or a man shrugging or something,
and you hold it up for them to be able
to see from your spot in the stands, and then
that way they can always they know, they can always
look up and you'll be letting them know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Do you believe they have at all?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I know what Zach said today publicly, but do you
believe they have at all started to revisit what they're
doing right now at quarterback?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know how you don't, And I think you know.
The question I posed today was was strictly like, look,
this is are you do you need to add something?
You need to add competition? And that wasn't even necessarily
going outside. Is that is that to give? I mean,
(08:49):
I don't, I don't can't believe we're at this point.
I'm going to say the sentence, do you give Brett
Rippen a part of this conversation. Do you talk about
Mike White you touch? I mean, do you do you
look at at a trade? I think yes, I think
very evaluating that because I don't know how many more
games like that you can legitimately watch and not do
(09:10):
something like even if you have years of belief in
Jake Browning and you believe in him as a guy,
whatever is happening now, whether it's on him, whether it's
on Zach Taylor, whether it's on whoever we're blaming for this,
whatever that is, it's not working, and you are flushing
a season purposely if you don't try. I mean, it's
(09:33):
as accessible as it can get right now. Mo. Baltimore
is falling apart. Pittsburgh gets whatever Pittsburgh's gonna be with
Aaron Rodgers. I mean that's flimsy at best. Cleveland is
whatever it is. I mean, you're sitting here, and if
you can just get this thing back on the tracks,
if it is as much as adding a quarterback, I
(09:54):
don't know how you don't, especially when it looks so
lost right now. They have belief in him. I believe
every word that was said about that today. They trust him.
Him working out is the ideal scenario here. That is
the best thing that could possibly happen. But I don't
know how you go through that and don't say, hey,
(10:16):
what are we doing. We can't just flush the season
down the drain. That's something that despite all the you
know a lot of things that are said about your
organization in terms of acquiring people and and and whatever
you want to say about their the way they do
things of personnel, they've it's usually been through the lens
(10:37):
of we want to give every season a full chance
to go win every game and be there in every
game no matter what, whether the season feels lost or
they're in it, and not be thinking about future years
and other stuff. Well, I don't know how you don't
go back to that right now. You can't just flush
(10:58):
this season and he oh, I don't know. It didn't
work out with Jake. We trotted them out there for
ten games and we had eighteen first downs total. Like,
you can't. You can't. It can't keep looking like it
has the last two weeks with the same problems. So yes,
I think they're reevaluating it. I think they're looking into
what those options are. I think you're also going to
(11:20):
see some wish for Jake Browning. I just you can
you can feel it getting tighter.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I watched cam Taylor Brick get benched on Monday, seen
that before.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I watched Geno's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Stick that up to what's that total up to? Now?
What are we up to? On? Is there? Do we
have a ratio in somewhere on Pro Football Reference dot
Com for games played to benchings that I can reference,
because I'm trying to figure out that number has to
exist right now? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So I watched him get benched for the third time.
I watched Geno Stone continue to take angles that defy
basic geometry when he tries to make a tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now, Jalen Rivers is a starting guard, so.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We've gone from Lucas Patrick to Dalton Reisner to Jalen
River So I'm I see some things that we talked
about them needing to fix back in March that are
cropping up as problems again in September.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I don't know, man, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Don't know how if you own the team, you don't
say to Duke Tobin, like, what did you do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
All off season? I mean it sounds harsh, but.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What is the answer for we're seeing some of the
same guys who were complicit in the team's demise last
year be complicit in their demise this year.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah. I mean these are you know, these are the
bets that were made that you know, this escapegoating that
happened of Luanna Rumo of it was just they're not
getting stopper. We we think that it'll be different in
a different scheme with a different coach at some point.
(13:01):
You I guess there's an element of give it time
to play out. Yeah, so much of it just feels
and looks the same. It's under a different coach or
different coaches if you're talking about the offensive line or
whatever you're talking about. Yeah, I there are everybody's hands
in this one, you know, everybody, everybody that is seeing
(13:22):
anytime a team looks as bad as this team has looked,
and every week is like, oh, what's the new historical
and aptitude stat We're gonna truck out this week two
weeks in a row now, Like when it's like that's
that's where it goes, and it should because it's this
has been obvious stuff and I don't you know, I
(13:44):
don't know where you go with that. Because we know
the setup your organizationally, but they're they're gonna hope that
the coaching over time will make it look better. But yeah,
this is the problems that we knew were problems are problems,
and here to cover up a lot of them. So
it makes them even more glaring than they already would
(14:06):
have been.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Don't you wish you were here for an hour's worth
of these questions?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I really don't, and I can't, and I can't believe,
and I can't believe that we've reached that that there's
still like three months left of this season that already
feels like what's the hope? Like when you were talking
about the church festival earlier, I thought you were going
to talk about bars and bells, because I kind of
think about this season like a lot of Bengals fans
(14:32):
are viewing the season like when they go to play
bars and bells at the church festivals. Like, Look, I'm
resigned to the fact that we're that this is going
to be a losing game, but hopefully a couple of
times I turn over two cherries and a bell or
three of something and I feel a moment of winning
and a moment of happiness. And then get to the
eventual losing of me, me losing all of my money here.
(14:54):
I felt like that's where we were going to go
because I feel like that's kind of where the season
feels like it's bad right now.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It does.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I have found a go go electronic tally counter
with a lanyard four digit LCD counter for nine to
ninety nine on eBay.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So yeah, I'll provide my own equipment.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, okay, you bring your own it. You bring your
own equipment. I'll be looking. I'll be looking for you
in the stands holding up the big the big number
eleven on the poster board.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there on Sunday, and
it's going to be fun.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Paul. Thanks very much, FMO.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Make sure you listen to Paul's podcast, The Growler. Where
you get your podcasts. Read him at the Athletic dot com.
It is seven away from four. We are way late.
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