October 15, 2025 • 10 mins
Robert Weintraub on Bengals/Steelers and Flaccomania
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tomlin on Thursday Night Football, the Bengals look to toss
the Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot I
can say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can be
set on the radio. The Bengals slug it out with
the Steelers tomorrow. Coverage begins at three pm. Stream for
free on the new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN
(00:21):
fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
There has to be somewhere out there in Ohio State
fan who has a Big ten plus login, right, who
watches like the rowing team ors. Ohio State has every
sport conceivable, the wrestling team, equestrian squad, and they watch
those events on the Big ten plus that they pay
(00:48):
thirteen dollars a month for. So if I could just
borrow that login on Friday, I'm not going to do
anything else with it, right, just want to watch the
Bearcats plague against Michigan. We're both going to be rooting again.
It's Michigan in that game, right, So I'm just trying
to save thirteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Know, if you're an obviously you're not, you don't need
Big ten plus for Buckeyes football, but big ten plus
for you know, if you'd like to watch the golf
team play. Why day is a good golf team. I'm
sure it. Just let me borrow the login Friday night
and I'll do you a solid. I have nothing to
reciprocate with, but that would be nice. Robert wy Trub
is with us again, a typical Thursday guest. But you know,
(01:30):
everything's different this week. Everything's really it's gonna be different
for a while. Everything's different this week because of the
game tomorrow. So I asked Robert to join us before
his weekly column is even up. He does write one
for Cincinnati Magazine. You could read it weekly at Cincinnati
Magazine dot Comedy's with us now, Hi, Robert.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Hey, I feel naked joining you before the column is
even that. What am I supposed to refer to? I'll
just have to wink it. Yeah, try and spitball my
way through that week we segment.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I too feel naked for reasons that have nothing to
do with your column. All right, So, so I viewed
the game against Green Bay as a preseason game. The
result they weren't going to win that one, right, So
all right, let's let's see if they can do some
stuff during that game that they can build on. I'm
not sure we saw that defensively, I do think we
saw with Joe Flacco. Did we see enough to make
(02:20):
us believe they could upset the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, I'll say this, there's one critical difference between that
and a preseason game, which is, as you were just
alluding to, being a football fan is expensive, right, and
entertainment product. The Bengals without Flacco, with Browning in there
were just unwatchable and they made you eat all the
money or you know, God forbid you paid to go
to the game. So the ultimate sin in football, especially
(02:45):
the NFL, was to be so execrable and dysfunctional that
you make you want to turn the TV off basically, So,
you know, Flacco gave them that. They were obviously in
the game in the second half. It was it was
a decent TV product. They had a chance. So yeah,
they had also a lot of opportunity to as we'll
probably get to work on some things and do a
(03:06):
lot of things they probably wouldn't any game. They weren't
sort of shadow throwing away. It felt like a little
bit given Flaco's brand newness to the offense in the fact,
they probably weren't going to beat the Packers, at least
they didn't think going in, despite what they talked about
post game. But yeah, I think obviously now they have
the Steelers coming in the Ben Gay Bowl. You know,
(03:27):
they have the young bucket, the two quarterbacks with Flaco
and Aaron Rodgers. It's a tough matchup in a couple
of senses, but you know, they can definitely win the game.
I don't think Mike Tomlin would have been so upset
at his press conference if she didn't recognize the fact
that Blaco gives them a much better chance than Jake
Browning did. The Steelers killed Jake Browning in twenty twenty
three twice. I'm sure they were licking their chops to
(03:49):
play him. Flaco made the offense functional. He got the
ball just like we were talking about last week. He
got rid of it in time and quickly got out
of bad plays, didn't turn bad plays into worst plays,
and you know, the dreaded cliche kept them ahead of
the chains. He did that and gave them a chance
to win the game with a couple of things even
broke right for them, And you know, seem to recognize
(04:12):
that throwing the ball in the general assimea Jamar Chase
is always a good thing, so they have a crack.
You know, the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers have played pretty
functional themselves in a lot of ways. Rogers is doing
for Pittsburgh what Placo did for the Bengals in the
second half. You know, he's not turning the ball over.
He has only three picks. And you know the bad
news is Steelers lead the league in yards per catch,
(04:34):
yards after the catch for reception, which means they've been
breaking tackles and of course the Bengals don't make many tackles,
so that's a matchup there are no doubt can to exploit,
especially if the rookie linebackers play as we assume they are.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
The Steelers have a good record. I think a lot
of us are trying to figure out really how good
they are? What do what do the advanced metrics tell us?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, their defense is very good. I don't think that's
been any surprise we expect the coming into the season,
we expected them to lean heavily on their defense, and
that's what the events metrics tell us. They're right at
the top of the league in pressure rate, they're in
the top ten in DV away, and they're doing the
things you expect them to do. Their one flaw is
that they have had trouble guarding number one enemy wide receivers,
(05:18):
which might actually play in this thing's nice hands. Jamar
Chase is no doubt noting that, and he's had successful
games against the Steelers certainly before. And you know, offensively,
like I alluded to, they're not trying to do anything
particularly fancy. They're not asking Aaron Rodgers to do the
things his ancient body can't do. And you know, they're
sort of middle of the pack, which is what they expected.
(05:40):
But they have offensive line issues and they're mitigating it
by their style of play. And the key will be,
you know what, which team can get the other out
of their quasi comfort zone. I guess first and make
the other team make a mistake. And given the fact
that the Steelers defense has certainly been better than the
Bengals defense has been through the first you know, five
to six weeks of the seas and you have to
(06:01):
give them the advantage in that sense. But you know,
a short week home game primetime, anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Robert win Trump is with his check for his weekly
Bengals column at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. They're benching Logan Wilson.
We saw them give a lot of playing time to
Barrett Carter. This defense needs a spark, This defense needs
guys who can make tackles. What do you make on
what they've done with a guy that a lot of
us thought was kind of gonna be the anchor of
the defense this season.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, yeah, and a lot of us thought that because
that's exactly what Al Golden said was gonna happen all
off season. Basically, let's build around Logan Wilson, get a
couple of understudies and rookies to work with him and
sort of transform the defense in the middle there. And
it's kind of, you know, contradicting it not only himself,
but it also is sort of like, what are the
(06:48):
Bengals doing here? And one breath they're telling you, oh,
we still have a great chance. We brought in Flaco.
We want to you know, not punt on the season.
And yet in this move it almost seems like, you know,
let's give the kids a chance in a low pressure situation.
The season's gone anyway without Joe Burrow playing, let's throw
them in there. We're going to have to turn over
(07:08):
the defense of them eventually. Let's give them all their
you know, reps now while the pressure is a little
bit off. So in that sense, it's a little strange.
I can understand what they were thinking sort of, but
you know, and then you see that mistackles and lining
up in the wrong place and kind of doing the
wrong thing really hurt them in the Green Bay game.
And you know, it's one thing to have it happened
(07:30):
against the Packers in the game you're expected to lose.
But now you've got a division game in prime time
stand alone. You hope that we don't have a repeat
of that on Thursday night, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well said really quick. The difference, and I've talked about
this this week. The difference between three and four and
two and five feels massive because then we start talking
about Pittsburgh running away with it, and here we start
talking about the trade deadline. Trey Hendrickson would be the
most frequently discussed guy. But by the way, for what
it's worth of Trey, just a few moment moments ago,
(08:02):
showed up on the injury report as questionable, which is
a small step in the right direction beyond him. If
that's what we're doing in a week, who are some
other guys they can maybe get something for?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, what if I flipped it around and told you
what they really should do. Not only would they trade Hendrickson,
which you imagine they would probably try to do, but
what if they looked over to another terrible team that
just fired their coach, our friend will Brian Callahan and said,
you know what, we've never been able to get a
defensive tackling here. Since you know Atkins who could rush
the passer, Let's give a pick already since we can't
(08:34):
draft one, and get Jeffrey Simmons over to Heah. No,
I know you wouldn't know this season per se, but
it would be a center of gravity you can build around.
Look to the future. You know you had your quarterback
coming back eventually, and you know, maybe it's not a
direct Hendrickson for Simmons Trey, but it works out that
way in terms of the picks. And uh, you know,
you get rid of an aging guy you don't want
(08:56):
to pay next year for sure, they've made that clear,
and you bring in the guy who's twenty eight, has
a decent contract and is obviously an excellent player, and
finally he gets some interior pass rush and and a
real dominator on the inside. Now, will they do it?
Will the Titans do it? Probably not. Will the Bengals
do it? Almost absolutely. It's the first thing I thought about.
And you know, whether they trade you know, Logan Wilson,
(09:18):
let's say for a mid round pick. Whatever. I don't
think any of that loves the needle. Let's think big.
We still got a little bit opportunity to maybe win
our third game of the season. What the heck. We're
in dream state right now, mom, we are.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We are in dream state, and you're naked, so it's
it's getting weird. I appreciate you adjusting your schedule for us.
We'll talk next week.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
These things happen when you get me on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Awesome stuff, man, I appreciate it. Robert win Trob Bengals
column coming out at Cinsion Magazine dot com. Roberte thee Man,
thanks so.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Much, you too, Thanks both all.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Lincoln Griffin is back with the Cyclones and he is
going to join us next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
The UC Health to Graphics Center. The UC Health's Women's
Sports Medicine Program provides specialized care for female athletes at
all levels. Schedule and appointment online at UCHealth dot com.
There is a new accident in that is on Queen
City Avenue between Grand Avenue and Van Heart Street on
eastbound State Route thirty two. Though still got that accident
(10:20):
between Ronny Lane and Mount Carmel Tabasco Road on Dixie Highway.
Another accident over at Crescentville Road. I'm at Ezelic with traffic.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
This report is
Tomlin on Thursday Night Football, the Bengals look to toss
the Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot I
can say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can be
set on the radio. The Bengals slug it out with
the Steelers tomorrow. Coverage begins at three pm. Stream for
free on the new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN
(00:21):
fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
There has to be somewhere out there in Ohio State
fan who has a Big ten plus login, right, who
watches like the rowing team ors. Ohio State has every
sport conceivable, the wrestling team, equestrian squad, and they watch
those events on the Big ten plus that they pay
(00:48):
thirteen dollars a month for. So if I could just
borrow that login on Friday, I'm not going to do
anything else with it, right, just want to watch the
Bearcats plague against Michigan. We're both going to be rooting again.
It's Michigan in that game, right, So I'm just trying
to save thirteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Know, if you're an obviously you're not, you don't need
Big ten plus for Buckeyes football, but big ten plus
for you know, if you'd like to watch the golf
team play. Why day is a good golf team. I'm
sure it. Just let me borrow the login Friday night
and I'll do you a solid. I have nothing to
reciprocate with, but that would be nice. Robert wy Trub
is with us again, a typical Thursday guest. But you know,
(01:30):
everything's different this week. Everything's really it's gonna be different
for a while. Everything's different this week because of the
game tomorrow. So I asked Robert to join us before
his weekly column is even up. He does write one
for Cincinnati Magazine. You could read it weekly at Cincinnati
Magazine dot Comedy's with us now, Hi, Robert.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Hey, I feel naked joining you before the column is
even that. What am I supposed to refer to? I'll
just have to wink it. Yeah, try and spitball my
way through that week we segment.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I too feel naked for reasons that have nothing to
do with your column. All right, So, so I viewed
the game against Green Bay as a preseason game. The
result they weren't going to win that one, right, So
all right, let's let's see if they can do some
stuff during that game that they can build on. I'm
not sure we saw that defensively, I do think we
saw with Joe Flacco. Did we see enough to make
(02:20):
us believe they could upset the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, I'll say this, there's one critical difference between that
and a preseason game, which is, as you were just
alluding to, being a football fan is expensive, right, and
entertainment product. The Bengals without Flacco, with Browning in there
were just unwatchable and they made you eat all the
money or you know, God forbid you paid to go
to the game. So the ultimate sin in football, especially
(02:45):
the NFL, was to be so execrable and dysfunctional that
you make you want to turn the TV off basically, So,
you know, Flacco gave them that. They were obviously in
the game in the second half. It was it was
a decent TV product. They had a chance. So yeah,
they had also a lot of opportunity to as we'll
probably get to work on some things and do a
(03:06):
lot of things they probably wouldn't any game. They weren't
sort of shadow throwing away. It felt like a little
bit given Flaco's brand newness to the offense in the fact,
they probably weren't going to beat the Packers, at least
they didn't think going in, despite what they talked about
post game. But yeah, I think obviously now they have
the Steelers coming in the Ben Gay Bowl. You know,
(03:27):
they have the young bucket, the two quarterbacks with Flaco
and Aaron Rodgers. It's a tough matchup in a couple
of senses, but you know, they can definitely win the game.
I don't think Mike Tomlin would have been so upset
at his press conference if she didn't recognize the fact
that Blaco gives them a much better chance than Jake
Browning did. The Steelers killed Jake Browning in twenty twenty
three twice. I'm sure they were licking their chops to
(03:49):
play him. Flaco made the offense functional. He got the
ball just like we were talking about last week. He
got rid of it in time and quickly got out
of bad plays, didn't turn bad plays into worst plays,
and you know, the dreaded cliche kept them ahead of
the chains. He did that and gave them a chance
to win the game with a couple of things even
broke right for them, And you know, seem to recognize
(04:12):
that throwing the ball in the general assimea Jamar Chase
is always a good thing, so they have a crack.
You know, the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers have played pretty
functional themselves in a lot of ways. Rogers is doing
for Pittsburgh what Placo did for the Bengals in the
second half. You know, he's not turning the ball over.
He has only three picks. And you know the bad
news is Steelers lead the league in yards per catch,
(04:34):
yards after the catch for reception, which means they've been
breaking tackles and of course the Bengals don't make many tackles,
so that's a matchup there are no doubt can to exploit,
especially if the rookie linebackers play as we assume they are.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
The Steelers have a good record. I think a lot
of us are trying to figure out really how good
they are? What do what do the advanced metrics tell us?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, their defense is very good. I don't think that's
been any surprise we expect the coming into the season,
we expected them to lean heavily on their defense, and
that's what the events metrics tell us. They're right at
the top of the league in pressure rate, they're in
the top ten in DV away, and they're doing the
things you expect them to do. Their one flaw is
that they have had trouble guarding number one enemy wide receivers,
(05:18):
which might actually play in this thing's nice hands. Jamar
Chase is no doubt noting that, and he's had successful
games against the Steelers certainly before. And you know, offensively,
like I alluded to, they're not trying to do anything
particularly fancy. They're not asking Aaron Rodgers to do the
things his ancient body can't do. And you know, they're
sort of middle of the pack, which is what they expected.
(05:40):
But they have offensive line issues and they're mitigating it
by their style of play. And the key will be,
you know what, which team can get the other out
of their quasi comfort zone. I guess first and make
the other team make a mistake. And given the fact
that the Steelers defense has certainly been better than the
Bengals defense has been through the first you know, five
to six weeks of the seas and you have to
(06:01):
give them the advantage in that sense. But you know,
a short week home game primetime, anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Robert win Trump is with his check for his weekly
Bengals column at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. They're benching Logan Wilson.
We saw them give a lot of playing time to
Barrett Carter. This defense needs a spark, This defense needs
guys who can make tackles. What do you make on
what they've done with a guy that a lot of
us thought was kind of gonna be the anchor of
the defense this season.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, yeah, and a lot of us thought that because
that's exactly what Al Golden said was gonna happen all
off season. Basically, let's build around Logan Wilson, get a
couple of understudies and rookies to work with him and
sort of transform the defense in the middle there. And
it's kind of, you know, contradicting it not only himself,
but it also is sort of like, what are the
(06:48):
Bengals doing here? And one breath they're telling you, oh,
we still have a great chance. We brought in Flaco.
We want to you know, not punt on the season.
And yet in this move it almost seems like, you know,
let's give the kids a chance in a low pressure situation.
The season's gone anyway without Joe Burrow playing, let's throw
them in there. We're going to have to turn over
(07:08):
the defense of them eventually. Let's give them all their
you know, reps now while the pressure is a little
bit off. So in that sense, it's a little strange.
I can understand what they were thinking sort of, but
you know, and then you see that mistackles and lining
up in the wrong place and kind of doing the
wrong thing really hurt them in the Green Bay game.
And you know, it's one thing to have it happened
(07:30):
against the Packers in the game you're expected to lose.
But now you've got a division game in prime time
stand alone. You hope that we don't have a repeat
of that on Thursday night, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well said really quick. The difference, and I've talked about
this this week. The difference between three and four and
two and five feels massive because then we start talking
about Pittsburgh running away with it, and here we start
talking about the trade deadline. Trey Hendrickson would be the
most frequently discussed guy. But by the way, for what
it's worth of Trey, just a few moment moments ago,
(08:02):
showed up on the injury report as questionable, which is
a small step in the right direction beyond him. If
that's what we're doing in a week, who are some
other guys they can maybe get something for?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, what if I flipped it around and told you
what they really should do. Not only would they trade Hendrickson,
which you imagine they would probably try to do, but
what if they looked over to another terrible team that
just fired their coach, our friend will Brian Callahan and said,
you know what, we've never been able to get a
defensive tackling here. Since you know Atkins who could rush
the passer, Let's give a pick already since we can't
(08:34):
draft one, and get Jeffrey Simmons over to Heah. No,
I know you wouldn't know this season per se, but
it would be a center of gravity you can build around.
Look to the future. You know you had your quarterback
coming back eventually, and you know, maybe it's not a
direct Hendrickson for Simmons Trey, but it works out that
way in terms of the picks. And uh, you know,
you get rid of an aging guy you don't want
(08:56):
to pay next year for sure, they've made that clear,
and you bring in the guy who's twenty eight, has
a decent contract and is obviously an excellent player, and
finally he gets some interior pass rush and and a
real dominator on the inside. Now, will they do it?
Will the Titans do it? Probably not. Will the Bengals
do it? Almost absolutely. It's the first thing I thought about.
And you know, whether they trade you know, Logan Wilson,
(09:18):
let's say for a mid round pick. Whatever. I don't
think any of that loves the needle. Let's think big.
We still got a little bit opportunity to maybe win
our third game of the season. What the heck. We're
in dream state right now, mom, we are.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We are in dream state, and you're naked, so it's
it's getting weird. I appreciate you adjusting your schedule for us.
We'll talk next week.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
These things happen when you get me on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Awesome stuff, man, I appreciate it. Robert win Trob Bengals
column coming out at Cinsion Magazine dot com. Roberte thee Man,
thanks so.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Much, you too, Thanks both all.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Lincoln Griffin is back with the Cyclones and he is
going to join us next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
The UC Health to Graphics Center. The UC Health's Women's
Sports Medicine Program provides specialized care for female athletes at
all levels. Schedule and appointment online at UCHealth dot com.
There is a new accident in that is on Queen
City Avenue between Grand Avenue and Van Heart Street on
eastbound State Route thirty two. Though still got that accident
(10:20):
between Ronny Lane and Mount Carmel Tabasco Road on Dixie Highway.
Another accident over at Crescentville Road. I'm at Ezelic with traffic.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
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