October 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Shawn Syed on the Bengals
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Football Iam the Natty, brought to you in
part by Postman Law and Vice Skyline Chile on ESPN
fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're broadcasting from Oakley Greens because it's Tuesday. That's one
cool thing about Tuesday. One of the others is Tuesday
is when we talk with our guys. Sean Sayath from
Summer Sports. Sean is one of the authors of the
Stats and Schemes newsletter, which shows up shows shows up
in your inbox multiple times daily. Sean, it's awesome to
(00:36):
have you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh, I'm doing well, you know. I will say that
it's been a bunch of weeks through this season, and
by far the best moment of the entire season was
Joe Flacco's run. I can't stop thinking about it. I
was so excited to get on this call Jess so
I could relive it. I mean, out of my chair
watching it, just love it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He targets Jamar Chase twenty three times. He throws a
dime to t Higgins to help seal the game. He
makes a great throw to Andrey Yoshavas and you're right.
I went to bed on Thursday night thinking about Joe
Flacco's run more than any other play.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Unbelievable, and I thought he did a really good job
of getting the ball out of his hands really really quick,
and because of that, you end up getting a season
low pressure percentage. So one way to help out your
offensive line is just get rid of that thing. I
think that was really really tonzive and something I think
you can take away because it's not that we've seen
it once now, right, you know, I was, I think
(01:34):
a little bit harsh on the Steelers offense when we
talked last week. The Steelers defense really I think showed
that it had a lot of shortcomings that I was
glad that Flacco was able to take advantage of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, it was actually going to start there because I've
watched some analysis just crushed Pittsburgh for the way they
played Higgins and Chase sticking Man, never switching the zone
or at least rarely switching the zone own schematically, if
you're a Steelers fan, what should you be fuming about
when it comes to Thursday?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
There is just a kind of static nature to a
Steelers defense where you've seen at times over the last
few years. Hey, you're gonna throw in some more rotations
to get to cover two type looks. But Joe Black
I can clearly still just sit back there and chuck
it into kind of these open zone windows. So for me,
(02:27):
it feels like this defense it's not gonna be a
schematically ahead of the game defense where you don't always
have to be schematically ahead of the game. I don't
want to say that you need to win on a
chalkboard every time. If you're not going to, you have
to be better at a lot of the positions throughout
the defense, and certainly at the cornerback position. It did
not look like bad last Thursday night offensively.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did the Bengals offensive line perform well or did Joe
Flacco just mask their deficiencies?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, I do think it was a little bit
of Flacco getting rid of the ball so quick like
that makes such a big deal. And case Brown, I
think he had overall one hundred yards after contact, so
that means that he's still being contacted kind of early
after the line of scrims. I think he course at
least like six mistackled, which is a really good thing.
(03:16):
So I don't want to say, all right, well this
this rushing performance where you have like close to the
ninetieth percentile in terms of how efficient you were. I
don't want to take it fully away from the offensive line.
I do think though, that black boy was able to
help the offensive line in the past game, and Chase
Brown was I mean, he had no desire to get
tackled in that game. I think that really helped as well.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What did they do running the football that we could
hope is sustainable.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think that one thing they were smart about just
running left like he run away from TJ. Watt so
to me, so many teams have done that this year.
I think that is a smart thing. Where Chase Brown,
you know, he also was pretty effective running out of shotgun,
which I think that is something that you know, we
had talked about actually but last year, just how did
the running back kind of deal with playing in shotgun
when you're with Joe Burrow all the time. So I
(04:05):
think that that is a really positive thing because you're
gonna keep them on the ball to Jamar Chase if
you're able to, you know, get your offensive line maybe
just a little bit more comfortable in terms of those
short passes. Now you have something in the run game.
And I mean that's that's a full offense. Like that
is a full, full offense to be able to attack
other teams.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Uh Sean said. Is with us the State the Stats
and Schemes newsletter. Sign up for it now sumer sports
dot com. If if not for Flacco's heroics with Higgins
and Chase, we're talking about another dreadful night for the defense.
They've made some changes there, right, They They've decreased Logan
Wilson's playing time. You're seeing more of Barrett Carter. We
(04:44):
didn't have Trey Hendrickson. We saw more of Shamar Stewart
until we stopped seeing Schamar Stewart. I just the Flacco
thing is fun. I worry about how sustainable it is.
Not so much because of him. They just can't get stops.
And I know I've asked you this a billion times,
but like Al Golden is trying stuff, He's benching Cam
(05:05):
Taylor Brick, He's trying lineup changes, and yet the results,
especially when they need stops, are the same every single week.
What does the defensive coordinator do?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, I mean I think you're hoping to play a
game against the Steelers where I mean, you get those
two interceptions and you're just playing a variance game overall.
I guess when I looked at Rogers, this success, a
lot of it is kind of between the numbers seventeen
for twenty two for one hundred and seventy yards and
four touchdowns between those numbers, So attacking that kind of
middle of the field area and having success where on
(05:38):
the outside Rogers through both of his picks kind of
outside that numbers areas. So it can just be a
little bit of a thing where linebackers in the NFL
are are a vulnerable position. It is really really tough
to play down there. But is it just a kind
of a game to game basis where maybe he just
keep saying, hey, go and push the wall to the outside,
like we're gonna force you to make those throws.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
We're gonna trust that at least one of our corners can
make at least one play a week, and then you're
kind of just living with it just because you know,
from an up and down talent perspective, it's it's not
to me a situation where you said, are well, you're
gonna be able to win in these five places, and
now you can start feeling really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Why are the Jets so bad?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, it's it's it's quite unfortunate, it really really is.
I have friends in that uh in that in that
building that have worked worked that team for a while,
and it's hard to i think, come out of that
this season so far with positives really at any level.
The offense I think is sometimes efficient on a down
and down basis. I think you can take a little
(06:38):
bit of positive away from some of the things you
see on the offensive line, but they are they're a
stick in the mud on offense. Their defense that certainly
regrets from what we think of them a few years ago.
And it is I think pretty clear to me that
they're the worst team in the league. Obviously, it's easy
to say when you start the season zero to seven.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, So, like you know, Zach tay is going to
say all the things about the Jets that he should.
You know, you don't overlook an opponent, you don't take
one for granted.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But they are zero to seven. The game is in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I guess Tyrod Taylor's gonna play quarterback for the for
the Jets at least, all signs point toward that if
if they're going to ruin Sunday in Cincinnati, how do
they do it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Man, I mean definitely a little bit of turnover. Look,
I think that's something that has been so far against
the Jets this season, just like unfathomable kind of turnovers
happening over and over for that unit. I think, you know,
Tyra Taylor can still play. I don't want to pretend
like he can't. I think it's a real ground and
pound type. Hey, we're just gonna turn out first downs
(07:42):
on the ground against you Flacco. Maybe you know, the
two games are just a little bit too magic and
that kind of runs out. So to me, that's the
path for a Jets team that. I mean, they're they're
really kind of grasping that straw. Sometimes it feels like
their defense is a little bit just gonna have to
just based on kind of the ideas that are happening there.
So I certainly would the Jets luck in this game.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I hope they get destroyed. But regardless, we'll talk next week.
Uh suomer sports dot com, let's start by talking about
Suomer Brain.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It'll make you even smarter. Tell folks how it works.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Of course, Sooomer sports dot Com slash snoomer Brain based
as all of our data built and just like into
a really really easy chatbot. You want to know anything,
You want to know, what's the Jets first down success
rate in the third quarter, you can really really quickly
pull that out to me. It's just it's great information.
It is free. It is saving me time some I
think you'll say, anyone's time, and hey, you know, you
get into an argument, you want to look something up.
(08:35):
It's an easy way to get an answer, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And then the Stats and Scheme Newsletter, which is a
must hip.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We're still preview and reviewing every single game across the
season with advanced stats, you know, specific analytics for specific
types of matchups, whether it's offense versus defense, whether it's
a specific run concept versus a specific defensive concept. It's
done a lot of fun this year. And hey, you know,
it's easy to talk about some fun with Joe Flaco.
So I'm sure that's gonna make it into the way
(09:03):
this week.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Flac Omania, Sean, it's what we're calling it, at least
what I'm calling.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm in. I'm fully in.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All right, we need all the help we can get Shan,
You're the best. Thank you as.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Always, Thanks so much, talk next. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I love talking with Sean sayat the Stats and Schemes
newsletter is terrific. Twenty nine away from six o'clock, we're
at Oakley Greens, which is also terrific. We'll take some
phone calls because we have folks who have chosen to
call this show for reasons I'm not sure I understand.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
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Speaker 1 (09:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're broadcasting from Oakley Greens because it's Tuesday. That's one
cool thing about Tuesday. One of the others is Tuesday
is when we talk with our guys. Sean Sayath from
Summer Sports. Sean is one of the authors of the
Stats and Schemes newsletter, which shows up shows shows up
in your inbox multiple times daily. Sean, it's awesome to
(00:36):
have you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh, I'm doing well, you know. I will say that
it's been a bunch of weeks through this season, and
by far the best moment of the entire season was
Joe Flacco's run. I can't stop thinking about it. I
was so excited to get on this call Jess so
I could relive it. I mean, out of my chair
watching it, just love it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He targets Jamar Chase twenty three times. He throws a
dime to t Higgins to help seal the game. He
makes a great throw to Andrey Yoshavas and you're right.
I went to bed on Thursday night thinking about Joe
Flacco's run more than any other play.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Unbelievable, and I thought he did a really good job
of getting the ball out of his hands really really quick,
and because of that, you end up getting a season
low pressure percentage. So one way to help out your
offensive line is just get rid of that thing. I
think that was really really tonzive and something I think
you can take away because it's not that we've seen
it once now, right, you know, I was, I think
(01:34):
a little bit harsh on the Steelers offense when we
talked last week. The Steelers defense really I think showed
that it had a lot of shortcomings that I was
glad that Flacco was able to take advantage of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, it was actually going to start there because I've
watched some analysis just crushed Pittsburgh for the way they
played Higgins and Chase sticking Man, never switching the zone
or at least rarely switching the zone own schematically, if
you're a Steelers fan, what should you be fuming about
when it comes to Thursday?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
There is just a kind of static nature to a
Steelers defense where you've seen at times over the last
few years. Hey, you're gonna throw in some more rotations
to get to cover two type looks. But Joe Black
I can clearly still just sit back there and chuck
it into kind of these open zone windows. So for me,
(02:27):
it feels like this defense it's not gonna be a
schematically ahead of the game defense where you don't always
have to be schematically ahead of the game. I don't
want to say that you need to win on a
chalkboard every time. If you're not going to, you have
to be better at a lot of the positions throughout
the defense, and certainly at the cornerback position. It did
not look like bad last Thursday night offensively.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did the Bengals offensive line perform well or did Joe
Flacco just mask their deficiencies?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, I do think it was a little bit
of Flacco getting rid of the ball so quick like
that makes such a big deal. And case Brown, I
think he had overall one hundred yards after contact, so
that means that he's still being contacted kind of early
after the line of scrims. I think he course at
least like six mistackled, which is a really good thing.
(03:16):
So I don't want to say, all right, well this
this rushing performance where you have like close to the
ninetieth percentile in terms of how efficient you were. I
don't want to take it fully away from the offensive line.
I do think though, that black boy was able to
help the offensive line in the past game, and Chase
Brown was I mean, he had no desire to get
tackled in that game. I think that really helped as well.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What did they do running the football that we could
hope is sustainable.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think that one thing they were smart about just
running left like he run away from TJ. Watt so
to me, so many teams have done that this year.
I think that is a smart thing. Where Chase Brown,
you know, he also was pretty effective running out of shotgun,
which I think that is something that you know, we
had talked about actually but last year, just how did
the running back kind of deal with playing in shotgun
when you're with Joe Burrow all the time. So I
(04:05):
think that that is a really positive thing because you're
gonna keep them on the ball to Jamar Chase if
you're able to, you know, get your offensive line maybe
just a little bit more comfortable in terms of those
short passes. Now you have something in the run game.
And I mean that's that's a full offense. Like that
is a full, full offense to be able to attack
other teams.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Uh Sean said. Is with us the State the Stats
and Schemes newsletter. Sign up for it now sumer sports
dot com. If if not for Flacco's heroics with Higgins
and Chase, we're talking about another dreadful night for the defense.
They've made some changes there, right, They They've decreased Logan
Wilson's playing time. You're seeing more of Barrett Carter. We
(04:44):
didn't have Trey Hendrickson. We saw more of Shamar Stewart
until we stopped seeing Schamar Stewart. I just the Flacco
thing is fun. I worry about how sustainable it is.
Not so much because of him. They just can't get stops.
And I know I've asked you this a billion times,
but like Al Golden is trying stuff, He's benching Cam
(05:05):
Taylor Brick, He's trying lineup changes, and yet the results,
especially when they need stops, are the same every single week.
What does the defensive coordinator do?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, I mean I think you're hoping to play a
game against the Steelers where I mean, you get those
two interceptions and you're just playing a variance game overall.
I guess when I looked at Rogers, this success, a
lot of it is kind of between the numbers seventeen
for twenty two for one hundred and seventy yards and
four touchdowns between those numbers, So attacking that kind of
middle of the field area and having success where on
(05:38):
the outside Rogers through both of his picks kind of
outside that numbers areas. So it can just be a
little bit of a thing where linebackers in the NFL
are are a vulnerable position. It is really really tough
to play down there. But is it just a kind
of a game to game basis where maybe he just
keep saying, hey, go and push the wall to the outside,
like we're gonna force you to make those throws.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
We're gonna trust that at least one of our corners can
make at least one play a week, and then you're
kind of just living with it just because you know,
from an up and down talent perspective, it's it's not
to me a situation where you said, are well, you're
gonna be able to win in these five places, and
now you can start feeling really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Why are the Jets so bad?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, it's it's it's quite unfortunate, it really really is.
I have friends in that uh in that in that
building that have worked worked that team for a while,
and it's hard to i think, come out of that
this season so far with positives really at any level.
The offense I think is sometimes efficient on a down
and down basis. I think you can take a little
(06:38):
bit of positive away from some of the things you
see on the offensive line, but they are they're a
stick in the mud on offense. Their defense that certainly
regrets from what we think of them a few years ago.
And it is I think pretty clear to me that
they're the worst team in the league. Obviously, it's easy
to say when you start the season zero to seven.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, So, like you know, Zach tay is going to
say all the things about the Jets that he should.
You know, you don't overlook an opponent, you don't take
one for granted.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But they are zero to seven. The game is in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I guess Tyrod Taylor's gonna play quarterback for the for
the Jets at least, all signs point toward that if
if they're going to ruin Sunday in Cincinnati, how do
they do it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Man, I mean definitely a little bit of turnover. Look,
I think that's something that has been so far against
the Jets this season, just like unfathomable kind of turnovers
happening over and over for that unit. I think, you know,
Tyra Taylor can still play. I don't want to pretend
like he can't. I think it's a real ground and
pound type. Hey, we're just gonna turn out first downs
(07:42):
on the ground against you Flacco. Maybe you know, the
two games are just a little bit too magic and
that kind of runs out. So to me, that's the
path for a Jets team that. I mean, they're they're
really kind of grasping that straw. Sometimes it feels like
their defense is a little bit just gonna have to
just based on kind of the ideas that are happening there.
So I certainly would the Jets luck in this game.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I hope they get destroyed. But regardless, we'll talk next week.
Uh suomer sports dot com, let's start by talking about
Suomer Brain.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It'll make you even smarter. Tell folks how it works.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Of course, Sooomer sports dot Com slash snoomer Brain based
as all of our data built and just like into
a really really easy chatbot. You want to know anything,
You want to know, what's the Jets first down success
rate in the third quarter, you can really really quickly
pull that out to me. It's just it's great information.
It is free. It is saving me time some I
think you'll say, anyone's time, and hey, you know, you
get into an argument, you want to look something up.
(08:35):
It's an easy way to get an answer, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And then the Stats and Scheme Newsletter, which is a
must hip.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We're still preview and reviewing every single game across the
season with advanced stats, you know, specific analytics for specific
types of matchups, whether it's offense versus defense, whether it's
a specific run concept versus a specific defensive concept. It's
done a lot of fun this year. And hey, you know,
it's easy to talk about some fun with Joe Flaco.
So I'm sure that's gonna make it into the way
(09:03):
this week.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Flac Omania, Sean, it's what we're calling it, at least
what I'm calling.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm in. I'm fully in.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All right, we need all the help we can get Shan,
You're the best. Thank you as.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Always, Thanks so much, talk next. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I love talking with Sean sayat the Stats and Schemes
newsletter is terrific. Twenty nine away from six o'clock, we're
at Oakley Greens, which is also terrific. We'll take some
phone calls because we have folks who have chosen to
call this show for reasons I'm not sure I understand.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
On ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You've been listening to Football in the NATI, brought to
you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution, powered by Tofe Sheldon on
ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
The UC Health Traffic Center. Ma'am mcgraham sab lives call
five one three five big four Pink two. Scheduled your
annual amigram with UC Help's expert team. That's five one
three five eighty four pink. At this time, Paddock Road
remains shut down due to an accident that is approaching
the Norwood lateral on southbound seventy five. Another crash at
(10:13):
Fort Washington Way traffic backed up from the Western Hills
Viaduct and northbound seventy one. It's an accident at Montgomery Road.
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