October 8, 2025 • 8 mins
Richard Skinner of Local 12 previews Packers/Bengals
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Football Wim the Natty, brought to you in
part by Postman Law and Vice Skyline Chilly on ESPN
fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank god, we've reached the point of the show where
we call Richard Skinner Local twelve Local twelve dot com
on Twitter at Local twelve Skinny, Hi, Richard.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey mo, can you give me fifteen seconds here? I
just want to share everybody's sentiments about Tony Pike. It's
wholly unfair. As someone who's been riffed in this business,
it's a gut punch. But I'll tell you this and
it'll happen for Tony. One door closes, a better door opens.
And he's a really talented guy. I know he's gonna
land on his feet.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You only won fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I could do longer, but I thought i'd keep
it condensed just for you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's kind of you. I second everything.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You could bring back the angry quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We could. I've actually thought about that. I don't think
that's out of the reach out of my mind somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Very very good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
How how taken aback were you when you found out
that the solution that quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Going to be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I wouldn't say stunned, but if you started tossing around names,
he probably wasn't when you were tossing around. But you know,
I know people are banging the drum for Russell Wilson,
and I mean, let's face it, there's been four teams,
three teams in a row that have given up on
that guy. There's a reason for that, right, I mean,
there just is. And then there's also the diva stuff
that comes with it, and maybe it's unfair, and maybe
(01:36):
I've not been in a locker room with Russell, so
I've never had an interaction with Russell, so maybe that's
completely unfair. But it just wasn't gonna be the fit.
And then you know, Jamis is fun. I mean he's fun,
but he's Jake b downing three interceptions, three touchdowns fun.
That's not much fun, right, I mean, it's just not.
The cousin's thing was interesting. Depends on how you would
(01:56):
have done the contract machinations, how much you would have
been on the hook four, because maybe it would have
been worthwhile because you're gonna need a back up next
season and maybe he could be that guy. But a
ten million dollars backups a lot. I mean, so yeah,
I mean where you fell here, I'm okay with it.
I mean he didn't move my needle a ton. If
you use advanced metrics, you know, Jake Brown's the worst
(02:18):
one in the league. And guess who's right above him
next door in the league. It's Shoe Flacco. But I
do think this offense is interesting because he still has
that big arm. They still have a lot of quick
stuff where you know, make a quick read, get it
out of your hands, and I think that's where Jake
was really struggling. He just was having a hard time
with progressions and making quick reads and making quick decisions.
I don't think that'll be a problem for Joe Flacco.
(02:40):
I am a little stun You signed the guys on
a Tuesday, and he's gonna start a game on a Sunday.
I really thought whoever they signed, it would almost be Jason.
Get a couple more starts, and maybe he works his
way out of this, and you know, after that, through
that Thursday night game, because it's a quick week, then
we'll go in a different direction with the guy we
brought in. Because we've gotten up to speed. This tells
you how desperate they were, right, I mean, they'd had enough,
(03:01):
they'd seen enough. They didn't think they could win with
Jake any longer, and so you had to pull the trigger. Again.
It doesn't move my needle much because again, I don't
know what to expect. I know what I've seen, and
what i've seen has been eh. Yeah, I've seen from
Jake has beenah. So I get it, and I'm a
big fan of Jakes. It just didn't work, and I'm
so stunned it didn't. I'm I'm probably the most surprised
(03:22):
person it didn't work because what I saw in those
seven games in twenty three was a capable quarterback. What
I saw in these three games this year was the
guy we feared that would be in there in twenty
twenty three when he took his first nap.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm stunned it didn't work because my expectations weren't huge, right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I looked for competence.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I looked for just be capable, make it function, and
if it does, especially in those games against Denver and Minnesota,
that could have been enough. The fact that it cratered
the way it did and did so quickly.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I think it's actually a pretty shocking development.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah. I just never would have seen that coming. Could
I tell you he's gonna play Joe Burrow level football
for three games?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But again I saw it confident court. I saw a
guy go to a game in Jacksonville on a Monday
night when Jacksonville at the time was really good and
they cratered that season, but they were really good, and
he goes thirty two and thirty seven and helps him
win the game in overtime. They kept him in the
playoff race. I just listen, I asked. I asked Jake
that question in the press conference. I asked that that question.
(04:19):
I asked Dan Pitcher when we have him in kind
of a writer's only session, that question. And no one
seems to be able to put their finger on what's
different between Jake Browning now and Jake Browning. Then Jake
gave me a decent enough answer where you know we
had the run game going in the screen game. Okay,
you probably did, because I think your strength is using
play action, getting under center. I mean, remember we talked
about the elements of the offense with the play action
(04:41):
and the under center and the bootlegs. Well, what maybe
you incorporate that with Joe Burrow it looks so good,
well when you didn't run the football and he didn't
protect very well, and then Jake got in his own head.
I mean, I think Sunday after Sunday night, him talking
to the media Sunday night, it was almost like, yeah,
this can't go forward. He a mess at the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
With Joe Flacco, I get somebody who's who's a quick study.
He's done the quick study thing before with the Browns,
although admittedly not this quickly and at the very least
like I've seen Jamar Chase get.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Open and the ball will not come his way.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I feel like that will get rectified even if
there are mobility issues.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, no, I agree, the mobility issues are real. You
can you can mask some of that with a little
bit more more max protection. Mike Literally, you know there's
two guys in the route at number five and number one,
maybe a third there's a checkdown guy. I mean you
can do that. Teams do. There's two man routes all
the time in this league, and those are two pretty
good guys to send out. Now, then you hear that
both get doubled and where do you go with the football?
(05:39):
All those things. You know, he's willing to throw the
ball away. You know, I'm gonna put a name here
in a minute. I did it yesterday when I did
a TV segment. I got a statue quarterback. Peyton Manning
was a literal statue quarterback did okay. Now, he had
better offensive lines, and he had certainly the Marvin Harrison
uh and and Reggie Wayne and and Dallas Clark and
those guys, and so he had weapons and a running game,
(06:01):
so he had all those things going on. But he
was a statue and he did pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, you're right, I mean I'm not. I'm less worried
about that. And more, can he master the basics? And
I think Joe Flacco can and and mastering the basics
in this offense still means there's a high end that
this unit collectively can hit.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah. I think that's the part too. I like, I mean,
can you still throw it? He sure can? Okay, Now
that's that's point one. He's a very smart guy, There's
no question about that. I mean, I thought it was
really semi comedic that, I mean, they started going over
this stuff as he was being driven from Cleveland to yesterday.
But I think it shows you that, hey, we got
no time to waste, man, we got to get do
this thing. I hazact today. You know, do you scale
(06:43):
some stuff back? And he said, yeah, you gotta be
mindful of it. I mean, I don't think you're gonna
throw a whole playbook into into the game plan now
for for Joe Flacco. But I want to bet you
there's a chunk of the playbook that's probably more than
what we think that's going to be available to him.
And I will say this, it's it's made a trip
and I'm taking a driving trip as you know with
some of our friends. Yeah, it's made a trip that
(07:03):
was going to be oh gosh for going up here
to watch this again, to at least it's going to
be interesting, right one way or the others, to be
interesting good or interesting bad.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that car ride's going to be interesting. And frankly,
I think that's still the most interesting thing about this weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It might be. It just might be.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Thanks as always, man, I appreciate it. Figure that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Richard Skinner Local twelve, Local twelve dot com. We'll play
some Zach Taylor Audio. We'll hear from Gregory and John
Michael and another guy named Mike and room for you
before six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
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Speaker 4 (08:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank god, we've reached the point of the show where
we call Richard Skinner Local twelve Local twelve dot com
on Twitter at Local twelve Skinny, Hi, Richard.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey mo, can you give me fifteen seconds here? I
just want to share everybody's sentiments about Tony Pike. It's
wholly unfair. As someone who's been riffed in this business,
it's a gut punch. But I'll tell you this and
it'll happen for Tony. One door closes, a better door opens.
And he's a really talented guy. I know he's gonna
land on his feet.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You only won fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I could do longer, but I thought i'd keep
it condensed just for you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's kind of you. I second everything.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You could bring back the angry quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We could. I've actually thought about that. I don't think
that's out of the reach out of my mind somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Very very good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
How how taken aback were you when you found out
that the solution that quarterback is.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Going to be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I wouldn't say stunned, but if you started tossing around names,
he probably wasn't when you were tossing around. But you know,
I know people are banging the drum for Russell Wilson,
and I mean, let's face it, there's been four teams,
three teams in a row that have given up on
that guy. There's a reason for that, right, I mean,
there just is. And then there's also the diva stuff
that comes with it, and maybe it's unfair, and maybe
(01:36):
I've not been in a locker room with Russell, so
I've never had an interaction with Russell, so maybe that's
completely unfair. But it just wasn't gonna be the fit.
And then you know, Jamis is fun. I mean he's fun,
but he's Jake b downing three interceptions, three touchdowns fun.
That's not much fun, right, I mean, it's just not.
The cousin's thing was interesting. Depends on how you would
(01:56):
have done the contract machinations, how much you would have
been on the hook four, because maybe it would have
been worthwhile because you're gonna need a back up next
season and maybe he could be that guy. But a
ten million dollars backups a lot. I mean, so yeah,
I mean where you fell here, I'm okay with it.
I mean he didn't move my needle a ton. If
you use advanced metrics, you know, Jake Brown's the worst
(02:18):
one in the league. And guess who's right above him
next door in the league. It's Shoe Flacco. But I
do think this offense is interesting because he still has
that big arm. They still have a lot of quick
stuff where you know, make a quick read, get it
out of your hands, and I think that's where Jake
was really struggling. He just was having a hard time
with progressions and making quick reads and making quick decisions.
I don't think that'll be a problem for Joe Flacco.
(02:40):
I am a little stun You signed the guys on
a Tuesday, and he's gonna start a game on a Sunday.
I really thought whoever they signed, it would almost be Jason.
Get a couple more starts, and maybe he works his
way out of this, and you know, after that, through
that Thursday night game, because it's a quick week, then
we'll go in a different direction with the guy we
brought in. Because we've gotten up to speed. This tells
you how desperate they were, right, I mean, they'd had enough,
(03:01):
they'd seen enough. They didn't think they could win with
Jake any longer, and so you had to pull the trigger. Again.
It doesn't move my needle much because again, I don't
know what to expect. I know what I've seen, and
what i've seen has been eh. Yeah, I've seen from
Jake has beenah. So I get it, and I'm a
big fan of Jakes. It just didn't work, and I'm
so stunned it didn't. I'm I'm probably the most surprised
(03:22):
person it didn't work because what I saw in those
seven games in twenty three was a capable quarterback. What
I saw in these three games this year was the
guy we feared that would be in there in twenty
twenty three when he took his first nap.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm stunned it didn't work because my expectations weren't huge, right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I looked for competence.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I looked for just be capable, make it function, and
if it does, especially in those games against Denver and Minnesota,
that could have been enough. The fact that it cratered
the way it did and did so quickly.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I think it's actually a pretty shocking development.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah. I just never would have seen that coming. Could
I tell you he's gonna play Joe Burrow level football
for three games?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But again I saw it confident court. I saw a
guy go to a game in Jacksonville on a Monday
night when Jacksonville at the time was really good and
they cratered that season, but they were really good, and
he goes thirty two and thirty seven and helps him
win the game in overtime. They kept him in the
playoff race. I just listen, I asked. I asked Jake
that question in the press conference. I asked that that question.
(04:19):
I asked Dan Pitcher when we have him in kind
of a writer's only session, that question. And no one
seems to be able to put their finger on what's
different between Jake Browning now and Jake Browning. Then Jake
gave me a decent enough answer where you know we
had the run game going in the screen game. Okay,
you probably did, because I think your strength is using
play action, getting under center. I mean, remember we talked
about the elements of the offense with the play action
(04:41):
and the under center and the bootlegs. Well, what maybe
you incorporate that with Joe Burrow it looks so good,
well when you didn't run the football and he didn't
protect very well, and then Jake got in his own head.
I mean, I think Sunday after Sunday night, him talking
to the media Sunday night, it was almost like, yeah,
this can't go forward. He a mess at the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
With Joe Flacco, I get somebody who's who's a quick study.
He's done the quick study thing before with the Browns,
although admittedly not this quickly and at the very least
like I've seen Jamar Chase get.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Open and the ball will not come his way.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I feel like that will get rectified even if
there are mobility issues.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, no, I agree, the mobility issues are real. You
can you can mask some of that with a little
bit more more max protection. Mike Literally, you know there's
two guys in the route at number five and number one,
maybe a third there's a checkdown guy. I mean you
can do that. Teams do. There's two man routes all
the time in this league, and those are two pretty
good guys to send out. Now, then you hear that
both get doubled and where do you go with the football?
(05:39):
All those things. You know, he's willing to throw the
ball away. You know, I'm gonna put a name here
in a minute. I did it yesterday when I did
a TV segment. I got a statue quarterback. Peyton Manning
was a literal statue quarterback did okay. Now, he had
better offensive lines, and he had certainly the Marvin Harrison
uh and and Reggie Wayne and and Dallas Clark and
those guys, and so he had weapons and a running game,
(06:01):
so he had all those things going on. But he
was a statue and he did pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, you're right, I mean I'm not. I'm less worried
about that. And more, can he master the basics? And
I think Joe Flacco can and and mastering the basics
in this offense still means there's a high end that
this unit collectively can hit.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah. I think that's the part too. I like, I mean,
can you still throw it? He sure can? Okay, Now
that's that's point one. He's a very smart guy, There's
no question about that. I mean, I thought it was
really semi comedic that, I mean, they started going over
this stuff as he was being driven from Cleveland to yesterday.
But I think it shows you that, hey, we got
no time to waste, man, we got to get do
this thing. I hazact today. You know, do you scale
(06:43):
some stuff back? And he said, yeah, you gotta be
mindful of it. I mean, I don't think you're gonna
throw a whole playbook into into the game plan now
for for Joe Flacco. But I want to bet you
there's a chunk of the playbook that's probably more than
what we think that's going to be available to him.
And I will say this, it's it's made a trip
and I'm taking a driving trip as you know with
some of our friends. Yeah, it's made a trip that
(07:03):
was going to be oh gosh for going up here
to watch this again, to at least it's going to
be interesting, right one way or the others, to be
interesting good or interesting bad.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that car ride's going to be interesting. And frankly,
I think that's still the most interesting thing about this weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It might be. It just might be.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Thanks as always, man, I appreciate it. Figure that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Richard Skinner Local twelve, Local twelve dot com. We'll play
some Zach Taylor Audio. We'll hear from Gregory and John
Michael and another guy named Mike and room for you
before six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You've been listening to Football in the NATI brought to
you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon on
ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center, Mamma Graham Saved lives.
Call five one three five four pink to schedule your
annual mammogram with UC Helps Expert team. That's five one
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left shoulder approaching seventy one eastbound Batavia Road. Another accident
(08:16):
over at Webb Lane, Camargo Road. Accident at Shawnee Run Road,
and on col Raine One. More crash over at Banning Road.
I met Exelic with traffic.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
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