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October 16, 2025 10 mins
Scott Thompson and Jesy Herron are working on a documentary titled "Cradle of Coaches," which will do a very deep dive into the illustriuous history of iconic football coaches who have Miami University roots.

Scott and Jesy joined us in studio on ESPN1530. 


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whether you went to Miami University or not, I think
you're gonna love this. Cradle of Coaches is a documentary
that is being produced by Resolve, and it celebrates Miami's
football history, and if you know anything about college football
in this area, you are familiar with all the figures
whose coaching careers included stops successful stops in some way,

(00:21):
shape or form at Miami, at Miami University. And the
last trailer for this project that I saw came out
in late July, and it looks awesome, and so I
wanted to have in studio to talk about the project,
which I cannot wait for. Scott Thompson and Jesse Herron
from Resolve. It's nice to have you, folks. How are
we doing good?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You you brought cigars? I'm great.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, yes, you're gonna buy me a light jersey tomorrow.
That's gonna be. That's gonna be terrific. How are we doing?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Love and life now? Love in Miami? This is big,
is good.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
This is the sort of of project and it looks
awesome that quite frankly, I can't believe hasn't already been done.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
We've heard that quite a few times.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Actually, I think it's kind of amazing that it hasn't
been done before.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
People have talked about, oh, I.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Wanted to do this project, but it really came from
passion with Alicia Lipton, our client at Miami University. I
think it also stems from the fact that, you know,
she is the niece of Ara Parsigan, so there's that
connection there. He's one of the statues of the ten Statues,
and then President Crawford, Greg Crawford, he you know, he

(01:31):
has a connection to the statues, and he also has
a connection with Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So it's a natural fit.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, you've gotten like who's who, not just of Miami football,
but of the football world to participate in this project.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
And we still have probably three more travel shoots that
we have to do. Okay, next week we're going to
Connecticut to interview Chris Berman. Wow, people are saying, why
Chris Berman, that's really weird. Well, karm Kosa is one
of the coaches, one of the juice. Karen was at
Yale for those years. Chris was friends with him, being
through Yale, a lot of Connecticut connections. I'm going to

(02:07):
interview two of the players that played for Karen and
then we're heading to LSU and then Button Rouge for
Paul Dietzel, Oh wow, and doing a couple of guys
down there. But it is I mean, it's the people
that we've been able to access every time. And Jesse
can speak to this too because she's producing. This is
the access has always been, like, you know, we'll call
the Rams, we'll call the Ravens and they'll say, you know, hey,

(02:30):
Sean McVay, you can have them for twenty minutes, and
we say we need ninety, we need an hour and
a half, and they laughed at us.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
They do they actually laugh. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And then we say, okay, well tell Sean it's from Miami.
And then we get a call back and said, okay,
when are you guys gonna be here? You gonna have
all day with them?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
These guys just they love Miami so much. That and
the same with Harba. Harboy sat down and was like,
I'm here all day for you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
What do you look real? It's just chat for hours. Yeah.
They just love it.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
And he sang the fight song, which I think is
probably one of my favorite moments behind the scenes moments.
He just sat down and we started talking. We brought
up the fight song and he just started singing it
the full fight.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's pretty cool. Yeah, is spending all that time with
you guys? Why he like hasn't fixed his defense?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
No fair or months ago?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yes, he might have a lot of time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I see these headlines and like, well, zach Orr is
on the chopping block. I'm like, no, please, let's wait
this out.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So, like we we know the figures, right, we know
that all the figures the Cradle of Coaches. You well,
but that but that was going to be my thing.
I think a lot of us have surface level knowledge.
But then you do a deep dive and I'm sure
that that's what the documentary is going to do, but
give us some things that maybe going into this you're like, wow,
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think it's the guy. Well, look, I'm not from
here originally, I lived here twenty six years. This is
home for me. But you know it's the names like Era.
You know, I think I think Paul Brown is Ohio.
But then when you think about like, well you think
about Era, and you think all I knew from Eric
was watching Rudy and seeing Aaron that and was like wow,
this guy's But I wasn't a huge I'm not a
I'm not a I'm not a Catholic, So I didn't

(04:03):
grow up loving Notre Dame. And then but I knew
who this guy was. And then I hear and then like, oh,
this guy absolutely bled Miami. This guy was all Miami.
And I'm thinking, no, this, this guy's Notre Dame. And
my believing Miami takes ownership of ERA, and ERA has
a huge history, and then with the Northwestern and and
and Notre Dame. But really everything started at Miami. And

(04:26):
you look at web U Bank and I don't really
know much about web but I knew that he was
coach of Super Bowl three, super Bowl three and NFL champion,
the greatest game ever played. And then you think, oh,
this is weep. We then moved back to Oxford lived
there had this old basement he usedon white players would.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Come behind the critique practices to which I had to
be really funny. Yeah, they had like someone looking out
for him, like when his car was coming to practice. Yeah,
and they would like have somebody sound off an alarm
or someone alert like oh my god, he's coming, Like
don't run play because he's going to critique it.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
I also want to add, like, you know, one of
the coaches that I thought was really interesting is coach
John Pott. I mean he actually went to Japan and
helped really like create football in Japan, which I think
is so really cool too.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I started the program at Joe Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, I mean there's so many of those little anecdotes
that I was like, oh, huh, right, it came from Miami.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
So the project is being produced as we speak, and
so when could we expect to see it?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And where can we expect to see it?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Ooh, good question on the where that is to be determined.
So we're having some really great conversations and you know
when we were we were talking about this a little
bit yesterday, right, So the questions were could we maybe
see it on like a Hulu or a Netflix or
you know, that's the goal. The goal is to have
it on a streaming platform and it should be coming
out fall of.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
So that's the timeframe I think leading up to that, right,
we've got different screenings and things that are going to
be coming through.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean, we've had opportunities.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
So we talked with the one of the owners of
the Commanders, Mitch Rails, and he was like, yeah, of course, definitely,
let's have a screening here too.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
So the tentacles of this thing kind of spread out.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
It's not just the Cincinnati area because it did stem
from Miami University, but some of these people have obviously
gone on to the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Jaguars, wherever.
So we've got a lot of tentacles in the NFL
and in college football.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, Mitch, Mitchrails is a Miami grad. Every time we
there's no roadblocks. Believe me, this is this project has
been great. But anytime we have a question, they go, oh, yeah,
well that guy, there's a Miami grad at NBC Sports.
There's a Miami grad at Netflix. We'll get you hooked up.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I'm like, you know, I've been working in this business
twenty six years. That doesn't happen. No, you know, normally
you're like, oh crap, I got to call every gatekeeper
to get to someone and I don't know who that
person is.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, course a wide open because it's Miami. Yeah, that's
that's pretty neat. We're relatively small school. No, we're sure.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, it's not uh, you know when you think of
like broadcasting of the Syracuse right, massive, Northeastern school huge, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Even Ohio you know they're they're state, well Ohio University
that you know, their big rival has scripts has this huge,
you know, and you would think, oh, this would be
easy with with you know, someone like that now because
it's it's all these through lines that we have as leadership.
And then at Miami and it's not just football leaders
that you know, CEO of Starbucks currently Miami grad, CEO

(07:25):
of this company, CEO, the president of this company, all
Miami grads, right, So it's it's actually knock on wood.
It's been pretty easy to get into these doors. Yeah,
you know, it's interesting. I mentioned this to you a
month or so ago. We've had interactions with two folks
in media that I had no idea were Miami.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
We had Terrence More on our show.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, a few weeks I wrote a new book about
the big Red Machine. You talk about somebody who wears
their Miami pride on their sleeve. And then Clinton Yates ESPN,
who's on our on our air. We had him on
our show and he just mentioned it to me.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I had no idea. Yeah, because they're so humble, that's
what it is. Yes, we are sure.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
They're not boasting. And it's expectations too. Is you know,
I think when you think about all these guys and
you think about oh well, Terrence Moore and Clinia all
these guys, You're like, oh, well, you know, it's they
come from a big school. They come from Texas, Penn State,
Ohio State or whatever. Nope, right that little school up
in Oxford.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, And I think what'll be cool about this is
it's going to tell a football story, but it's gonna
tell a Miami story that isn't necessarily about football.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
And high school in Ohio. Sure, football and in high
school in Ohio, because it is we have a farm
system here that other states don't have. Florida and Texas
are going to say yeah, But at this point, I'm like,
let's be the first one to come out and boast
about it, because Ohio and Miami aren't the ones that
are saying we're the best. We're the best, we're the best.
Texas and Florida say that all the time. Right, this

(08:44):
is our chance to get out there and say, no,
football is invented here, we own.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We owned football. Yeah, football belongs to us absolutely, that's right.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
So next fall follow twenty twenty six, apparently by then
I'll finish go through puberty fall of twenty twenty six, right,
and and we'll be looking for it.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And in the meantime you can get you know, additional content,
sneak peaks, those kinds of things on the Instagram channel.
So it's the Cradle of Coaches Instagram. But you really
can google Cradle of Coaches documentary at this point and
find a ton of our content, which is awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And there it is, Wow, very cool.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You've established a new precedent that all in studio guests
have to bring cigars a half box. A half box, yeah,
we would stand. We would up with one. That would
have been fun. I am excited to see this. I
texted you out of the blue, and normally if I'm
texting you, it's to needle you about something. And I said,
like that that documentary trailer, which was not the first one,

(09:41):
looks looks terrific and and I genuinely can't wait to
see this, and please keep us up to date on
how things are going.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And of course if I can help.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
I have no remote idea, a couple of doors that
still need to be open.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'll definitely be asking.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
You about something, probably lanswer somebody.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
I'm asking everybody about this one person I can't get.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, all right, Cradle of Coaches on Instagram or just
pretty much search it and folks can.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Absolutely learn more about it. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
There's going to be a Cradle of Coaches game at
Miami University too, so that's kind of fun. That's coming
up in November.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Wow, okay, maction game, action game yep, middle the week.
I do love some action now.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, number twelfth, twelve, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
No question about it.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Guys, Thank you so much, Thank you, Jesse Hern, Scott Thompson,
Resolve Cradle of Coaches. Look for it. The teaser does.
It's going to make you like me, just sit there
and go, man, when's this going to come out? So
it's going to be a while, but the way it
will be worth it. It is sixteen away from six o'clock.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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