February 26, 2026 • 42 mins
Should short arms matter when grading a NFL prospect? Plus, the UC v. Brendan Sorsby legal battle should be fun. Chad Brendel hits on that topic and talks Bearcats Basketball. And Apple TV's Dax McCarty talks FC Cincinnati.
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With the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
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All right, what's up Moager, ESPN fifteen thirty, Thanks for listening.
Should short arms matter? Oh, that's the big topic today
up in Indianapolis. We'll go there coming up at four
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I'm here for. Xavier loses last night, Nku wins. We'll discuss.
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I mentioned before. We're gonna go to Indianapolis coming up
at four thirty five and talk about Reuben Bain and
is his arm length the Brendan Sorosby thing. Will discuss
in further detail a little bit later on. Chad Brendle's
going to join us at three forty five to talk
about Soresby versus you see and UC Bearcat basketball on
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the heels of Tuesday's loss to Texas Tech. So we
today found out that Rubin Bain, who look may or
may not be there when the Bengals go on the
clock with the tenth overall pick, has historically short arms
thirty and seven a seven inch And this has been
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talked about really since midway through his final season in college,
when the production was off the charts. Twenty and a
half sacks during his college career, nine and a half
last season, fifty four tackles, a forest fumble had a pick.
If you watched him in the Big Ten title game,
I'm sorry. If you watched him in the National title game,
the hell I'm thinking there. If you watched him in
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the National Title Game, even though Miami lost in Ena,
he was spectacular, He was awesome. You could not help
but watch him that night and imagine what it might
what it would be like to have him in stripes.
But all along, as his season played out and as
the draft process has started, people have talked about his
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arm length. Today, his arm measurements length, the arm measurements
were made public for what it's worth. David Bailey from
Texas Tech, who is viewed as a lot to be
a first rounder has arms that are being measured as
thirty three and five as of an inch, so basically
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three inches longer than ruben Bain. And there's a whole
bunch of other players who play ruben Bain's position and
they've come in with marks of thirty two plus or
thirty three plus, and for comparison's sake, for what it's worth,
because you could see that number and go, Okay, I
don't know if that's long or short. I'll be the
first man I ain't know it. I saw that. I'm like, okay,
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is that long as short? Well? Because people keep track
of such things. The only edge rushers to have shorter
arms since nineteen ninety nine than Reuben Bain or Cash
as how and Nate Williams. That is it so historically
short arms? Now you know who knows dude? That dude
might not be there when the Bengals go on the clock.
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Maybe he's there, and maybe Caleb Downs is there. And
Caleb Downs is being called like the greatest safety prospect
that some of these draft knicks have ever studied. And
I said this to Paul Danner Junior last week. When
you hear smart people talk about Caleb Downs. After breaking
down his tape, you almost almost get aroused, and you
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start to think about and salivate over what that dude
can do in a Bengals uniform, if he was available
and if the Bengals took him. But I think the
Ruben Bain conversation is interesting because we just did something
somewhat similar last year. The Bengals leaned into traits. Now
with Shamar Stewart, the traits were off the charts, right.
(04:07):
The measurables, the stuff that you could hold a stopwatch
too or put a measuring tape on. The measurables were
off the charts, And like I do believe we focused
a little bit too much on the relatively low sack total,
not even relatively the low sack total, because he was disruptive.
He frequently beat his blocker. He did impact plays from
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a positive perspective at Texas A and M, but he
didn't finish plays. He didn't get to the quarterback and
finish the play and get a sack as often as
you would like for a player who plays his position
that you're gonna use a first round pick on. So
what the Bengals lean into. They leaned into the traits.
So Duke Tobin has said pass rush is king, Like
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that's from Duke Tobin. If there's one takeaway from either
of Duke Tobin's two press conferences that he has had
since the end of the season last year, it's a
that he's the guy who traded for Joe Flacco and
b pass rush is king. Duke Tobin telling you that
would suggest they're going to go heavy into upgrading the
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pass rush. Now, the first wave is obviously free agency.
Are there starting caliber edges? Are there starting caliber defensive tackles?
Can they use free agency to make the pass rush
better and then combine that with players from last year
like Miles Murphy who feels like an ascending player and
like Shamar Stewart who they're not going to give up on.
Can they take what they have add from outside in
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free agency and make the pass rush significantly better? But
if pass rush is king, it would suggest that statement
would suggest that even if they address pass rush and
free agency, they're not gonna stop there, which means if
a guy like Ruben Bain is there at ten, then
you at least have to consider the possibility that the
Bengals would take them. Where are they going to be
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with traits? When and if that is the scenario, because
it was easy to look at last year and say,
what what they should do is care less about the
traits and look more at the production. And I would
agree with that, I think, frankly right now most of
us would. And part of it is a reaction to
just the rookie season that Shamar Stewart had, which you know,
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he got hurt and that was really the big story
to his rookie season. But last year it was ignore
the traits, ignore the traits, focus more on what the
dude puts on tape. If you're doing that with Ruben Bain,
I mean, just go watch, go look the tape. Don't lie.
He is disruptive, he is powerful, He can come at
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you with a variety of different moves like he's everything
you're looking for if you're trying to upgrade your pass
rush via the draft, if you're just looking at it
through the lens of production. If we want the Bengals
to do what many said we want them to do
last year, then we're sort of we're not totally discounting
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the arm length, but it's it's not going to be
the major variable that influences the decision to not take
them that dramatically influences the decision to not take them,
or do the Bengals have their way of doing things
and go, you know what, we love the production. The
production is awesome. But yeah, there was abundantly good production.
But you know what, this one measurable and by the way,
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all the other measurables are fine. Like, there's not a
lot else to not like about Ruben Baine if you're
looking at you know, measurables size, Wait, how he runs
all that sort of stuff. I do think this is
interesting and like I think a lot of us want
to do just what comes naturally, and it's it's lean
(07:42):
into what we've seen. Like again, man, I watched that
National championship game and I was rooting for Indiana, but
I couldn't help stop but thinking about Ruben Bain and like, dude,
who knows if that dude's going to be there? Who
knows if? Who knows who knows how free agency is
gonna unfold? Who knows how? Who knows how the first
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nine picks of the draft are going to unfold. Maybe
a lot of teams are scared off by the arm
length and you go, you know what, this is not
a guy we would take with a third or fourth
overall pick, but with where we are drafting, we will
gladly take him. I don't know, but they measure arm
size and arm length for a reason. So the fact
that they measure for it would tell you that it's
not something that anybody is necessarily going to ignore. It
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will be fascinating to see if he's available. If the
Bengals say, you know what, this year, we're gonna go
more for what we're seeing on tape and we're gonna
let that sort of I don't know outweigh this one
basic measurable metric arm length, or or does a team
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that leans into traits say, you know what, we're leaning
into traits and with this there's this one thing we
don't like and so we're gonna go in another direction.
I don't know how you don't take him if he's there,
unless you want to draft Caleb Downs. And again, very
good question as to whether or not he'll be there,
because many are calling him a top two or three
player in this draft. And then there's the whole question
of positional value how much they should value safety with
(09:10):
a top ten pick. We're not done talking about Reuben
Bain's arm length, not just today, but over the course
of the next two months. More on that coming up
here in just a bit. The news broke yesterday right
around five o'clock that the University of Cincinnati is suing
Brendan Soresby, who obviously played for UC the last two
(09:32):
years and is now said to be the starting quarterback
at Texas Tech, where he reportedly is going to make
five million dollars. The school is suing their former quarterback
in federal court, saying that he breached his NIL contract
when he refused to pay a one million dollar exit
(09:53):
fee once he transferred to Texas Tech. U SEE is
looking for one million dollars in liquidated damage. School says
Sowresby was contractually obligated to pay within thirty days of
transferring reportedly signed an NIL agreement with Texas Tech that's
going to pay him. I'm reading from the AP story
here between four and six million dollars, The school says.
(10:13):
Quote in his lucrative NIL agreement with Cincinnati Athletics, Brendan
Sowersby committed a play and to stay and play for
two years as a proud Bearcat. Representative also agreed that
if he left the university before that time, he would
pay the university a specific amount for the substantial harm
that his breach would cause. Cincinnati Athletics intends to enforce
(10:34):
that contractual commitment as stewards of the university's resources, the
athletics department as a duty to do so, and then
they went on to thank Brendan for his time and
wish him success in the future. This is going to
be interesting to me because we've wondered with a lot
(10:55):
of these nil deals and revenue sharing agreements. We've wondered
about the enforcement, if you will, how binding these contracts are.
And this is not U see being petty. It's it's
U see feeling like he an agreement that we went
into was violated and be trying to recoup a million dollars,
which is a really big deal. And like, your guess
(11:17):
is as good as mine as to whether or not
this goes to court. It certainly does add a dimension
to the UC Texas Tech game next season, which was
already going to be interesting because of Brendan Sorosby's presence
on the Red raiders. But like the way I look
at this, and you know who knows. But if we
want these contracts to be valid, if we want them
(11:38):
to be binding, then you know, then you can't You
can't blame a school. Can't blame a player either if
he feels like his contract has been breached. But you
can't blame a school for going Look, we had an agreement,
it got breached. We're owed money, we haven't gotten it yet.
We're going to court. Like that's kind of how it
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works in the real world. If this gets shot down
based on just the basics of what we know, then
what's to stop anybody from breaching I can't say it.
What's to stop anybody from breaching a contract? What's to
stop anybody from just walking away from a deal that
they agreed to? Brendan Soaresby agreed to a deal at
the end of the twenty twenty four season that u
(12:19):
SE says was a two year contract that was they
believe binding through the end of the upcoming regular season.
And so the dude leaves, if he leaves, was supposed
to give UC a million dollars, hasn't done it yet.
I'll know about you, But where I work. If I
break my contract, I subject myself to a lawsuit. It
will be fascinating to see and hear how the courts
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Chase Burns on the hill for Cincinnati. A Uhaneo Souarez,
Ellie Dela Cruz, Matt McClain, Spencer Steer, Noel ve Marte, TJ.
Friedel all in the starting lineup today. Elie Dela Cruz,
(14:14):
by the way, has just hit a triple, So the
Reds have a guy on third. Bottom of the first inning,
game of scoreless. Chase Burns got through the first inning
without giving up a run. He did surrender one hit.
We had Sal Stewart hitting a home run yesterday. You know,
we could do this about a lot of different guys
on the team. But like, imagine, imagine how the season unfolds.
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If Matt McClain ends up being able to replicate over
the course of an entire season, the production we saw
over the course of roughly ninety games three years ago.
Now that's a big ask, and by the way, that
was a very very small sample size for Matt McClain.
But the Rats have a lot faith in him. Imagine
(15:01):
what it is like if he rewards their faith and
sal Stewart ends up just from a power perspective, having
the sort of season that we all believe he can have.
Like that, like bookend that like put Matt McLain in
the two hole. We'll see if he starts the season
there and uh bat sal Stewart six. By the way,
(15:25):
Matt McLain is hitting second today. He struck out in
the first inning for what it's worth, which is not
much like. Just the key that those two guys individually
and together hold for this season is something that we
will talk about a lot just over the next month.
If you can get the sort of production they were
(15:46):
expecting from Matt McLain a year ago and the sort
of production from Sal Stewart that is an extended version
of what we saw from him late in the season
last year, then that's really where this offense and offense
can go from being you know, kind of middle of
the pack to something that's much much better I was
(16:08):
I was gonna say elite. I'm not gonna go with elite,
but much much, much much better. More on that later
on the college basketball from last night. We had Rick
Bring on the show yesterday talking Xavier and NKU basketball.
Both teams were in action last night. Xavier falls to
Providence in a game that they lose by ten points.
(16:29):
I don't know that the score is really reflective of
how non competitive that game was at times. There was
a stretch midway through the first half where Xavier defensively
was as bad as I've seen them this year defensively,
and that stretch was one of the worst defensive stretches
we've seen, I think from any team, certainly in the region,
(16:52):
at any point this year. Richard Patino after the game
on his team's lack of defensive identity.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, we just have a zero defensive you know, just identity.
We tried three different pick and roll coverages, we tried
two different zones. You know, it's just really hard to
win that way. Made some more shots in the second half. Offensively,
a little bit rattled in the first half, but obviously
(17:23):
shot sixty one percent in the second half, but you
know when you let a team they had two turnovers
for the majority of the game, and you know, a
lot of that's isolation basketball, so sometimes that I can
turn it over, but we just could not get a
stop to save our life.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Third straight loss for the Musketeers. Richard on with Joe
and Byron on fifty five KRC. Three consecutive losses, five
losses in six games, eight out of ten And like
I think most of us have watched Davier this year
and we've arrived at the conclusion that Richard Patino is
the guy because it has felt like he has got
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as much out of that roster as you could ask.
There's a huge talent efficiency. Now it also sort of
feels like they're they're on the they're on the cusp
of limping to the finish line here and there. They're
home for Georgetown, who they beat in the game where
Ed Cooley threw a water bottle at the end of
it in late December. That feels like forever ago. They
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have Seaton Hall here. They're gonna be underdogs in that game,
I believe, and they have to go to Villanova. They
will be underdogs in that game. They're five and twelve
in league play like it, it's gonna feel unfulfilling if
limping to the finish line includes three consecutive losses and
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you end the regular season with eighteen ls. In the
grand scheme of things, that may not matter because ultimately
what they need is better players. And I think it's
gonna be really interesting when you know we're getting set
for the season next year, to see how much better
the Xavier talent is at the beginning of next season
compared to what we've watched so far for twenty eight games.
And they got back in the game offensively in the
(19:06):
second half. They were at Xavier at their best this
year has been fun to watch. Offensively, they've run, they've
converted at a pretty good rate near the rim, better
than certainly back in November, and they did some of
that last night, But frankly, it just it felt like
at that point garbage time came really early last night.
In Providence, NKU wins last night go to Cleveland State
(19:26):
beat the Vikings eighty one to seventy. Donovan Oday with
a perfect night twenty two points on eight of eight
shooting from the field, two of two from behind the ark,
and four for four from the free throw line. LJ.
Wells with his fifth double double twenty four and twelve
for the Norse last night, who improved to ten and
nine in Horizon League play, and we discussed the tournament
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format with Rick Browing yesterday. You can hear that conversation
on the iHeartRadio app. Speaking of which, we had Paul
Danner Junior on the show yesterday from the combine on
like the aftermath of what Duke Tobin had to say
in Zach Taylor's comments and talking with Al Golden and
Paul as always was terrific. If you did not hear
(20:10):
that chat, you should go listen to it now or
later on. And we also had on I know a
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So we had on Lindsay Roads yesterday. Lindsey for years
was on the NFL Network, hosted NFL All Access and
now she's with Sumer Sports, and we had like a
real kind of wonky we'll go with wonky analytical but
fun conversation about the combine and what we should be
(20:53):
paying attention to this week. We ended the interview by
talking about hotel room beds, which hoole unimportant. But the
other stuff, like the first thirteen fourteen minutes of it
was terrific. So if you missed that, take it from
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FC Cincinnati. Last night, they clobbered O and MFC and
the CONCACAF Champions Cup nine nothing to score. We got
a glimpse into some of FC Cincinnati's youth last night.
Now they turned back to Major League Soccer play and
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FC Cincinnati last night in the Cockacab Champions Cup scored
nine goals over a O and MFC. They've outscored them
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they got up to a good start in MLS regular
season play. The opener last Saturday, a two nothing victory
over Atlanta. Now the Orange and Blue will hit the
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road for a Saturday afternoon match against Minnesota. You can
watch the match on Apple TV, where you will see
in studio the coverage by somebody that we've had on
the show a number of times over the last couple
of years, Dax McCarty. Who is with us right now, Dax,
It's awesome to have you. Good afternoon. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Great?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Guys? How are we doing? That was quite the offensive
outburst last night, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Huh yeah, you know, Wei, yeah, yeah, really, we got
a glimpse into FC Cincinnati's youth, which was really cool.
How many times in your career, pro or amateur were
you a part of a match where a team scored
nine goals and were you ever on the receiving end
of it?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Absolutely not, ever on the receiving end of something like that.
I think if you're an MLS team and you're on
the receiving end of a nine to zero result or
four line, and I think it's time to hang them up.
But I was on you know, I was on the
right side of a seven zero victory in a very
big Darby game. New York Red Bulls NYCFC. I don't
(24:12):
need to bring it up. If any NYC fans get
a hold of this audio, they're gonna hate me even
more than they already do. But nine goals in a game,
I mean, doesn't matter who the opponent is. That's definitely
something to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I had I had two thoughts. One was this
is awesome, this is fun, and the other wise you
might need some of those on Saturday. What do we
learn about FC Cincinnati in the match against Atlanta? Well,
I think you.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Learned that they have a little bit of depth to
be able to handle what, hopefully, I believe Pat Newton confirmed,
is not a serious injury to Evander. I think FC
Cincinnati fans have known for a couple of years now.
What a fantastic I guess you'd call him a reserve,
But what a fantastic compliment to a Vander that Dotto
Valezuela is. He came in, he didn't miss a beat,
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he kept things ticking. He doesn't have, at this moment
in time, the same. I guess you could call it
final third killer instinct that Evander has. But Valezuela is
a soccer player. He is a great, great soccer player.
He's got a really bright future and I want to
see him with more opportunities to be on the field
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more and I hope it doesn't have to come at
the expense of an injury to Evander. But I think
Cincinnati fans will will find out a lot more about
their team in the next couple of weeks in Pat
Noonan how he has evolved things tactically to try to
make up for not only losing your one of your
best players, one of the best players in the league,
but also how you can continue to evolve from being
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just a very good regular season team to then carrying
that over into the playoffs. And so it was a
professional performance against Atlanta United. I was able to watch
back most of that game, and it was comfortable. They
looked comfortable. They missed a couple of golden opportunities, but
you got big moments in the match. Cincinnati got the
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big moments in the match, especially in the second half.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right, I was thinking the worst, as most of his
sports fans do, when a Vander went down the other night.
It feels like they've dodged something really serious, which is good,
I do think, though it provides an interesting test because
and I think you could say this about FC Cincinnati
going back to when Lucho Acosta was here, it felt
like there were times where they leaned on him a
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little bit too much. And then I would say the
same about Avander last year, and he was up to
the task and they had a good season. But I
do think like that's been one of the storylines this year,
like can you find offense without him on the field,
And while you want him and you are breathing a
huge sigh relief that it feels like this is not
going to be something all that serious. I do think
it provides them a chance to pass an early season test,
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just to see if they can generate more offense without him.
What do you say to that.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's a wonderful point. And I put a Vander in
the same category as I would an Anders Dryer, a
Lionel Messi, Denny Bowonga, a Sun Hung Men, a superstar
who can win a game for you at the drop
of a hat. That is what Evander is and that
is why he is one of the best players in
Major League soccer. And that's why Pat Noonan is gonna
(27:15):
say ten times out of ten, well, I I want
him on the field, and I want him healthy, but
you also want a plan B in a Plan CE,
and sometimes whether that's through manufactured rest or whether that's
through a small injury, you are able to find out
more about your team when some of these players aren't
on the field. I would love to see Pat Noonan
be able to incorporate Valenzuela into the lineup even when
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Evander is healthy, because there are times where FC Cincinnati
I think they're going to dominate the game based on
the quality of players that they have. I would love
to see them put more attacking players on the field
that are able to find different solutions. And I thought
Pat Noonan got the balance right against Atlanti and Nighted.
It was a surprise to me to see Jabbari up
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top from the start. I mean, look, maybe I don't
I didn't follow them too closely in preseason. Maybe that
wasn't a surprise to Cincinnati fans, but he impressed me.
He's a big body. He provides you a different profile
to say a Brenner. He's more of a Robin to
Evander and Kevin Denk. If they're Batman right, you have
you need another guy on the field. Who's willing to
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do the dirty work, who's willing to have hold up play,
who's willing to make unselfish plays and unselfish runs to
open up space for your superstars. And so I was
impressed with Jabbari's performance. I was impressed with Brian Ramirez.
Pat Noonan went out of his way to praise him
after the game. And by the way, what is it
with FC Cincinnati being able to find these absolutely fantastastic
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left foot wing backs.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't what what is where is.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Chris Albright shopping? Because first it was alvar Obarial and
then you lost him, you replaced him with Origiano, who
looked like a match winner, and then you get rid
of Origiano and now you have Ramirez, who looks like
a fantastic addition and a great piece to the puzzle.
So I've just been really impressed continually with Chris Albright
and his ability to go and replace important players and
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make sure that Pat Noonan is constantly able to refresh
this roster.
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It's going to be a Saturday afternoon match on Saturday afternoon,
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this weekend, We'll do it against you and thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
My pleasure. Anytime you need me, I'm always available.
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Good luck you guys, most definitely love having you on.
Thanks so much, Dax McCarty. Apple TV FC Cincinnati afternoon
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sigh of relief being breathed at the vander injury which
I was watching that unfold on social media and you
could understand why I've see Cincinnati fans were apprehensive. It
feels like they have dodged a major bullet in relation
to his injury. Seventeen away from four o'clock, Chad Brendle
on the Bearcats and Soresby versus U See.
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Twelve away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty
l Oeger. Thank you for listening. Thursdays we talk you
see sports with our guy Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal dot
com man who hosted this show on Monday and Tuesday
of this week. And there's a lot to discuss, hi chat.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I know, I think I'm hosting the show Thursday and
Friday also of next week, and then I.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Believe the following Monday, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And Monday. Yeah? Is that your spring training trip?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's the annual spring training track? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
you and you and Jimmy have a good time counting
down the counting down the minutes. Not gonna lie to
you counting down the minutes to uh my first Arizona beer.
No question, Uh is UC versus Brendan Soresby ever actually
gonna make it to a courtroom.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I mean, I have no cluemo. This thing seems so
cut and dry, but it's all built on such a
house of cards that I mean, I guess there's a
way for them to prove through Ohio law that it
wasn't a binding contract. But I mean, if these things
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aren't by like, what are we doing well? If you
can't sign a guy to a two year contract and
then hold them to the buyout in that contract, like
this thing, it's not sustained. I mean, it already doesn't
feel sustainable if this wins in court. Like, I don't know, man,
(32:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Do you think do you think that Joe Royer should
sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing him the football?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Maybe? Yeah, breach a contract?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
They were roommates, so maybe there's like, you know, something
in there that they could he could go after. I mean,
I don't know, there's got to be a way that
I just don't I don't understand it. You you did,
you see get value out of having Brendan Soresby back
for this year from January to October. Absolutely, can they
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sue him back for November?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Here's what I want to know. So you see plays
Texas Tech on October the twenty fourth, it's it's Cincinnati's homecoming.
They have the reigning Big Twelve champs in for homecoming.
Have we ever had a college football game where there's
been active litigation between one of the schools in the
game and one of the players on the other team.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You think might like, would there be a like if
he doesn't pay, would there be like a warrant out
for his arrests? Would the fuzz be with those would
those like you know, the guys that lee and those
guys that they pay for security down on the field,
would they be able to like go arrest Brendan Soresby
and warm ups?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Wouldn't that be a scene that would be fun? Yes,
that would be That would be yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That would being the Bearcat get arrested right about a
closing teams quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So that's that's one of the things I might really
like about this era of college sports that we're in
is we're going to have schools suing players and then
those players having to play against the school, the school
that suit them, and it just it it ratchet is
it ratchets things up a little bit? And I'm here
for it.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah. I I don't know, man, Like you made a
lot of money at you see, Brendan, you made a
lot of money going to Texas Tech. Like to me,
you know what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
No one these crooked ass agents in college are taking
twenty percent off the top of these contracts.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean, is this guy acting the way he is
his agent because it's gonna cost him two hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right? Yeah, h fair question. Chad brenda Is at Journal
dot com. Hey, I get it. I am amused by
the fact that you have a school suing a player
who may play against him in October, Like, well, you
won't play against him in October barring injury, and we'll
see if there's still active litigation. But no, man, I'm
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your basic premise. I agree with if if you can't
enforce this contract, then legitimately, what are we doing? And
we ask that somewhat rhetorically, but in an era where
you know, the entire foundation of college sports seems to
have never been flimsier than it is right now. Contracts
may be the last thing holding it up. And so
if we decide that they're null and void and can't
be enforced, then then what's the point of any of us.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, here's the question, bro. If Brendan Sorsby plays
two games last year and suffers an injury that you know,
God forbid severely limits the rest of his playing career,
could Cincinnati have backed out of that two year contract
and said we're not paying twenty twenty six Because I'm
guessing if that was the case, Brendon Soorsby's lawyers would
(36:14):
be knocking on Cincinnati's door saying, we want our money.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, let's switch gears. Can the Bearcats win the remaining
three regular season basketball games?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Can they? Sure? I mean, I was busy working the
other night and I got done working and I looked
up and UCF was up seventy five to thirty on
BYU seventy five to thirty. Now, in the next sixteen minutes,
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I think BYU scored something like fifty six points in
the next sixteen minutes. So beating them is not going
to be easy. But I mean, Oklahoma State is struggling
right now, their best, second best player gets hurt in
the final five seconds of overtime in that West Virginia game.
(37:19):
You should have an advantage there. BYU, you know a
lot of it. I think a lot of BYU. Devans
is gonna get his he's incredible. Can you shut down
Rob Right? If you can shut down Rob Right and
they don't have Richie Saunders Sanders like you got a
chance against BYU. I mean the toughest one might be TCU.
(37:42):
At home, they're on the bubble, they're gonna be playing
for their tournament life. Jamie Dixon's teams over the past
couple of years have historically been significantly better at home
than they are on the road. That one's gonna be
I mean b YU and tc You're both gonna be
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really difficult. But I mean that TCU one boy, and
that would be kind of the epitome of what we've
gone through the last five years. Right, they win these two,
now everybody's got them in the next four out, the
first four out. Can they get this last win and
then pop goes the bubble?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Do you subscribe to the belief that they have a
chance if they win the next three, and then two
in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
What I subscribe to, what you should subscribe to is
Bearcat Journal dot com. What I don't subscribe to MO
is that conference tournaments matter at all anymore. Yeah, I
just don't think the election committee good.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I was gonna say. I think if there's been one
takeaway about this entire process that I've had for the
last decade, it's exactly what you just said.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
They don't matter at all. They don't care. Like especially
the last probably five years, there's been multiple cases of
if this team wins one or two in the conference tournament,
they're playing their way in, and then that team's on
like the next four out like they weren't even close.
So there's a million bits of evidence here showing us.
(39:18):
I mean, maybe it's like, you know, you beat Arizona
and Houston on your way to the Big twelve title game,
but those odds are not great. So if you're gonna
get it done, you gotta win these next three. Let
the chips fall where they may. I think they probably
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have dug themselves a hall that's too deep. I do
think there was if they had won at Texas Tech.
I thought there was a path, yes, because that would
have been another top fifteen type road win that really
would have enhanced your resume. You know, beating BYU at
home is gonna help. But I don't think anybody's gonna
(40:01):
look at that and go, damn, that's that's a team
that we've got to put in. So I don't think
the tournament, the Big Twelve Tournament, helps any Maybe you
get right there to the cut line, if you go
three and oh to end the regular season, I just
don't think there's enough meat on the bone that's gonna
(40:22):
get them over that hurdle.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right now, you and I talked last Thursday. The Bearcats
were in the middle of a three game winning streak
that had it felt like change the conversation about Wes
Miller's future. What did saturdays blowout win at Kansas do
for that conversation.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I mean it solidified some of the belief that there's
a chance he can play his way back into consideration
and rightfully so, like you know, you go to Kansas
to be Kansas by sixteen, fully healthy Kansas. Since Darreon
Peterson plays the entire game, you know, nothing fluky happened
(41:05):
in that game that that was just Cincinnati played better
than Kansas, you know, it certainly helps. I still think
it's going to be a really hard sell to the
fan base if they don't make the NCAA tournament. But
there are people that you know, they donate more to
(41:27):
U see than I'll make in a decade. Those people
have a lot of weight, and I think that there's
a portion of that group that really likes Wes Miller
and wants to see him succeed in this job. And
if they're ten and eight, you know, if they went
out and they still miss the tournament, but they're ten
(41:47):
and eight in the Big twelve, and you know, they
they prove kind of in Big twelve play that they
were legitimate. I there's there's you know, there's a decent
chance you see him back for year six.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Good stuff as always, man, I will uh, I'll talk
to you in two weeks. Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Enjoy Arizona, though
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I most definitely will next Wednesday, four o'clock ESPN fifteen
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With the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
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I mentioned before. We're gonna go to Indianapolis coming up
at four thirty five and talk about Reuben Bain and
is his arm length the Brendan Sorosby thing. Will discuss
in further detail a little bit later on. Chad Brendle's
going to join us at three forty five to talk
about Soresby versus you see and UC Bearcat basketball on
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the heels of Tuesday's loss to Texas Tech. So we
today found out that Rubin Bain, who look may or
may not be there when the Bengals go on the
clock with the tenth overall pick, has historically short arms
thirty and seven a seven inch And this has been
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talked about really since midway through his final season in college,
when the production was off the charts. Twenty and a
half sacks during his college career, nine and a half
last season, fifty four tackles, a forest fumble had a pick.
If you watched him in the Big Ten title game,
I'm sorry. If you watched him in the National title game,
the hell I'm thinking there. If you watched him in
(01:57):
the National Title Game, even though Miami lost in Ena,
he was spectacular, He was awesome. You could not help
but watch him that night and imagine what it might
what it would be like to have him in stripes.
But all along, as his season played out and as
the draft process has started, people have talked about his
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arm length. Today, his arm measurements length, the arm measurements
were made public for what it's worth. David Bailey from
Texas Tech, who is viewed as a lot to be
a first rounder has arms that are being measured as
thirty three and five as of an inch, so basically
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three inches longer than ruben Bain. And there's a whole
bunch of other players who play ruben Bain's position and
they've come in with marks of thirty two plus or
thirty three plus, and for comparison's sake, for what it's worth,
because you could see that number and go, Okay, I
don't know if that's long or short. I'll be the
first man I ain't know it. I saw that. I'm like, okay,
(03:01):
is that long as short? Well? Because people keep track
of such things. The only edge rushers to have shorter
arms since nineteen ninety nine than Reuben Bain or Cash
as how and Nate Williams. That is it so historically
short arms? Now you know who knows dude? That dude
might not be there when the Bengals go on the clock.
(03:21):
Maybe he's there, and maybe Caleb Downs is there. And
Caleb Downs is being called like the greatest safety prospect
that some of these draft knicks have ever studied. And
I said this to Paul Danner Junior last week. When
you hear smart people talk about Caleb Downs. After breaking
down his tape, you almost almost get aroused, and you
(03:45):
start to think about and salivate over what that dude
can do in a Bengals uniform, if he was available
and if the Bengals took him. But I think the
Ruben Bain conversation is interesting because we just did something
somewhat similar last year. The Bengals leaned into traits. Now
with Shamar Stewart, the traits were off the charts, right.
(04:07):
The measurables, the stuff that you could hold a stopwatch
too or put a measuring tape on. The measurables were
off the charts, And like I do believe we focused
a little bit too much on the relatively low sack total,
not even relatively the low sack total, because he was disruptive.
He frequently beat his blocker. He did impact plays from
(04:29):
a positive perspective at Texas A and M, but he
didn't finish plays. He didn't get to the quarterback and
finish the play and get a sack as often as
you would like for a player who plays his position
that you're gonna use a first round pick on. So
what the Bengals lean into. They leaned into the traits.
So Duke Tobin has said pass rush is king, Like
(04:50):
that's from Duke Tobin. If there's one takeaway from either
of Duke Tobin's two press conferences that he has had
since the end of the season last year, it's a
that he's the guy who traded for Joe Flacco and
b pass rush is king. Duke Tobin telling you that
would suggest they're going to go heavy into upgrading the
(05:10):
pass rush. Now, the first wave is obviously free agency.
Are there starting caliber edges? Are there starting caliber defensive tackles?
Can they use free agency to make the pass rush
better and then combine that with players from last year
like Miles Murphy who feels like an ascending player and
like Shamar Stewart who they're not going to give up on.
Can they take what they have add from outside in
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free agency and make the pass rush significantly better? But
if pass rush is king, it would suggest that statement
would suggest that even if they address pass rush and
free agency, they're not gonna stop there, which means if
a guy like Ruben Bain is there at ten, then
you at least have to consider the possibility that the
Bengals would take them. Where are they going to be
(05:53):
with traits? When and if that is the scenario, because
it was easy to look at last year and say,
what what they should do is care less about the
traits and look more at the production. And I would
agree with that, I think, frankly right now most of
us would. And part of it is a reaction to
just the rookie season that Shamar Stewart had, which you know,
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he got hurt and that was really the big story
to his rookie season. But last year it was ignore
the traits, ignore the traits, focus more on what the
dude puts on tape. If you're doing that with Ruben Bain,
I mean, just go watch, go look the tape. Don't lie.
He is disruptive, he is powerful, He can come at
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you with a variety of different moves like he's everything
you're looking for if you're trying to upgrade your pass
rush via the draft, if you're just looking at it
through the lens of production. If we want the Bengals
to do what many said we want them to do
last year, then we're sort of we're not totally discounting
(06:58):
the arm length, but it's it's not going to be
the major variable that influences the decision to not take
them that dramatically influences the decision to not take them,
or do the Bengals have their way of doing things
and go, you know what, we love the production. The
production is awesome. But yeah, there was abundantly good production.
But you know what, this one measurable and by the way,
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all the other measurables are fine. Like, there's not a
lot else to not like about Ruben Baine if you're
looking at you know, measurables size, Wait, how he runs
all that sort of stuff. I do think this is
interesting and like I think a lot of us want
to do just what comes naturally, and it's it's lean
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into what we've seen. Like again, man, I watched that
National championship game and I was rooting for Indiana, but
I couldn't help stop but thinking about Ruben Bain and like, dude,
who knows if that dude's going to be there? Who
knows if? Who knows who knows how free agency is
gonna unfold? Who knows how? Who knows how the first
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nine picks of the draft are going to unfold. Maybe
a lot of teams are scared off by the arm
length and you go, you know what, this is not
a guy we would take with a third or fourth
overall pick, but with where we are drafting, we will
gladly take him. I don't know, but they measure arm
size and arm length for a reason. So the fact
that they measure for it would tell you that it's
not something that anybody is necessarily going to ignore. It
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will be fascinating to see if he's available. If the
Bengals say, you know what, this year, we're gonna go
more for what we're seeing on tape and we're gonna
let that sort of I don't know outweigh this one
basic measurable metric arm length, or or does a team
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that leans into traits say, you know what, we're leaning
into traits and with this there's this one thing we
don't like and so we're gonna go in another direction.
I don't know how you don't take him if he's there,
unless you want to draft Caleb Downs. And again, very
good question as to whether or not he'll be there,
because many are calling him a top two or three
player in this draft. And then there's the whole question
of positional value how much they should value safety with
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a top ten pick. We're not done talking about Reuben
Bain's arm length, not just today, but over the course
of the next two months. More on that coming up
here in just a bit. The news broke yesterday right
around five o'clock that the University of Cincinnati is suing
Brendan Soresby, who obviously played for UC the last two
(09:32):
years and is now said to be the starting quarterback
at Texas Tech, where he reportedly is going to make
five million dollars. The school is suing their former quarterback
in federal court, saying that he breached his NIL contract
when he refused to pay a one million dollar exit
(09:53):
fee once he transferred to Texas Tech. U SEE is
looking for one million dollars in liquidated damage. School says
Sowresby was contractually obligated to pay within thirty days of
transferring reportedly signed an NIL agreement with Texas Tech that's
going to pay him. I'm reading from the AP story
here between four and six million dollars, The school says.
(10:13):
Quote in his lucrative NIL agreement with Cincinnati Athletics, Brendan
Sowersby committed a play and to stay and play for
two years as a proud Bearcat. Representative also agreed that
if he left the university before that time, he would
pay the university a specific amount for the substantial harm
that his breach would cause. Cincinnati Athletics intends to enforce
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that contractual commitment as stewards of the university's resources, the
athletics department as a duty to do so, and then
they went on to thank Brendan for his time and
wish him success in the future. This is going to
be interesting to me because we've wondered with a lot
(10:55):
of these nil deals and revenue sharing agreements. We've wondered
about the enforcement, if you will, how binding these contracts are.
And this is not U see being petty. It's it's
U see feeling like he an agreement that we went
into was violated and be trying to recoup a million dollars,
which is a really big deal. And like, your guess
(11:17):
is as good as mine as to whether or not
this goes to court. It certainly does add a dimension
to the UC Texas Tech game next season, which was
already going to be interesting because of Brendan Sorosby's presence
on the Red raiders. But like the way I look
at this, and you know who knows. But if we
want these contracts to be valid, if we want them
(11:38):
to be binding, then you know, then you can't You
can't blame a school. Can't blame a player either if
he feels like his contract has been breached. But you
can't blame a school for going Look, we had an agreement,
it got breached. We're owed money, we haven't gotten it yet.
We're going to court. Like that's kind of how it
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works in the real world. If this gets shot down
based on just the basics of what we know, then
what's to stop anybody from breaching I can't say it.
What's to stop anybody from breaching a contract? What's to
stop anybody from just walking away from a deal that
they agreed to? Brendan Soaresby agreed to a deal at
the end of the twenty twenty four season that u
(12:19):
SE says was a two year contract that was they
believe binding through the end of the upcoming regular season.
And so the dude leaves, if he leaves, was supposed
to give UC a million dollars, hasn't done it yet.
I'll know about you, But where I work. If I
break my contract, I subject myself to a lawsuit. It
will be fascinating to see and hear how the courts
(12:42):
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is ESPN fifteen thirty Moeegger. Reds are playing today in Goodyear.
Chase Burns on the hill for Cincinnati. A Uhaneo Souarez,
Ellie Dela Cruz, Matt McClain, Spencer Steer, Noel ve Marte, TJ.
Friedel all in the starting lineup today. Elie Dela Cruz,
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by the way, has just hit a triple, So the
Reds have a guy on third. Bottom of the first inning,
game of scoreless. Chase Burns got through the first inning
without giving up a run. He did surrender one hit.
We had Sal Stewart hitting a home run yesterday. You know,
we could do this about a lot of different guys
on the team. But like, imagine, imagine how the season unfolds.
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If Matt McClain ends up being able to replicate over
the course of an entire season, the production we saw
over the course of roughly ninety games three years ago.
Now that's a big ask, and by the way, that
was a very very small sample size for Matt McClain.
But the Rats have a lot faith in him. Imagine
(15:01):
what it is like if he rewards their faith and
sal Stewart ends up just from a power perspective, having
the sort of season that we all believe he can have.
Like that, like bookend that like put Matt McLain in
the two hole. We'll see if he starts the season
there and uh bat sal Stewart six. By the way,
(15:25):
Matt McLain is hitting second today. He struck out in
the first inning for what it's worth, which is not
much like. Just the key that those two guys individually
and together hold for this season is something that we
will talk about a lot just over the next month.
If you can get the sort of production they were
(15:46):
expecting from Matt McLain a year ago and the sort
of production from Sal Stewart that is an extended version
of what we saw from him late in the season
last year, then that's really where this offense and offense
can go from being you know, kind of middle of
the pack to something that's much much better I was
(16:08):
I was gonna say elite. I'm not gonna go with elite,
but much much, much much better. More on that later
on the college basketball from last night. We had Rick
Bring on the show yesterday talking Xavier and NKU basketball.
Both teams were in action last night. Xavier falls to
Providence in a game that they lose by ten points.
(16:29):
I don't know that the score is really reflective of
how non competitive that game was at times. There was
a stretch midway through the first half where Xavier defensively
was as bad as I've seen them this year defensively,
and that stretch was one of the worst defensive stretches
we've seen, I think from any team, certainly in the region,
(16:52):
at any point this year. Richard Patino after the game
on his team's lack of defensive identity.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, we just have a zero defensive you know, just identity.
We tried three different pick and roll coverages, we tried
two different zones. You know, it's just really hard to
win that way. Made some more shots in the second half. Offensively,
a little bit rattled in the first half, but obviously
(17:23):
shot sixty one percent in the second half, but you
know when you let a team they had two turnovers
for the majority of the game, and you know, a
lot of that's isolation basketball, so sometimes that I can
turn it over, but we just could not get a
stop to save our life.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Third straight loss for the Musketeers. Richard on with Joe
and Byron on fifty five KRC. Three consecutive losses, five
losses in six games, eight out of ten And like
I think most of us have watched Davier this year
and we've arrived at the conclusion that Richard Patino is
the guy because it has felt like he has got
(18:01):
as much out of that roster as you could ask.
There's a huge talent efficiency. Now it also sort of
feels like they're they're on the they're on the cusp
of limping to the finish line here and there. They're
home for Georgetown, who they beat in the game where
Ed Cooley threw a water bottle at the end of
it in late December. That feels like forever ago. They
(18:23):
have Seaton Hall here. They're gonna be underdogs in that game,
I believe, and they have to go to Villanova. They
will be underdogs in that game. They're five and twelve
in league play like it, it's gonna feel unfulfilling if
limping to the finish line includes three consecutive losses and
(18:45):
you end the regular season with eighteen ls. In the
grand scheme of things, that may not matter because ultimately
what they need is better players. And I think it's
gonna be really interesting when you know we're getting set
for the season next year, to see how much better
the Xavier talent is at the beginning of next season
compared to what we've watched so far for twenty eight games.
And they got back in the game offensively in the
(19:06):
second half. They were at Xavier at their best this
year has been fun to watch. Offensively, they've run, they've
converted at a pretty good rate near the rim, better
than certainly back in November, and they did some of
that last night, But frankly, it just it felt like
at that point garbage time came really early last night.
In Providence, NKU wins last night go to Cleveland State
(19:26):
beat the Vikings eighty one to seventy. Donovan Oday with
a perfect night twenty two points on eight of eight
shooting from the field, two of two from behind the ark,
and four for four from the free throw line. LJ.
Wells with his fifth double double twenty four and twelve
for the Norse last night, who improved to ten and
nine in Horizon League play, and we discussed the tournament
(19:48):
format with Rick Browing yesterday. You can hear that conversation
on the iHeartRadio app. Speaking of which, we had Paul
Danner Junior on the show yesterday from the combine on
like the aftermath of what Duke Tobin had to say
in Zach Taylor's comments and talking with Al Golden and
Paul as always was terrific. If you did not hear
(20:10):
that chat, you should go listen to it now or
later on. And we also had on I know a
segment on this show is good when at the end
of it, I get multiple texts, including from people that
I don't usually hear from, who go out of their
way to tell me how much they liked a certain guest.
(20:31):
So we had on Lindsay Roads yesterday. Lindsey for years
was on the NFL Network, hosted NFL All Access and
now she's with Sumer Sports, and we had like a
real kind of wonky we'll go with wonky analytical but
fun conversation about the combine and what we should be
(20:53):
paying attention to this week. We ended the interview by
talking about hotel room beds, which hoole unimportant. But the
other stuff, like the first thirteen fourteen minutes of it
was terrific. So if you missed that, take it from
the people who texted me yesterday. Go listen to it.
It's available on the iHeartRadio app, or you can go
to my page at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. Podcasts
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FC Cincinnati. Last night, they clobbered O and MFC and
the CONCACAF Champions Cup nine nothing to score. We got
a glimpse into some of FC Cincinnati's youth last night.
Now they turned back to Major League Soccer play and
hit the road to take on Minnesota on Saturday, which
(22:00):
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Blue next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's
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FC Cincinnati last night in the Cockacab Champions Cup scored
nine goals over a O and MFC. They've outscored them
thirteen nothing in the two matches they've played, so they'll Meanwhile,
they got up to a good start in MLS regular
season play. The opener last Saturday, a two nothing victory
over Atlanta. Now the Orange and Blue will hit the
(23:09):
road for a Saturday afternoon match against Minnesota. You can
watch the match on Apple TV, where you will see
in studio the coverage by somebody that we've had on
the show a number of times over the last couple
of years, Dax McCarty. Who is with us right now, Dax,
It's awesome to have you. Good afternoon. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Great?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Guys? How are we doing? That was quite the offensive
outburst last night, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Huh yeah, you know, Wei, yeah, yeah, really, we got
a glimpse into FC Cincinnati's youth, which was really cool.
How many times in your career, pro or amateur were
you a part of a match where a team scored
nine goals and were you ever on the receiving end
of it?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Absolutely not, ever on the receiving end of something like that.
I think if you're an MLS team and you're on
the receiving end of a nine to zero result or
four line, and I think it's time to hang them up.
But I was on you know, I was on the
right side of a seven zero victory in a very
big Darby game. New York Red Bulls NYCFC. I don't
(24:12):
need to bring it up. If any NYC fans get
a hold of this audio, they're gonna hate me even
more than they already do. But nine goals in a game,
I mean, doesn't matter who the opponent is. That's definitely
something to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I had I had two thoughts. One was this
is awesome, this is fun, and the other wise you
might need some of those on Saturday. What do we
learn about FC Cincinnati in the match against Atlanta? Well,
I think you.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Learned that they have a little bit of depth to
be able to handle what, hopefully, I believe Pat Newton confirmed,
is not a serious injury to Evander. I think FC
Cincinnati fans have known for a couple of years now.
What a fantastic I guess you'd call him a reserve,
But what a fantastic compliment to a Vander that Dotto
Valezuela is. He came in, he didn't miss a beat,
(24:58):
he kept things ticking. He doesn't have, at this moment
in time, the same. I guess you could call it
final third killer instinct that Evander has. But Valezuela is
a soccer player. He is a great, great soccer player.
He's got a really bright future and I want to
see him with more opportunities to be on the field
(25:20):
more and I hope it doesn't have to come at
the expense of an injury to Evander. But I think
Cincinnati fans will will find out a lot more about
their team in the next couple of weeks in Pat
Noonan how he has evolved things tactically to try to
make up for not only losing your one of your
best players, one of the best players in the league,
but also how you can continue to evolve from being
(25:42):
just a very good regular season team to then carrying
that over into the playoffs. And so it was a
professional performance against Atlanta United. I was able to watch
back most of that game, and it was comfortable. They
looked comfortable. They missed a couple of golden opportunities, but
you got big moments in the match. Cincinnati got the
(26:03):
big moments in the match, especially in the second half.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right, I was thinking the worst, as most of his
sports fans do, when a Vander went down the other night.
It feels like they've dodged something really serious, which is good,
I do think, though it provides an interesting test because
and I think you could say this about FC Cincinnati
going back to when Lucho Acosta was here, it felt
like there were times where they leaned on him a
(26:26):
little bit too much. And then I would say the
same about Avander last year, and he was up to
the task and they had a good season. But I
do think like that's been one of the storylines this year,
like can you find offense without him on the field,
And while you want him and you are breathing a
huge sigh relief that it feels like this is not
going to be something all that serious. I do think
it provides them a chance to pass an early season test,
(26:50):
just to see if they can generate more offense without him.
What do you say to that.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's a wonderful point. And I put a Vander in
the same category as I would an Anders Dryer, a
Lionel Messi, Denny Bowonga, a Sun Hung Men, a superstar
who can win a game for you at the drop
of a hat. That is what Evander is and that
is why he is one of the best players in
Major League soccer. And that's why Pat Noonan is gonna
(27:15):
say ten times out of ten, well, I I want
him on the field, and I want him healthy, but
you also want a plan B in a Plan CE,
and sometimes whether that's through manufactured rest or whether that's
through a small injury, you are able to find out
more about your team when some of these players aren't
on the field. I would love to see Pat Noonan
be able to incorporate Valenzuela into the lineup even when
(27:39):
Evander is healthy, because there are times where FC Cincinnati
I think they're going to dominate the game based on
the quality of players that they have. I would love
to see them put more attacking players on the field
that are able to find different solutions. And I thought
Pat Noonan got the balance right against Atlanti and Nighted.
It was a surprise to me to see Jabbari up
(27:59):
top from the start. I mean, look, maybe I don't
I didn't follow them too closely in preseason. Maybe that
wasn't a surprise to Cincinnati fans, but he impressed me.
He's a big body. He provides you a different profile
to say a Brenner. He's more of a Robin to
Evander and Kevin Denk. If they're Batman right, you have
you need another guy on the field. Who's willing to
(28:21):
do the dirty work, who's willing to have hold up play,
who's willing to make unselfish plays and unselfish runs to
open up space for your superstars. And so I was
impressed with Jabbari's performance. I was impressed with Brian Ramirez.
Pat Noonan went out of his way to praise him
after the game. And by the way, what is it
with FC Cincinnati being able to find these absolutely fantastastic
(28:42):
left foot wing backs.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't what what is where is.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Chris Albright shopping? Because first it was alvar Obarial and
then you lost him, you replaced him with Origiano, who
looked like a match winner, and then you get rid
of Origiano and now you have Ramirez, who looks like
a fantastic addition and a great piece to the puzzle.
So I've just been really impressed continually with Chris Albright
and his ability to go and replace important players and
(29:06):
make sure that Pat Noonan is constantly able to refresh
this roster.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It's going to be a Saturday afternoon match on Saturday afternoon,
because that's when Saturday Afternoon matches take place. Four point
thirty Apple TV, DAX McCarty part of MLS three sixty
Austoin to have you as always, man. Enjoy the matches
this weekend, We'll do it against you and thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
My pleasure. Anytime you need me, I'm always available.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Good luck you guys, most definitely love having you on.
Thanks so much, Dax McCarty. Apple TV FC Cincinnati afternoon
match against Minnesota Minnesota Minnesota United TIEDE. We have a
new new manager or head coach, Cameron Knowles. They had
to draw in their first match against Austin twoall FC
Cincinnati coming off that victory over Atlanta and a huge
(29:53):
sigh of relief being breathed at the vander injury which
I was watching that unfold on social media and you
could understand why I've see Cincinnati fans were apprehensive. It
feels like they have dodged a major bullet in relation
to his injury. Seventeen away from four o'clock, Chad Brendle
on the Bearcats and Soresby versus U See.
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Twelve away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty
l Oeger. Thank you for listening. Thursdays we talk you
see sports with our guy Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal dot
com man who hosted this show on Monday and Tuesday
of this week. And there's a lot to discuss, hi chat.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I know, I think I'm hosting the show Thursday and
Friday also of next week, and then I.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Believe the following Monday, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And Monday. Yeah? Is that your spring training trip?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's the annual spring training track? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
you and you and Jimmy have a good time counting
down the counting down the minutes. Not gonna lie to
you counting down the minutes to uh my first Arizona beer.
No question, Uh is UC versus Brendan Soresby ever actually
gonna make it to a courtroom.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I mean, I have no cluemo. This thing seems so
cut and dry, but it's all built on such a
house of cards that I mean, I guess there's a
way for them to prove through Ohio law that it
wasn't a binding contract. But I mean, if these things
(32:14):
aren't by like, what are we doing well? If you
can't sign a guy to a two year contract and
then hold them to the buyout in that contract, like
this thing, it's not sustained. I mean, it already doesn't
feel sustainable if this wins in court. Like, I don't know, man,
(32:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Do you think do you think that Joe Royer should
sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing him the football?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Maybe? Yeah, breach a contract?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
They were roommates, so maybe there's like, you know, something
in there that they could he could go after. I mean,
I don't know, there's got to be a way that
I just don't I don't understand it. You you did,
you see get value out of having Brendan Soresby back
for this year from January to October. Absolutely, can they
(33:17):
sue him back for November?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Here's what I want to know. So you see plays
Texas Tech on October the twenty fourth, it's it's Cincinnati's homecoming.
They have the reigning Big Twelve champs in for homecoming.
Have we ever had a college football game where there's
been active litigation between one of the schools in the
game and one of the players on the other team.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You think might like, would there be a like if
he doesn't pay, would there be like a warrant out
for his arrests? Would the fuzz be with those would
those like you know, the guys that lee and those
guys that they pay for security down on the field,
would they be able to like go arrest Brendan Soresby
and warm ups?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Wouldn't that be a scene that would be fun? Yes,
that would be That would be yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That would being the Bearcat get arrested right about a
closing teams quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So that's that's one of the things I might really
like about this era of college sports that we're in
is we're going to have schools suing players and then
those players having to play against the school, the school
that suit them, and it just it it ratchet is
it ratchets things up a little bit? And I'm here
for it.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah. I I don't know, man, Like you made a
lot of money at you see, Brendan, you made a
lot of money going to Texas Tech. Like to me,
you know what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
No one these crooked ass agents in college are taking
twenty percent off the top of these contracts.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean, is this guy acting the way he is
his agent because it's gonna cost him two hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right? Yeah, h fair question. Chad brenda Is at Journal
dot com. Hey, I get it. I am amused by
the fact that you have a school suing a player
who may play against him in October, Like, well, you
won't play against him in October barring injury, and we'll
see if there's still active litigation. But no, man, I'm
(35:27):
your basic premise. I agree with if if you can't
enforce this contract, then legitimately, what are we doing? And
we ask that somewhat rhetorically, but in an era where
you know, the entire foundation of college sports seems to
have never been flimsier than it is right now. Contracts
may be the last thing holding it up. And so
if we decide that they're null and void and can't
be enforced, then then what's the point of any of us.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean, here's the question, bro. If Brendan Sorsby plays
two games last year and suffers an injury that you know,
God forbid severely limits the rest of his playing career,
could Cincinnati have backed out of that two year contract
and said we're not paying twenty twenty six Because I'm
guessing if that was the case, Brendon Soorsby's lawyers would
(36:14):
be knocking on Cincinnati's door saying, we want our money.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, let's switch gears. Can the Bearcats win the remaining
three regular season basketball games?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Can they? Sure? I mean, I was busy working the
other night and I got done working and I looked
up and UCF was up seventy five to thirty on
BYU seventy five to thirty. Now, in the next sixteen minutes,
(36:57):
I think BYU scored something like fifty six points in
the next sixteen minutes. So beating them is not going
to be easy. But I mean, Oklahoma State is struggling
right now, their best, second best player gets hurt in
the final five seconds of overtime in that West Virginia game.
(37:19):
You should have an advantage there. BYU, you know a
lot of it. I think a lot of BYU. Devans
is gonna get his he's incredible. Can you shut down
Rob Right? If you can shut down Rob Right and
they don't have Richie Saunders Sanders like you got a
chance against BYU. I mean the toughest one might be TCU.
(37:42):
At home, they're on the bubble, they're gonna be playing
for their tournament life. Jamie Dixon's teams over the past
couple of years have historically been significantly better at home
than they are on the road. That one's gonna be
I mean b YU and tc You're both gonna be
(38:03):
really difficult. But I mean that TCU one boy, and
that would be kind of the epitome of what we've
gone through the last five years. Right, they win these two,
now everybody's got them in the next four out, the
first four out. Can they get this last win and
then pop goes the bubble?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Do you subscribe to the belief that they have a
chance if they win the next three, and then two
in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
What I subscribe to, what you should subscribe to is
Bearcat Journal dot com. What I don't subscribe to MO
is that conference tournaments matter at all anymore. Yeah, I
just don't think the election committee good.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I was gonna say. I think if there's been one
takeaway about this entire process that I've had for the
last decade, it's exactly what you just said.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
They don't matter at all. They don't care. Like especially
the last probably five years, there's been multiple cases of
if this team wins one or two in the conference tournament,
they're playing their way in, and then that team's on
like the next four out like they weren't even close.
So there's a million bits of evidence here showing us.
(39:18):
I mean, maybe it's like, you know, you beat Arizona
and Houston on your way to the Big twelve title game,
but those odds are not great. So if you're gonna
get it done, you gotta win these next three. Let
the chips fall where they may. I think they probably
(39:40):
have dug themselves a hall that's too deep. I do
think there was if they had won at Texas Tech.
I thought there was a path, yes, because that would
have been another top fifteen type road win that really
would have enhanced your resume. You know, beating BYU at
home is gonna help. But I don't think anybody's gonna
(40:01):
look at that and go, damn, that's that's a team
that we've got to put in. So I don't think
the tournament, the Big Twelve Tournament, helps any Maybe you
get right there to the cut line, if you go
three and oh to end the regular season, I just
don't think there's enough meat on the bone that's gonna
(40:22):
get them over that hurdle.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right now, you and I talked last Thursday. The Bearcats
were in the middle of a three game winning streak
that had it felt like change the conversation about Wes
Miller's future. What did saturdays blowout win at Kansas do
for that conversation.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I mean it solidified some of the belief that there's
a chance he can play his way back into consideration
and rightfully so, like you know, you go to Kansas
to be Kansas by sixteen, fully healthy Kansas. Since Darreon
Peterson plays the entire game, you know, nothing fluky happened
(41:05):
in that game that that was just Cincinnati played better
than Kansas, you know, it certainly helps. I still think
it's going to be a really hard sell to the
fan base if they don't make the NCAA tournament. But
there are people that you know, they donate more to
(41:27):
U see than I'll make in a decade. Those people
have a lot of weight, and I think that there's
a portion of that group that really likes Wes Miller
and wants to see him succeed in this job. And
if they're ten and eight, you know, if they went
out and they still miss the tournament, but they're ten
(41:47):
and eight in the Big twelve, and you know, they
they prove kind of in Big twelve play that they
were legitimate. I there's there's you know, there's a decent
chance you see him back for year six.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Good stuff as always, man, I will uh, I'll talk
to you in two weeks. Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Enjoy Arizona, though
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I most definitely will next Wednesday, four o'clock ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station
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