February 27, 2026 • 16 mins
Benjamin Robinson sorts through all the good mock drafts so you don't have to. His website is Grinding the Mocks, and it will be a great resource in the weeks leading up to the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In ten minutes. I won't make you eight that long.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty onm Oeggers. So it's now
draft season. The Combine starts draft season, and obviously you
know free agency here we hope is gonna be a
big deal. I'd be stunned if it's not. But we're
starting to form opinions about prospects and we've done the
(00:20):
whole arm length thing and folks are starting to pour
through mock drafts. I'm excited to do this. So Grinding
themocks dot com is a website and I'll put this
and I think the most simple way possible, and its
founder is going to join us here and he can
correct me. But what I like about Grinding the Mocks
is they kind of look at all the mock drafts
so I don't have to because I'm lazy, and there
(00:43):
are so many of them. And so what they do
is they kind of help set, for lack of a
better way of putting it, expectations for how the draft
is going to unfold based on a lot of things.
But all the good reputable mock drafts are are part
of their data collection and kind of what they use
to help set those expectations. I'm now just like throwing
out their word salad. So let's bring on Benjamin Robinson,
(01:05):
who's a Cincinnati guy and is with he runs grinding
themox dot com kind enough to join us here at
the end of the week. It's awesome, have you Benjamin?
How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm doing great, mo, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Appreciate you doing this. Did I kind of nail it?
Or did I screw up? And talking about grinding the
box and what it does?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He did pretty good overall. You know, what I'm doing
with grounding the MOX is trying to make draft fans
smarter and more evidence based in their assessmance of players.
You know, it comes from uh, you know, me listening
to you know, draft broadcasts and saying, what the hell
does mel Kiper even now does he does he ever
want a draft strap and saying it's it of you know,
(01:46):
asking what is Todd McShane though, has he ever wanted
to a draft strap? Collecting data from a lot of
different sources and using the wisdom of crowds to come
up with what I call expected draft position, which gives
us a better insight into where we seek players actually
go in the draft.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
How much does expect a draft position change from this
time of year to two months from now.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's going to change a lot. Right now, as you
said before, you know, we're we're still living in a
pre free agency world, and so that's going to change
some things. We're just now getting this combined data which
is also going to shake up things a little bit.
But also as to get closer to the draft, that's
that's when the best quality mock drafts come out. So
in my data right now, we're ranking mock drafts, you know,
(02:31):
not super highly. We're about you know, two months from
the draft right now, so you know, when we get
to the draft, we're going to be waiting those mock
drafts a lot higher. And also making sure that we
were looking at who makes those mock drafts and giving
credit to the Dane Bruglers of the world and not
to the Benjamin Robinson's of the world. Like when I
do my mock draft, I assess my mock draft in
the same way that I assess Danes and make sure
(02:53):
that I rate his mock draft appropriately and then push
down my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Are there some theme as they relate specifically to the
Bengals that are starting to emerge that we acknowledge still
may change based on a lot of different things over
the next seven eight nine weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Definitely, so on grinding tomock dot Com and my team
chart section, I have charts and what I call weighted
mock draft shares. So that's taking that same concept that
not all mock drafts are created equal and taking those
weights so that we're up, you know, weighing up mock
drafts that were made closer to the draft and weighing
up mock drafts that are made by experts, and eighty
(03:33):
five percent of the mock drafts that have been published
so far for the Round one for the Bengals have
them targeting some type of defensive player, whether that's you know,
safety Caleb Downs from Ohio State who's number number one,
you know, the defensive tackle Peter Woods from Clemson, or
you know your flavor of edge rusher like Auburn's Keldric Fock,
(03:55):
Texas texts David Bailey, or Miami's Caleb Downs. So you know, defense,
as everyone in town knows, has been a theme the
last two years and continues to be a team. The
beatings will continue and Phil Morale improves.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You mentioned Caleb Towns, right, and there's a great argument
about positional value versus you know, I mean some have
him as a top three player in the draft, which
if he plays another position, he's gone well before the
Bengals are on the clock. But he does play safety,
it's not regarded as quote a premium position. How often
have you seen him going so early that as the
(04:32):
Bengals are getting closer to being on the podium with
the tenth pick, it's not even something they even have
a chance to think about.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So right now, in my data, he's the seventh overall
ranked player, and so obviously we know the Bengals are
picking at ten. So there's some upward pressure on his
rankings and my data, and that comes from some other
teams that are probably going to be really interested in
his services, you know, in terms of the top teams
that calm sorry that Caleb downs is mock to Bengals
(05:00):
are number one, But like I said, it doesn't matter
if they're ranked number one if a team selects him
before them. And so you know you're seeing teams like
the Commanders and the Giants where there's a lot of
interest in him. And obviously you know when they picked
before the Bengals, and so there's a decent chance right now,
in my day, I'd say it's about a two thirds
chance that he's uh, that he's even that he's gone
by that time. So you can wish. It doesn't mean
(05:24):
it's going to happen, And so that's why you want
to be showing people the data to say, hey, you know,
when we're there on the clock, they may not even
have that choice. Here are some other options about players
that can really help the Bengals next year on defense,
or maybe they'd go Google offense. You know, I think
they still could use another offensive lineman to round out
that group.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Check out grinding themox dot com. Benjamin Robinson is is
with this. Has there been a wild change based on
knowing specifically for Reuben Bain, knowing specifically how long his
arms are?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So right now, my site still shows data for before
the combine, and I do that on purpose. I think
it's really important to have that sort of set expectation
of what we thought about a player before the combine
and then what we thought about after the combine. So
I won't update the site with new data for about
a week or so. But in my current pre combine data,
(06:18):
he has about an average expected draft position of five
and a half, which pushed him as my third ranked player. So,
needless to say, people who watch the tape know that
he has these physical limitations. People have talked about this
for a while. There were some rumblings that some teams
didn't even view him but as a pure as rusher,
(06:39):
despite that's where he played and had a ton of
success at Miami. So there was even some rumblings that
some teams thought of him more as a guy who
was play inside, who you know, wouldn't have to, who
could kind of go into with his power and really
make an impact on the interior. I think he's probably
gonna be doing a little bit of both, and so
(07:00):
the moment that people start viewing at him as a
sort of more of like a hybrid player and less
of a pure edge rusher, you might be able to
see what teams might be wanting to do with Reuben Bain.
But he is so powerful, so he's less of like
a overall speed rusher and more of a power rusher,
which when you look at ed rushers in the NFL
on how a lot of them win. The good ones
(07:20):
really actually do win a lot more with power than
just with speed. And I think David Bailey, the ed
rusher from Texas Tech, who is franked fourth overall on
my data now Bengals Frandsoul probably also love to have.
He's more of that traditional kind of win with speed
rather than that kind of power rusher that you see
in Bain.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're obviously very early in the process, but from a
Bengals perspective, specifically, what are we learning about some of
the expectations for them Day two and three?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, Day two and three is a little bit of
a different story. When we start looking into the day
the second round picks for the Bengals, you still see
ed rusher as a team. So you know, when I
look at, you know, the top dresser that Bengals are
being mocked in the second round, because you know, I
collect thousands of mock drafts, and some of those mock
drafts go much further than just first rounds. You see
(08:11):
somebody show up like Illinois ed rusher Gabe Jackass. So
he had a really great Senior Bowl. If the Bengals
decided to go, you know, let's say they wanted to
go linebacker or safety or offensive lineman like I said,
or maybe even cornerback, which is a position that they've
been mocked pretty frequently as well. They could go as
(08:32):
rusher of the second round with a guy like Gabe Jackets,
and if they decide, you know, and this is what
these decisions are like. The questions you have to decide is,
you know, when we go for a player in the
first round at one position, what does that position look
like in the next round. And you see the Bengals
do this kind of stuff all the time. Teams have
to deal with this all the time. And you know,
I go back to that Jamar Chase pine Seul decision,
(08:54):
and so teams are going to look at, okay, we're
interested in this position. Well, when we're picking again in
the next round, what does that position look like? So
you know, if they decided to go edge rusher in
the in the second round with a Gabe Jackis, then
in the first round they could do something different. And
so similarly, you see a player like USC safety Kamari
Ramsey show up as a guy who could be of
(09:15):
interest to the Bengals if they decided to go safety
in the second round, given their need at safety. So
those are a couple of names when I see, you know, edge,
rusher and safety show up so much in first round
mocks that if they're going a different direction, Bengals fans
might want to start getting used to some of those
names as alternatives.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Since you've been doing this, where has been the the
widest difference between where a player was expected to be
drafted and ultimately where he was selected.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh strae Door Sanders. I knew though, yeah last year. Yeah,
so last year, you know, I my data, my public data,
you know, was in line with what a lot of
people were saying about Shador, which was, you know that
they thought that he would be going into Pittsburgh and
with their pick and the you know the thing, it
was like twenty third or something in the first round,
(10:05):
and he didn't go there. And yeah, he fell and
he fell and he fell and he fell, and even
the most advanced models, you know. So I was just
in Indianapolis with the Combine and I was talking to
you know, a team and I asked him, you know,
I was talking about my data and my insights and
where they had Shador and they said, you know, there
was only so many times we could tell our you know,
the general manager that the probability was zero that he
(10:26):
was supposed to be here. So you know, he was
the biggest foller in recent memory. Before that, it was
Malik Willis the year that there was only one quarterback
drafted in the first round with the Steelers, you know,
taking Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis. Who's now? You know,
the bell of the ball of free agent quarterbacks shows that,
you know, the life in the NFL is long. But yeah,
Chador was. It was really unexpected. You know, even my
(10:48):
more advanced numbers had him in the like late first,
early second round, so I was surprised. I was surprised
that he was. He was still over there in the
fifth round. At a certain point, I thought maybe the
best might want to take a gander on that, but
it seemed like it probably would have been more trouble
than it was worth, giving the same sort of rumors
about him in Baltimore that Baltimore was interested in inflecting him,
(11:11):
and he told them that he wouldn't like that because
he wanted to be in a place where he could play.
And you know, he made a Pro Bowl. So you
know what else we have to say that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah he did. He did a Pro Bowl. Yes, so
did Joe Flacco this year. So do what you want
with that. And here's my request. The week of the draft,
can I bring you back so we can kind of
see where things are at that point relative to where
they are right now and maybe set some expectations for
draft weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Definitely. Yeah, and the data will be a lot more
rich and interesting and yeah, the storylines evolve, and that's
one of the reasons why I love doing this. It's
all about the stories and the journeys of these prospects
as they go from college to pro and the data
does a really good job of telling that story.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's Ben Johnson, the website grinding themox dot com on
Twitter at grinding Mocks. Awesome conversation. Man, We'll do it
again as we get closer to the draft. I really
do create at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, no problem, Thank you, mom.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You got it. I appreciate it. Cincinnati native Bengals fan
Ben Johnson, grinding the moockx dot com. I became familiar
with his website reading a piece in The Ringer last
year right after the Shador Sanders thing went down the
way it did, and they used him to sort of illustrate, like,
here's where everybody thought that guy was gonna go, and
look at the difference between where he was expected to
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In ten minutes. I won't make you eight that long.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty onm Oeggers. So it's now
draft season. The Combine starts draft season, and obviously you
know free agency here we hope is gonna be a
big deal. I'd be stunned if it's not. But we're
starting to form opinions about prospects and we've done the
(00:20):
whole arm length thing and folks are starting to pour
through mock drafts. I'm excited to do this. So Grinding
themocks dot com is a website and I'll put this
and I think the most simple way possible, and its
founder is going to join us here and he can
correct me. But what I like about Grinding the Mocks
is they kind of look at all the mock drafts
so I don't have to because I'm lazy, and there
(00:43):
are so many of them. And so what they do
is they kind of help set, for lack of a
better way of putting it, expectations for how the draft
is going to unfold based on a lot of things.
But all the good reputable mock drafts are are part
of their data collection and kind of what they use
to help set those expectations. I'm now just like throwing
out their word salad. So let's bring on Benjamin Robinson,
(01:05):
who's a Cincinnati guy and is with he runs grinding
themox dot com kind enough to join us here at
the end of the week. It's awesome, have you Benjamin?
How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm doing great, mo, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Appreciate you doing this. Did I kind of nail it?
Or did I screw up? And talking about grinding the
box and what it does?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He did pretty good overall. You know, what I'm doing
with grounding the MOX is trying to make draft fans
smarter and more evidence based in their assessmance of players.
You know, it comes from uh, you know, me listening
to you know, draft broadcasts and saying, what the hell
does mel Kiper even now does he does he ever
want a draft strap and saying it's it of you know,
(01:46):
asking what is Todd McShane though, has he ever wanted
to a draft strap? Collecting data from a lot of
different sources and using the wisdom of crowds to come
up with what I call expected draft position, which gives
us a better insight into where we seek players actually
go in the draft.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
How much does expect a draft position change from this
time of year to two months from now.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's going to change a lot. Right now, as you
said before, you know, we're we're still living in a
pre free agency world, and so that's going to change
some things. We're just now getting this combined data which
is also going to shake up things a little bit.
But also as to get closer to the draft, that's
that's when the best quality mock drafts come out. So
in my data right now, we're ranking mock drafts, you know,
(02:31):
not super highly. We're about you know, two months from
the draft right now, so you know, when we get
to the draft, we're going to be waiting those mock
drafts a lot higher. And also making sure that we
were looking at who makes those mock drafts and giving
credit to the Dane Bruglers of the world and not
to the Benjamin Robinson's of the world. Like when I
do my mock draft, I assess my mock draft in
the same way that I assess Danes and make sure
(02:53):
that I rate his mock draft appropriately and then push
down my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Are there some theme as they relate specifically to the
Bengals that are starting to emerge that we acknowledge still
may change based on a lot of different things over
the next seven eight nine weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Definitely, so on grinding tomock dot Com and my team
chart section, I have charts and what I call weighted
mock draft shares. So that's taking that same concept that
not all mock drafts are created equal and taking those
weights so that we're up, you know, weighing up mock
drafts that were made closer to the draft and weighing
up mock drafts that are made by experts, and eighty
(03:33):
five percent of the mock drafts that have been published
so far for the Round one for the Bengals have
them targeting some type of defensive player, whether that's you know,
safety Caleb Downs from Ohio State who's number number one,
you know, the defensive tackle Peter Woods from Clemson, or
you know your flavor of edge rusher like Auburn's Keldric Fock,
(03:55):
Texas texts David Bailey, or Miami's Caleb Downs. So you know, defense,
as everyone in town knows, has been a theme the
last two years and continues to be a team. The
beatings will continue and Phil Morale improves.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You mentioned Caleb Towns, right, and there's a great argument
about positional value versus you know, I mean some have
him as a top three player in the draft, which
if he plays another position, he's gone well before the
Bengals are on the clock. But he does play safety,
it's not regarded as quote a premium position. How often
have you seen him going so early that as the
(04:32):
Bengals are getting closer to being on the podium with
the tenth pick, it's not even something they even have
a chance to think about.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So right now, in my data, he's the seventh overall
ranked player, and so obviously we know the Bengals are
picking at ten. So there's some upward pressure on his
rankings and my data, and that comes from some other
teams that are probably going to be really interested in
his services, you know, in terms of the top teams
that calm sorry that Caleb downs is mock to Bengals
(05:00):
are number one, But like I said, it doesn't matter
if they're ranked number one if a team selects him
before them. And so you know you're seeing teams like
the Commanders and the Giants where there's a lot of
interest in him. And obviously you know when they picked
before the Bengals, and so there's a decent chance right now,
in my day, I'd say it's about a two thirds
chance that he's uh, that he's even that he's gone
by that time. So you can wish. It doesn't mean
(05:24):
it's going to happen, And so that's why you want
to be showing people the data to say, hey, you know,
when we're there on the clock, they may not even
have that choice. Here are some other options about players
that can really help the Bengals next year on defense,
or maybe they'd go Google offense. You know, I think
they still could use another offensive lineman to round out
that group.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Check out grinding themox dot com. Benjamin Robinson is is
with this. Has there been a wild change based on
knowing specifically for Reuben Bain, knowing specifically how long his
arms are?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So right now, my site still shows data for before
the combine, and I do that on purpose. I think
it's really important to have that sort of set expectation
of what we thought about a player before the combine
and then what we thought about after the combine. So
I won't update the site with new data for about
a week or so. But in my current pre combine data,
(06:18):
he has about an average expected draft position of five
and a half, which pushed him as my third ranked player. So,
needless to say, people who watch the tape know that
he has these physical limitations. People have talked about this
for a while. There were some rumblings that some teams
didn't even view him but as a pure as rusher,
(06:39):
despite that's where he played and had a ton of
success at Miami. So there was even some rumblings that
some teams thought of him more as a guy who
was play inside, who you know, wouldn't have to, who
could kind of go into with his power and really
make an impact on the interior. I think he's probably
gonna be doing a little bit of both, and so
(07:00):
the moment that people start viewing at him as a
sort of more of like a hybrid player and less
of a pure edge rusher, you might be able to
see what teams might be wanting to do with Reuben Bain.
But he is so powerful, so he's less of like
a overall speed rusher and more of a power rusher,
which when you look at ed rushers in the NFL
on how a lot of them win. The good ones
(07:20):
really actually do win a lot more with power than
just with speed. And I think David Bailey, the ed
rusher from Texas Tech, who is franked fourth overall on
my data now Bengals Frandsoul probably also love to have.
He's more of that traditional kind of win with speed
rather than that kind of power rusher that you see
in Bain.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're obviously very early in the process, but from a
Bengals perspective, specifically, what are we learning about some of
the expectations for them Day two and three?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, Day two and three is a little bit of
a different story. When we start looking into the day
the second round picks for the Bengals, you still see
ed rusher as a team. So you know, when I
look at, you know, the top dresser that Bengals are
being mocked in the second round, because you know, I
collect thousands of mock drafts, and some of those mock
drafts go much further than just first rounds. You see
(08:11):
somebody show up like Illinois ed rusher Gabe Jackass. So
he had a really great Senior Bowl. If the Bengals
decided to go, you know, let's say they wanted to
go linebacker or safety or offensive lineman like I said,
or maybe even cornerback, which is a position that they've
been mocked pretty frequently as well. They could go as
(08:32):
rusher of the second round with a guy like Gabe Jackets,
and if they decide, you know, and this is what
these decisions are like. The questions you have to decide is,
you know, when we go for a player in the
first round at one position, what does that position look
like in the next round. And you see the Bengals
do this kind of stuff all the time. Teams have
to deal with this all the time. And you know,
I go back to that Jamar Chase pine Seul decision,
(08:54):
and so teams are going to look at, okay, we're
interested in this position. Well, when we're picking again in
the next round, what does that position look like? So
you know, if they decided to go edge rusher in
the in the second round with a Gabe Jackis, then
in the first round they could do something different. And
so similarly, you see a player like USC safety Kamari
Ramsey show up as a guy who could be of
(09:15):
interest to the Bengals if they decided to go safety
in the second round, given their need at safety. So
those are a couple of names when I see, you know, edge,
rusher and safety show up so much in first round
mocks that if they're going a different direction, Bengals fans
might want to start getting used to some of those
names as alternatives.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Since you've been doing this, where has been the the
widest difference between where a player was expected to be
drafted and ultimately where he was selected.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh strae Door Sanders. I knew though, yeah last year. Yeah,
so last year, you know, I my data, my public data,
you know, was in line with what a lot of
people were saying about Shador, which was, you know that
they thought that he would be going into Pittsburgh and
with their pick and the you know the thing, it
was like twenty third or something in the first round,
(10:05):
and he didn't go there. And yeah, he fell and
he fell and he fell and he fell, and even
the most advanced models, you know. So I was just
in Indianapolis with the Combine and I was talking to
you know, a team and I asked him, you know,
I was talking about my data and my insights and
where they had Shador and they said, you know, there
was only so many times we could tell our you know,
the general manager that the probability was zero that he
(10:26):
was supposed to be here. So you know, he was
the biggest foller in recent memory. Before that, it was
Malik Willis the year that there was only one quarterback
drafted in the first round with the Steelers, you know,
taking Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis. Who's now? You know,
the bell of the ball of free agent quarterbacks shows that,
you know, the life in the NFL is long. But yeah,
Chador was. It was really unexpected. You know, even my
(10:48):
more advanced numbers had him in the like late first,
early second round, so I was surprised. I was surprised
that he was. He was still over there in the
fifth round. At a certain point, I thought maybe the
best might want to take a gander on that, but
it seemed like it probably would have been more trouble
than it was worth, giving the same sort of rumors
about him in Baltimore that Baltimore was interested in inflecting him,
(11:11):
and he told them that he wouldn't like that because
he wanted to be in a place where he could play.
And you know, he made a Pro Bowl. So you
know what else we have to say that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah he did. He did a Pro Bowl. Yes, so
did Joe Flacco this year. So do what you want
with that. And here's my request. The week of the draft,
can I bring you back so we can kind of
see where things are at that point relative to where
they are right now and maybe set some expectations for
draft weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Definitely. Yeah, and the data will be a lot more
rich and interesting and yeah, the storylines evolve, and that's
one of the reasons why I love doing this. It's
all about the stories and the journeys of these prospects
as they go from college to pro and the data
does a really good job of telling that story.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's Ben Johnson, the website grinding themox dot com on
Twitter at grinding Mocks. Awesome conversation. Man, We'll do it
again as we get closer to the draft. I really
do create at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, no problem, Thank you, mom.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You got it. I appreciate it. Cincinnati native Bengals fan
Ben Johnson, grinding the moockx dot com. I became familiar
with his website reading a piece in The Ringer last
year right after the Shador Sanders thing went down the
way it did, and they used him to sort of illustrate, like,
here's where everybody thought that guy was gonna go, and
look at the difference between where he was expected to
(12:25):
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Reds are playing the Angels right now in Goodyear. They
have played six and a half. LA leads that ballgame
four to two. Rehet Louder started for Cincinnati pitch well
(12:48):
when three innings, did not give up a hit walk
the guy struck out three. Julian Aggiar gave up three
runs and his two innings of work offensively. The highlights
include a good day for jj Blade two hits, he
has scored a run, Jose Travino is driven in a
round he has two hits, and Reese Hines has a
triple again for two Angels, Reds getting set to bat
(13:08):
in the bottom of the seventh inning. Those games are
always weird because both teams were red college basketball. Tonight,
Miami puts its undefeated record on the line. On the
road tonight, taking on Western Michigan. Miami won the first matchup.
That game was at Mallett Hall, won by eleven points.
Tip Off is early tonight at six pm. Also Tonight,
(13:29):
Dayton's at George Washington, the Flyers looking for a fifth
consecutive win. Tomorrow, Xavier hooks up with Georgetown, a pair
of teams that are each five and twelve and Biggies play.
Musketeers won the first match up. Tomorrow's tip off is
at one thirty. XU trying to break a three game
losing streak at Cooley's team trying to break a five
game losing streak. You see hooks up with Oklahoma State Tomorrow.
(13:52):
That game tips off at two pm on seven hundred WLW.
The Cowboys are seventeen and eight, five and ten in
Big Twelve Play. Kentucky battles Vanderbilt. Commodores whipped Kentucky in
the first game by twenty five. Tomorrow's game tips off
at two o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. Also in the area,
Louisville's at Clemson at two o'clock. NKU plays its final
(14:15):
regular season game tomorrow against Wright State. That game at
NKU tips off at seven pm. I rolled through the
scenarios before, but just in case you didn't jot all
this down, the Norse can still get a home game
in the very confusing Horizon League Tournament. The Norse need
to win tomorrow and get a Detroit Mercy loss and
(14:36):
get a Purdue Fort Wayne loss and get a green
Bay win. That I mentioned that a Green Bay win,
a Detroit Mercy loss, and a Purdue Fort Wayne loss.
That's what the end. They got to win tomorrow. Lots
of stuff has to happen. Hopefully it does. Sunday, Ohio
State takes on Purdue and Indiana battles Michigan State. Both
the Buckeyes and the Hoosiers could badly use wins against
(15:00):
really good teams this weekend. FC Cincinnati and Minnesota tomorrow
at four point thirty. That game is on the Project
one hundred point seven and one oh sixty three, and
the Cyclones played tonight on the road against Fort Wayne
and then home tomorrow for Kalamazoo Skyline Chile three way
Jersey Day, and then an afternoon game on Sunday against
(15:22):
Kalamazoo as well. Uh, there you go, there you go.
Five one three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Uh, take
some phone calls. I guess eleven away from five o'clock.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
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