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February 27, 2026 17 mins

Kelsey Conway of Cincinnati.com joined us to discuss some Bengals-related Combine takeaways, her mailbag, and more. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bengals for The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com. She has
been in Indianapolis all week at the Combine and by
the way, she's also taken your question.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
She's started a new mail bag.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Her first one has been published today where she answers
a question about the Brown family, Bengals ownership, the business dynamic.
Go read that at Cincinnati dot Com and keep your
questions for Kelsey coming. I've promised her that I will
be submitting questions, but though I have nothing to do
with football, we'll see if she gets to them. I
do have football related questions for this segment. She's here now.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hi, Kelsey, Hello, how are you? I'm well? How was
or is Indianapolis?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
So? Indianapolis was great. I'm back in Cincinnati. Had a
good three nights there in Indianapolis, and you know, came
back with a lot. There's always like a lot to
digest from Combine week because it's just like so much
media access, the draft experts, the Bengals make their coordinators available, obviously,
you know what Zack Duke said. So it's just a

(01:01):
lot to digest. But it was a good week.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Was there one thing that stood out to you, whether
it be Among all the things that were said by Zach, Duke,
Al and Dan and Darren or a general draft theme,
was there one sort of overarching takeaway that stands out
above the others.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think, for me, the biggest thing that I took
away is that last year Duke had that famous line
where he said, you know, I'm not going to pay
for the same team, and then he brought back the
same a lot of the same players. I think that
them saying we have the resources is essentially them putting

(01:44):
themselves in a situation where if they do not spend
outside of you know, giving extensions or re signing players,
they put themselves in a position where they could they
have to do what they said, and that means to
go get impact players and actually spend money. I think

(02:05):
that they could have danced around it if they weren't sure,
but I think Duke, Cobin and Al Golden just coming
out and saying we need more impact players like they
weren't hiding behind the fact that they need better players.
So I think for me, the biggest takeaway that I
have is that they understand they need better players, and
that wasn't the tone I got from Duke last year,

(02:26):
So I thought that was interesting. But I will also
say I was really surprised at the core players that
Al Golden feels like he has. There's more than I thought.
So I bring that up because I think Bengals fans
need to prepare themselves for free agency. They're going to
sign players. They're going to try to try and fill

(02:48):
some holes, but they're probably not going to be those
splashy big names that you think. So those were kind
of my biggest takeaways.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I guess for me in that guard, what stood out was,
you know a lot of folks heard Al talk about
Jordan Battle and they were maybe taking the battle. That
didn't surprise me as much. I thought it was striking
to the degree that he that he endorsed b. J.
Hill and even Chris Jenkins.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, the Jordan Battle one was actually surprising to me.
I know, Jordan Battle is someone that they drafted in
the third round, and you know they had high regard
for him when he came in, and he, you know,
had some issues last year staying on the field. I
know he's got he did a good job at creating

(03:36):
some turnovers. I just don't I don't see it the
way that they do as far as like Jordan Battle
being someone you definitely go into next season saying he's
one hundred starting safety. But clearly they do. And I
don't know if they just think that because you can
only fix so much, but they were certainly talking about

(03:58):
like Jordan Battle could potentially be someone that they build
around in the future. So that was a little bit
interesting to me. I'm with you on the BJ Hill
and Chris Jenkins. I was never on board with the
Vangles re signing BJ Hill last year. I didn't think
that made sense at all, and I think it the
biggest question about BJ Hill last year was is he

(04:20):
going to be able to play enough? He you know,
he hasn't been able to get through a season with
a high volume of snaps without getting injured. But so
you say BJ Hill, he endorsed BJ and Chris. I
think that BJ Hill is coming back next year. I
know enough about that situation that I would be shocked
if they move on from him. But I think that

(04:41):
Duke also said we can play better at defensive tackle,
So in my opinion, he said, you know, I have
confidence in bj and Chris, but I do think walking
away like they know they need to get better at
d tackle, and I do expect them to sign at
least one player in free agency at defensive tax goal.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Kelsey Conway back from Indy covering the Bengals and the
Combine for The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com. You wrote
leading up to the Combine about Trey Hendrickson, and you
know this week being used as as a week to
gather intel as to whether or not they could tag
and trade him and get what they're looking for. Uh,
the window closing is getting here soon, right, and so

(05:21):
we'll see if they they got what they needed and
maybe go ahead and tag them and then trade them.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I would love to see this happen. I think it's
fair to be skeptical, skeptical about whether or not the
Bengals and Trey Hendrickson's people can actually work together to
get such a deal done.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Do you feel the same way I do.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think that I went into it truly not knowing,
like I've been trying to dig behind the scenes on
like where did the Bengals stand with this whole situation,
And no matter who I talked to, it was very
much we don't know, we don't know what, Like we
don't know what they're gonna do. We don't know what
we're going to do, and so I really had no

(06:03):
way to feel about it. Obviously, I know what I
know about, you know, the last couple of years and
almost like how toxic things have become between the Bengals
and Trey Hendrickson. But you can still never say it's
one hundred percent over because of the fact that, like
the Bengal's biggest need is pass rush and we've seen
Mike Brown say I don't care like I'll tag you.

(06:25):
I don't care. But I do think leaving the combine,
I do think it's down to two things. It's they
are going to talk. I don't know if they have,
but I had the impression that they were going to
try and talk to teams about potentially a trade. I
do think it's down to either a tag in trade

(06:47):
or they let him walk to free agency. I don't
see a scenario in which he comes back. And I'm
not saying that that's definitely going to happen, but that's
just my sense. I wasn't sure of that before, and
I didn't hear one person tell me this week that
they thought that that was even an option. So crazier
things have happened. I'll preface it with that, but I

(07:07):
think it's down to those two things. But I will
say everyone that I talked to as far as like
League sources said like and Douke Tobin even said it
like the trade part of it is really complicated and
all of this to say, well, the Bengals really got
themselves in a pickle by not trading him last March.

(07:27):
I think that they're going to see this and if
he goes to free agency and they spend and they
don't get the comp pig back that they maybe thought,
I think, and you know, they're not really one to
admit that they didn't they didn't get it right. I
think that's going to go down in these next two
years as a decision that they probably wish that they

(07:48):
could have taken back and just have moved traded him.
And you know, I do know that there were teams
that were interested in giving the Bengals a third round
pick around this time last year.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So they're not gonna they're not gonna let dot right right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
The crazy here's the crazy thing with that Mo. They
like him, but why was he not sign to an
extension the day after the season. You know, like there
are other teams, but there are other teams that agreed
to extensions during the season, And I know that Bengals

(08:25):
don't like to do it. But I think for a
guy like Dalton Reisner, who was such a great locker
room leader, like I think, you know, he probably wasn't
gonna be asking for the moon, Like I think it
could have been a very reasonable contract with an agent
who gets business. Don Drew Rosenhaus as an agent, like
he's very good at negotiating, and from what I understand,

(08:47):
like he's an agent that the Bengals actually do, like
have a good relationship with. So like for me, that's
the head scratching move where he's everything you want in
a in a veteran presence in the locker room, you
play well down the stretch, Like that deal should have
been done. They should have approached Dalton Reisner before the
end of the season and given him, hey, we value

(09:07):
you so much that we want to fleeten this deal
a little bit, knowing you probably wish you could go
to free agency. So when you ask me, they're not
going to let him go. I think that they want
it back. But I think that they got to get
move in on that because he did play well down
the stretch. And it's another one where like, I think

(09:28):
that could have been done before the end of the season.
And that's how you kind of make sure these good
players that remember Joe Burrow said, we don't like good
players leave the building. Like that's an example of one
where they got to get move in on that one.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Ruben Bain has tiny arms. Is that a disqualifier for
the Bengals?

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I think So, here's the thing. It's gonna be hard
to say if the Bengals draft Ruben Bain, If Caleb
Downs is off the board, David Bailey's off the board,
Sony Styles is off the board. Like, it's hard to
say Ruben Daine was his production, that'd be a bad pick.
I look at it this way. He's really good, He's

(10:11):
really physical. I was in there listening to him talk
to the media, like you could feel kind of his edge,
And I think the Bengals badly need some players with
edge on the defensive line. But you know what do
the Bengals need more than anything. It's someone who's going
to make an impact at the NFL level right away,
not one of these well, we got to learn how

(10:32):
to get him going with the limitations of you know,
his wingspan. I think that they need the plug and
play guy that can come in during training camp and
take over the defense. And I just don't know with
like those limitations, it's a little bit of a question
mark and the Bengals took a question mark pick with Shamar,
Like I really feel like this year it's gotta be

(10:54):
the guy that you have no questions about, and to me,
that is a that is a are on Ruben Bane.
I think he has the potential to be able to
overcome it, but it's one of those things where they've
got to knock this pick out of the park at
number ten and I just don't know if Ruben Baine,
with those questions about his arm length, is going to
be able to give the Bengals that next year.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I will say this, I thought he handled all the
questions that came at him very very well. I was
super impressed by him, and I was super impressed by
Caleb Downs, Like there's all the stuff you see when
you watch him, and I've said on this show, like
I watch really smart people break down his tape, who
know a lot more than I do, and I just
I salivate over it, and then I listened to the

(11:38):
dude talk and it's like, man, I get it, he
plays safety. There's positional value, but why would you not
want that guy on your team? And so both those players,
for me, and there were others, I thought both handled
that part of the combine extraordinarily well.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Absolutely, And I do think that Caleb downs and I
do think Sony styles. I don't based off the way
he tested, he could be gone. But I do think
those are two players that just because the Bengals have
two linebackers that they drafted last year, I do think
those are two players like high on the Bengals radar.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, by the way, I just, I don't know if
you measured your arms, but mine we're thirty and a
quarter of an inch yesterday, I measured my arms.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I have no idea, and who knows. You know, in
a couple of years, Ruben Baine, it could be awesome
and then we're I can't believe we talked about this
guy's arm length. I just know that, like, you know
what happens if it doesn't work, and it's you know,
you've got two picks back to back in years where
there were some questions about there what they project, and

(12:45):
I just think it's a year where the Bengals have
got to nail it. And I just don't know if
you can with him one more.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
If it's not Joe Flacco, who should the Bengals backup
quarterback be.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So I thought about this one a lot. And I
know if I say this name people you know my
Razor eyebrows. But let me explain why I think that
the Bengals need a player like maybe Carson Wentz, where
it's he's been a starter for multiple teams and you're

(13:20):
picking this player assuming that he is going to play
one or two games a year and they must win games.
And so when I look at the list of pending
free agent quarterbacks that I think the Bengals you know,
will pay for, he's one that me really stood out
because he's got experience in a lot of offenses that

(13:42):
Zach Taylor has high regard for, like the Rams, the Chiefs,
you know, those offenses. They're not the same as the Bengals,
But I really think that they're going to be in
the market for a guy that has won games as
a starter, not so much a name you don't know
much of I think that they learn the lesson that
you know, even if it's just a tiny injury for

(14:04):
Joe where he's you know, he's missing one game or
Max to like and you got to win those to
get into the playoffs. I think they're going to think
of it like who can come in and execute the
offense at a high level and distribute the ball. And
you know Carson Wentz he can do that. So I
think he's one that I'm curious to see the Bangles

(14:25):
interest in him and where that goes.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're taking questions from readers. You published your first mail
bag response today. Where can people submit questions to you
on what kind of questions are you looking for?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
So I am open to any questions about the Bengals
or the NFL. This is just a way for me
to try and engage with our readers over at Cincinnati
dot com. And so you can email me if you
go on Cincinnati dot com in the story my first
mail bag release, my email is in there, and then
also just shoot me a message on on X I'm
pretty active there too, and and so I will try

(15:01):
to get to as many questions as possible. I was
really excited. I got a ton of questions last week.
So if you're listening and you have a question in
mode doesn't answer it, you can take a shot with
me online. He's pretty good. He answers a lot of questions.
But if there's something else that you have, it's just
a way for me to try and engage more with

(15:21):
our readers over there. So shoot them my way.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right, check out out at Cincinnati dot com by
the way, really quick, while we're While we're on the internet,
Joel Nardi, thee bracketologist for ESPN dot com, has our
Bearcats as seventy six, next four out.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
They've got a pulse Killsey.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Do you believe as I do, that they will win
their next six games and have their name pop up
on the screen on selection Sunday?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
You know, No, it's funny out. It's Friday. I'm gonna
try and have some good fives. I'm going to the
game tomorrow. I'll be there. I'm really excited. I'm gonna
I'm just gonna sprinkle some optimism here and say let's
go for it. Sure I can out and not the
doom and gloom. It's almost March. Let's just you know,
provide some positivity around see basketball and see what they

(16:09):
can do.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I've already made plans to watch their first round NCAA
tournament game at the Holy Grail with you, so put
that on your calendar because it's online, and we'll talk soon.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Thanks so much for having me on though, you're the best.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Kelsey Conway covering the Bengals for the Inquirer and Cincinnati
dot Com. Taking your questions submit them on her mail bag.
We are way late twenty three from four o'clock sports
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