2/12/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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So we're gonna touch on here in a second. Later
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(02:14):
and you see quarterback Brendan Soorsby is gonna join us
at four thirty five. We are excited for that. We've
got some FC Cincinnati stuff to get to later on.
Latest on the Reds from Goodyear First, pitchers and catchers
work out today, bing and Goodyear sounds nice when you
go outside and it's all slushy and cold out. We'll
get to the Bengals and Joe Burrow here in a second.
You're gonna hear more from the Bengals quarterback. Let's start

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though with last night. What a difference nine days and
a game of dodgeball make nine days? I guess now
ten days ago today, ten days ago you see played
And I'm not exaggerating here what I think is the
worst game I've ever seen the UC team playing.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Don't I don't think.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
It's close quite Frankly, I don't think I have an
encyclopedic knowledge of UC basketball, but I got a good
memory when it comes to that program. The way they
played a week ago Sunday is unlike anything I have
ever seen. The frustrating thing was not that they lost
the basketball game. The frustrating thing was not what that
lost to West Virginia did to the NCAA tournament chances

(03:21):
trading thing. The thing that stood out was how they played,
how they looked, how lethargic they were, the lack of effort.
Ten days later, they've won three straight games. They have
done a total team makeover. Right, It's like one of
those shows where they make over people's houses and it's
all dingy and dirty and there's crap all over the place,

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and then you know, like in three days they turn
it over and it's like, man, this isn't the same house.
This is not the same basketball team, This isn't the
same team. Offensively that has turned into dare I say,
a slight offensive juggernaut. Now they've got defensive things they've
got to fix, and they better fix them in time Saturday.
But the one to eighty they have done a in

(04:04):
just how they're playing stylistically, b and how effectively they're
playing by winning games, and see how they have ignited
or reignited legitimate talk about this team making the NCAA Tournament.
The point guards have taken control of this team in
ways we thought they would take control of it in

(04:25):
November and December. Gisel James, who was awful against West Virginia,
has been terrific each of the last three games. He's
made a bunch of plays down the stretch. He's making
shots twenty four for his last thirty six. He's not
turning it over as much. They're playing with pace, they're
playing with purpose. To use another p word, it feels

(04:45):
like the offense makes sense for the most part. They're
taking good shots, they're forcing the issue. They're not initiating
their offense as late as they were. This looks like
forget the results, the results matter. This looks like an
entirely different team than the one that we watched not
just play a week ago this past Sunday, but get

(05:05):
through its first ten Big twelve games. They're getting performances
from Josh Reid. I don't know what to make of
Josh Reed's a play over the last couple of games,
but last night in crunch time, he was making plays
on both ends of the floor that could be viewed

(05:26):
as season savers. This was a guy who early in
the season, was barely playing, and it's a guy who
when he has played, you've wondered what could he give
this team. Now you're kind of starting to wonder what
would life be like without Josh Reed. He was terrific
last night. More than anything, they've pulled themselves off the mat.
If the NCAA Tournament bracket were being drawn up today,

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the Bearcats would be on the outside looking in. And
they continue to work with a very small margin for air.
They're still just five and eight in the league, but
they've at least set themselves up to take advantage of
an opportunity. The opportunity is Saturday, Cincinnati goes on the
road to play and outstanding Iowa State team, an outstanding

(06:09):
Iowa State team that's gonna challenge them defensively in ways
they haven't been challenged now for weeks. Win that one,
and I think it's gonna kick tournament hopes into hyperdrive.
And I think we'll wake up on Monday morning and
look at different bracketologists projections and see the Bearcats, if
not in the field, at least closer. You'll hear the

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audio a little bit later on, Wes Miller was already
playing that card after the game last night of nobody
on Earth is gonna give us a chance to go
to Iowa State and win, and nobody will.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, let's let's let's be honest. They're on the road.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Uh. The way this team has played all season long
would not make you think they have much of a
puncher's chance against Iowa State. But the way they've played
the last three, if they can look that fast and
loose and play that unburdened, this is a chance on
Saturday for the at least so far signature win the
West Miller Era, And it's an opportunity on Saturday to

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really show that you belong in the conversation to make
the NCAA tournament. I give them credit for getting to
this point because I was dreading Saturday. Now I'm pretty
stoked about it. That's a result of the three wins.
It's also a result of how they've played in these
three games. Your thoughts are always welcome in five when
three seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty and eight sixty six

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seven oh two, three seven seven six. By the way,
FC Cincinnati has just made it official they have traded
twenty twenty three MLS MVP Lucho Acosta to Dallas FC
Dallas in exchange for six million dollars. So that's good.
Now there are reports that they have acquired Evander Evander,

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one of these one name dudes MLS MVP finalists last
year for the Portland Timbers. This is remarkable. This is
a guy who was in Lucho Acosta the league MVP
in twenty twenty three, had some not so cryptic comments
at the end of the season last year once FC
Cincinnati lost in the MLS Cup playoffs and we spent

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the offseason wondering. Is a guy that they have relied
on so heavily, obviously during his MVP season, But you
think of last year, how many times were it felt
like they were asking Lucho Acosta to do too much.
He had his comments last week to Laurel Failure of
Queen City Press about his falling out with Chris Albright,
and it has resulted in Lucco being sent to FC Dallas.

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A city that just lost a star. Now they're getting
a star. I'm not sure this is gonna make anybody
feel any better. In the aftermath of the Mavericks trading
away Luka Doncic, but number but nonetheless they get a
bona fide star. Lucho Acosta had to sign off on this.
And again there are reports out there of FC Cincinnati
landing Evander from the Portland Timbers. Of Ander, he had
twenty twenty four MLS MVP finalist. More on that throughout

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the afternoon. We'll have this audio here for you and
we're gonna spend more time on it later on. But
I want you to listen to this. This is from
Pardon My Take, Friends of the show. If you go
back aways. Joe Burrow was on that podcast and the
latest in his national media blitz where he's putting pressure

(09:17):
on the Bengals. Now, a lot of folks have looked
at the Philadelphia Eagles winning the Super Bowl and drawing
comparisons to the Bengals and how they need to build
their team moving forward, and so Joe is gonna comment
on that. I just I've shifted my thinking a little
bit when it comes to this, when it comes to
Joe putting public pressure on the Bengals to do what

(09:37):
he wants. I want you to listen to this, and
I want you to remember everything you've heard Joe say
over the last couple of weeks. Really the last excuse
me a couple of months. Every quote that you've read
and just ask yourself, is is this a guy who's
gonna be okay with it if the Bengals don't do
it his way and what they do doesn't work. Go ahead,

(10:02):
tear and play that audio. Joe Burrow on part of my.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Take, I'm not gonna ask if you're going to restructure
your deal. I'm going to actually ask what does that mean?
Restructuring a deal? Can you explain to us, like we're five?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah, So you could do a couple of different things.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
You could convert some of the money to a signing bonus,
which will lower the cap hit.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
You can push some of the money to the back
end of the contract, and then when you get to
the that lowers the cap hit. And then when you
get to the back end of the contract you can
restructure it and convert it to a signing bonus.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Okay, Then you can also just take less money.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
And which one were you going to do? We'll see
tructure take any less money? Right, you just get you could?

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Okay, you could, but it's most of the guys just
converted to signing bonus.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Yeah, is that you would do that?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Would do that?

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, Okay, it is.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
It is a weird situation though, that you're in because,
like I think that's just part of what happens with
the quarterbacks where it's like there's a little more pressure
on them where they have the biggest deal, so they
if they want to get flexibility, a lot of times
it comes down to the quarterback to have to be
the guy who has to step up and do that.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
At the same time, though, the.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
This was the last year that all the COVID like
cap money restrictions across the league were implemented. So the
next like three or four years, I think the CAP's
gonna just.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Caps going up.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
The CAP's going out.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Okay, we just keep saying caps going up.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Caps going to Higgins last year, it'll probably be similar.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
You've definitely crunched, You've definitely like been laying in bed
late at night just looking at like a sprench.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
You'd be like, okay, all right, GAP's going up. You
understand the cap?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
I mean not really kind of, because we don't think
that it exists way more than we do. Well, Definitely,
some teams seem to make it feel that way.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yeah, I have just pretended it doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
For a while, and the Eagles are paying everybody.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
Yeah, so it seems like the way whatever they're doing.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I think those are the most thoughtful comments we've heard,
you know, and I We've talked about this a little bit.
Joe's not just flying off the handle, you know, you hear,
and I've been guilty of it, you hear. Fans sometimes
just bay him.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Just get it done, Like he just.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Outlined for you how it can get done, and he
acknowledged his role in getting it done, and he acknowledged
some financial realities that are about to set in here
in the second half of the decade. Just ask yourself this,
If they don't do it his way, if they don't

(12:42):
do it Joe's way, and the way they do do
it doesn't work, do we think Joe's just gonna shrug
his shoulders. We are entering a critical phase in Joe
Burrow's career, which means we're entering a very critical phase
in this franchise's history. They better not get this wrong.

(13:03):
And if they get it wrong, and they get it
wrong while not doing it Joe's way, do we really
think do we really think he's just gonna shrug his
shoulders and go yeah, okay. Five point three seven four nine,
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(13:24):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
You see, when's a third consecutive game.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
They take care of business in the two games against.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Teams from Utah that they lost to on the road,
not on the heels of beating UCF last week. And
they're playing well. They're playing well offensively. They have a
major test on Saturday with Iowa State on the schedule.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Next.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Scott Springer covers uc Sports for the Cincinnati Inquirer and
Cincinnati dot Com. He was there last night.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
He's with us. Now, Hi, Scott, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (14:15):
I just finished my workout at the Beispont Racket Club
because you have to have sound mind and body to
do a Moager interview, and I'm not sure I have either,
but I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
But yeah, more fun to hear the place charing.

Speaker 10 (14:29):
And like I've always said, my job's easier when the
Bearcats win, and they're certainly on a little roll here
three game win streak and three straight games over eighty points,
which you would have never bet on that about two
weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yeah, I mean, what a difference nine days make, right,
I mean, that game against West Virginia made everybody angry
because of the loss. But I do more than anything
the effort, the offensive stagnancy, if that's the right word,
the inability over a long stretch of time to get
anything going shooting the basketb To go from that in
less than two weeks to what we're seeing now offensively

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is really one of the more remarkable, very quick in
season makeovers I've ever seen.

Speaker 10 (15:10):
Well, and he doesn't want to talk about the dodgeball,
but you know, I kind of knew about it. I
had talked with Terry Nelson before the game, and I
did a little video and I said, you see lighting
it up. I didn't mention dodgeball because my fear was, Okay,
if I say dodgeball and UCF plaster them, clasters them,
then everyone's mad at me because I brought up dodgeball.
So I try to keep the piece as I can.

(15:32):
And then Wes brought it up on the postgame show.
So yeah, this is the season right now with Patches,
O Hulahan and Bob Huggins at UCF getting the boys gone.
And you know what, Wes made a great point though.
All he did was he took him down to the
practice gym kind of the dungeon down there, and they
let him down there on the Monday after the West

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Virginia game, and the guys all thought, well, this is
going to be a torturist practice or we're going to
go up and down. And then they got out the
dodgeball and the staff and the coaches played and they
were like kids. And so he's been able to get
that in their heads. Play like kids, you know, play
care free and loose. I like day day Thomas starting.
I thought that the team has always ran a little

(16:14):
bit better with him to make it crazy on some plays,
but it'll do some plays that are just you know,
and even Craig Smith, the Utah coach, last night, he said,
they have better playmakers. You know, we don't have a
day Day Thomas or Ogisel James that can come down
and do what they do well.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
And if you would have told me that they're going
to turn this season around, I would have said, those
two guys have to be involved.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's hard to imagine this thing getting set straight without
those two guys playing better. I don't think I had
Josh Reed in consecutive games making the plays he's made
on my Bengo guard.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
Well, no, I mean who did Let's face it, early
in the season, if you saw number ten came in
and you're a fan, you're probably.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Going, why is he putting him in? Why did he
keep putting him in? And I'll give you a very reference.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
Because I'm good at those, but a very dated baseball reference.
You remember Corey Patterson that played for the Red Yeah,
and Dussy Becker would continually play him and everyone said.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Why is he putting him in all the time? Is
that his son? What's up with that?

Speaker 10 (17:15):
But Josh Reid has surpassed Corey Patterson, and Josh Reid
is a major contributor and you know, you have to
believe West now. It's like this is what they've been seeing.
So maybe this is all he needed was a bunch
of confidence.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
But you know, he comes in and he wants to.

Speaker 10 (17:31):
Be there and he gives you the efforts. Same with
Ravon Griffith. Just minuscule moments, but he really wants to
be a bearcat. And that's who you need on the floor.
The guys that are hungry and the guys that aren't
hungry are going to have to.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Sit and wait until they decide they're hungry.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yet they've transformed themselves offensively. It feels like it's come
at the expense a little bit of what they do
on the defensive side of the floor. So I guess
what I'm wondering is, maybe, specifically on Saturday, are they
to be able to get stops when the shots don't fall.

Speaker 10 (18:05):
Well, they're gonna need to. Let's face it, this is
a massive undertaking Saturday. Iowa State is extremely good. The
players back. I'm gonna butcher his names, Mam Silovich maybe
something like that. You know, I'm talking about a good
three point shooter. But they were not the same without him.
They were three and four without him, and they had,

(18:27):
you know, a major losing streak. So he's back and
they beat UCF down there. Well, you know, UCF beat
or ucv U SEF down there. So the problem is
Hilton Coliseum. They won all their games there last year
eighteen and the streak was at twenty nine until Kansas
State stopped him earlier this year and everyone said, well

(18:51):
that was a major upset. Well maybe not, because Kansas
State's now playing like the Kansas State that they thought
that they bought. And that's not a slam I'm at them,
but they spent a lot of money on that team.
And when I was there with UC and they lost
to Kandas State, the complaint was, well the Wildcats, you know,
they've had all this money and they're not getting much.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Well, the Wildcats look good that night, beat uc by.

Speaker 10 (19:13):
Three, and now the Wildcats are looking pretty good and
knocking people off. You know, beating Arizona's a pretty good win.
So you know, if you want to talk about a
good loss, I don't believe that. But but Kansas State
is better now than they were. And you know, Kandas
State went in and beat Iowa State. So to beat
them at Hilton Coliseum. I mean that was a twenty

(19:34):
nine game win streak. I think overall over two seasons
it was snapped. And then they're back and they've got
one of their better players back. So the odds are
big time against the Bearcats. But you know, if you
can go back to the dodgeball thinking, it's like, okay,
they got five guys, we got five guys, and here's
here's the ball that let's go. And if you can
think like that, these guys have all played top level

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AAU games.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
If they can get that in their head, maybe they
have a chance.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I know you're not a bracketologist. Most of us have
simplified this and said get to do the lot of
them on the X though that I find, Oh, I've noticed,
I've noticed. I'm not a bracketologist. I don't believe you are.
But I think most of us have said, okay, get
to ten even before the season started. Get to ten
and ten of the Big twelve and they're in. I
have a hard time believing that a team that wins

(20:24):
half of its games in this league doesn't have its
name on the screen on Selection Sunday. If they're shy
of that. And I'm not talking about you know, finishing
with seven league wins. But if you know they go
nine and eleven, uh, can they still make the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 10 (20:42):
It just depends on how the tea leaves fall with
everybody else. You know, there's just so much basketball to
be played between now and then. So right now, yeah, today,
I'm with you. I say, if you get to ten
and ten, to me, you're in, because it's that good
of a league. And I had to point out to
somebody that you know, last year, every team that finished
five hundred are above and remember it was an eighteen
game season, but all the nine and nine they all

(21:04):
made it. Now, maybe the nets were different, I don't know,
but right now, ten wins in the Big twelve is
quite an accomplishment in my book.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
And I don't see how you wouldn't get in.

Speaker 10 (21:16):
But you know, I'm not on the phone with Jim
Nantcer or Minardi or any of those guys late in March,
and so that's just my guess.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
All I know is what I see and what I've
observed over the years, and I.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
Think you get a pretty solid argument if you have
ten dig twelve wins, and right now, that's not easy.
You know, you're five and eight, so you're five and
two is not particularly easy. You know, everyone's you're you know,
your average fan is writing off Houston and Iowa State
and then you're just shrugging your shoulders and oh, well.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah they'll beat Baylor.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
Well late Kansas State is pretty good. You know, look
at Kansas State's doing. Oklahoma State is down there at
their place, not a pushover West Virginia at their place,
not a pushover BYU had to fight to beat ten
last night. So none of the games are easy. Anything's possible.
And you know, for me to predict anything, you know,

(22:11):
maybe I get some hits out of that.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm not smart enough to do that.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
I'm just telling you what I think, and I can't
positively say yeah they're in with ten or no they're
not with ten. Gut feeling yeah, if they get ten wins,
I think they're in.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I'm with you, all right, Well, great minds, think alike,
enjoy Iowa. Thank you as always.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
There's a lot to do there in names, and I'll
include it in my five star travel guid.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
I look forward to reading that at the end of
the season.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Scott Springer, covering UC basketball for the Inquirer and Cincinnati
dot Com. You See Ison Iowa State Saturday at four o'clock.
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Speaker 4 (23:32):
Done deal. According to Laurel Failer Cleeen City Press, FC
Cincinnati has traded Lucho Acosta to FC Dallas and exchange
for five million dollars plus another one million add ons
if he hits certain performance marks. Laurel did a great
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deal to acquire midfielder Evander, he just goes by a Vander.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
He's got a like most people.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
He's got a full name, Evander da Silva Ferira, but
he just goes by Evander like Prince cher Madonna. Evander.
FC Cincinnati is gonna acquire him in exchange for twelve
million dollars plus add ons, and uh so, there you go.
And Evander was an MVP finalist last year, so he's
pretty good. Reds pitchers and catchers. No injury news today, right,

(24:35):
we got during the show yesterday we found out Thert
Louder he's dealing with something that they no big deal.
It's this little soreness MRI, no structural damage. He's fine,
don't panic, Like I'm sorry. In my lifetime rooting for
this team, I can't tell you how many times there's
been something in spring training. No big deal, Like it's

(24:59):
not apples to apples. That's maybe not even fair Matt
McClain last year during spring training, No big.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Deal, don't don't, don't, don't go on your show and
making a big deal.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I was told that by somebody with the club last year.
Don't go on your show and pretend that this guy
is falling. Dude never played an inning in twenty twenty four.
So I hope Rhet Louder is okay. I can't wait
to watch him pitch. I liked watching him pitch in
the thirty year so innings he pitched last year. But
on like before they've even had a workout, here's this

(25:30):
like prized prospect, and the first thing you're hearing is, well,
you know he's got a little elbow sword. It is
no big The night before I was listening to Lance
Had on the Team Doctor. He was talking about how
great Rhet Louder was swinging a golf club the day before.
So maybe you heard it. I don't know, but it's
just one of those things. If you're a fan of

(25:50):
this team, you've heard no big deal, it's gonna be okay.
Like I remember Ryan Madson twelve years ago. Okay, remember
I got hurt playing catch old on No big deal
and the dude never pitched for the team, so logically
we should probably assume it's not a big deal. Emotionally,

(26:11):
I've been through this before and we all have. Reds
have played their first Cactus League game, two of them
a week from Saturday. College basketball Tonight, Xavier takes on
Providence on the road this evening eight o'clock. Here's your
tip off on seven hundred WLW. Their game tonight's on
a streaming service. Xavier Providence It's on a streaming service tonight.

(26:33):
So we're supposed to pretend like the Big East is
a dumpy league because of that too. Is that how
it works? Friars are eleven to thirteen. They have lost
three straight. Musketeers trying to bounce back after the loss
on Sunday in Sir Urban in Philadelphia against Villanova. Ohio
State takes on Washington tonight and the Dayton Flyers in
New York to battle Fordham. Ohio State is about to

(26:55):
hire Matt Patricia as their new defensive coordinator. Matt Patricia
keeps getting jobs. He replaces Jim Knowles, who bolted for
Penn State and hockey. Tonight, the Cincinnati Cyclones play at Iowa, Iowa,
getting set for a Cincinnati invasion this week between the
Cyclones tonight and the Bearcats on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
You know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I'm still If you ask me to wager and you
seeds odds are not listed, you could go to FanDuel
and there's like fifteen schools that you could wager on
whether or not they'll make the tournament. As of last night,
the Bearcats were not listed. I think most of us
would bet against them making the tournament right now. Part
of it is like they've played really great over the
last three games, but you know, the overall Big twelve

(27:44):
body of work isn't great. They have some really tough games.
You know, you can focus on Iowa State and Houston.
They have to beat West Virginia who beat them by fifteen.
They have to beat Kansas State who beat them. They
have to beat a Baylor who slaughtered them by twenty
five points, like it's not just it's not five oh,
and then the two games against Iowa State and UH

(28:04):
in Houston. But all I asked a week and a
half ago was just give give give me, give me
a reason to think that if they do what we
don't think they can do, that they're going to make
the tournament, like, just perk me up a little bit,
make me forget about the game against West Virginia, And

(28:24):
to be honest, I haven't totally forgotten about it, but
they've they've played a lot better, they look a lot better.
It's been an in season makeover, and I hope it continues.
More on that particular topic coming up after four o'clock.
Speaking of the Bearcats, Brendan Sorosby's going to join us
at four thirty five. A guy who the first half

(28:45):
of the season was playing like one of the best
quarterbacks in the Big twelve, a guy who in the
second half of the season struggled, and that's putting up
my ownly. We'll chat with Brendan coming up at four
thirty five and more on the Joe Burrow comments. This
is the thought guy. This isn't somebody just popping off
like this is this We'll play the audio again for you.

(29:07):
This is someone who has thought this t Higgins thing through.
And I think we have to entertain at least the
possibility that things could get nuclear down the road if
he doesn't get his way and if they don't win.
And I'll ask you this, would you rather do it?

(29:27):
Joe Burrow's way or Duke Tobin's way. If it came
down to that, it might not be the most fair question,
because maybe Duke Tobin's way is Joe Burrow's way, but
I think I'd rather do it Joe Burrow's way. Seventeen
away from four o'clock, phone calls are coming up as well.
Those of you will wait on hold tight. First, we
get a chat with our buddy Rick Boring from a

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I did not mention in the sports headlines. It's hard
for me to say this with a straight face. Jermaine
Pratt has asked the Bengals to trade them sore you go.
I cannot imagine that every other NFL team isn't having
emergency meetings today to find out what they could do
to try him away from the Bengals. More on that,
as we say, coming up in the four o'clock hour. Meanwhile,

(31:03):
Xavier is getting set to take on Providence tonight. It's
a road game for the Musketeers. Eight o'clock is your
tip off. You'll hear the game live on seven hundred WLW,
and of course you will get complete coverage of Xavier
hoops at Musketeer report dot com, which is where we
find our friend Rick Boring, also color analyst on NKU
broadcast the Norris losing their homecoming game to Robert Morris

(31:27):
on Saturday, and the King of Facebook, Rick is with us.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
How's it going.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Doing, Wallmo?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I'm doing all right? Xavier fans not doing great right now?
Did the bubble burst on Sunday and the loss of Villanova.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, I think having control of their own destiny first,
you know, could they win out the rest of the way,
and then with a weak bubble and things go their
way and limited big thiefs in the conference tournaments go
the right way, could they still get in that large bid? Potentially? Maybe?
But if they had won that game at Villanova, given

(32:06):
them another quad one win, and who knows, Creighton's sitting
there right at thirty two in the net, Yukon's right
at thirty one in the net, So maybe you'd have
a couple more quad one wins there. Your resume could
have all of a sudden looked pretty good and maybe
even have been good enough to avoid Dayton and you
felt like you were really in control the rest of

(32:26):
the way. Now you're gonna need some help. And so
the other part of it is this team winning seven
straight games in the Big East, given their biggest winning
streaks so far in conference play is three games, and
that was the only time that they've won consecutive games
so far this season in conference play, it just seems
like a big ask.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Seemed like a big ask, especially when you're two and seven.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
On the road.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing. I mean, it's all signs.
Like as much as we could start talking about the
resume and what it's going to take to get in,
the bigger question is like, why do we think this
team can win seven straight games. Yes, it's a weaker
East set up for them. They had most of their
really difficult games in the first half of the conference season.
But as you mentioned, they've still got to go on

(33:11):
the road three more times than you know, at Providence,
at seedon Hall, and at Butler. None of those are
guarantees for this team, so it's going to be a
difficult hal, especially when you still have a Creighton coming
to the Cents Center as well.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
I would imagine that back in October, even if you
didn't think this was going to be a great team,
that you probably didn't imagine that on February the twelfth
that they would be where they are, which is with
the season hanging by a thread. And I know you
and I have talked about some of the disappointments as
at certain points during the season with these many games

(33:48):
under their belt, what's been the most disappointing thing about
this season from a Xavier perspective.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's funny though. I wrote a column on my website
before the season started saying three bold per addictions for
the upcoming season, and one of the predictions I made
was that Xavier would win an NCAA tournament game. And
I thought, you know, given that they hadn't made the
tournament and they had lost Desmond Claude and Quincy Alvari,
that like, there's a lot to replace there. I thought

(34:16):
saying that they would win a tournament game was a
pretty bold statement. I got crushed on my message board, like,
if you think this team can only win a tournament game,
you're an idiot. How is that a bold prediction? All
of these types of things. So I was like, okay,
you know what I mean, there's a point taken. I
guess I don't know what I'm talking about. And you know,
it turns out I think everyone would would take that now, obviously,

(34:38):
if you would say they were going to win a
tournament game. So I think the biggest thing is that
when we saw how they were making up this roster
in the offseason, and Okay, Desmond Claude's leaving and you're
going with three guards and you're bringing in Dante Maddox
and Ryan Conwell, really big time three point shooters at
their previous stops. It just felt like this team was

(35:00):
going to score ninety plus points a game potentially, and
maybe they need to, because defensively it didn't seem like
they were going to be all that good. Running out
that Fremantle as their center and with all the guards.
I just talked about Marcus Foster in that lineup as
another offensive piece. It just seemed like they'd spread the floor,
they'd run and gun, they'd play up tempo and that

(35:21):
Sean Miller system, and they'd score a ton of points.
And never at any point this year did it really
feel like they were that style of offense, a really
confident group that was gun slinging, firing up a bunch
of threes, and just decimating you with their overwhelming offensive
talent and skill. In fact, in a lot of games,
it felt like they didn't have enough skill in shooting

(35:43):
and they didn't have a go to guy on offense,
and they kind of shied away from those moments. So
I think if I was a Xavier fan, that would
be the part that would would bother me the most.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Uh, what about Providence can bother them tonight.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, I'm really interested in seeing what both teams look like.
You know, Providence is a team that has probably three
of their best players out right now, and one of
them in Wesley Cardett transfer from Chicago State. Their head coach,
Kim English, seems exasperated with his situation. It seems like
that there's a lot of that going around right now
across the country with guys who have been maybe cleared

(36:19):
to play, or it's ambiguous about whether they're cleared to
play or not, and the head coach doesn't even seem
to know the situation.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
So there seems to be.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
A bit of that going on at Providence right now.
Plus they've clearly already played their way out of anything
meaningful this season, so I don't know where their head
space is at. And then it'll be fascinating to see
first Xavier coming off the Villanova loss and now feeling like, okay,
it's a pretty outside remote possibility that they get in
that large bid. Now, where's their head's going to be at?

(36:49):
Our guys starting to think about how's it going for me?
And where am I going in the transfer portal after
the season is over, and what's next door. Are they
going to band together and think, hey, they're still an
outside chance, let's finish this thing off right. If they
do the ladder, then I think this is a decent
matchup for them. Providence doesn't have much of an inside presence.
They rely on their three point shooting on the perimeter,

(37:10):
and that's something that over the last month Xavier's actually
done a pretty good job of defending. So I think
Xavier can match up pretty well with Providence. But playing
on the road at the amp is never easy.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Are you gonna get flooded with a bunch of complaints
tonight that the game is on Peacock?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Probably? But I'm to the point where like I really
don't even check social media notifications at this point. I
kind of just like put my stuff out there and
let it go.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah, we're we're we're on the same page. I do
know this that you know as a UC fan, and
the games are kind of all over the place that
I have found that no matter what television outlet the
game is on, people are unhappy. Like the game could
be on all four major broadcast networks at the same
time and you would still find somebody with a gripe.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
So Uh, maybe just that's just a TV thing.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
No, No, you're you're right about that. So I had
Darren Horne on the show last Friday, and you know
it even said to him like, it feels kind of
like your team is turning the corner.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
And then they lost their homecoming game. What happened against
Robert Morris.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I think that was a disheartening loss for NK
youth fans. And for a lot of the game, you know,
i'd say probably thirty plus minutes of it, I thought,
NK you played really well, at least on the offensive.
Then they and that was my biggest concern about this
team is where is the offensive firepower? Do they have
enough to even win games against good teams? And initially

(38:40):
they looked like they did in that game. They were
running and gunning, but then the final several minutes they
just quit scoring completely, and really throughout the game they
struggled defensively to guard Robert Morris. They're big man Alberto Fulgaris,
who has been one of the most promising pieces this
year as a sophomore in the conference, and he's really

(39:01):
developed from his freshman season. He had a huge game
So against NKU went for over thirty points. So, I mean,
you know, the defense never showed up in that game,
and I think that was the most frustrating part for
Darren Horn and probably NKU fans watching. But I would
also say, like if NKU scored seventy six points, they're

(39:22):
going to win a lot of games in the Horizon League.
So I feel pretty confident that Darren Horton this staff
will get the defense back on track. They need to
continue scoring like they did in that game.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Are you excited to spend Valentine's Day in Wisconsin?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
With Jim Kelch. I mean, what could be more romantic
than that?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
So Green Bay on Friday, and then Milwaukee, which is
one of my favorite cities on Sunday. Last week for
your Facebook column, you wrote about college basketball officiating.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I enjoyed that column.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, I mean what did you think?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Where are you at on a Do you think fans
are just complaining about nothing? Or do you think college
basketball officiating is not very good?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I have complaints.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
If I listen to other people, I'm left to assume
that in no sport, in no league, is the officiating
any good.

Speaker 14 (40:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
My issue is with all the replay reviews it's not
with the officials missing the subjective stuff. The thing that
usually drives me nuts I see less and less of,
which is an officiating making a call when he's not
in position like I don't know if they have emphasized this,
but just in watching the sport, I feel like we
have less instances where an official standing at mid court

(40:36):
makes a call on a play under the basket that
the dude who's standing under the basket doesn't blow his
whistle for I think we have less and less of that.
I give these guys a bigger break than most because
I think they have really hard jobs. I don't see
that many mistakes with the administrative part of what they do,
beyond there being too many replay reviews. I think they
do okay with the subjective stuff. I'll also say this

(41:00):
that as a UC fan, seeing a lot of new
and different officials from the American Athletic Conference has probably
altered my outlook on this at least a little bit.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, I think maybe part of my issue as I
see a lot of Horizon League officials and that's probably
not the highest level of the sport, but one issue
that drives me nuts. To your point, I mean it's
a hard job. There's a lot of rules. Guys are
really athletic. It's hard to call and see all this
stuff in real time. I think I see it one
way in real time, and then I watch a replay
and I'm like, oh, actually, if I had a better
eye than I did, I was wrong about that one.

(41:34):
So I don't get as worked up about that stuff.
I get way more worked up about the administrative stuff
and then how they handle coaches, Like I'm so sick
of seeing the officials get worked up because coaches are
yelling at them or fans are yelling at them, and
they're going back and forth with them, and then now
like they're flustered and they're missing stuff. It's like, just
do your job. The coaches are going to yell at you.

Speaker 15 (41:53):
You know that coming in.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It's what you signed up for. Quit worrying about that.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Just go on, move on, all right.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
So what I want you to do, uh, for this
week is it's Valentine's Day. You're gonna be in Green Bay,
which I hear is just terrific. For Valentine's Day, I
want you to rank the Horizon League cities from worst
to best for places you would like to spend Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
You know the problem for this is we lost the
best city we used to have U. I see you
go to Chicago, take your date to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
No longer can do that, So I gotta one more
tradive if you.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Can fold it into the conversation if you want.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I mean, I don't have a problem with that, but
I'd like to know in case I ever decided to
take my wife to a Horizon League city for Valentine's Day,
I'd like to know which ones to go to and
which ones to avoid.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Which wh's why wouldn't you you know? What's the second divorce?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Hopefully not as costly? Rick Broring, thank you so much.
All right, musketeerraport dot com and you'll hear them on
Friday night in Green Bay for NKU versus. We are
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Speaker 13 (43:06):
My name is Kyle Tame.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
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(43:38):
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to join us in just about twenty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's been a busy day. From a news perspective.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Jermaine Burton has reportedly requested a trade from the Bengals.
This according to ESPN's Ian Rapaport, Jermaine was a guy
that a lot of us have talked about, maybe being
a cab casualty. Maybe a guy who's still just twenty
eight years old could benefit from a change of scenery.
Perhaps someone who has asked about a contract extension and
hasn't liked what he has heard, and so we will

(44:14):
see what happens with him. We've talked about the Bengals
in a quiet offseason and maybe a stated desire for
a lot of fans to have a quiet offseason.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
A quiet off season doesn't.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Seem like it's anything remotely possible, and frankly, I don't
think it's anything remotely possible for most NFL teams. I'm
gonna get to that coming up here in just a
few minutes. Also, FC Cincinnati made it official. Luco Acosta
is on his way to Dallas, traded to Dallas FC.
Congratulations to Lucco for a terrific run in Cincinnati. Somebody

(44:49):
who I would imagine that the body of work as such,
and it got weird at the end, There's no doubt
about that. But the body of work here was such,
and he was the best player on easily the best
team in franchise history, such a huge part of this
franchise becoming a Major League soccer contender, at least for
a while, a major league soccer powerhouse that.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I would imagine he is. He's still viewed favorably here.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
There are reports that have f C Cincinnati has required
Evander one name and an MVP finalist. I have a
hard time when I see MLS MVP. Something happens to
my brain and you just heard what that sounded like.
An MLS MVP finalist last season with the Portland Timbers.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
So a lot going on. We haven't heard about any
more Reds injuries. That's been good. And we've got a
bear cant win last night to talk about as well.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
With UC taking a step, they have made this game
on Saturday matter and they have turned it into one
that instead of dreading what it might look like, I
am excited for it. They are going to be huge underdogs.
I'm not going to tell you that I am an
anticipating them winning, but had the losing continued through these

(46:05):
previous three games, this game on Saturday doesn't matter at all.
Now it matters a ton, and I think ten days
ago that's pretty much all you could have asked for.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Meanwhile, we've got folks waiting five win three seven fifteen
thirty and eight sixty six seven two three seven seven
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Good afternoon, How are you no?

Speaker 16 (46:28):
Everyone's checking their boards, checking their pocketbooks, trying to find
out how they can get Jermaine Pratt, I mean, and
they're concerned. It's breaking news.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
The league's and I've.

Speaker 16 (46:39):
Stated up board, they all know what to do and
all series.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
As we know.

Speaker 16 (46:43):
This is just like Joe Mixon, we'll be lucky if
we get a seventh.

Speaker 15 (46:46):
Round draft pick.

Speaker 16 (46:47):
I mean, he knew he was going to get cut.
I suppose now so, but like you said that, we
we knew there wasn't going to be a quiet offseason.
And you asked earlier, would you wrap whether it be
Duke Tobin's way or Joe Burrow's way. Joe burrow Is
way is the only way to win. We can't win
with Duke Tobin's way.

Speaker 15 (47:06):
We've seen that way.

Speaker 16 (47:08):
It's the Mike Brown way. It's the way of you know,
getting guys that you know are either no good or
guys that will soon probably and I don't want to
say it'll be in prison, but mo way that Jermaine
Burton's going he'll be in prison, well.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I'll stop short of that. It certainly doesn't look like
he has a a an NFL future worth betting on.
I mean, look, I gotta think the Jermaine Pradd thing.
First of all, if I'm running the Bengals, I'm cutting Jermaine.
You mention me b the Jermaine Pradd thing. If I'm
running the Bengals, I'm cutting Jermaine Pratt and him coming
to me and saying I want to trade, my response
would be that would be awesome because if I trade you,

(47:49):
I can get something for you, and if I cut you,
I don't get anything. So, yes, Jermaine, why don't you
work with us? Let's find a trade partner and if
we could do that a player that we don't have
a long term for, awesome, we get something for him.
So that would be my response to Jermaine Pratt. As
it relates to Joe Burrow getting his way, I think
the timing of him saying what he is saying matters here.

(48:12):
He didn't speak up in August about this about t Higgins,
he didn't go on an off season media tour a
year ago. Joe Burrow let Joe Burrow let this play out,
and he allowed there to be some time to see, Okay,
what could this look like at wide receiver? Is a
tea replacement on our roster? Could Jermaine Burton be that guy?
Obviously the answer is no. Could Andrey Yoshavas be that guy?

(48:35):
I think pretty obviously the answer is no, Joe waited
until December. Joe waited until the season had basically bottomed
out to say what he said. So I think he
has given time for Duke Tobin to get it figured
out as it relates to showing that you can replace
players who leave because you know, they hit the market,
and seeing what we might be able to be without

(48:56):
T Higgins. So he's given Duke Tobin a shot, and
now he wants it done differently, and he's being emphatic
about it, and so go ahead.

Speaker 16 (49:06):
Yeah, I was just gonna say no, you make a
good point. He's doing it now, and he's doing it
before free agency. I feel like you said, you know,
you wondered when he might, you know, really turn up
the pressure and want to get out of here. Well,
I feel like we see this free agency play out,
and if he doesn't like what happens in free agency,
he might ask for a trade right after free agency.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Me you know, I think that's the part of this
that's so interesting and makes it so complex. We don't
know what his response is going to be. We don't
know what the fallout is going to be. If I
were to guess, he will try to make do with
what the Bengals do this offseason and be open minded
about it, and play hard and prepare and do everything

(49:50):
he can to achieve better results with the teammates that
he has. What I would wonder though, is if we
are in late November or if we are in December
of next year and t Higgins isn't here and some
of the other players that Joe wants aren't here. If
he was angry, testy, if he was clearly dissatisfied with

(50:12):
the state of the team in November and December of
this year, what's gonna be coming out of his mouth
in November and December of next year. I think that
that's that's the part Joe is moving into a very
crucial part of his career. Where I said this to
Tony and Austin. There have only been five quarterbacks in
the history of the sport who have won their first

(50:33):
Super Bowl after they've already played eight years. It sort
of feels like, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna have
to start happening now. Joe is gonna be he's not old,
he's in the prime of his career. But this isn't
a guy who's likely to be you know, winning his
first when he's, you know, thirty four years old. We're
in the window right now, and so I think you

(50:53):
have to take that into consideration, look at what's happened
the previous two years and ask yourself, Okay, if a
year from now, if they do it, if they do
it another way beyond the one that Joe wants and
it doesn't work, are we sure at that point this
guy's not gonna ask for a trade, make more noise,
let his dissatisfaction be known.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I don't think we want to go down that road now.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I also think that if they do it Joe's way
and they don't win, well, then that's on Joe Burrow.
Let's be honest, Joe. We did it your way. We
brought back all the players you want to bring back.
We did things financially the way you want it. It
doesn't work, well, that's okay, that's on you, and then
Joe can deal with the fallout and the Bengals can
deal with the fallout from that fallout. But I think

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many are underestimating the sort of muscles that Joe may flex,
or may try to flex, at least if they don't
do what he wants and they don't win.

Speaker 16 (51:52):
I think you're right, Mo, and I do think so
that fans would be more accepting of Joe Burrow's way
losing than losing Duke Tobin's way.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, and the thing Ron, thank you very much. We
Duke Tobin may be in complete concert with Joe Burrow.
Duke Tobin may be one thousand percent on board, and
they they're gonna get the T Higgins thing done here
very quickly. And the team is gonna look and have
the same feel that Joe Burrow once. I just this

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isn't somebody flying off the handle, Joe started to speak
after a long stretch of time of this team not winning.
Those comments after the Cowboys game came with the team
five and eight, with their season hanging by a thread.
He has allowed them time to show that they can
let players get away and have a plan to replace

(52:44):
him that works. He gave three quarters of a season
to the team to show, you know what, without T Higgins,
here's what we can do elsewhere at wide receiver. I'm
gonna guess that if Jermaine Burton was what they hoped
he would be, which is a reliable player capable of
showing up on time, and catching passes. Then uh, I

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think Joe would not be speaking publicly about t Higgins
in the manner in which he is.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
But he is, and he's also doing in a very
well thought out way, and he's right.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Like I talked about this yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles had
really good wide receivers this past year. AJ Brown is
a very good wide receiver. Davonte Smith is a good
wide receiver. They have good skilled players. They signed a
running back in free agency. They have paid extended Jalen Hurts.
They've also been created financially and they've given themselves some

(53:38):
room in free agency. They've signed good free agents who
weren't the big headline guys back last March. And they've
been great with the draft. Like they were creative. They've
paid as many people as they could pay. They were
really good on the outside offensively. They were also really
good at drafting. What the Philadelphia Eagles did we talk

(53:59):
about a blueprint. The blueprint involved a lot of different
ways of acquiring players, keeping players, and paying players. So
it involved diving into the complexities of the salary cap
and different options available when it comes to signing bonuses
and restructuring money restructuring contracts. That's what Philadelphia did. Joe
said it will play the audio again on Pardon My take,

(54:21):
like once the Bengals to do it the way the
Eagles did it. The Eagles didn't go bargain basement at
wide receiver. They have two guys at the position who
are among the top eleven highest paid players at their
position in terms of total contract value. They gave Saquon
Barkley a really healthy contract in an era where running
backs have been talked about mattering less than they ever have.

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They extended Jalen Hurts and didn't do so for pennies
on the dollar either, and yet still found a way
to build a championship caliber team. I think many are
underestimating what Joe may do if he he doesn't get
his way and they don't win. You now you'll hear, oh,

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he's not that kind of person. What Wanting to win
and doing what you can to put yourself in a
better situation doesn't make you a bad person. Carson Palmer's
not a bad person. But the way Carson Palmer was
right thirteen years ago, fourteen years ago, nobody wanted to
say it. Now very few want to say it. Very
few wanted to say it fourteen years ago. He's right,

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he flexed his muscle to get out of a situation
that he felt he couldn't win it. Do I think
Joe will voluntarily leave dozens of millions of dollars on
the table like Carson Palmer did? Not necessarily? But do
we think he's just gonna shrug his shoulders and go ye, okay,
it didn't work, golly gee, Okay, next. I don't think

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the answer is yes. I don't think the answer is yes.
We are entering a very critical stage of this guy's career.
If he's if he's gonna be one of these qbs
that's judged as an all time great eight Let's let's
be honest. You're judged by championships plural. Yeah, you win
one to get yourself in the club. You're judged by

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championships per plural. Okay, well five years and he hasn't
won one yet, so you know, if he's gonna be
judged by championships plural? Does he really want to go
into years eight, nine, and ten of his career still
waiting for his first Probably? Not, Like there's there's some
pressure on the Bengals now and it's good. It's good
pressure to have, and it's a pressure that the quarterback

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is willing to take on. That's another part of this
do it my way and we can win. That is
Joe pointing the finger at himself as much as he's
pointing the finger at the front office and what they
haven't done in recent years. We are late twenty one
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Speaker 3 (57:58):
Bob, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Bob.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
How are you?

Speaker 13 (58:04):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (58:04):
How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (58:05):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Bob, I've never been better man? How about yourself? Hello?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Hello, Boby? There?

Speaker 9 (58:11):
Oh, very good, very good, very good. Monk going great
in the midst of a three game winning streak, which
is fabulous. Yes, let me uh, let me ask you well. Actually,
I had two questions for you. One, is Mick Cronin's
still brother working at Turfway Uh?

Speaker 4 (58:30):
To the best of my knowledge, No, but he is
here often handicap race handicapping races for Fatballguy Racing dot Com.

Speaker 9 (58:38):
All right. The second question, if you had to pick
a spot on UC's basketball team that you think maybe
they could use an additional hand, an additional guy in
thereat or as a starter or backup for the for

(58:59):
the starter. What position might that be?

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Center?

Speaker 15 (59:04):
Really?

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Yeah, post guy, a guy that you could throw to
throw it to on the block, A guy who you
could throw it to and have him score on somebody else.
Somebody who could offer more consistent, better rim protection. A
guy that on the pick and roll teams would fear
and not thrown.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
A guy that could perhaps even a guy that could
shoot three point field goals.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Well, I would take it, yes, but I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Everybody should find somebody like that.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Though it's true. I mean, but I mean, if you're
looking at it like positionally, sure would I would I
take a wing who could hit you know, forty two
percent of the outside shod. Sure, but I they were
really good on the glass last night, but even still
like Utah in the second half, they had a lot
of putbacks, a lot of second chance opportunities. They've gotten
their tails kicked on the glass often this season. I

(59:58):
think with the Z's on the floor offensively, they have
a hard time running pick and roll because teams will
let him catch it. You can't throw it to him
and expect him really to score on someone else. I
would like a really good and by the way, there's
only a handful of him, you might argue in college
basketball who are really really good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
But that's what I would like to have.

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
Hey, let me throw a name out there. Yeah, Biker Lotkin.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
You ever heard of him? I have, And he's having
a great year at Clemson. I'm very happy for him.
But you're being fair if you wonder, could could he
have done here in one more year what he's doing
in Clemson or did he need to go to Clemson
to have the success he is having? And how much
of that is a reflection on the current staff that
you see.

Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
To take a line from the famous movie Hoosiers, the
basketball goal is ten feet, yeah, and the free throw
line is fifteen feet? So could he do with that
in the gym at Cincinnati the same that he's doing
it in the gym in Columbia, South Carolina?

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Yeah? Maybe? Yeah, yeah maybe? And he has been awesome
at protecting the rim. I mean, he's I think he leads.
I believe he leads the ACC in blocks per game,
and I can be dead wrong about that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I would have to go and look that up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Look, he's he's he's always been a guy that when
he threw it to him, he had a good chance
of scoring. He shot over fifty percent here. But if
you watched the Bearcats last season, if you watched Victor
Lockin toward the end of last season, when you know,
remember after the West Virginia game on the road he
got benched. Was was there anybody banging on the table
for the Bearcats to bring back Victor Lockin.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
When we found out he was going to leave.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
I don't. I don't recall anybody losing their mind that
they were going to lose Big Vic. I think most
were happy to see him go, hopeful that he would
go have success wherever he went. But the guy that
I watched last season was not someone that you were
unhappy to see leave.

Speaker 9 (01:02:04):
Yeah, and you know what, I agree with that part.
The only thing that I would question, and believe me,
I'm not throwing anything at the current coach that UC
has because I hope the guy's there for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I think he's the right man.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
But if something like that happens, and you're right about
just showing complete lack of confidence down with stretching the guy,
I think he's got to take some of that blame.
On his own shoulders as well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Who Victor No, no, not the coach, but well yeah,
I mean, first of all, with a think. I mean,
let's not pretend that he's he's averaging fewer points a
game this year than he did his sophomore year at U.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
So I mean, it's not like he's turned into this
nineteen points a game score. He had a very good
game against Duke, which everybody saw, in a good game
the other night.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
He's been helpful to a Clemson team that is that
is okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
But and he's making outside shots, which is not something
you really wanted it to do him and wanted him
to do. Here, Look, players leave, man, you know the players.
If Dylan Mitchell ends up being an All Big twelve player,
is that going to be a poor reflection.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
On the staff at Texas?

Speaker 15 (01:03:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
No, I don't think though at all.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
If if Ericton Page ends up being a useful cog
at UC, is that going to be reflective of the
staff at USC.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
I'll take an Ericton Page picked or lockin parade right
now if you want to make that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Yeah, but I mean, like fine, right now you would.
But if you know, are we gonna do this every
time a player leaves. Now if there's like a repeated
pattern of like a whole bunch of guys leave and
then go on to be awesome elsewhere, and they were
no good with this staff. Okay, Vick is having a
nice season. It's not dramatically better than the season he
had two years ago. Here, certain coaches are not the

(01:04:02):
right fit for certain players. Nobody really was banging for
Vic to come back last season. I look at Vic's
success at Clemson as good for him, and it doesn't
necessarily have to be an indictment against the uh the
folks in Clifton, Bob, I always enjoyed talking to you.
I gotta run. Okay, well, thanks, uh Tera. Did you
tell me to break? Or do we have Brendan? We

(01:04:27):
have Brendan Okay, very good, the quarterback of the UC Bearcats,
Brendan Soresby. As we inch closer and closer to spring
ball joining us, We're not gonna break. We're gonna go
right to Brendan right now. Brendan Soresby, good afternoon, Thank
you so much for joining us. How are you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
I'm doing great? How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I am well?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
I appreciate you doing this. UH we Uh, it's been
nearly three months since since you played a game. Walk
us through what the offseason has been like so far.

Speaker 15 (01:05:01):
You know, obviously, the short story version of that would
be tough. It's been very hard, just you know, workouts,
obviously running a little bit majority lifting weights and running
right now, but mixing in a little bit of throwing
with the new receivers and our tight ends and running.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Backs and all those guys.

Speaker 15 (01:05:22):
So a little bit of football, a lot of a
lot of bit of working out right now. So that's
that's really the rundown.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I was talking with Scott Sadderfield two weeks ago and
we were discussing the players who have entered the joined
the program, entering the transfer portal, choosing to come to
the University of Cincinnati, and without any prompting, he talked
about your role in getting some of those guys to
come to UC.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I think specifically on the offensive side of the football.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
How would you describe your role in getting guys from
other programs to come play for the Bearcats?

Speaker 15 (01:05:55):
You know, I like to think that I bring, you know,
a good amount to the table. I think we're you know,
I've shown that I'll take shots down the field, and
you know, I think that we've just shown too as
well that you know, myself and the staff are are
very relatable people, and you know, the guys had fun
around us on the visit. Then you know that ended
up turning into commitments. But you know, just going out

(01:06:17):
to dinner with these guys and just spending time with
them and you know, just kind of tend it off
with them whenever they were on their visit, and you know,
I think that kind of solidified it, you know, for
our receivers, running backs, the linemen we have that we
got in and just all the new additions, even a
couple of defensive guys. You know, really just trying to
make connections with them on the visit and and just

(01:06:37):
let them know that we want and need them here.
And you know, we're we're building something special and you
know we're gonna we're gonna prove a lot of people wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Give me an idea of the things you talk about
with some of these guys when you make your pitch
to for them to come to the University of Cincinnati.

Speaker 15 (01:06:56):
You know, we we think that we were we were
in a ton of close games. I mean last year,
we don't we don't think that necessarily. We know that
we were in a ton of one score games and
and you know, we pitched that to them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
We weren't.

Speaker 15 (01:07:08):
We weren't as talented as we you know, as we
we felt like we should have been before the season,
and and yet we were still in these games. So
whenever we can add talent on top of the hard
work and the culture that we established, you know, we
think it's going to be pretty special. When you know,
the guys that were you know, on visits and and
obviously ended up deciding to come here, you know, trust

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that vision as well and decided to buy in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
UH a year ago at this time, you're new to
the program and getting used to the environment, getting used
to the to the coaching staff, getting used to a
whole new set of teammates. What's the comfort level like
a year later, now that you've been a part of
this program for a year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Night and day.

Speaker 15 (01:07:50):
You know, I was talking actually with with coach Thomas
the other day about it, our quarterback coach, just and
just the whole sense of like, you know, being the
I knowing everybody everybody around the facility. You can talk
to people from other sports as well, and just you
just feel a different level of comfort and I do
feel that, so I really can't even speak on it.

(01:08:12):
It's just night and day difference. And I'm just fired
up about you know, the group of guys that we've
brought in, the group of guys that we have coming back.
Just everything about it is is just night and day difference,
and I'm powered.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Up when when you go back and think of last year.
You know, the first half of the season, you guys
are five and two, and it felt like, boy, you guys,
you guys could contend for a Big twelve title, which
I know is the goal here. And offensively, you guys
were explosive and you had Joe Royer and everything Corey
Kinder could do. And then over the second half of

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the season, you'd be the first to admit things didn't
go the way you would like. When you when you
self scout, when you think about your role in particular,
what things come to mind, and based on what things
come to mind, what do you work on for this year?

Speaker 15 (01:09:01):
You know, just continue obviously to work on my accuracy,
work on my leadership more so than anything, I think.
I think there was times late in the year whenever
you know, I could have been a better leader, and
I could have got the guys back under control, especially
in those tight games where you need that leadership. I
think I lacked there really, just you know, just finding

(01:09:23):
ways to whenever, whenever we need those those in those
one score games where you need something to fall your way,
you really just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Got to take over.

Speaker 15 (01:09:29):
And I think that's one of my folks is going
in the next year, is you don't want to try
to do too much, but you also got to, you know,
at the end of the day, you got to take
matters into your other hands and try to go win games.
And I just don't think I did that last year.
I think I missed too many, too many throws in
the down the stretch of the games, and you know,
just too many too many mistakes on my end late

(01:09:50):
in the season. Obviously started off the season, you know,
taking care of the ball, and then late in the
year just not so much. So you know, obviously going
into this next season, just one work on my leadership,
which I have and I've improved already, and then to
my accuracy, and then just three final ways to take
care of the ball, which which you know I can

(01:10:12):
control through of those things and I'm doing so right
now and you know, just trying to continue to improve.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Yeah, you know, no matter I mean there were ups
and downs last year, it's still it's it's your first
season as the the starting quarterback, you know, from the
beginning of the season to the end. So no matter
how it goes, you're gonna learn a lot. And it
seems to me like you have now what that like
this coming season. Obviously we're all hoping for the best,
but it really does feel to me like you've taken

(01:10:39):
some time to look back on last year and apply
some of the lessons you've learned going through that, the
good and the bed to what comes up in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Five, for sure.

Speaker 15 (01:10:49):
Yeah, just you know, we want to take this We
want to take this thing in the Big Twelve Championship.
We want to win the Big Twelve Championship, and that's
the goal. So we have to attack each and every day,
you know, like that is our goal, and I think
we are.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
You know, I've heard players who were a part of
the program last year talk about, you know, how it ended,
and it left such a bad taste in everybody's mouth,
and so now everybody has a chip on their shoulder
the players.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Who come back.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Is it a challenge to get the guys who weren't
here last year to kind of adopt that same mentality
for this coming season.

Speaker 15 (01:11:23):
You know, usually you would think that it would be,
but the guys that we brought in have have instantly
bought in. I like to, you know, credit all the
guys that we had come back, you know, just obviously
a couple of big names or Corleone and Royer, but
even just the other guys that came back and decided
not to go anywhere else obviously, which in this day

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and age is always a possibility, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
You know, they decided to come back.

Speaker 15 (01:11:47):
And I think that we've established that culture from from
the previous season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
All these new.

Speaker 15 (01:11:52):
Guys come in and they immediately buy into it, and
they're enforcing it. And you know, we got guys calling
calling the leaders of last season's team out. So you know,
that's the that's the beauty of it, and that's what
you want from your teammates. That's what you want from
the new guys, the young guys, everybody. Complete program alignment
is what we always talk about, you know, from the
top down, you know, just staying on each other, holding

(01:12:14):
each other accountable and you know, upholding the standard.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
How exciting was it when you found out that Joe
Royer was coming back? And did you guys have conversations
about his options before he made the announcement.

Speaker 15 (01:12:28):
Yeah, you know, obviously he could have he could have
gone to the league, and you know, I thought, shoot,
he was the best tight in the country from from
obviously you know, his quarterbacks point of view. But he's, uh,
he's a dang good player. And I'm excited that he
came back. Obviously, you know, he's he's one of my
best friends here, so to hear that it wasn't only
just you know, the football side of things, but you know,

(01:12:49):
just hanging out with him off the field and just
spending time with him. Getting another year with him as.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Was huge news to me.

Speaker 15 (01:12:55):
But just fired up to have him back and he's
gonna be a huge help force again year.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Brendan Sorosby is with US back for another year, a
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you thought of you know, springball is going to get here,

(01:13:22):
and it's different because the portal then reopens, But have
you thought about you know, there are one or two
things I want us as an offense to accomplish during
the spring period.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I would just say to master our offense.

Speaker 15 (01:13:37):
I think obviously me personally last year, going throughout the spring,
I was just trying to learn the new system going
into the summer. In fall camp, obviously I felt like
I had it under my belt, but still not to
what I would have liked, you know, to have the
understanding of the offense. So going into this offseason, you know,
I know the offense like the back of my hand.

(01:13:58):
I just want us to at an offense take leaps
and bounds, you know, in the right direction. As far
as knowing what each other wants from each other, Like,
you know, I want to know what our new whiteouts want.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
I want to know how our running.

Speaker 15 (01:14:11):
Back like certain things. So really just messing out there
and having fun with it. I think if we can
go out there and you know, have a good spring
and stay connected and you know, grow closer throughout the
spring and you know, grow in an offense, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
We'll be in a great spot.

Speaker 15 (01:14:27):
But that's really just you know, I would say my
biggest goal for us is to just grow grow more
connected and grow in the offense.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
Yeah, you know, there are the spring practices and the
organized workouts that the coaches can designed, but you know,
you got to get out and do stuff on your own.
So how much work is it organizing throwing sessions with guys,
especially when you guys start to go do your own
thing during the heart of the offseason.

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
Yeah, it's a lot of that obviously right now, maybe
not so much because of this weather that we're having,
but you gotta find you gotta find ways. So you know,
we'll go down there and we'll just play a little
bit of catch in the weight room, you know, if
it's just you know, me and a couple of whiteouts,
but just trying to throw any time that we can
just on our own, outside of outside of the sanctioned stuff,

(01:15:17):
and you know, really just finding ways to get in
the extra work. But obviously, once this weather warms up
a little bit, it'll be a little bit easier and
you know, we'll be able to, uh, we'll be able
to get going on that. And but you know, I'm
just excited about the new group of guys that we
have a whiteout, especially you know Royer and Tony Johnson
coming back, which are two huge guys that we were

(01:15:38):
great for us last year and often. So it'll be fun,
you know, should make my life a little bit easier
having these guys out there for me. So I'm excited
for have.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
They Have you had a chance to go? I mean,
I know it's not done, but I mean, have you
have you walked through the new building yet?

Speaker 15 (01:15:54):
I actually have not walked through the new building yet.
I always mess around with Coach Dat because you know,
obviously the new recruiting pitch is obviously the new.

Speaker 8 (01:16:02):
Building that we have coming up.

Speaker 15 (01:16:03):
And every time I see Coach Stat walking and i'll
see a new recruit, I'm always like introducing myself and
they're like, hey, we just got done into the new facility,
and I'm always like, well, it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Must be nice.

Speaker 15 (01:16:12):
I still haven't been over there myself, but I'll be
over I'll be over there before too long, because I
keep giving people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Our dying about it. So it's probably my fault at.

Speaker 15 (01:16:20):
This point that I haven't been over there, but no,
it's it's definitely. Uh, it's definitely coming along though, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
It looks beautiful, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
It certainly does. I can't thank you enough for doing this.
Cannot wait for the season to begin. And there is
a lot to build on from last year. Obviously some
stuff you want to see go different, but I know
there's a lot of excitement for the guys who are
coming from other programs, and you mentioned Tony Johnson coming
back and Joe Royer coming back. It should be exciting,

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should be an exciting spring and hopefully a really exciting fall.

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Brennan, I can't thank you enough at the time.

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Thanks so much, Thank you very much.

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Here we kind of blew past sports headlines because Brendan
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but Brendan called on time. First of all, if you
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One is about what has been sort of a theme
of the off season, and that's the search for or
the hope for. I guess I should put it a quiet, peaceful,
normal off season and training camp. The question is should
the Bengals make decisions based on a desire to have

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a quiet and peaceful off season and training camp?

Speaker 9 (01:19:29):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I think that specifically is targeted a little bit more
at Trey Hendrickson than some of the other things, But
there are other things that could create a lot of noise.
And the other one is just a simple temperature check.
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Heartland Insurance, I with this Burrow and t Higgins and
Trey Hendrickson thing, I've I think it's mostly about t Now.
In recent weeks, Joe has folded Trey Hendrickson into the discussion.
Trey Hendrickson and t Higgins are not apples to apples.

(01:20:14):
Number One, Trey is an older player. It's gonna be
thirty one years old by the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Number Two, he is under contract for this coming season.
T Higgins is not. That could change if they franchise
tag him. But right now, Trey Hendrickson is under contract
to play for the Bengals, and so I would be
willing to bet that as much as Joe wants Trey,
that if they came to him and said we're gonna
get t done, We're not gonna get Trey done. But

(01:20:45):
he's still gonna play for the team this year. Joe
might not love it, but I think he will be
okay with what he has gotten that he wanted most,
which was the t Higgins we will see. The Trey
Hendrickson thing is fascinating from this perspective, and I'm certainly
not the first to only person to say this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
He's been awesome. He's maybe the greatest.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Fact, I'm not even sure it's maybe greatest free agent
acquisition the Bengals have ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
It's been everything you ever could have asked.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
For and more. He is under contract for this season,
so when you talk extension, you're talking about twenty twenty
six and twenty twenty seven. My guess is he is
gonna won a multi year contract extension. My guess is
he is gonna want pay raises. It's a it's a
fair question, and it's what you have to ask whenever
you have a player like this, is there going to

(01:21:38):
be a productivity dip during the course of the next contract.
Chances are the answers gonna be yes. If there's gonna
be a productivity dip, are you still gonna be okay
with him making more than he was before the productivity dipped? Basically,

(01:22:00):
he's not gonna be as good in a couple of years,
yet you're gonna be paying him more than you are
right now. There are a lot of teams that, just
as a general rule would say, we're not going to
enter deals like that. Right. We want to pay for
a player's best seasons, we want to play for a
play We want to pay for a player's prime years,
want to pay him when he is at his best,

(01:22:20):
and we're not that interested in paying him when he's
no longer at his best, especially if we're gonna have
to pay him more than we were paying when he
was at his best. That's worth asking about Trey Hendrickson.
Let's say, instead of seventeen and a half sacks in
twenty twenty six, he has eight, But they're paying him
more than he was getting when he was getting seventeen

(01:22:40):
and a half. Are you gonna be okay then with well, yeah,
but he's making up for money that he didn't make
back when he led the league in sacks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
My guess is the answer is going to be no.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
A couple of minutes away from five o'clock, we're at
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Continuing their in season makeover. FC Cincinnati has made it
official Luco Acosta has been dealt to FC Dallas, who,
by the way, will be here on May the twenty eighth.
So Luciano Acosta set to make his homecoming in Cincinnati
and May he had to sign off on the deal.
There are reports that the Orange and Blue is on

(01:25:04):
the verge of acquiring Evander, a striker who was an
MVP finalist last year a Major League Soccer. It's been
a chaotic last couple of weeks for FC Cincinnati, but
the headline today the twenty twenty three league MVP leaving
FC Cincinnati to go to Dallas. This a week or
so after the piece from Laurel Failure of Queen City

(01:25:26):
Press came out where he went scorched earth on Chris Albrey.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
So we've had that, We've had Jermaine Pratt's trade request.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
This According to Ian Rappaport of NFL Media, the Bengals linebacker,
who has been talked about as a possible cap casualty,
has reportedly asked the Bengals for a trade. We'll see
what materializes. If I'm running the Bengals, Jermaine Burton would
have been on that list of guys I could cut
to clear up cap space for. If I could trade

(01:26:01):
Jermaine Pratt and get something for him of value, I
ideally some sort of draft capital, well then awesome what
you would get for him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
He wasn't great last year. He's had his moments as
a Bengal that you obviously cannot deny. But you know,
when I think of Jermaine Pratt's twenty twenty four season,
I think of mistackles and I think of a defense
that you know, he was the captain of that defense.
I'm not sure that is a great statement about what
he brings to the table, but it is another Bengals

(01:26:35):
news item in what has been an off season filled
with them. It's been an off season filled with them,
mainly because of the stuff that Joe Burrow has had
to say. So last week we had his media Blitz
in New Orleans. He was a guest on Pardon My Take,
which I think this was taped. I don't know if
this was taped this week or last, it doesn't matter,
but he was on Pardon My Take, and I think

(01:26:58):
this is the best answer is given about what he
wants to see the Bengals do and how the Bengals
can do what he wants them to do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Taror go ahead and play that audio.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
I'm not going to ask if you're going to restructure
your deal. I'm gonna actually ask.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:27:16):
Restructuring a deal? Can you explain to us, like we're five?

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
Yeah, So you could do a couple of different things.
You could convert some of the money to a signing bonus,
which will lower the cap hit m hm. You can
push some of the money to the back end of
the contract, and then when you get to that lowers
the cap hit. And then when you get to the
back end of the contract you can restructure it and

(01:27:40):
convert it to a signing bonus.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Then you can also just take less money.

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
And which one were you going to do?

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
We'll see structuring you don't take any less money, right,
you just get you could.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
Okay, you could, but.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
Most of the guys just convert it to.

Speaker 8 (01:27:56):
To signing bonus. Is that you would do that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
I would do that?

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
Okay, Okay, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
It is a weird situation though, that you're in, because,
like I think that's just part of what happens with
quarterbacks where it's like there's a little more pressure on
them where they have the biggest deal, so they if
they want to get flexibility, a lot of times it
comes down to the quarterback to have to be the
guy who has to step up and do that.

Speaker 12 (01:28:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
At the same time, though, the.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
This was the last year that all the COVID like
cap money restrictions across the league were implemented. So the
next like three or four years, I think the CAP's
gonna just caps going up. The CAP's going out.

Speaker 8 (01:28:35):
Okay, we got to just keep saying caps going up.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
CAP's going to Higgins last year, it'll probably be similar.

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
You've definitely crunched, You've definitely like been laying in bed
late at night just looking at it like a sprench.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
You'd be like, okay, all right, GAP's going up.

Speaker 13 (01:28:49):
You understand the cap?

Speaker 6 (01:28:50):
I mean not really kind of because we.

Speaker 8 (01:28:52):
Don't think that it exists way more than we do.

Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
Well, definitely, some teams seem to make it feel that way.

Speaker 8 (01:28:59):
Yeah yeah, I have just pretended it doesn't exist for
a while.

Speaker 7 (01:29:03):
And the Eagles are paying everybody. Yeah yeah, so it
seems like the way whatever they're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
So there you go. That doesn't sound like someone who
hasn't given this a lot of thought, a lot of thought.
That doesn't sound like someone who's not wide open to
doing what he has to do with his contract to
make it work. That doesn't sound like a caller to

(01:29:32):
a postgame show or some unreasonable guy at a sports
bar just yelling and screaming the Bengals should pay everybody.
That sounds like somebody who understands that there's gonna have
to be some maneuvering in order for him to get
what he wants. That's not some petulant young child, you know,
throwing a temper tantrum angry or threatening to do something

(01:29:56):
if he doesn't get what he wants.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
It sounds like somebody who has given this lot of thought.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
Sounds like somebody who has at least a basic level
of understanding of how the process would would have to work.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
That sounds like somebody who has given this a lot
of thought.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
That also, to me sounds like somebody who if he
doesn't get his way and what happens next doesn't work,
isn't going to just shrug his shoulders. And I will
admit I've kind of recalibrated how I feel about this.
Joe Burrow has a lot on the line in the
coming years. Obviously, he's insanely wealthy. We understand that he

(01:30:35):
is set for life financially. Most of us can't even
wrap our brains around the kind of money that he makes.
This is a truly competitive guy. This is a truly
competitive guy who has five years in the league. He
obviously has a very bright future in front of him.
He is going to be one of the best quarterbacks
on the sport I think for a very long time.
Maybe he wants to play until he's forty forty five

(01:30:57):
years old, but he's played five years. He is going
to be twenty nine by the end of next season.
The clock is starting to tick as it relates to
his ability to win multiple championships. You know, let's face it,
a lot of the guys we measure him and other
qbs against when they have won they haven't taken forever.
They are only five quarterbacks in the history of the

(01:31:18):
league who won their first Super Bowl after they've played
eight seasons. Patrick Mahomes won almost instantly. Tom Brady, these
are the guys he wants to be compared to one
almost instantly, even if you go back aways. Ben Roethlisberger
won almost instantly. Peyton Manning did not win almost instantly,
and if you remember, by the time he did win one,

(01:31:39):
there was this growing narrative of like, when's he ever
gonna win one?

Speaker 12 (01:31:42):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Aaron Rodgers won not quite.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Instantly, but early in his tenure as a starting quarterback
year three with the Green Bay Packers. He's got a
lot on the line here. These guys are measured by
how they win. If he starts to win super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
If we're talking about a guy who's going to win
multiple Super Bowls, it's gonna have to happen here pretty soon.
It has to happen here pretty soon. So he's got
a lot on the line. He has also sat back
and watched the Bengals lose really good players and not
be able to replace him. He didn't start speaking publicly
until it became abundantly clear that this season was really

(01:32:19):
going nowhere until they had solidified themselves as one of
the league's biggest disappointments. This isn't someone just flying off
the handle. This isn't someone just speaking just for the
sake of hearing themselves speak. This isn't someone with an
uneducated understanding or or poorly thought out a view of
how the league works, of how the salary cap works,

(01:32:42):
of the things that would have to happen in order
for him to get his way. So you might think
Joe Burrow will never ask for a trade, and you
might think he'll never put a gun to the Bengals head.
And you might think he'll never do a Carson Palmer,
and you might think about, hell, he'll never rock the boat. Sure,
because I'm gonna guess a year ago, at this time,
there are a whole lot of people who imagine Joe

(01:33:03):
Burrow going on a like a national media tour, essentially
putting a gun to the Bengals head. Do this now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
What we don't know is with this year, if they
don't do it his way, is their way going to work?
I don't know. Do you want to find out, Like if.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
You're married to the idea of Joe Burrow playing his
entire career in Cincinnati, or if you're married to the
idea of Joe Burrow and the Bengals having this long,
peaceful coexistence that never gets disrupted. Do you really want
to try him? You really want to test your belief
if you believe there's no way he'll pull a Carson. Look,

(01:33:44):
he's got years left on his contract with Cincinnati, and
he might be unwilling to walk away from the sort
of money that Carson Palmer was willing to walk away from.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
But do you want to test him?

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
This player who this season was clearly dissatisfied with the roster,
the season, the way the season went at times, with himself,
at times, maybe with teammates or coaches. We we broke
down in great detail a lot of his public unhappiness
after the Raiders game, during the Titans game, at so

(01:34:14):
many stages during the season.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Do you do you want to test him? Do you
do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
You do you really wanna want to see what would
happen if if next year, uh, they're not doing it
Joe's way, they don't win, and Joe has a great season.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
What do you think, what do you think happens? Then
I don't know. I'd rather not find out.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
I'd rather this isn't him wanting to hand people blank checks,
that this isn't him screaming and yelling that the Bengals
should do something that they're not capable of doing. I
brought this up yesterday the Philadelphia Eagles. Ben Baby of
ESPN has a really good piece on this as well
that came out leading up to the Super Bowl about

(01:35:00):
what they have done in the draft, what they have
done with their wide receivers, what they have done with
some of their skill guys, what they have done with
their most highly paid players. It might not guarantee that
you achieve the same level of success, but there is
a blueprint for how you can build a roster like
the way the Philadelphia Eagles built their rosters. Certainly, again,

(01:35:23):
does not guarantee that you're going to have the same
amount of success that the Eagles had, that you're going
to win a championship, But if you look at how
they went about doing things, drafting well, using free agency
as a tool to get good players, cheap labor in
this league has never mattered more, right, because we see
now guaranteed money to quarterbacks. We've seen what wide receivers

(01:35:45):
are getting. We've seen salaries for the upper class players skyrocket.
And we also know the impact that rookies are expected
to make, and guys within the first few years of
their rookie deals what they're expected to make. The middle
class player is getting squeezed out. Cheap labor in this
league has never mattered more. The Eagles did well with
cheap labor Zach Bond, Mackai Beckdon, a handful of others. Obviously,

(01:36:09):
they are draft choices. Top two picks this year were
a defensive Rookie of the Year finalists, like cheap labor.
So there's the blueprint Joe Burrow just outlined for you.
Here's kind of a loose outline for how it gets done.
Here's what I might have to do. He is I've
never seen an athlete do this. But at the end

(01:36:31):
of this long drawn out stretch where Joe has made
it known what he wants, that came after that stretch
of him being obviously publicly upset with the team and
the way the season was going. Do you really want
to test him? Do you really want to test him
when your way of doing things with the roster the
last couple of years hasn't worked. I don't I don't

(01:36:56):
think we want to be sitting here a year from
now going God, they didn't give Joe what he wants
and they went nine to eight and they were on
the outside looking in again, and now what I don't
think we want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
That doesn't mean he's going to demand a trade. I
don't know that he won't.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Does it mean that he's not going to rock the boat?

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
We want to find out. So I'm of the belief
let's do it his way. I'm of the belief let's
do it his way. As it relates to t Higgins,
the Trey Hendrickson thing is I think a little bit
of a different issue. I think we've made it sound
like you can't ask Trey Hendrickson to play out his contract,
because I think he can. They just did it with

(01:37:38):
T Higgins and they got a good year from t Higgins.
I think the Trey conversation is a little bit different.
But again, Joe Burrow has been talking a lot more
about t Higgins than he has Trey Hendrickson. Nineteen minutes
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Nine degrees? So if it's ten degrees, we're out there.
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Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
One of the crown jewels of early spring here in
the greater Cincinnati area is coming up in late March.

Speaker 14 (01:39:45):
Jeff Ruby Steaks is coming up Saturday, March twenty second.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Right, this is a big deal.

Speaker 14 (01:39:49):
Yeah, Derby qualifying race, right, huge?

Speaker 8 (01:39:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
All right, And it's and it's about it's it's about
the horse race itself, right, it's about horse racing, but
there's so much more going on that day.

Speaker 14 (01:39:58):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's an I felt like I wasn't
even working the day that I was here. It's my
first first time here last year, only been here a year,
and it was honestly just an awesome atmosphere. They've got
the general Missionaries, had this big tent with live music
going on, you know, food and drinks out there, and
then inside they've got the VIP ticket package, so you
get to sit in and have like a Jeffry Vey
staked in pretty good, enjoy the atmosphere.

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Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
The first time I ever went to the event, I
never saw.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Horse really Yeah, Okay, Yeah.

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Which says two things. Number one a lot going on.
Number two might give you a clue as to how
I behaved that Yeah, never saw a horse.

Speaker 14 (01:40:33):
But honestly, you know, knowing less about it's almost more
fun in a way sometimes because, like you know, for me,
I'm a novice myself when it came to it, and
you just kind of get to come in and enjoy
the atmosphere.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
I think that's why our show has been so successful.
I'm talking about something I know nothing about. Yeah, I'm
lying about that. So it's March twenty second, right, And
you mentioned the music and the tents and everything. It's
also like, I think there are folks who don't understand
this is one of the This is one of the
run up races to the Run for the Roses, a

(01:41:04):
huge deal.

Speaker 14 (01:41:05):
Yeah, which is awesome. Like again, it's a Derby qualifying race,
So whoever wins the Jeffruby Steaks will be racing at
the Kentucky Derby's a huge opportunity for right, every horse involved.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Yeah, so that's gonna be March twenty second, Yes, sir,
that's that's a big deal. And then you know a
lot kind of going on around here in the in
the run up to it. I was here for an
NCAA tournament Saturday last year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Oh really, Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
You can't beat it, Yeah, got all the games, got
the betting kiosks, have a cold beer, can't beat it, yep.

Speaker 14 (01:41:33):
And we've got the huge TV here in bourbonham Brew
right for your main game. So it's just it's an
awesome atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
It is an awesome atmosphere. I was I was here
to watch Kentucky.

Speaker 14 (01:41:42):
Gotta play and they played great last night.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Well, it played great last did not play so well
the tournament two years ago before you could wager here
that wasn't so fun.

Speaker 14 (01:41:51):
That wasn't a fun one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
So fun. Give us an idea of some of the
other events happening here.

Speaker 14 (01:41:56):
So one of our big ones actually coming up this
coming weekend is the seven hundred every seven minutes, So
we give away seven hundred dollars free play every seven minutes.
Really yeah, And that's partnered with our passport promotion that
we're doing. We're traveling around the world. Is our around
the World's our theme here at Turfway Park for marketing
this coming year, and you come in and you get
a passport and you can get it stamped and it's

(01:42:17):
a chance to win a trip for two at the
end of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
So really yeah, So seven hundred dollars every seven minutes
in free play and that's incredible. Yeah, that's that's pretty cool.

Speaker 14 (01:42:27):
What else we also have in March, we're giving away
a boat, so that'd be really yep, giving away a
twenty twenty five bay Liner M nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Okay, yeah, I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 8 (01:42:39):
Need to do so how do I win a boat?

Speaker 14 (01:42:41):
So you'll any of our big progressive drawings like that.
You have opportunities to earn entries all through the month
by using your Player's card, which is another big one.
We've got fifty dollars in free play every time you
come in and sign up for a player's card. So
any anyone who's new to Turfway Park, if they come
in and get their players Card, which is totally free,
the'll get fifty dollars in free play. And then that
you use that, it's kind of like you're kind of

(01:43:03):
your Turfway ID I guess in a way, it's it
contracts your play and you can use that to capitalize
on promotions, food comps, you know, anything like that that
you can get here at turf Way.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
If I win a boat, I have to bring a
trailer with me.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
How does that work?

Speaker 14 (01:43:16):
You have your tow it right off the game, just
hauling out here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
It's pretty good, exactly. It'd be nice to bring home
to the missus, right, Hey, so what to turfoy I
don't want to boat.

Speaker 14 (01:43:24):
You're not gonna believe I won tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
That'd be that'd be pretty nice. When does when does
that happen.

Speaker 14 (01:43:28):
That is, I believe March twenty eighth from wowcheck here, very.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Goodness, right after a baseball opening day. Yeah, that's that's
pretty good opening day.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
As you look outside, it doesn't feel like baseball weather,
but you know it'll be here. It'll be here before
you know it. By the way, let me just quickly,
am I because I've been told you're a Steelers fan?

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:43:49):
They did tell you that. We were allowed to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Well, I didn't know if I was speaking too quickly.

Speaker 14 (01:43:53):
Okay, we can talk.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Typically, you have to slow down a little bit, use
words with only one or two syllables.

Speaker 14 (01:43:58):
Yeah, whoa like that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
What happened? Why? Why are you from Pittsburgh?

Speaker 14 (01:44:03):
Well, my dad raised me really well and ended up
being a Steelers fan.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
So you're because your dad made to be a Steelers fan.
You had to be a Steelers fan.

Speaker 14 (01:44:11):
Yeah, but well you know growing up, yeah, I rooted
for the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:44:15):
Once I got old enough to understand football, I was like, well,
why wouldn't you want to be a Steelers fan? And
kind of went from what.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Was wrong with your dad?

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Nothing?

Speaker 14 (01:44:24):
I think he's a great guy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
Yeah, okay, and so and so you. I mean, this
year they were really good and then kind of fell apart.

Speaker 14 (01:44:31):
But they were really good until they played good football teams.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
I'm willing to admit that part kind of fell apart.

Speaker 14 (01:44:35):
Yeah, you know, if we're going to get into that,
I mean, I think just the quarterback situation is something
that needs to be addressed in Pittsburgh. And I'm personally
I'm not pro Russell Wilson. I wasn't when they put
him in. I know he looked good in the first
couple of games, but I just felt like, why not
give Justin Fields a full year just to see what
he looks like, you know, just I felt like there

(01:44:56):
was a lot of on tap potential there. But you know,
that's Tomlin's choice. And I actually can't stand the criticism
of Mike Tomlin. That really is from kind of the
Pittsburgh media up there. They're hard on them, they are
hard on it, and I understand the expectation in Pittsburgh,
but I also think if you look at you know,
I know part of it falls on the coach, but
just our offensive line all the way back to Roethlisberger's
last year has been really.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Not just not good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, he's never had a losing season.

Speaker 14 (01:45:21):
I know, we hear about that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
We make fun of that trope all the time.

Speaker 14 (01:45:25):
I know, I know that's the joke. A playoff win
would be really nice to go with the non losing season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
It's been a while now. It's been a while now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
They obviously didn't ask you that on your Your Job interview.

Speaker 14 (01:45:36):
No, that didn't come up till later, and it took
a while for everyone to warm up to it. But
I'll be honest with you, Like, even as a Steelers
fan around here, like the atmospheres for Bengals games, it's
a it is awesome, and yeah, it's really hard not
to like Joe Burrow. I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
You know, I've I've heard Steelers fans say the same thing. Yeah,
you know, like, man, I'm supposed to hate this guy,
but it's it's hard for me.

Speaker 14 (01:45:56):
You know, when you watch him towards your defense so
many times, it's like, Okay, sure, I can see why.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
I felt the opposite about Ben Roethlisberger all those years
because I'm a UC and it was on Miami Bearcats
and with the Steelers towards the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
I found myself liking him less and less.

Speaker 14 (01:46:12):
That's fair, that's fair, very good. It was fun to
watch Ben And you know, I loved his his grife
with Cleveland because they didn't draft them, so he took
that personally.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 14 (01:46:22):
Twenty six three and one against the brownsment.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Worked out pretty well for him and not so well
for the for the Browns. Well, very good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Is there anything anything else?

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
It's funny because I told somebody today I was coming
out here, and they go, you're gonna do your your
show from a racetrack, and I go, well, you know, no,
I'll be inside, but I'll be inside this, you know,
really cool bar and restaurant area. I came up here
for live music because we still, yeah, we.

Speaker 14 (01:46:45):
Have live music every Friday's a different tribute band. Sometimes
it's a local band. Just depends on who's here. But
it's always an awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
I watched these these two. It was dueling pianos, these two.

Speaker 14 (01:46:54):
Yeah, that was awesome, wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:46:55):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:46:56):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
It was really good.

Speaker 14 (01:46:57):
Something unique I was.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
I was hoping I'd be allowed to sing, but that's.

Speaker 14 (01:47:02):
I think we are doing some type of karaoke coming up?
Oh really yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
If there's a Well, there's a colleague of mine who's
here tonight and she excels at karaoke. Really yeah, Marcia Capele, Uh,
I've I've I've got.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Video, really yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
Enters contests around the Tri State area, and so karaoke
everybody else is competing for second place.

Speaker 14 (01:47:29):
All right, Well, good to know. Yeah I would be
second place. I need a few beverages, want to be
karaoke you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Know, gotcha? So okay, I'm not going to sing that
Steelers here. No, I was thinking it's stuff thrown at you.

Speaker 14 (01:47:41):
Yeah, what's worst? The only one worst, and that's that
who day chance that they.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Do that's the best. That's the best. All right. The
twenty second the crown jewel of the horse racing season
here at Turfway Park, racing the game in the Jeff
Ruby Stakes. Are there is there somewhere people should go
if they want to get VIP treatment that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (01:47:59):
So there's take Masters where all of our tickets are
sold through. So you can either look up the twenty
twenty five Jefferby Stakes online or they can go to
Turfway Park dot Com our website and it'll be under racing.
It's also on our home page and that'll take you
through like each ticket package option and then you just
buy them on Ticketmaster.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Perfect. All right, twenty second of March, it's uh and
that's the first Saturday of the NCAA tournament. So you
could come in here, watch the games, go out there
for racing.

Speaker 14 (01:48:24):
And enjoy your bet on the games, bet on the horses,
and make a whole day itself a nice day.

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
It's it's been fun to meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Yeah, same to you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
My producers thrilled. We had another bowling green guy on
the show. Yep, he's a bowling green of Falcons. Yeah,
there you go. Falcons played the Bearcats this year. Really football.
Yeah good, I've been looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
That's going to be exciting.

Speaker 14 (01:48:42):
Yeah, but BGI had a they were pretty close. I
don't know if anyone watched, but they almost beat Penn
State last year up in Happy Valley. That was That
was a pretty good game. And Harold Fanning Junior should
be a second or first round draft pick.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
Yeah. There, tight end so so well, it'll be a
competitive game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
You're taking the place of more. We don't play Miami anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
So we played bowling, gotcha.

Speaker 14 (01:49:00):
Well we'll take the max sub in.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
That's cool.

Speaker 9 (01:49:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Fine, it's good to have you.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Thank you for having us here. This has been a blast. Yeah,
and well we'll come back soon hopefully you have us
all right, So there you go. Thomas Thomas Ziggler marketing coordinator. Coordinator, Yeah,
coordinator not marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Is there is there somebody above director?

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:49:20):
That would be our GM GM Matt Map Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Math He owes me lunch because Maama Monter beat his
in basketball, Dayton beat UNLV.

Speaker 14 (01:49:29):
Okay, here's the guy, got Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Yeah, you didn't know that. I probably I probably shouldn't
have where your boss went to tough?

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
I you just stick with me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
I'll teach. I'll teach everything you need to know, all right,
Thomas Ziggler from a Turfway Park marketing coordinator, Thank you
so much for having us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
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Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
And we'll talk about the Bearcats and the Muskies next
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Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
This report is quickly sports headlines of service of Kelsey
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that according to NFL Media's Ian Rappaport, Lucho Acosta has
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they'll be here on May twenty eighth. That'll be a
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acquiring striker Evander that he goes by Evander. I'm telling
you every article I have read of not a Vander
his full name Evander. He was an MVP finalist last
year playing for the Portland Timbers College Troops Tonight, Xavier

(01:51:12):
at Providence games at eight on seven hundred Wow, Ohio
State battles Washington Dayton's at fordham OSU hires Matt Patricia
to be the new defensive coordinator, replacing Jim Knowles, and
the Cyclones play tonight at Iowa Bearcats win last night.
Scott Springer Cincinnati dot Com with us earlier today. We
talked about what has been a pretty remarkable offensive turnaround

(01:51:35):
in less than two weeks.

Speaker 10 (01:51:38):
Well, and he doesn't want to talk about the dodgeball,
but you know, I kind of knew about it. I
talked with Terry Nelson before the game and I did
a little video and I said, you see lightened it up.
I didn't mention dogball because my fear was, Okay, if
I say dodgeball and you see a plaster them clasters them,
then everyone's mad at me because I brought up dodgeball.
So I try to keep the piece as I can.

(01:52:00):
And then Wes brought it up on the postgame show.
So yeah, this is the season right now. With patches
of Hulahan and Bob Huggins at UCF getting the boys gone.
And you know what, Wes made a great point though.
All he did was he took him down to the
practice gym, kind of the dungeon down there, and they
let him down there on the Monday after the West

(01:52:20):
Virginia game, and the guys all thought, well, this is
going to be a torturist practice and we're going to
go up and down. And then they got out the dodgeballs,
and the staff and the coaches played and they were
like kids. And so he's been able to get that
in their heads. Play like kids, you know, play care
free and loose. I like Day Day Thomas starting. I
thought that the team has always ran a little bit

(01:52:42):
better with him to make it crazy on some plays,
but it'll do some plays that are just you know.
And even Craig Smith, the Utah coach, last night, he said,
they have better playmakers. You know, we don't have a
Day Day Thomas or or Agisel James that can come
down and do what they do well.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
And if you would have told me that they're going
to turn this season around, I would have said, those
two guys have to be involved, right. It's hard to
imagine this thing getting set straight without those two guys
playing better. I don't think I had Josh Reed in
consecutive games making the plays he's made on my bingo guard.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Well, no, I mean who did. Let's face it.

Speaker 10 (01:53:20):
Early in the season, if you saw number ten came
in and you're a fan, you're probably.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Going, why is he putting him in? Why does he
keep putting him in?

Speaker 10 (01:53:26):
And I'll give you a very dated reference because I'm
good at those, but a very dated baseball reference. You
remember Corey Patterson that played for the Red Yeah, and
Dussy Becker would continually play him and everyone said, why
is he putting him in all the time?

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Is that his son?

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
What's up with that?

Speaker 10 (01:53:43):
But Josh Reid has surpassed Corey Patterson and Josh Reid
is a major contributor, and you know, you have to
believe West now. It's like this is what they've been seeing.
So maybe this is all he needed was a bunch
of confidence. But you know, he comes in and he
wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Be there, and he gives you the effort. Same with
Ravon Griffith.

Speaker 10 (01:54:02):
Just miniscule moments, but he really wants to be a bearcat,
and that's who you need on the floor. The guys
that are hungry and the guys that aren't hungry are
going to have to sit and wait until they decide
they're hungry.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
Yet they've transformed themselves offensively. It feels like it's come
at the expense a little bit of what they do
on the defensive side of the floor. So I guess
what I'm wondering is, maybe specifically on Saturday, are are
they going to be able to get stops when the
shots don't fall?

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Well, they're going to need to.

Speaker 10 (01:54:34):
Let's face it, this is a massive undertaking Saturday. I
always say it is extremely good the players back. I'm
gonna butcher his name, so mam Silovich maybe something like that.
You know, I'm talking about good three point shooter. But
they were not the same without him. They were three
and four without him, and they had, you know, a

(01:54:55):
major losing streak. So he's back, and they beat U
down there. Well you know U c F beat or
ucv U seef down there. So the problem is Hilton Coliseum.
They won all their games there last year eighteen and
the streak was at twenty nine until Kansas State stopped
them earlier this year, and everyone said, well that's the

(01:55:19):
major upset well, maybe not, because Kansas State's now playing
like the Kansas State that they thought that they bought.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
And that's not a slam at them, but they spent
a lot of money on.

Speaker 10 (01:55:29):
That team, and that when I was there with UC
and they lost to Kansas State, the complaint was, well,
the Wildcats, you know, they've had all this money and
they're not getting much. Well, the Wildcats looked good that night,
beat UC by three, and now the Wildcats are looking
pretty good and knocking people off. You know, beating Arizona's
a pretty good win. So you know, if you want
to talk about a good loss, I don't believe that.

(01:55:51):
But but Kansas State is better now than they were.
And you know, Kansas State went in and bet Iowa State,
so to beat them at Hilton Coliseum, I mean that
was a twenty nine game win streak I think overall
over two seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
It was snapped.

Speaker 10 (01:56:07):
And then they're back and they've got one of their
better players back. So the odds are big time against
the Bearcats. But you know, if you can go back
to the dodgeball thinking, it's like, okay, they got five guys,
we got five guys, and here's a ball that let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
And if you can think like that, these.

Speaker 10 (01:56:24):
Guys have all played top level AAU games. If they
can get that in their head, maybe they have a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
Good stuff from Scott Springer from the Cincinnati Inquirer and
Cincinnati dot Com. More of that conversation to be available
here soon on the iHeartRadio app. Bearcat's getting set for
Iowa State on Saturday. Xavier getting set for Providence tonight.
Musketeers second consecutive road game coming off of their loss
on Sunday to Villanova. I asked Rickbrowing Musketeer Report dot
Com if the Musketeers bubble has burst, well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I think having control of their own destiny burst. You know,
they win out the rest of the way, and then
with a weak bubble and things go their way and
limited big thiefs in the conference tournaments go the right way.
Could they still get in that large bid? Potentially?

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
But if they had won that game at Villanova, given
them another quad one win, and who knows, Creighton's sitting
there right at thirty two in the net, Yukon's right
at thirty one in the net, so maybe you'd have
a couple more quad one wins there. Your resume could
have all of a sudden looked pretty good and maybe
even have been good enough to avoid Dayton, and you

(01:57:34):
felt like you were really in control the rest of
the way. Now you're gonna need some help. And so
the other part of it is this team winning seven
straight games in the Big East. Given their biggest winning
streaks so far in conference play is three games, and
that was the only time that they've won consecutive games
so far this season in conference play, it just seems
like a big ask.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Seemed like a big ass, especially when you're two and
seven on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
I mean, that's the thing. I mean, it all signs
like as much as we could start talking about the
resume and what it's going to take to get in,
the bigger question is like, why do we think this
team can win seven straight games. Yes, it's a weaker
Big East set up for them. They had most of
their really difficult games in the first half of the
conference season, but as you mentioned, they've still got to

(01:58:21):
go on the road three more times than you know,
at Providence, at seedon Hall, and at Butler. None of
those are guarantees for this team, so it's going to
be a difficult Hall especially when you still have a
Creton coming to the Centus Center as well.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
Uh, what about Providence can bother them tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Well, I'm really interested in seeing what both teams look like.

Speaker 8 (01:58:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
Providence is a team that has probably three of their
best players out right now, and one of them in
Wesley Cardett, transferred from Chicago State. Their head coach, Kim English,
seems exasperated with his situation. It seems like that there's
a lot of that going around right now across the
country with guys who have been maybe cleared to play,
or it's ambiguous about whether they're cleared to play or not,

(01:59:04):
and the head coach doesn't even seem to know the situation.
So there seems to be a bit of that going
on at Providence right now. Plus they've clearly already played
their way out of anything meaningful this season, so I
don't know where their head space is at. And then
it'll be fascinating to see first Xavier coming off the
Villanova loss and now feeling like, okay, it's a pretty

(01:59:24):
outside remote possibility that they get in that large bid. Now,
where's their head's going to be at? Our guys starting
to think about how's it going for me? And where
am I going in the transfer portal after the season
is over?

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
And what's next door?

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Are they going to band together and think, hey, there's
still an outside chance, let's finish this thing off right.
If they do the ladder, then I think this is
a decent matchup for them. Providence doesn't have much of
an inside presence. They rely on their three point shooting
on the perimeter, and that's something that over the last
month Xavier's actually done a pretty good job of defending.
So I think Xavier can match up pretty well with Providence.

(01:59:59):
But playing on the road at the Amp is never easy.

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
Are you gonna get flooded with a bunch of complaints
tonight that the game is on Peacock?

Speaker 16 (02:00:08):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Probably. But I'm just a point where, like I really
don't even check social media notifications at this point. I
kind of just like put my thumb out there and
let it go.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
Yeah, we're we're, we're on the same page. I do
know this that you know, as a UC fan, and
the games are kind of all over the place that
I have found that no matter what television outlet the
game is on, people are unhappy, Like the game could
be on all four major broadcast networks at the same time,
and you would still find somebody with a gripe. So, uh,

(02:00:40):
maybe just talk No, no, you're you're right about that.
So I had Darren Horne on the show last Friday,
and you know it even said to him like, it
feels kind of like your team is turning the corner.
And then they lost their homecoming game. What happened against
Robert Morris.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Yeah, I think that was a disheartening loss for NKU fans.
And for a lot of the game, you know, I'd
say probably thirty plus minutes of it, I thought, NK,
you played really well, at least on the offensive. Then
they and that was my biggest concern about this team
is where is the offensive firepower? Do they have enough
to even win games against good teams? And initially they

(02:01:22):
looked like they did in that game. They were running
and gunning, but then the final several minutes they just
quit scoring completely, and really throughout the game they struggled
defensively to guard Robert Morris. They're big man Alberto Fulgaris,
who has been one of the most promising.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
Pieces this year as.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
A sophomore in the conference. He's really developed from his
freshman season. He had a huge game so against NKU
went for over thirty points. So, I mean, you know,
the defense never showed up in that game, and I
think that was the most frustrating part for Darren Horn
and probably the NKU fans watching. But I would also say,

(02:02:00):
like if NKU score seventy six points, they're gonna win
a lot of games in the Horizon League. So I
feel pretty confident that Darren Horden this staff will get
the defense back on track. They need to continue scoring
like they did in that game.

Speaker 4 (02:02:13):
More from Rick if you want it available on the
iHeartRadio app Xavier on the Road against Providence tonight. That
game will tip off at eight pm on seven hundred WLW.
And don't forget Rick has the call of NKU versus
Green Bay in Green Bay. That's a great way to
spend your Valentine's Night. On Friday night Valentine's Day, you

(02:02:33):
and your significant other get together and you listen to
Jim Kelch and Rick Browing call a college basketball game
between NKU and Green Bay seven o'clock on Friday evening.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Pregame at six thirty.

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
Right here on ESPN fifteen thirty We are pretty much
done here at Turfway Park racing and gaming. I cannot
thank the folks who work here enough for having us
being so hospitable. By the way, the sandwich I have
that is one of the top three or four sandwiches
I've ever had in my life. This really is an
awesome place. What they've done with this facility is terrific.

(02:03:07):
It's cool for live music, it's cool for watching sports,
it's obviously great for racing.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
So get on out of here and check out what
they've done if you haven't been.

Speaker 4 (02:03:15):
Here in a while.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
We are back in studio tomorrow at three oh five.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
I want to thank Mike Mills for producing us on
site and my guy Tern for producing us back in Kenwood.
Enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank you for listening.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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