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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Covers the Bengals right like ESPN in fifteen to thirty
Cincinnati's sports this this is going to be thank you
five O five ESPN fifteen thirty. This is going to
be a very busy hour because there's lots going on.
Xavier loses in the Big East Tournament to Marquette. Really
good game they waste, i'll say spoil, a terrific Ryan
(00:22):
Conwell performance, eighty nine to eighty seven. The final score.
The Muskies very much on the bubble. Sean Miller is
going to talk here in a few minutes. We'll have
that for you. Our buddy, Paul Frischner's at Madison Square Garden.
He is winding down interviews and then we're gonna chat
with him at five twenty. The NKY bracket guy's going
to join us at five thirty five, So I'll have
(00:42):
the college basketball covered. By the way, if you're wondering,
Miami is playing right now in the MAC Tournament. The
RedHawks tied at twenty four, five and a half to
go in the first half in that one in Cleveland.
Not a lot of Bengals news today. That has been
the theme of the week. Unfortunately, in activity, they haven't
addressed their major needs. Samajp Ryan is back. We played
some of that audio for you. I got to give
(01:03):
some backstory here. I'm really excited. I'm really excited that
we're about to do this. So earlier today, Diana Russini
of The Athletic reported something about Trey Hendrickson and it's this,
and I'm pulling up the tweets as we speak. She
tweeted that teams are willing to pay Trey Hendrickson the
(01:24):
contract that he is looking for, which clearly, for better
or for worse, the Bengals are not. So he has
found a suitor, he has found a taker. But according
to Diana, she cites an NFL GM who calls the
bengals current asking price quote ridiculous, and she adds to it,
the Bengals can adjust as the offseason progresses, but right
(01:46):
now teams aren't willing to meet their terms. So I
saw this this morning and as having a cup of
coffee sitting on my kitchen table, and I saw it,
retweeted it, and my take was good, The price should
be ridiculous because Trey Hendrickson is a terrific player. Now
(02:06):
the Bengals value him and they won him on the
team in twenty twenty five. Obviously they have balked the
idea that they're going to pay him thirty thirty two
to thirty four million dollars. I have thought all along,
the Bengals have handled this well, give Trey a chance
to go and see if there's another team out there
that will pay him, and if he does, see if
that team sends something to Cincinnati that the Bengals agree on,
(02:28):
and if that works out and the Bengals make the trade,
then we can assess it on its merits and wonder
are the Bengals in twenty twenty five better off with
what they get for Trey Hendrickson or with Trey Hendrickson.
That's going to be a fair question if it comes
to that, in the absence of Trey finding a contract elsewhere,
well maybe he comes back at a diminished negotiating position
(02:51):
and the Bengals get a deal done, or worst case,
he plays for the team this year and he's highly motivated.
But of course, in my opinion, they should be asking
for a lot for Trey Hendrickson because you're giving up
a player who you need right now. They have nobody
else who can get after the quarterback, and they want
to try to win the whole thing this year. So
say what you want about all the other stuff the
(03:11):
Bengals have mismanaged. They're right for being ridiculous here in
my opinion. So I expressed that on social media on Twitter. Now,
I think, you know, I don't have a Twitter policy.
Like I hear people talking about their Twitter policy. I
think that's really sort of stupid. But like, I don't
really block people. I've blocked probably a dozen people in
(03:35):
sixteen years. I just unless you're just a huge a hole,
if it's homophobia, if it's racism, if it's I just
you're blocked. But don't I don't get a lot of that.
So I don't block a lot of people. I have
had less interest over the years in interacting with folks
(03:58):
who tell you nothing about themselves. And like one of
my goals this year is like I'm gonna spend less
time communicating with folks on social media who are just
they They don't tell you anything about them. Now, look,
if you want to be anonymous and that's your thing,
that's cool. I just I like knowing something about you
doesn't mean your opinion's not valid. It doesn't mean I
don't look at it. I just if we're gonna, if
(04:20):
we're gonna do this, like give me something. So I'm
I'm scrolling through and I see a tweet from a
woman by the name of Amy, and I hope I'm
not butchering this Amy robery. And uh, you know that's
it's not like it's uh, I don't know Bengal Amy
(04:41):
twenty nine sixty two forty five. You know, like Amy,
bunch of numbers that there's a picture of her. It's
a nice picture. Uh. And and so it, you know,
looks like the sort of person that is either a
finely crafted bot or someone who you know is gonna
tell you a little bit about themselves. So this is
the tweet she sent me, A little bit mean. This
is the tweet she sent me. She wrote, how are
(05:04):
you helping be a reliable media representative for the city
of Cincinnati? Truly? Do you represent the team directly? You
should represent the people Constantly. Having the back of the
worst run and cheapest franchise in the league is one
way to turn off fans. And I wrote, I quote
tweeted it. I wrote, I appreciate you following me I'm
sure you're a very nice person. I appreciate that it
(05:25):
seems like you actually use your name on your profile,
but with all due respect, and this does not offend
me at all. I believe you are very unfamiliar with
my work, because whether you like this show, hate this show,
whatever it is, I think I think I could say
and not get laughed at that I've a I've got
a good track record of not carrying the water for
(05:47):
the teams in town. The people who would be most
surprised to find out that I always have the Bengals
back are the people who run and work for the Bengals.
So I feel pretty comfortable in saying that. God knows
I I can't tell you how many times I've had
conversations with people with the Bengals, the reds FC, you
see Xavier, and I'm not doing this. This is just
(06:08):
part of the job. Lance has had to deal with this,
Tony has had to deal with this, Austin's gonna have
to deal with this. Like you do this long enough,
you're gonna say stuff that pisses them off, and hopefully
you have a good dialogue. I'm proud of our record.
I'd never make things personal, but yes, I've been very
critical of the Cincinnati Bengals over the course of my career.
Amy responded and said, actually, I don't listen. She does
(06:29):
hear me on Paul Danner's podcast, and I said, that's cool.
Look listen, here's our link. I think she lives in Louisiana.
She's an LSU alum. As She fessed up to me
on social media and said, you know, I don't listen
to your show. And I said, well, here's a link
and here's a phone number. In all the years I've
been doing this, I can't tell you how many times
I've said to someone who you know, comes at me
(06:50):
and sometimes they're really mean, sometimes they're just maybe a
little antagonistic, and I'll go like, here's the phone number.
Call the show, like, let's have a conversation. It's sports.
We're not gonna yell at each bite. We're not solving
the world's problems. Nobody ever takes me up on the
offer until today, Hi, Amy, Hey, mo.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Are we going to be friends? I hope you're a
friendship for me.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I hope. So how's it going.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's going so good. I was really shocked to hear
you just say that nobody's taking you up on that offer.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Nobody. I can't tell you how many. And like I
have stopped, for the most part interacting with like anonymous people.
But like I had a guy once who for years
I used to call him Tony the Racist. He would
email me and it was always like I could do
such a better job than you, and I'm like, dude,
come on in, like, come on in. Wow, I'll give
you my headphones, I'll show you the ropes, I'll show
(07:47):
you where the vending machines are, like, come on in,
and I bet you can. And never took me up
on it. And so I get people that complain at
me all the time, and they get mad and I
try to say, like, look, I've got a phone number.
Let's have a discussion and it'll be amicable. We're only
talking sports here. Oh we're not talking we're not talking tariffs. Well,
(08:08):
we're not solving the Ukrainian conflict. We're talking about football.
And then usually nobody, not only do they not do it,
don't even respond. So thank you and God bless you
for responding, or where are you calling from?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay? So I am a Louisiana girl and a very
proud LSU alum Jan Tigers. All right, but I live
in Birmingham, Alabama, for the past eleven years alongside my
husband Josh, and we have two beautiful girls. He's also
a proud LSU alum. And yeah, so I feel like
moving from Louisiana to Birmingham. We are about an hour
(08:43):
from Tescalusa, an hour and a half from Auburn. We're
in the heart of enemy territory, if you will, with
Alabama and Auburn. I am very used to and comfortable
with back and forth sports banter.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
All right, Hey, by the way, how do you like
that Brian Kelly guy?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Okay, you know, I am not an l s U
person who is just going to try to tell you
everything is great in hunky Dory. With Brian Kelly, I
have some pretty strong opinions. I don't think he's the
worst coach. Ever, I think Notre Dame fans might get
their panties in a wad a little bit about Brian
Kelly sometimes kind of like a girlfriend that got left,
(09:24):
you know, at times. But I do I think he's
I think he's okay. I think he's okay. But he
made some critical, critical errors when he first sets the
job at l s U, letting go our longtime DB's
coach Corey Raymond and just not retaining our strength and
conditioning coach who now is at Texas A and M.
(09:46):
So there's there's there's some key critical decisions he made
that were errors. Obviously, the defense was a disaster and
has been a disaster. So anyway, yeah, defense this past.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Year, there are similar So is your first in the Bengals.
Is that because of LSU, because of Joe Burrow or
have you been a Bengals fan all along? No?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I you guys drafted Joe Burrow and of course I
showed interests that first season, and then of course the
big knee injury in twenty twenty that when you drafted
Jamar Chase fifth overall that next season, I was all in.
I mean, my husband, I can't remember which Cincinnati artist
made that drawing that was a T shirt of Joe Burrow,
(10:27):
Jamar Chase and T Higgins smoking cigar in the lockers
locker room, but my husband bought me that T shirt
and I wear it proudly anyway, So yeah, I kind
of went all in and you know, kind of watched
it all unfold. Of course, I was very aware of
the chatter that was around Joe shouldn't go to Cincinnati
(10:50):
because the chief ownership and all of this, but didn't
really know what to think. Had had zero opinion about
the Bengals as a team and a franchise prior to
drafting Joe Burrow, and new very little other than Andrew
Whitworth played football.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
There, that's right, and at a Hall of Fame level.
All right, So here's what I will tell you. So
we were obviously thrilled that Joe was coming to Cincinnati.
The Bengals got Joe Burrow because they were terrible the
year before, and that was at the end of about
a half decade stretch where they got progressively worse every
single season. And you know, we don't have to document
(11:24):
the entire history of this franchise, but if we're being generous,
we'll say that it is checkered, and there's a lot
of frustration with ownership, and it's deserved, it's justified frustration.
I think sometimes there are criticisms that are a little
bit unfair. I think sometimes there are criticisms that are
a little bit out of bounds. But at the end
of the day. It's a franchise that hasn't done a
(11:44):
lot of winning, and when that's the case, you get
what's coming to you. So now I think, and I
think you would agree. I think in relation to a
lot of what the Bengals have done, not just this offseason,
but over the last couple of years, they have earned
every piece of criticism that has come their way, from
the criticism of players getting away, in them not being
(12:05):
able to replace them, the unwillingness to pay some of
them as good a job as they did in free
agency in twenty and twenty one, they've done an equally
bad job over the last couple of years. Their drafts
in recent years have not yielded enough good players, and
they failed Joe Burrow last year. Joe, as you know,
Amy was I think the best quarterback in the NFL
(12:25):
last season.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think he did.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
If he's on an eleven win team, he wins the MVP.
They wasted it. You cannot do that. And so those
are organizational failures. And the two things I will tell
you is the number one. I think you and I
will agree with that. Number two, I can't speak for
anybody else who has a microphone in front of their
face for three hours a day, every day. But I
(12:50):
could tell you on this show, and I think my
audience would agree. We have criticized them heavily for that,
not personally. We don't make it personal, but we have.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I heard listened a little bit this afternoon, and I've heard,
I've heard your honest opinion, and I appreciate that. So
I apologize my natal assessment came on a little strong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yes, right, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Now, grateful for the opportunity to hear more of your
point of view today.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, thank you. So now, so we're good there, right,
We're okay, We're on the same page there. Now, this
this Trey Hendrickson thing, right, So Trey was a New
Orleans Saint and so you know, kind of your neck
of the woods. Trey is a terrific player. I think
you can make the case that he is the greatest
free agency acquisition in the history of the franchise. And
(13:39):
if the Bengals gave him the contract that he is
looking for, I wouldn't think it was the worst thing
in the world. But I can understand why they view him.
He's under contract for this year. He is going to
be thirty one at the end of the season. I
can understand why they view him as an investment that's
only going to depreciate in the coming years. It's a
(14:00):
large part because it's hard to have the sort of
season that he had last year, and so I think
there is the sticking point. So they've allowed him to
see if a team will sign him, and if one will,
then they're going to have to work out a trade.
But because he's such a good player, and because they
really need him on the team this year. We could
debate about twenty twenty six and beyond, I think the
(14:22):
asking price should be very, very high. And I guess
you took issue with my point of view in that regard,
and I'm kind of curious as to why.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, well, so twofold. Specifically about Trey I feel like
he has earned every single timney. He was grossly underpaid
this past season. I understand that it was a contract
that he signed. The Saints should have never let him go,
but they didn't have a choice. They had such a
(14:53):
plethora of defensive talent, like obscene amount of defensive talent
because they were drafting so well, unlike the Bengals have
at least in the past five years that I've been
following closely, and so Trey, like you said, I agree
wholeheartedly the best free agent agent acquisition, incredible, But I
(15:14):
think he deserves every penny he's owed and then some.
I mean, he's kind of seemle handedly made that defense
it at least at least show up in these games.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And so.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't understand if they don't want to pay him
that money. Whatever that is, thirty million, thirty five million
a year, you know, I know Max Crosby, you know
that that pushed that market even higher and and different
players that have gotten these huge deals since then. But
I do think that if they're not going to do it,
(15:51):
I think I think it's just you. You treat people well,
people that have been good to you, you'd be good
back to them. And I think all that does.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is help your future.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It helps more people want to be a Cincinnati Bengal.
So you're either good to him by paying him or
allowing him to go to the team that is willing
to pay him without demanding a first round draft pick
out of it. Well, and I think they're trying to
play it both ways, and ultimately I think it's it's
it burns a bridge that they don't need to burn.
(16:21):
I think you win the Super Bowl if you have
Andrew Whitworth on the Bengals versus on the Rams. You know,
you don't let go of these players. You don't let
go of Jesse Bates.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You don't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You keep your talent in your city, whether you drafted them,
got to buy free agents, you do everything. You pay
them early, you restructure contracts early, You pay them, and
you keep it and you end up saving your team
more money in the long run.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I think my boss wants you to do the show
tomorrow instead of me. I think everything you said makes sense.
I think there's a difference between letting players go and
letting players go and the plan to replace them not working,
and I I think that's the issue here, right Like,
they let Andrew Whitworth go. He was in his mid thirties,
and you know, okay, fine, but the plan to replace them,
which they telegraphed a year and a half in advance,
(17:09):
did not work. And the plan to replace Jesse Bates
did not work, and they drafted a guy who plays
Trey Hendrickson's position two years ago from Clemson, Miles Murphy
and he had as many sacks last year as you
and your husband combined. I mean it hasn't worked. And look,
we all like Trey, but the Bengals do have a
(17:29):
responsibility to themselves and we can certainly, we can certainly
make a case for signing Trey long term at what
he's looking for. And I think there's arguments against signing
him long term, but based on what they have chosen
to do. First of all, they have given him the
ability while under contract to go talk with other teams,
which is doing Trey a solid And number two, given
(17:51):
what they have tried to do, they do have an
obligation to themselves and to their football team to get
the most back in return, which means the asking price
should be high. They would be I think raaked through
the coals if they just let Trey walk and took
like sixty cents on the dollar for a guy who
was a defensive Player of the Year candidate last year.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well yeah, but so so pay him, pay him what
he's worse. It's you have the money, they have the money.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They don't have the money. No, I see. The thing
is I some will say they don't have the money.
Where you and I are in agreement. It's they they
have the money. I just think they view paying him
in twenty twenty six as something that's not going to
yield twenty twenty four results. Here's the deal, Amy, I
gotta I gotta get moving here because it's radio and
we don't have all day. I need two things. Number One,
(18:40):
are we okay? We friends? I just followed you back.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
We're friends for life?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh here, will you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Talking football with somebody?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right? And I know in Birmingham you gotta listen
to Paul Finebaum every day? But but will you? Will
you just give us, like just a few hours a
week and call the show again. I cannot tell you
how much I enjoyed this, and I cannot tell you
how cool I think it is that someone that had
a disagreement with me responded to the call no pun,
(19:09):
intended to call the show and have a discussion. That
I think that is cool as hell, even if we
don't entirely agree. I think that is awesome. And so
we're buddies now. And hopefully you'll listen, if not every day,
on an occasional basis, and you could you could, you know,
contribute to the show occasionally. Okay?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Do you put the show on YouTube, like if I
go on YouTube? Or is it just that you need
to download the app?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What do I need to do if I don't live
in natural So it's broadcast, that's all right. It's broadcast
every day on the iHeartRadio app two to five your time,
and we podcast every show. So you can get it
on the iHeartRadio app. You could get it on and
I tweet out the links. You can get it on Apple,
you can get it on Spotify. I will make sure
(19:52):
when I tweet out the link to today's show and specifically
this conversation, that I tag you and then you have
the links and you can listen anytime you want. Okay,
that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, hey, I'm rooting. I'm rooting for this all the
work out. I'm rooting for this, for everybody to get paid,
everybody to be there, and to win a Super Bowl in.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Twenty twenty five. See, that's that's the common ground you
and I have. We both want the same thing. Our
opinions different to a degree on how they accomplished that.
But there's more common ground than I think you thought
there was this morning, Amy, thank you very much. What's
your husband's name?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
His name is Josh Joshell. You said our last name, right,
You win a gold star for that. Nobody does that. Robery.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, Robbery's two bees. You have one, so I got
them more on Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Hey, I'm impressed with the education up there versus here
in Alabama because they always say robbery.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, well, that in itself is robbery, all right, Amy,
Thank you very much. Follow Amy on on Twitter. Thank
you very much. That's I'll be honest with you, man.
We've done this show a long damn time. At Amy
Robery on Twitter
Covers the Bengals right like ESPN in fifteen to thirty
Cincinnati's sports this this is going to be thank you
five O five ESPN fifteen thirty. This is going to
be a very busy hour because there's lots going on.
Xavier loses in the Big East Tournament to Marquette. Really
good game they waste, i'll say spoil, a terrific Ryan
(00:22):
Conwell performance, eighty nine to eighty seven. The final score.
The Muskies very much on the bubble. Sean Miller is
going to talk here in a few minutes. We'll have
that for you. Our buddy, Paul Frischner's at Madison Square Garden.
He is winding down interviews and then we're gonna chat
with him at five twenty. The NKY bracket guy's going
to join us at five thirty five, So I'll have
(00:42):
the college basketball covered. By the way, if you're wondering,
Miami is playing right now in the MAC Tournament. The
RedHawks tied at twenty four, five and a half to
go in the first half in that one in Cleveland.
Not a lot of Bengals news today. That has been
the theme of the week. Unfortunately, in activity, they haven't
addressed their major needs. Samajp Ryan is back. We played
some of that audio for you. I got to give
(01:03):
some backstory here. I'm really excited. I'm really excited that
we're about to do this. So earlier today, Diana Russini
of The Athletic reported something about Trey Hendrickson and it's this,
and I'm pulling up the tweets as we speak. She
tweeted that teams are willing to pay Trey Hendrickson the
(01:24):
contract that he is looking for, which clearly, for better
or for worse, the Bengals are not. So he has
found a suitor, he has found a taker. But according
to Diana, she cites an NFL GM who calls the
bengals current asking price quote ridiculous, and she adds to it,
the Bengals can adjust as the offseason progresses, but right
(01:46):
now teams aren't willing to meet their terms. So I
saw this this morning and as having a cup of
coffee sitting on my kitchen table, and I saw it,
retweeted it, and my take was good, The price should
be ridiculous because Trey Hendrickson is a terrific player. Now
(02:06):
the Bengals value him and they won him on the
team in twenty twenty five. Obviously they have balked the
idea that they're going to pay him thirty thirty two
to thirty four million dollars. I have thought all along,
the Bengals have handled this well, give Trey a chance
to go and see if there's another team out there
that will pay him, and if he does, see if
that team sends something to Cincinnati that the Bengals agree on,
(02:28):
and if that works out and the Bengals make the trade,
then we can assess it on its merits and wonder
are the Bengals in twenty twenty five better off with
what they get for Trey Hendrickson or with Trey Hendrickson.
That's going to be a fair question if it comes
to that, in the absence of Trey finding a contract elsewhere,
well maybe he comes back at a diminished negotiating position
(02:51):
and the Bengals get a deal done, or worst case,
he plays for the team this year and he's highly motivated.
But of course, in my opinion, they should be asking
for a lot for Trey Hendrickson because you're giving up
a player who you need right now. They have nobody
else who can get after the quarterback, and they want
to try to win the whole thing this year. So
say what you want about all the other stuff the
(03:11):
Bengals have mismanaged. They're right for being ridiculous here in
my opinion. So I expressed that on social media on Twitter. Now,
I think, you know, I don't have a Twitter policy.
Like I hear people talking about their Twitter policy. I
think that's really sort of stupid. But like, I don't
really block people. I've blocked probably a dozen people in
(03:35):
sixteen years. I just unless you're just a huge a hole,
if it's homophobia, if it's racism, if it's I just
you're blocked. But don't I don't get a lot of that.
So I don't block a lot of people. I have
had less interest over the years in interacting with folks
(03:58):
who tell you nothing about themselves. And like one of
my goals this year is like I'm gonna spend less
time communicating with folks on social media who are just
they They don't tell you anything about them. Now, look,
if you want to be anonymous and that's your thing,
that's cool. I just I like knowing something about you
doesn't mean your opinion's not valid. It doesn't mean I
don't look at it. I just if we're gonna, if
(04:20):
we're gonna do this, like give me something. So I'm
I'm scrolling through and I see a tweet from a
woman by the name of Amy, and I hope I'm
not butchering this Amy robery. And uh, you know that's
it's not like it's uh, I don't know Bengal Amy
(04:41):
twenty nine sixty two forty five. You know, like Amy,
bunch of numbers that there's a picture of her. It's
a nice picture. Uh. And and so it, you know,
looks like the sort of person that is either a
finely crafted bot or someone who you know is gonna
tell you a little bit about themselves. So this is
the tweet she sent me, A little bit mean. This
is the tweet she sent me. She wrote, how are
(05:04):
you helping be a reliable media representative for the city
of Cincinnati? Truly? Do you represent the team directly? You
should represent the people Constantly. Having the back of the
worst run and cheapest franchise in the league is one
way to turn off fans. And I wrote, I quote
tweeted it. I wrote, I appreciate you following me I'm
sure you're a very nice person. I appreciate that it
(05:25):
seems like you actually use your name on your profile,
but with all due respect, and this does not offend
me at all. I believe you are very unfamiliar with
my work, because whether you like this show, hate this show,
whatever it is, I think I think I could say
and not get laughed at that I've a I've got
a good track record of not carrying the water for
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the teams in town. The people who would be most
surprised to find out that I always have the Bengals
back are the people who run and work for the Bengals.
So I feel pretty comfortable in saying that. God knows
I I can't tell you how many times I've had
conversations with people with the Bengals, the reds FC, you
see Xavier, and I'm not doing this. This is just
(06:08):
part of the job. Lance has had to deal with this,
Tony has had to deal with this, Austin's gonna have
to deal with this. Like you do this long enough,
you're gonna say stuff that pisses them off, and hopefully
you have a good dialogue. I'm proud of our record.
I'd never make things personal, but yes, I've been very
critical of the Cincinnati Bengals over the course of my career.
Amy responded and said, actually, I don't listen. She does
(06:29):
hear me on Paul Danner's podcast, and I said, that's cool.
Look listen, here's our link. I think she lives in Louisiana.
She's an LSU alum. As She fessed up to me
on social media and said, you know, I don't listen
to your show. And I said, well, here's a link
and here's a phone number. In all the years I've
been doing this, I can't tell you how many times
I've said to someone who you know, comes at me
(06:50):
and sometimes they're really mean, sometimes they're just maybe a
little antagonistic, and I'll go like, here's the phone number.
Call the show, like, let's have a conversation. It's sports.
We're not gonna yell at each bite. We're not solving
the world's problems. Nobody ever takes me up on the
offer until today, Hi, Amy, Hey, mo.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Are we going to be friends? I hope you're a
friendship for me.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I hope. So how's it going.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's going so good. I was really shocked to hear
you just say that nobody's taking you up on that offer.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Nobody. I can't tell you how many. And like I
have stopped, for the most part interacting with like anonymous people.
But like I had a guy once who for years
I used to call him Tony the Racist. He would
email me and it was always like I could do
such a better job than you, and I'm like, dude,
come on in, like, come on in. Wow, I'll give
you my headphones, I'll show you the ropes, I'll show
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you where the vending machines are, like, come on in,
and I bet you can. And never took me up
on it. And so I get people that complain at
me all the time, and they get mad and I
try to say, like, look, I've got a phone number.
Let's have a discussion and it'll be amicable. We're only
talking sports here. Oh we're not talking we're not talking tariffs. Well,
(08:08):
we're not solving the Ukrainian conflict. We're talking about football.
And then usually nobody, not only do they not do it,
don't even respond. So thank you and God bless you
for responding, or where are you calling from?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay? So I am a Louisiana girl and a very
proud LSU alum Jan Tigers. All right, but I live
in Birmingham, Alabama, for the past eleven years alongside my
husband Josh, and we have two beautiful girls. He's also
a proud LSU alum. And yeah, so I feel like
moving from Louisiana to Birmingham. We are about an hour
(08:43):
from Tescalusa, an hour and a half from Auburn. We're
in the heart of enemy territory, if you will, with
Alabama and Auburn. I am very used to and comfortable
with back and forth sports banter.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
All right, Hey, by the way, how do you like
that Brian Kelly guy?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Okay, you know, I am not an l s U
person who is just going to try to tell you
everything is great in hunky Dory. With Brian Kelly, I
have some pretty strong opinions. I don't think he's the
worst coach. Ever, I think Notre Dame fans might get
their panties in a wad a little bit about Brian
Kelly sometimes kind of like a girlfriend that got left,
(09:24):
you know, at times. But I do I think he's
I think he's okay. I think he's okay. But he
made some critical, critical errors when he first sets the
job at l s U, letting go our longtime DB's
coach Corey Raymond and just not retaining our strength and
conditioning coach who now is at Texas A and M.
(09:46):
So there's there's there's some key critical decisions he made
that were errors. Obviously, the defense was a disaster and
has been a disaster. So anyway, yeah, defense this past.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Year, there are similar So is your first in the Bengals.
Is that because of LSU, because of Joe Burrow or
have you been a Bengals fan all along? No?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I you guys drafted Joe Burrow and of course I
showed interests that first season, and then of course the
big knee injury in twenty twenty that when you drafted
Jamar Chase fifth overall that next season, I was all in.
I mean, my husband, I can't remember which Cincinnati artist
made that drawing that was a T shirt of Joe Burrow,
(10:27):
Jamar Chase and T Higgins smoking cigar in the lockers
locker room, but my husband bought me that T shirt
and I wear it proudly anyway, So yeah, I kind
of went all in and you know, kind of watched
it all unfold. Of course, I was very aware of
the chatter that was around Joe shouldn't go to Cincinnati
(10:50):
because the chief ownership and all of this, but didn't
really know what to think. Had had zero opinion about
the Bengals as a team and a franchise prior to
drafting Joe Burrow, and new very little other than Andrew
Whitworth played football.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
There, that's right, and at a Hall of Fame level.
All right, So here's what I will tell you. So
we were obviously thrilled that Joe was coming to Cincinnati.
The Bengals got Joe Burrow because they were terrible the
year before, and that was at the end of about
a half decade stretch where they got progressively worse every
single season. And you know, we don't have to document
(11:24):
the entire history of this franchise, but if we're being generous,
we'll say that it is checkered, and there's a lot
of frustration with ownership, and it's deserved, it's justified frustration.
I think sometimes there are criticisms that are a little
bit unfair. I think sometimes there are criticisms that are
a little bit out of bounds. But at the end
of the day. It's a franchise that hasn't done a
(11:44):
lot of winning, and when that's the case, you get
what's coming to you. So now I think, and I
think you would agree. I think in relation to a
lot of what the Bengals have done, not just this offseason,
but over the last couple of years, they have earned
every piece of criticism that has come their way, from
the criticism of players getting away, in them not being
(12:05):
able to replace them, the unwillingness to pay some of
them as good a job as they did in free
agency in twenty and twenty one, they've done an equally
bad job over the last couple of years. Their drafts
in recent years have not yielded enough good players, and
they failed Joe Burrow last year. Joe, as you know,
Amy was I think the best quarterback in the NFL
(12:25):
last season.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think he did.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
If he's on an eleven win team, he wins the MVP.
They wasted it. You cannot do that. And so those
are organizational failures. And the two things I will tell
you is the number one. I think you and I
will agree with that. Number two, I can't speak for
anybody else who has a microphone in front of their
face for three hours a day, every day. But I
(12:50):
could tell you on this show, and I think my
audience would agree. We have criticized them heavily for that,
not personally. We don't make it personal, but we have.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I heard listened a little bit this afternoon, and I've heard,
I've heard your honest opinion, and I appreciate that. So
I apologize my natal assessment came on a little strong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yes, right, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Now, grateful for the opportunity to hear more of your
point of view today.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, thank you. So now, so we're good there, right,
We're okay, We're on the same page there. Now, this
this Trey Hendrickson thing, right, So Trey was a New
Orleans Saint and so you know, kind of your neck
of the woods. Trey is a terrific player. I think
you can make the case that he is the greatest
free agency acquisition in the history of the franchise. And
(13:39):
if the Bengals gave him the contract that he is
looking for, I wouldn't think it was the worst thing
in the world. But I can understand why they view him.
He's under contract for this year. He is going to
be thirty one at the end of the season. I
can understand why they view him as an investment that's
only going to depreciate in the coming years. It's a
(14:00):
large part because it's hard to have the sort of
season that he had last year, and so I think
there is the sticking point. So they've allowed him to
see if a team will sign him, and if one will,
then they're going to have to work out a trade.
But because he's such a good player, and because they
really need him on the team this year. We could
debate about twenty twenty six and beyond, I think the
(14:22):
asking price should be very, very high. And I guess
you took issue with my point of view in that regard,
and I'm kind of curious as to why.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, well, so twofold. Specifically about Trey I feel like
he has earned every single timney. He was grossly underpaid
this past season. I understand that it was a contract
that he signed. The Saints should have never let him go,
but they didn't have a choice. They had such a
(14:53):
plethora of defensive talent, like obscene amount of defensive talent
because they were drafting so well, unlike the Bengals have
at least in the past five years that I've been
following closely, and so Trey, like you said, I agree
wholeheartedly the best free agent agent acquisition, incredible, But I
(15:14):
think he deserves every penny he's owed and then some.
I mean, he's kind of seemle handedly made that defense
it at least at least show up in these games.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And so.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't understand if they don't want to pay him
that money. Whatever that is, thirty million, thirty five million
a year, you know, I know Max Crosby, you know
that that pushed that market even higher and and different
players that have gotten these huge deals since then. But
I do think that if they're not going to do it,
(15:51):
I think I think it's just you. You treat people well,
people that have been good to you, you'd be good
back to them. And I think all that does.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is help your future.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It helps more people want to be a Cincinnati Bengal.
So you're either good to him by paying him or
allowing him to go to the team that is willing
to pay him without demanding a first round draft pick
out of it. Well, and I think they're trying to
play it both ways, and ultimately I think it's it's
it burns a bridge that they don't need to burn.
(16:21):
I think you win the Super Bowl if you have
Andrew Whitworth on the Bengals versus on the Rams. You know,
you don't let go of these players. You don't let
go of Jesse Bates.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You don't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You keep your talent in your city, whether you drafted them,
got to buy free agents, you do everything. You pay
them early, you restructure contracts early, You pay them, and
you keep it and you end up saving your team
more money in the long run.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I think my boss wants you to do the show
tomorrow instead of me. I think everything you said makes sense.
I think there's a difference between letting players go and
letting players go and the plan to replace them not working,
and I I think that's the issue here, right Like,
they let Andrew Whitworth go. He was in his mid thirties,
and you know, okay, fine, but the plan to replace them,
which they telegraphed a year and a half in advance,
(17:09):
did not work. And the plan to replace Jesse Bates
did not work, and they drafted a guy who plays
Trey Hendrickson's position two years ago from Clemson, Miles Murphy
and he had as many sacks last year as you
and your husband combined. I mean it hasn't worked. And look,
we all like Trey, but the Bengals do have a
(17:29):
responsibility to themselves and we can certainly, we can certainly
make a case for signing Trey long term at what
he's looking for. And I think there's arguments against signing
him long term, but based on what they have chosen
to do. First of all, they have given him the
ability while under contract to go talk with other teams,
which is doing Trey a solid And number two, given
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what they have tried to do, they do have an
obligation to themselves and to their football team to get
the most back in return, which means the asking price
should be high. They would be I think raaked through
the coals if they just let Trey walk and took
like sixty cents on the dollar for a guy who
was a defensive Player of the Year candidate last year.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well yeah, but so so pay him, pay him what
he's worse. It's you have the money, they have the money.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They don't have the money. No, I see. The thing
is I some will say they don't have the money.
Where you and I are in agreement. It's they they
have the money. I just think they view paying him
in twenty twenty six as something that's not going to
yield twenty twenty four results. Here's the deal, Amy, I
gotta I gotta get moving here because it's radio and
we don't have all day. I need two things. Number One,
(18:40):
are we okay? We friends? I just followed you back.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
We're friends for life?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh here, will you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Talking football with somebody?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right? And I know in Birmingham you gotta listen
to Paul Finebaum every day? But but will you? Will
you just give us, like just a few hours a
week and call the show again. I cannot tell you
how much I enjoyed this, and I cannot tell you
how cool I think it is that someone that had
a disagreement with me responded to the call no pun,
(19:09):
intended to call the show and have a discussion. That
I think that is cool as hell, even if we
don't entirely agree. I think that is awesome. And so
we're buddies now. And hopefully you'll listen, if not every day,
on an occasional basis, and you could you could, you know,
contribute to the show occasionally. Okay?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Do you put the show on YouTube, like if I
go on YouTube? Or is it just that you need
to download the app?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
What do I need to do if I don't live
in natural So it's broadcast, that's all right. It's broadcast
every day on the iHeartRadio app two to five your time,
and we podcast every show. So you can get it
on the iHeartRadio app. You could get it on and
I tweet out the links. You can get it on Apple,
you can get it on Spotify. I will make sure
(19:52):
when I tweet out the link to today's show and specifically
this conversation, that I tag you and then you have
the links and you can listen anytime you want. Okay,
that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, hey, I'm rooting. I'm rooting for this all the
work out. I'm rooting for this, for everybody to get paid,
everybody to be there, and to win a Super Bowl in.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Twenty twenty five. See, that's that's the common ground you
and I have. We both want the same thing. Our
opinions different to a degree on how they accomplished that.
But there's more common ground than I think you thought
there was this morning, Amy, thank you very much. What's
your husband's name?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
His name is Josh Joshell. You said our last name, right,
You win a gold star for that. Nobody does that. Robery.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, Robbery's two bees. You have one, so I got
them more on Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Hey, I'm impressed with the education up there versus here
in Alabama because they always say robbery.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, well, that in itself is robbery, all right, Amy,
Thank you very much. Follow Amy on on Twitter. Thank
you very much. That's I'll be honest with you, man.
We've done this show a long damn time. At Amy
Robery on Twitter
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