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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To the home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm gonna get to sports headlines in a few minutes.
I don't want to make our guest wait. Mike Renner
is a longtime favorite of this show. Even though he
doesn't live here anymore, we still love talking with him
this time of year. Writes about the draft, covers the
draft for cbssports dot com. He has a his latest
three round mock draft is up. I tweeted a link
to that if you want to go get it. Also
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one of the hosts of the Pushing the Pile podcast,
and I'm sure he's very busy this time of year,
so still kind enough to give us a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Mike, It's good to have you. What's up.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I always got to talk to you, mo, And I'm
actually moving back to CINCI at the end of the summer,
so really say wow, yes sir, all right, well, we
look forward to look forward to seeing you man.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I you know, people who do draft work hate when
people like me do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
So you do a three round mock draft, and I'm
not going to give away the content, so folks want
to read who you have the Bengals taking in the
first three rounds, they should go do that at cbsports
dot Com. Unfortunately, my first inclination when I read it
so was he doesn't have them taking a guard.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I just have a higher grade on I have them
going Mike kil Williams the Georgia defensive end, and to me,
he just feels like a Bengals type of defensive end.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's kind of like the body type they've covered it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The copy half him is literally Carlos Dunlap, So that's
part of the reason why. And also like you can
find guards later. Now, I don't have them addressing guard
any later, but I do think that traditionally you can.
But if they do draft Tyler Booker, who is like
the one guard I would take at pick seventeen, I'm
not gonna be upset about it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Like that. He is a plug and play day one.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Starter at guard, which is probably when they're glaring.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Their most glaring need at this moment in time.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The glaring need above and beyond guard is defensive players,
like you could you could justify I think taking a
player at any position where on that side of the
ball can they afford least to wait.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I think it's Edge.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Why I have them going Michael Williams just because just
look historically at the impact players, it's rare to find
guys outside of the first round who develop in the
highend guys. Now they do have one and Trey Henderson right,
but it is a position where the body types, the
athletic skill sets, the NFL identifies them well. It doesn't
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mean every first round or hits, but it's like you're
Miles Garrett or TJ.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Watts. You know your Micah Parsons is of the world.
They just know what they look like.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The big, strong, fast guys go early. So I think
Edge is the one. Whereas defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
This year is super deep at the day.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Two cornerback you can find those shoot into day three.
So there are other positions in this draft that you
can find later, but I'm not sure Edge.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You're gonna want to wait.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Top to bottom, What do you make of this year's
class in safety?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think the top end guys are great, and I'll
spoil my mom a. I'm going Kevin Winston Junior, the
Penn State safety in the second round.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I think him, Malachi Starts, nick a.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Man and worri Are like starting could be top ten
safeties in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Sorts of talent. Like those guys are very good. It's
a very good top end of the class.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now there's a little bit of a second group, but
there may only be you know, say that two of
the guys go in the first round. There may only
be like four or five safeties that go date two.
It's just not that deep. So if you want one,
I'm not sure you can wait until the third to
find a starter for yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Can I ask the same question about linebacker?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, linebacker is just not a good class. I think
it's one of the weaker positions in this draft class.
You have Giad Campbell, who's going to go in the
first you have Carson Swessinger from UCLA who's probably your
second guy off the board, probably somewhere in the top fifty.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
After that, it really is slim pickens.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
There's not a lot of other guys I'm really going
to bat for in this linebacker class as top hundred picks.
Probably only two or three more that I would even consider.
So it is just a weak class of linebacker this year.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Mike Renners, CBS Sports, NFL Draft analyst. The cornerback is
interesting to me because I feel like they're just going
to run it back with a whole lot of guys
they have drafted early in recent years. They haven't really
addressed the position in free agency this offseason. They obviously
have a new defensive coordinator and Al Golden, and it
kind of feels like they're just gonna, you know, see
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if he can get more out of a group that
last year top to bottom was was pretty underwhelming.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
If that's their approach, what's your critique.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'm not upset about it because they drafted a lot
of these guys very highly right, and I thought Jack
Sell actually look good at corner before obviously tearing acl
cam Britt has Taylor Britt has looked good at corner
over time. So like there comes a time where whether
it's a new defensive coordinator or just these guys got
to step it up, right, Like you've drafted too many
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guys too early to just keep throwing darths and they
just gotta developed. So I would take one day three,
you know, I'm not leaving this draft without corner all together,
kind of how they drafted Josh Newton a year ago.
But I don't think it's a position that if you're out,
you know day two's over and they haven't taken it
that I'm too worried about a pumping Veganstine.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Where is the cutoff line between being able to get
a guard who could play year one in somebody who's
a little bit more of a long term developmental guy.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
That's a great question. I think it's it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think in through the middle of day two through
I think even whether at pick eighty two, I think
you could probably find a starting guard. Now it's going
to be a tackle. I think that's the biggest thing
in this classes. There's so many tackles that people are
going to want to kick any guard one because the
guards who are guards on the Quija level last year
quite frankly stunk like there's only one guy in my
top hundred who was a guard at the Clesia level
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or two guys in my top hundred who.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Guards the Coclesion level last year.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So but there are a lot of interesting tackle to
guard converts. So I do think through willing to go
that route, I think you could still find one.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
With picking the third round, I would be I would
be more than okay of this class. And by the way,
for the Bengals, they only have six picks, right, so
I want to guard and I won five defensive players.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There is a chorus of people who.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Would say, find a running back somewhere in this class
and added to a room that has Chase Brown and
samajp Ryan.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There's certainly some validity to that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I hate that it would come at the expense of
a defensive player, but if that's a direction they want
to go in, give me a running back that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean, and you could get a running back
in the fourth too.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Like it's that good of a class that there's just
not enough teams who will draft them. So I mean
saw Bucky Irving last year in the fourth Not to
say that there's definitely Bucky Irving, but like, I think
there's a bunch of guys. So a guy could be
outside the top hundred who I think is still gonna
be good. There's a couple of names that I like.
One is camp Scattabo Boo from Arizona State. If you
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looking for, like Chase Brown, your kind of spaceback, good athlete.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Scatby as much more of.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
His short yardage goal line sort of back and pald
between the tackle and then I also like Jordan James
a lot as a guy who can be in a
similar mold to Oregon running back. Probably gonna not going
to come up on the board until day three because
he's not too physically imposing in a class full of
like some freaks at the running back position. But I
think he's just a very solid down to down runner
and he doesn't fumble. I think that's the one thing
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you worry about Chase Brown is that, yeah, well he
hasn't had fumble issues yet, but he had big time
fumble issues in college.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So if you want a guy who's a little bit
more reliable.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't think George James actually fumbled once in his career,
So that's a guy that you would probably target.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're a Notre Dame guy. Did you like Al Golden.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Oh? I love dal Golden.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Now I didn't love him going cover zero on the last.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Play that National Championship game, Jeremiah Smith out there, but
you're living to die by it.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
So I'm interested to see how he translates the NFL game,
because you know, they.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Played so much man coverage at Notre Dame that just
was their bread and butter, and quite frankly, there's not
you can count on maybe one hand, if not even
a full one hand, how many secondaries connections go line
up and play mancumbers consistently in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Because receivers are too good.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So you got to have, you know, you kind of
got to have a second act.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You got to have something else in your bag. If
you're at DC nowadays, that's not.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Just we have better guys than you, and especially with
this bango secondary, they definitely don't have better guys than
who they'll be lining up against consistently. So I do
think though he got the most out of guys, he
developed really well and so those are a couple of
nice feathers.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
In his cap to have.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
All right, when you move back, let us know.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
For sure we'll do mo all right, look forward to it. Mike,
you're the best man. I do appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Thank you so much, of course, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's one of the best. Mike Renners, CBS Sports NFL
Draft analysts, make sure you go check out his latest
three round MOB draft and one of the hosts of
the Pushing the Pile podcast, which is terrific as well.
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Diaz to come back.
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Tomorrow, the Bengals will host forty five invited draft eligible
players with local ties their annual Local Players workout. At
five thirty five, I will read all forty five players.
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minutes just reading the names of people that he wanted
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we'll have uh I just got an email about the
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