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You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh what's up? Five five ESPN fifteen thirty on Boleeger.
Thank you for listening. We have to get right to
this because our guest is working right now. He's that
Great American ballpark. He's covering a game tonight and he's
he's talking with players, he's jotting down notes, he's filing stories.
This guy does it all. You know, it's for years
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we've had Pat Brennan on the show from the Inquirer
in Cincinna dot com. And he comes on with us,
and you know, his beat has for years been FC Cincinnati.
His primary beat for years has been FC Cincinnati. And
we love talking about the Orange and Blue with Pat.
And then he comes on and then we you know,
we make fun of whatever is going on with the
Philadelphia teams, and I take a few shots at him
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and he laughs, and then it's a grand old time.
And then I always spend like the next forty eight
hours wondering God, but didn't make Pat mad, and so
we haven't done this in a while. We love having
Pat on the show, and so, you know, we the
Eagles won the Super Bowl, and then Pat started covering
baseball on top of other sports, and he was so busy,
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and I wonder to myself, did Pat have his fill
of this show, because god, you really couldn't blame anybody
if they did. And as it turned out, Pat just
was really busy. I don't think he's mad at us,
and so I just wanted to get him on and
I want to talk about the Reds and other stuff
because he really, truly is one of our favorite recurring
guests and he's with us. Now, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Wow, what an intro. I feel at home. I feel
at home.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, we've missed you and and I've missed you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I've missed you. So this is a real love affair.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It really is. Are you? Are you in the press box?
Are you in the press dining room? Where are you now? Hi?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I just stepped out of the press dining room and
trying to take a little breather. These are long, long
day at the ballpark, mo, as I've learned over the
last couple of months.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So but no, every everything's great.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I appreciate you having me on again, and uh just
catching my breath right now, and uh, there's no way
I'd rather do that than right here with you.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Mo.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, I mean this, I know this beat is new
to you, and I have no idea if this is
something you have wanted to do. I don't know, but
you've gotten really good at it in a very short
amount of time, supplementing and adding to what Gordon does.
And that's no slide on him or anybody else. But
I have thought for a while, like, God, you know what,
there's a lot of people who are covering the Bengals
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and you've done an awesome job with FC Cincinnati. We
could use more people giving his reds content and you
have filled that void. So I and that's a lot.
And it's a tough beat, man, I know that's a
hard beat.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So yeah, you're killing out. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would say, like I wanted this job, but only
in the sense that like.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I want to win a million dollars in the lottery.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Tonight, you know, like it it was I guess what
I mean by that is it wasn't you know that
we had people occupying these roles at the Inquirer and
so it wasn't something I was and and they were great,
and you know, uh, a.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Position came open.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I had to fill in for a while, you know,
and you want people to think of you for a
situation like that, it would be.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I would be more concerned if they weren't.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But then when the opportunity was presented to stick in, uh,
in this in this capacity, it was a no brainer,
but not something I planned for. But uh, it's it's
been really cool. You know, it's been it's been like
drinking from a fire hose so far. But we're but
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it'll it'll settle down here and uh.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's it's going well. So thank thank you for all
the kind of words.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well you are, you are doing a good job. I've
got to imagine and I you know, we're we're not
going to talk about your job for ten minutes, trust me,
but I've got to imagine that. I've got to imagine
it's it's easier, at least to a degree, easier to
move into this role when you're starting with a new
manager versus somebody who had been there prior.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh yeah, that helped a lot. I mean so much
about this was new, you know, the well I think
when you have a manager and a coaching staff, you know,
everyone's meeting everyone for the first time. Whether you're a
beat writer who's been on this beat for ten years
or longer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You know, obviously some of the main stays in the.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Clubhouse, you're familiar with those guys, But generally speaking, when
I was out in goodyear, you know, everyone was meeting
everyone for the first time, the entire coaching staff for
the most part, not everyone on the staff obviously, but
most of the coaching staff and a bunch of key
new players that they had brought in during the winter months.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So that that.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Fluidity, let's call it, that really did help kind of
ease the transition, because I wasn't the only one going
through it.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Sure, yeah, no doubt about that. I am. I am
optimistic about this team. They have bounced back from three
to seven. They have really good starting pitching. There have
been defensive improvements. It hasn't been perfect, but that's something
that a lot of us wandered about during the offseason,
where they're going to be better defensively, and they've got
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to get Tyler Stevenson back, and maybe that's happening here soon.
This may be as healthy as they get for a
while and so and the schedule is favorable ish, like,
now's the time this team can take off. Tell me
why I'm right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, the.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
The wrong side popped into my head first when you
prompted me. There, mom oh, And that's because only because
I think they have squandered some There are some games
that you would have liked to have seen them bank
on the backs of the really, really good starting pitching.
And this was during that three and seven stretch to
open the season. They let some clearly in that Ranger series, well,
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the three games where they didn't score a run and
lost one nothing, that was a little bit damning. You
would have liked to have seen them, you know, get
something from those excellent starting pitching performances.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You didn't. They've obviously come back around, and I think
that in.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Terms of reasons for optimism, you know, this this team
hasn't been healthy. What they've done, they've done with kind
of piece.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Mealing this together.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know, Austin Hayes is hitting fifth tonight, He's making
his debut for the season. I loved, loves Austin Hayes
and spring training I wouldn't shut up about it. Gordon
teases me about how much I wrote about Austin Hayes,
but that was just, you know, from the very first
day of spring training, I was watching him in the
cage hit and it looked like he had something that
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other guys, good players on this team, impact players were
reaching for and might still be reaching in some cases.
So I think often Hayes is a huge kind of
re addition to this lineup. And then you know, I
just the pitching. You don't count on it being this
good for the entire season, but there's no indication it's
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gonna let up anytime soon. And like you said, you
know they're they're certainly in the middle of a they're
about to start tonight, I should say, a series that
you would tip them to win at least two out
of three in and yeah, this is a good part
of the schedule. They are more than treading water at
the moment, having one five out of six, and it just.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It looks good.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It looks like they're coming around, and this is you know,
you're seeing improvement in the areas.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Where you wanted to see it from this team.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So the starting pitching, you know, tonight, Nicko Lodolo goes
and he leads the staff in e RA at nine
to six and you wouldn't know that that's just which
is remarkable. Nine then lead the team. So so like
I would say, like Hunter Green would be Roy Hallie
Day and and and Nick Lodola would be Cliff Lee
and then Roy Oswalt would be uh Andrew Abbott. I'm
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putting this in terms like that are right in your wheelhouse,
thank you. And then and then like Paul Hammil's you know,
he would be a Brady Singer who's been really good.
And then there's Nick Martinez. He's kind of like Vance Whirley,
remember him, right, So Nick Martinez last year the Kyle Kendrick,
the Kyle Kendrick. There you go. So like last year,
Nick Martinez was really good in the role that they
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asked him to serve, which was, you know, he'd come
out of the bullpen or if they had a bullpen game,
he would start it and if they needed him to
go a little bit longer, he was. Okay, he hasn't
been awful, but he hasn't been awesome. Is could you
see there being a point where they go, you know what,
we might have to revisit his role.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's interesting you say that. I think that's that's possible.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Probably too early to be thinking in those terms.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'd be surprised if uh DJ and the Reds were
there yet. But you raise a really good point. You know,
you can.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
See electric lights out stuff from Nick Martinez, but when
he goes, you know when, and by goes, I mean
when when he falls off. He seems to fall off
sharply in his last couple outings, and you know it's
it's noticeable. I think it is. It's something to monitor
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right now, and you know, because you know you have
that versatility in your back pocket with him, so you
don't have to necessarily force the issue for too too long.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
If it carried on like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That, I think tomorrow would be a great opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think he's going tomorrow for the Reds. That would
be a great opportunity for him to kind of write
the ship.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And kind of get back in lockstep with what the
rest of this rotation and really the whole pitching staff
is doing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Pat Brennan is with us from Great American Ball are
covering the Reds for The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com
on Twitter or x at pe Brennan e n Q
A couple more because I know you have a game
and you have to eat and do all that other stuff. Uh,
what's Alexis dias Is role going to be?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, he's not going to be handed the closer role.
Terry Francona told us that in his office this afternoon,
and beyond that, Alexis told me Sunday night and repeated
it to a full gaggle of media members this afternoon
that no one has spoken to him about his role.
So from that I infer, well, obviously we know he
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won't be handed the closures role. That I think is
an acknowledgment of how good Emilio Pegan has been early
in the season, going four to four and save opportunities,
and he does look good. But and I think the
fair Terry also said, you know, there's a right way
to go about doing this and kind of sliding Alexis
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back into high leverage spots because right now they have
a great thing going, you know, set up wise end
closing the bullpen is really really producing right now and
you don't want to disrupt that. So I think initially
we're going to see Alexis in kind of low leverage
situations should those present themselves, and.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Then you know he's going to get a shot again.
I don't think there's any question about that.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But like Terry said today in his office, there's a
right way to go about this, and they're going to
do it the right way, and part of that is
to let Emilio continue to do what he's been great at.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Really over the last week, what.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Was a bigger deal for you personally, because we haven't
had you on the Eagles win the Super Bowl, which
you know we were rooting for because you know, we
root against the Chiefs here right.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yes, of course are.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The seventy six ers announcing they're running it back with
the same coach and GM.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm mean, I gotta tell you, since we last SPOKEMO,
I would say that I've I've almost I've officially rescinded
my six Ers fandom. I mean, I'm gonna yeah. I mean, look,
there's been an ugly there's all. They've also been in
the middle of, like they cooked up this really ugly
stadium debate because they were trying to build their own
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venue and they were gonna shoehorn it into a pocket
of Center City where it would have like destroyed the
local Chinese, the local Chinatown community, and that whole thing
ended up just being a long play to stay in
the arena there in and in the meantime, it just
took up so much energy. And you know, Josh Harris
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is one of the owners of the Sixers team.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
If his Washington.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Commanders had beaten the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game,
he would have been out on the field at Lincoln
Financial Field accepting the trophy. And you bet, you bet
he would have done it too. He would been out there.
So I don't see him as being committed to Philadelphia.
There are just so many This is just classic Sixers
basketball in every facet. It's a completely dysfunctional franchise. So
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I'm rescinding my fandom until further notice from this point forward. Moe,
I am laughing with you at the Sixers, Okay, I'm
not cheering that. Don't confuse that for cheering for the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't expect it. No, that would be I wouldn't.
I would not expect that at all. That would be
I would I wouldn't take you. I would say you
can't do that. I would reject you. I know you've
you've had your hands full with the Reds. Are you
following f C Cincinnati?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Oh yeah, dude, I wouldn't be here today without, you know,
the work that I did with with FC Cincinnati and
covering them, And I hope, I hope I get a
chance to convey to those people how much, uh, what
a meaningful chapter in my life that was all in.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
All seriousness, and it's uh, you know, my my.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I don't think it's any secret my transition here has
been a quick one, and uh yeah, I just I
wish the absolute best for FC Cincinnati. And there's a
lot of people over there that mean a hell of
a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To me, so I definitely keep up. I actually went
to my.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
First game as a ticket paying a ticket holding fan.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, because you can pay for the ticket. So you
corrected yourself. Good job, you said that.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'll just sit here. I listen to every word. That
was good.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That was very good, you know. But I went to
a game as a fan for the very first time.
Pretty cool experience at PQL Stadium. I hadn't seen that
much of it, or as much as I thought I had.
And yeah, they look pretty good right now, don't they?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They do know they've overcome a lot of stuff early
in the season. It was jank. That's the word that
I used. Well, worked out into your game story tonight
for me.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, hey, if you see it in there, don't it
won't be an accident.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I appreciate that. It's it's nice to have you on.
I know you have been swamp. I know, like down
a good year. Man, you had like a thousand things
going on. And we've always tried to be selective when
we reach out and we will continue to do so.
But we we love having you on and you do
it awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I always appreciate the offer, and thank you for being
so warm and receiving.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Me back onto the show seriously, and.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Uh, forgive me a couple of seconds here just say
some things that I wanted to say for.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
A while now. I really appreciate it. And uh yeah,
and whenever you want to talk Reds, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh we will, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay, you're the best. Thanks man, Okay, you too. Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Pat Brennan covering the Reds for The Inquirer and Cincinnati
dot Com. I am and I hope this has come
through over the years because we've had pad On to
talk about FC Cincinnati. I am an extraordinary fan of
his work and always always brings something to the table
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