April 23, 2025 • 10 mins
Richard Skinner of Local 12 joined us to talk about the Cincinnati Bengals, the NFL Draft, Trey Hendrickson, and his favorites types of pie.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Local twelve at Local twelve, Skinny, I'll be very
busy over the next couple of days covering the draft
from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com. He's with us, now,
how's it going. It's going well, mo.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm sitting in the parking lot at Saint Xavier High
School's baseball stadium about the broadcast Little Saint Xavier Molar
Baseball Wow with Moler's finest one, Zion theophilis LSU commit
on the mound. I'm sure they'll be Major League Baseball
scouts here. I'm looking very forward to it, looking forward
to the draft.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Tum very cool and you should have good weather for
it tonight as well, which is most important.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, we should. Yeah, that hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Good season. I hear that now, correct me if I'm wrong.
You've done three mock drafts.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Correct, that is correct. I'm doing my last one tonight
and posting it in the morning. The finale. So the
ones I did, I did them all in one week,
right before I took the leak of vacation. So I
did one where they kept the six picks right, and
then I did one where Okay, I'm gonna let the
simulator offer me trades and I took a trade off there,
(01:01):
traded with the Texans. I traded down to twenty five
and got an extra couple third round picks out of that,
and then I did one. We're just just take the
new core option of what can I get if I
trade Trey Hendrix. On that one, I got a second,
third and a fourth round pick from the Lions. Was
that one was interesting to me because I thought, I'm
just gonna keep asking to see what they do, and
they use that jim you know, the Jimmy Johnson trade
(01:21):
chart most people do. They try to stay true to that.
So I kept thinking, I think I'm getting a steal here,
and this doesn't seem right, but okay, if you want
to give it to me, I'll take it. So I'll
do one tomorrow or one tonight. That's just going to
keep the six rounds until they until they make whatever
trades they may make.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So three point zero is my favorite one because it
was the most interesting because I had if I looked
at this correctly and I got it in front of me,
now I had five picks between number twenty five and
number one oh two, trading Trey Hendrickson, So sign me
up for that now. But what's interesting about what you
did is you had the Bengals with nine picks. There's
(01:57):
not a defensive tackle in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, And that's the thing, and I probably aired on
not doing that later in that particular draft. And I
know Walter Nolan's a nice name. I know Harmon's a
nice name. In the first round, there are some other guys.
I mean, there's twenty tackles from Dan Brugler graded fourth
round or better, and you would think, Okay, that seems
like a spot to get somebody. I just can't pull
(02:22):
the trigger at least in the first round. Probably should
have pulled the trigger one other round with that. But listen,
you brought back BJ Hill, you signed TJ. Slaton, you
spent second round capitol last year on Chris Jenkins, you
spent third round capitol last year on McKinley Jackson. In
a perfect world, and you're gonna probably have to go
get a veteran to be an extra body. Your rotation
is Slayton and Jackson at noseguard, Jenkins and Hill at
(02:45):
technically three technique or the other tackle, whatever you want
to call it. And then maybe Jenkins and Hill together
in pass rush situations, or you move o science side
in pass rush situations. I'm just not big on the
needed tackle. It feels like a luxury picked to me.
And I say that, and on my first round, I know,
I thought you're gonna ask me this part. You probably will,
But I mean, I've got Walton Nolan listen, I've got
(03:07):
Derret Carmen listen. I could be talked into those guys
in a right scenario. So I'm not anti that. I
just just feel like, man, you need a guard, and
you need a safety, and you need a linebacker, and
you could maybe use a little more juice at wide receiver,
and it just it feels like this is almost a
luxury pick. I know it's not because you need more
pass rush juice there, but you got four dudes. You
spent some capital at that position.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now you mentioned getting back to your your three point
oh Monck draft three point oh here you mentioned, well,
they need they need a guard, and you have them
taking one and a guy that we all like, and
Luke Candra at one F three overall round five. I
think for a lot of folks who have talked about
that in need in particular understanding the classes deep that
still feels late.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, it probably is, and I think I think I
admit that in when I wrote there the one I
did this morning, just to do one, Kate Rutledge was
gone or Kate rat ratledg Whether was gone. Jod and
Savaana from and I probably watched this pronunciation from Arizona
was there. He did take a he did take a
visit with the Bengals. He took a top thirty here,
and those are important. The Bengals like their top thirty visits.
(04:09):
Guys not always, but that's an important move in my opinion.
So I ended up taking him today. So I did
go guard's second round. But the one you did, I mean,
I've I've been I've heard this, I've been told this.
It was kind of reiterated a little bit with Duke
Tobin and Zach Killer. I know fans don't want to
hear this. They like the floor guards that are in
the mix at the moment. Cordovolson, Jackson, Kirkland, Cody Ford,
(04:30):
Lucas Patrick probably in reverse order will probably be Ford
and Patrick. But if you do that, if you're if
you're gonna plug Cody Ford in at guard and say, listen,
this is your position. You still need them to get
a swing tackle. So there's a lot of stuff that's
still who with some of this stuff that if you
go all right, code, you're you're that now again. You know,
maybe you like if cord Ole Wolson's a backup and
you go, hey, we got to kick Cody out to
right tackle because men's ask to miss a week. Put
(04:52):
Volsa in it left guard. We can do that whatever.
But that that that swing tackle, to me, is the
most underrated need in my opinion. Maybe it's a swing
ta they can kick in and give you a chance
to start a guard too, and give you a little
more versatility as both four and him.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Uh all right. At some point I'll ask you about
something that has nothing to do with this particular mock draft,
but this involves them trading Trey Hendrickson. How likely do
you think such a scenario is.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't think they do. I don't. I heard Kelsey
Town went on with you earlier. Mike Petrally and I
did a podcast on Monday, and some people clap back
when I said, I just don't see it taking the place.
I don't have that decinative Kelsey action to where credit
probably is a more definitive than me. I think if
they were going to do it, I think they would
have done it by now now. As you know, teams
get in panic mode right on when they're on the
(05:39):
clock of oh crap, there's our guy. But the Bengals
are on the clock. Okay, let's go ahead and move.
It won't be a first round pick. I just I mean,
if they would have been a first round pick, it
would have been a first round pick by now. Because
let's not forget this part of it. Whatever team trades
for Trey Hendrickson better be prepared to do an immediate
extension with Trey Henderson, right and those teams are you
(06:00):
went and far between? That narrows it down. I mean,
I'm i saying there are only a couple of teams
that were in the Tred Henderson conversation, you know, this
off season about when he requested the trade, and those
teams won't wanting to give the Bengals back what they wanted.
And I don't blame them wanting probably a first round pick.
I don't know that definitively, but that seems to be
what the sticking point was, and so on the clock,
(06:20):
could they change their mind? Maybe? Could it be a
team that goes, man, we're gonna just we'll trade with
you guys in the first round with swat spots and
we'll give you a second and whatever a third, or
we'll give you a second this year and a second
next year. Maybe that's enough to entice them. But to me,
it's either I didn't see that they get some level
of extension done and they just say, my man, you're
under contracted and we're expecting me to play, and he's
(06:41):
got to play if he wants to get paid next year.
And beyond.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You mentioned Walter Nolan and people wonder about whether or
not he loves football. I'm not sure how fair that is.
There's the Mike Green pick, which a lot of people
have mocked. There's character concerns there. How much of those
are deal breakers, tie breakers or nonsen starters for the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I don't think Walter Nolan is a deal breaker
because I do think the red flags of Jermain Burton
were just wild, right, And I was all in on, Okay,
you guys vetted him and you've been really good at
doing this and not taking these knuckleheads and man, what
a talent he's got a chance to be and he
turned out to be a knucklehead. I mean the shocking
the most shocking thing of Monday MO was him actually
(07:23):
sitting in his locker. His locker was clean. I'm like, whoa, wow, Okay,
let's start my man. You're there, You're there, the lockers clean.
That's a great place to start, all right. I don't
know if that means that he think it was a
good place to start. Yeah, No, one less And I'm
not even sure Mike glean from a character standpoint, The
thing that's turned me off and it may not turn
them off is okay. He had seventeen sacks at Marshall
(07:46):
this past season, and good for him. They played Ohio State,
he did nothing. He played at Virginia before Marshall and
did nothing. Was this just playing? Was this that classic
tweener kid that against great competition just isn't good enough,
and against mediocre to lessen me, he just burns them up.
It's the it's the player who goes, you know, zero
for twelve against three aces and then goes, you know,
(08:07):
about three seventy against the duds. You go, well, which
one is he? Is he a three or two hitter
or is he the guy that can't can't do it
in its top competition. That's that worries me more than
in character issues for Mike Green. I got even listed
the first round possibility. I just I'm just not sold
on that part of.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It makes sense. Have a great call, enjoy the game.
Thank you as.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Always, I appreciate it. Thanks most.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Richard Skinner Local twelve dot com on Twitter at Local
twelve Skinny, I think we've reached uh and Skinny is awesome.
We love Skinny. I think we have reached a peak
draft analysis right now. I got the I had the
Reds game on TV here in the studio, and the
postgame show is over, and so now I don't have
(08:51):
the sound on, but apparently discussing the ins and outs
of the NFL draft are Dave want stat And ANDFL
Hall of Famer Dan Hampton. I don't know man, and
both look like both look like a couple of guys
who are the first one to go to the wedding reception.
It's on the TV now, UH, twenty eight away from
(09:16):
five o'clock A five point three seven four nine fifteen
thirty is our phone number. I don't want the Bengals
to trade Trey Hendrickson. I will understand if they do,
but I don't want them to because I want the
Bengals to do what the Brown should do. I'll make
that make sense next. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
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(10:00):
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In Kentucky, a crash by Rick Shrump with traffic.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
This report is
From Local twelve at Local twelve, Skinny, I'll be very
busy over the next couple of days covering the draft
from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com. He's with us, now,
how's it going. It's going well, mo.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm sitting in the parking lot at Saint Xavier High
School's baseball stadium about the broadcast Little Saint Xavier Molar
Baseball Wow with Moler's finest one, Zion theophilis LSU commit
on the mound. I'm sure they'll be Major League Baseball
scouts here. I'm looking very forward to it, looking forward
to the draft.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Tum very cool and you should have good weather for
it tonight as well, which is most important.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, we should. Yeah, that hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Good season. I hear that now, correct me if I'm wrong.
You've done three mock drafts.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Correct, that is correct. I'm doing my last one tonight
and posting it in the morning. The finale. So the
ones I did, I did them all in one week,
right before I took the leak of vacation. So I
did one where they kept the six picks right, and
then I did one where Okay, I'm gonna let the
simulator offer me trades and I took a trade off there,
(01:01):
traded with the Texans. I traded down to twenty five
and got an extra couple third round picks out of that,
and then I did one. We're just just take the
new core option of what can I get if I
trade Trey Hendrix. On that one, I got a second,
third and a fourth round pick from the Lions. Was
that one was interesting to me because I thought, I'm
just gonna keep asking to see what they do, and
they use that jim you know, the Jimmy Johnson trade
(01:21):
chart most people do. They try to stay true to that.
So I kept thinking, I think I'm getting a steal here,
and this doesn't seem right, but okay, if you want
to give it to me, I'll take it. So I'll
do one tomorrow or one tonight. That's just going to
keep the six rounds until they until they make whatever
trades they may make.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So three point zero is my favorite one because it
was the most interesting because I had if I looked
at this correctly and I got it in front of me,
now I had five picks between number twenty five and
number one oh two, trading Trey Hendrickson, So sign me
up for that now. But what's interesting about what you
did is you had the Bengals with nine picks. There's
(01:57):
not a defensive tackle in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, And that's the thing, and I probably aired on
not doing that later in that particular draft. And I
know Walter Nolan's a nice name. I know Harmon's a
nice name. In the first round, there are some other guys.
I mean, there's twenty tackles from Dan Brugler graded fourth
round or better, and you would think, Okay, that seems
like a spot to get somebody. I just can't pull
(02:22):
the trigger at least in the first round. Probably should
have pulled the trigger one other round with that. But listen,
you brought back BJ Hill, you signed TJ. Slaton, you
spent second round capitol last year on Chris Jenkins, you
spent third round capitol last year on McKinley Jackson. In
a perfect world, and you're gonna probably have to go
get a veteran to be an extra body. Your rotation
is Slayton and Jackson at noseguard, Jenkins and Hill at
(02:45):
technically three technique or the other tackle, whatever you want
to call it. And then maybe Jenkins and Hill together
in pass rush situations, or you move o science side
in pass rush situations. I'm just not big on the
needed tackle. It feels like a luxury picked to me.
And I say that, and on my first round, I know,
I thought you're gonna ask me this part. You probably will,
But I mean, I've got Walton Nolan listen, I've got
(03:07):
Derret Carmen listen. I could be talked into those guys
in a right scenario. So I'm not anti that. I
just just feel like, man, you need a guard, and
you need a safety, and you need a linebacker, and
you could maybe use a little more juice at wide receiver,
and it just it feels like this is almost a
luxury pick. I know it's not because you need more
pass rush juice there, but you got four dudes. You
spent some capital at that position.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now you mentioned getting back to your your three point
oh Monck draft three point oh here you mentioned, well,
they need they need a guard, and you have them
taking one and a guy that we all like, and
Luke Candra at one F three overall round five. I
think for a lot of folks who have talked about
that in need in particular understanding the classes deep that
still feels late.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, it probably is, and I think I think I
admit that in when I wrote there the one I
did this morning, just to do one, Kate Rutledge was
gone or Kate rat ratledg Whether was gone. Jod and
Savaana from and I probably watched this pronunciation from Arizona
was there. He did take a he did take a
visit with the Bengals. He took a top thirty here,
and those are important. The Bengals like their top thirty visits.
(04:09):
Guys not always, but that's an important move in my opinion.
So I ended up taking him today. So I did
go guard's second round. But the one you did, I mean,
I've I've been I've heard this, I've been told this.
It was kind of reiterated a little bit with Duke
Tobin and Zach Killer. I know fans don't want to
hear this. They like the floor guards that are in
the mix at the moment. Cordovolson, Jackson, Kirkland, Cody Ford,
(04:30):
Lucas Patrick probably in reverse order will probably be Ford
and Patrick. But if you do that, if you're if
you're gonna plug Cody Ford in at guard and say, listen,
this is your position. You still need them to get
a swing tackle. So there's a lot of stuff that's
still who with some of this stuff that if you
go all right, code, you're you're that now again. You know,
maybe you like if cord Ole Wolson's a backup and
you go, hey, we got to kick Cody out to
right tackle because men's ask to miss a week. Put
(04:52):
Volsa in it left guard. We can do that whatever.
But that that that swing tackle, to me, is the
most underrated need in my opinion. Maybe it's a swing
ta they can kick in and give you a chance
to start a guard too, and give you a little
more versatility as both four and him.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Uh all right. At some point I'll ask you about
something that has nothing to do with this particular mock draft,
but this involves them trading Trey Hendrickson. How likely do
you think such a scenario is.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't think they do. I don't. I heard Kelsey
Town went on with you earlier. Mike Petrally and I
did a podcast on Monday, and some people clap back
when I said, I just don't see it taking the place.
I don't have that decinative Kelsey action to where credit
probably is a more definitive than me. I think if
they were going to do it, I think they would
have done it by now now. As you know, teams
get in panic mode right on when they're on the
(05:39):
clock of oh crap, there's our guy. But the Bengals
are on the clock. Okay, let's go ahead and move.
It won't be a first round pick. I just I mean,
if they would have been a first round pick, it
would have been a first round pick by now. Because
let's not forget this part of it. Whatever team trades
for Trey Hendrickson better be prepared to do an immediate
extension with Trey Henderson, right and those teams are you
(06:00):
went and far between? That narrows it down. I mean,
I'm i saying there are only a couple of teams
that were in the Tred Henderson conversation, you know, this
off season about when he requested the trade, and those
teams won't wanting to give the Bengals back what they wanted.
And I don't blame them wanting probably a first round pick.
I don't know that definitively, but that seems to be
what the sticking point was, and so on the clock,
(06:20):
could they change their mind? Maybe? Could it be a
team that goes, man, we're gonna just we'll trade with
you guys in the first round with swat spots and
we'll give you a second and whatever a third, or
we'll give you a second this year and a second
next year. Maybe that's enough to entice them. But to me,
it's either I didn't see that they get some level
of extension done and they just say, my man, you're
under contracted and we're expecting me to play, and he's
(06:41):
got to play if he wants to get paid next year.
And beyond.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You mentioned Walter Nolan and people wonder about whether or
not he loves football. I'm not sure how fair that is.
There's the Mike Green pick, which a lot of people
have mocked. There's character concerns there. How much of those
are deal breakers, tie breakers or nonsen starters for the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I don't think Walter Nolan is a deal breaker
because I do think the red flags of Jermain Burton
were just wild, right, And I was all in on, Okay,
you guys vetted him and you've been really good at
doing this and not taking these knuckleheads and man, what
a talent he's got a chance to be and he
turned out to be a knucklehead. I mean the shocking
the most shocking thing of Monday MO was him actually
(07:23):
sitting in his locker. His locker was clean. I'm like, whoa, wow, Okay,
let's start my man. You're there, You're there, the lockers clean.
That's a great place to start, all right. I don't
know if that means that he think it was a
good place to start. Yeah, No, one less And I'm
not even sure Mike glean from a character standpoint, The
thing that's turned me off and it may not turn
them off is okay. He had seventeen sacks at Marshall
(07:46):
this past season, and good for him. They played Ohio State,
he did nothing. He played at Virginia before Marshall and
did nothing. Was this just playing? Was this that classic
tweener kid that against great competition just isn't good enough,
and against mediocre to lessen me, he just burns them up.
It's the it's the player who goes, you know, zero
for twelve against three aces and then goes, you know,
(08:07):
about three seventy against the duds. You go, well, which
one is he? Is he a three or two hitter
or is he the guy that can't can't do it
in its top competition. That's that worries me more than
in character issues for Mike Green. I got even listed
the first round possibility. I just I'm just not sold
on that part of.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It makes sense. Have a great call, enjoy the game.
Thank you as.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Always, I appreciate it. Thanks most.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Richard Skinner Local twelve dot com on Twitter at Local
twelve Skinny, I think we've reached uh and Skinny is awesome.
We love Skinny. I think we have reached a peak
draft analysis right now. I got the I had the
Reds game on TV here in the studio, and the
postgame show is over, and so now I don't have
(08:51):
the sound on, but apparently discussing the ins and outs
of the NFL draft are Dave want stat And ANDFL
Hall of Famer Dan Hampton. I don't know man, and
both look like both look like a couple of guys
who are the first one to go to the wedding reception.
It's on the TV now, UH, twenty eight away from
(09:16):
five o'clock A five point three seven four nine fifteen
thirty is our phone number. I don't want the Bengals
to trade Trey Hendrickson. I will understand if they do,
but I don't want them to because I want the
Bengals to do what the Brown should do. I'll make
that make sense next. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Traffic from the U see Health traffic CEA. At you
see Health, you'll find comprehensive care so personal it makes
your best tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for better. I'll
comes expect more. You see Health dot com. June seventy five.
He's bound at the combs Hell Bridge accident on the
right hand side right lane is block and Fort Washington
(10:00):
westbound at seventy five. We picked up a crash Cole
Ran at Virginia Avenue. Sawing police here with an accident
in seventy five Southound ran from two to seventy five.
In Kentucky, a crash by Rick Shrump with traffic.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
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