April 28, 2025 • 13 mins
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He joined us to break down the Bengals' 2025 draft class and discuss what they did and didn't do during the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lines for our service at Kelsey Chevale, home of lifetime
powertrain protection and guarantee credit approval from their family to
yours for life kelseychhev dot Com. Reds are back at
home tonight, first of four against the Cardinals Cincinnati sweeping
the Rockies over the weekend. More on that here in
the Bitch six forty. Tonight's first pitch on a seven
hundred WLW. Nick Martinez and Andre Polante are tonight's starting pitchers.
(00:22):
And congratulations to Kevin Dentke. He has been named to
MLS Team of the Match Day for Match ad number
ten for his performance on Saturday, n FC Cincinnati's two
to one win over Kansas City. Denka had both home
team goals. Ryan Roberts is always kind enough to join us,
somebody who's work we have come to enjoy over the years.
(00:43):
He is with eight Z sports dot com, top notch
NFL draft analyst on Twitter at Rise and grind, and
we told him when we had him on before the
draft we were going to bother him right after the draft,
and so we're doing that now. Hi, Ryan, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm good, nough, I'm good. How's everything with you?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Everything is good? I want to start with Demetrius Knight,
because you wrote about him, and in the course of
reading what you wrote about Demetrius Knight, the second round
draft pick of the Bengals from South Carolina, the twenty
five year old linebacker you and you embedded a tweet
from back in November when you were watching him critically
on film. When we put that film up, Demetrius Knight,
what do we see?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I mean, you see a you see a modern game
in a old school body is kind of what the
best way they phrase it. He's right around six or
two shade under he's two hundred and well, he's two
thirty five at the combine, but he played more in
like the two forty six forty eight range somewhere in
that ballpark. But then he goes to combat runs four
or five eight, right, So, like, this is a kid
that looks like a modern old school Mike linebacker on film,
(01:43):
but a guy that has sidelined a sideline range. He
has a really fascinating backstory. I understand he's twenty five
and during his rookie year, so most people kind of
overlook him a little bit, and he's kind of a
one year wonder in the SEC this past year, if
they're playing at Charlotte previously the previously season. But man,
I'm really infatuated with him as a player even before
he was drafted to Bengals. And I know, obviously Al
(02:04):
Golden and his defense linebackers are a very important ingredient
for communication aspects obviously, but they really highlight the linebacker
position just in general. So I really like everything that
Demetrius kind of brings to the table. I think he's
a sideline to sideline modern Mike linebacker that brings a
lot of tunes to the table.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You referenced something that stands out to me, And in
reading about him and listening to him after the Bengals
took him, you can't help but be impressed by his maturity,
his story, like just brings all these really cool intangibles
to the table. Team captain in his one season at
South Carolina, I think there is a relative lack of
like starting experience for a guy who played six seasons
(02:45):
of college football. Why is that?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it's a fascinating backstory. So he was originally in
the twenty nineteen recruiting class. He played four seasons at
Georgia Tech, and so Originally he was recruited as a
dual threat quarterback to Georgia Tech, So he was a
dual threat quarter that eventually got converted to the defense
side of the ball. And I think anything it's like
the modern physical development that needs to happen obviously, right Like,
he was one hundred and ninety something pounds come out
(03:09):
of high school, and he had the bulk up. He
had to grow into his frame, had to learn how
to play defensive football and a more wide scale perspective,
and it took a little time to match eight. I
think during his course of his time at Georgia Tech,
didn't play a ton in those four years, mostly a
special team or backup he reserved. But then he goes
to Charlotte his fifth season and he kind of explodes
(03:29):
and he gets an opportunity with the COVID year to
play one additional season that sixth year. And I just
think that you're seeing a late bloomer because ultimately he
was not playing a position that was very understandable to him,
right Like, it was a little bit foreign at first,
and he's continued to develop and develop and develop. And
I do think that what he did in the SEC
this past year at South Carolina on a team that
(03:51):
has a lot of dudes like nick A Minwari, TJ. Sanders,
Kyle Canard, on Tombadillan Stewart in a couple of years, Like,
there's a lot of great football players in that defense,
and in my opinion, the leader of that group was
Demetrius Knight, and he did that in just one season.
So I'm excited to see the maturation because I do
think that he is a late bloomer for sure, but
I do think that he has continued to trend upward
the last two years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Opus all right, let's flip it back to round one.
Shamar Stewart trades versus production or in his case, lack
thereof Where do you stand?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, it's he's the ultimate wild card in this
class because you could tell me that there is a
world where he becomes Danil Hunter and who also had
it kind of a lack of college production. Well, there's
also a world where he just doesn't figure it out, right,
So like this is an ultimate boomer bus there at seventeen.
I feel good knowing about Coach Golden and just the
development that he has shown me the last couple of years.
(04:43):
Of bringing some younger guys along and taking massive jumps,
especially in like year two under his system. But I
can't calm anybody's nerves, and Cincinnati is a fan. I
can't like this is the ultimate. He can be great,
he can be bad, and there's probably not too much
in between. Like I don't see Schimar Stewart being like
a good football player either he's gonna be one of
the best in the NFL or he's not gonna be
(05:04):
much of anything, right, so wild card for sure, Talent
is there. I do think Texas A and M used
him a little bit poorly, which does give me hope
that he can reach that ceiling. But ultimately, this is
a This is absolutely a boomer Bus pick. There's no
way around that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
How do I put in the context when I try
to project what he's gonna do at the next level,
the thirty nine pressures he had last year at Texas
A and M.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I think one again the context. I think that
while Mike Elko at text A and M is a
great defensive mind, I don't love Jay Bateman his team.
That's a coordinator, and I think you look at even
Nick Scarleton, who's the other talented edge that went the
second round to Carolina. I think both of them were
very misused and mismanaged, Like skeleton. They put like thirty
pounds on him for some reason where he was at
(05:48):
at Purdue, and then we're kind of shocked that he
wasn't as explosive as he was for Shamar Stewart, Like
he was a player that was pretty inexperienced, didn't play
a ton of the previous two years, played you know,
a little bit in twenty twenty, played a decent mountain
twenty twenty three, but not like full scale. This is
his first year as a starter, as a guy that
was going to be the dude, and I just think
they asked him to do too much, to be honest,
(06:08):
Like I'm a big fan of when you get a
player on the field for the first time, make sure
they're good at one thing first before trying to ask
them to do a million different things. Like they need
a baseline, they need a foundation, and I don't think
they build a great foundation for Shamar Stewart. So again,
like this is this is not me, Like there's no
coping here, right, Like this is ultimately like this is
gonna be one of those bloomerbus picks. There's no way
(06:30):
around it. But I do think that there is some
context to explain why the production hasn't quite been there.
Seventeen is a little bit early for my blood, obviously,
but I will say, if you can figure out the
long term with Trey Hendrickson and get him here for
you know, the foreseeable future, it does also call my
nerves a little bit to know that Shamar Stewart gets
to learn from him a little bit, right The art
of being a pass rusher, the art of being of
(06:50):
understanding pass rush profile and understanding how to attack leverage
and create angles and take advantage of those angles like
that kind of calls my nerves a little bit. But
if he's not a part of the future, then you
get a little bit even more uneasy about it, to
be honest.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Ryan Roberts eight is e Sports dot Com at Rise
and Draft on Twitter. I wanted Tate Ratlage in the
second round. I didn't get Tate Ratlage in the second round.
I got Dylan Fairchild. How much of a difference is
there between the two, h.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Man, You're not gonna lik my answer this one. Probably
it's a it's a really big difference, to be honest
with you, there are similar profiles as far as their
heights and weights raleges, but around six with six three
undred fifteen pounds shut fairchilds in short. So he's sixt
five th fifteen, He's played a ton of football. He's
a pretty physical kid. I just think he's pretty stiff. Like,
(07:41):
I just don't think he works up the second level
incredibly well. I think he's lateral ability is subtly belows
for NFL standards. So I understand why he was the
pick of that spot because the NFL has just generally
been a little higher on him than like I think
myself and just like other media people out there. But
I would be lying to you if I said, like,
I love that pick eighty one did seem pretty high
(08:01):
for me. I thought it was more of a fourth
to fifth rounder, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So what I think a lot of Bengals fans look
at when they see the class is maybe six players
who end up being quality NFL players, maybe a whole
bunch of guys who end up getting second contracts, maybe
a whole lot of guys who end up helping this
team immediately. But it's it's hard to ignore what they
didn't do. They didn't address defensive tackle and they didn't
(08:25):
address safety. Is there anywhere in this draft where you
felt like it would have made sense for them to
go in either of those areas instead of what they
ultimately decided to do.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It it's malpractice not to get a defensive tackle in
this class, Like I can't. I can't excuse the staff,
both from the scouting side, from the coaching staff, like
in this class, which is a historically deep defensive tackle class,
like I cannot remember a volume this deep. You come
out of here and you don't have a defensive tackle
in this group, and I kind of look at like
Barrett Carter in the fourth round of pick one nineteen
(08:57):
for me, is not bid value in a vacuum. Like
if you told me Derek Carter one nineteen, like, cool,
he's a good player, I'd liked that spot. He's a
good wool linebacker, can run, we'll play special teams. Awesome,
But you're already drifted a lot of yeah, like you've
got a guy already, So maybe at that pick one nineteen,
I think like a guy, I think a couple. I mean,
I think for sure, I believe if I remember correctly, CJ.
(09:19):
West from Indiana was still there on the board. If
I remember at one nineteen, and like, there were still
other positive defensive tackles that could have come in and
at least had a role in a defense. So I
look at like the second linebacker pick there. Don't hate
it again in a vacuum, But when you pass on
so many talented defensive tackles in this class, and you
can even move back to the defensive like pretty good
safety and corner class too, that they refused to kind
(09:41):
of hit and you know, hit on the board as well.
So I think that was probably the puzzling spot for me.
It was that fourth round of one nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, the math to me just didn't work out. I
think I said this to you when you joined me
before the draft. You know, if you look at their
team needs, it looks like a team going through a rebuild.
They only had six picks and yet they used two
on linebackers and two on all offensive lineman. Nothing against
those individual players, and I get it, you draft players,
not positions, but when you have this blaring need specifically
(10:08):
at defensive tackle, and then you could add safety to
the conversation. To take four players across two different position groups,
that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, we were talking about it. We did a live
stream earlier and we were talking about it. Similarly. I
can't remember who even team it was, but it felt
like it just feels like it doesn't fit right, and
it feels like it's a little packing a strength with
an already strength when you have more needs than just
like two positions to your point, right, So it just
(10:40):
felt like there wasn't a great plan there. I mean
maybe ultimately, maybe Barreck Carter was their top rank guy
on the board by a landslide, and they were like
that's our guy, Like we can't pass up best player available,
blah blah blah blah blah. But ultimately, you're a first
year defensive coordinator. You have holes everywhere. I mean, we
talked before the draft and I'm like, the Bengals are
like easy to see the draft for for me at
(11:01):
this class, it's like, what level of the defense do
you want to pick from?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Like, I'm good, you got it, And I feel like
they missed the mark here. I mean, the cornerback was
a deep class safety was a good class in thior
defense line was a great class, So I do think
that it is it's a little bit of of I
think it's a little bit of near sights to not
come out with a couple of those guys because I
just think that there were We never want to press
for need over best player available too often, but when
(11:28):
you have so many holes on your defense, I do
think you need to prioritize those types of things.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, well said. I cannot thank you enough. You were
kind enough to join us before the National Title game,
before the draft, and now afterward, and we love having
you on. Thanks so much, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I appreciate bro, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
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(12:07):
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question of the season. Now, the question of the season
is Al Golden good enough to take this defense from
one of the league's worst to one that you can
win a championship with with a draft class that included
(12:28):
three guys, a free agent class that included two guys,
and a whole bunch of dudes who were here last year.
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And congratulations to Kevin Dentke. He has been named to
MLS Team of the Match Day for Match ad number
ten for his performance on Saturday, n FC Cincinnati's two
to one win over Kansas City. Denka had both home
team goals. Ryan Roberts is always kind enough to join us,
somebody who's work we have come to enjoy over the years.
(00:43):
He is with eight Z sports dot com, top notch
NFL draft analyst on Twitter at Rise and grind, and
we told him when we had him on before the
draft we were going to bother him right after the draft,
and so we're doing that now. Hi, Ryan, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm good, nough, I'm good. How's everything with you?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Everything is good? I want to start with Demetrius Knight,
because you wrote about him, and in the course of
reading what you wrote about Demetrius Knight, the second round
draft pick of the Bengals from South Carolina, the twenty
five year old linebacker you and you embedded a tweet
from back in November when you were watching him critically
on film. When we put that film up, Demetrius Knight,
what do we see?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I mean, you see a you see a modern game
in a old school body is kind of what the
best way they phrase it. He's right around six or
two shade under he's two hundred and well, he's two
thirty five at the combine, but he played more in
like the two forty six forty eight range somewhere in
that ballpark. But then he goes to combat runs four
or five eight, right, So, like, this is a kid
that looks like a modern old school Mike linebacker on film,
(01:43):
but a guy that has sidelined a sideline range. He
has a really fascinating backstory. I understand he's twenty five
and during his rookie year, so most people kind of
overlook him a little bit, and he's kind of a
one year wonder in the SEC this past year, if
they're playing at Charlotte previously the previously season. But man,
I'm really infatuated with him as a player even before
he was drafted to Bengals. And I know, obviously Al
(02:04):
Golden and his defense linebackers are a very important ingredient
for communication aspects obviously, but they really highlight the linebacker
position just in general. So I really like everything that
Demetrius kind of brings to the table. I think he's
a sideline to sideline modern Mike linebacker that brings a
lot of tunes to the table.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You referenced something that stands out to me, And in
reading about him and listening to him after the Bengals
took him, you can't help but be impressed by his maturity,
his story, like just brings all these really cool intangibles
to the table. Team captain in his one season at
South Carolina, I think there is a relative lack of
like starting experience for a guy who played six seasons
(02:45):
of college football. Why is that?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it's a fascinating backstory. So he was originally in
the twenty nineteen recruiting class. He played four seasons at
Georgia Tech, and so Originally he was recruited as a
dual threat quarterback to Georgia Tech, So he was a
dual threat quarter that eventually got converted to the defense
side of the ball. And I think anything it's like
the modern physical development that needs to happen obviously, right Like,
he was one hundred and ninety something pounds come out
(03:09):
of high school, and he had the bulk up. He
had to grow into his frame, had to learn how
to play defensive football and a more wide scale perspective,
and it took a little time to match eight. I
think during his course of his time at Georgia Tech,
didn't play a ton in those four years, mostly a
special team or backup he reserved. But then he goes
to Charlotte his fifth season and he kind of explodes
(03:29):
and he gets an opportunity with the COVID year to
play one additional season that sixth year. And I just
think that you're seeing a late bloomer because ultimately he
was not playing a position that was very understandable to him,
right Like, it was a little bit foreign at first,
and he's continued to develop and develop and develop. And
I do think that what he did in the SEC
this past year at South Carolina on a team that
(03:51):
has a lot of dudes like nick A Minwari, TJ. Sanders,
Kyle Canard, on Tombadillan Stewart in a couple of years, Like,
there's a lot of great football players in that defense,
and in my opinion, the leader of that group was
Demetrius Knight, and he did that in just one season.
So I'm excited to see the maturation because I do
think that he is a late bloomer for sure, but
I do think that he has continued to trend upward
the last two years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Opus all right, let's flip it back to round one.
Shamar Stewart trades versus production or in his case, lack
thereof Where do you stand?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, it's he's the ultimate wild card in this
class because you could tell me that there is a
world where he becomes Danil Hunter and who also had
it kind of a lack of college production. Well, there's
also a world where he just doesn't figure it out, right,
So like this is an ultimate boomer bus there at seventeen.
I feel good knowing about Coach Golden and just the
development that he has shown me the last couple of years.
(04:43):
Of bringing some younger guys along and taking massive jumps,
especially in like year two under his system. But I
can't calm anybody's nerves, and Cincinnati is a fan. I
can't like this is the ultimate. He can be great,
he can be bad, and there's probably not too much
in between. Like I don't see Schimar Stewart being like
a good football player either he's gonna be one of
the best in the NFL or he's not gonna be
(05:04):
much of anything, right, so wild card for sure, Talent
is there. I do think Texas A and M used
him a little bit poorly, which does give me hope
that he can reach that ceiling. But ultimately, this is
a This is absolutely a boomer Bus pick. There's no
way around that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
How do I put in the context when I try
to project what he's gonna do at the next level,
the thirty nine pressures he had last year at Texas
A and M.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I think one again the context. I think that
while Mike Elko at text A and M is a
great defensive mind, I don't love Jay Bateman his team.
That's a coordinator, and I think you look at even
Nick Scarleton, who's the other talented edge that went the
second round to Carolina. I think both of them were
very misused and mismanaged, Like skeleton. They put like thirty
pounds on him for some reason where he was at
(05:48):
at Purdue, and then we're kind of shocked that he
wasn't as explosive as he was for Shamar Stewart, Like
he was a player that was pretty inexperienced, didn't play
a ton of the previous two years, played you know,
a little bit in twenty twenty, played a decent mountain
twenty twenty three, but not like full scale. This is
his first year as a starter, as a guy that
was going to be the dude, and I just think
they asked him to do too much, to be honest,
(06:08):
Like I'm a big fan of when you get a
player on the field for the first time, make sure
they're good at one thing first before trying to ask
them to do a million different things. Like they need
a baseline, they need a foundation, and I don't think
they build a great foundation for Shamar Stewart. So again,
like this is this is not me, Like there's no
coping here, right, Like this is ultimately like this is
gonna be one of those bloomerbus picks. There's no way
(06:30):
around it. But I do think that there is some
context to explain why the production hasn't quite been there.
Seventeen is a little bit early for my blood, obviously,
but I will say, if you can figure out the
long term with Trey Hendrickson and get him here for
you know, the foreseeable future, it does also call my
nerves a little bit to know that Shamar Stewart gets
to learn from him a little bit, right The art
of being a pass rusher, the art of being of
(06:50):
understanding pass rush profile and understanding how to attack leverage
and create angles and take advantage of those angles like
that kind of calls my nerves a little bit. But
if he's not a part of the future, then you
get a little bit even more uneasy about it, to
be honest.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Ryan Roberts eight is e Sports dot Com at Rise
and Draft on Twitter. I wanted Tate Ratlage in the
second round. I didn't get Tate Ratlage in the second round.
I got Dylan Fairchild. How much of a difference is
there between the two, h.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Man, You're not gonna lik my answer this one. Probably
it's a it's a really big difference, to be honest
with you, there are similar profiles as far as their
heights and weights raleges, but around six with six three
undred fifteen pounds shut fairchilds in short. So he's sixt
five th fifteen, He's played a ton of football. He's
a pretty physical kid. I just think he's pretty stiff. Like,
(07:41):
I just don't think he works up the second level
incredibly well. I think he's lateral ability is subtly belows
for NFL standards. So I understand why he was the
pick of that spot because the NFL has just generally
been a little higher on him than like I think
myself and just like other media people out there. But
I would be lying to you if I said, like,
I love that pick eighty one did seem pretty high
(08:01):
for me. I thought it was more of a fourth
to fifth rounder, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So what I think a lot of Bengals fans look
at when they see the class is maybe six players
who end up being quality NFL players, maybe a whole
bunch of guys who end up getting second contracts, maybe
a whole lot of guys who end up helping this
team immediately. But it's it's hard to ignore what they
didn't do. They didn't address defensive tackle and they didn't
(08:25):
address safety. Is there anywhere in this draft where you
felt like it would have made sense for them to
go in either of those areas instead of what they
ultimately decided to do.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It it's malpractice not to get a defensive tackle in
this class, Like I can't. I can't excuse the staff,
both from the scouting side, from the coaching staff, like
in this class, which is a historically deep defensive tackle class,
like I cannot remember a volume this deep. You come
out of here and you don't have a defensive tackle
in this group, and I kind of look at like
Barrett Carter in the fourth round of pick one nineteen
(08:57):
for me, is not bid value in a vacuum. Like
if you told me Derek Carter one nineteen, like, cool,
he's a good player, I'd liked that spot. He's a
good wool linebacker, can run, we'll play special teams. Awesome,
But you're already drifted a lot of yeah, like you've
got a guy already, So maybe at that pick one nineteen,
I think like a guy, I think a couple. I mean,
I think for sure, I believe if I remember correctly, CJ.
(09:19):
West from Indiana was still there on the board. If
I remember at one nineteen, and like, there were still
other positive defensive tackles that could have come in and
at least had a role in a defense. So I
look at like the second linebacker pick there. Don't hate
it again in a vacuum, But when you pass on
so many talented defensive tackles in this class, and you
can even move back to the defensive like pretty good
safety and corner class too, that they refused to kind
(09:41):
of hit and you know, hit on the board as well.
So I think that was probably the puzzling spot for me.
It was that fourth round of one nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, the math to me just didn't work out. I
think I said this to you when you joined me
before the draft. You know, if you look at their
team needs, it looks like a team going through a rebuild.
They only had six picks and yet they used two
on linebackers and two on all offensive lineman. Nothing against
those individual players, and I get it, you draft players,
not positions, but when you have this blaring need specifically
(10:08):
at defensive tackle, and then you could add safety to
the conversation. To take four players across two different position groups,
that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, we were talking about it. We did a live
stream earlier and we were talking about it. Similarly. I
can't remember who even team it was, but it felt
like it just feels like it doesn't fit right, and
it feels like it's a little packing a strength with
an already strength when you have more needs than just
like two positions to your point, right, So it just
(10:40):
felt like there wasn't a great plan there. I mean
maybe ultimately, maybe Barreck Carter was their top rank guy
on the board by a landslide, and they were like
that's our guy, Like we can't pass up best player available,
blah blah blah blah blah. But ultimately, you're a first
year defensive coordinator. You have holes everywhere. I mean, we
talked before the draft and I'm like, the Bengals are
like easy to see the draft for for me at
(11:01):
this class, it's like, what level of the defense do
you want to pick from?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Like, I'm good, you got it, And I feel like
they missed the mark here. I mean, the cornerback was
a deep class safety was a good class in thior
defense line was a great class, So I do think
that it is it's a little bit of of I
think it's a little bit of near sights to not
come out with a couple of those guys because I
just think that there were We never want to press
for need over best player available too often, but when
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you have so many holes on your defense, I do
think you need to prioritize those types of things.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, well said. I cannot thank you enough. You were
kind enough to join us before the National Title game,
before the draft, and now afterward, and we love having
you on. Thanks so much, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I appreciate bro, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's Ryan Roberts eight is sports dot Com on Twitter
at rise and draft all right five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty malpractice. Like when the season ended,
I couldn't find anybody who didn't believe the Bengals don't
need to overhaul their defense. Does it feel like they've
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overhauled their defense? And is Al Golden? This is the
question of the season. Now, the question of the season
is Al Golden good enough to take this defense from
one of the league's worst to one that you can
win a championship with with a draft class that included
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three guys, a free agent class that included two guys,
and a whole bunch of dudes who were here last year.
Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty is our
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